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What Do You Call a Carbonated Soft Drink? [US regional differences; enlarge map] - http://bigshottexas.blogspot.com/2009...
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Pop
- Tyson Key
I have seen this before and find it fascinating especially the parts of the country where it's referred to as a Coke. What happens if you want a Pepsi or a Sprite?
- Kenton
Heh, good question, Kenton
- Tyson Key
It's always called a 'Coke' regardless of what the beverage actually is. At least that's how it is/was with my country Southern relatives.
- Derrick
But Derrick what I don't get is if you are in a restaurant that serves many different things, how would you order? I can see it if you go to someone's house and they say what do you want and you say Coke, you get what they have, but the restaurant part confuses me.
- Kenton
Strange but true: I checked http://popvssoda.com as part of my job interview preparations before taking this job in Memphis back in 2005.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
the same thing that happens when you call facial tissues Kleenex but you refer to a product other than Kleenex. it's not terribly complicated :). i call it soda-pop, which may be due to an unhealthy exposure to the Outsiders as a child. @Kenton in an environment where it's Coke, you would likely be asked what type in that situation, just as you would if you said you'd like a soda-pop and there was more than one type available.
- jocoda
Kenton, they'd say they wanted a Coke, then the waiter/waitress would say what kind, then they'd say root beer, 7Up, whatever afterwards. I always just asked for iced tea.
- Derrick
LOL Derrick, that sounds like the safe thing to do.
- Kenton
I always say "soda" in hopes of avoiding the "you asked for Coke but all we have is Pepsi, is Pepsi OK?" question because I am happy drinking whichever. They always ask though, so I guess I need a new gambit. Worse, my parents like to pull out the old "were you raised by Yankees?!" when I say "soda" in their presence.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Anyone know what an "other" might be?
- Frank Senseney
Frank: soft drink, fizzy, and cola come to mind.
- Mark Trapp
Restaurants work the same way here, at least in Texas. The waitress takes your drink order, and you tell her what you want. No one here says "coke" generically, to a waitress. If the waitress asks me what I want to drink and I want Dr. Pepper, I say, "Dr. Pepper." However, in casual conversation, "coke" means soft drink here and when someone wants a soft drink, we say "I want a coke."
- Trish R
I WANT A LITER OF COLA: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Fizzy lifting drinks!
- Yolanda
I think I say "soda." It's hard to say, because I generally call my beverage "DVC" (The right initials never stuck in my head when I switched from Diet Vanilla Coke to Vanilla Coke Zero, besides, VCZ is not as cool to say). I rarely ever use a generic term. My country-deepsouthern relatives say "pop."
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Why are people using the terms "country" and "southern" as meaning the same thing?
- Trish R
Here in Australia they are usually called soft drinks or fizzy drinks, as opposed to beer which if often called "piss". "Let's have a piss-up, who's going to get the piss?" Classy eh?
- jjprojects
The widespread emergence of using a specific brand of soda to refer to all types when many different types are vastly different from each other puzzles me. You can compare it to Xerox, but on the other hand you get the same result from a Xerox copy machine and a Lexmark copy machine while there's a drastic difference between Sprite, Coke, Dr. Pepper, et al. Reading the above comments I see how it's used, but how it's used seems like a waste of time to me.
- Tom Harrison
Pop is Michigan
- bcultral
Pop. When I lived in Georgia it was soda.
- Maxamad
The blog you cite is for invited readers only.
- John P
"Tonic" is one of the "others" in Massachusetts.
- John P
So, my (almost) 13 year old niece did this facebook quiz that's suppose to give her info about her future marriage. According to the quiz, she will be marrying her step-father in 20 years and having 6 kids with him. Her response was "NOW THATZ JUST SICK AND CRUEL!" I'm hoping that she is now cured of taking these types of quizzes.
Steven Perez, Soup, David Lynch and 2 other people liked this
It started out as pot roast, but I think I've added too many veggies. Might turn into soup. Darn ;-)
Steven Perez, Sascha Silberholz Wasek, Jim Hearts FF and 24 other people liked this
that could become a damned fine soup.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Toss it in a food processor and you could have (dramatic pause) WICKED MUSH!!!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
We had baby portabella mushrooms left in the fridge and I couldn't keep them out of the pot. It's like they just jumped in on their own! Think I'm going to make some wild rice to have on the side: if it jumps in the pot too we'll definitely be having soup.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
from fftogo
Looks wholesome!
- orionstarr
from iPhone
more meat and make 'er a stew!
- Mike Lewis
Shrooms FTW
- Maxamad
Actually there's a good 2 lbs of roast buried underneath all the veggies. Once it's tender enough I'll shred it into big chunks. At this point, I'm just trying to not drool...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Soup: I eated it. Now I'm too full to go run my errands *begins transformation into a lazy slug*
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yumm! We used to make this with a pebble and call it 'Stone Soup'! It looks like it was quite delicious!
- Michael Sherwood
We had Greek chicken with potatoes
- orionstarr
from iPhone
looks yummy
- johnpiercy
Happy Gnomedex to all my Friendfeeding pals! - http://joshhaley.soup.io/post...
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Harun Topuz, Sascha Silberholz Wasek, 2ndmoon© and 42 other people liked this
iPod touch goes to...
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Oh, I forgot to put my card in. :(
- Rochelle
makes me dizzy though:(
- Pam Gwenzi
ignite rules
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
I think that avatar of Chris will give me nightmares tonight. :P
- MarkCarras
I want a fez!
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
is it time to get up yet?
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
I'm dizzy now. thanks Josh
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
looks funny when you scroll and it pauses : P
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
is the dex still rolling?
- Josh Haley
It ended last night.
- Akiva Moskovitz
All finished last night.
- Internet's Tad
ok. gonna go back to my corner now.
- Josh Haley
still funny
- Josh Haley
This came up in my feed while listening to some Jungle, and I have to say it works well with a Jungle soundtrack.
- Sparky, a big deal
Awesome, Sparky.
- Josh Haley
He never tires.
- Josh Haley
Bid not accepted. Turning out to be a banner week....
Katie: Witch Of The West, Jimminy, sam and 3 other people liked this
:(
- Alex Scoble
uh huh
- Janice
Boo =(
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
:-( squared. guess it's the wrong time to ask if you're finally gonna come through on that kilt photo huh?
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Well, I guess the bright side is I'll have a lot more time for Friendfeed since there isn't any work in Q4...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
World Bank says don't take dollar's place for granted http://news.yahoo.com/s...
David Lynch, Alex Scrivener, Alex Scoble and nakachi liked this
and the euro. the yuan is trying to do something, and i wouldn't be surprised if australia's dollars were on the come up. if i had enough money to worry about such a thing, i'd have my stuff tied up in all sorts of foreign currency and assets.
- tiffany
YouTube - The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class - Prof. Elizabeth Warren - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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David Lynch liked this
This is why you're coming to Gnomedex next year:
TheHenry, Tim Hayden, Mona Nomura and 96 other people liked this
Freaky Friday!! :)
- Justin Korn
Open bar?
- CAJ, somewhere else
x_x
- Derrick
That looks like a good reason not to go actually :p
- matthew john ernisse
freaky tuesday!!!
- Pam Gwenzi
I just ate. Not sure but I think I'm not feeling well anymore. Damn you!
- sean808080
I love this photo. I don't know why I have this image in my head of Robert always being so serious and focused but seeing him be all goofy makes me giggle.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
pea, the only time I've ever seen Robert as anything other than giddy-as-hell is when someone questions his integrity. Otherwise, he's a kid in a candy store. He's living the dream and I hate him for it. HATE.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Curtis, two free drink tickets and cash bar thereafter. :)
- Rochelle
oh my...
- jbrotherlove
Is that the real Chris?
- Melanie Reed
Melanie, yes.
- Rochelle
They aren't coming to see me? :(
- joey
Rochelle, thanks!
- Melanie Reed
Great photo!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
lol nice pic
- Kevin Nunez
Huh. The photographer is over here: http://thelettertwo.com/
- Micah Wittman
I took this photo when I was in Seattle last weekend for Gnomedex. Thanks Robert & Chris for letting me snap this photo during one of the parties.
- Kenneth
Great shot Ken!
- AllisonWagda
Awesome picture Ken!
- Elliott Ng
Micah, yeah, he has some great pictures from the weekend. Good job, Ken! :)
- Rochelle
Everytime this picture floats by I hear a voice go NAARF!
- mikepk
NERDS GONE WILD: CANCUN.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Why do they still have shirts on?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Agh! OMG, it does.
- Zachary TG
geeks...;)
- testbeta
Get Your Walk Score - A Walkability Score For Any Address - http://www.walkscore.com/
David Lynch, lelapin, Andrew C and 3 other people liked this
Superbly done website to compute a "walkability" score for a city address. What's your score?
- Louis Simoneau
from Bookmarklet
my current residence scored a '34'
- T. Brent, technopeasant
My current neighborhood gets a 71.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
@Brent: well that's certainly Calgary for you...
- Louis Simoneau
Our new place in Melbourne gets a 95! w00t!
- Louis Simoneau
I just tried my house, and it did give a perfect list of walkability to everything around me, therefore, I would totally use this website, when moving to a new area, so I don't have to guess distances by hand!
- David Lynch
by contrast, my last apartment in montreal scores an 80 *sigh*
- T. Brent, technopeasant
"We are not going to give up now. We are going to get this done, and show the American people that govt can work for them." #hc09
Paul Cummings and David Lynch liked this
Dear mr. President, You know what happened recent months to Iranian nation! They gottortured, raped, killed in cold blood brutally the world has ever seen. You pretend nothing has happened, you say US won't interfere with Iran's internal affairs! This is not internal affairs!!!!! This is Human Rights issue you say US won't put itself in jeopardy that CIA will be blamed again! CIA...
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- dear_iran
USA Today Dietitian Recommends McDonalds, KFC, Taco Bell And Burger King On Today Show [VIDEO] | Huffington Post - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009...
Sarah Miller, David Lynch, Joe and 2 other people liked this
“While Ward and Lauer tout the value of eating fruit as a healthy snack, for the most part this dietitian throws her support behind the idea that processed fast food, filled with additives, preservatives and factory farmed meat is good for us, as long as it doesn't exceed a certain number of calories...”
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
"Just ask this Scientician ... "
- dkb
Yay! I'll have all four for lunch then! :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
++ postlinearity
- Jennifer Dittrich
++ jennifer
- Todd Hoff
I would not feed that to a dog let alone a human.
- Joe
dkb++
- Andrew C
I'm not sure why I would want to watch this video.
- David Lynch
I admit, I'm not an expert ... but it seems a bit odd to focus purely on calories and not on saturated fat?
- dkb
@dkb: Aside from food purity/quality, I actually think we don't focus on simple carbs/sugars enough. That's what's killing us, not calories nor saturated fat.
- Anthony Citrano
Fair enough .... did you find the report strange that it only focused on calories?
- dkb
I'm a fan of Taco Bell. I could live on Baja Chalupas. (my genes will allow that.)
- Gus
@dkb: I found the calorie-focus annoying but not strange, no. But that's because I'm a bit cynical when it comes to mainstream media's ability to get things right (including, generally, their choice of “experts”) - or their collective ability to look forward rather than backward. What I found a bit stranger of course was her casual acceptance of crapfood as if it were equal to other sources of nutrition and a perfectly fine meal.
- Anthony Citrano
But this is just it, isn't it? They chose that woman who -- and I'm sure she's a lovely person -- all but gave the entire nation a free pass to eat junk food and feel good about it. So, I have to ask: is this just one nutritionist trying to make a buck, or (more worryingly) is it the influence of corporate 'partners' on the national debate?
- dkb
@dkb: they already have a free pass, they didn't need one from Ms. Ward.
- Anthony Citrano
You're right ... siiiigh .... <bangs head on table repeatedly>
- dkb
I'd like to reiterate my call for Facebook to open source the Friendfeed codebase (as AOL did when it bought Netscape). A federated OpenFriendfeed is the best for users - and fits Facebook's move toward an open social platform. I'll pay to run a server. Would you?
Brian Hendrickson, helpmeguru, Justin Bradshaw and 223 other people liked this
I agree with this fully.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I can't imagine that the terms of the acquisition would permit this to happen. Oh, wait... Facebook take FriendFeed open source? Maybe in two or three years after they squeeze every bit of life out of it, ala Google/Jaiku
- Ken Sheppardson
Would that mean there would be dozens of Friendfeeds all trying to get us to come to them?
- Mark
I support this fully
- Ryan
yes what about a free GAE
- abdellah
Oh I agree. But with Facebook's record? HAHAH! Oh god, I need a mint.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I'll file this away under "Never Gonna Happen"...
- Andrew Terry
Jaiku is not dead. It was bought for a reason, and yes, it will resurface soon. you just wait n see.
- binmugahid
yes
- andy brudtkuhl
I agree with Andrew...
- Suril Amin
I don't think I'd pay, but I'd love to have it open source
- Jake Anderson
Worked for AOL. We got Mozilla and they got a much improved Netscape.
- Leo Laporte
Leo, I think you have a little too much "hope" on this. Maybe you're just thinking if Facebook was smart, then they'd do that.
- Mark
Facebook is much smarter than you're giving them credit for. I think.
- Leo Laporte
great idea Leo, i'm 'cautiously optimistic' at this point in time about the future of FriendFeed... lets hope for the best people
- Chris Heath
There is no value in that to them. Why open source something that give them a competitive edge.
- binmugahid
I do not agree. It destroyed netscape. let Facebook use the best features of FriendFeed in it. Keep the talent like the four ex-google founders. Open source is not the answer to everything. sometimes Closed Source is better for the users as well. Just keep the innovations coming and it will be fine
- hasanahmad
They've got the Friendfeed team. That's probably what they really wanted. Getting the open source community working on the FF codebase and contributing it back to Facebook is a win for everyone.
- Leo Laporte
On the other hand, I ike to see Laconica (identi.ca) getting more like ff.
- Chanux
Wow did this just happen today?
- bravestface
yesterday
- Chris Heath
Open-sourcing Communicator may have ultimately destroyed Netscape as a brand but without that move, I suspect we'd all still be developing for IE6. Great call, Leo.
- Jared Smith
Excellent idea Leo.
- Adi
I just can't stand Facebook. To many people I let in from my youth that I don;t want to see
- bravestface
Yes.
- .LAG liked that
You're assuming that Facebook bought the company JUST to get the developers, and not because they want to integrate many/most of the features into their service. If they want the features, they don't want a bunch of clones competing with them.
- Joel Bennett
I'll send you a hefty donation for that Leo.
- jcunwired
bravestface: That's not FB's fault you let them in. sheesh.
- Gus
when will twitter be back up any 1 know
- daveccorey
There already is an open source clone of twitter - see identi.ca and laconia or whatever it's called
- Doug Holton
True. very True Gus. My own fault. Perhaps I need to setup an Alias account that encompasses what i really want
- bravestface
I already run a Laconica server at http://army.twit.tv - I don't think we need another Twitter clone. We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer.
- Leo Laporte
hay hay hay, sin duda un tema un tanto escabrozo, pero entre Facebook y Google, esto no lleva a nada bueno.. i'ts a hard theme, no doubt about that, but between facebook and google we are going to hell !!!!!!
- Đoи яамoη
Or Pushbutton?
- bravestface
This would be amazing.
- Adam Teece
The Wave *protocal* might be a part of the answer... or just giving yourself over to whatever Google wants you to use might work (i.e. Wave, Reader, Gtalk, etc.)... but I don't really see Wave asdirect 1-for-1 FF replacement.
- Ken Sheppardson
Too many systems in place
- bravestface
They open sourced the Facebook code base (fbopen)... the license is very restrictive, however. FB owns all code modifications. Probably be the same license for FF.
- Kurt
In know people that have replaced their email with Twitter....that just isn't right...we need one locator that many systems can reach
- bravestface
Great idea Leo. Now let's see what they do, if they're listening.
- Kelly Mitchell
Leo - your last comment is why I think Facebook bought Friendfeed: "We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer." This is going to be a product they will launch in opposition of Google Wave. It will surface Q1 of 2010 and will have some of the same features that Wave has - but be closed sourced to Facebook.
- Jeff Vreeland
I see what you mean. Facebook and Google though don't really open source their web apps
- Doug Holton
Facebook doesn't seem to have a good reputation with those kind of thing. Facebook promised to open their chat/IM system via XMPP. More than a year has passed since they announced this XMPP system it still did not happen. We still have to rely on screen-scraping methods to implement Facebook chat on third-party IM systems (like the 3rd party Facebook chat plugin for pidgin called pidgin-facebook).
- Gideon Guillen
I would love to see friendfeed become opensource. Mostly as a developer I would love to see the code. See how friendfeed works.
- mikemcmullan
An "open FriendFeed" could be Facebook's chance to get something lined up to compete with Google Wave. Without it, Google and Twitter are going to own the real-time communication space.
- Derek Gathright
Completly agree!
- Jamie-Lee Mclean-Davis
from Nambu
Absolutely.
- Ian Littman
OS FF would be awesome, but making it a federated service is an entirely different ball of wax. Just ask the Wave guys. They said during the original IO presentation that federation was one of the harder parts (though FF would be easier w/o the real time editing piece, but still).
- Patrick Sullivan
OS FF
- Malcolm Bastien
I think a integrated RSS/FB/FF/GW/Twitter client will be an interesting real time inflection point
- Jim Posner
I totally agree Leo. I can't help but think that this deal is going to be a massive success or a massive flop - nothing in the middle! It's simple things like opening the FF source that can help make it a massive success IMHO.
- Chris Cathcart
I would just like to see the real-time commenting open-sourced.
- patrick
wow Leo you sure know how to get a topic started
- Joe Geeting
I actually was hoping Twitter would be the one to grab it up. Seems like a natural progression for Twitter to make. I just hope Facebook doesn't bury it and they actually use it. As far as open source it? Could be interesting.
- Michael Bower
In a secure and closed environment it could be a powerful communication/collaboration tool for businesses. Features of a chat, but persistent. Ability to share photos & files...
- Ken Bauer
definently
- Ryan Peach
Right-o
- Myrddin Emrys
I would love for this to happen. Federated Friendfeed servers would be quite fun and is the logical step for a great Internet service which aggregates disparate information from all over.
- rob friedman
You know what, Jaiku was open sourced. And nobody uses it anymore. The fact that "it" (FB open sourcing FF) will happen or not is completely irrelevant. Because you will all be hopping on the next early adopter miracle train (read:service) anyway. So stop whining and move on. Federated this, federated that. identi.ca tried that. Again, no users. It's nice to talk the talk. Especially at times like this. You just gotta walk the darn walk afterwards. Which people usually forget to do.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Whoa... you should enhance your calm. Communities are finicky things and sources like Microsoft that are poo-pooing Open Source IMHO is the real problem. Me thinks that a better source of education to dissipate the FUD floating in the global porcelain bowel instead of modern political tactics are are needed to solve real problems.
- Myrddin Emrys
very good proposition, i'd pay
- Brian Appleby
Leo, like this idea.
- Kol Tregaskes
adoption of open standards such as OMB, which is used by laconica, would allow federation among servers
- Mike Chelen
It will one hell of a start, I doubt it though...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
It would be a good thing, but not sure it it will ever happen
- Thomas Lee
I support this as well.
- Carlos Ayala
Now this is something I would fly out to support at the launch...
- Johnny Worthington
Another reason why Leo kicks ass
- Mo Kargas
If FriendFeed went open source identi.ca / lamonica would be dealt a serious blow. FriendFeed could become even more powerful if the people could tinker with the code and add many features that remain missing, or strengthen features that currently are weak. It will be interesting to se how FB utilizes their newest acquisition...
- Randy Shapiro
FYI, there's already an open source alternative: http://www.fftogo.com/e...
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
absolutley ;)
- Kenneth Reitz
i would pay
- cheapsuits
ive all ready got a amp for 5 bucks 4 twitter that was suspsose to help twitter run better guess what it dont
- daveccorey
no definitely not. it would shift everything to Chinese government... Damn, millions would have their rest life in prisons.
- xiawinter
Seriously you people satisfied with our health care system are lying. You are big, fat, evil, don't want to care about me, lying mcliarpants
Tricia Harvey, heretic_twit, Chris Olin and 49 other people liked this
or we're just smart enough to realize that the day we get nationalized healthcare, you can forget about ever having a cure for cancer or aids or what have you
- Josh Betz
Josh that is an ignorant and exagerrated view and there is nothing to prove what you just said. The people of this country have been scared for too long of socialized/nationalized medicine. Our law enforcement, fire department, and more have been socialized and they work. I am willing to try anything, as long as its change.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
from Android
Agreed Sean..
- Bill Heslin
Josh, do you seriously think that you get cancer research through the hospital system?
- Alex Scoble
watching Newshour and it makes me sick to think the mcliarpants are gonna carry the day with their shrill brute selfishness. it really underscores the essence of American movement and bedrock conservatices: they dont give a damn about anybody else but them and theirs. makes me sick to think we are not going to get reform cuz of the nasty curs. Feh!
- Thom Kennon
I don't normally get involved with political topics but I can't help it when it comes to health care. I'm Canadian and our health care is a joke, you don't want any part of it. The reason most Canadians are against Obama's plan is that we'll have no where to go if we get really sick. Canadians put up with 8 hour waits for simple care because its "free" but we flock to the U.S when we're...
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- Justin Luey
Cancer research, for example, is good and all, but we need to be focusing on prevention.
- Nick Humphries
According to WaPo columnist Steven Pearlstein, you're also a "political terrorist" if you get in the way of consensus on health care reform.
- Garmon Estes
As if cancer research wasn't already funded by the government. Without the NIH, where would we be? The profit margins on anti-cancer drugs aren't exactly making pharmaceutical companies obscenely rich. Anyway, nothing Obama is proposing will prevent the Saudi Arabian sheiks and European royalty from getting state-of-the-art care in Rochester, MN. And Canadians can still come if they're willing to pay cash.
- Victor Ganata
48% of U.S. voters now rate the U.S. health care system as good or excellent. 19% rate it as poor. The new polling also shows that 80% of those with insurance rate their own coverage as good or excellent. That's an awful lot of big, fat, evil, don't want to care about me, lying mcliarpants! LOL
- Don Smith
I am sorry you feel that way. Unfortunately, sometimes in a two-party system, when one side doesn't like the way that a particular problem is being addressed, whether it's from the perception that it's being pushed through too hastily, or with too many hangers-on or "pork," the alternative that some choose to express is, "what we have now is better than what is being presented." Here in...
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- midnightgolfer
But it's not mutually exclusive. The 80% who like their current insurance aren't necessary averse to health care reform. And it's all perspective. The U.S. health care system is definitely better than the average developing country, but it's definitely broken in a lot of ways. Nothing is perfect. I think people are at least aware enough that just because they really like their insurance now doesn't mean they'll necessarily have their insurance in the next year or so, given the current state of the economy.
- Victor Ganata
Josh, that first comment reminds me of a somewhat famous Paul Tsongas gaffe - he claimed that it was America's health care system that produced the treatment that (at that time) saved his life, but in fact it came from Canada. The fact is, medical innovations come from all over the world... (edit: cite here: http://www.sociology101.net/reading... ) BTW,...
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- Andrew C
Good god. FIrst of all, we're not getting Canada's health care or socialized health care. The current program on the table lets you keep your insurance if you want to. But you may not because there will be competition. Second of all, I just spent Mon-Friday in the hospital and anyone who is happy with their health care in this country hasn't been in the hospital lately.
- Erin @queenofspain
Justin: I'm sorry you feel like but that is not my experience of health care here in Canada at all, nor of most people judging by the reports seen recently. There is an issue of waiting times but they are a problem wherever you go.
- WorldofHiglet
The portion of our healthcare system that is already government funded is problematic, so it's not hard to see why there are concerns about moving further in that direction. Safety net hospitals--those that provide care to low income, uninsured, under-insured, at-risk populations--play a crucial role in community health, but struggle to stay afloat in the face of late and absent...
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- Kathy Fitch
But the private system is in itself broken, and its brokenness overflows onto the public system, exacerbating the problems they already face.
- Victor Ganata
No doubt that the whole thing is overdetermined--the issues and the causes thereof are many and complicated. I've been on lots of sides of the thing: a unionized higher ed worker with utterly fabulous benefits, a stay at home mom staring the possibility of COBRA in its very expensive face, a part of an organization having to provide the insurance to its workers, a part of an...
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- Kathy Fitch
Here's a quote from Rep. Mike Ross, one of the Blue Dogs, bragging about how he stalled the bill: "If it had been based on Medicare rates, I can assure you that it would have eventually ended up resulting in a single payer-type system, because Medicare has really good rates, because they're negotiating for every senior in America. Private insurance companies could not have competed with that." -- protecting his constituency from "really good rates", what a stand-up guy.
- (dot)lizard kelly
Well--good rates don't change the actual costs, that's the thing. Medicare doesn't cover actual cost. That cost will have to be covered, though.
- Kathy Fitch
@WorldOfHiglet - agreed! I'm Canadian and proud of our health care system. There's waiting times for non-essential procedures, but never anything for a life-threatening condition. No-one in Canada is punted off the plan for a "pre-existing condition" or recission.
- Matt Mastracci
A system not based in profit would go a hell of a long way towards controlling costs.
- (dot)lizard kelly
I expect to profit when I provide a product or service. Seems like most of us do. Research and development, medications, blood products, sutures, medical and surgical expertise, specialized machinery and folks to operate it-it all costs. Who in that chain should not profit from the product or service they provide? Even not-for-profit organizations do need to make a profit, it's just...
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- Kathy Fitch
And that is why, Holden, you are a worthy God. ;-) (When did that happen, by the way? I must have been sleeping.)
- Kathy Fitch
Hah--well please let us know if you have any urges toward flooding us all out and starting over with a better class of humans.
- Kathy Fitch
No fee schedule--public or private--actual covers the prices anyone charges, although Medicare really is one of the better payers. But since the prices aren't at all subject to market forces, how do we figure out what a fair price is? Basically it's arbitrarily set, although I realize Medicare's RBRVS system (which most private payers tend to adapt to their fee schedules to anyway)...
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- Victor Ganata
Victor, yes, the inflammatory falsehoods part is really a key factor for me. Following the money behind the "grassroots" movement to disrupt and block reform leads to a who's who of the most corrupt health profiteers.
- (dot)lizard kelly
That's the crux of it, isn't it, Victor? It's like death and taxes--impossible to talk about it any calm or reasonable fashion because it's an inherently emotional thing. Pushing through a huge new model--so huge that no given individual seems to be conversant with it in its entirety--seems like a really bad idea to me, just on the basis of sheer logic. Even smaller things that seem...
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- Kathy Fitch
The problem is, as Kathy points out, the government is already massively involved with health care. With Titles XVIII and XIX and with EMTALA, that pretty much sets the stage for everyone else. And no one is seriously considering abolishing Medicare, Medicaid, or anti-patient dumping laws. Even many hard-core anti-reformists like Medicare a lot, so where does that leave us?
- Victor Ganata
Holden, I will keep an inflatable dinghy handy and watch for animals wandering by in pairs, just in case.
- Kathy Fitch
Relatively speaking, a public option is nowhere near as radical as Title XVIII and Title XIX were at the time. Single-payer, now that would be pretty radical. The thing is, I'm getting the sense that the most vociferous and most violent opposition is coming from people who have the least sense of how all the pieces fit together, egged on not-so-surreptitiously by the people who have the most to lose should reform happen, and who don't give a crap about the average American.
- Victor Ganata
Yup--and on the flip side, wholesale embrace seems to flow mostly from a "this should be better, dammit" space, which is understandable, but not so useful. It matters what happens here, but it's just so darn big. Just go look at all the active bills concerning XVIII and XIX at any given time! Mind boggling! When things are that huge, people are going to default to emotion, no matter which side they might champion. Fear is a powerful thing.
- Kathy Fitch
And we're just talking about how we pay. Quality is a whole separate issue.
- Kathy Fitch
Ok, I've read all the comments and I definitely don't have the insight of everyone else, especially the specifics of what the national health care plan look like at this point. But I do have a couple things I want to mention. 1) It would not be like Canada's system, it would be more like France (mixed public and private) 2) I live in MA, and next year I'm off my mom's insurance (I'm...
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- Heather
Cry me a river, srsly
- LANjackal
"I expect to profit when I provide a product or service. Seems like most of us do." ... like the police, Kathy? Or is it possible that certain areas of life are not well served by a market paradigm?
- Andrew C
Yes, precisely like the police, who get paid for their work--who profit from it, as should all who work for a living. Is it possible to work for no pay? But of course, I do it all of the time. I call it volunteering or doing pro bono work, and I think it's important. I love psychic income. Unfortunately, no one lets me write psychic checks to cover the bills.
- Kathy Fitch
Just because a system is non-profit doesn't mean the people who work there don't get paid.
- Andrew C
Yes, I believe I pointed that out above. Not for profit enterprises must actually generate a profit in order to meet payroll, pay vendors, build, secure loans, etc. "Profit" is not the enemy, and shouldn't be conflated with "profiteering," which is a whole different ball of wax.
- Kathy Fitch
It seems to me the health insurance system of the US has tremendous perverse incentives which are basically inevitable results of trying to provide it via a open market. Healthy people willing to gamble may find it advantageous to not get insured, and insurers have huge incentives to dump sick people - both those who have individual plans and those who have small enough employers that the insurers can and will dump the entire group plan.
- Andrew C
And non-profits don't need to make a _profit_, they just need to cover costs.
- Andrew C
Ah, it's splitting hairs, Andrew. They need to make money. A hospital's costs include things like new machinery. To cover that cost, they have to make money--there has to be some gain after all current costs are covered. They roll that profit back into the organization, and then they might be able to afford, say, a decent MRI machine. In any case, not all hospitals are not-for-profit ventures. There are some great investor owned hospitals in the world.
- Kathy Fitch
I'm relatively fine with for-profit hospitals. I am mostly unconvinced that for-profit health insurance is workable.
- Andrew C
Seems like we're about to get a chance to compare, doesn't it? I can't pretend to know what will happen. It's going to be an interesting ride. There have been some actual studies that correlate lower quality of care (fewer qualified staff, higher rates of errors) with free market forces in healthcare. If the concern is constantly the survival of the institution, then perhaps the health...
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- Kathy Fitch
The reason pubicly funded institutions and most health care delivery institutions (like where I work) struggle is that there is a huge number of people who aren't insured. This drives costs up for everyone as we just try to break even and what the reform really is trying to address. We're talking about adding about $100 billion a year to a >$1 trillion dollar a year industry. This is...
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- Carey Lumeng
While I am not opposed to health care reform, I am opposed to having the government run health care. We'll end up with mediocrity, just like our government run education system!
- Darren
None of the proposals currently on the table intend to implement a government-run health care system. This is a strawman that we really need to stop bringing up if we intend to have fruitful discussions about what direction we need to go.
- Victor Ganata
Healthcare isn't perfect, there is many things that can be done to help, however, having the government take it over is the worst thing that can happen. The good thing is most Americans are waking up to Obama and his nonsense, hence his poll numbers dropping. I would also bet that most who still support him, have not read any of the bill. The truth is, the government does not run...
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- Spencer
The statement that rings truest to me is that profit is ok but profiteering isn't. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
The revenue that you have to reinvest in your infrastructure isn't usually referred to as profit, though, is it? And neither are wages paid in fair compensation for labor provided. I realize it's semantics, but I think it would be pretty evil if fire fighters and police actually derived profit from their work, although I'm all for them receiving fair compensation for the difficult and dangerous work they do protecting us.
- Victor Ganata
CapEx is a sound investment usually and not one that I would refer to as profit. I would actually like for first responders to get a little extra compensation much as I would for teachers as these are industries where going the extra mile should in my opinion be rewarded. I just become enraged at "for-profit" healthcare companies as they do derive their profits not only from the argument of economies of scales and vertical domination of the market va their "in-house" pharmacies. What a racket?
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I'm in my 20s, employed, I've got health insurance from my employer, and I haven't been to a hospital since I was young (and only once then). However, even I am wary of the pain that I will have to go through if I lose my job; I'm sure COBRA would be too costly. Besides, it wouldn't matter even if I did find a new job (not easy to do right now), thanks to pre-existing condition rules...
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- A. Karl Kornel
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No, I'm actually looking forward to having a 23-year-old high school graduate in Washington override my doctor's decision on what medication I need.
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help." -- Ronald Reagan
- Don Smith
Everyone misses the key --- the what's-mine-is-mine crowd who "want gummint off their backs" (but i bet they like the interstate highway system, a standing army, state colleges, subsidized cotton, regulated utilities) and the humanists (who believe people all deserve a basic right to food, health, shelter, safety). And the key is this: fee for services. This is the single most important...
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- Thom Kennon
I am not for "Obamacare." I am for having a discussion on things that need changing and making those changes. I don't care how it's done, but these things need doing. 1) Stop dinging people for pre-existing conditions 2) Stop over-charging for prescription drugs 3)Stop giving care that isn't effective or necessary (restless leg syndrome, overactive bladder, etc. We've gotten to the...
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- Francine Hardaway
Francine, yes, everything that takes away from worker productivity has been labeled a condition. The question is, who gets to decide what is effective treatment? Researchers? Clinicians? Insurance companies? Government officials? I do agree that incentives should be geared towards outcomes with objective measures rather than volume of procedures performed but the problem is that the...
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- Victor Ganata
I'm thinking of profit in more basic terms--the amount of money left after expenses have been subtracted from income. It seems natural to me that folks object when the portion that might actually be left, there, is quickly sucked up by the government, which isn't exactly renowned for efficiency and ethics.
- Kathy Fitch
I'm not making an argument here, but really just posing a series of philosophical questions: *Do* people have a basic right to healthcare? If so, where do we draw the line? A basic right to immunizations, to health education, to emergency care, to open-heart surgery, to hip replacement, to orthodontia, to treatment for acne or eczema? The difficulty of drawing those lines is one source...
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- Kathy Fitch
I think people have a basic right to health care, both on ideological and pragmatic grounds. The ideology is down to what's right and wrong; the pragmatic argument is that society is not well served by having the poor suffer from treatable problems. I can see drawing the line for trivial and cheaply solved problems like usual teenage acne, paper cuts, etc. I can also see drawing a line for extraordinary costs. Every insurer, whether nationally run or private, for-profit or not, draws such lines.
- Andrew C
Offering carrots and sticks for healthy lifestyles can only go so far. Who knew tobacco was carcinogenic back in the 1940s? Or asbestos? I think the idea that people willingly lead unhealthy lifestyles _because they plan to fall back on health insurance_ is ludicrous; everyone prefers to live a healthy life rather than get by with massive surgeries or other catastrophic interventions.
- Andrew C
When people are in need of new organs, the health care system already does judge them on behaviors, like not allowing alcoholics to get new livers. But I think preventative medicine, at a basic level like annual check ups, screenings for high risk patients, vaccines, visits with a nutritionist, that kind of stuff, is totally reasonable to offer everyone. I mean before I got back on my...
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- Heather
Very true, Heather. Already, we must make these calls, and already we aren't so hot at it. If we have a right to healthcare, why shouldn't we have the right to a new kidney or lung or heart, even if our lifestyles in some measure caused those organs to fail? The junk food junkie might be the best teacher or counselor in the community, the drinker might be on point of composing the most...
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- Kathy Fitch
Teenage acne, by the way, is not at all trivial to the ones who suffer from it, and it's hugely expensive to treat. Check the prices on something like Doryx, for instance. Might seem like a purely cosmetic issue, but of course it has social implications, and mental health implications, as well. http://dermnetnz.org/acne... A friend of mine always used to say that the definition of "minor" surgery is "surgery on someone else." Just so, it seems, with many health afflictions.
- Kathy Fitch
To those of you concerned about a single-payer option and the elimination of Employer Insurance, the President clarifys those concerns in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Sharon McPherson
LOL ... That Oburkel! Such a kidder!!
- Don Smith
Of course you're right Erin. I have Parkinson's Disease and Fibromyalgia that is going untreated because the Government Run Medicare system says my husband's $500 per wk pay check puts us over the threshold to receive assistance, although our monthly expenses amount to $2400. And my young grandchildren are desperately in need of Dental Care because the State Run Florida KidCare program...
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- Sharon McPherson
Sharon, the problem is that the opposition isn't addressing any of the issues you raise. They are lying about "death panels". Let's address the real issues, please.
- Tom Talbott, Jr
The US is the only country in Western World that doesn't have some sort of nationalized system (and it is arguably one of the worst). I am confused at anyone who thinks that a corporation is going to operate in the best interest of the customer. It operates in the best interest of the share holders - it must. It is time to consider some government control, so people don't have to pay +$500 for "mostly covered".
- Jeff Waite
Wow. Now *that's* bicycle parking. This is in Amsterdam. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
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I've always have a hard time finding my bike back – http://bit.ly/16HbGQ
- Remo
Thanks for the pic, Remo. Heh, I imagine that *could* be a problem... Probably have to try to solve it the same way you solve the luggage in the airport problem: put something on the bike to make it really stand out. Like a little colorful flag or something....
- Kamilah Gill
Failure of critical thinking: health care reform criticized as costing $1 trillion over 10 yrs. Meanwhile Iraq/Afghanistan wars over 100B/yr
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Critical thinking is still fine, it's simply partisan thinking aided by critical thinking.
- Todd Hoff
My individual health insurance policy just went up last month from $448 a month to $660 (7,000 a year before they pay a singel $) and it is up almost 100% in the last few years. I own my own business, am responsible and in good shape and the "free market" has failed me. In my State we can't join a pool to buy insurance so the companies are able to charge us the most. I am all for the free market but this is crushing me
- sherry reynolds
Someone I know had her COBRA lapse because she checked the "I want it box" but didn't fill out the form. She has a preexisting condition and now simply can not get health coverage at all. That this now simply a win at all costs election issue is an abomination.
- Todd Hoff
Howard Dean (former Gov and Doc) has a new book out Howard Dean's Prescription for Real Health Care Reform that I am going to read this weekend. He also has a great tongue in cheeck interview with Esquire at http://www.esquire.com/the-sid....
- sherry reynolds
Nice sherry, thanks. "One thing I've never seen before is when you say, "Much is made of the 47 million without insurance, but nothing of the 25 million who have insurance but don't go and see the doctor." I've got one of those high-deductible catastrophic plans myself, so I don't go to the doctor unless I'm bleeding. Why have I never seen this argument before?"
- Todd Hoff
Fujifilm launches world's first 3D imaging system - http://www.dpreview.com/news...
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Cool
- Kevin J Hatton
Very cool product. Would have been nice if they were clearer about what the product actually is on the home page - had to dig thru to the products page to know that it was a solvent you apply to a surface. Wasn't sure if the product was a solvent/coating or if it was in the marker. I would buy this.
- Kamath (नमः)
This product has been around for awhile, right? I could have sworn I've seen this stuff in non-web media.
- Zach Landes
Zach, yeah I'm sure but very cool! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Oh, definitely Kol. If I were building one of those trendy silicon valley offices (kinda like the one in the photo...)I'd totally have to add this.
- Zach Landes
Or if I were a parent of a 3 year old. My sis & her husband just bought a house. They could so use this given my niece's affinity for crayons.
- Kamath (नमः)
the walls in the study rooms of our new library are like this.
- Marie is organized.
nice! One of the walls of our conference room is coated with a material that makes it a whiteboard as well. Very handy
- Tamara
It's uncomfortable while drawing in the conner
- Tony
does it smell good? the paint.
- Carolyn Chan
When I'm next due for a paint job around the house, I will definitely look at getting this in the office.
- Diego Barros
I really want this for my office!
- Michele Lorito-Chase
I was looking at this just yesterday for the room we'll be homeschooling in. I'm excited to try it.
- Heather Solos
Ironically, I just finished making a homemade white board with clear acrylic and some hardboard and some woodworking. If only I had know, I could saved a lot of work....
- Jim
This is so cool. I was actually talking with someone yesterday about having a room with whiteboard in my house. So this was very useful. THanks!
- *Tiffany Diamond*
*drools*
- Colby
just painted my dd's room with chalkboard paint. we're a little behind.
- kelly
GOTTA get me some for my office!! link to order? Zee U mightAs Well make a few on this! *giggle*
- Arleen Anderson
@Arleen If i had known there'd be this big a response.. :P
- Zee.
I wonder what happens if you paint this stuff on top of anti-vandal paint?
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
Want!
- Rick Cogley
I want one!
- natalia ventre
Just wait til the late 2010s, when nanotechnologically-based paints appear. You will be able to paint computer screens onto any surface in your home.
- J. D. Ebberly
I wonder how it compares with this one, which is 8x cheaper http://www.ronshomeandhardware.com/Product...
- David Lynch
GOOD.is | HMO Donations - http://awesome.good.is/transpa...
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http://www.lazyfeed.com - code: lazylouis
- Louis Gray
After you guys get this for a while, I'll send to "that other network".
- Louis Gray
Thanks!
- James Hull
DONE!
- Jenna Bilotta
Awesome, thanks. Got in..
- Micah Jefferson
Thanks so much!
- Gus Cuddy
Thanks, I'm in.
- William Spaetzel
Thanks, Louis, just joined. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks a lot Louis!
- Sajida H Khan
Done
- Steve Lowe
Thanks dude. Good look, and impeccable timing. It's like you knew I was opening my browser at that moment (Saw it at 0 seconds ago! :))
- Mike Kogelman
Thanks. Done :-)
- catepol
After that lazy presentation, I'm not sure if I want to be THAT lazy :)
- Bwana ☠
Thanks, Louis ... got in easily ... nice share. kj
- Karen Jackie
Hmm, cannot seem to connect my Twitter account, says "error". :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
So what is it?
- Rochelle
this product is interesting.. but sort of confusing and kind of limited. hmm, I'll give it some more time. (i also couldn't connect my twitter account.)
- Jenna Bilotta
Rochelle, it's real-time blog search by topic, not by author or source.
- Louis Gray
Just signed up for it. Figuring it out as I go. This looks interesting.
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
connected twitter, delicious and my google reader shared items blog...... now...time to be lazy
- Bwana ☠
Just refreshed the page and it seems to have worked.
- Kol Tregaskes
Sure. :)
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Thanks :)
- Jemm
In - thanks Louis :-)
- Andy Bold
Thanks! :-)
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Thanks Louis!
- Patrick Jordan
thanks Louis ! Trying this right now
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
Thanks! :-)
- Bo Stern
thanks! this is a fun site - they make it so easy to get started.
- Laura Norvig
thanks :)
- امیرعباس
Just signed up...thanks Louis
- jamar78
Thanks Louis!
- ronin
Yep count me in!
- Kevin J Hatton
I'd like an invite!
- Jill O'Neill
Jill - code is lazylouis. URL is http://www.lazyfeed.com
- Louis Gray
It keeps telling me that's an invalid code
- Jill O'Neill
"This promotional code has expired. However, we will let you know through this email when we open as public. Thank you for your interest!" =(
- David Cook
expired..too late FAIL
- George Dearing
Dang. Sorry Jill, George and David. That's why I put it on FriendFeed 40 minutes before Twitter. Hmmm...
- Louis Gray
Jesus Louis why not 300 or 400? They'll already gone.
- Matt Ruiz
Unfortunately I don't keep a friendfeed window open at work, and I missed it.
- DGentry
101??? For me??? Just kidding when can we expect more to be available?
- Cody Heitschmidt
You gotta be kidding! I was late for techcrunch's and yours Louis. Is it really worth a hype around it?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
That's the second time today I missed it. I'm watching Arrington and Robert discuss friendfeed live right now. They're talking about the mob issue on friendfeed. This should be interesting.
- Michael Fidler
dang it! too slow.
- AJ Kohn
said expired :(
- Bahriye
i'm going to setup a real-time search for Lazyfeed because every time I try a code it's expired
- Wayne Sutton
mmmmmm Well it is Lazy alright...........
- Kevin J Hatton
:(
- Johannan Edelman
oops. expired.
- Mitchell Tsai
What is lazyfeed?
- Morton Fox
I'm working on getting more. :)
- Louis Gray
while we wait, tell us what is it that everyone's clamoring for...
- BEX
MORE! Like ~1000, so I will be able to make it this time :D Thanks Louis!
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
i am waiting
- Ali Demirci
:( the code has expires, please give me one
- Francisco Espinoza
from BuddyFeed
Im waiting :S
- Francisco Espinoza
standing by. thanks for trying to round some more up.
- metalerik
What is lazyfeed all about Louis?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH -- it is real-time powered blog search based on keywords, not sources. You want it.
- Louis Gray
BEX, LPH, I've only played with it a little. By adding some of your own feeds of your choice (I added Twitter and delicious) it looks at your tags and hashtags and shows you related content. You can also add any tags representing any topic you might be interested in. It's a little hard to explain beyond that, but it has a very simple interface that encourages serendipitous discovery of content on specific topics. I like it!
- Laura Norvig
Is FriendFeed supported?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH, FriendFeed is not a blog that is discovered by LazyFeed.
- Louis Gray
Louis - can the RSS feed of FF though be used?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
well, there's a generic "add a blog" where you can put any URL you want and I tried adding my friendfeed URL but I'm not sure if it's working. [EDIT: No, I'm pretty sure that doesn't work.]
- Laura Norvig
Thank you for trying Laura!
- LPH™ and his dog P™
it's all about tags. So, for instance, it doesn't bring in all my tweets, only those that I used a hashtag in. And the main "point" of bringing that in is to surface the fact that I might be interested in that tag and might want to see other items from all across lazyfeed with that same tag.
- Laura Norvig
I tried it out. I have a more universal stuff finder thanks to zemanta and google search. It even comes up with contextual advertising. It's getting packaged into something distributable since Google and Twitter aren't necessarily interested in working together
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
out of invites :( want to hook a friendfeeder up? ;)
- Tyler Gillies
The more I use this, I'm finding that it seems to be scraping a number of, well - 'questionable' sources for content. I'm hoping that they'll allow users to remove sources, vote things down, etc. in some fashion as things develop. It's a nice concept, but it definitely needs some serious refinement.
- Dan Dashnaw
Do you think it is scraping the entire blogosphere? Or only blogs added by users? I can't tell.
- Laura Norvig
I snooze, I lose.
- Mark Krynsky
Bummer, I missed out.
- Mark Evans
If you still have one I'll take one. That's what I get for working late. :)
- James Stratford
late to the party, but would love an invite on next wave.
- lew
All expired. let me know when more are available.
- Amani
I'd like an invite :)
- Kaan Şengül
quiero!!! (I want in spanish :-)
- polycarpo
i missed :(
- Arpit Kumar
We all knew the Republican Party was in a state of collapse, but we didn't realize just how severe the collapse is.
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Times are changing and as soon as they adapt they will again become a force.
- Justice of the Piece
Conventional Logic vs. Religious Logic --just sayin'
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Definitely true.
- Trish R
hahahhahahah Reminds me of FF the past few weeks. Oops, did I say that out loud? :P
- Mona Nomura
HAHAHAAH!!!!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Brilliant, Mona! Thanks for sharing!
- Matt Harwood
Oooh, great! :) Can I try??
- Jemm
Matt: Anytime. :) @Joni: TRY WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY?! HUH HUH HUH?!? ;)
- Mona Nomura
I think I've met that guy in the bottom pic.
- Mark Wilson
Ahhhahah. Mona you always make my day better
- Kyle Lacy
@Mona: Sharing something.. related ;)
- Jemm
Kyle: Stop trying to butter me up. What do you want? ;) @Joni: ;)
- Mona Nomura
oh you will know Mona, you will know
- Kyle Lacy
i can has bacon!
- imabonehead
@Mark, I think his wife is running for VP...
- Jeff P. Henderson
perfect
- Arash
"Amen."
- l0ckergn0me
I clearly need to get to bed because I saw this at the top of the page and thought, "Wait. It's Sunday already? Where did the week go?" ooph.
- ♥patricia♥
Conventional logic holds that people don't carry baseballs around with them. Conventionally, would you think a person with pockets full of baseballs as "normal"? Do you carry everything you own in case you have to logically prove to someone that you own it in the event that some conventional debate arises?
- Darian Rawson
Omg I found it. Derrick, one more! :)
- Mona Nomura
Ha! Yeah, a little bit.
- Derrick
Hahahahaha
- Kamath (नमः)
Are you familiar with "Russell's Teapot?" : "If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion...
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- Christopher A Carr
I've never known a christian to react like that when someone asks to prove Gods existence. If someone is sincerly asking the question we'll usually talk about why we believe. If someone is being hostile I'll walk away.
- ChiliMac
ChiliMac, on a serious note, it's really dependent on the parties conversing. I've openly had many discussions on religion. It's also helpful to comprehend the other party's(ies') views and backgrounds, to have amicable discussions. :)
- Mona Nomura
Mona: You are absolutely right, it does depend on the parties. I believe most people still know how to and are polite and respectful of one another. I was having this conversation with a friend from my church the other night. His roommate had criticized him for reading books by Dawkins. We disagreed with him. We should understand those who have different opinions then ours and be respectful to one another.
- ChiliMac
I love it. Did you draw this, Mona?
- Jess Lee
Oh, no way. lol!
- Mona Nomura
"There's no such thing as a baseball. There's NO SUCH THING AS A BASEBALL." ;)
- Tyson Key
like again
- Arash
could also be titled "conventional logic vs evolutionist logic" or "conventional logic vs global warming logic". i see more unfounded dogma from these two groups than any other.
- Brooks Bayne
So true.
- Ethan
Yeah, Brooks... or "conventional logic vs. round Earth logic," or "conventional logic vs. heliocentric solar system logic." I'm sick of dogmatic round-Earth liberals! If the Earth is so round, why don't Australians fall into space? Eh? Answer that secular libs!
- Christopher A Carr
Definitely something Richard Dawkins would approve of! :) And @ChristopherCarr - the Celestial Teapot was the first thing I thought of when I saw this.
- jack
hahahah that is hilarious
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Futuristic Movie Timeline
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Dune wins
- Josh Haley
Of course it does.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Idiocracy was 5 years ahead of Logan's Run and light-years ahead of American audiences.
- Christopher Harley
where is 1984?
- Bora Zivkovic
Well... Total Recall should be offset by about another 80 years.
- Torp
....and that's why Dune rocks
- Bwana ☠
boy i wish we had space travel on par with 2001! btw always kind of thought Dune took place in an entirely different universe
- Mike Chelen
What, you can't see Geidi Prime with your telescope? Pfffft! ;)
- Josh Haley
sure, but the resolution is too low to detect the wobble of 36 Ophiuchi :P
- Mike Chelen
Damn you for making me look something up! ha ha ha! You win, Mike.
- Josh Haley
wouldn't The Time Machine beat all of them?
- Alejandro
*scratches his head* Good point, Alejandro.
- Josh Haley
never seen dune
- Alfredo
Josh: it's okay, that didn't come off the top of my head either! is it less impressive to know that however many thousands of years in the future dune takes place, we are only inhabiting planets mere dozens of light years away? :D
- Mike Chelen
Alejandro: to fit 20 million years on the chart, they would have to change the scale a bit ;)
- Mike Chelen
I need to add a bunch of these to my Netflix queue!
- Drew
Exxon's Brazen Greenwashing, on the Front Page of The New York Times - http://www.fastcompany.com/blog...
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"Yesterday, on the bottom of it's front page, The New York Times ran the ad you see above, from ExxonMobil, which touts the idea that car emissions have fallen by 95% since 1970. Which sounds great! There's nothing at all to worry about with global warming! We're already doing such an amazing job! Not exactly, says noted climate scientist and physicist Joseph Romm. While it's clear that various tailpipe emissions such as ozone have fallen thanks in large part to catalytic converters, carbon emissions have not. And even though our cars get better gas mileage now than in 1970, our country has vastly more cars and drives them further thanks to sprawl. As a result, our carbon emissions have actually accelerated. (Atmospheric carbon was, in fact, just found to be at its highest point in 2 million years, and the government just released a sobering climate report that unpacks some of the best climate science currently available.)"
- Cee Bee
from Bookmarklet
Not specifying the emissions is kind of sneaky.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
yeah, it's deceptive at best
- Cee Bee
Obama Swats Fly during CNBC Interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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That cost him the Jain vote, right there.
- Brooks Bishop
LOL! +1 to Brooks!
- MikeAmundsen
Lol
- Geoff Schultz
On our way to #140conf via UA 56 with more HD equipment than CNN owned in 1980. @jeffpulver here we come!
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I wish I was there :-)
- Alex M.
Why Facebook is not as interesting as Twitter for businesses:
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I tried to add this photo to the Toyota Prius page. I couldn't. I tried to make a connection. It said "too many connections." (more, keep reading...)
- Robert Scoble
And people wonder why Twitter is more interesting to businesses? Other than fail whales, it's a lot easier to just say "I love my Toyota Prius" there and add my two cents onto a brand. On Facebook? It's a pain in the ass and then everything looks very commercial.
- Robert Scoble
By the way, that's my new 2010 Toyota Prius sitting in front of Facebook's new headquarters.
- Robert Scoble
Congratulations on the new Prius :)
- A. Prem Kumar
Why not just add "I love my Toyota Prius" to that Page's wall, or to your own Wall?
- Jesse Stay
Pretty cool...congrats !!!
- Nir Ben Yona
I think it holeds the key in its simplicity and scalability
- Kuldeep Kapade
Looks nice Robert. Congratulations!
- Parth Awasthi
In an interview that will be aired on June 11 as part of http://www.building43.com Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook's CEO, tells me that he's trying to guide Facebook into letting people have conversations about their favorite businesses. So far I have found it wanting.
- Robert Scoble
I had a similar conversation in a comment thread on someone's status in Facebook tonight. I would like to it, but I don't think you could see it.
- Jackson Miller
Like the white. But man, it looks just like a Civic.
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: except it gets better gas mileage than the Civic.
- Robert Scoble
Brett: and it has cooler geek toys inside.
- Robert Scoble
it's pretty obvious... facebook has to beg for businesses to get involved... twitter couldn't stop the floodgates of businesses signing up if they wanted to
- Travis Kalanick
Yes, and I think yours is better looking than the new Civic or Insight.
- Brett Nordquist
Jesse: that's the thing. I can't add anything to that page's wall for some reason. Let me try again and see if I'm just messing it up.
- Robert Scoble
Robert Facebook does have server issues fairly regularly. They're a lot more intermittent compared to Twitter's though. I've found Facebook to be a bit slow at times, too.
- Jesse Stay
Yeah, still says "Sorry, you cannot create any more connections." Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
Fail
- Jesse Stay
But the good news is I see you got the scobleizer vanity URL. I can't even get one of those.
- Jesse Stay
There's also not as good a search platform to find when people post statuses. Even though twitter search isn't reliable it's better than Facebook's.
- Aaron Hood
from BuddyFeed
BTW, I just posted something and it came up. (I was the first fan post oddly - another fail, this one on the part of Toyota)
- Jesse Stay
I put some more photos of my Prius up on my Facebook page here: http://www.facebook.com/album...
- Robert Scoble
Robert: your discussion just made me think maybe we should have a FriendFeed "Photos" section on our private page, so we could store groups of images exactly like in Facebook.
- Nir Ben Yona
I really really want to use Facebook for business - but its so horrible!! I just wanted to create a page with a few apps and I really struggled. They have horrible UI and the concepts make no sense.
- Anthony Feint
Love the new Prius, are you worried that White will show all of the dirt as you dart so quickly from place-to-place?
- Joan Lockwood
Joan: the white isn't quite white, it has a sparkle to it, but I'm not too worried about it showing dirt. I had a black car before and it showed EVERYTHING. Sanat: I told Zuckerberg today that I think Google is his biggest competition. He didn't argue and praised Wave.
- Robert Scoble
Holy cow! Do you have to pull those poor souls (Facebook and Twitter) just to show off you Prius?? I think you should. LOL. Scoble style FTW!
- Toni @ NavinoT
Twitter may be more interesting for businesses but facebook is more interesting as a viable business. Twitter has zero ad income that I can see, whereas facebook does earn some profit, just received $200 million in cash, and Scoble's Prius has.a new parking spot.
- Garin Kilpatrick
is this the new version of the Prius? I think the one they sell in Finland is still the old model...this looks better.
- Davide D'Incau
"Why Facebook is not as interesting as the new Prius" - new title. :-D Seriously, if Facebook wants users to have convos about busines, It'll be a tough time morphing that way. Users that want that already have services (Twitter, for one) to do this...they might have to interlink the service capabilities, not unlike FF. Once they do that, I think they'd have to add a value to that capability to make it worth people's while to use it. Otherwise, it'll remain the poke-ridden high-school/college student world.
- Adam Pilbeam
I just ran into something somewhat related this morning about the "closedness" of facebook. I couldn't share my fiance's pictures of our new puppies without manually copying them one by one and posting them on friendfeed.
- Mark Essel
I cannot wait to get an iPhone so that I can post photos all the time! I'm waiting until the next version comes out in July. At that time, I'll need to know the best ap for posting photos...would like to not have a new one and just use my Flickr.
- Hummie
Hummie, just take a photo on the iPhone and mail it to share@friendfeed.com from your registered email address... Works like a charm :)
- Ross Miller
Ross, when I do that, where does it get hosted? I would want to delete it later. I am going to hold out and get the new iPhone video...I hope...hope it doesn't cost too much...any ideas on cost?
- Hummie
So when I get this :"Sorry, you cannot create any more connections." it's a bug or it's because I can't be a fan of more than 15 pages?
- Kaysha
Boy discovers microbe that eats plastic | MNN - Mother Nature Network - http://www.mnn.com/technol...
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Why the hell should I feel sorry, says girl soldier who abused Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison | Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
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"With a new book to peddle and her appeal against the conviction due to be heard next month, one might have expected the 26-year-old England to express some remorse. Following Barack Obama's release of CIA torture files which lend credence to her claim that the ritual humiliation of prisoners was a White House sanctioned tactic during the Bush regime, she even consulted her local senator about petitioning for a Presidential pardon But 'sorry', it becomes clear, is not in Lynndie England's vocabulary. When we speak, three things strike me: her breathtaking lack of contrition; her unsuitability to have been a serving soldier and her utter indifference towards the horrifically abused prisoners at Abu Ghraib, 90 per cent of whom were later released without charge."
- William Harryman
from Bookmarklet
she's the clearest example of a sociopath I have seen in some time - I guess the Army as no desire to weed these freaks out
- William Harryman
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