"True although it would be tricky to move armed workers to another country's factories without fighting your way through. It's a bit of a weird issue."
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">Your three premises are not always true. Why? >But even if they were, A here would be "deprive our enemies of 'free speech' and other resources", not "suppress anybody who disagrees with us". You're not changing anything, you simply claim that having the desire to deprive whoever you consider your enemy of free speech and other resources is acceptable. Therefore you would have to find it acceptable for the anti-semites to deprive the free speech of the Jews whom they consider their enemies. The problem is that you hate the fascists because they promote particular actions such as the above, and then consider that it's acceptable to do *the same actions* as long as it's against the fascists themselves. This does not compute. >Indeed. But the only speech left out would be that which is disliked by the vast majority. Fascist ideas will be disliked by almost everyone, and I don't see why the population should have to listen to them if they don't want to. Why should the christian majority..."
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">Sounds pretty Kantian, IMHO. It isn't because I'm not talking about axioms. I am talking about desires. And which desires one should follow come from a utilitarian perspective not a natural law. >The problem with your ethics system is that is prohibits any offensive action. Do you really believe that Revolutionary Libertarian Socialists can have a revolution without offensive tactics? Depends on what you mean by "offensive action". I promote acts such as takeovers and strikes among others which can be easily seen as an offensive. If you mean offensive in the sense of "lets take up arms and go assault the capitalists next country" then no I don't nor do I see the point in that. If you can tell me an offensive tactic you think I would not support then we can discuss it."
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">Your conclusion doesn't follow from your premise. You're only making an assertion. * If I do A, it means that I have the desire to do A. * If I have the desire to do A, it means that I consider this desire good to have (or else I would have discarded it) * If the desire to A is good to have, then anyone should be allowed to have this desire. * I do A. * Therefore anyone is allowed to have the desire to do A. >It all depends on what "legal banning" means. I can think of many ways in which banning public displays of fascism can be enforceable by the population as a whole. In this case I meant laws made by a centralized government. >What about "mutual aid" to "legally ban" fascist discourse from the public space? What would that lead to? It would lead to people considering good to publicly pressure free speech they do not like out of the public sphere. That would lead to the public feeling ok to force any majority view they are uncomfortable with to silence, therefore stiffing critical..."
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"I do not arrive at Kantian ethics. As for hacking again the same rules apply, if you do it and promote it then any system you arrive it through it will have this as a permissible act, that is, have it as morally acceptable to hack and then modify and destroy the data of people you disagree with. If you think that should be the norm, more power to you but I'd rather live in a system where such acts were not commonplace."
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"The problem is that in this setting, where belief in some deities is more possible, those who do end up being Atheists also are represented as being sort of...well, dicks. Yes it's more likely that Gods exist in the fantasy setting but Morrigan herself says that she believes in magic because she can see it and feel it but has no reason to believe in the Maker, so she's being quite rational about it. In short, my problem is that the game does seem to try to imply particular things about Atheism and what kind of personality tends to be one."
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"Really I play my character the same way but my problem is that I want to help people in distress and it makes sense absolutely to do it in sight of the long term goal but still I get disapproval from Morrigan just because I'm not acting evil enough. As for her not being evil you have a point in that she does make an excuse for acting the way she does but as I said before, this excuse for me is rather shallow. As the intelligent woman she is it should be painfully obvious that it makes sense to help people along the way when you wish to strengthen the opposition to a greater evil. Furthermore she has a very particular evil streak in her for example in the case of allowing the demon to possess the girl when freeing Shale. (btw please do not provide spoilers as I haven't gone through the whole game yet. If you haven't as well, let me know and I'll avoid it myself) In my first try, I tricked the demon and then attacked it and got disapproval. Why?! I also wouldn't call her a utilitarian..."
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"Once I get to the Dwarves I'll tell you. If they simply revere ancestors as examples to follow then they indeed do not have a religion but if they consider them in the form of patron saints or protecting spirits, then it's a religion. Note: One can be an atheist and still be religious."
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"I know, I understood that. I simply in turn wonder if one gets more xp when playing with less character or if whatever you do, the xp gains are still the same per char. For example a party of 3 chars killing a 100xp critter should get 33xp each. With 4 chars that is 25xp each. In the first case, I should level quicker while playing with 3 chars (making up for the increased difficulty)"
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"Yeah, I figured that. However I am wondering if I got more exp while I was playing with only 3 chars (i.e. did the xp get split in 3 rather than 4?)"
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"Thanks, I noticed it now after I tried again. I guess I must have passed the fourth circle as a gui decoration. I honestly don't know how I missed it. I also wonder if I got more xp for playing with 3 chars :)"
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"I got the guards (and the two initiates before them) but I assumed this was an extra for those parts as these guys died afterwards. I didn't get the dog because I clicked on Duncan before going to the kennel first (I realized only after it was too late) After that, I didn't even notice the slot for the 4rth person on the bottom :S"
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"Hey whadayaknow you were right! I just used those serial codes Steam gave me on Bioware's site and one was a promo code unlocking the Stone prisoner :)"
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"Obviously, because that wasn't for comedic effect at all. I would also had a nerd rage if I got a game totally dubbed in German and no blood as well."
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