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I really do like Google Buzz.
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Sorry FriendFeed but I do. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Well it's got one feature that I've always wanted in FF, the @replies. It doesn't appear to work all the time but it's bloody useful when it does.
- Kol Tregaskes
What's wrong with FF's DM feature? Functions the same way. Oh, except not inline in replies, the thread has to start out being To the person.
- Stephen Mack
But that's a DM, it's not a reply to a specific user inside a public thread.
- Kol Tregaskes
Stephen, yep.
- Kol Tregaskes
LOL.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thomas Hawk, Louis Gray and Kol seem to be the biggest Buzz supporters from the FF crowd so far. That's the great thing about the world, everyone can have their own preferences. But Buzz frustrated me too much, I'm giving it a 60-day timeout.
- Stephen Mack
A supporter yes. A full-time converted user, no. Need groups/rooms and filters.
- Kol Tregaskes
It's barely a 1.0 product. If you like FriendFeed, Buzz makes sense. But FriendFeed is more customized and polished.
- Louis Gray
Louis, agree but I would say that Buzz has more potential for the obvious reasons. So it's something for the future.
- Kol Tregaskes
FF will not be improved unfortunately, not unless FB sell the product to someone who can develop it. FB don't seem to have the desire to put the FF team back on it. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Agree on the Groups/Rooms and Filters. The similarities to FF make you wish to see them in Buzz but enjoying Buzz a lot
- David W
I love Buzz but I still think that FriendFeed is better, more powerful, and much easier to use - (not to mention the great community here too) ;]
- Chris Loft
Buzz by David Westron from Google Reader - http://www.google.com/buzz...
Saves you a trip - "Give us 56 seconds and we will give you the show..." Not able to attend Macworld Expo ‘10? This 56 second video shows you aren’t missing much. - CrunchGear - Macworld Expo 2010 is currently going on and, well, we don’t have anyone on the show floor. It didn’t really make sense to send a crew to cover the conference now that Apple isn’t headlining the...
- David W
Buzz by David Westron from Google Reader - http://www.google.com/buzz...
Interesting article - looks like the era of the Chinese striding ahead is looking more likely. From a UK/European viewpoint be interesting to see if Europe will hook up with another spacefaring country to deliver space exploration in the next couple of decades... Which Country Will Be The Next To Put An Astronaut On The Moon? - io9 - President Obama's 2011 budget cut NASA's Constellation program, his predecessor's plan to return humans to the Moon, en route to Mars. With the US government apparently out of the race to return to the Moon, who will now be next? As Buzz Aldrin once so famously observed, "Second comes right after first." The Apollo program was a remarkable achievement - it was arguably the single greatest feat...
- David W
Buzz by David Westron from Google Reader - http://www.google.com/buzz...
Was Bill Gates ever going to say anything different? Bill Gates Unimpressed by the iPad - The Apple Blog - Bill Gates, in case you thought otherwise, is a genius. He really, really is. Not only was he building a software company at a time when no one believed software had a meaningful future, but his vision of “a computer on every desk and in every home” was nothing short of crazy hugely ambitious. Even so, geniuses do get things wrong sometimes. In an interview with BNET’s Brent Schlender, he sugg...
- David W
Buzz by David Westron from Buzz - http://www.google.com/buzz...
Post comments on a Louis Gray Buzz For some reason everytime I try to post a comment on one of Louis's many (and interesting) Buzzes (is that the plural?) - I get the following stark red message: Oops, there was an error posting your comment. Please try again in a few seconds but i can post to other people's buzz... very odd
- David W
Buzz by David Westron from Google Reader - http://www.google.com/buzz...
Great - nice to see quick turnaround in integrating Feedly (my preferred reader) into the whole Buzz thing :) Feedly + Google Buzz + Conversations - Building Feedly - Google announced today a new service called Buzz – a tool to help people share things and organize their social experience. We did some tests and Feedly integrates out of the box will Google Buzz: If you go to your feedly and share an article, you will see it appear within seconds in your Buzz stream (powered by Google Reader and PubSubHubbub). Update: One more thing. As part of 2.x.198, w...
- David W
Buzz by David Westron from Buzz - http://www.google.com/buzz...
Auto Translate Google Buzz I notice that I have people following me who are posting in other languages - it would be cool if you could indicate that someone you follow would have their Buzz auto-translated to English or to whatever your native tongue was?
- David W
Buzz by David Westron from Buzz - http://www.google.com/buzz...
Google Buzz is operational at last on my Gmail a/c - be interesting to see how this develops. I suppose you need to go find some followers with interesting things to say (a la Friendfeed) and take it from there...
- David W
Buzz by David Westron from Mobile - http://www.google.com/buzz...
Google Buzz - seems faster this morning on the Iphone - better 3G signal in the City
- David W
What is your day job? Be as brief or in depth as you would like.
Rah-PM 2012, Mona Nomura, Morgan and 27 other people liked this
Product/Project Manager for a company called Carmanah.
- Jon-Paul Bussoli
Elderly grad student and open source contributor. Don't know if I can call either of those jobs though :)
- Michael C. Harris
Manager of IT Project Management for Nelnet Enrollment Solutions (CUnet.com office in Rochester, NY). Primary work involves "IT Infrastructure Integration" management of all projects for http://CUnet.com and http://Petersons.com = FUN! Also, I am the VP of Information Technology for http://PMIRochester.org
- Susan Beebe
Batman. Oh, day job. Web Developer.
- Hao Chen
IT manager for a graphic design company.
- Mark Trapp
Web, Graphic, & Print Designer, and Web Video Editor for http://www.americansafetycouncil.com - and also co-founder and designer of http://www.flickchart.com
- Nathan Chase
Training Manager, b5media
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
CEO, Nichenet Pty Ltd...which really means Editor, The Inquisitr, as I haven't done a consulting gig in maybe 4 years
- Duncan Riley
Advisory Software Specialist (just what the heck does that mean) at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in NYC.
- Kevin Shannon
Bit manipulator
- Drew
pixel pusher
- sean percival
Senior Systems Engineer, Solutions Center (Software AG Inc.)
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
It's like a rollcall. Heh.
- Robert Sanzalone
RN ICU
- Irene Katz
Blogger for b5media, Cell Phone Signal, and set up websites for businesses. Also a junior in high school.
- Zach Flauaus
Senior managing editor at a medical certification board
- Linda Mills
Web Developer at http://www.wego.com which is a travel meta search engine. My current project is to build an analytics application for internal use, analogous to Google Analytics. Right now, I program mainly with Ruby.
- Winston Teo
programmer in startup + research student :)
- David Petar Novakovic
from twhirl
M.O.M.
- Melissa Davis
from twhirl
offically it is online services coordinator at http://slwa.wa.gov.au but I introduce myself as the web geek
- Nick Cowie
from twhirl
web designer
- Andrew Smith
I run a blog network called Gear Live.
- Andru Edwards
Software Engineer
- iTad
Director of Technology, Navstar, inc and IC Rockstar ;)
- Andrea Baker
Product Manager at a software company
- Mike Doeff
sitting at a desk pretending to work, going to meetings, and wishing my work had meaning (see also "Dilbert")
- Kevin L
Run a product development/manufacturing/ideation company in Greater China. No lead allowed even in the pencils.
- Mark Forman
Critiquing Mike Frutcher's blog and shares
- Charlie Anzman
Independent Game Developer/ College Sophomore - the two fit together nicely :P
- Sean Dunn
I help large government organizations figure out how to spend taxpayer money on technology.
- Chris Hollander
VP, Marketing at Caring.com, Online Marketing, SEO/SEM Strategist and Tactician.
- AJ Kohn
Tug boat.
- Akiva
Online Giving Manager, Give Kids The World (Kissimmee, FL)
- John Frost
Student and sometimes a journalist
- Timo Heuer
Like the world doesn't know by now: I am the King of Antarctica
- Dan Kaplan
Freelance developer / animator
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
Retired Business Analyst and small business owner.
- Russellreno
Senior Executive in High Tech
- Stephen Terlizzi
Designer/Developer at Vertigo
- Alan Le
3 Weeks of Serving Fried Food. Nope.. not much of a job for a 14 year old
- Tyler (Chacha)
from twhirl
Creative arts academic
- Kate Foy
Old media reporter, New media bridge-builder, student of both computer and legal code.
- Andrew Feinberg
Web Producer for The X PRIZE Foundation. I basically manage all of their web properties (mostly on Drupal) as well as 3rd party web services.
- Mark Krynsky
LinkedIn gives it all away: http://www.linkedin.com/in...
- Louis Gray
Business Analyst.
- Parth Awasthi
I work doing software support for Barclays small business!
- Joe Dawson
breathing. It's a full time job
- Mona Nomura
Product Manager for Digital Asset Management and Social Collaboration at http://www.day.com/
- Lars Trieloff
Louis' idea is the easiest: http://www.vincedegeorge.com
- Vince DeGeorge
Thanks for participating everyone.
- Mike Fruchter
Mike - This is a great resource for discovering new contacts.
- Russellreno
Russel for sure, It's very interesting to see what our fellow Friendfeeders do in there day job. A great thread for meetting new contacts as well, definitely agree.
- Mike Fruchter
Quite a low-profile one but very interesting nevertheless: http://14sandwiches.com/about/
- Martin Bryant
Formerly, a social media specialist at google. Currently, enjoying an extended summer vacation and hoping when I'm 80 years old I'm still not calling myself an ex-googler.
- Ginger Makela Riker
Local Govt IT Advisor
- David W
Pharma and biotech marketing consultant, science and cancer geek
- Sally Church
@Charlie "Critiquing Mike Frutcher's blog and shares " Your salary just increased!
- Mike Fruchter
low-level fraud detection job at a very large bank. I might link this to my earlier lamentations about this job... here's that link http://friendfeed.com/e... feel free to add more to that, though I did get plenty of good feedback back then.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Garbage Man, Brooklyn New York - work the Greenpoint-Lorimer route. Ok, kidding, but I wanted to break up the monotony of design/tech jobs;) I'm a Creative Director at an interactive advertising/marketing agency.
- Steve Isaacs
currently - grassroots public affairs
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
[gasp] kamilah! i do something kind of similar! :D
- edythe
systems architect; currently building appliction systems unifying disparate data for law enforcement. yes, I fight crime!
- RAPatton
retired
- Michael W. May
In between at the moment. But normally personal / executive secretary, Any one need an assistant? Flunkie? or slave?
- Adrienne Van Houten
Director of communications and public affairs at Rockefeller University (hey, @Kevin Shannon: We're neighbors!)
- Joe Bonner
VP, Marketing and Product for Caring.com. On some days I also do some consulting through Blind Five Year Old (http://www.blindfiveyearold.com)
- AJ Kohn
WOW, this blast from the past is back
- Mike Fruchter
Since this posting I have changed jobs. Currently I'm Director of Digital Strategy at Pierson Grant Public Relations.
- Mike Fruchter
I build relationships through technology
- Jesse Stay
Or, more accurate: I build technology that builds relationships
- Jesse Stay
Risk analyst in Compliance Management group of financial services company...deal mainly with PCI DSS
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I work for the man.
- Morgan
Underpaid Bureaucrat
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I'm doing social media and content crap for a pretty big company - blogging as a hobby for a pretty huge network. Word.
- Mona Nomura
Voice over actor, performance trainer
- Kate Foy
David Byrne: Kindle DRM means "you are f*cked" - http://www.boingboing.net/2009...
We do seem to be reaching a tipping point with ebooks and the ereaders out there - the next several months could see some new players like Apple in the frame but the issue for a lot of us will be how flexible will these systems be - some of the copyright/DRM options might make a lot of us wary about forking out for a ereader if it means our book library is locked into one solution...
- David W
FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Not All Socialist Countries are Alike - http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009...
John T. Lucas Jr, Iván Abrego, Peter Hoffmann and 39 other people liked this
"See? They're actually pretty different!"
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
I've been saying all I want is the ability to buy into the same health care plan the congress gets
- Sean Reiser
We tried to hire a Radiologist from Canada, sadly most are not board certified. Curious if we will now require less regulations if we go to Universal HC?
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
it's also known as "public private initiatives" here in the UK - private companies bid for governmental contracts to provide the services, billed to the government. The problem is that the private companies that win the services are there for the profit and so provide a piss poor level of service for the highest price possible. It gets even muddier when you look at the PPI system used...
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- alphaxion
They're not that different. They are both nationalized healthcare systems. I lived in the UK for a couple of years. I have friends who love the NHS because it's simply there and provides a decent, basic level of service. I've also had people I know suffer and die because of sub-standard care (a tumor was misdiagnosed as a dragonfly bite). Nationalizing healthcare is not the silver bullet.
- Justin Whittaker
Most folks are not looking for a silver bullet. Right now, they'd be happy with plain ol' lead, as opposed to the blanks they have now.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I think alphaxion has the right idea. Nonprofits, not for-profit corporations. The latter corrupt the system.
- Dennis Jernberg
Single payer advocates sometimes overstate the case, and I'm probably just as guilty of it as anyone. It's definitely not a silver bullet, just a vast improvement over the current clusterfuck of a system. I've never heard a UK or Canada horror story that compares to some of the more common disasters in the US. Misdiagnoses happen everywhere, as does delays in treatment. But I've never...
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- Eric P
I like the analogies. Single-payer is analogous to Medicare. National Health Care is analogous to the VA. Yeah, they're pretty different.
- Victor Ganata
aye, you won't hear people from the UK extol how the NHS is the pinnacle of health care and there's nothing wrong at all because, at the end of the day no system will ever be perfect - well, except in the minds of the really patriotic ;). But, for the majority of issues I'm glad it is here because without it I'd prolly have a dead sister (genetic retinablastoma) and a bankrupt me with...
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- alphaxion
I don't think anyone who has ever had significant dealings with the health care system in the U.S. really thinks everything is OK, but I guess some people in this country are so afraid of any change, they're willing to sabotage themselves to try and prevent it from happening.
- Victor Ganata
That's the killer for me. How, especially if you've had ANY experience fighting with insurance companies, can one possibly argue that what we have now is better than something new?
- Steven Perez
from IM
This is one of the reasons why I am harsh in my comments to those people who are against UHC. Yes, I hope they lose their job, their house and their health insurance (and I don't mean it as viciously as it sounds), because only then will they find out that having UHC is actually a far better deal. If there's nothing wrong and you can afford your insurance premiums all is wine and roses,...
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- Rene, Pro Button Pusher
@rene This is a point I raised with a few of the anti-UHC people on FF... Those who can afford healthcare won't ever see anything other than a bill for other peoples care until that access is stripped from them. These people don't get that health is a social issue and as such should be addressed in the same manner as other social items - I don't hear them bitching about paying for other people to use the police or roads...
- alphaxion
I'm from the UK and pay for private health insurance to keep me out of the NHS's filthy hospitals. I dunno, food is pretty important for survival, and look what happens when the government provides that (famine).Seems to me there are two issues: basic ongoing health care, which could be provided pretty cheaply privately for a monthly fee and which wouldn't kill you if you couldn't...
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- Rob Fisher
There are all sorts of issues with getting a random scan for no good reason other than you just felt like it. It's really not a rational use of limited resources, but it is, I suppose, a good way to make a lot of money off of people who don't know any better. Full body scans for cash are totally available in the U.S. They tend to find lots of things that are abnormal, and then you end...
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- Victor Ganata
The commenter Harold over there ( http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009... ) is also correct that 'eh?' is more of an Ontario thing than a nation-wide thing. The More You Know {NBC chimes}
- Andrew C (✓)
Whilst I've never been treated in the US I would say you could compare the treatment I got when I had Guillian Barre Syndrome (http://www.gbs.org.uk) to the treatment people I have talked to get in the US via their HMO. I got given 16 bottles of immunoglobulin at about $8000 a bottle. Intensive Care for 3 months, and full physio until I could walk etc on my own again. My friend in the...
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- Paul Bainbridge
There appears to be an attitude by some (usually within the cosy protection of full Insurance) displaying a Scrooge-like view ("Are there are not still Workhouses?") that they shouldnt have to support those less fortunate than themselves - the NHS is a great institution in the UK which whilst not perfect offers Universal Health Care and one that the UK should fiercely defend and support.
- David W
Looks promising - Foundation Trilogy to be turned into movies
- David W
Microsoft pulls cheap Windows 7 after just two days on sale - http://vista.blorge.com/2009...
I got my order in with Amazon UK in time :)
- David W
just started playing World of Warcraft. http://raptr.com/ricin
I started to play WOW in 2005 and still have an account but not really actively playing at the moment
- David W
nickreynolds: Prohibited by O2 from upgrading to new 3GS iPhone until next June :( But hey, just in time for next year's new iPhone! :/ - http://twitter.com/nickrey...
The annoying problem is that when you are due for an upgrade from O2 next June you go for the Iphone 2010 model and youre stuck then in an 18month contract with Apple releasing new phone on a 12 month cycle. You are then always skipping one version of the iphone because your contract precludes it :(
- David W
O2 UK iPhone 3G S pricing, plans revealed | iPhonefreak - http://www.iphonefreak.com/2009...
I see that O2 have now clarified the options available for existing Iphone 3G users - stay where you are; buy a Pay & Go phone and use your existing sim or Buy out your contract (usually 6 months)... I am not sure I want to enter into a long contract with O2 again so tactically I think I will have to wait until June next year to see if the Iphone 2010 is compelling enough to upgrade and even then will probably go Pay & Go to avoid taking out a long contract.
- David W
from Bookmarklet
@answers Are you going to buy the new iPhone 3G S? Why or why not? M$1
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I would if I didn't just switch to ATT in January.
- Richard Leiter
I got my 3G in September, so I'm not sure what my options are for upgrade. But if it's $399 for the 3GS, I'll buy one.
- Paul Ring
Not with the current 3G upgrade path.
- Ben Newton
I will definitely be buying one,I have a first generation iphone and have been holding out for this day.
- Lee
Yep I am upgrading to the 32GB one!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
I am very much considering it, but money's tight! :|
- Geoff Schultz {TF}
No, as it would cost me way too much now as I bought the 3G a year ago. Disappointed. :(
- Steve de Mena
Nope, mid contract and way too much for the upgrade
- Tom Searing
from twhirl
yes, but waiting for the Jul 11 anniversary when I bought it to make the switch. otherwise iphone 3G S will cost too much
- Ernie Oporto
from twhirl
Nope, because AT&T's non-qualified upgrade is too harsh. If I could upgrade the 3G I bought in January for $199, then I might consider it.
- Jandy
Nope. The UK upgrade path is crazy for current 3G owners. :(
- Aaron Dyer
from Alert Thingy
yes absolutely. i am still using the original iPhone, which I have to say still works great for being two years old. I didn't see that much of an advantage to upgrading when the first 3G came out, but now there seems to be enough new features that it makes it worth it.
- Jennifer
@Jandy AT&T's upgrade policy is no different than any other cell carrier's policy, in making you wait 2 years before upgrading for a greatly reduced price. I am excited that they're subsidizing at all actually; when I bought my original iPhone there wasn't any subsidizing and I paid full-price *and* was locked into a 2-year contract. If you ask me, their policy now is a lot better than it was then.
- Jennifer
Just got my 3G for work going to try to upgrade. Not to fussed though.
- Jason Remnant
I would buy it now if I was upgrade eligible. Oh well, gotta wait until December. We'll see if it is a big deal. Personally I wouldn't want 3Gers to comfy, and get 'em while the upgrade itch is hot.
- sailorj
No because they aren't available with Verizon :(
- Adam Martin
No. Will wait for the next iphone when my two year contract comes up for renewal. iPhone 3GS features and price are not worth it for me.
- Carlos
Yes. I have a first gen iPhone, the better battery life, autofocus camera, video, gps and compass are enough & being faster also
- Shannon Clark
No. Like many others, I'm mid contract. I'd pay $299 for the update, but not $399 or $499 depending on the model.
- Michael Groner
upgrade price not worth it for features i get with quickpwn
- Tyler Gillies
from email
Tyler - you are just flat out wrong. A jailbroken iPhone won't have: autofocus camera (of higher quality), builtin compass, be ready for next gen data networks (up to 7mps), have a faster processor & better battery. I'm upgrading from a 1st gen so the diff is big if I had a 3G it might be closer
- Shannon Clark
i was mostly using hyperbole. those features just aren't worth the upgrade price to me.
- Tyler Gillies
Just checked, I have to wait until February. Aarrrgh!
- Paul Ring
Not available on my provider, another year on contract. Also starting a new job, so will probably get a company mobile (Crackberry). So probably not getting one any time soon.
- David Wright
from twhirl
Data plans for AT&T are still keeping me from getting into smartphone craze...yet I may be cheap.
- Manuel Mas
Here in the UK if you have the existing Iphone 3G you probably have at least 6 months of contract to run - bit of a rollercoaster - June 19th then damn January 2010 :(
- David W
Still no pricing here. T-Mobile haven't updated their tariffs, you can arrange to be notified on the 19th though... :-S
- David Wright
from twhirl
I preordered a 3GS last night from the online apple store. I still have a first ten phone, so thankfully I qualified for the lower pricing.
- Beau Liening
Yes, but when I can get the subsidized price (December)
- Martin Johnson
definitely not before the contract renewal is possible and who knows how I will feel about it then..
- David W
Probably not. iPhone 2g still works great for me.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
@Jennifer, I know, and I agree that the initial iPhone customers got screwed, too. But just because it's an industry standard doesn't mean I have to agree with it or like it. I haven't jailbroken because I was hoping to get a new handset with video support, but I may jailbreak instead in the meantime and pick up the new handset when my contract is up.
- Jandy
Planning to!! Features that are going to stay for a while from now. The problem in India is the price tag (31 & 36 grands). Looking forward to get one from the US. But then AT&T sucks there :O
- Praveen Vasudev
I setup a POLL for this topic at http://www.s-consulting.no/polls... Let me see the stats!
- Frode Stenstrøm
No - bad working out by o2 with regard to current 3g owners and the length of their contracts. I'm guessing they know hardcore Apple fans will buy out the remainder of their contract to get the new phone. That, I'm not going to do. I don't have £464 upfront to end my current contract and purchase the new handset.
- Charley M
It is really irritating me how much people are complaining about this. No one cared about their 2 year contract when the only thing to look forward to was a $30 flip phone. Maybe contracts are a dumb idea but that's the way it is. Get over it. You just received a subsidized phone a year ago. What makes you think you deserve one every single year? It's nothing that they're doing to...
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- Jennifer
already brought 16G 3Gs set for delivery purchased it as soon as the Apple store opened back up
- Kim Landwehr
In 6 months or so. O2 have the same idiotic plan as AT&T. It would cost me a fortune to cancel and then sign a new contract.
- Roberto Bonini
Yes, my Blackberry/Verizon contract is up, and I've heard people love At&T so I'm switching.
- Greg Birch
@Greg Birch - pls tell me you're kidding.
- John Fogarty
from twhirl
Yes, but It's like having to choose a contract with the Mafia, Yakuza or the Triads. Eventually you're going to lose an appendage.
- Greg Birch
that's a very accurate description. As long as you realize that AT&T = Yakuza. :)
- John Fogarty
from twhirl
I can dial without a pinky...
- Greg Birch
Nope. I just purchased my 3G in November. I'll wait and see what Apple comes up with in the next 18 months to replace mine when my contract expires.
- Bryan Clark
Nope---happy with my 3g.
- Kelly W.
AT&T sucks, and I am not willing to allow Apple to decide what applications can be put on my phone
- Chad Albert
I like AT&T but, I sure don't like their iPhone plan. Might get me a G1 or another HTC product that will take android.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Unfortunately, I just bought two iPhone 3Gs....so I'm going to wait a while. It seems every time I purchase an Apple product, they drop the price soon thereafter. Which is okay -- since I'm willing to overpay for Apple products but not pay discount for anything Microsoft at this point.
- Curt Mercadante
Nope - N97 unlocked for me. Even at ~$600 it's cheaper than the Iphone. Plus better camera, physical keyboard, FM transmitter, etc etc
- Mark Zip
I've been waiting to buy an iPhone and plan to make the 3GS my first one.
- Herb Hernandez
I just got an Android instead!
- Ric Johnson
lol loyal customer tax
- Tyler Gillies
from email
I'm getting the new iPhone 3GS because I have been delaying my buy decision for new cellphone waiting for Apple to drops it's new iPhone
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Screw you, AT&T. As a longtime iPhone user, I'll pay MORE for the 3GS than a new user? Great. #fail
JR, Anna Lynn M., anna sauce and 19 other people liked this
How many times do people need to get screwed by AT&T before they realize that that's just how they are and they aren't going to change?
- J Wynia
They are doing the same thing in the UK with O2..
- David W
most phone companies are like that, but they really went overboard with this. idiots
- Cee Bee
J - Just because they do doesn't mean we should take it quietly or NOT try to change them. Strength in numbers.
- Steve Isaacs
+1 Glen, http://www.macgasm.net/2009...
- Joshua Schnell
Glen++ I will whine about AT&T for many (MANY) other reasons, but this is not one of them.
- Mark Philpot
This is nothing new for AT&T. They have long punished existing users with inflated price for continued service (Be it, mobile/ land phone. DSL, DISH...whatever)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I don't mind staying with AT&T, and I haven't had issues with their service (aside from them keeping streaming video apps wifi only - if I'm near wifi, I usually have a computer, so wifi-only apps are fairly pointless). But why can't I sign a new two-year contact at the lower price, and they just add on the time I have left on my current contract to the end of it?
- Jandy
Glen: I don't know about anyone else, but I'd be more than happy to extend my current contract for two more years in exchange for the subsidized pricetag. If they'll play along with me, great. If not, then they *are* being idiots, and I've got every reason to complain.
- Roger Benningfield
It's business. Business profit motivation is often at odds with customer satisfaction. at&t know most iphone users are probably happy with their phones and many will want to upgrade. It makes perfect sense, at least from a bean-counter's perspective, to charge them more. Personally, i'll be dumping at&t the second the iphone is offered by other carriers.
- ·[▪_▪]·
Roger (and others), if you're willing to pay the early termination fee and then pay the new user charge, great, but what I'm hearing here and in other places is that current users want the new user price without paying for abrogating the contract they signed.
- Steve Lowe
Steve, I don't want to abrogate it, I want to add it to the new contract, creating a three-year and a bit contract from the new two-year one plus the one year and a bit I have left on my current one. At least, I'd like that as an option. Or is it an option and for some reason no one's talking about it?
- Jandy
Jandy, that's interesting, but what happens when the iPhone 4G (or whatever) comes out: do you end up with a 5- or 6-year contract with etf's running up to $500 or more? Also, you're the first person to mention adding on to their existing contract. No one else has mentioned that--that I've seen, anyway.
- Steve Lowe
IMO, this is a case of being annoyed that AT&T treats existing customers like this, but new customers get the red carpet rolled out. We don't get a reward for being loyal customers? At this point, since I don't have the money to upgrade right away anyway, I'm going to wait out the rest of my 2-year contract, however much is left, and then try to upgrade. If I still have to pay the overinflated upgrade price then, I'll be pretty pissed.
- Cheryl Jones
Cheryl, I would be too. The end-of-contract price and the new user price should be the same, I agree. And I don't know the deathstar's etf structure, but I've heard of some users who are finding it cheaper to pay up and just get a new phone.
- Steve Lowe
As far as I understand there will still be a rebate for the people with one year left of their contracts. This rebate will just be half the rebate new users get since you are only technically adding another year to your contract. If that is not logical and fair I don't know what is. If people wanted to change their phone every year and add more to it every year because a new and...
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- Rasmus Lauridsen
There should be two options for existing customers. Extend your existing contract by two years (maybe there should be a ~3 maximum contract length) and an option to prorate the discount of the phone versus the contract remaining. In other words, a two year contract is worth a certain discount on the phone so my remaining one year is worth 1/2 that discount so give me 1/2 the discount new users get and let me get the new phone. It's fair and everyone can get what they want.
- ·[▪_▪]·
I agree that AT&T is right and reasonable to set it's pricing as it does (they actually do give an extra $100 to us < 1yr 3g buyers)... but i think that that it would have been wiser for them to try something more consumer friendly. Their exclusivity won't last for too much longer and they should want to get people locked into contracts extending out as long as possible as well as building up the good will they're burning with their MMS/tethering crap.
- felix
@·[▪_▪]· They pretty much do that now although how they calculate it doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Price of a 32GB 3GS is $699 with no discount. $299 for new subscribers or those not under contract. I'm currently almost a year into my 3G 2-year contract and my price is $499. A friend of mine who just got his 3G earlier this year, can also get it for $499.
- ronin
Everytime I read "screw you" I'm hearing Leo laporte say it :).
- Roberto Bonini
As I said earlier, I'd be happy to just extend my existing contract by two years. And here's the stupid thing for AT&T... if they lose exclusivity in a year or two, they'll lose me as a customer. I'm only on AT&T for the iPhone, and would switch in a second if the opportunity arose. They should be actively seeking to lock me in, not push me into waiting.
- Roger Benningfield
@robot, yeah, that's fair. Sounds like maybe they're doing something like the 1/2 discount. I think I'll still wait till my contract's up, though (hey, by then they'll probably have another new model out).
- Jandy
fuck AT&T for trying to wring more money out of me. no interest.
- mjc
:( I took their bait 'cause I wanted my netbook *so badlee*. They do suck donkey b***s, though.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
I'm confused about all the ire. The cheap prices for new or eligible customers are specifically because the subsidies get paid out over time during the contract. But after only one year, I can get a 3GS 32GB for $299 just as if I was a new customer (it's $499 if I buy it today, under one year with my current hardware). Surely if people want new hardware more frequently than once per...
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- Tinfoil 2.0
Okay, how about this, then? How about we shift some of the blame for failing to properly manage consumer expectations to Apple? They should advertise the retail price of the hardware, not the subsidized price. Then people would be pleasantly surprised to be paying lower prices if they're eligible for a full or partial upgrade, rather than annoyed to find they're paying more than advertised.
- Jandy
+1 Jandy. There will always be a new product people want and it will come out faster than your contracts expire (subsidized or not). I don't really have a horse in this race since I got a 3G last Sept and am quite happy with it. I'll upgrade to the 3.0 OS and be happier. And when my contract expires, I might get the next version of the iPhone. Or not. If you want to be on the leading edge of technology, you have to be willing to pay the price.
- caj needs a haircut
As much as I wish prices were lowered and there was some sort of leeway on the contracts (especially for customers loyal to their carrier), well said Alan.
- Charley M
Tis true... And I did...
- JR
DEMO: Always Innovating’s Touch Book sounds amazing. Can it deliver? » VentureBeat - http://venturebeat.com/2009...
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Should be interesting especially given the claimed battery life
- David W
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Terry Pratchett gets a knighthood - http://www.boingboing.net/2009...
rowlikeagirl, Jen (SquirrelGirl) and ·[▪_▪]· liked this
I think that's wonderful. I hate that he has Alzheimer's.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
Couldn't agree more, so I'm happy for him to receive this honor.
- Matt
Well deserved - a great author
- David W
New Mac mini revealed in video? - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
Until i bought a MacBook Pro just before xmas, i was using a MacMini hooked up to my LCD TV as my principal means of surfing the net, reading friendfeed/feedly etc - a new Mac Mini with a bit more oomph could be the ticket for my surfing needs
- David W
Official: Pentagon report defends Guantanamo - http://news.yahoo.com/s...
Hmmm.... how humane is it to keep anyone locked up without the benefit of due trial and process for coming up to 8 years?
- David W
Video: iPhone on Crack - http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009...
This could be fun
- David W
SteelSeries WoW mouse dangerous in no uncertain Terms (of Use) - http://www.wowinsider.com/2009...
Got this after a lengthy pre-order in early January - the build quality is OK - does feel a bit more plasticy that I expected - the software is good and you can setup your bindings quite easily - havent used any of the advanced macro writing capability so couldnt comment on that side of things.
- David W
Mac-savvy Obama staffers frustrated with legacy White House - http://www.tuaw.com/2009...
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"President Obama's staff -- accustomed to Macs, social media, and having the latest equipment -- found Windows PCs with Microsoft Office 2003 in their new offices. Laptops were "scarce," apparently, and the team had trouble finding ways to update the redesigned White House website and add subtitles to web videos. Perhaps they were misled by the prominence of Mac hardware in the fictional-but-familiar West Wing version of the executive mansion."
- Steve Isaacs
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I read about this yesterday? or earlier today...anyhow, all works days run together....how crazy would that be? all geeked out and then BAM, you're back in the early 90's.....
- dafire
Pretty common in most large corporates - Windows because they've been running Windows since the 80s - Office 2003 because they havent got around to corporate training getting to grips with Office 2007 and of course avoid Vista because of the headaches it would provide all their 3rd party applications..
- David W
The Inauguration of President Barack Obama - The Big Picture - Boston.com - http://www.boston.com/bigpict...
Great pictures related to Obama's inauguration!
- Eugene Alvin Villar
Excellent pictures
- David W
Introducing BBC iPlayer Desktop for Mac, Linux and PC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs...
Tne BBC are being very innovative in this - got this installed on my MAC now and looking forward to the enhancements - the move from P2P to Adobe Air Looks a good one.
- David W
Opinion: SimCity for iPhone/iPod Touch is worth $9.99 - http://www.crunchgear.com/2008...
An excellent addition to the Iphone apps available..
- David W
Nice Translator - The fast, easy to use online translator - http://www.nicetranslator.com/
Cool multi-language translator
- David W
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