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How to send group emails from your iPhone | RED66 - http://red66.com/2009...
Joshua Schnell, Ron Thompson, Foxarts and 25 other people liked this
Great tip!
- Vince DeGeorge
Super. Great.
- Zachary TG
Glad you peeps liked this tip. It's certainly changed the way I use my iPhone now. Necessity is definitely the mother of invention. ;-)
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
from iPhone
"you peeps" ? ... com on now .. im kidding .. us The People
- Petr Buben
from IM
@Petr LOL! I'll be more formal next time, ha ha!
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
from iPhone
I've been using this for a few days now and it's working quite well. Sometimes, the email addresses appear a beat funky to the recipients, but so far everybody's been getting their emails. How's it been for you?
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
does the Groups app do this? and if not, why?
- Clint McManaman
from BuddyFeed
I haven't tried the Groups app, though it's been mentioned a few times. I'll check it out now to see exactly how they deal with this issue. One thing, though, my solution is free ;-)
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
Checked out Groups and it can't do photos yet. The Camera application allows you to email up to 3 photos per message - however you can't interface the Camera app with the Groups app. There's another app called MultiPhoto that allows you to send multiple photos but not to multiple recipients.
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
UPDATED: Now works with most email services and eliminates the Invalid Address dialog box.
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
Yes.
Iván Abrego, Ertuğrul Erkan, Brian Johns and 124 other people liked this
Logically Awesome.
- Andy Bakun
Fascinating.
- Joe Silence
Precise
- mikepk
I am, and forever shall be, a bringer of beats.
- Josh Haley
I want this on a poster.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I want that poster tattooed on my chest.
- Josh Haley
I want a picture of you with that tattoo turned into a sticker that I will put on my lunchbox.
- Andy Bakun
I want that sandwich.
- Josh Haley
I want a tattoo of Andy's lunchbox with the sticker of your tattoo of the poster on it.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Vulcan katra on rye.
- Joe Silence
"I have been and always shall be your sandwich."
- Joe Silence
Duh.
- Steven Perez
It all started with the episode, 'A Piece of the Action' http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/memorya...
- Louis Trapani
NICE!!
- Harold Cabezas
I never, ever saw Spock in a short sleeve uniform shirt!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Okay, I normally hate this kind of crap but this one's amusing. I also hate it when people give backhanded compliments like this.
- Akiva Moskovitz
LOL....Pure energy....
- Larry Lewis
Where it's at? I got two turntables and a phaser on stuuuuun.
- Josh Haley
"I got two turntables and a vulcan death grip"
- chrisofspades
Spockmaster flash
- chrisofspades
Illogical. But fun.
- dannysullivan
Oh my god, yes.
- Christina Kuhn
That's what she said.
- Josh Haley
Wow, that's an awesome pic
- Chieze Okoye
Damn that's.......nope all I can say is DAMN :)
- Jeunelle Foster
I want this on a T-Shirt! But just him and the dj tables, no lady, no background. :D ♥
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
I want a tattoo of that t-shirt...
- Josh Haley
doing the bump x spock, ;)
- chaz2b
Facebook news feed implemented in Javascript: http://www.streamdiff.com/
Joe, Nicholas James, Andres Montano and 66 other people liked this
It's a pretty cool fb app.
- Paul Buchheit
reminds me about friendfeed :)
- Chris Hofmann
Wow. I do get that immediate comfortable feeling with it. It's FF minus share and hide plus the miniavatar hack http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah Wittman
Very cool. And so much snappier. Lovin' it already. And Paul, I'm assuming you're going to try to move Facebook in that direction.
- Johan Bakken
I love it. Now if only we could use it in Facebook.
- Faraz Mullick
Good stuff! I've been using Facebook Lite to get straight to the content I care about without having to sift through gobs of application notifications, but this looks even better.
- Roger
Don't see the added value yet, but you can tell their working with Friendfeed is starting to pay off.
- Vincent van Wylick
Excellent! A bit of real-time here, a bit of hiding there and now we have the best Facebook client. Congrats!
- Andrés David Aparicio
The implementation of read state in kind of confusing. I look forward to more iteration in this space... long overdue.
- Michael Leggett
awesome
- andy brudtkuhl
Paul: does the BSD-CC license apply to code files in the dev URL?
- Andrés David Aparicio
how come that it does not update in realtime ? ah, okay,it's not ff...
- Lode Nachtergaele
I'd like it more if I could hide individual posts on a one by one basis like I can on FriendFeed.
- Thomas Hawk
It also seems like it only went three pages back for me. Would be better to page indefinitely.
- Thomas Hawk
To clarify, this isn't something that I or anyone else from FriendFeed created -- it's just a cool app. I don't know anything about the licensing terms.
- Paul Buchheit
Our wishful thinking got the best of us, it seems :)
- Andrés David Aparicio
I wonder who is behind it, I'll repeat my question in the Fan Page then...
- Andrés David Aparicio
it may not be something that FF created, but it's something along the lines of what the FF team ought to consider creating -- maybe as a place to test and experiment with engagement before considering features for broader roll out at Facebook. Creating a FF version of Facebook's news feed, complete with hide functionality, thread bumping, etc. would seem like a far more interesting way to interact with Facebook.
- Thomas Hawk
Paul, thanks for sharing it. Andrés, it is indeed BSD-CC licensed and the code is hosted on GitHub: http://github.com/nshah....
- daaku
Excellent! Thanks, Daaku.
- Andrés David Aparicio
nice! I never want to goto facebook.com again!
- Jay
Amazing interactive 360-degree panoramic view of the entire night sky | Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...
Jason A. Samfield, Christian Hollingsworth, Lumino_GmbH and 99 other people liked this
"A new magnificent 800-million-pixel panorama of the entire sky has been unveiled online today. It was stitched together from 1,200 photos by astronomers at the European Southern Observatory from viewing sites in Chile."
- Benjamin Golub
from Bookmarklet
wow!
- Chris Myles
Oh wow. Totally resharing this, thx!
- Ayşe E.
You're not going to see anything like this in the Northern Hemisphere. This is only the night sky for those south of the equator. But it is cool.
- Nina Jansen
WOW!
- Susan Beebe
LOVE it!!
- Roshan Ramachandran
hmmm didn't supply a link in the article! Ahh its the Daily Mail, to explain to non-UK-ites, the Daily Mail is the UK equivalent of Fox News.
- Toby Graham
http://www.gigagalaxyzoom.org/ for the full thing.
- Otto
Also: High res download here: http://videos.spacetelescope.org/gigagal... (25MB). All images are better when used as desktop wallpaper.
- Otto
wow thats huge! 800 megapixels...
- Matt Ellsworth
Truly beautiful! Makes earthlings so small!
- Cool Wired
wow it's beautiful.
- Benjo Castillo
The Milky Way panorama
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Niranjan, Anne Bouey, Ksana and 9 other people liked this
Click through to find a very hi-res pic of the Milky Way. Amazing!
- Kol Tregaskes
Nice!
- Michael Fidler
Indeed. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Brizzly, The Best Damn Twitter Client Out There [IMO] - http://techgeist.net/2009...
George Moga, Jaap Willem, Jose Maria Pelaez and 6 other people liked this
agreed. Not sure why seesmic for the web isn't as awesome.
- Sean Oliver
yap, I feel that way too. many useful features, although a bit "moody".
- George Moga
All you need to know is that a young Fairuza Balk is Dorothy and there is a steampunk robot guy thing.
David Peacock, Iván Abrego, Josh Haley and 6 other people liked this
I saw this! Scared the crap out of me when I was a kid
- Shevonne
That was a great OZ spin!
- Uncle CW™
I was so into this movie and the book based on it when they came out. I'd recently read the Oz books when the film came out, so I was all hopped up on Oz lovin'. :P I had a pet chicken I named Billina and I built my own Gump out of popsicle sticks for my Strawberry Shortcake dolls to hang out in. I WAS A WEIRD KID, SHUT UP.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
That ok, I'm a weird adult who can't stand the original "classic" Wizard of Oz movie, but I have a very special place for Return to Oz. I have no idea what it is but the movie brings me joy!
- Joe Pierce
Not liking the Wizard of Oz is just one of the many reasons why I'm weird. I don't think I've ever seen this.
- pea
@Amanda I read the books too. The one with the witch trying to cut off her head scared me the most.
- Shevonne
Fairuza Balk = scary
- Admiral Anika
Anika, this is back when she was merely young and creepy.
- Joe Pierce
I know. She scared me back then. But, I am completely freaked about by people with small teeth. Oh. And connecty ears. Don't ask.
- Admiral Anika
I have a long-standing girlcrush on Fairuza Balk. :) She used to own my fave pagan supply shop as well, which just made her even more crushable.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Yes, I'm back on FriendFeed. Move along now. Nothing to see here. Yet. :-) (hi everyone)
Christian Burns , Edwin, Jack and 54 other people liked this
Hi Mike.
- Kol Tregaskes
Welcome back. Don't make an Ass of yourself. You already do a good job at that. :P
- Matt Ruiz
Welcome back Mike ignore Matt he's just trying to show you how not to act :-P
- Rasmus Lauridsen
welcome back, FF will be more fun!
- Jacque
cool. Matt Ruiz Block
- Steve Gillmor
Nice to have you back
- Christi
Amazing, how people can't take a joke. Steve, lighten up. Michael no hard feelings. Big reader of Tech Crunch.
- Matt Ruiz
Matt -- Comic timing support has not been moved from the beta testing area of FriendFeed so reading with a sense of meter is rather limited without prior knowledge of the author or the dreaded ASCII smiley contingent. You might try [emotive wrappers] or ending with a "j/k" or any of a number of items... this is just text after all. Google Wave even lets you stick our your tongue in a given wavelet via :p :P :p variation and dexterous use of delete through blips. This isn't Google Wave. Oh yeah... :-D
- Jay Cuthrell
cheers.
- motownmutt
Meh. IIRC, the last time you were on FF, your feed was little more than a stream of your RSS feeds with a few comments here and there. I'll extend the welcome mat if you interact and engage more this time around.
- EricaJoy
That doesn't LOOK like you…
- Mistletoe Glen
HI mike welcome back
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Whoo! I feel whole again!
- Akiva Moskovitz
That explains the disturbance I felt in the Force.
- Mark Alves
Hi Mike...
- Roberto Bonini
Welcome back Mike
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Smart move.
- Pete Delucchi
Very. I guess we have Mike's blessing on the Facebook acquisition.
- Roberto Bonini
Are you going to get the /techcrunch back too?!
- Nicholas James
Its already back. :)
- Roberto Bonini
Awesome, glad to see you back on FF Mike! I look forward to your posts, comments and insights. Hopefully your experience will be much better this time around. Welcome back! :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Just in case no one said it yet: #bitchlips
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
You have been eating ... since last time =o)
- Jonas Jonsson
Saad says Friendfeed is dead http://friendfeed.com/chrissa... ... Mike comes back. Way too confusing. Time for sleep. ( +1 Akiva :)
- Charlie Anzman
This place's story never ceases to be interesting.
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
Welcome back! You keeping the lopsided smiley face this time? ;-)
- Amy Flynn
Hi...
- Mitchell Tsai
Looking forward to some positive, informative contributions from you.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
After abandoning the iPhone at a point where it started to be really useful, the most counter-intuitive move from Michael this year.
- Oliver Reichenstein
who is michael arrington? :p
- DC Crowley
@DC Crowley micheal arrington runs techcrunch.com among a million other things ..
- johnpiercy
It's good to see you back! It's a quiet time of the morning on a Sunday so it's expectedly quiet.
- James Stratford
Welcome back
- Alfonso Pace
from iPhone
Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, FriendFeed Talk, Google Reader, All Things Google, Appetite, TheNextWeb Forum
Is Google Reader The Next Friendfeed? - http://www.makeuseof.com/tag...
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Robert Grijalva, ДMIROVSKY☂امیروفسکی, Ola and 31 other people liked this
"With the news that Friendfeed was being sold to Facebook for an undisclosed sum, people have started flocking over to Google Reader, which shows you how fickle the internet can be. One minute they are all in Friendfeed professing their love for it and the next they are moving over to Google Reader just because they may not agree with the future direction of the other site. I have always been more of a Reader person than a Friendfeed person. I don’t know why but I feel more comfortable with Reader. Maybe it’s because it is tightly integrated with Gmail so I can email things to myself, maybe it’s because Reader has a really nice user interface so I can whiz about from post to post. I can’t pin it down but Reader has always been my preferred app. Say what you like about Google but they always instinctively seem to know what is good for the general net user and what works / doesn’t work. As a result, they have built an app which is primed to benefit from any disgruntled Friendfeed users if Facebook messes too much with it."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
I see that more promising than facebook
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from IM
I can't agree with a Reader move until Wave is released, then the combination will be better. For now though Reader is incomplete.
- Andy Ciordia
A GReader GWave combo would be ideal.
- Kol Tregaskes
Just not feeling the love with Google reader.
- cheapsuits
It has been very odd how Google seemed to ignore social networking through the years. Sure they have Orkut, but Google Reader, iGoogle and other Google tools COULD have been much better if they allowed you to add your own connections. Big miss.
- Mike Reynolds
I can't handle the regular Reader interface. Much better via feedly.
- Nils Sandin
Google reader has a long way to go before I become a regular user. The interface is crap and too jam packed with stuff.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
from Android
Since I joined Friendfeed 14 months ago, Google Reader has been my Friendfeed client. Maybe because I'm more a "reader" person than a "comment" or "like" one?
- Iñaki Arrieta Baro
I tried GReader as a FF client for a while but was too clumsy. For me FF is best read in FF, though GReader is a good alternative.
- Kol Tregaskes
Dead serious…If this robot’s speed and accuracy doesn’t scare you just a little. Maybe you’re not human…? http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Rob Schieber, Chris Jackson, Gus and 2 other people liked this
Google Wave Preview Opens to the Public on September 30th - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
siva s, Michel van Helden, John and 173 other people liked this
Yippee!!
- Kol Tregaskes
Can't wait
- Matt Ruiz
At last!
- Usman Bashir
Yeha!
- Fatih Taşkıran
This is so going to work in the classroom! I'm excited.
- Miss Elle
And Google Rocks! :p
- Fırat DEMİREL
Just forewarning - the public will be overwhelmed. It's too much to launch with, IMO - way too many features. (I'm in the developer sandbox preview)
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse Thanx 4 the forewarning I kind of have that feeling when the video presentation presents itself it will take a while to look around its features. I always take my time to test features
- polou/indigo_bow
I expect a steep learning curve. I've barely started learning about GReader, for that matter. Still, I'll be there when Wave launches, for sure.
- Dennis Jernberg
Anil Dash said it best http://dashes.com/anil...
- Mac64
Unless they fix up a lot between now and then people are going to be very, very surprised (not in a good way!). Release early, release often is great, but I'm not sure people's expectations are realistic.
- Nick Lothian
Let's see what it's like then. Thanks for the info.
- Rick Cogley
OMFG
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Great now how long till Google buys Twitter to integrate it into Wave
- Rob Cairns
Rob, there is already a Twitter extension called Twave that integrates Twitter into GWave.
- Kol Tregaskes
Rob: I highly doubt that Google will buy Twitter as it doesn't fits any were with their existing products and with its integration with Wave what's the point of buying it.
- Usman Bashir
Usman - they will find a way to leverage it into Wave or another product.. I really believe Google is going going to make a big splash with Wave and they will have some big surprises in store. Google is not King of the cloud for a reason:)
- Rob Cairns
I've been secretly hoping that FFers, through one of our A-lister friends, would be reached out to for early invitation. Sept 30 is sooo far away!
- jcunwired
Thank Heavens for Google!! Every Computer User owes Google a Huge Thank U for FREEing us all from the Shackles of Greedy Monopolistic Crappy Microsoft* ;))
- Billy Warhol
oooh, I can't wait for this!:)
- Patrik Johansson
I watched the video. So exactly what kind of beast Google Wave is? A social media platform? Can it aggregate as well as FriendFeed? Looks awesome to me. More like a tsunami. lols
- jan geronimo
bump due to duplicate
- Zee.
Hehe, delete the dups, Zee. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
i did didn't i?
- Zee.
I'll bump this again. Sorta disturbing that the the Scoble "look at me, I'm part of this" thread has garnered more attention than this. WAVE offers more promise at this point.
- Mattb4rd
Whoohoo - I am really looking forward to Google Wave - great news - thanks Zee.
- Robert Freeze
Lifestreaming 101: How to Put All Your Content in One Place with Google Reader - http://www.labnol.org/interne...
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Samuel Driessen, as365n2, Kenley Neufeld and 102 other people liked this
"Learn how Google Reader can help create a lifestream feed by merging multiple feeds into one. It’s easier than combining feeds in Yahoo Pipes."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
This sounds very interesting.
- Kol Tregaskes
I'll set this up later today.
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't know if my thinking on this is right. I wanted to post my FF items to a Blogger blog in order to save them in case they "go away." I thought there was some way I could do this automatically, but I can't figure out how. Second, I set up a posterous and put that in the reader. That works fine and I put my new, so far empty blog in the reader. I guess I just need to know how to get stuff onto my blog from FriendFeed. Any ideas?
- Kimber Scott
Shame I cannot use my user-friendly URL, e.g.: http://www.google.com/reader... instead it's http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kol Tregaskes
One thing you cannot add to this is your GReader Shared Items. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
BTW, here's a long list of GReader users, why not add yourself here: http://ff.im/6mh5s
- Kol Tregaskes
And then read these tips from Svartling here: http://ff.im/6mh5s (the main one being to add everyone to a group so they can see your shared items and are allowed to comment on them).
- Kol Tregaskes
Done mine, see entry here: http://ff.im/6Ci0P
- Kol Tregaskes
I've just added GReader Shared Items via a FF search. I couldn't think of a better way to do it.
- Kol Tregaskes
Too bad this doesn't work with Google Reader for Mobiles : (
- Andrew Currie
:-(
- Kol Tregaskes
I've created a lifestream bundle here: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kol Tregaskes
Me too here: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Svartling
sounds like an easy way to create a "clipping" service for an intranet minus all the hassles and money
- Glenn Batuyong
careful with that functionality: if you publish the link to such a tag/folder, and people go to that link's share page (the typical google reader share page) and choose "subscribe", they won't get 1 feed, they will get a new folder with all these feeds automatically subscribed. Not what I would have expected!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Yep, you can see the feeds by clicking on the + button at the top.
- Kol Tregaskes
my bundle is here http://www.google.com/reader...
- Chris Hofmann
Thanks, Chris.
- Kol Tregaskes
What happens when you screen share on a computer that's already sharing your screen - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Phong (Paul) Vo, Rob Diana, Federico Bolsoman and 6 other people liked this
Infinity!
- Rob Schieber
I've trying to add a load of my followers + people I follow on Google Reader to a group but it's refusing to save the changes! :-(
Baard @ Pixum, Carlos Ayala, Tyson Key and 6 other people liked this
This will be the third try. In fact, the number in the group has gone down while I've been typing this message!! What gives?
- Kol Tregaskes
Buggy still I guess...
- Jorge Escobar
Are the users removing themselves from my group? How would they do that?
- Kol Tregaskes
Give up, it's chucked the lot out again! :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
I had the same problem. I assigned users to my custom group friendfeeders but a few minutes later they were removed from that group. For every user you add to Greader, a new contact is created in Gmails Contacts. I assigned those "Unnamed Contacts" to the group as well and that worked.
- Nik
In Google Contacts? Let's give that a go then...
- Kol Tregaskes
Just noticed same issue :(
- Eric Logan
Everyone is in the group in Google Contacts, so I hope it's just a display issue in GReader. Svartling, who I've added to a group but has been removed, says he can comment so he must be in the group.
- Kol Tregaskes
Weird.
- Eric Logan
Experiencing the same issue.... :( puzzling. People I am following wont stay put in a group.
- David Peacock
Hi all- we filter out folks from your following list who haven't shared an item in the last 30 days. We do that in view only so it's easier to manage the people actively sharing. If someone you add to a group hasn't shared in 30 days, they are still in your group and will automatically show back up once they start to share again. If they are in your group in Gmail contacts, then they...
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- Jenna Bilotta
Jenna, thanks spotting this thread and taking the time to explain. Now I understand :)
- David Peacock
You should start a streamy group
- sofarsoShawn
Jenna - where's the best / simplest way to manage groups? Is it in gchat, profiles, some other method? Group and contact management is an area that could really use some improvement (don't take that as a dig - the recents changes have been great progress and overall very happy with greader)
- Chris Rogers
Thanks, Jenna. Cool Google Support on FF. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
That still doesn't explain why Svartling keeps getting deleted from my group when he posts all the time. And yes that is very confusing, please can they simply stay in the group I put them in regardless? I can no idea who I've added before or not and keep thinking I had to re-add them as the Add to group option still appears on the lists. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, if you email me at mihaip at google dot com with your email address and the emails of the people that keep disappearing from groups, we'll look into tracking this down (unfortunately I'm going on vacation tomorrow, so it might be a few days before we get to the bottom of this).
- Mihai Parparita
As far as contact management goes, the best UI for creating/managing groups is http://www.google.com/contacts. The contacts team (on Twitter at http://twitter.com/googlec...) knows that the interface isn't perfect, but they are working on improving it.
- Mihai Parparita
OK, I'll gather some details and post if I have problems, just tried it again and wait and see what happens. Either way this needs a real tidy-up. When you add someone to a group they should stay there, not automatically be removed and completely confuse us when we see the 'Add to group' links again. I don't use Google Contacts so all this needs to be within GReader.
- Kol Tregaskes
People are removing themselves from my groups too. It's annoying
- Rodfather
Rod, see Jenna's comments above. It's a 'feature'. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, are you going to be doing a live webcast on all this? ~ ;-)
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
No the problem was mis-diagnosed. The people I follow in greader are not always added to my gmail contacts. If a contact does appear in contacts then it stays. When it does not you have to repeatedly add to a group until the contact is created.
- Ru Viljoen
This issue on Get Satisfaction: http://getsatisfaction.com/google... Please note that yr having the problem there as well!
- Chuck Falzone
Who thinks they are a Google Reader Addict already? Please sign - http://www.google.com/reader...
Myrna, Svartling, Will Higgins™ and 21 other people liked this
I wish it was possible to send links to GReader "add as friend". Perhaps there is a way but I don't know how to do it. Only way is to know somebody's email, right?
- Jesper Lind
If you on the FF profiles of people you want to subcribe to click on the Greader icon and you can subscribe from that page.
- M F
Kol also has a list http://friendfeed.com/google-...
- M F
Yes I can subscribe to feeds that way, but I can not "add as friend", or what ever it says in the english version of the interface. The "Shared objects" section.
- Jesper Lind
Try here http://www.google.com/reader...
- M F
love it except some of my feeds have too many ads :(
- BEX
BEX, what browser are you using? If you turn on ad-blocking plugin in Firefox, for example, you shouldn't see any.
- Kol Tregaskes
I keep wanting the likes to come up in google reader like here on FF. So you can give public props to those who brought something to your attention there. Maybe Wave will bring more FF features to Google. :\
- Bluesun 2600
Sorry but I am being awfully slow about Google reader i do not get it the moment I can just see maybe possibilities but flounder
- Chris Bellinger
Been a fan for several years.
- Alex Hellstrom
It still has some problems and is far from perfect and above all is not very straightforward (if you don't create groups with your followers and use the "comment view" you don't see the social aspect of it) but personally as I always have Greader open anyway I'm starting to use its social features which I believe will get a lot better.
- M F
I've been a google reader addict for longer than I've been on friendfeed
- Slappy Line
Me too, actually I live inside GReader
- M F
me :)
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Me, and that was before FB->FF
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
It's nice to connect with you folks on Reader. Here's my wish list for Google Reader: http://socialgeek.posterous.com/my-simp...
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Not totally sure but I suspect that if we "reshare" an item that had already been shared then it aggregates all comments if we share an item from the reader and someone else shares the same item from their own feed separately then they appear as two items. I agree that it should always aggregate the same item if shared by people in your circle. It could otherwise become painful when we will follow many people.
- M F
You may be right, MF. In any case, it shouldn't be difficult to improve the dup-detection. Right now, I'm following and being followed by 50+ people, and duplicates are a pain.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
It should be really easy to reduce the echo chamber directly within reader. May be one of the eventual strengths of the platform.
- Eric Logan
reader is my second home...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I've actually always lived in Google Reader more than Friendfeed. That said, I like we they are trying to do with the social features, I'm just not too crazy about them yet. GReader was where I focused on news of the day based on feeds I was interested in. This new feature is drawing in other people's likes that don't really apply to me (but some likes from that person are good) and the most annoying thing is duplicates.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Oh I'm becoming an addict more and more:)
- Patrik Johansson
I don't think I am. I KNOW I am. http://www.google.com/reader...
- Steven Perez
FriendFeed is how I broke my GReader addiction in the first place.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Me
- Mike Reynolds
I don't think, I know...
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'd like to get on board with this Google Reader thing... Is this hard to set up? {I'm behind on getting on board, due to focusing on other things}
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
This brief tutorial should give you an idea on how to start http://polnor.net/minds...
- M F
I've created http://friendfeed.com/mlx-gre... which pulls my top tags into one stream, I use the feed in my SkyFire mobile start page and here, of course. So, yeah. I'm addicted to Google Reader. http://www.google.com/reader...
- MLx
BEX, have a look here: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... It doesn't remove them all though. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks Kol - you are the best!
- BEX
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Always been a g-reader addict!
- Adrian Scicluna
The new social features are making it even more addictive, they are not exactly straightforward at the moment but there are conversations happening if you are subscribed to people and use Comment View
- M F
Yes, see this image how to use Google Reader as an replacement for friendfeed: http://pingmicro.com/this-im...
- Svartling
I use Google Reader daily, just as much as I do FF, just in a different way up till now. I think the new social features of it have real potential, though they are still buggy at the moment. The main issue I'm having right now is that now matter how I follow someone, 9 times out of 10, they are put into Google Contacts as an 'unnamed contact'. Which means that they don't keep in the...
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- Tony, Paradox of FF
ironically enough, my use of Google Reader fell off as I got more active on FF. and now i'm using it more again
- Imabug
greader is cool, but I like feedly that is cooler, but since it is greader guess i am addicted
- Robert Higgins
Tony: In one of the comments at Google Reader a user said that Google is looking into fixing that "group bug".
- Svartling
Yeps, Tony - this is the main issue (and it irritates me, too). But we should remember that they just started to add those 'social features' and despite this the tool is very impressive even now - at least in my humble opinion. We can observe improvements nearly every hour... Anyway - I am on Google Reader for so long that I will definitely stay there and observe the developement and participate: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Hanna Wiszniewska
Follow me here: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Svartling
Yeah, I'm ok with the issues for the most part because they are new and its just a part fo early adopting stuff. Just giving a heads up to anyone else who may have been having the same issues.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
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excellent.
- Joe Silence
After my Downfall video for FriendFeed, I think I peaked. Nothing seems share-worthy anymore. Is there a social media retirement community?
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Obviously I can't provide a lot of detailed plans and guarantees, but I can tell you that I'll do my personal best to ensure that the FriendFeed users and community are treated right. I love this product too, and don't want to see it disappear.
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That's great to read!
- Diego Barros
Thank you, Paul.
- joey
:)
- Chrimmus Tad
I hope so.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Good of you to recognize.
- Bill Kinney
Thank you, Paul. Hearing something is always better than hearing nothing =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think this was a smart move fore FF and FB
- Joe Hall
What about the service?
- Amit Morson
Ok
- Matthew DeVries
That's a start. Thanks for reaching out.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Thanks Paul.
- sean percival
Thanks Paul
- Mike Doeff
We don't want it to go either.
- Yolanda
I would not expect any less from such a cool guy like you, thanks! :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Please keep it going for as long as you can or until you can make Facebook actually work.
- AJ Kohn
That's heartening, Paul. Thanks.
- Admiral Anika
Thanks Paul!
- Darren Heydon
We love you guys and FriendFeed.. we are just a little hurt and worried.. just please give us details as soon as possible.
- Tim Hoeck
FriendFeed lets me use people as filters to turn data into information. Facebook doesn't. Until it does, please, Please, PLEASE keep FriendFeed as a destination alive.
- AJ Kohn
congrats guys! facebook needs what you got!
- Lorna Herf
I'm sorry that I haven't said more about this. As you can imagine, it has been an extraordinarily busy day (and I've barely slept in the past week).
- Paul Buchheit
I'll add my plea to the chorus: Please don't take FriendFeed away from us. And don't make us go to Facebook (because we won't). FriendFeed means a lot to a lot of people and the thought that it will dry up and blow away shortly is very disturbing.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
It's still great to hear from you Paul. Congrats on that new swimming pool full of cash. :D
- Chrimmus Tad
Simply glad you're here now. You've always been a very responsive and transparent team. As much as I cringe at the thought of FF going away, I *am* happy for you and the team.
- AJ Kohn
Thanks Paul.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Thank you kind sir.
- Andrew Smith
I request you make it to the next scheduled FFundercats podcast to talk to the community. This announcement deserves a live appearance to the community.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Have been dealing unsucessfully with Twitter for two days, trying to get logged in...Their password reset page says"Snap we can't find you." I keep writing to Tech Support at Twitter and get their helpful auto-generated Twitter Trouble shooting email. My problem is not there. =( Hope FriendFeed does not get that blaise about helping users. @EV
- SashaKane
If FB can't keep the service running, would you consider open-sourcing the thing, so we can?
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
Hi Paul, thanks for the assurances. In the future, I would highly suggest that you make this sort of statement shortly after the initial merger release. Thanks again.
- Alex Scoble
Thanks for keeping the passion!
- Shane
Nice to hear Paul. Thanks.
- Mark Krynsky
I would like to give you a hug right now Paul. However, that would be awkward and April might beat me up so I will just say thank you and press the like button.
- EricaJoy
Best news I have heard today.
- Angus Burton
Thank you for affirming that. Much appreciated.
- Karoli
A few more points that would be nice to have addressed soon. Ability to export data, tool to import friends to Facebook, and will ff.im urls continue to function?
- Mark Krynsky
Amelioration??
- heretic_twit
Those that like friendfeed as is should be most pleased with this statement, as it probably means maintenance to keep the current system as is, without as much attention to new features. It's also good news for all those who like both friendfeed and facebook, as facebook will likely adopt the better features from friendfeed
- Ivan Kirigin
That means an awful lot to me.
- James (!?)
This has been quite a day! Can't wait to hear what is next!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Thank you, Paul. Thank you for coming out from behind the curtain and finally giving us some communication, some semblance of hope.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Thanks, Paul.
- Mistletoe Glen
So we can expect a Facebook adaption of this? I like this technology over everyone else!
- Shaggy Jenkins
Eric, my schedule is still a little uncertain at the moment, but I'd be glad to appear on a future FFundercats.
- Paul Buchheit
That would be a good thing Paul. Thanks.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Cool :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Thanks for making FriendFeed what it is, and lets hope it stays that way, though there's slim chance of that
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Now that I think about it: are you kidding me? They've already stated that FriendFeed's going to be absorbed into Facebook. What kind of sleight-of-hand are you trying to pull now, Paul?
- Akiva Moskovitz
@EricaJoy: I have nothing against hugs. :)
- April Buchheit
Thanks!
- Vincenzo Piromalli
Thanks, Paul. I've been getting more and more depressed thinking about the bad ways this could go. The reassurances help a bit, at least. In fact, just hearing you speak on the point is encouraging - the open lines of communication between the FriendFeed team and its users has always been one of the great things about FriendFeed that I'm afraid will be lost with the Facebook buyout. And yes, a FFundercats appearance would be a great idea.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I don't want to read too much into this reassurance but the "personal best" remark made me think like there is not a united FF anymore and that it's up to your personal efforts to prevent it from being eaten by FB :)
- Turker Keskinpala
you can sell the tech but the community can not be bought sold transferred or merged
- Robert Higgins
from f2p
Turker, I do believe that this deal was the right decision -- I'll write a bit more about that when I get a chance. I say that I'll do my "personal best" because I will -- it would be misleading to make promises on other's behalf :)
- Paul Buchheit
Hoping so... practicing patience
- Majento
Paul: I'm hopeful that this will be the best for both Facebook and Friendfeed. What you and the staff at FF have done is amazing, with only 12 people! I love the service here. I also enjoy Facebook (one I ignore all quizzes and stupid apps), but in a different way. Hoping some coolness can be brought to both. Good luck to you and your team!
- Travis B. Hartwell
this echoes star wars galaxies, incredible unique community. but they upgraded it to be like world of warcraft. this is a replay of the devs soothing messages. the forums were livid the community evaporated.
- Robert Higgins
from f2p
When socialmedian was acquired by Xing they left it alone. I hope the same happens here. I'm sure you will do your best though!
- Michael Fidler
On behalf of the Dutch citizens our Queen wants to let you know: Thx Paul.
- Ton Zijp
Don't know what to say, so lets start with big congrats! from one hand, as an early member of Friendfeed I think we've created here a very cool, collaborative and tech-savvy/passionate community of great people that all probably wish to stick around as much as possible. From the other hand, I know how corporates work and it takes one small decision of share holders to close Friendfeed...
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- Nir Ben Yona
My first reaction is disappointment. I don't believe big corporations do better than small ones. Facebook is inferior to FriendFeed, although it's user base is much larger. Clearly FriendFeed won't survive in the long term, unless it is open sourced. Why not open up and embrace the wonders of the GPL instead of joining forces with the Walled Garden no #1? Facebook don't even operate with permalinks,.
- Morten Blaabjerg
Thanks for the explanation Paul. Of course, I congratulate you guys. I think anyone would do the same thing if they were in your shoes :)
- Turker Keskinpala
Very bittersweet clicking [Like] on this one.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
A big congrats for you guys.. However, I feel kind of sorrow :)
- Ozkan Altuner
good to hear
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Thank you - but I would very much like our content to stay intact. :)
- Mona Nomura
Of course it is, Ryo.
- Christopher A Carr
Ryo: if you delete your account everything goes away. I totally disagree with you about Facebook, but that's OK.
- Robert Scoble
Good to hear. Unfortunately I think Facebook are going to download the brains of all FriendFeed staff then kill FF.
- Michael McGimpsey
but Paul it is going to disappear - Facebook bought FF not for the site but for you guys. So obviously once its integrated into Facebook, development on FF will stop
- Anthony Feint
If FriendFeed and all of it's functionality get integrated into Facebook I'm all for it.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Thank you Paul! Congrats on the deal!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Paul - that's great news. It surely can't cost a lot to keep this place running and it's a good place to try out ideas before they move to FB.
- Martin Bryant
what about improving the product and making sure it gets more users, not only supports those who stay?
- Ihar Mahaniok
Ihar - unlikely. Facebook bought FF for the developer talent, not for FriendFeed itself.
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
Martin - I also think so, and it is most likely. But I could still have a hope
- Ihar Mahaniok
Paul, please - underpromise & overdeliver...they say it works.
- A.T.
Nice to hear. Too bad you don't call the shots anymore.
- jcunwired
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! (nice name for Facebook skunkworks) I'm sure everyone would love to see FriendFeed itself stay around, even if the innovations that happen are geared towards implementation at Facebook. Thanks for this note Paul! :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
There are a few promises and guarantees that you SHOULD be able to provide. Like, that our network of friends will remain intact and that the features that make this site great will remain. If you can't make those promises, then you shouldn't have done the deal. I sure do hope that the real-time search engine wasn't the centerpiece of this deal (it probably was), because that certainly...
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- Brad Williamson
Paul you did such a nice job with friendfeed, and I so want to believe you, but I'm not sure I can. Not because of you, but because of your new employer. Because your new employer is no longer you, and while I have kind of come to trust you, I do not trust your new boss. Not at all. Please prove me wrong, if they'll let you.
- Jim Will Miss SP
Paul - thanks for that reassurance. PLEASE stick to that! I was in the middle of reading and participating in a lengthy discussion off of a Robert Scoble post yesterday ... then I came up for air and saw your news. Congratulations - I have no idea what that feels like or how pumped you must be. There are so many things FF does that I LOVE...I know you know that. Please Please PLease dont' go away! Thanks!
- Tobin Truog
Thanks for the personal note Paul.
- Mike Reynolds
Phewww..relief ;-)
- Ritu
This is nice to hear, and I really hope that FriendFeed will keep on living. I still have some pain in my stomach because of this :/
- Patrik Johansson
First zombie/mafia request and we're all outta here....
- Fossil Huntress
+1 Fossil Huntress The partitioning of the networks between friendfeed and facebook was a major feature that many people made use of, lacking appropriate controls for who sees what. Merging the two groups of friends isn't going to work, at all.
- Mr. Gunn
It doesn't sound like you understand what has people worried. I wrote this to help: http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...
- Bruce Lewis
And we'll appreciate this man! Try to do your best to help FF :(
- FFTornado
Maybe Bruce analysis is too imaginary, but the question is THE question nobody answered: why did you do it, Paul?
- Luca Sofri
I left a response on Bruce's entry (http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...). I'll write more about this on my blog when I get some free time.
- Paul Buchheit
Thanks.
- Bonnie Foster
we all know what needs to happen. the question is, where? ... FB needs, - apart from being/it is, a large, general, open application platform, - 1. Smart keyboard shortkatze - and Im a kbsCzar to go to, 2. Aggregating facilities, smart /RSS/ .. 3. Full blogging facilities, capabilities, not 140 chars. 4. Full real time comments facilities, capabilities. 5. Real time, live, but ALSO...
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- Petr Buben
I hope you're being open and honest with us. This time. :(
- Kamilah Gill
Good to know , we´ll see :)
- Yahya
Thank you! I am sure you will do great things at FB. I just hope that the great app you built here isn't destroyed. I don't know of any other aggregation app that I can embed into my site like this one!
- beersage
Congratulations on your successes, best wishes for more. And thanks for continuing to look out for us loyal, addicted FFanatics!
- Rob Schieber
I hope it continues, i'm a new user and absolutely love it (wish i knew the value of it before)! Congrats!
- Luis D. Santos
As nice as it sounds I'm sorry to say that as a, now, Facebook's employee I'm afraid you'll have to comply to whatever your new boss tells you. Didn't MZ make it clear?
- lelapin
and let me add second, obvious, "Facebook needs" - Friendfeed bookmarklet, and Friendfeed tools - widgets, embedding - real time and not - of posts, and groups ...to embedd, to inject oneself into this thing called Internet ..... so, if FB listens to FF engineering long enough, they are going to get it .. right
- Petr Buben
Paul, what I am worried is not that you're brainwashed, but that there's simply no business need for Facebook to improve FriendFeed from now on, period.
- Ihar Mahaniok
I have confidence Paul. While some of the comments were probably uncalled for, covering an investment (of time and money) in these times to move on and hopefully provide even 'better stuff' makes sense to me. It's pretty obvious there are a LOT of people that don't want to 'lose' Friendfeed. (I wouldn't hold a town hall for a few weeks though :)
- Charlie Anzman
Congrats, Paul. It's sad that people have to make these uncalled for hatred comments about Facebook though. Why can't both sites work together. I think Facebook will do better with FF and vise versa. Take the good features of both services. Don't boycott FB, enjoy it. I'm sick of the negative comments going on, that's all. :(
- Molly, "sorry"
Molly: What makes you think there's going to be a "vise versa?"
- Christopher A Carr
Because I don't think Paul and the other FF developers would allow FB to do anything. I'm sorry, I am not going to think negative here like some here are. I guess I'm a fangirl for FB.
- Molly, "sorry"
Finally something about the changes on the horizon that isn't all d0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0om and whining. Thank you, Paul! :D
- Christian (Simply X)
The time to think about how you could do your 'personal best' to ensure FriendFeed continues to exist was prior to the discussions with Facebook. Not after.
- Andy C
Paul, what about the content scam that FB T&C is, does it apply to Friendfeed now? Should we all start writing scripts to retroactively delete all content ever uploaded to Friendfeed? Elaborated a bit here - http://friendfeed.com/mbravo...
- Michael Bravo
We know you'll try your best, Paul. But sometimes, you just can't win the dark side...
- Winston Teo
Thanks Paul for all your efforts. Founders often want the best, but acquiring companies often have people with political/power issues or different/limited visions.
- Mitchell Tsai
Yeahhhhhhh BOoooiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
yes, thank you, Sergeant Paul ... well, good to hear we go on ... because if not, how about starting www.anotherFeed.com ... or, www.Letsgofeed.com ...... anyway, lets boost blogging capabilities, post more than current amount of chars, lets have TOP POSTS / clicks count list at the head of each group, some stats, lets index group headers, lets have MORE keyboard shortcuts .. - now ......
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- Petr Buben
Talk about Facebook buying FriendFeed here (on FriendFeed, of course):
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I'm not sure what it means, but I hope the goodness of Friendfeed stays intact.
- Tom Landini
I guess Facebook just got real time search engine!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
What do facebook get out of it?
- Ruchit Garg
Fact or fiction?
- Jason Cronkhite
from iPhone
I haven't seen likes and comments stream real-time this fast before.
- ydfeed
It depends on who lays claim to our posted and aggregated material.
- jcunwired
it could work. if Friendfeed completely replaces Facebook
- Edgar Rodríguez
I think it's a brilliant move, although bringing this into the Facebook walled garden would ruin it.
- Derek Shanahan
how much for?
- Ruchit Garg
Is it true Robert?
- Kevin Whalen
BAD 'n SAD :((
- sid 【ツ】
Great match to take on the Twitter machine.
- Ryan Cummins
what is next..facebook killing twitter integration...SCORE....??
- Denis
++Edgar
- Ryan
Presumably a technology acquisition then, Facebook is buying the team and the tech.
- DGentry
Good for Facebook, BAD for us. NOOOOOOOOOOOO
- Nir Ben Yona
I don't like it
- Jason Hargrove
Bad news, if true.
- LogEx
Just because Facebook bought Friendfeed, doesn't necessarily mean they will do anything with the service. At least maybe not right away. People need to chill out.
- Alex Knight
hope it doesn't mess w/ twitter integration
- Ken Seto
makes a lot of sense - f.b. now has a power house of real-time all-stars. fixes many of the feature 'wish' lists for f.b. - actually a major positive sign for innovation. congrats to the F.F. team.
- michael sean wright
How can i shut down my ff account?
- Fotis Alexandrou
I need a few hours and possibly large amounts of chocolate
- Bwana ☠
If you are right, that "Facebook just got real time search engine", that is good - as FB really, really needed it for a long time.
- Bora Zivkovic
:(
- Sinem Co
yes, this is fast. Reminds me of a few hours ago when I was on Freenode
- Ian Tindale
There goes your data.
- Jason Hargrove
This will probably be bad. like all purchases, it will be an "afterthought" and never be fully allowed to develop and flourish.
- Ryan Jones
Man this is really SUCKS!! :((( we all know Facebook strategies on the web :(( Whey will drive FriendFeed to the helll and I'm pretty sure of this :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( BAD SUCKS SAD :(((
- FFTornado
Funny thing is, if you posted about this on Facebook, 99.9999% of it's users would go "huh, what's FriendFeed anyway?"
- Richard Matthias
It almost seemed inevitable since Facebook has been copying so much of Friendfeed in recent months. It's good for the founders of FF and may benefit those of us who use both on a regular basis. Maybe they'll just leave FF alone?
- Kenley Neufeld
someone tell me what they will do with it? Nothing maybe? Kill it, maybe?
- Francine Hardaway
Wonder how they'll integrate, separate services with more interaction or FF swallowed by Facebook.
- Steven Cains
Buy as is use it's IP and close it down or run as separate business? Either way, didn't see that coming.
- Keith Bennett
from BuddyFeed
It was bound to go down. Like we used to say on the block shootin' dice "Big Bank Take Little Bank"
- professor daddyo
I do, however, wish tha tmore sites would implement this commenting engine.
- Ryan Jones
Fotis: haha, wait too long, and you'll never be able to close your FF account ;)
- Jason Hargrove
not believing it until another source confirms...
- Benton
Congrats to the friendfeed team. Worried about the future though.
- Andy Roth
Whats FriendFeed anyways?
- Marco Horta
so that Facebook can maybe copyright the "Like" button? lol
- Than R
How are we going to abbreviate it now? FBFF? FFFB? F^3B ?
- Harry Wolff
I receive the breaking news via BNO News at this moment: Facebook acquires FriedFeed...
- Torsten Eckert
haha you're right Richard
- Ken Seto
Wow
- Rodfather
I am stuck in Texas and have not confirmed myself.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
OMG.
- Nathan Chase
It looks like a defensive move. I think it's better fro FB to acquire FF than incorporating twitter functionalities in their status feature.
- Pablo Paniagua
maybe they can implement threads?
- Jeremy Toeman
double wow.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Friendbook? Facefeed?
- Jeff Harbert
If it's true, I suspect FriendFeed as we know it will be gone, but Facebook will be greatly improved.
- Costa Walcott
bah. i will go do something else. this news isn't helping
- Edgar Rodríguez
trying to look on the bright side - maybe we'll get those iPhone/Blackberry apps for better access to FriendFeed
- Stuart Miniman
But if it isn't true we would have heard by now.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
apprehensive about this
- Liz Polay-Wettengel
Official: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Brandon Titus
I want to hear the $$$ number
- moo yu
Congrats to ff team...but how does this work? I have 2 different accounts...and I like it that way...I don't want to share/spam my friends on facebook with what I have here...
- brainno722 (Peter)
@robert no we wouldnt have
- Jeremy Toeman
It's official: http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Costa Walcott
Originally posted this to your other FF/FB post before you astarted this one: I don't see the point of Facebook acquiring FriendFeed. They are pretty much identical services (well, FF represents just the News Feed portion of Facebook) I don't see how they can incorporate FriendFeed into Facebook. If they really did buy it, then I see this as them going for programming talent more so...
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- Christopher A. Wichura
From FF blog http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Tom Landini
I'm hoping this improves Facebook (just like everyone else). Facebook has gotten horrible stale for me of late.
- Harry Wolff
This stream itself is the evidence of WHY Facebook bought FF.
- Steven Walling
What's looking shiny and new now? :-)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I've been needing a reason to get re-interested in Facebook, this could be it.
- JonInteractive
Friend management will need to be enhanced/overhauled. Otherwise, the noise will make the combined product unusable.
- Peter Ghosh
No! I am going to cry! I HATE FACEBOOK! I have a Facebook account, but FriendFeed is way better. Life is over! Apocalypse.
- Zachary TG
Seriously, how can i shut it down?
- Fotis Alexandrou
We'll have to wait for more details to see exactly what Facebook is planning to do with FF.
- 321
Bodes badly for FriendFeed. --rj
- Roger Jennings
I think this is more of a "send the friendfeed traffic to facebook" than any kind of technical leverage. My biggest concern here: in order to exchange dialogue with people on facebook I need to be friends with them vs. being able to do it on friendfeed without having to friend them up. I find this valuable as there may be a topic or 5 that I want to engage with user "X" on, but I don't...
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- Erik Boles
I am disappointed by this news... I don't like Facebook at all... And I'm afraid they will just kill FriendFeed with their awful cluttered interface...
- Fa La La La Lindsay
It depends on how they integrate it. Did they buy it for the search engine, or did they buy it as a potential for extending the reach of Facebook into real time conversations? It's all about the life stream now right? So probably Facebook's attempt to stake a claim there.
- Tony "Frosty" Welch
bad days are coming
- Ahmet Soyata
Fotis, why do you want to shut down our FF account?
- Alex Knight
This is bad news for Yahoo 360°. Oh wait, too late.
- Ian Tindale
Bad bad bad bad bad bad ::runs screaming down the hall::
- mary
Crap!
- Zachary TG
This is disgusting.
- Zachary TG
First of all, I love the name "Facefeed." ROFL Second, this is business boys. Happens all the time. Why do you think innovation keeps happening. FB will integrate or kill off FF, and something else will happen. It's a natural cycle.
- Francine Hardaway
For a second I thought it was a joke, but then I checked Friendfeed's Blog. http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009... Damn it.
- Alejandro
Nir Ben Yona +1
- Muge Cerman
Turmoil
- Ian Tindale
wondering if i should continue aggregating all my online activity in frienfeed now that facebook owns it!!
- Gtp19
I can't begin to process this right now. Too much work to focus on. Later when I read this 10,000 mile long thread and have a glass of Cab in hand.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Geeks and fb not a good mach
- thomas elton
from iPhone
We fear change
- Ian Tindale
Not feeling real good about this, hope fully Facebook will do right by the FF community, but I'm not holding my breath. Glad for the FF team though
- Kim Landwehr
Twitter dissed again.
- JonInteractive
if you look closely at FF the large majority of FF posts are twitter posts, so there was not that much original content on FF in the first place...
- Ingmar
So FB failed to buy Twitter, - so they buy FF which is just a UI for twitter..
- Nick Halstead
Makes a lot of sense for Facebook. And we find this very healthy ^^
- twitscoop
People need to stop freaking out. The Facebook/Friendfeed buy out was just announced. Wait for details people.
- Alex Knight
It could be bad, it could be good. As long as Facebook doesn't try to port their functionality over, I'm fine with it being a financial acquisition.
- Adam Reyher
Crap, its official !
- Peter Dawson
This is really bad... a wonderful tool based on killer technology will go over into this mass market teeny poking culture. Bah!
- Markus Tressl
then again it is great for linking FB, TW, flickr and so on
- Ingmar
Here is the FF post on the acquisition: http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Mrinal Desai
Great, why did I bother creating an account here? I could have held out.
- desinole
if this is true, for the love of god, please don't Facebook go and mess up FriendFeed as they have their own system, Facebook is a mess these days, Friendfeed is one of the 2.0 sites that actually has concentrated on doing a few things well, complete opposite to Facebook.
- Carl Grint
I suppose Friendfeed was considerably lacking in LOLcats.
- Ian Tindale
Cuz we all know that facebook doesn't respect user's privacy and you've got basically everything on ff, youtube, twitter, digg whatever you do
- Fotis Alexandrou
Paul Buckheit will now be a house husband:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Confirmed by FF http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- David Peacock
Smart for Facebook but I prefer Friendfeed the way it is.What, we'll be throwing rabbits next?
- Janet Fouts
FriendFeed listens to the community. Facebook doesn't. Not to mention they're ENTIRELY different communities.
- Adam Reyher
If they keep FriendFeed as a separate site, and still upgrade regularly, this is fine. If FriendFeed winds up in the dead pool, then it sucks.
- Steve Sill
If true, congrats to the FF Founders!
- Jason Cronkhite
from iPhone
Maybe I should rediscover my Orkut account.
- Ian Tindale
I was just thinking how Friendfeed had stayed out of recent takeovers, mergers and hence cyber attacks. Will Friendfeed now be taken over by celebs and spammers too?
- Nils Geylen
Not sure why this news makes me nervous. Please tell me it's going to be ok Scoble...
- Lucas
FF has been FB's incubator for awhile.
- Peter Warnock
it's true damn!!!!
- Edgar Rodríguez
How can I spam on this thread please ? Any idea ?
- Toucouleur
Facebook has ZERO respect for users' wishes... Friendfeed is incompatible with that. Friendfeed will be going away. :( Their blog post says as much: "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally **for the time being**. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product"
- tollie williams
Quickest/Biggest thread ever
- Ian Tindale
Ideally, FB will leave FF to do the sweet innovating they are doing and just take the awesome features and put them into FB
- Ryan
This is the first time I've used Friendfeed in a year. Good move on their part.
- chantelle
How Much ? $$$ ;-)
- Jacopo Gio
I'm heading back to Jaiku where it's nice and quiet
- Ian Tindale
So, where do we migrate to now?
- Byron McCollum
FriendFeed functionality on Facebook would be nice. The reverse, not so much. They're trying to address two entirely separate purposes and as such, need to remain completely separate.
- Adam Reyher
back to the twitter
- emresezgin
I want numbers. how much did facebook pay?
- Zac Bowling
soon friendfeed will = Jaiku
- johnny2009
Hum...let's see what happens.
- Chip Hanna
Stay here until FB does something dumb with FF
- Ryan
The rhetoric seems a bit too "Facebook will do what they want with us" and not "we will remain FF and continue forward". Seems as if FB went for the tech and we could lose FF as a seperate entity. Boo.
- Derek Shanahan
confirmed by facebook press release.
- Zac Bowling
Love 'em or hate 'em....Facebook made a phenomenal purchase.
- Kevin Pruett
I see a ton of Wall Spam. Facebook users just don't get it when you port your twitter updates over. There is too much for them to wrap their heads around. This will be a hard transition.
- Ryan Cummins
And I was REALLY getting fond of FriendFeed. From now on only downhill applicationwise?
- Bart
Not happy about this. I use Facebook, but don't like it. It reminds me of AOL from 10 years ago.
- David Sharpe
I agree that I don't want FB to mess up FF, but this will also give FF a higher profile and bring in many more users...which we may or may not like, judging by what happened on Twitter. I hope FF doesn't die off like Jaiku because I really think FF offers a more valuable and useful interface.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
One thing to consider is this: If we have "trusted" the FriendFeed people not to screw things up, hopefully we can trust them to make sure they're still in control in the terms of the acquisition.
- Adam Reyher
What's it going to be called? Failbook?
- Ian Tindale
Its going to be called Facebook.
- DGentry
I hope this is a joke.. Damn it, I dont like Facebook now there is nowhere to go... F***
- Jacque
I am trying to imagine how this will be a good thing for existing FF users. It feels so right and so wrong all at once!...Maybe at least my kids and wife will finally get what I've been ignoring them for over the past year.
- Thom Kennon
FeedFace
- Ian Tindale
Is that means we're going to see more extremist groups around, now that FB has acquired FF?
- Nir Ben Yona
so where do all the cool kids go now? we need another startup, stat!
- h1ro
I am afraid... what johnny2009 have said can really be the future... soon friendfeed will = Jaiku
- Ahmed Mubbashir Khan
Damn,I've just"got friendfeed,and i love it.I definately don't like facebook.What does it mean for twitter?
- Paul Downing
Any investors want to predict the buyout price?
- Kevin Pruett
am gonna wait for google wave... coz in facebook, i cant access the complete stream for a month ago, the site goes down very often while browsing, and privacy issues galore!! congratulations for friendfeed but its jus me!!!
- Gtp19
Maybe we´re seeing here one of FriendFeeds biggest discusions ever. I´m sceptic about the future of FF as a standlone service...
- Torsten Eckert
What concerns me most is what happens to my friends here (and that I have to interact with my friends THERE). Will we have to be friends to interact in the same way we have the last couple of years?
- jcunwired
This is very good for FriendFeed as long as Facebook doesn't corrupt them. I would have preferred to see Google buy FF but I know with their focus on Wave I don't think it would have been a good fit. I like the Facebook platform, but they have done too many shady things in the past for me to trust them.
- Adam Teece
all of the conversation is happening on FriendFeed and Twitter - nothing on Facebook. Think we'd scare away Facebook if everyone starts having lots of conversations there - like on Scoble's fan page?
- Stuart Miniman
They can or don't have to fix FF's FB app now.
- ydfeed
Is Twitter going to buy Myspace?
- marcus bösch
Ha Stuart - great point *Facebookers take cover*
- Kimberle Kelly
That does it. I'm going back to usenet.
- Ian Tindale
What's next- Macy's buying Gimble's?
- Thom Kennon
Apple buys China
- Ian Tindale
what do you think Robert?
- courtney benson
All I can think of is now a lot of people can feel the pain the dedicated Pownce community felt, but at least you're not getting shut down, just yet.
- Mike Lewis
I'm not a big facebook user, but my gut feeling is that like twitter buying summize, it will mark the end of major innovations. I hope I'm wrong. But they should totally go with the facefeed mashup name.
- motownmutt
I dont see any potential for competition with twitter FB and Twitter serve different purposes as does FriendFeed
- iluvblackwomen
Sorry but renaming Facebook to 'Facefeed' is utterly stupid.
- Alex Knight
It'll be called ScobleFeed
- Ian Tindale
does making google reader more social has anything to do with this buyout??!
- Gtp19
yeah this was good for facebook. bad for anyone who liked friendfeed.
- Liz
FriendFeed is very good, a better way to use Twitter & etc. Knowing this, I still rarely use FF. Not going to start using Facebook more.
- Nicole
Actually, this could be death for Twitter when you think about it. The people I know who are in FB are not likely to add TWO more nets to their lifestream. FriendFeed makes more sense for them. Maybe Twitter just stays as the dumb pipe it's become for many of us here.
- Thom Kennon
Echoing what others have said - My guess: Facebook will get better, Friendfeed will get worse, Twitter will matter a lot less.
- Matthew Blaisdell
Good for FB UI and search, questionable for the FF community and its independent spirit ...
- Bo Stern
last comment 2 hours ago on FF by Paul Buchheit, FF CEO, was just " :)" http://friendfeed.com/paul #friendbook
- Jacopo Gio
The main reason why I came to FF was because when I tried to treat FB the same as FF, i was talking to a wall. At least people interact here. At FB, it's all about the cheesy games/apps.
- Matthew Horton
from iPhone
Just like most acquisitions, it could be good and it could be bad. I trust that FriendFeed will live on as FriendFeed, only sharing their tech with Facebook. Possibly more integration between the two sites. If you were FF/FB, what would you do?
- Nick Humphries
Twitter, Friendfeed and Facebook are three entirely different animals. Facebook eats Friendfeed and poops out little bits of content that once belonged to us. Twitter continues to thrive as the broadcast conversation-wannabe that it always was.
- jcunwired
Nick - think again. Its going to go away - read the tea leaves in this statement: "Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users" - Bret Taylor in this post https://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- jcunwired
Please no. I don't like FaceBook...
- Svartling
Facebook must want real time soc-net search badly...
- martin smith
The biggest thing here, at least within the Twitter context, is that this merger will combine 'verified' identity (in terms of Facebook user ID being slightly more 'real' than Twitter) with real time status updates.
- Dan Patterson
I'm looking forward to what this brings to Facebook. I have enjoyed both networks but wondered when FriendFeed/Facebook would face-off and/or be absorbed by the other. I think FriendFeed's tech will improve the Facebook experience.
- Jacob Sloan
FriendFeed + Twitter = disruptive. FriendFeed + Facebook = one more app for FB . Facebookers dont know the power of FriendFeed. I agree with : "" So FB failed to buy Twitter, - so they buy FF which is just a UI for twitter.. - Nick Halstead ""
- Rocky
Most likely scenario is Facebook assimilates the FriendFeed guys, has them work on improving Facebook newsfeed/realtime/status, and lets FriendFeed die a slow unmaintained death.
- Richard Akerman
Well, my friends on FB doesn't give a damn about sharing links, news, pics, vids etc. So I'm not sure how I will use FB+FF now. I don't think FriendFeed will exist, just implemented in Facebook. The name FriendFeed will die. And: on FB you don't want the whole world to see everything you're doing, just your friends. And it will stay this way. So the question is: Who will build the new FriendFeed?
- Patrik Johansson
Do this mean, by the way, that we (the FriendFeed users) should start to connect with each other on FB? How will they like that? People who get's 2-3 maybe 4000 connections?
- Patrik Johansson
Robert, it means all the time you invested building friends lists and updates there will go to Facebook :-)
- Loic Le Meur
could someone start to develop a Frienfeed clon , please ? ASAP !
- Rocky
Seems bloody terrible from this users perspective. Good for Friendfeed the company though.
- Quasar
Given Facebook's past, this could be really bad. Given FriendFeed's past, this could be really good. No real way to speculate without talking to the FF crew.
- xero
+3273 Quasar! (one for each of my Likes, already on a death march)
- jcunwired
Robert, do you know if Facebook is going to put on limits here at FF??? Oh crikey... so much for our citizen journalism here.... Admittedly I am bummed. Uber bummed.
- Arleen Anderson
EndFeed.
- Alex Schleber
your blog is the most important thing you can own on the web. these sites can come and go. it's a great social point but true friends you've made here you talk outside of ff, right?
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
It's a good time to sell to Facebook, cause Google Wave is imminent and is going to destroy all of Facebook, Twitter and FriendFeed. I think FriendFeed employees might even go back to Google eventually as soon as their contracts with Facebook are up.
- Charbax
Robert - wow. just wow I am stunned. Sorta sad actually. I love FF innovation and don't want to see that stop !!!!!
- Susan Beebe
(RE: Your tweet earlier) When you say the minor league team going to the majors, I don't always feel that this is a positive thing. As in this case, it's like Ferrari being acquired by Ford. I don't think I like this acquisition.
- Richard Merritt
the free ride couldn't last forever. I know it sucks that things will change, but they've got a lot more sense than Twitter has about these things..
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
You must all assimilate to the new FaceFeed
- Jonathan.Rivera
From what I'm gathering, this acquisition is more about FB acquiring the talented engineers of FF than it is about the FF software itself. A smart play by FB. Unfortunate for us that value FF. I personally feel that FB is just slowly becoming the new Myspace. Which I don't think I need to explain how lame that is.
- Richard Merritt
According to WSJ — FB paid $50 million — a mix of cash and stocks. http://bit.ly/SVTA5
- Richard Merritt
If you ignore all the crappy apps and just comment and post photos, your main feed on Facebook is fundamentally a pretty similar experience to FriendFeed - people post stuff, people comment on it. That is, at-least, the way my network tends to use Facebook. The main difference is that Facebook defaults to being very closed and private while FriendFeed defaults to being very open and...
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- Edward Coffey
edward - pretty much. it's FF for the layman. remember back in the day they used to have forums too?
- Terry O'Fee
friendfeed is very cliquey. you have your group of people who usually gather round for conversations. now imagine some of this friendfeed stuff in facebook. done right it will help them a lot.
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
I don't think I am liking this but FB does need to add the "edit" feature like on here.
- Marika Dye
FriendFeed is Facebooks Summize. It’s All About Search. http://bit.ly/11ZW6l
- paul mooney
Thinking Out Loud: Echo issues during a high profile tech show http://www.talkshoe.com/talksho...
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
FF acquisition is expected. But, as a user, I would be bumned, if FF would become a feature of FB. As, I tend to use Twitter as my social network and not FB.
- Vasu Srinivasan
It doesn't make much sense talking about 'Facefeed" and 'Friendbook'... Facebook simply bought a cool 12-people company called Friendfeed for its great search technology paying 15M plus some shares, which is really very cheap in this context, given the value of FF's technology (as it is perceived by us). They are also hiring the talented FF team, which makes the deal even more interesting for FB. Probably there are also some deeper hidden motives and implications that I am not able to get.
- Liviu Barbat
I would love it if Facebook integrated the FriendFeed features. I would love it if Facebook had FriendFeed's flexibility with Facebook's privacy control. It sucks that the world may lose FriendFeed, but it is great the Facebook will likely get better.
- Andrew
Andrew, Facebook will get better - over time. There won't be any Vulcan website meld of FB and FF overnight.
- Bill Sodeman
thank god someone understands that, andrew. it's like "i liked this band better before they went to a major label!" ;)
- Terry O'Fee
Bill - But we can dream, can't we? :) I mean, what I love about Facebook is that I'm interacting with my friends as my friends, not as usernames and avatars. But I hate their bookmarklet, the weird delays when I post anything, the comment system, and I hate the Photo gallery tech. I love the FriendFeed community, but would love bringing the FriendFeed technology over to Facebook even more. If only Facebook could buy Flickr next...
- Andrew
as long as fb start thinking in creative commons terms... one day ..
- Terry O'Fee
they are both great services I think will be a good thing
- Logan Lindquist
oh NO! I don't spend much time at FB (everybody there's too busy playing stupid games, at least in my little network), and besides it's more private unlike FF. And now they've gone and bought FF? And I just joined! I guess I won't be around here for long, since FF won't...
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't like it...
- Harry Mahardhika
No mention of Yahoo. Totally irrelevant these days. Sad.
- Scott Schnaars
This deal makes sense! Now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask!
- Garin Kilpatrick
One of my facebook accounts got closed up. Into this account I fed my friendfeed. And into friendfeed I fed for example my socialmedian shares, diggs, stumbles etc.
- Wilhelm Bauer
Time for the next generation app. *Taps foot impatiently for Google Wave*
- Karen Masullo
I don't think it's about getting Friendfeed it's self; but having the developers and the information about real-time search.
- Chris Martin
Fwd: Facebook acquires FriendFeed. Interview with Paul Buchheit, cofounder of FriendFeed. - http://btre.blogtalkradio.com/74_2996... (via http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...)
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Well that was fast, Robert.
- Adam Reyher
Wow. I honestly did not see THAT coming....
- Carter Rabasa
Nice work Robert.
- Alex Calic
ya talk about real time news, thanks
- sean percival
listening
- Chris Saad
This is beginning to resemble journalism.
- Ian Tindale
im not sure its such a great thing facebook and friendfeed sitting in a tree.
- Eran Even-Kesef
Good job Robert
- Ruchit Garg
Definitely, I'm listening now. Wow! This is breaking news!
- Manu Ullas
hopefully this turns out okay, don't want friendfeed to get ruined. great interview, that was fast reporting!
- Dakota O'Neill
What are your thoughts Robert?
- Amani
WD mate
- Chris Saad
That was quick. Thanks robert.
- Akshay Dodeja
Hoping this will lead to an improved/cleaner interface for Facebook...I prefer Friendfeed
- Rick Bucich
so, so sad. I like(d) Friendfeed much more than facebook
- Francisco Kemeny
home run for FF.. Facebook will be able to give developers a treasure trove of data one thing that Twitter is dominating on right now. Twitter has a huge developer community but isn't managing that. Here FB is poised to be huge
- John Furrier
So classic that Robert has the first interview about this...Where's Louis? :)
- Anthony Farrior
Wow!
- Ideas At Random
I think FriendFeed can help Facebook more than the other way around.
- Manu Ullas
"very cool...."
- Carter Rabasa
How do they plan to mix the teenagers with the geeks?
- Jordi Soler
Amani: I am excited! Facebook has 800 employees and 300 million users. This makes both companies much more important.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
here was a comment on SiliconANGLE blog .. very funny .. "Hey, since we've copied almost every innovation you've had, guess you might as well play on the company softball team!"
- John Furrier
Nice strategic move - Interesting to see how this will integrate and looks in 12 months
- Alex Vermeule (@alexve)
to be honnest I was predicting google offer, then facebook preceed google on this, they are doing well, now rarding FF this is great, the sucess is to know when to pass to something else, the future will make the abtle wave, facebook rude for all geek it is time to code.
- abdellah
You rascal Robert, bet you had wind about FriendFeed and FaceBook merger before today? Yes? Have not used either SM apps. much UNTIL Twitter locked my account. May have been a fortunate mishap as it turns out. Getting to know the beauties of both apps. =)
- SashaKane
Awesome. Thanks.
- M. Kong
Should be so very interesting.
- Adam
Robert wastes no time on the reporting. CNN needs reporters like this.
- JonInteractive
Not sure I am so jazzed about it....but congratulations to the FF crew.
- Kreg Steppe
Honestly, I won't get used to following Robert Scoble in Facebook. Seems out of place to me.
- Jordi Soler
Wow! I was not expecting that.
- Devon Govett
Letter 'F' affinity and alliteration merger, classic playbook move.
- James Watters
Did I hear someone laugh in the background when you asked about FF users being disappointed?
- Paul Saarinen
Agreed Jordi
- Rick Bucich
A good interview Robert.
- Thomas Hawk
Thanks Robert! - shared and linked over on Phreadz : http://tech.phreadz.com/v...
- kosso
Robert, mind if I transcribe this? (Unless someone else already has.)
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Congrats on getting this story Robert. I agree--this is great, realtime journalism!
- Sunshine
No mention of twitter?
- Ivan Kirigin
Hahahaha...all that time you invested over here on FF paid off today! LMAO
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: just watch what happens now. :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
do you have a small amount of FriendFeed shares Robert?
- Torsten Eckert
NOOOOOOO. Damnit! I am praying that Facebook doesn't wall up Friendfeed. I was starting to build a site around Friendfeed :(
- beersage
beersage: as Facebook is trying to break their users into a more public world, I doubt that you really have anything to worry about there.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Starting to listen to this now. Hoping you are right, Rob.
- beersage
I hope so to. But regardless, I think that it was in reality necessary for FriendFeed to sell to really put the technology in front of a sufficient number of eyeballs. Facebook is probably the best acquirer that FriendFeed could have. (I would have not felt the same had FF been acquired by Google)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The thing with Friendfeed though is how I can share things outside of a 'wall.' I prominently feature the FF widget on my site. I'm just concerned of losing that capability as I was tinkering with delivering a new site w/ content primarily running through my Friendfeed account. I am to this day unable to do much outside of the wall. I am unable to subscribe to Fan Page updates in Google reader for instance. That is what concerns me about FB acquiring FF given my goals.
- beersage
Robert sounded quite breathless in that interview. Thanks Robert.
- Roberto Bonini
Great interview great Job!!
- Kevin J Hatton
Wow! I'm in shock. I can't wait to hear this interview.
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
This deal was about getting Paul and the team and nothing else
- Stephen Pickering
@stephan, are you serious? FB is buying a concept, a technoloie, a structure, a content and a user list
- abdellah
now how could a team that left google resist under a unique perception system, where the leader vision is upon any thing
- abdellah
Unconvincing Paul Buchheit, the team is more exited of being part of bigger story - logical for them to move on
- patrickdh
They want a way to turn their white pages into a yellow pages and the only guy on Earth who knows how to do it, is Paul
- Stephen Pickering
It was only about the technology and the people. Most people are on also FB anyway.
- James Myatt
My guess is that Paul got a tooooooooon of options and will soon be the No.2 guy at Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
Glossing over of that "short term" question by the FF boys. It just seems more about the individuals at FF than it does the users of FF. "Their (Facebook) long term goals" Nice interview, Robert!
- Melanie Reed
Well, it looks as if pass-through of FriendFeed Likes, Comments, etc. to Twitter is down. Will it be for good? Did Twitter do this in response to the acquisition? Or is it just a regular (though curiously timed) hiccup?
- Alex Schleber
twitter dow!!
- abdellah
Alex, my Facebook posts have been going through FriendFeed to Twitter today. :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
How did you record the phone conversation with Paul Buchheit? I went to BlogTalkRadio.com but... it‘s not clear at all :-(
- Florin Grozea
Florin, rough transcript here: http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...
- Bruce Lewis
I have a few choice words. @#%&. That is all.
- Zachary TG
To do this call I used BlogTalk Radio's Cinch: http://cinch.blogtalkradio.com/
- Robert Scoble
dugg: http://digg.com/tech_ne...
- Gaith
Thanks for this, Scoble.
- mp3WatchWorld
this is why your own personal website is always more important than friendfeed, Twitter and all the rest. that's never going anywhere
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
We launch a new TWiT show @ 3p today: TWig - This Week in google - with Jeff Jarvis and Gina Trapani. Google and cloud computing the topics.
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looking forward to subscribing to the podcast. will be up in Sierra's without bandwidth to watch live today
- kent williams
Really looking forward to this show.
- Jari Hakkarainen
Sounds like a really nice addition to the TWiT network. Can't wait!
- Jonathan Grenier
Looking forward to it also
- Claes Krantz
hoping it will be up on itunes today, since i won't be able to watch it live. Can't wait to listen
- John Fogarty
from twhirl
Sounds interesting!
- Dean
I like the idea, but not the name. Seems kind of bias right off the bat. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the innovation that Google brings to the table, but to name the freakin' show after Google?? Can you tell that I am a big fan of Dvorak :)
- rodney.franklin
i look forward to listening to it!
- Aaron
Great! Was waiting for it since the pre-announcement in TWIT.
- Alexey Klyukin
Interested and looking forward to it! May have to listen to podcast though. Will be out on a boat this afternoon.
- Suzi Kilgo
from iPhone
Looking forward to a new show,
- rudedog
Can't wait to listen!
- Tom Webster
Think it was a big mistake to put the name "google" in the title, but will probably be a great show anyways.
- Steven Legault
this is great, so much to talk about, and so much to learn. I think most people have no idea the range of services that are emerging from both Google and Amazon related to cloud services that will be invaluable for the small or start-up business as well as consumers....
- Howie Schechtman
Can't wait! A new and exciting podcast for a new and exciting era of computing!
- Josh Rosen
yeah, a new era of computing, say's it all!
- Howie Schechtman
Great idea Leo. @gregorymurray
- Gregg
looking forward to it already
- Kevin Porteous
Oh no!!! Not more Leo Podcasts!!! :-) Sure I'll be there!
- Richard Bitting
Can't wait, Leo! I'll subscribe immediately. This is an excellent topic and I'm really glad to see the best podcast network on the Internet jumping right in to cover it.
- Eric Geller
I'm really interested to see how this show goes. This is a big topic heading into our future.
- Mike Nayyar
when will it be on itunes? i wonder
- Aaron
Where can I subscribe for iTunes?
- Ben
I'm not fond of the "Google" in the name either, it's like calling a car show "This Week in Gerneral Motors". But I'll try to listen in to the taping anyways, should be funny & knowledgable with the three of you.
- Martin
is that pacific time? look forward to it!
- Susan Ettenheim
And that album art need work, IMO. The "computing in the" is hardly legible.
- Martin
I actually didn't like the artwork so I tried a different one myself. Here it is; http://img149.imageshack.us/img149...
- Can Sağlam
This sounds like a good show, and nice graphics! But how do you have time leo?! Sometimes during somewhat slow news weeks there is some overlap in news like macbreak and twit which can sometimes be annoying but still great shows as I'm sure this one will be as well. WIll jeff and gina always be there or more of a twit interchangeable style?
- Denis Dervisevic
Looking forward to it, I love your other shows and Gina Trapani is great.
- Brandon Eaker
All things Google. Not all things Twitter? LOL Should be interesting. I was listening when you spoke of this show as a, maybe. I'll be there.
- D Lets
Ready to listen to the big three Windows Weekly, MacBreak Weekly and This Week in Google...TWiT is in a class by itself.
- Christopher Knopick
Windows Weekly is the best because Paul does something 90% of the TWiT network hosts don't do: RESEARCH!
- Mark
Looking forward to it Leo!
- Cody Clark
gonna check this one out
- (jeff)isageek
TWiG is better than TWiC (This Week in [the] Cloud) for those saying he shouldn't have put Google in the name.
- Marcus Boyce
Alright. Very cool
- Dylan Richardson
Looking forward to it.
- archaictree
Jeff is a great choice for this. WWGD
- Rob Truman
from fftogo
What's in a name? ;-) I look forward to this new addition to the TWiT network!
- Joe Gilbert
Great.. looking forward to it...
- Shoukat Dharani
this is hilarious with hindsight http://www.appleinsider.com/article...
- Mark
Gina is great, as is Jeff. I really look forward to seeing how this show develops.
- Lori Todd
Google is taking over the world. Chrome OS = Android 2.0 for large laptop screens, Google Voice on Android and White Spaces will kill the $1 Trillion Telecom and ISP industry, you should talk about those ARM processor based netbooks that are coming out with Chrome browser in the next few months, they will take over the whole laptop market and start costing $150 with no contracts.
- Charbax
Great show Leo. Great way to kick off Sunday morning. will try with hangover next week
- guydownunder
from iPhone
TWiG was great! It really makes me want to dive into the cloud. :)
- Curt Tweedle
Loved the show!
- Krista House
Great show! I will be a regular weekly viewer & I want to be a part of the Wave you set up.
- Don Struble
Can't find this show on itunes :(
- Richard
There is one This Week in Google podcast in iTunes, but it's not this one ;)
- Reijo
Mark, they did one episode and it was 2 years ago. I don't think they'll have any issues with the president of the internet using the same title...
- MλTT
I have been looking forward to this show since you first announced it. Thanks!
- Bruce Vittetoe
Great what a good idea since Google seems to run the show/
- Rob Cairns
Is TWig on iTunes yet?
- Devon Govett
Gina's great, glad to hear about it, Leo, thanks.
- randulo
Looking for it on iTunes here too, nothing yet.
- Andrew Leahey
Take a while to appear on iTunes. Meanwhile you can add it manually to iTunes with the following URL: http://leo.am/podcasts/twig Thanks for listening!
- Leo Laporte
Can't wait to subscribe!
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
What was that thing that Jeff Jarvis brought up at about 46:00 and it sounded like; Prezee or Prez-e? I have looked on Google and I found nothing.
- AquaGeneral
I think it was Prezi, http://prezi.com/
- Brandon Eaker
i thinks is very important the post
- amadeu.karen
Fantastic show... great topic. I found it on iTunes.
- Denise Deverelle Crown
Movie Genie Review: IMDB gets portable | MacApper #iPhone - http://macapper.com/2009...
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I wonder how many people and companies are changing their passwords and policies this morning because of #twittergate and http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... ? I know I am, I was doing a few of the stupid practices that caught Twitter.
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Does anyone have a good blog post for how to come up with strong password names and policies?
- Robert Scoble
taht's great, I am also willing to change my password.
- Madhav Tripathi
1Password on the Mac...
- Holger Eilhard
not for corp use but for personal use 1Password is perfect
- Mike Bracco
Holger: beat me to it :)
- Mike Bracco
Mike: Sometimes I'm faster. Rarely, but happens :-)
- Holger Eilhard
I will write a blog post about it.
- Madhav Tripathi
Robert on the network side of things there are programs that generate strong passwords. But you can develop a "feel" for it. I have to create them all the time. Just don't use "memory aids" they lead to social hacks
- Melanie Reed
You're okay if you don't use 3rd party apps to login to Twitter, right?
- Steven E. Streight
I like this one. http://www.pctools.com/guides...
- Logan Lindquist
Sorry, should have linked to the TechCrunch article about how the hacker broke into Twitter: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Robert Scoble
Steven: this isn't about your Twitter account's security. It's about your security on the Web.
- Robert Scoble
Here's some password policies you might find interesting: http://www.nersc.gov/nusers... , http://www.comptechdoc.org/indepen... , http://www.sans.org/resourc...
- imabonehead
I have no need because my passwords have always been 12+ characters, include caps, random characters, and numbers. I'm sure most people that use FF are the same way. The engineers I work with bitch about my choice of passwords all the time.
- coldbrew
The sad reality is any password can be hacked. It's just a matter of time as in attrition. But you can make it harder for them with strong passwords
- Melanie Reed
I use Lastpass.com to generate and save passwords.
- mrshl
Yeah, we've always tried to make sure our hosting customers understand how important it is create good passwords, but many still use bad passwords, hopefully all of this recent press will scare them into using better passwords. Most people don't care about their password until something bad happens to them. It's similar to people who ignore making backups and then find out the hard way.
- Scott Beale
Just pick a couple good ones that you can use for different things. Practice typing them so you can remember the keystrokes easier. The more you use them the easier it will be to remember. Use keepass or FFox to keep track of them.
- Logan Lindquist
1Password hands down for ease of use and strong password creation on OSX and iPhone
- Jerry Schuman
I wrote this regarding Twitter, security & the cloud: Here's my thoughts http://www.thetechnewsblog.com/2009... #twittergate
- Jim Connolly
Melanie: it's the social hacks that will catch the most people. Not the strength of the passwords. Notice that he didn't need to guess the passwords, he just needed to use the ecosystem against itself.
- Robert Scoble
I agree 100% about 1Password, one of the best Mac apps out there: http://agilewebsolutions.com/product...
- Scott Beale
Roboform on Windows. Otherwise 1Password.
- Herb Hernandez
Very few. People and companies generally don't make policy changes until they're bitten themselves.
- Darren
Good point about social engineering, Scoble.
- coldbrew
I ended up writing this http://blog.siliconverse.com/2009...
- Ruchit Garg
Robert: yes. its the easiest hack to employ
- Melanie Reed
Or there's a business requirement . e.g. Customers inquire about policies based on what they've read in the news and impose requirements on their partners.
- Darren
If you need cross-platform then I'd look at http://www.keepassx.org
- Jerry Schuman
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- Mark
Unfortunately most companies don't change passwords until they have too, the IT department doesn't want to deal with the calls when someone can't remember there password.
- Kim Landwehr
my 14 character alphanumeric pass for my gmail account was hacked about 2mo ago. After fixing, Ive gone and changed all passes; & none of them are of the same ilk. my twitter account is the simplest; cause i care less if its hacked.
- clarke thomas
The best thing to happen to corporate security was the public insecurity of Microsoft software int the late part of the 90s and earlier in the decade.
- Darren
I use Roboform Password Manager to navigate and automatically login to websites using complex passwords: http://www.eenmanierom.nl/wachtwo... (Dutch post but Google Translate is nearby).
- Patrick Mackaaij
a lot, I hope.....
- Alex Griffiths
FTR, I use Keepass (hosted on sourceforge).
- coldbrew
I had to this week my XBL account was hacked.
- Dylan Richardson
I had to change everything and cancel 2 cards.
- Dylan Richardson
I use GRC to gen and never use anything less than 20 chars unless the site doesn't support that length. Sometimes I use the first 20 in a 64 bit key, sometimes I use the last 20, sometimes I pick the middle 20. Sometimes I use 21, 22, 23, 19 char length. I also lie on all reminder questions.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I use a hosted version of clipperz (http://clipperz.com/), totally random passwords, web accessible from anywhere and hosted on my own server.
- Justin Yost
same here, Justin. I use lastpass which generates random passwords, and has one master password, which is a very secure one.
- Tim Hoeck
A couple of months ago, my gmail was hacked. They then quickly went and changed my Itunes account over to another email and started buying iphone apps. In the about an hour and a half, that they had control over my email they spent almost $1000. Luckily they made the mistake of changing the name and language on my account. I don't use the email much anymore but g reader so I spotted it....
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- Rasmus Lauridsen
for years, private corporate systems have had security measures like password strength policies for a domain, password age policies, secure connection requirements, logon policies that deny multiple logons, locking out user accounts after multiple password failures, etc. etc. etc. this incident with Twitter is a huge wake-up call.
- Karim
What first caught my eye was this article was written by Nik Cubrilovic. I had wondered what had happened to him, and hoped everything was well with him.
- Lloyd Budd
Yeah, Nik was in the TechCrunch office when I was there the other day. I figured a big story was underway cause Arrington told me to stop wasting Nik's time and to go bug the interns. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Making an awesomely strong password wouldn't have prevented this attack. It was using the same awesomely strong password that made the attack possible. And who hasn't done that? There's just too many apps that require passwords out there.
- marziah
I typically use KeePass to generate as strong a password as I can. I try to keep passwords to a minimum of 20 characters and use letters, numbers and symbols...some sites allow this some do not. If there is a password character max I will use that max (within reason). The problem I have is with some of the accounts I want to be able to access from my Blackberry. Having a 50 character...
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- Sean Brady
I use RoboForm to create all my passwords. I have them backed up and honestly couldn't type one out if I tried, they all are 14-16 chars long
- George Handlin
+1 George. A good pw generator like RoboForm or 1password can save you a lot of grief later on.
- Bill Sodeman
interesting experiment, make accounts at free websites and have really awful passwords and see how long it takes to get hacked!
- Mark
I agree with Sean Brady, makes it tough entering on the blackberry. Especially how sometimes it will cap the first character and when it's masked, makes it even tougher. Wish there was something I could host on my own server that would work with all my machines (Win/Mac) and my phones. I don't like the idea of storing on some hosted service. Thinking of trying RoboForms hosted service since they are trusted and I've gained personal trust for the application.
- George Handlin
It makes me anxious not knowing my password is for a particular site... so I've always been wary of things like 1password or roboform. I also need something that I can pull up from any computer, which rules out 1password. I've heard good things about supergenpass
- Mark Philpot
Take a look at Clipperz then, if you can get to the internet you can get to Clipperz (http://www.clipperz.com/)
- Justin Yost
Justin - @jtyost2 - I just checked out www.clipperz.com for the password mgmt, looks promising, but wish there were better integration w/ Firefox somehow. It's pretty cumbersome to get started.
- Alex Schleber
Yeah that is a drawback.
- Justin Yost
thanks 4 reminder should do it now arrgh!! as we speak!!
- polou/indigo_bow
Robert due to all the virus issues we went to a more secured password format 3 months ago. We use a minimum of 8 characters numbers letter and mixed case password plus you can not use your name. We force our users to change their passwords every 3 months.
- Rob Cairns
I think for a security policy to be effective it has to be secret...
- Alexandros Georgiadis
KeePass (Win) and KeePassX (cross platform) is excellennt! Strong public encryption and publicly available source code. I would love to go with LastPass, they have a beautiful cross platform syncing solution, but since they are closed source (for now) I'm holding off switching to their product.
- Daniel Chow
I stopped using the same password years ago. To help me keep up with the various passwords, I have been using KeePass on Windows, Windows Mobile and OS X for several years; I'm waiting for iKeePass to become available.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
http://www.yubico.com/home... for hardware PW protection, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US... FireFox addon LastPass is for software app, https://www.grc.com/passwor... for GRC's ultra High Security (put it on a usb flash and copy paste), http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008... geeks know everything!
- Rich Weaver
Yep the 'ecosystem' is undoubtedly insecure. I believe this type of hacking also has elements of social engineering to it. I dislike the "secret questions" as today when most people's personal information is transparent online what purpose do those questions serve, except to weaken security? Can we please opt out of dumb security questions... someone start a petition or something!
- ASKJDOG
Great Post, I learned more about improving my security in 15 minutes than I would have at a 2 day seminar. :)
- Robert Higgins
I hope the lasting legacy of twittergate is better security thanks to articles like this one.
- Stephen Mack
I use http://passwordmaker.org/ for most of my password, it means I only need to remember a single password and it generates a unique password for each site I use (by hashing my password with the url). For the remaining sites, I use http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/ and dropbox to sync my password database across machines.
- Wilka Hudson
I see many people using/recommending password generator sites. I also recommend these, but one day I thought - what if the password generators are hacked? --> http://robotterror.com/site...
- Robert J Taylor
Password Maker (the first link) isn't just a password generator site - I use it as a FireFox plugin. It's also open source, so if you're really unsure about the safety of it you can have a look at the code yourself. I realise that's not a very good answer for an non-coders, but it does mean that if it was hacked *somebody* would notice and it would be all over blogs like Bruce Schneier http://www.schneier.com/blog/
- Wilka Hudson
Also, for you those of using Firefox - you should look at this: http://cubicledenizen.blogspot.com/2008...
- Wilka Hudson
I think unless we develop somethig better than passwords we will never fix the problem. Using different strong passwords is good but it's no better than locking a cycle up outside a store, they just ensure that only dedicated people hack your acount/steal your cycle, which in general are the worst people to hack your account.
- Darren Rollett
Some people on here have informed the world what their password policy is and what tool they use to generate passwords. If this had been a conversation down the pub then probably not a problem but if I want information on high value passwords FriendFeed would probably be the place to go due to the people who use the system.
- Darren Rollett
Nobody has mentioned https://mashedlife.com - it uses a bookmarklet to log you into your sites. That way you can use anything for the password. Cliperz looks like a similar system.
- Daniel Siva
Seesmic's Web Offering Is the Best Twitter Browser Interface Yet - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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Has anyone else tried it yet? I might give it a spin later.
- Tyson Key
I tried it and love it.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
Tyson, I have tried it. :) What I would love to see next is the ability to log in to FriendFeed and see lists flow by in each column. That would be very interesting.
- Louis Gray
Well, it's certainly ambitious in scope, but a basic requirement for me is decent scrolling - something that, on my macbook at least, other clients such as Tweetie and Nambu have no problem with.Yeah, I know, they don't cover Facebook updates, but I find I'm adequately catered to on that score by..well, Facebook. Maybe the dodgy scrolling thing is an AIR issue - I plead ignorance there - but it means, at least for me, that Seesmic falls at the first hurdle..
- Andy Connell
the collapsed threads "gmail" type view is pretty hard to read IMO
- Bill Kinney
Re my previous comment - sorry, you're talking about the browser-based version, not the AIR app.. although I just tried it, and it still scrolls like a dog. Can't really understand how people put up with that..
- Andy Connell
Looks pretty good so far. Only two minor gripes that I've seen with it - no obvious way to view various statistics (e.g. Followers/Following/Posts) although that might be related to API limits, and no obvious way to delete Tweets with errors in them. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, or just not looking in the right places though.
- Tyson Key
does it sync across computers yet?
- Keith - @tsudo
Looks great, I'm just not interested in any twitter app that takes over my whole screen. Probably the reason I love tweetie.
- Ted Roden
Andy, I agree with you about the scrolling in the AIR app. If it's any consolation, Tweetdeck has the same problem. I've tried the browser interface and love it. For the time being it's replaced even Tweetie for Mac, which has been pretty unbeatable up until now. Lemon, you mouse over pictures or usernames to see the basic information you're looking for. Click on usernames to get a full profile.
- John Ladd
Ted, their desktop app can now be reduced to a single column view that takes up very little space.
- Jimminy Fuller
Tried it, but doesn't support multiple Twitter accounts yet. That's a shame! I would really like a solid browser interface to get rid of AIR.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I wish the web version would sync with the groups set up on the AIR app. Also, I was hoping v0.4 would make it easier to add people to groups (e.g. using checkboxes like Tweetdeck)
- Andre P. Siregar
Andre: Ditto!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I really liked the web interface. The only problem is that I could not post anything while on a eeePC 701 (7" inch screen), the update button was off to the right where I could not click it, other than that, I'll be using it all the time..
- John Serra
Loving the Web app...specially since I don't need to use Air anymore. Since most of us live in the browser anyway, I don't know why anyone would mind to leave a Seesmic tab open all the time or use it for heavy Tweeting action and just post updates from other apps like Digsby.
- Manuel Mas
Yep Louis- Seemsic with it's new web app is now THEE twitter app, in my opinion.
- Jim Connolly
Will have to try it out though about the taking over of the whole screen why not Use Ubuntu or a Linux variant that offers multiple workspaces, that way if it takes up a whole workspace it would not matter because you can have other processes running in other windows, or try #Prism, however you approach it.
- Ubuntu101
I think both PeopleBrowsr and Hootsuite beta is way better.
- Svartling
Lateral scrolling in Seesmic Web feels very slow compared to Peoplebrowsr.
- Sean McBride
Louis said: "Seesmic has done more than just clone its Desktop version in the browser. The new service has a new feature that collapses updates into a single line, looking like the headline-only version of Gmail or Google Reader, essentially letting you see more updates than ever before in one place." Isn't it obvious that Friendfeed should provide an option for something like this?
- Sean McBride
@Louis: I agree with the FriendFeed comment you made above. That's my main reason for not interacting in FF quite as much, bc I feel tethered to the FriendFeed site. I just want to find one client that works across all my social media--in a good way--without my having to think about it.
- Lynne d Johnson
we will continue to improve it daily, it's much easier to iterate on a web based version than ship updates
- Loic Le Meur
Okay guys, which knot do you tie when you knot your tie?
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I'm a four-in-hand man, myself.
- Kevin Fox
Windsor
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Same here, Kevin
- Derrick
Windsor
- Hiro Asari
Tie? Okay, I prefer the Shell but always forget how and do the Four in Hand.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Half Windsor/Windsor depending on the tie/shirt combo....
- Ross Miller
Looks like four-in-hand
- Neal Krummell
Always a Windsor
- Parth Awasthi
I'm a 1/2 Windsor
- jamar78
Four Hand
- Steve C
Half Windsor
- Alex Scoble
i usually do a four-in-hand. i think you need a longer tie to do the other three
- Alfredo
Windsor, but only on Sundays.
- Josh Haley
Alfredo: Just start with a shorter tail. Most ties are the same length.
- Ross Miller
No tie. Ever. Cuts off circulation to brain. :-)
- Piaw Na
Windsor
- Alex Scrivener
I'm of the House of Four-in-hand.
- Micah Wittman
half Windsor.
- Andrew C
Double Windsor here
- Rasmus Lauridsen
four in hand
- chrisofspades
I know I'm not a guy, but I do wear ties sometimes. I go for the Half Windsor for casual looks. The 4 in Hand for a more formal look.
- Admiral Anika
I always use Four in Hand, but the blokes in our London office seem to feel that is uncouth and anything but a Windsor is unacceptable.
- Christopher A. Wichura
Pretty sure I do a Windsor, but I don't wear ties very often.
- Jordan Hofker
Used to be Four in Hand (I actually thought it was a Half Windsor until just now) but then I learnt how to do a Windsor a few years ago, so I always do that now. Never seen the Shell before. That looks pretty interesting…
- Tony Ruscoe
from fftogo
When I do it myself, four in hand. When a lady is doing it for me, usually a windsor.
- Beau Liening
I think Four In Hand. Never think about it though. Would you believe once I started wearing ties again, I just googled "How to Tie A Tie"? So... I've done it the way that video said ever since. :)
- Louis Gray
Four In Hand
- Jeff
Four-in-hand
- Steve Lowe
Half Windsor unless it's a really long tie and then Windsor.
- Stephen Mack
Full Windsor with the "news caster dimple" in the center
- Christian (Simply X)
Half Windsor is what I learned from my dad. If I'm tired or my wife, Windsor.
- Edward Craddock
Half Windsor.
- Mark H
4 in hand. It's what my dad taught me.
- Bill Scherer
Four in hand. Had to think about this. Haven't worn a tie in ages.
- Hutch Carpenter
Windsor
- Vlado Handziski
half
- Marco
half I think... I always forget and play around with knots until it works.
- Dario Gomez
Looks like I do four-in-hand, though I never knew that's what it was called before. I never liked the fat look of the full-windsor.
- Cyrus Lendvay
Full Windsor always.
- Benjamin Golub
Four-in-hand.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Windsor
- alieb
Four in Hand :) I think it's the easiest!
- Ahmed Magdy (Pr0fess0rX)
I didn't know there was more than one way?!?!?!
- Julianne
Maybe Four in Hand, but I'm not sure my knots match any of those.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
4 In Hand or Half-Windsor. 4 in Hand is most versatile, but some of my shirts require the Half-Windsor because the collar is so wide. I need to learn some more knots though...
- Chrimmus Tad
from fftogo
four in hand.
- motownmutt
Full windsor baby.
- Michael Leggett
Four-in-hand, although I had no idea how it was called. I'll play around with the other ones the next time I'm going to wear a tie -- some of my ties are too long, and the four-in-hand knot is often slightly uneven.
- Tudor Bosman
from email
Clip?
- Giraffes Up In The AIr
Windsor. If you master it, it's the most professional looking knot.
- Jason Huebel
Time to learn a new knot!
- Daniel Krech
Four in hand, but the windsor definitely looks better. I do half-windsor on occasion
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Shell knot for me. It looks almost as good as a full windsor but leaves enough length for us longer torso'd gentlemen.
- Antonio Yon
Only one choice, he Windsor. My Dad taught it to me as a kid and I'll teach it to my kids.
- Mark Edwards
Windsor.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Half windsor
- Bryan R. Adams
Four in Hand and Windsor. The Windsor is classic, but the Four in Hand allows for a near-perfect dimple under the knot.
- O.Shane
I've never been wearing a tie. And I probably will never do so.
- Ton Zijp
Four-in-hand. Windsor knot way too "Dress for success" "Johnny Carson" bulky for me.
- John Craft
four-in-hand.
- Nine
Half-Winsor, but my beard usually covers the knot.
- Robert Hafer
Four-in-hand
- Andy Dustman
Generally a four-in-hand but I like a good windsor.
- Aaron Hood
Why on earth would you willingly put this noose around your own neck?
- DGentry
I like ties.
- Jason Huebel
four in hand. but i haven't worn a tie since 2005 and that was for a handful of interviews.
- Joe Silence
half windsor
- Steve
Windsor, best dimple, most symmetric, least anemic
- Bill de hÓra
depends on the tie, half-windsor if the fabric is thin and the four in hand looks wimpy
- Louis Simoneau
Four-in-Hand
- Mitch
Half Windsor.
- Brandon
What? No one uses a clip-on?
- Morton Fox
I am relieved to know that the four-in-hand is a legit tie knot. I always felt a little embarrassed thinking I didn't know the "real" way to knot a tie.
- invariant - farewell FF
Windsor.
- Kevykev
I know exactly what you mean invariant
- Mitch
Four in hand. Everything else is a waste of time. And annoying when you have to start over...
- Steve Lacey
Four in hand here also
- Joe Dawson
Four in hand.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Depends on tie and collar. Windsor or half Windsor.
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
I an with Jeff it depends on the collar and the tie and also the event.
- John Cooper
from fftogo
Windsor is symmetric, but I can only handle Four in Hand. Fortunately I'm not a man.
- Burcu Dogan
Half Windsor for me please.
- Emilio_M
Windsor
- Rodfather
The full Windsor knot is just too bulky for anything but the best silk ties. At school I was lazy and wore a four-hand knot, but on the rare occasions that I sport a tie now it's the half-Windsor
- Slappy Line
I see that I invented Windsor by myself(i.e. none showed me but I knot windsor). Four in hand is the most popular style in Turkey btw.
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
four in hand ...quickest easiest n still has a sexy dimple
- viki saigal
Windsor, it's the only one I know
- Richard Lawler
Windsor
- Daniel W. Crompton
Half Windsor
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
At last something practical I could use! lol
- Kevin J Hatton
Half-Windsor or Four-In-Hand depending on the shirt and the width of the tie.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
(OT) Friendfeed do need a poll feature
- Jérôme Flipo
I ran the Men's Furnishings area at Robinson's (when there was a JW Robinson's) and men would call have us pick 5 shirts and 5 ties to go with a couple suits for a week long business trip. Almost everyone of them asked that we tie the tie and put it on the shirt so they could loosen it - and wear it without re-tieing the tie! My knot of choice? Half Windsor!
- Robyn Hawk
Windsor.
- Steven Perez
Half Windsor
- Threepwood
Windsor
- Phill Price
Half-Windsor
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
learned to do a four in hand myself after watching someone else do it. However, I detest ties - horrible things. Was forced to wear one thru school and when I started work. After the 4th time I caught it under my knee while crawling under desks I refused to wear one. When I did one of my vertical slice episodes last month where I dressed up as the spy from TF2 was the first time I had worn a tie since about 2002. No time for them soul sappers. Next up, abolition of the suit! ;)
- alphaxion
Actually, after looking at this again, I do the Full Windsor
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Can you help teach a class in real time? Right now you are on the screen. Can you teach me everything about "leadership?" Help here:
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Feel free to point to blogs, videos, or other things.
- Robert Scoble
Hello Y'all
- Kreg Steppe
Where do you want it, in the comments?
- Ton Zijp
www.whitehouse.org :)
- Stephanie Segel
hell NO.. too much noise !!
- Peter Dawson
Don't tell people how to do things, tell them what to do and let them surprise you with their results. -George S. Patton
- Ross Miller
Define Leadership: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Kreg Steppe
HBR : Ten Fatal Flaws That Derail Leaders http://hbr.harvardbusiness.org/2009...
- David Peacock
or would that be www.whitehouse.gov -- dammit :(
- Stephanie Segel
Leadership means taking risks, calculated or otherwise, and being willing to either fail or succeed, but to learn in any case. For many, social media's risky--and that's exactly why you may find leaders here.
- dontgetcaught
"I'm going to do something I never do; give a direct order." Captain Hawkeye Pierce, M*A*S*H
- Dan Messer
WIKIPEDIA about leadership ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Qbat
desmond tutu on leadership - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Netbooknews
Peter Drucker's books are a good go-to for a start...
- Helene
The Art of War (on Google Book Search): http://books.google.com/books...
- Josette Torres
If you have to say you're a leader, you probably aren't.
- Ladybug Heather
Ok so which thread do you want us in? Leadership means trusting the people who work for you to be good at what they do. And getting out of their way and letting them do it!
- Ken Camp
658.4092
- Dan Messer
Best leadership quotes: http://houseofquotes.com/quotes... Because saying something is more important than actually doing it ;)
- Carlton Prest
A leader is a dealer in hope. Napoleon Bonaparte
- Stephanie Segel
VIDEO - Seth Godin Explains Why You Need a Tribe -> http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Qbat
Leadership is practice what you belive in..courage to stand up in hard times.. and the will to make a difference !! ..
- Peter Dawson
Leaders know when to sit in the passenger seat and button the lip. Leaders empower others rather then themselves.
- Vincent Lowe
Ken: this thread. This is awesome.
- Robert Scoble
How long do you plan to run this class for? 10 years? Leadership is not taught, it's learnt.
- thomasrdotorg
thomasrdotorg: this thread goes forever. The physical class is for the next 50 minutes, though.
- Robert Scoble
Let the students run the class.
- Carlton Prest
A leader is someone who allows his people to do what they need to do, stay out of the way, protect them from interference and let them shine.
- Steve C
Carlton: you're running the class!!!!!
- Robert Scoble
I haven't had this much fun in a class since I skipped history classes in high school....
- Stephanie Segel
Great idea for a thread but the best I could do would be post a reading list... Leadership is such a deep subject... Siddhartha, 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership, How to Win Friends and Influence People, Fierce Conversations... it could go on forever.
- SAM
I remember someone from Pixar did a great speech on Leadership for TED not long ago. I can't seem to find the link.
- DocileWalnut
Napoleon Hill wrote that these are the major attributes required to be a successful leader 1. UNWAVERING COURAGE 2. SELF-CONTROL 3. A KEEN SENSE OF JUSTICE 4. DEFINITENESS OF DECISION 5. DEFINITENESS OF PLANS 6. THE HABIT OF DOING MORE THAN PAID FOR 7. A PLEASING PERSONALITY 8. SYMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING 9. MASTERY OF DETAIL 10. WILLINGNESS TO ASSUME FULL RESPONSIBILITY 11. COOPERATION
- Dave Amphlett
Leadership: Don't fake it, people smell fear
- Dave Hodson
Listen and take good notes!
- Mark Layton
Being a leader is very different from being a manager.
- Ladybug Heather
Leadership also means trusting yourself. No wavering or waffling. A leader doesn't flip flop
- Ken Camp
Leadership is standing up for what you think is right, and leading the way in that effort
- Jesse Stay
open source leadershi p via joi ito :)- http://joi.ito.com/archive...
- Peter Dawson
A leader does not command respect or demand respect, he earns respect.
- Aron Michalski
"Leading Minds" by Howard Gardner: http://www.amazon.com/Leading...
- Fred Yankowski
Compassion.
- Kenley Neufeld
I can show it to you http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Lee
Larson, anything by Seth Godon is just brilliant
- Shawn Hickman
Leadership - when you post a question on friendfeed and hundreds reply in several minutes. For free. :D
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
I am trying to think of a way to tie the Darth Vader Corset featuring boobs into the leadership conversation.
- Steve C
This is real, real time - watching the number of comments from 0 to 41, 42..43 44 45
- Ashu Joshi
Join Toastmasters
- Prolific Programmer
Leadership is influence.
- SAM
http://www.amazon.com/gp... Good book. cheap too
- Manuel Arroyo
"A successful leader seeks and accepts responsibility and accountability"- http://www.scribd.com/doc...
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Leaders ask, listen, then decide...a lot like social media best practices. Maybe the technology's helping us catch up to where we should be. So let me ask: what do *you* think leadership is?
- dontgetcaught
on the Jack welsh style :)- http://peterdawson.blogspot.com/2007...
- Peter Dawson
Leadership lessons from Ulysses S. Grant
- Manuel Arroyo
good leaders listen and realize that good ideas can come from anywhere and anyone.
- Sara DelektaGalligan
The picture says a thousand words, but a caption helps: http://www.mos95b.com/New...
- Carlton Prest
teach people correct principles and let them govern themselves
- Jan Dawson
agree with Sara
- Manuel Arroyo
Be decisive
- Shakeel Mahate
Asking the right question at the right time and listening for the answer.
- Aron Michalski
To unleash creativity, sometimes you need to be ready to lead from behind
- Sameer
do not be afraid to make decisions
- Manuel Arroyo
Building a Dream: The Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy: http://www.imdb.com/title...
- Ton Zijp
Leadership: doing something no one else does...showing the way. Showing the possibilities. Paying attention. Engaging, reciprocal conversations.
- Sheryl
Today I read a tweet in Dutch which translates to: "Power is not a good reason to lead: a good leader creates leaders, not followers".
- Patrick Mackaaij
"The Art and Science of Leadership:" http://www.nwlink.com/~doncla...
- Carlton Prest
A different way to learn about leadership is to read Memoirs of Hadrian, a novel by French writer Marguerite Yourcenar about the life and death of Roman Emperor Hadrian. http://www.amazon.com/Memoirs...
- Paul Rodriguez
Define a leader with Google Search: Just type this in the search field: define:leader
- Qbat
The Purpose of Pedegogy - http://elgg.net/vinall...
- Peter Dawson
And like Sheryl said. She said showing the way. I like lighting the way. Shine a light in the dark scary cavern, then lead your team into the dark and out the other side. Lead by risk, by example, by doing.
- Ken Camp
Hello class: “A leader is one who knows the way, goes the way, and shows the way.” Ohh, and you should bare in mind - Popularity is not leadership.
- Nir Ben Yona
Henry Ford once said "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said 'A faster horse'." So try something dumb or unexpected at least once in a while.
- DocileWalnut
Best book I've read on leadership: http://www.amazon.com/Leaders...
- Tim Costantino
Robert, are you putting this up on Kyte?
- Manuel Arroyo
A good team makes a good leader. Without a good team leadership is nothing but herding cats.
- Dilip Dand
Leadership = Responsibility.
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Hi Class. I taught a few leadership classes at U of Arizona
- Jeff
Learn from the mistakes of others, what you should not do as a leader - you cannot be partial to some, or have favorites, you cannot intimidate, you cannot lie
- Shakeel Mahate
I disagree with the "waffling" comment. A good leader continues to consider new points of view and isn't afraid to say, "I've reconsidered."
- Vincent Lowe
"A very generic concept of leadership is that of directly or indirectly influencing others, by means of authority, formal or informal, or by personal attributes, to act in accordance with one's intent or shared purpose" - same ref as my last
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
The Manager's Cheat Sheet: 101 Common-Sense Rules for Leadershttp://www.insidecrm.com/feature...
- Ton Zijp
Leadership: Having the best BS detector in the room. Even if the room is expanding and expanding... like this one...
- Mark Zip
"If you're dumb, surround yourself with smart people. If you're smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you." Issac Jaffe on SportsNight
- Andy Roth
If you aren't the lead sled dog, the scenery never changes!
- Jim Tierney
according to Carol Bartz of Yahoo, it involves "███████ drop-kicking people's █████ to ███████ Mars"
- Karim
"A leader takes people where they want to go. A great leader takes people where they don't necessarily want to go, but ought to be." -Rosalynn Carter
- Leanno Software
oh I 4got to like this thought tapestry.. this is actuall open source cull point.. Scobles is da man !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
Sorry, I'm not doing video, didn't have a video compatible ccomputer.
- Robert Scoble
Leadership is Michael Arrington whining about the lack of a decent tablet device. Then making his own, and making it look really fantastic.
- Carlton Prest
How does a company get Leaders in management positions? and why doesn't it happen more often?
- Steve C
Monday Morning Leadership was also a decent book http://www.amazon.com/Monday-...
- Manuel Arroyo
@Sasha it's more ... Leadership = seeking out and accepting Responsibility
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Leadership is the art of getting someone else to do something you want done because he wants to do it. - Dwight D.Eisenhower
- Eric Logan
Recognize your own support organization. Leaders are made by the teams that they lead. And borkien by failing to acknowledge that. Never forget that you are the leader "for now". It's not an appointment forever.
- Ken Camp
To lead you have to fight the urge to run when things are scary. If they're scary, that's exactly what you need to do. You grow by trying new things. Complacency achieves nothing.
- Sheryl
Listen voraciously, speak cautiously, invest in others before asking for something in return, don't assume influence - build it, maintain vision, back it with understanding and knowledge, and continually focus on being the best most creative and humble person you can be. Then try to get others to do it all with you.
- SAM
Here http://bit.ly/IRqOk - real time "leadership" on the net :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
at this 2:38am all I can say, what my teacher once told me, take the responsibilities and don't be afraid of them, help people by showing the right way of doing things
- Hameedullah Khan
In case we're in a techy mood, Steve Jobs once said that "“Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower.”
- Nir Ben Yona
When you scream, tell, me to do something be sure you tell me exactly what to do or you may find you get what you asked for. rough paraphrase of Neil Young (as heard on PBS earlier today)
- Angela E. Taylor
One thing I will say is people use the word leadership when they should be using the word management. It is more than a skill set it is a developmental process.
- Jeff
@Capn' One-Eye ☠ - agree :) Btw, this is better than http://www.ask500people.com/!
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Leadership and management are NOT the same. Large companies have far more leaders who are not managers.
- Ken Camp
well said @Hameedullah Khan
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
@Carlton , wth was that about leadership and Mike A ? thats Total BS !!
- Peter Dawson
management can be taught, leadership cannot.
- Sherri
Leadership is knowing your team, their passions, and treating every employee, customer, partner with the respect and dignity they deserve as human beings, regardless of their position, status, tenure, success and failure. Leadership is being able to admit when you're wrong and accepting the consequences.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Just read 'The Prince' leaders are defined by their victories; even companies its the same; once they win in a major market its hard to move to a new style of victory.
- James Watters
@Sherri - leadership can be cultivated.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
If your looking for bullet points the John Wooden Leadership Pyramid is a pretty good place to start: http://www.entrepreneur.com/managem...
- Bill Rawlinson
@Peter, the man wanted a decent tablet device. Instead of whining about it constantly, he decided to make his own. It's called initiative, and all good leaders have it.
- Carlton Prest
@Sasha - agreed!
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Great Leadership doesn't boast. It doesn't need to. It's almost palpable.
- Sheryl
@Capn' One-Eye - yes, but only if the seeds are there.
- Sherri
Leadership theories in MS-Word format http://www.snc.edu/lsi...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
+10 Sheryl!
- Ken Camp
@Sherri - yes that's true
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
hey scoble! thanks for using social media to change the world!
- Jason Pollock
Top 100 Leadership Blogs http://www.bestuniversities.com/blog...
- Eric Logan
To Sheryl's point, if you have to ask who the leader is, there isn't one.
- Ken Camp
I believe Leadership can be learned, by observing a good leader. I think this counts as leadership can be taught to those willing to learn.
- Steve C
Are the people at this conference impressed with your social media prowess yet? i hope so!
- Jason Pollock
An answer I posted on StackOverflow about leadership in tech - before I had an account - http://stackoverflow.com/questio...
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
I seen on a t-shirt that said "if you're not the lead dog, the view never changes"
- Jason
Leadership comes from people who have a clear vision of what they want and then they go out and get it.
- Jason Pollock
+1 sheryl
- mehdi
As a starting point I'd want my class to read and try to appreciate Machiavelli's "The Prince" within the context in which he lived: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Rick Bucich
Leadership comes from the dude with the biggest camera lens.
- Jason Pollock
A leader does not have to ask to be followed. A leader is one who people want to follow.
- Dilip Dand
@ Rick Bucich; The Prince is just about all you need to understand about leadership
- James Watters
http://psychology.about.com/library... helps to identify "your" leadership style
- Nicholas James
hey nobody brought up knowledge at Wharton - series :)- http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/categor...
- Peter Dawson
Leadership is a cloudy concept because people confuse the art of being followed, with the art of directing followers well.
- James Watters
And leadership is similar to Fonzie teaching Richie Cunningham how to face down a bully. You have to have actually hit one at some point. Leaders are NOT afraid to step on toes. They don't walk on eggshells.
- Ken Camp
Leadership Rocks: http://www.shop.slustore.com/images...
- Ton Zijp
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Lead Follow or get out of the way!
- DivemasterDoug
My answer on StackOverflow is the green one ;)
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Woodrow Wilson said: The ear of the leader must ring with the voices of the people. - In other words, in order to lead you must pay attention to those around you.
- Sheryl
leadership comes from people who take a chance when everyone else thinks they are crazy.. like the characters of my new feature film.. The Youngest Candidate, http://theyoungestcandidate.com
- Jason Pollock
http://www.nwlink.com/~Doncla... is you want to throw in a bit a business studies theories
- Nicholas James
best read of middle eastern leadership :)- Dubai Media Deputy CEO Najla Al-Awadhi: Empowering Others through Information
- Peter Dawson
The ability to move and direct people to a certain destination.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Leaders don't just post links or quotes
- James Watters
oppyss heres the linky for my previous comment http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article...
- Peter Dawson
Leaders don't need social networks either, James...
- Ton Zijp
@ Peter Dawson; don't you think empowerment is slightly separate from leadership?
- James Watters
Ton: Zuckerberg is a leader...he needs Facebook ;)
- Nicholas James
Leaders may not need social networks, but they use any tool available as a weapon to win.
- Ken Camp
I believe everyone is a leader to some degree... it's not a definition but an innate part of being human and being involved in society. Like a sense of humor... everyone has one, even if you can't detect it from the jokes you're telling.
- SAM
@James, no its part of being a leader. empowering others !
- Peter Dawson
This exercise has proven a rare breed of leadership - realizing when those around can add incredible value and letting them take center stage. This is a very tough lesson for most leaders to master, but it's illustrated quite well here!
- Tom Parnell
Nicholas, Zuckerberg needs money to be a leader. ;-)
- Ton Zijp
Leaders don't waste time being critical of others. It's to their benefit to raise their groups morale, not pull it down.
- Sheryl
General Petraeus at Harvard ROTC comissioning: "“1st, lead by example. If you lean forward in the foxhole, your troopers will too.”" http://www.julescrittenden.com/2009...
- Charles Fenwick
A leader who empowers others will never say it in those words. Thatn's a manager delegating power's phrase, not a leader's words.
- Ken Camp
@Ton; I'm not the leader in this case, scoble is, I'm just in the rank and file
- James Watters
Interesting, the student is very silent. Is he listening or has ADD :)
- Dilip Dand
Mental toughness. No one can lead without being criticized or without facing discouragement.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
A leader listens
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Robert, are the students commenting also btw?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
@James, most leader empower their team and then get the hell out of way so the team can run the race. they (the leader) are there only to remove the hurdles.. most CEO are chief Hurdle removers !!
- Peter Dawson
A truly great Leader can lead with his mouth shut.
- Sheryl
+1 Peter. Good point. Remove obstacles.
- Ken Camp
Ton: Facebook isn't profitable yet ;)
- Nicholas James
people browser is awesome
- rich price
I maintain that leadership is just the art of being followed; management is what comes after
- James Watters
Scoble, you mind if I sell this thread to Franklin Covey or John Maxwell?
- SAM
Nicholas: so Zuckerberg is not a leader yet, one could say.
- Ton Zijp
A leader gives credit when contributions are made, understanding that perceptions vary among the collective intelligence.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
We are here posting for Scoble because he was one of the first big victors in corporate blogging; case in point; we arent posting for a also ran; being followed stems from victories and conquests always has
- James Watters
@Scott, only if you give the $$$ to the SickKids foundation :)- LOL
- Peter Dawson
Ton: He's the CEO of Facebook of course he is a leader - he's a leader to his employees
- Nicholas James
Interesting that so many people are posting "traits" of a leader - only one portion of leadership.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Michele, there were lots of leaders who didn't listen, but they still lead. They should've, but they didn't.
- Ton Zijp
Some Good Leadership blogs: http://www.leadershipnow.com/leading... and http://stevefarber.com/ and http://www.leadershipturn.com/ and http://www.jimestill.com/
- Nicholas James
@LPH - hey yeah traits are better, after all Hitler was a leader too !! let not forget that .. likewise Pol Pot, Stalin and a host of others.. there is the dark side of leadership too !
- Peter Dawson
Leadership is about being genuine, and enabling others to achieve their full potential with your guidance. It's the capability to deliver and achieve while compelling others to do so as well.
- Louis Gray
@ Louis Gray; -1 squishy
- James Watters
Louis - Agree. Authenticity is a huge part of leadership.
- Ken Camp
++1 Louis Gray !
- Peter Dawson
Nicholas: but maybe Zuckerberg is being lead too (not that I totally agree with what I'm saying myself, but I like questions ;-)).
- Ton Zijp
A genuine person without a victory will not be followed
- James Watters
Also good leaders utilize all the different types of leadership styles depending upon the situation.
- Nicholas James
Peter - yes - I was meaning traits is only one theory about leaders. Followers are just as important - as are circumstances - as are so many other factors.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Ton, you are correct. Bad leadership desires a thread of it's own.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Leadership is optimistic! :)
- Sheryl
Great leaders need to adapt and change based upon the objectives, needs of group members, and situational factors.
- Nicholas James
http://www.leadershipjot.com/ - Thoughts, suggestions, and tips to improve leadership.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Leadership is listening to all the input from your advisors, then throwing out the crap and not kowtowing to curry favor with your own people too.
- Ken Camp
http://www.siliconangle.com/ver2... post responding to gap between social and business leadership traits
- James Watters
apparently leadership = speaking in cliché’s
- Jeff
The Leadership Challenge from Jim Kouzes and Barry Posner (suggesting leadership is a learned behavior) http://www.leadershipchallenge.com/WileyCD...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
@Jeff +10
- James Watters
Jeff: talking about leadership is talking in cliché's?
- Ton Zijp
don't be a turd. Bosses are normally turds. Leaders are people that lead first by doing and teach you how to do it the right way without being overbearing or conceded.
- Zach Scott
When wolves fight for pack leader they don't fight to the death or great injury; just till the moment they know who would win
- James Watters
A leader also needs to inspire the team and motivate them to fulfil the tasks required
- Nicholas James
It's worth noting (if it hasn't been already) that great leadership involves setbacks almost by necessity. It's how those loses are learned from and adapted that differentiate how well individuals move forward.
- Rick Bucich
Leadership is not about directing followers, rather it's about influence; acting in a way that others find useful, interesting and engaging.
- Marcia Conner
@ Marcia +1 distinguishing between influence and management; thank you!
- James Watters
The best leaders I've seen are wise enough to surround themselves with very smart people. Smarter than the leader in many cases.
- Kevin C. Tofel
If the students aren't interacting, this is like listening to 300 lecturers at once.
- Bruce Lewis
+ Bruce
- Todd Hoff
Did I miss someone posting about transactional leadership? People are motivated by reward and punishment.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
@ Bruce; yes and since no one can clearly win for best lecture there is no leader
- James Watters
Kevin - Agreed, but that doesn't imply a leader should always blindly listen to them.
- Ken Camp
LPH: Depends if they are Theory X or Theory Y workers.
- Nicholas James
Theory X - only concerned by financial incentives. Theory Y - concerned with being praise and recognition. They need different leadership styles accordingly.
- Nicholas James
Robert: I feel like a guinea pig. What are you teaching the students about this? :)
- Sheryl
Nicholas: Yes - McGregor's ideas -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Sheryl; I believe his hope was more about the human search and link engine than our personal thoughts
- James Watters
Sheryl: He's REALLY teaching them how knowledgeable the FriendFeed users are ;)
- Nicholas James
Thus, they'll join FriendFeed when they get home tonight incase its banned at their school ;)
- Nicholas James
did i make it to the screen
- rich price
I'm spent. l8tr
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
In a healthy environment motivation comes from within (not reward/punishment). We need people who think & act, not retrieve & salivate.
- Marcia Conner
Don't be afraid to make mistakes... or own up to them.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
[adjusts monocle] ja, ja, but reward & punishment in ein hierarchy is der basis of der Führerprinzip ("leader principle"). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... a TRUE LEADER demands ABSOLUTE OBEDIENCE from those below him. you Amerikaners are so soft.... [swats riding crop into palm]
- Karim
Well, one thing you could teach is that geeks have a short attention span. Over half an hour and we move on....
- Sheryl
Karim - Are you channeling Werner Klemperer? It sounds like Col. Klink is in the house. lol
- Ken Camp
glad @marciamarcia pointed me to this. when I've led, I've followed 2 principles: 1) Shunryu Suzuki's principle of control: the best way to control a person is not to try to control, but to watch, and give them lots of space and 2) peer pressure. a person follows me as a leader because the group wants to and the person wants the acceptance of the group
- Lou Clark
lol Ken http://www.angelfire.com/pa...
- Karim
way 2 go, robert!
- Adri Munier
Leading without being in charge: http://www.slideshare.net/selenam...
- Michael R. Bernstein
Many of these comments are about a top down leadership style. Leaders are not only at the top they are throughout the entire organization. If you are going to study leadership read about real leadership theories, not the 7 things, or the 10 principals of what ever. I recommend the leaders companion by Wren. Great complication of Leadership authors.
- Jeff
Jeff, do the principles that effect good leadership change when you're doing it from the head of the pack as opposed to within?
- SAM
Kouzes & Posner are the best foundation ever. 5 practices - their pentathlon: inspire, challenge, model, encourage, enable. Can't beat 'em. www.theleadershipchallenge.com
- Dan Mulhern
I think as a leader you are always growing and changing. As you move up your skills will continue to develop and get better.
- Jeff
What is the purpose of the class - why do you want to learn everything about leadership? Is it to improve the participants leadership skills or just to tickle their curiosity? If you really want your class to improve their abilities to lead, you need to put them in a position where they do lead. People learn from what they do. So go ahead and give each participant (or group of participants) a challenge: lead us out of this crisis!
- Olavur Ellefsen
Jeff: +1 you make a great point. A person does not have to be a top dog, so to speak, to be a leader. Leaders come in all shapes and sizes. (Statuses too)
- Sheryl
WOW. The class was blown away by seeing this happen in real time. THANK YOU!!!!
- Robert Scoble
Robert: How many in the class already use FF?
- Sheryl
Sheryl: only a couple.
- Robert Scoble
I would love to stay here longer, but I have a presentation in 20 min. Sorry If I did not respond to any comments. Robert, I hope the class had fun!
- Jeff
are you looking to train a new leader or just come up with metrics for identification, Mr Scoble?
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
Robert: And how many will be on FF tomorrow? Show of hands?
- Ken Camp
Robert: WOW! That's amazing! We can still teach those young whippersnappers a thing or two! WOOHOO! :)
- Sheryl
And was there somebody to film them being blown away? :-)
- Ton Zijp
What an amazing accumulation of thoughts and links to pursue. Thanks for mentioning it on Twitter.
- Violet Bliss Dietz
Never try to lead people. It doesn't work. Better off building and guiding a team. If you can organize a team that works well together, you'll spend less time trying to hold the team together and more of your energy guiding them and being productive. Treat every team member with respect. If you don't listen to them, they will not listen to you. Keep your ego and temper in check. It...
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- April Russo (app103)
Leader listens to everyone but when he/she speaks everyone listens.
- ashish
Leadership & personal development often go together. I'm inspired by @BrianKlemmer & http://klemmer.com. Repetition & Experience are best ways to remember & learn. Leadership is a choice and an ongoing way of life.
- Courtney Engle
Leaders who inspire me have the knowledge: "If I can see further than anyone else, it is only because I am standing on the shoulders of giants" Newton, etc. do not pop up in blogs much, but it seems the game changers know exactly who to thank.
- E-Advocate Network
Stupid is as stupid does.
- sime0n
What Only the CEO Can Do A,G. Lafley http://hbr.harvardbusiness.org/2009...
- Jorge Barba
“Leaders are visionaries with a poorly developed sense of fear and no concept of the odds against them.”
- Jorge Barba
Gary Hamel: How to Tell If You're a Natural Leader http://blogs.wsj.com/managem...
- Jorge Barba
I'm sure this is mostly finished by now. However, I thought I'd add that the Horatio Hornblower novel series, by C.S. Forester is a wonderful lesson in leadership. I believe that the series is required reading at at least one of the US's military academies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Trevor Carpenter
Google Wave is among the coolest, most exciting products I've played with online. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009.... Just announced at Google I/O and developers there will get access soon. Public access, alas, months away.
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If only I were a developer. I want to play with that.
- Mark Gardner
Does this supersede all other social & communication projects @ Google? Bunch of solutions (gReader sharing, FriendConnect) going away fro Wave?
- Ruud Hein
Interesting Adam. Will have to look at this more closely.
- Hutch Carpenter
Anyone got some good 3rd party writeups on Wave yet? It sounds like it's right up my alley and I'd love to know more.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Daniel www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/28/google-wave-drips-with-ambition-can-it-fulfill-googles-grand-web-vision/
- Ruud Hein
Ruud... I don't know, and couldn't tell you if I did know :o. Hutch, there's certainly enough coverage to check out now :D! Not sure if the demo video's been released, but the demo got massive applause here at the 'plex and earned a standing ovation at Google I/O, so the minute a video's available online, go watch it :-). Daniel, you might want to check out this page on Google Code: http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2009...
- Adam Lasnik
Thx Ruud! Adam - my office blocks Blogspot still so I'll have to figure out a way to read that later.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
gah! bad office, bad office! Oh, and everyone... sign up to be on the waiting list to try this out: https://services.google.com/fb... :)
- Adam Lasnik
signed up!
- BeeLing
Got my name on the list.
- Chris Gardner
That's not waiting list, that's let me know when it's ready list
- Amiroo ™
I've got 99 GMail invites if anyone wants one ;)
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
I can't wait for the public release. This just looks too cool.
- marziah
This may really change the way of we communicate.. Looking forward the public release!
- Jacque
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- Rochelle
GO YOU SHUTTLE
- Akiva Moskovitz
thank god!
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