@C io ti critico perchè ti fai i capelli alla robbie williams. @Vitz, non potrò mai constatarlo perchè appena sento la voce di quello là dei coldplay mi viene lo scorbuto e devo affogarmi di arance.
- SpencerTracy
@elena :) @ziospè, non saprei cosa dirti. Potresti sentire solo la variazione, senza voce. Ma se non lo ascolti, sai che campi uguale, no :)
- v per vitzbank
First, FriendFeed is _not_ going away. (in fact, we're working on switching it to new servers) Second, I know everyone wants to know what the team is working on, but we don't pre-announce things, so for now all I can say is that there's good stuff on the way. Re: http://friendfeed.com/jworthi...
Paul, working on friendfeed.com stuff or facebook.com?
- Kol Tregaskes
I like the first sentence. The rest is just gravy.
- Derek Coward
I'm totally happy if we just reside on decent servers, and get occasional IT help... We'll keep the rest of the ship running :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Paul - is that why it's been slower lately vs.pre-fb ?
- Allen Stern
Paul please repeat it in re-phrased form: Friendfeed is NOT going to repeat destiny of Jaiku? Y/N
- A.T.
Can't wait... **Fingers tapping desk impatiently**
- AJ Batac
But what does "going away" mean, Paul? And what does "team" mean? And when you say "pre-announce", are you talking about the Palm Pre?
- Ken Sheppardson
Allen, the slowness is due to growth (more users and more data), but I put in a few fixes yesterday that should speed things up a bit.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, sometimes when I open up threads I get the Opps... error. Is that related? It has been happening more and more these last few days.
- Kol Tregaskes
Still better than twitter and facebook. Thanks for the update!
- Mike Nencetti
Paul, thanks for the incredible work with FriendFeed. Please, keep it alive! and most importantly keep it FriendFeed!
- Ciro
as long as FF doesn't go dark or fall to pieces due to lack of maintenance, i think most ppl would be appeased.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Does this mean that the sky is not falling and we should stop running around screaming GODZILLA! and pointing in the direction of FB?
- Moved to Facebook
from fftogo
Thanks for the update! Would like to know if there will be actual development done on FriendFeed in the future (other than bug fixes/minor updates) but I understand if you can't really talk about that too much.
- Brandon Titus
Paul: so still no answer from you as to if your 'good stuff' is being developed for FB or FF? The silence suggests it's FaceBook you're working on, or at least transferring FF into an 'add on' for Facebook?
- Jim Connolly
Kol, fb platform and openness, primarily.
- Paul Buchheit
i made a post here - http://www.centernetworks.com/friendf... - one interesting note - maybe FB keeps FF running nice and smooth to keep the early adopters happy as it's a great way to get new features out to them via this channel... just a thought.
- Allen Stern
Wow. I've had to eat my words before but these are the best-tasting ones yet!
- Akiva Moskovitz
from BuddyFeed
Akiva, just add salt. You know which kind :)
- Micah Wittman
These are the best words I could have expected by Paul. There is obviously a cultural difference between the two platforms and audience and I'm assuming both the former FF team and the FB team recognize that and are sensitive to the community. Thank you Paul and I hope you are feeling better....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Allen, you're in good company on that thought - there were musings on that concept right after the buyout.
- Micah Wittman
Damn, 20+ likes within a matter of 2 minutes.
- Itachi
I feel a few "I told you so's" coming though... :-)
- Jesse Stay
Thanks Paul. Glad you're working on maintaining/improving performance. I've definitely seen issues here. Looking forward towards your influence and changes over at the blue giant.
- Mark Krynsky
Paul - thank you for letting us know, and I do hope you feel better!
- Jennifer Dittrich
The big question though is will FriendFeed continue to add new features? There's a difference between that and it going away. (and hence my argument w/ Scoble the other day)
- Jesse Stay
Paul: Seriously weird that you're there reading this, and totally ignoring each relevant, yes no question. No one's asking you to pre announce anything - just genuinely concerned (and increasingly so) that they do NOT include developing for FF.
- Jim Connolly
Jesse: Paul answers that question - BOOM - rumour mill dies and we finally get something positive to say. Ya know what - we won;t get an answer though. He's reading this, he knows the answer, but he won't.
- Jim Connolly
Jesse: For now, FF has more features than any other platform for this type of niche. There's some catching up to do before I'm worried about new features.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
AWESOME!! Thanks for helping to quell some concerns Paul. Looking forward to what comes next, but hope that FF never dissappears also.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Shouldn't we be asking the facebook guys, and let Paul keep working? Or is he wearing many hats (friendfeed head honcho and facebook openess builder)?
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Paul: I'm right, right? There's something stopping you from saying that you are no longer adding new features to what 'we' know as Friendfeed?
- Jim Connolly
Not for nothing, but I took my friendfeed embed off my tiny blog for a few weeks after the facebook buy out. There was just this empty spot on my eyesore of a website, so I put the embed back. We care because we like the connections we've made here and don't want to lose them. It's personal for us to.
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Paul: Amazing how quickly you guys have adopted the Facebook attitude to silence. Pity.
- Jim Connolly
Paul: blink twice if you will add new features to FF. I won't tell anyone, honest.
- Edward Zwart
FWIW he did just upgrade servers. My e-mail notifications are almost real-time. Sounds to me like they're still improving the service.
- Jesse Stay
Jim: Don't blame Paul on that, it's not fair. He's only allowed to say so much at this point but I'm very satisfied on what he said.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Jesse: The questions not if they keep the servers running - we want to know if this is a dead platform.
- Jim Connolly
Jim: in Paul's defense Facebook's PR is more controlling than FriendFeed's was. I'm sure he's having to consider the effects his words will have on other people inside Facebook. But, I'm VERY HAPPY that Paul is here giving us hints as to what's coming. I wish it had happened six weeks ago so we wouldn't have lost so many people, but maybe that would happen anyway.
- Robert Scoble
Jim, there may be a few new things, but as I said, the team is mainly working on fb platform and openness, so it's unlikely that there will be any big new features of ff (except maybe one that I've been thinking about for a while...).
- Paul Buchheit
Did the Walrus think about Feed Splicing? :-)
- Robert Scoble
Paul: Finally - THAT'S what we were wondering.
- Jim Connolly
Cool Dude: Need it to have a classier forum than the parent; Parent is still good but the options here make it just a bit nicer.
- ThatDBD
Paul: Pity. At least we now know not to expect any developments or improvements. Thanks for answering the question. Whilst it confirmed my fears, it's good to know what's happening.
- Jim Connolly
I have no problem with FB integration (notice my drool above). Hoping for good friend conversion tools to bring subscribers over as friends or fans on Facebook from FriendFeed. (Connect.registerUsers FTW!)
- Jesse Stay
As a result - Jim has left the platform.
- Jim Connolly
Jim: this is a change from last week, by the way. My sources were telling me that we weren't going to get any new features and now Paul is refuting that and saying we might get one new feature here.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still drooling - anyone have a towel?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I'll buy you a virtual one over on Ning.
- Robert Scoble
personally, i would be happy just to have FF not fall apart and die. given the post-acquisition situation, anything beyond that is gravy!
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Robert, I heard Ning is dead - care to send me one on Facebook? ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Robert, think of it as 20% time. If there's a feature I want, I'll just add it :)
- Paul Buchheit
Thank you for the clarification, Paul, and hope you are feeling better.
- WorldofHiglet
a communication channel that will be around and getting improved no matter what happens, our blogs :D I'll be commenting on yours Jim. 20%, that's a helluva light better than 0%, that's actually much more than I expected. Could we crowd source funding to buy you more %?
- Mark Essel
Even if there no new features in Friendfeed, I am happy with Friendfeed just staying on.
- ashish
how many users are there on friendfeed is there any chance we could buy it out (and get a full time dev staff back)? This platform rules, the dev team is incredible (albeit on facebook stuff now).
- Mark Essel
Paul, if you wanted me to bake you some cookies, all you had to do was ask, GEEZ.
- Derrick
Question: how many facebook bucks do we have to buy in total to get Paul and team working on friendfeed more of the time (100% ;)
- Mark Essel
Twitter doesn't accept cupcakes any more (just check Foursquare when at their offices). How about FriendFeed? :-)
- Jesse Stay
Mark, I'm okay with better Facebook integration. There's a lot of power in that (hence my drooling).
- Jesse Stay
I've got mixed feelings Jesse. I have friends on facebook. Then I have people that get excited by the same stuff that I do on friendfeed
- Mark Essel
Mark, I'm really hoping it ends up the best of both worlds - that would be really cool
- Jesse Stay
im going back to efnet - i got a bus for 7pm - anyone want on? :-P
- Allen Stern
I don't think you can mix the two sites at all. This has been repeated over and over. FriendFeed's technology might be portable, the concept, no.
- Jorge Escobar
Is it too late to do something about it. If it's a question of funds, can't we raise some? I mean this is the best communication platform I've come across yet. Facebook could be, if they just handed over the reigns to Paul, but its unlikely that sort of shift could happen.
- Mark Essel
Is the user perceived need of a full time devoted dev staff a fallacy?
- Mark Essel
I think you could make the case that some sites and services can in fact be "done" at some point, and simply require resources to keep them up and running.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: That's a potential advantage of turnkey application-level hosting such as App Engine: the resources to keep them up and running are almost entirely outsourced. ~All costs are variable costs, monetization improves over time, variable costs decline over time, so services that are "done" can literally just coast.
- Daniel Dulitz
They could open up something like friendfeed. Distributed social networks, with many servers would make search more challenging (search like status could help). The Internet keeps on chugging, it's a distributed information network that's been alive for many years. Our social networks should live, as does the underlying Internet.
- Mark Essel
Nice Daniel, I've been having fun playing around there (frankensearch.appspot.com). I'm using it to get to learn a little more about scala and lift now.
- Mark Essel
might be a full-time job times 2 or 3 for any fresh devs - safe to say Paul's got a bit of a head-start which changes that equation significantly! .... Also maybe almost as important is simply keeping spammers in check - that makes the difference between a ghost town vs the happy place here we want to keep coming back to enjoy ...
- Dan Freeman
Istanbuldan buyuk bir eferimi hakketti bu cocuklar, bizim icin calisiyorlar
- MobilAdam
from fftogo
Yes, this helps a lot. Thank you, Paul. We were beginning to fight amongst ourselves over these things.
- Kamilah Gill
I bet a good contextual advertising box off to the side could generate 35-50million dollars in 6 months with a user base of 1 million people. The assumption is that the average user spends 100-200 bucks on the site making purchases they'd normally make anyway and the affiliate percentage goes to the social host.
- Mark Essel
Friendfeed's health needn't be measured by the team's willingness to add new features. Shovels haven't changed in hundreds of years, but nobody is running around saying shovels are dying. A shovel is a great tool --a simple one, at that. If anything, I'd take away features on FF, but that's just me. Thanks for jumping in, Paul.
- Chris Baskind
Chris: the problem is that a shovel doesn't get more utility the more people that use it. FriendFeed does.
- Robert Scoble
I think the problem is that some people feel extra messianic some days (which is perfectly okay), and then refuse to see/believe/accept when others don't feel the same way AND point it out. The refusing part is not really okay, I guess.
- Michael Bravo
Thanks for these reassuring words Paul. Have been working hard to get more Flickr users over here after the recent rash of censorship there. Friendfeed's TOS and lack of censorship is a breath of fresh air compared to Flickr.
- Thomas Hawk
I wouldn't say lack of censorship, but community moderated filters. ;)
- Santa CW™
I think you're unnecessarily complicating the discussion by adding new vocabulary, Robert. Now you're talking scale, not features. A product needn't expand its feature set to remain useful. Feature creep is the devil, anyway. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
You can’t predict what the future of technology will bring; so trying is a fool’s game. You can only adapt to the new realities as best you can. Paul's word is that it is still worth the time to invest in FF the tool. The tool may stay in this form but that's still a better design for me than Twitter. If FF is a shovel, Twitter is a spoon feature-wise. Audience volume-wise, it is the reverse.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Ok here's an example of what the social media + contextual ads could like like (sorry can't embed iframe twitter they go full screen so I showed it with friendfeed). But the idea is clear: http://victusmedia.com/social-... This works by sending your tweet stream to zemanta, and then does some backend stuff (which we're working on improving) to get relevant ads from amazon
- Mark Essel
I've been rough on you guys in some comments around, but I'm VERY encouraged to see that you guys see a future for FF. Thanks for shining some light, Paul.
- Scott of Two Countries
A respectable amount of information. Thank you.
- Matthew DeVries
Chris: Pownce had more "features" than Twitter did, yet it died. So did other aggregators like Jaiku. It's not "features" that matter in social software. Well, at least not completely. It's a combination of features with crowds that matter. If the crowds leave FriendFeed has a lot less utility to everyone than if they flow in. Look at this item here. Why is it interesting? Because there's people here talking about it.
- Robert Scoble
take your time PB Bear take your time
- Thomas Power
This is definitely more of the answer we were looking for. Thanks, Paul.
- Alex Scoble
All I can say is "thank you" for letting us know what's going on. I'm glad to hear FF will be around for the foreseeable future. :-) LONG LIVE FRIENDFEED!
- Jason Huebel
I can't find any wave that is even remotely comparable with friendfeed's conversation, if you found one will you invite me? (muzzle at googlewave)
- Emme Ci
Great news, I await the new functions eagerly
- Mo Kargas
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the best thing I've seen ALL day!! woo hoo!! Thanks Paul :) {{{ HUG }}}
- Susan Beebe
Just a few words of assurance go a long way, Paul. Thank you for finally giving us something more solid to stand on. It's been frustrating for a lot of us waiting for the other shoe to drop and this news makes it much easier to keep investing time in FriendFeed. Please don't be shy about reaffirming that it's not going away on a regular basis because it's always good to hear.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I will say it for the least time! Friendfeed kicks ass :). The rest who is saying friendfeed is dying. please SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
- alfred westerveld
Tnx Paul, people just want to see that are not "alone"
- CantorJF
from FreshFeed
"As a result - Jim has left the platform. - Jim Connolly" - Was this guy ever on the platform?! A quick glance at his most recent posts [first page] show pretty much 100% of posts made from other platforms. Cut him and his blood runs blue. Twitter blue :)
- 1x29
IF you glance over the Right Wing guys publications-there is some serious Terrorism encouragement from those sociopaths. This looked like a real strong example of what they are encouraging their followers to do??? Been saying we need to pay attention they are respectable foes to intelligence and their agenda is to win at all costs. Dudes they are great foes, need to,got to, have to pay attention to what they are doing. Peace love your neighbors dudes.
- ThatDBD
@ThatDBD I think you're responding to the wrong thread...
- Fa La La La Lindsay
It's fascinating that so many people seem worried about new features. Until recently Twitter added almost no features at all and yet it continued to grow in popularity. FriendFeed's recent slump is all about perception, not tech.
- Eoghann Irving
these conversations take too much time for narcisists with tight schedules (stars). Publicity skyrocketed Twitter to the limelight. Friendfeeds champions are tech geeks, and folks that love chatting and sharing. There aren't many of us though. Give us time, or let us own the platform with a public ipo /buyin from facebook. Free friendfeed!
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Looks like it's official then: FriendFeed lives! On new servers, even! (At least for now...)
- Dennis Jernberg
This is great news! Thanks, Paul, for the update, and if you get a hankering for a feature, great! I'm fine with the tech being your personal sandbox in exchange for keeping the service alive. Robert, I hope this means we'll see more of you and your family - and hear from the ones who have mastered the art of rolling over. Johnny, thanks for having the courage to ask the hard questions (and Louis for helping you frame the issues.) wow - life feels good again!
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from iPhone
This is brilliant news from Paul! Now can we put this FriendFeed is dying business to rest please? It's a self fullfilling prophecy because by saying FF is dying, folks begin leaving, causing a downward spiral which would then cause it to come true!
- technogran
Wan't it to stay? Then begin spreading the word! Get others to use it! At the moment its not mainstream so encourage ordinary users to use FF! The more popular it becomes the less likely it is to fold.
- technogran
technogran: sorry, today you see what's going on. Bing? Displays your Facebook and Twitter tweets. Google? Twitter. Where's FriendFeed in this equation? Now do you get why FriendFeed is destined to be a tiny niche player and why the real action is on Facebook?
- Robert Scoble
Robert, if FF gives me what I'm looking for, why do I care where "the real action" is? If FF serves its niche well, what's the downside?
- Scott of Two Countries
Robert, do you mean that Google doesn't index Friendfeed posts? Friendfeed is the first site that comes up if you search for my name.
- Victor Ganata
Excellent point Victor - but FF only imports a small % of twitter's posts. Ergo Google is still not getting Twitter.
- Roberto Bonini
@Scobleizer - this item is not interesting because of the conversation. it's interesting because of who it's from, and what he said. The fact that there's a conversation around it and that conversation is easy to find and read is a bonus (a feature) that sets this service head and shoulders above others (IMHO). There's really not much interesting in the comments here, if you ask me. You could get rid of all the comments that aren't Paul's and the value of the entry doesn't diminish that much.
- Chris Heath
That isn't to say that conversations around items aren't ever useful or valuable (or interesting as robert says)... but in this case i would say it's who it's from and what he said.
- Chris Heath
Chris: you nailed, in a single paragraph, why Twitter is winning. You now can choose who shows up on your screen and under what context. Well, I can because I have list support. Everyone else will get that next month. Victor: Roberto is right. I barely see ANY of the good stuff I see on Twitter come over here. Well, it comes here because of my favorites feed, but that isn't in nearly as useful a form as it is over at http://www.twitter.com/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you keep saying that's the reason Twitter's winning - I can do that in Facebook and FriendFeed as well.
- Jesse Stay
Well, the problem is that Google doesn't seem to index tweets as well as it indexes Friendfeed posts. And Google has never been able go inside Facebook's walled garden. Hopefully that will change.
- Victor Ganata
(and I have been able to for the last year or so)
- Jesse Stay
Victor, that changed today - see ReadWriteWeb's post. Facebook is opening up public status messages to search engines now.
- Jesse Stay
Why is Twitter/Facebook/FriendFeed a zero sum game? I use both Twitter and FriendFeed a lot - they have different strengths - and they feed into each other. Facebook I use less, but that's a personal issue because I simply like it less. Why does there have to be a winner? And +1 Scott, if I'm in the niche market that FF is serving and I'm happy with it, why should I care if "the real action" is on Facebook? If that's the case, I'll take FF's "fake action," thank you very much.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Paul: Thank you for letting us know status as much as you are able. The fact that you took time to write anything says a lot. So thank you for that. And thank you for FriendFeed in general. It truly does rock. Have a great day.
- Morgan Haley
Why don't you just give us all Facebook accounts for the one's that don't have them and be done with it. But the Turbocharged FF/FB accounts!!
- Gene Williams
@Gene, sorry, you'll have to wait for a FB invite like everyone else!
- Andrew C
@Andrew Oh that sucks, I'm still waiting for my Facebook invite. Do you have one to spare?
- Patrik Johansson
Regola dei film con Bill Murray: se nel film c'è Bill Murray il film è buono oppure ottimo. (ottimo in questo caso). Fin'ora non ho riscontrato eccezioni.
- fakedave
Il film è bello, anche se Murray come al solito non brilla per simpatia
- Giuseppe M.
from fftogo
la frase finale è meglio non saperla....e quoto Hobson......e poi io qui mi sono innamorato di lei per sempre
- MarianOne
Mi pare comunque che su youtube girasse la versione con l'audio modificato per far capire cos'è che si dicono.. e tenendo conto che è una frase che non mi è rimasta in mente, probabilmente non era proprio niente di che :) Comunque si, qua Scarlatta ha fatto un figurone :)
- Serenella
la mia reazione alla bocciatura del lodo Alfano sarebbe molto articolata, ma contiene sicuramente le parole meu amigo charlie brown - http://pensierispettinati.tumblr.com/post...
sono benvenuti link a siti, etc. etc... (sto combattendo una privata battaglia per farle prevalere sulle orcadi..)
- Fabio Affinito
io le mie foto le ho probabilmente ancora a casa dei miei. Però sinceramente son posti splendidi con una luce e una spaziosità che ti entrano negli occhi e ci restano... anche a distanza di tanti anni.
- mastrangelina
se la pensi come risposta alla domanda "ke ci fanno col turisten?" prende una piega inquietante.
- vic
dice mia moglie "azz, sì, bellissime, ma portati un cerotto per il mal di mare" (segue dettaglio di siti e foto, se riesco)
- francesco
sono stata sia alle lofoten e sia alle orcadi: isole entrambe bellissime, ma le lofoten sono un sogno. I colori del mare e del verde sono splendidi. Io non avrei dubbi: lofoten.
- Barbara Meinero
Le Lofoten sono eccezionali. Se ci vai dovrai passare per Svolvaer: sul porto fermati a mangiare una zuppa di pesce da Bacalao, rimane nel cuore.
- Davide Leonelli
La Comunità Astronomica Internazionale ha finalmente deliberato di cambiare il nome del punto in cui la verticale innalzata sopra la testa di un osservatore qualunque incontra la volta celeste: dal primo agosto si chiamerà lo ZioBonino
sarà stato un pedofilo, ma sta canzone mi è troppo cara. Un po' per il videogioco della Sega, un po' perché l'ascoltavo durante il periodo dell'esame di maturità
- Andrea (Notorious)
from Bookmarklet
Il bello è che quelli contro i diritti ai gay, quelli che hanno chiamato Englaro assassino perché ha voluto far cessare le sofferenze sue e della figlia, quelli che se tocchi un crocifisso in una classe sei contro la cultura occidentale, quelli che gli extra-comunitari sono dei pervertiti che attentano alle nostre donne, quelli che Dio, Patria e... - http://sonounprecario.tumblr.com/post...
Io ricarico il mio telefono esclusivamente via USB. Se mi danno un fornetto e il frigo e magari anche una doccia USB mi trasferisco sul Netbook.
- Giulio Ardoino
Da sempre sono le mode americane a contagiare il bel Pese e non il contrario. Invece, sembra incredibile, ma il pettegolezzo di bassa lega di cui l’Italia ultimamente sta facendo il pieno, ha conquistato la ‘Grande Mela’. Ed eccolo, il nostro ammiccante presidente del Consiglio, troneggiare sui manifesti delle strade del Lower East Side di New...
... York, la zona radical chic più in voga del momento. A portarlo alla ribalta americana il gruppo di hip hop statunitense The Black Eyed Peas che promuove il proprio tour accompagnato da un nuovo slogan: “All we go for Younger Meat”, ovvero, "a tutti piace la carne fresca". Ad affiancare le parole, il patron di villa Certosa. Viva il made in Italy. (da libero-news.it)
- Catriona
Giovanni, sono d'accordissimo. Davvero.
- Laurazeta
mai detto che "questo è il meglio" che sappiamo fare. Ma segnalare come un giornale (almeno nella sua forma online, a quello stampato non mi ci avvicino neppure) "racconta" e "interpreta" una notizia mi sembra ancora una mia/nostra prerogativa, no? Senza contare l'aspetto puramente linguistico: "bel Paese", "ammiccante", "la zona radical chic più in voga del momento" (il Lower East Side, poi...), il "patron di villa Certosa"...
- Catriona
Siamo sempre divisi fra quelli che lo votano e quelli che no. Se lo voti, il manipolatore, sei più dalla sua di me che non lo voto. Non lo voto, non lo difendo, non sottoscrivo il suo operato, sono critica sul suo sistema di valori e su quello che ha fatto da quando è al governo. Chi lo vota, no. Mi pare che ci si divida su qualcosa di ben più profondo che quattro chiacchiere da bar.
- Giulia B.
si ma non si deve votare neanche il meno peggio. Per quanto mi riguarda B. dovrebbe essere internato, poi ci penserà la destra a presentare persone più equilibrate
- Lawrence Oluyede
non ho mai detto che lui abbia rubato le elezioni o che. stavo solo dicendo perché secondo me Berlusconi, come persona, non dovrebbe governare. Non tramutiamola sempre in una lotta dx vs sx.
- Lawrence Oluyede
certamente, ma mi viene difficile capire come una persona possa assurgere una persona che ha una morale così deprecabile (e non parlo del recente caso delle escort, ma di tutto il pregresso che la gente sembra dimenticare in fretta), se non comportamenti al di fuori della legge come suo capo. Sarò un idealista del cazzo
- Lawrence Oluyede
il capo di un governo, il rappresentante di un governo e di una intera società di individui raggruppati in una nazione (sì lo so che il primo cittadino è il presidente della repubblica). mi pare ovvio di che sto parlando.
- Lawrence Oluyede
ma che visione tardo stalinista :D hahaha si vede che non mi conosci. per me è molto più lineare: Berlusconi è un farabutto, non dovrebbe avere tutto il potere che ha, fine. Tutto qui, molto più lineare, senza comparazioni o che. Continui a parlare di alternative, io parlo di lui come persona. Non dovrebbe fare il leader di un piffero se non delle sue aziende (e se ha fatto qualcosa di...
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- Lawrence Oluyede
se la gente votasse le idee e non la persona, perché Silvio ha sentito l'esigenza di candidarsi alle europee pur sapendo che non sarebbe andato mai a Strasburgo? Lui stesso ha dichiarato più volte che se non si impegna in prima persona la sua parte non raccoglie i consensi sperati. La dinamica che tu descrivi,Giovanni, sarebbe ideale.Apprezzo molto che tu la applichi. Garantirebbe una...
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- PaperDoll
no, non ci capiamo proprio. Io parlo di mele, tu parli di pere.
- Lawrence Oluyede
infatti l'ultimo è l'unico dei tre quesiti che mi convince veramente.
- PaperDoll
io ho cominciando parlando di moralità dubbia, tu sei partito per la tangente parlando della sinistra. non ho parlato di illegalità (vedi il se tra parentesi). ho parlato di morale.
- Lawrence Oluyede
Certo, se equipariamo assoluzione ad assoluzione perché il fatto non costituisce più reato (da quando l'imputato si è fatto una legge apposta) a non processabilità (perché si è fatto una legge apposta, avendo corrotto un giudice) a prescrizione per mutamento delle pene previste per il tipo di reato (mutamento realizzato sempre dallo stesso imputato), allora non si può dire altro che...
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- Giulia B.
vic: da adesso appena m'arriva un pacco il leitmotiv sarà: siamo tutti patrizia. (lapo/cimadirapagate sempre lì stiamo). genio puro. te lo già detto vero?
- lapiccolacuoca
perché quelli che dicono: un caffè, ma buono eh? (sulla simpatia tra baristi e clienti bisognerebbe scriverci un tomo)
- Achille
ma anche quelli che menù in mano chiedono allo chef: ma è buono? (no. è lì da un mese. con la muffa. in fondo al frigo. che qua non si butta via niente)
- lapiccolacuoca
[Un po' come quelle che chiedono al marito/fidanzato/martire-anyway "Mi sta bene? Mi fa il culo grosso?" - Ecco]
- Sir Squonk
Ecco, io dell'esistenza di quelle che dice il Sir non mi sono mai fatta una ragione. Secondo me le abbiamo inventate noi che per mestiere scriviam di 'ste cagate.
- guia
from fftogo
Ma pure quei baristi che gli chiedi un caffè e loro: una crema al dottore!, arrotando il più possibile la erre per sottolineare l'originalità della definizione
- miic
from fftogo
@madi: il succo d'ananas no. ti fa il culo grosso.
- lapiccolacuoca
Non riesco a smettere di ridere, vaccapì perché. Ma davvero c'è gente che chiede una crema? E poi cos'è? Te lo sei inventato su
- Webgol
from fftogo
insomma, qualcosa di analcolico e non gassato. Un cocktail di frutta, faccia lei. Grazie
- madisonav
Bon, allora sappiamo chi incolpare (che poi tu dici "No, credimi, altrimenti te lo direi" e loro, deluse, si rivolgono alla commessa chiedendo "Ma come mi cade? Secondo lei, mi allarga sui fianchi?" e tu allora te ne vai a bere una birra che tanto vale)
- Sir Squonk
E lei risponde: "No la sfina tantissimo. Sta 'n amore".
- madisonav
["Te l'avevo detto anch'io, mi pare" - "Sì, ma tu cosa ne vuoi capire"]
- Sir Squonk
@madisonav: quindi tu dici che mi prendono per il culo quando chiedo "Un cocktail di frutta"? Di solito me lo preparano. A volte bevo anche cose buone ed originali (seppur illeggittimamente costose)
- Smeerch
"...che crema d'Arabia ch'è cchistu ccafè..." - Don Raffaè - Fabrizio de Andrè
- Fabrizio M.
Sir, se lei comunica a sua moglie gli stessi esatti concetti della commessa non s'avventuri oltre
- madisonav
@Smeerch, sarai d'accordo che chiedere un "cocktail di frutta" è come affidarsi al mago otelma?
- madisonav
in effetti a milano dire "cocktail alla frutta" può portare a piacevoli sorprese, oppure a bere qualcosa di simile alla sciacquatura di piatti...
- thursdaynext
una volta ho visto la scena seguente: una signora chiede un caffè al vetro, il barista dice che hanno solo tazzine normali, e lei allora dice "allora macchiato". Vi giuro che da allora cerco di capire il senso, qualcuno mi spieghi
- keplero
forse (perché dipende da città) intendeva il marocchino. era invalso il suddetto modo di dire. (il marocchino va servito in tazza di vetro.) oppure voleva davvero il caffè in tazza di vetro. (faccio fatica a immaginare che volesse caffè con pezzi di vetro dentro. oh tutto può essere)
- lapiccolacuoca
no, a roma al vetro significa nel bicchierino di vetro. ma come, in mancanza di questo, si passi alla sostituzione con un caffè macchiato, è cosa che mi sfugge.
- keplero
ma anche: ha cambiato idea. (mi sto arrampicando sul vetro)
- lapiccolacuoca
@kep secondo me poteva dire "niente vetro? Hmm, come altro posso romperti i coglioni?"
- vic
@vic, anche per me è l'ipotesi più probabile
- keplero