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THE Home Office has quietly adopted a new plan to allow police across Britain routinely to hack into people’s personal computers without a warrant. The move, which follows a decision by the European Union’s council of ministers in Brussels, has angered civil liberties groups and opposition MPs. They described it as a sinister extension of the surveillance state which drives “a coach and horses” through privacy laws. The hacking is known as “remote searching”. It allows police or MI5 officers who may be hundreds of miles away to examine covertly the hard drive of someone’s PC at his home, office or hotel room.
- Leo Laporte
Don't you just wish you lived in the UK. This is one of many big brother activities this foul government is undertaking
- Nick Fletcher
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Typical of the UK to follow in the US footsteps. :P
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It's used in cases like child pornography, from what I understand. Privacy doesn't include freedom to commit crimes...
- Patricia
Patricia - They DON'T KNOW that a crime was committed they THINK one MAY HAVE BEEN. The difference is critical. You could be a suspect tomorrow... all it takes is a bad tip or a misunderstood statement. The whole "well if you aren't doing anything wrong why are you worried" argument great until it is YOU.
- Brian Roy
Patricia, I'm sure there are positive and useful applications, but I think the outcry has to do with the door being open to this happening outside that arena. @Brian exactly ... i'm fond of "innocent until proven guilty," and such policies smack of "guilty until proven innocent." not a negligible change in the legal order of operations.
- idnan
You may KILL harmless people in the fight againt child pornography, which justifies everything...
- Harmen
@idnan, you have no idea then what doors are already open....
- Patricia
You don't have to prove them guilty... just get a warrant (prove you have reasonable cause to THINK a crime is being committed). I see NO reason to remove that check from the search process.
- Brian Roy
@Patricia i expect i don't, really, because i don't live in the UK and only have a moderate awareness of UK issues. there are those who would say the existence of such open doors in no way justifies the opening of another, simply because they exist.
- idnan
Harmen, that's nonsense. Brian Roy, it may be so, but, if I'm not doing anything wrong, I have nothing to worry about. I'm not worried. I understand the concerns, but oh, if you think this is the only way your privacy is compromised online, you're in for a surprise. if anything, consumers should stop being blind and start realizing this baby's like one giant ticker tape on you and your personal business - and guard that first.
- Patricia
i have a distinct feeling we've lost our way, and find ourselves in a different discussion altogether ... but thank you for the discussion, wherever it goes.
- idnan
idnan, read up on the internet as a technology. it's not limited to the UK. the web has insane capabilities to invade your privacy - it's the platform, not the country, group, etc. - everything you do to some degree is already tracked.
- Patricia
Patricia - Of course you have something to worry about... If you didn't you'd post every bit of data you own on a public file share for everyone in the world to browse. When I use the internet I'm in "public" so of course it is a giant ticker tape... why is that shocking. What I do off the internet is MY BUSINESS. The contents of my financial files, private letters, photographs of my children, family movies, etc is private... and I have a reasonable expectation that it will remain so UNLESS someone can...
- Brian Roy
show probable cause to believe a) I've committed a crime and b) that data is proof of said crime.
- Brian Roy
@brian, several times a year my luggage is sifted through for all the public to see thanks to terrorists using the airplane system to attack our country. I'm not saying it's right or that I agree, but the reality is, very serious shit goes on via the IP platform and there has to be some way to stop people from commiting crimes. Just the same, someday you could be a criminal's victim....
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- Patricia
@Patricia i am aware of its reach, but we *were* discussing a governmental policy. you're discussing something interesting, but not what i was discussing. i'm amused by your encouragement to "read up on the internet," however. i thank you both for the discussion and a good chuckle.
- idnan
Patricia - I have been, you have no idea... so you might want to be careful with that. The MECHANISMS exist already. Get a warrant. That is all I'm saying.
- Brian Roy
@Patricia, who said, "if I'm not doing anything wrong, I have nothing to worry about." You have it backwards - if I'm not doing anything wrong, then it's none of the government's business.
- Dean Barnett
idnan, the point is, this isn't the half of what you should be worried about that the government can do is all I'm saying.
- Patricia
consider, Patricia, the difference between having your luggage searched in an airport and random closet searches in your home. now, i'm not saying the internet is equivalent, but i *am* saying that such a policy alarms people in a similar way. at some point such invasion and monitoring may be necessary ... i would ask whether this is that point, that's all.
- idnan
That's crap! If they can do that then I should be able to attempt to hack their shit just to see if I can without consequence.
- Walt Ruppar
If you read the article, it says certain criteria need to be met to be authorized to do it. Granted, that'll be abused and manipulated, but it's not like they're given full green light to do as they please. Read further and they list a bunch of other things their authorities are already able to do. My point is, you've got a lot more to be afraid of than just this.
- Patricia
This is absolutely appalling. Hacking into one's computer when not even sure a crime was commited. Inserting a keylogger into one's computer to get access to their passwords. Same thing as inserting a secret camera into a living room. Sending emails with viruses attached to snoop around. Absolutely appalling.
- John Grinde
Patricia - The only thing I'm afraid of is people who believe surrendering their freedom/rights makes them safer. "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Benjamin Franklin"
- Brian Roy
So, if I want to censor or target anyone on teh interwebz, all I have to do is report them anonymously as a Child Pr0nographer or Scarrorist, am I right?
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
@Brian, Agreed. Unfortunately, we have been giving up rights in the US at a ridiculous pace.
- Robert Miller
@Robert - To be clear Franklin is often misquoted he says "Essential Liberty" which is different than EVERY right. For Example - being taxed does not disturb my essential liberty... but it is a restraint on my liberty. Knowing the difference is vital.
- Brian Roy
This is a terrible precedent. It's also crazy because it starts a very high level hacking arms race that I'm personally extremely doubtful any "white hat" could ever win. The 4th amendment makes me feel a little better about things in the USA. The spirit of the 4th may have been broken badly during the previous administration, but we can still use it to restore our rights.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@Brian, I understand and agree. But, the article says there is still criteria that needs to be met to be able to do it. You're all implying that they can just open up the hatch and dig inside at free will. It doesn't appear that's the case. To say that this'll open up some ability to do it illegally is like saying all authorities honor the rules requiring a search warrant today.
- Patricia
@Richard, probably not. There would probably need to be some substantial data or information to enable a green light for authorities to do it I'm not niave enough to think that'll protect anybody, but i'm also not niave enough to think suddenly we're losing privacy on the web.
- Patricia
Patricia, keep in mind that the UK does not have a bill of rights.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@Patricia, sometimes in the interest of finding a guilty party, the rights we rely on to protect us are ignored by the individual(s). Without transparency, an act like this can be used to gain information illegally and then justify it after the fact.
- Robert Miller
Patricia - then what is the point. A Warrant does exactly that. The difference here is the POLICE do this without restraint. Just because a more Sr. cop has to say it is ok doesn't create a check/balance. What you are saying is the same as saying Wall St. will regulate itself because the put some "rules" in place...
- Brian Roy
Urgh, it's things like this that make me hate the UK. I've never left the country, and I've never had a passport, but I cringe at the prospects of going through the IDing process that they're slowly letting percolate in over time... :(
- Tyson Key
@Brian, I agree with what you said. I also believe my statement was a general statement about the erosion of rights in the US. Frankly, taxation never entered my view, but monitoring and invasion of privacy do bother me.
- Robert Miller
In the USA I would not be opposed to a constitutional amendment guaranteeing a right to privacy. The 4th protects us from illegal search and seizure but does not strictly prohibit (or define) invasion of privacy.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@Patricia... "probably not" is probably not good enough :) It reminds me of an Iraqi neighbor feud... with anonymous tipline... resulting in some innocents being visited at 3AM by the "coalition forces" ... no interpreter, no nod to cultural norms, just another tragic experience in the tragedy we call "the Iraq victory"
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
@Jason, an amendment guaranteeing a right to privacy is an excellent idea.
- Robert Miller
That's an interesting point Patricia raised. We all regularly undergo luggage checks at airports without reasonable cause. Most people accept that that infringement is justified because of the benefits. An anonymous remote search of my hard drive - unknown to me - is much less invasive. Serious Q here. Do you really believe the intention (as opposed to the possible effect) of this legislation is sinister? Its just I kind of grew up with people who are now standing to be MP's. At what point do they become ho
- laprensa66
@laprensa66 results of luggage checks not kept in records. "An anonymous remote search of my hard drive - unknown to me - is much less invasive" disagree STRONGLY with that.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
We have GOT to stop being so naive and quit giving up the inalienable rights I for one believe we are BORN with or history can and will repeat itself - or worse! In the U.S. police and other law enforcement and government agencies are already blatantly ignoring the documents this country was founded on. Tomorrow they might decide anyone who ever read X book or bought some innocuous item (to you but used for something you don't even know about) is a terrorist and round them (or us!) all up. Time to wake up!
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