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Zee.
Poll: Do you use Twitter SMS? (update: and if u do, why?)
not me - Jodi
me - Jesse Stay
Me don't. - Ton Zijp
nope - Kevin Whalen
nope. - Müjdat Korkmaz
never - Dean Blithe
DMs only. - LogEx
SMS is the only thing available when there is no 3G or Edge - SMS is crucial for that reason - Jesse Stay
I did. And it's the one feature I miss on identi.ca. - Andy C
I use SMS for DMs and updates when I'm away from a computer. - jbrotherlove
+1 Jesse - Zee.
Nope...can't afford it. - David Sandey from Friend Deck
I don't. I have UberTwitter. But like Jesse said, if I had a regular phone, then I would probably use it. - Shevonne
only for DMs - Dave Hodson
no. SMS posting doesn't work at Japan market - kazuhiko
Yes - Ben Hanten
Yes, no computer access at work, limited data plan, but unlimited SMS. - Rui Pereira from iPod
Just to post when I can't get tweetie to load. - tomit from iPhone
I use sms to receive DMs and sometimes to post if edge is down. - Ward Seward
I did when I didn't have a smart phone with a twitter app, and wanted to send out updates while out and about. also, mymilemarker uses twitter so you can update your gas mileage from the pump, so I used it for that. - chrisofspades
Before I had the BB, I used it all the time to post updates. Now I use UberTwitter to post but I still have select folks' updates come to me via SMS. Just easier to keep track of friends that way. - pea
As an interim to better Push Twitter apps, yes. Though why @replies don't get sent to me is a bloody mystery? >:-S - CannonGod
DMs only - Karoli
rarely - Grant Bierman
No. I use TwitterBerry on my BlackBerry and FriendFeed on my desktop. - Skyler Call
Only for @trackthis updates, since I'm not glued to my Twitter clients on 'puter or phone. - jcunwired
Once in a long while I update from my phone. Since I work at home most of the time I am just on my box. - Neal Jansons
never!!! - Igor Buhovec
Yes since I don't have web access on my cellphone. - Manuel Mas
I do. keep the 140 characters spirit that way. - lelapin
Nop, because its only one way!!! Nothing for feedback - Francisco Espinoza from BuddyFeed
No way. - Bonnie Foster
I would never use it - Mike Doeff from iPhone
I use it, yup. I get updates from my local newspaper sent via SMS and the occasional person who I find entertaining/interesting (@badbanana right now). - Mitch
Rarely. If I'm in a spot where there's nothing else to do, yes - LANjackal
No. I don't use Twitter on my phone because I'd get charged for everything. Plus a laptop keyboard wins over a phone keyboard. - Spidra Webster
no, sms is the most expensive form of communication that can be purchased i pay $5 for 200 sms msgs a month and even the $20 per month unlimited plan is a ripoff... SMS should be inlcluded in your plans... #attfail - Chris Heath
sort of. I use a free SMS API key from Zeep Mobile to send Tweets to my own web server via the Zeep Mobile shortcode. from there my Twitter OAuth credential is employed to post the tweet to Twitter, it also gets sent via OMB protocol to different servers such as army.twit.tv and identi.ca and it goes out from my site as RSS. three of these arrive at FriendFeed, which annoys everyone. - Brian Hendrickson
No need with SimplyTweet's push notifications on the iPhone. Although on very rare occasions I use SMS to update via HelloTxt. - Grey Drane from BuddyFeed
No. Not available in Sweden i think? - Svartling
No, not available in Belgium. I would have used it not to update, but to be instantly notified of @ and direct replies. Now the iPhone has push functionalities I have no longer a need for Twitter SMS in Belgium anymore. - Bart Muskala - AdNerd Sr. from twhirl
I can't. I live in Italy... :-( - Carlo Nasuti
Not since we closed Twe2.com ;) - Paul Kinlan
Nope. - Kol Tregaskes
nope - Michael
Yes and it serves as insurance in the unlikely event that I’m ever arrested or otherwise in trouble in a strange place. SMS – to SMS can be slow and unreliable between some U.S. carriers (T-Mobile to Sprint, for example) whereas SMS-to-Twitter is more reliable. Last month I was on a trackless trolley, on my way to meet a friend. When the trolley broke down, I sent an SMS-to-Twitter and at the same time sent an SMS directly to my friend. He received the Twitter message first. - A Mitchell
Cool! I suspect SMS may one day in the not-so-distant future become obsolete as everyone starts using smartphones and the statstream. - Grey Drane from IM
No. Not available in Belgium. - Walter De Vos
Leo Laporte
I still need to see this - Melissa
good / decent movie. watched it last weekend. one of the theme of the movie is "criminals with moral dilemma" - Nilesh
Hilarious - Rodfather
great flick! - Kahlil Lechelt
A friend of mine REALLY liked it. I think its in my queue. - Derrick
loved this movie. Everyone in it is amazing. - Anna Lynn M.
FUCKING BRUGES - Rob Haas
Must see movie - Deepak Singh
American tourists often asked us on the street which architect built Bruges... Euh... It's _real_, you know? - Jan Aerts
Good Movie.. - Dean Blithe
Excellent film - Jeff McNeill from twhirl
You vant ze dim-dims ? - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Good movie and very well acted. - Adi
loved this fecking film :-) - tony bland
MG Siegler
Twitter Is Down: 15 Alternative Things To Do - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Twitter Is Down: 15 Alternative Things To Do
Twitter just went down. Don’t worry, it was planned. It should only be offline for about an hour today but there’s another downtime planned for Monday as well. I’m sitting here not quite sure what do with myself, as I’m sure many of you are. So I’ll go ahead a prepare a list of alternative activities for today and Monday, in order of importance/likelihood: - MG Siegler from Bookmarklet
lol mg had this in the can, brilliant! - sean percival
16. Start the weekend early, have a beer. After an hour tweet, twitter and thank them for a long weekend!!! - Dean Blithe
I am talking to Walt Mossberg and Jimmy Wales about Twitter being down. This is the funniest TechCrunch post in quite some time! - Robert Scoble
It does seem to me that the best time to maintain one's social web site is Friday evening. - Leo Laporte
I think the best part about it ...is I can finally use friendfeed for a bit!! - AlexKaris
it forces you to really miss them. You can't really miss them during a reasonable maintenance window, say, at 4:00am. - andy halvorsen
Twitter down? I don't even notice anymore. That's a good sign. - Nick in Manila
My favorite is "Think about Twitter being down" - Veronica
Well, it seems that Twitter is on again. We just have to wait till monday for the next party. ;-) - Ton Zijp
i love the image! - John Fu
And then this morning, Australia time, friendfeed was offline due to svcolo datacenter problems. Over here in Oz, we were wondering what the friendfeed equivalent of the failwhale was. Pity Scoble's hulk picture is his normal avatar, because that would be a great failwhale equivalent. - George Hall (Australia)
So the ultra amusing thing is: while twitter was still down, FriendFeed went down So we did infact sit on Facebook wondering when the two might come back up. And whether or not it was actually Louis Gray's fault. ;-) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Kol Tregaskes
Why does your nose run and your feet smell?
I give up. Why? - Peter
Because I am sick and dirty. That's why. And stop asking personal questions. - Rahul Das
It's the swine flu. I didn't wear my mask long enough. :) - Beau Liening
Does your nose run because your feet stink? - Dean Blithe
Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
Mona Nomura
Why Windows 7 should be a free upgrade - http://www.techradar.com/news...
Why Windows 7 should be a free upgrade
It absolutely should be - especially Vista fanboys and social media evangelists like myself :-) - andy brudtkuhl
Hey Andy, did you get a Beta license for Win7? - Chris
Do you need a Beta license? - Mona Nomura from IM
@Chris - yes I do have a beta license for Win7.. Will be installing it as a virtual machine tonite to play with - andy brudtkuhl
Windows 7 is a marketing trick. Don't buy it people. - Rutger Blom
a marketing trick? how do you figure? - andy brudtkuhl
Is anyone still using Windows? ;) - Meryn Stol
I am going to go get it now (legally of course) and install it under VMWare. Now you have me curious. - Chris
Windows? Aren't they those things with glass panes in them? ;) - Tyson Key
Andy: it brings nothing new to the table. Windows has been the same since Windows 2000. What you're buying is eyecandy. - Rutger Blom
Rutger, curious. Are you a Windows user? What do you use? XP, Vista? - Kamath (नमः)
@Rutger - first off I am not buying it (I'm MSDN). Secondly there is no way you can say it's been the same since Win2k.. that's absurd. What about MediaCenter? The thing is an entertainment juggernaut. you sound like a linux fanboy :) - andy brudtkuhl
Wow, more infantile whining about Vista. And now a petulant little temper tantrum demanding Windows 7 for free? I can almost hear them snorting and stomping their little feet. People, even adults, are still spoiled little brats, aren't they? - Akiva Moskovitz
Rutger, prove it. - Akiva Moskovitz
Those that whine the most about Vista and demand free Win7 have probably never even tried or paid for it, anyway... - Jemm
Uh and inded huh. That's a crazy notion. The reason it's crazy is that if they did do that then they would never be able to charge for subsequent versions of Windows again. So in the long run they'd lose. They should, however, ditch all of this nonsense with various versions and strains of the OS. It just makes a big ol' mess. - Tadhg Kelly from twhirl
I can't agree with this. It's a pay product, everyone knows it. Vista is fully functional as well, even if the general impression is bad. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com
I use vista at work and it is just so poorly built. The 2003 AD tools don't install without having to run a script to finish off the installer, and even then many of them still don't work (DHCP admin for example). The explorer shell is a travesty (I lay a big dose of blame on indexing services), the interface for common things like share and NTFS permissions is a mountain of windows when one should do and the networking performance is piss poor for basic file management! - alphaxion
don't you understand, everything *must* be free. Business model? <mumble> <mumble> something about advertising <mumble> <mumble> Profit! - mikepk
win7 is looking like a point release. Should be free to those with the applicable license (where upgrades are free, such as enterprise VLA). However, it should be a massively reduced price for those with a full copy of windows and a legit license. - alphaxion
hahahah mikepk just leveled up - Bwana ☠
@milepk taking business lessons from the underpants gnomes again? ;) - Jason Shultz from twhirl
I upgraded a Vista machine here yesterday. It went without a hitch (took three hours or so). Everything seems to work ok so far. However, I am quite underwhelmed. It seems, perhaps, slightly faster but except for the visual changes to the task bar, I can quite forget I'm using it, instead of Vista. - Ian May
I'm using XP at work. I've tried Vista and in a corporate network environment it's a disaster. Microsoft more or less admits Vista was a flop and now is in a hurry to hype Windows 7 and make everybody forget about Vista. Windows 7 is at its best what Vista should have been. I think it stinks. By the way, I whine as much as I want to. It's called freedom of speech. Amen. - Rutger Blom
Rutger, it'd be better if your whining was actually based in facts and logic - Akiva Moskovitz
+1 DSaad69 - Shey, Jamaican of FF
It is consumer unfriendly. An OS should not take more than an hour to figure out and should not have to be set up or customized. - Mona Nomura
Akiva, it is in my world. Facts and logic you won't find much of here. Opinions and experience plenty. - Rutger Blom
oh hell, this conversation again. can't we drop this. nobody is going to change their mind and you can't convince people the error of their ways no matter how hard you try. people can't listen to reason and refuse to believe anything other then what they believe. it's a exercise in futility to keep rehashing this over and over. - Jason Shultz from twhirl
Then why do you keep participating and reading, Jason? You posted a comment earlier. Bizarre. @DSaad - that said, shouldn't Win 7 be free? - Mona Nomura
@Mona - did i mention i'm a little crazy? :P - Jason Shultz from twhirl
Hey - aren't we all, Jason? Aren't we all. ;) - Mona Nomura from IM
Interesting thread. @Rutger. Do you have any idea of the underlying changes that were made in Vista? It is a vastly superior operating system to previous versions. Unfortunately the UI lets it down. And @Mona, one of my favorite things about a new install of any OS (Mac OS included) is spending time customizing it and installing my favorite apps. Maybe I'm just a geek that way. I'd stop buying/using it if I couldn't endlessly customize it. - Kenton
I find it interesting that the interface for manipulating the NTFS metadata streams for things like Keywords, Author and Comments that's been in since Windows 2000 or so has actually been removed from Windows Vista. So much for supposedly having "enhanced metadata support". - Tyson Key
@akiva thing is, rutger is right when he's saying it's a flop in a corporate domain, the fact that their own AD management tools are borked in their latest OS is inexcusable! And as I said, something simple such as changing share and NTFS permissions is an act of annoyance as you have to traverse edit windows instead of being able to modify them from that one window! - alphaxion
@Mona ++ - Enrique Gutierrez from twhirl
Aside from the technicalities, like I said above: It is consumer unfriendly. An OS should not take more than an hour to figure out and should not have to be set up or customized. - You (edit | delete). Thus, Windows 7 upgrade should be free. - Mona Nomura from IM
I agree with everybody who says Vista wasn't all that it could have been. But it was far from botched. If it was measure from the perspective of getting converts from Mac/Linux, it failed. But it worked well enough for current windows users. An enormous amount of work went into the innards with very little and poorly directed focus on the usability. Win7 goes the other way - usability and performance is a focus. Try Win7, give it a fair chance. It's excellent as an OS. - Kamath (नमः)
And THAT is why it should be free, Kamath LOL - Mona Nomura from IM
Mona, I totally agree. Wasn't arguing about that part :). It is to Windows Vista what Snow Leopard is to Leopard - though the degree is different. - Kamath (नमः)
But in the process of re-engineering the NT kernal for things such as network presentation etc they buggered up the network stack. Set off a file transfer from one machine to another across a network comprising of 2000 small files and I'll bet you that the XP one will complete it quicker than vista. They screwed up the explorer shell, why does it take a minute to contemplate displaying its contents? Basic requirements that are borked. - alphaxion
I'm all for it being free to current Vista users. It would be a good reward for Beta testing. However I also think OS X updates should be free until 11 comes out. - Kenton
alphaxion, that bugs me too especially over wifi connections. If I remember correctly, I believe Microsoft's explanation was that it increases the fail-safety of network transfers if there were network failures during the transfers. It would still fail (time out) during longer network failures but large transfers would not be aborted due to momentary network failures. - Kamath (नमः)
it's also partly because of the packet size since it was incorrectly determining jumbo settings and a little bit of the peering protocol (network discovery, attempt at replacing WINS for CIFS, tho they still had to copp out by altering DNS for wins-like static entries and of course they still haven't fixed the issue of needing WINS for trust relationships in 2008 *rolls eyes*) - alphaxion
alphaxion, I believe they did work on network transfer performance in Windows 7. I don't know if anybody has done any benchmarks with real numbers. An unscientific benchmark was done by zdnet which seems to show dramatic improvements in performance. http://is.gd/eqTP. There are issues with other OSes too. I understand this bothers you as it does me but there are so many other usability+perf improvements that i don't let this bother me too much. - Kamath (नमः)
I've said it before, they should price it like Apple does Mac OS X upgrades. Full retail version of Windows 7 Ultimate should be no more than $120. - Bwana ☠
Won't be a problem. I'll just order a ticket to the launch event, as usual :) - Mirco
I don´t know about "free", but I must agree a bit with some of you in that I have lost most of my confidence in MS after the Vista disaster (mostly for MS themselves), the Mojave "experiment", and now the fixer-upper approach on 7. It may all just be a feeling I sit back with, but whether it´s true or not that´s a very real problem for MS´s marketing and UX departments. - Thomas Bøhm
The biggest problem (or the reason for problems) about Longhorn/Vista was project management and processes. They were forced to do the "Longhorn reset", start over from scratch after 2.5 years. That's one reason it lost many promised features and lot of development/fine tuning time. Instead of the Longhorn, they did Vista as a basis for future OSs, like the Windows 7. Fortunately processes were changed a lot, too. - Jemm
bwhahahahahaahah give it away? keep dreaming, people. - Terry O'Fee
we sadly do not live in a world where the big companies think. "you know, i feel really really bad. let's give the next one away". Microsoft does not equal Trent Reznor. - Terry O'Fee
Then why was Steven Sinofsky (Win 7 dev chief) quoted to say: "Technically if you have a Vista machine you can install this and it will install an upgrade. That's part of what we're letting people test. But that's not a product offering. This is an offer to test the product. I would remind readers that this is a beta product. This is not a done product. That means there are bugs in it... more... - Mona Nomura from IM
They could have done a free upgrade to make up for the fact they lost some trust etc..look at the IE haters lol.. and maybe had a deal where they got feedback...say a form that users filled in once a week... if not filled in, then they could probably disable it or somthing untill form sent. ;o) Imagine how much they could improve that as they went with the amount of feedback. - Rob Sellen :o)
microsoft do not owe us anything. they fucked up, granted, and vista was a mistake. they are seeing that with their "vista ready" shitfight. but let's be honest. this isn't some simple upgrade to vista, or a newer version of XP. this is a brand new operating system, of course they're going to pay. if they said "we've fixed vista and we're going to charge you 100 dollars for the privilage", i'd be pissed off. - Terry O'Fee
because "this is a test". it's not the full program. it's hardly completed. but really, if you're into that whole "everything should be free" ideal, look at ubuntu. i still have hope they can get their act together and get a decent OS running that will make MS pee themselves a little. :P - Terry O'Fee
I'm going to "like" this cause it's so funny.. - Terry O'Fee
??? We're not saying everythign should be free (at least I'm not). Look, if a consumer targeted OS takes more than an hour to learn PLUS people have to customize in order to efficiently function? No, that is a defunct product and it is NOT ok. Why do you think MSFT was giving out XP FREE to users that bought new computers and didn't want Vista? Fact: Vista is a mess. And Microsoft owes the paying customers a functional product - Windows 7. - Mona Nomura
If you want free upgrades, Linux distros such as Ubuntu or Mandriva might be good. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
WHY did they do Vista then? what was the aim over xp? I haven't used vista so dont have a VALID opnion on it.. I mentioned the free comment above in realtion to the vista users mainly.. :o) I wouldn't expect it free, though I wouldn't complain if it was... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
@Mona .. they obviously didn't read my post on that idea did they LOL :) - Steven Hodson
why did they do vista? cause they're money grabbing bastards, thats why. im still using XP myself. i'd be making a post more on "vista - i want my money back!" - Terry O'Fee
$120. I'd buy it for that. - Bwana ☠
they should offer cheaper upgrades for vista, if possible. i grant you that. - Terry O'Fee
If a consumer purchased a new computer within the last year or so, they also purchased a MSFT license for a crappy unintuitive RAM hog. WHY should they pay? Makes no sense. - Mona Nomura from IM
++++++mona! :o) I agree! - Rob Sellen :o)
I know it's not fair Mona, but lets be honest - when have MS ever given anything away? If you don't like it, you can always go to Apple, which products are twice the price or a linux install and hope there's not too much of a headache to set it up.... - Terry O'Fee
I don't agree. If a consumer bought a new computer within the last year or so, they should be able to run Vista just fine. The early performance complaints of Vista were from older computers. - Alan Le
So that's how you treat consumers? Especially in an unstable market where Apples are becoming more widely used? Don't like us? F*ck off? I don't know about you, but as a long time Windows user now Mac convert, I'd like to see Windows succeed. - Mona Nomura from IM
Maybe this is the difference between Apple and Microsoft, Mona. Apple released OS X 10.1 as a free upgrade from 10.0 (which was arguably worse than Vista). We're in a different situation though. Everybody is cutting costs left and right (including Microsoft) and no matter what they did last year, THIS year is different. I expect very little "free" anything this year. It'd be a stretch for Microsoft to do this in a good year, but it's even more a stretch to even think about it this year. - Bwana ☠
If MSFT has the $$$ to throw away resources on applications that have been hybernating (play ready ring a bell? what's going on with "pink"?) They sure as heck should have the funds to service their clients. I played with a Vista machine for the first time a few weeks ago and was utterly appalled. That said, I am excited for Windows 7 CTP - Mona Nomura from IM
that's what im trying to say. i'm no big fan of the MS either (despite me using it) but didn't MS just lay people off as well? Good intentions aren't going to pay the bills. - Terry O'Fee
Those are 2008 funds... 2009 has different budgets - Bwana ☠
Oh and you will see those "throw away" resources dwindle - Bwana ☠
If you want free, go Linux or use them trendy torrent sites. Microsoft doesn't owe anybody a new product just because customers had a gripe about their old product. - Jon, the Beartato of FF
Bwana - also Apple sell the OS and the computer to go with it. MS don't sell the PCs (yet - actually no. I don't want the red ring of death on a PC too :P) - Terry O'Fee
Look, I see where you're coming from Bwana but I highly disagre. MSFT is going more and more downhill and is this a smart business move for them? You have to spend money to make money and we've been under the MSFT reign for so long, they were free to do whatever the EF they wanted. Average consumers don't have the time nor the resources to install free open source OSs nor do they want... more... - Mona Nomura from IM
all a free upgrade will do is get reports in the tech blogs. you really think word of mouth is going to spread to the average user who is looking for a new computer? - Terry O'Fee
What are you talking about? - Mona Nomura from IM
It'll be cheap anyway if they are going on Netbooks. Or vendors will make it cheap by installing crapware. - Rodfather
So if consumers get free upgrades, what about businesses? That's a huge piece of the pie. I agree with your reasoning Mona, but I simply don't think it's going to happen. - Bwana ☠
I don't know about free upgrade, but it needs to be cheaper for Vista users as there aren't many features in Windows 7 compared to Vista. Performance is better but that's what it should have been with Vista. - Vaibhav
What about existing customers who are stuck with a crap OS? I am not around techies all day and there are a lot of people that can't even hook up their computer to WiFi - or have major issues when troubleshooting. I mean look at that frickin' UX! On top of that, it's slow! Hey for all you people that know and love Vista? I commend you all but usability is number one and Vista is a nightmare. - Mona Nomura from IM
@Mona Who said Microsoft is going downhill? I'm not sure what you use to gauge company health, but 60B in revenue and a 30% profit margin seem like they'd contradict the thought that we're a struggling company. http://finance.yahoo.com/q... - Paul Whitaker
You said it at the beginning, it's about principle, and principle ain't gonna sway the accountants. Reality :/ - Bwana ☠
Proof right there they should give Vista away for free TO EXISTING CUSTOMERS FOR AN UPGRADE. - Mona Nomura from IM
For those who bought Vista Business, they already have XP disks to use. Vista isn't a failure so there shouldn't be compensation. Windows 7 is not a Vista upgrade anyway. At least not marketed that way. - Rodfather
Mona, you might as well buy a car and then expect a free upgrade when the new model comes out the following year because you didn't like the one you have or couldn't figure out how to drive it properly. - Akiva Moskovitz
Seriously? You expect the people who made this to not get paid? No revenue? You've gotta weird picture of how the world works. - Ernie Oporto
It's not unheard of, like I said, Apple did it with OS X 10.0 -> 10.1. I just think there's outside factors that are going to prevent MS from taking this leap. - Bwana ☠
But for cars and I can customize the way I want to. I can't afford a paddle shift all leather bimmer wiht a sun roof, so I'll settle with a cheaper manual w/ a sunroof option that might be thrown or perhaps go with an automatic with no sun roof. They all drive properly but there are choices. Terrible example, Akiva. - Mona Nomura from IM
Service packs like Vista SP1 were free. Windows 7 is not a service pack. - Alan Le
Bwana - it's called customer service LOL - Mona Nomura from IM
It might as well be a SP because it's basically the same thing, re-packaged with a few UI tweaks (from what I'm reading) - Mona Nomura from IM
Mona, your response to me makes no sense. - Akiva Moskovitz
Why you would equate Microsoft to a car in the first place makes no sense. - Mona Nomura from IM
Especially Vista. - Mona Nomura from IM
Its a good thought, however its not going to happen. It should however be reasonably priced like an Apple upgrade, and there should not be so many different versions perhaps 2 home user and business user. - Dean Blithe
See, Vista is not a failed product. I've shared articles on my feed listing reasons (consumers can understand) why it is not. However, an OS should not take over an hour to learn and certainly shouldn't require tweaking in order for it to run smooth. Tech savvy people LOVE it. Consumers hate it. So who is Vista really for? - Mona Nomura from IM
Mona, basically it appears that you want a free upgrade because you didn't like the Vista experience. That is the same as buying a car and then not liking it and expecting the next generation of the model for free (and I chose a car as an example because it follows a pattern similar to OS releases). You might as well whine to Apple and say that you bought a Mac but you hate the Dock so you expect the next version of OS X for free. - Akiva Moskovitz
I don't have a MSFT machine anymore and stayed away from Vista - as far away as possible. It is NOT the same as buying a car, since there are HUNDREDS of cars to choose from. How many platforms do we have to choose from? What about the peopel who can't afford Apples? I know many people that have purchased cheap(er) computers with Vista and have nothing but issues because they don't know how to use it. Is it really their fault they purchased a new computer and forced to use Vista? - Mona Nomura from IM
So your complaint now isn't with Vista but it's with the fact that OEMs bundle with Vista? Take it up with the OEMs. I mean, last I checked, if you bought an Apple, you only had one choice of OS, too. At least most PC OEMs gave you the option of XP. - Akiva Moskovitz
LOL!! Ok, Akiva. You win. But that still doesn't change the fact Windows 7 is a pre-packeged Vista with UI tweaks. - Mona Nomura from IM
Hiding this before I say something mean. - Paul Whitaker
Yeah and that's no different than Snow Leopard being pre-packaged Leopard with under-the-hood tweaks. - Akiva Moskovitz
I haven't said anything about Mac or people should get a Mac, omg LOL. All I am saying is, as a general business practice if you sell a flawed product they (MSFT) as a company should take steps to rectify it. They did something that threw everyone off by offering XP down? upgrades? for existing Vista consumers. That right there shows how unhappy people were with the experience. Why NOT offer Windows 7 free to users that already have Vista on their machines newly purchased? - Mona Nomura from IM
Paul Whitaker's a turdhead! - Akiva Moskovitz
It is not. Microsoft didn't spend 3 years doing UI tweaks. - Alan Le
The UX is flawed, Alan... All devs I know LOVE Vista, consumer hate it. :( - Mona Nomura
Dude, they're still using... Tahoma in the shell. It's painful. - l0ckergn0me
Mona, I use both OSX and Vista and now Windows 7. For me Windows is more practical for gaming and work. I don't think it's flawed. I however love to use OSX while browsing and to do creative work. I'm not a typical consumer though as you pointed out. - Alan Le
l0ckergn0me, I thought it as all Segui UI these days. - Akiva Moskovitz
Definitely should be free (or at least slightly under 20$). This would propel Microsoft ahead immensely. - Brandon Titus
Microsoft is not ahead and have a monopoly with its OS? tell that the the EU. - Alan Le
LOL @Matt. - Alan Le
Oh, dang, I KNEW I should be doing *something*... - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Yes. Next question? - Martha
I agree, it should be free or possibly $50 tops. But that wouldn't be the Microsoft way of doing things. - Sloan Bowman
Vista has worked very well for me in a corporate domain setting. We've only used Vista with new computers though. XP was fine for what we do. Every average user that I have setup with Vista was resistant and hesitant at first because of the bad publicity they heard. Every single one of them have thoroughly enjoyed using Vista and would never go back to XP. Windows 7 thus far for me seems like many modest improvements to Vista which add up to a very good OS. However, it must be a free or under $50 upgrade. - Jim Bednarz
I can't believe no one has a made a counterpoint thread "Why Windows 7 should cost 3 paychecks" - Matthew DeVries
@Jim - Agreed, almost everyone who actually USED Vista for more than a week with a bad attitude loves it once they get used to the changes. It is stable, secure, fast and does things that you really really miss when you go back to XP. - Soulhuntre
Win7's real value is in giving all the pundits and a-listers who are so emotionally invested in Vista floppign a chance to admit they were wrong without having to say they were wrong. They cna go on and on about how good Win7 is and never amdit that the core tech is all Vista baby. - Soulhuntre
That being said, Win7 does do things nicer than vista and runs equally well on my primary quad core and my Dell Mini9 - which is flat out awesome. - Soulhuntre
Thomas Hawk
The Digital Picture Photo Forum Deleting "Anti Canon" Posts - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
I think it's incredibly stupid when forums try censorship. Especially over something as stupid as writing an "anti-Canon" post. I'm glad that I've yet to see any serious instance of censorship on FriendFeed and hope that FF stays censorship free in 2009. - Thomas Hawk
Completely agree with Thomas Hawk, it makes no sense and quite frankly being part of a forum like that is only bad for its participants - Dean Blithe
That's abhorrent. I am a big Canon fan myself but even I will admit that they need a kick up the arse at the moment - and one of the best methods of communicating this is across forums such as this. On a side note, just for a second there I thought that this was about Digital Photography Review and not Digital Picture, and nearly wept. Phew. - Luke Robinson
+1 Thomas...so true...couldn't agree more! - Susan Beebe
Duncan Riley
Kathy Griffin Abuses Heckler With Oral Sex Reference: CNN goes upmarket in 2009 - http://www.inquisitr.com/13914...
kathy-griffin-cnn
ROFL!!!!! That was going into break too! Nice job! - Drew Lucas
Kathy is ... not funny in person either. http://louisgray.com/live... - Louis Gray
To the heckler, "I don't go to your job and knock the dicks out of your mouth!" - Christopher Harley
Ana Ma Roopa so what if he iis its 2009, is it relevant NO - Dean Blithe
and they thought they could make it the whole time without something like this happening - Matt Faulkner from twhirl
what is wrong with her? and is that a wig? - Anna Lynn M.
Dean Blithe
Some new pics on smugmug - https://www.google.com/reader...
Been playing around with black and white.. - Dean Blithe from Bookmarklet
Kol Tregaskes
BBC SPORT | Football | Premier League | Blackburn 1-3 Liverpool - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1...
BBC SPORT | Football | Premier League | Blackburn 1-3 Liverpool
"Goals from Xabi Alonso, Yossi Benayoun and Steven Gerrard were enough to keep Liverpool top of the table and leave Blackburn without a league win in 10." - Kol Tregaskes from Bookmarklet
Go Liverpool!! - Amani
Amani, have a look at this room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... - Kol Tregaskes
Arsenal next isn't it? - Joe Dawson
ahahahahahha poor poor Blackburn - Nine
Joe, is it? Gosh, I must keep up with the games better. - Kol Tregaskes
I am now the 7th member. I need to catch up on my Liverpool info anyways. I have been slacking. Thanks Kol. - Amani
No worries, Amani. - Kol Tregaskes
cos they are short sighted... - Rob Sellen :o)
GREAT GREAT Stuff..... Long way to go but on the right road, which they will Never Walk Alone... - Dean Blithe
Eric P
77% Say Children Should Say Pledge At School Every Day - http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...
Just 13% say they should not, and nine percent (9%) are undecided. Eighty-two percent (82%) say the words “under God” should remain in the Pledge as well. Fourteen percent (14%) think the phrase should be dropped from the Pledge, and just four percent (4%) have no opinion. Voters are closely divided over whether students should be able to opt out of saying the Pledge of Allegiance every morning. Forty-four percent (44%) say they should be allowed to do so, but 47% disagree. Nine percent (9%) are not sure. - Eric P from Bookmarklet
Nothing wrong with the pledge. But I believe students should have the option of opting out of the "under god" part. Quite honestly, the god part does not belong in the pledge at all. It was not originally there as written by Frances Scott Key, but was added in the 1950's under pressure from religious special interest groups. Many Americans worship other deities or none at all. The government should not be promoting religion. - Jeff P. Henderson
Intetesting it always annoyed me that my daughter did the pledge at school while we lived in the US for work as she is not a US Citizen.. She coukd have opted out.. - Dean Blithe
@jeff, sorry, but there is absolutely something wrong with pledging an allegiance to the flag - the classroom is not the right place, nor are children the appropriate subjects to be required to swear blind fealty to a list of archaic nationalist abstractions. - Marko Bon from fftogo
I never said the pledge as a child and I've already told my kid's school that they don't do so either. They only do it once a week, but I told her that if she doesn't feel like it she doesn't have to. - Admiral Anika
Always felt weird about saying this everyday as a child. After a while, I went silent when the 'under god' part came around. - Rodfather
It was even more weird going through Little League tournaments when I was 12. At some tourneys, we would have to say the Little League Pledge and a participate in a prayer before the game. - Rodfather
I agree with Marko.. it's certainly not appropriate to have children recite something without them having the full understanding of exactly what they are pledging. But besides that, I also do agree with a point made by Jeff - not all Americans pray to a God. They may hold belief in another deity, or perhaps none at all, and that should be respected. I'm rather astonished at the high percentages. IMO, saying the pledge should be optional, and teachers should go over the meaning of the pledge beforehand. - deepikaur
One day when I was working as a substitute teacher after previously teaching for 2 years, I asked one student near me to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. My jaw broke the foundation when I was told that the kids do not have to stand:( I knew my public teaching days were evaporating by the second at that moment. - Roney Smith
@Marko - well said - Eric P
Agree, Marko. You know the pledge used to require a raised right arm, until WW2 made that image unacceptable. I still think of the Grossdeutsche Jugendbewegung when I see kids forced to say the pledge. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Thomas Hawk
heading home north on Hwy 99. Spent yesterday and last night shooting Fresno with my sons Jack and William.
Travel safe, dahling!! - Mrsth
Hope you enjoyed your time out here! =) - Victor
Victor it was fantastic and my two boys really enjoyed Fresno as well. There is so much great neon in Fresno and we got some great night shots there as well. Great architecture and a different version of California than the Bay Area. - Thomas Hawk
Did you wave as you went past Turlock, Ceres and Modesto? - Russellreno
Oh, I definitely spent time in all of the above towns, plus Merced and Stockton. It was a great whirlwind 2 day shoot-a-thon. It was terrific spending one on one time with my boys as well. - Thomas Hawk
Can't wait to see the pics (are they already up?) as I grew up in the Fresno area. - Kat
no photos up yet. I'm hopelessly behind in my processing. It will probably be a bit before I'm able to get Fresno going online. - Thomas Hawk
how many hundreds/thousands of photos do you typically have awaiting processing? - Aaron B. Hockley from IM
@Aaron. At present I've probably got about 15,000 or so processed photos ready for upload. I'm probably also about 2 months behind on my RAW processing. This represents maybe another 20,000 or so captures to go through, process, keyword, geotag, and then move them to the "to be uploaded" folder which I then pull from randomly mostly. This represents maybe another 3,000 photos or so which will be added to the 15,000 in waiting. - Thomas Hawk
I've been uploading 30 photos a day on weekdays and 45 photos a day on weekends, roughly pulled from the "to be uploaded" archive of 15,000 or so at present. So many photos to shoot, process, keyword and geotag and so little time. - Thomas Hawk
Hi Thomas when you post the 45 a day is that typically across Zooomr and Flickr splitting the amount over the two services? - Dean Blithe
no, usually I post 45 a day to flickr and a bit less on the weekends to Zooomr. Zooomr has more photos than Flickr because I got mad at Flickr over a censorship issue a while back and stopped posting there for a while so I've got to play catch up. I usually upload 30 every weekday to Flickr and Zooomr and then 45 a weekend day to Flickr and maybe another 10-20 a weekend to Zooomr. - Thomas Hawk
speaking of shooting. Time to head out and go wander the streets of San Francisco. Later. - Thomas Hawk
Dean Blithe
BBC NEWS | In pictures : Wildlife Photographer of the Year, Deadlock - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2...
Cool pics - Dean Blithe from Bookmarklet
Robert Scoble
@storyboardlife I'm glad to report I was wrong about McCain winning the election. I thought Palin was better than she turned out to be.
You make it sound like the election is over Robert. I wouldn't be so quick to call it. - Kenton
I pray that you are right about being wrong about the election. - Michael Markman
the election's over. Obama won. - Thomas Hawk
Obama will win enough electoral college seats but will be tight on the popular vote an Obama win and history changed - Dean Blithe
electoral college will be tight very tight, anyone remember that with a tie this thing gets even more complicated - Daltonsbriefs
I'd bet on Obama to win but I wouldn't be surprised if the undecideds broke to McCain and he scored higher than expected. A McCain win would be a surprise, but not impossible. The math this cycle is very odd and unpredictable. And any pro politico knows there is one other factor no one on FF seems to mention--the WEATHER on election day. Always has an impact. - Andrew Leyden
Robert, I told you during your panic a month or so ago it will all be cool. Smile. :-) - Chris Baskind
Ack! The election is not over yet. Please pretend Obama is down by 1% until November 5th. - AJ Kohn
My point is, you never know until the end. Exit polls in 2004 overwhelmingly favoured Kerry. So much so that the odds of a swing as drastic as was witnessed in 2004 were as high as 250 million to 1. As much as I'd like to see Obama win, it ain't over 'til it's over. - Kenton
@Kenton, that ain't true - the exit polls may have been skewed on election day, but we knew the day and week before that Kerry hadn't closed the gap - Christopher Galtenberg
@Christopher, and how do you know that Obama has? You can't know until the votes are cast and the results tabulated. Polls mean nothing and until people actually vote you have nothing but polls and everyone else's biased opinions to guide you.. - Kenton
Did I say that? I'm just addressing the incongruence of the Kerry argument with the current situation. Sure, take all the polls with a grain of salt. That said: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5ieXw2... http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ - Christopher Galtenberg
You can hate Novak but this piece here is actually very factual and objective on how the race will likely go to Obama, but could still mathematically break for McCain. http://www.humanevents.com/article... - Andrew Leyden
Whatever happens, there will be no tie. Pretend that Obama is the one playing catch-up. Given the last two elections, I'm not sure that's not a realistic mindset. - Victor Ganata
Robert.. I would rather see you type this on Wed Nov 5th. - CW™
@Kenton, and with direct-recording electronic voting machines, you have no idea whether the votes cast were the ones recorded. 30% of the country is voting on these damn things and there's no way anyone should have any confidence that the numbers we end up with are valid. - kris. nuttycombe
"What is the mission of this website? Most broadly, to accumulate and analyze polling and political data in way that is informed, accurate and attractive. Most narrowly, to give you the best possible objective assessment of the likely outcome of upcoming elections." Conspiracy theories aside, no one can say the election is over until November 5. - Kenton
Early voting anomalies are so wide spread we might not know who won until mid-November - Robert Hafer
Robert Hafer, I seriously hope your wrong. - CW™
This thread is exhibiting all the signs of Battered Democrat Syndrome - Christopher Galtenberg
Word from MO workers; several absentee ballots coming in unsigned, names not found on voting list, early ballots marked for Obama and no other votes. - Robert Hafer
this thing is NOT in the bag for Obama, and laissez-faire attitudes are how the candidates you support DON'T get into office. for reference, think back 4 years. or 8 years. remember? - Jeremy Toeman
@kris. "you have no idea whether the votes cast were the ones recorded." Yes you do! When you vote on the electronic voting machines you are supposed to be presented with a print out afterwards, and you are supposed to verify that your votes were case correctly. - Jeff P. Henderson
Abby: you really think I have that many Twitter followers that I can change the election outcome based upon what I say? Um, no I don't. And even if I did they don't listen to me anyway. :-) - Robert Scoble
Me too - Steve Rubel
Robert: No, but the sentiment isn't uncommon among Obama supporters and it might lead the less motivated to stay home. - Kevin Pedraja
@Robert: It's not the effect you have on just your followers. It's the chance that you begin a meme which mutates and is passed quickly. Most don't go very far, in part because the source of the meme has to be a high influencer. Which ... you are. I'm not saying you'll change the election, I'm just saying, you may have more of an impact than you realize. - AJ Kohn
The less motivated don't need the friendfeedosphere as a reason to stay home. - Alex Scoble
In Ohio, with a Democratic Secretary of State and Dem. Governor, Obama should be untouchable. But Ohio Democrats know the Republican party has been throwing lawyers already. Acorn is not a useless nut here in Buckeye Country. Here we find it useful to fantasize that Mickey Mouse will show up and try to vote. Here whisper and e-mail campaigns are constantly linking Obama to Muslims, terrorists, godless communist, and any other group that might cause a reaction from Joe Sixpack. - Phil Boiarski
Robert Scoble
Would YOU Have Published This Embarrassing John McCain Photo? - http://www.PDNPulse.com/2008...
hell yes - Dean Blithe
Well, apparently a lot of people would. There was meme on FF and I know Fark had fun with it, as well. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I would. - Robert Scoble
Yeah... - CW™
Why not? - Kamath (नमः)
All this time, I was thinking that was a fake. That's just sad, and with that, yeah, I totally would. - Derrick
considering I just shared it on every social network I'm a member of, I'd have to say yes - shaun mclane
The question should be "why wouldn't you publish this photo?" You can actually frame a discussion of ehtics around that question. I'd have published it if I'd had space -- it's not important news, but it is a unique moment, like a cat that can perform calculu is unique. - Mitch Ratcliffe from twhirl
There's even a video about it - Jesse Stay
Why not, it's the truth. It happened. - Ryan
I love that these publications probably have absolutely no idea we're talking about them. Traditional journalists are clueless. - Jesse Stay from twhirl
Um, every person in the world can be made to look awful if you capture the right frame. Obama blinks and licks his lips, like any other person, yet we haven't seen Reuters distribute photos of him doing that. - Rob Sterling
Rob, because no one posted anything about Obama blinking and licking his lips. Find a good frame, post it, and we'll laugh about that, too. These are funny - I don't care who it is. - Jesse Stay from twhirl
My first thought to myself was: which one? lol - Far
It's pointless I think. - Tejas Patel
Wow, all this time I thought that was a photoshopped image. Every time I see it though I bust a gut laughing. Not so much because McCain looks like such a freak, but imagining what Obama thought the first time he saw the pic. - jcunwired
Yes. Every President deals with unflattering photos. If you're screaming foul before you're in office then forget it. - AJ Kohn
This is America, damn it! Censorship—even self-censorship—is for commie pinkos! Of course we'll publish it, and you'll be happy about it, too! - Victor Ganata
This is one of the two guys aiming to be our nation's leader. The people need to know what he's like off camera, because in four years, he'll likely look like that a few times more on camera. - Aram Zucker-Scharff from twhirl
He makes funny faces just like everyone does. Sometimes I feel that Obama can be sober to the point of being condescending. I think most people will agree, we want to see the human side of the candidates sometimes too. So long as they don't go overboard like Dean did. - Will Higgins™
just change yourself http://www.obamayourself.com :-) - hendrik Dacquin
It seems McCain likes to stick his tongue out: http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos... - Gabe
I would publish. A President is a diplomat. Maintaining dignity in public is part of the job. If he were a candidate for a job where dignity was not relevant, then I would not publish. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
@bruce. If you want, yo can snap a picture of ANYONE looking like an idiot. Journalist just decide not to do it (for whatever reason). But here the decided otherwise. I am not a fan of McCain, but this one seems unfair... - jonathan from twhirl
When I saw that happen, I rewound my TiVo and snapped a photo. http://www.flickr.com/photos... Made a video too. - Steve Garfield from twhirl
Jonathan, yes, you can catch anyone in mid-sneeze, or with their mouth frozen in what seems like a funny position just because they're talking. Sticking your tongue out is different. A sneeze doesn't look idiotic when you see it in real life. Sticking your tongue out like that does. People will notice. Foreign dignitaries will notice. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
If this picture hadn't been published we would never have had WFMU's Photoshop contest. (Some hilarious, some awful) http://blog.wfmu.org/freefor... - Michael Markman
Seriously, when did we start expecting the press to censor themselves? What is this, Soviet Russia? - Victor Ganata
there is a difference between censorship and tact. where that line is, even in this story i would not be ready to place. - Shane Grant
I edit footage of politicians most days and it's so easy to freeze frame and make the person look ridiculous. But not THAT ridiculous. - dee Harvey
Dean Blithe
BBC NEWS | Americas | US Elections 2008 | Top hits of the YouTube election - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2...
Just Vote!!!! - Dean Blithe from Bookmarklet
Lindsay
If Sarah Palin ever does ascend to the presidency, I WILL be leaving the country. That is a solemn promise. I do not want to live in a country that validates or epitomizes the kind of person she is. If you are one who says "she's just like me!!" with enthusiasm, you need to re-evaluate your life.
Argentina is nice. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Leave Tad here. - Akiva Moskovitz
Tad agrees and will move with me. Australia or New Zealand are our current favorites for options. New Zealand sends him emails all the time begging us to immigrate because we're programmers and they need them. - Lindsay
Nah - we'll both be on our way to New Zealand probably. - Internet's Tad
I'm going to have an ulcer before November 4. - Trish R
Fey says she'll be leaving the planet, if McCain wins. - teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Heh. Why be afraid of Islamic theocracy when Christian theocracy is so much more likely to happen? - Victor Ganata
Cabo San Lucas is really nice in November. Good thing I have friends there. - Steven Perez
coming with ya' Lindsay! - Erin @queenofspain
@Victor - we've been pretty close to a Christian theocracy for 8 years now. I want a a-theocracy, like the Founding Fathers intended! - Lindsay
A high tech commune in Costa Rica or Mexico? I too am outta here - to know that the US is that stupid, I wouldn't want to be a part of it either. - jcunwired
I've been to Sydney and enjoyed it... and I think the standard of living would be pretty much the same for us (maybe a little better). That's still my first choice. I think New Zealand is beautiful and it would be easy to immigrate there. And there's no language barrier in either of those places, so those are major selling points. - Lindsay
Akiva: :-) - Lisa L. Seifert
I've been saying that I'll move to Australia, as well. Lucky for me, I have RL friends there. Anyone remember Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day?? I think I'm moving to Australia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Lisa L. Seifert
We've been pretty close to a theocracy for the last 8 years? LOL. Hard to take this seriously. - Rob Sterling
You'll leave the country if she becomes president? Alec Baldwin said similar things. He's still around making $ in this wonderful country of ours. Democracy actually works. FWIW, you have nothing to worry about as The One will win handedly. - Robert Owens
A-theocracy, Yes! My top picks at the moment are Vancouver or Toronto. Or better, maybe some Caribbean island. - LogEx
And the liberals are getting on the conservatives saying there will be a civil war if Obama wins. Man, I'm scared whoever wins this election of what happens to this country. - Jesse Stay from twhirl
I surely do wish that all the people who say "If X wins, I'm leaving" every election cycle, would actually leave when X wins. - Joey Gibson
Peter, yes. - jcunwired
NZ needs programmers? Jason, note: NZ. - Cyndy
see ya - David Ward
I say anybody stupid enough to say that, adios amigo. - David Risley
Bye bye, don't let the door hit you in the..........., people say that, but they never do. - Mol, Santa Claws
im with you guys, i'll leave the country as well, either canada or the Caribbean, screw this witch that is obviously another bitch, we dont need one of those for president - Kyle Weller
I know some woman that call her the C word, woman dont like her, no woman I know would, they all see right through her, if you like her your very sheltered and closed minded - Kyle Weller
I'd rather stay in the town my family has been in for generations and vote for a better country. - Rodfather
I DID NOT like Bill Clinton, and I was EXTREMELY upset with Bush winning, both times, but I didn't want to leave the country. I was very unhappy with the potential for Hillary to be president because I can't stand her but at least she is intelligent and doesn't put down intelligence in others. I am dead serious about Palin, though. I will leave if she ever becomes president. Fortunately I think the chance is small, but you can look this up later if it happens. @Peter I know someone who did move in 2004 - Lindsay
He moved to Canada. We haven't spoken in a year but at that point he still had dual citizenship. He might move back after the election, but with the way our economy is now, I doubt it. - Lindsay
@Molly, don't wave goodbye just yet. Palin would have to win first, and then that door couldn't close fast enough to hit me if it tried (I'd be long gone). I am hoping that Obama will win and this country will start to turn around from the long dark nightmare over the next couple of years and by the next election cycle the Republicans will have woken up and remade themselves into a party worth voting for again (which would nix Palin as a candidate). - Lindsay
ya know what? screw leaving the country I change my mind, if Palin/McCant win the presidency lets start/organize a CIVIL WAR here on friendfeed :) - Kyle Weller
Gosh, you're so much nicer than me -- I have other suggestion for what people who see themselves as being just like Palin should do. - A.J.
Before you move, keep in mind the Conservative Party just won the last election... - Shey, Jamaican of FF
Shey has a good point, but PeterGulka tweeted it best: "for my American friends - Canadian Conservative government roughly equates to a Democrat gov't. Pro-capitalism with prudent socialism." - Micah Wittman from twhirl
Also, O Ye who consider cross-border life: dual citizens technically have to continue filing IRS return showing world-wide income. There's a US-Canada tax agreement which exempts (up to a certain threshold) getting taxed twice. Not all countries have such an agreement with the US of A. But don't let paperwork get ya down :) - Micah Wittman from twhirl
If you do leave, please stay wherever you go. - Ryan Petty
:: waves:: Bye now, buh-bye. If everyone who threatened to leave for losing an election actually DID it, I think we would all be better off. I didn't like Clinton as President, but I didn't feel compelled to make "goodbye cruel world" statements. As a side note, anyone who thinks the US is even close to a theocracy clearly isn't sure what one is. - Soulhuntre
If I do, please don't ever come visit, Ryan. And don't get so cocky, Soulhuntre. Palin hasn't won yet, and I'm probably just as patriotic as you think you are (can't stand to see my country ruined). I know we're not in a theocracy but we have influential people in the government and many people in the right-wing that would be more than happy if we were. It's time to remove that influence so that our country isn't stunted by it anymore (especially in regard to logical thinking and scientific advancement). - Lindsay
I'm with you, Lindsay... my eyes are set on London. ;) - Brandon
I'm moving back home to England if she does.. - Dean Blithe
I'll say it again - Palin represents the exact opposite of what being an American means to me. She and her kind seek to destroy this country and what it stands for. - Internet's Tad
That said, I do not feel the same way about McCain. We have no intention of leaving if he becomes president. - Internet's Tad
Tad, is "her kind" like, "the one"? ;-) - Jesse Stay from twhirl
You know where the door is, I hope you use it. I would never leave my country because of the politician who gets elected isn't my favorite. I could care less about the socialist 0bama, but I certainly won't leave if he wins. How sad it is. - Spencer
Yes, Spencer, the door has been referred to many times in this thread. I know where it is, and I won't let it hit me. I believe that if someone as power hungry, disdainful of intelligence and focused on proving she's a maverick/rouge were in the top seat of power it would be the final nail in the coffin of the prominence of the US. She has no new ideas, and isn't interested in exposing herself to any (she already knows the "right" way to do things). I don't want to participate in my country's downfall. - Lindsay
It's not about "whether the politician isn't my favorite" it's about whether that person is going to change the country for the better or worse. Palin is like an ambitious Bush, she's more dangerous than he has been, and look where he's taken the country. It's a bad direction and I don't want to live here if it goes down that road again. Fortunately, I think we'll have at least 4 years of Obama and the Republicans will reinvent themselves and hopefully Palin won't be in consideration anymore. - Lindsay
You'll be missed - NOT. - Dan Nimtz
Don't let the door hit you in the ass. - Art Lindsey III
Dang, don't people bother to read previous comments? How many variations on "Don't let the door hit you" are there? I'm hoping that door never has a chance to open but if it does I will waste no time walking through it, Art. And in either case, you wouldn't be missed either, Dan. - Lindsay
Kol Tregaskes
Atletico Madrid 1-1 Liverpool - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1...
Its was a good game until Rafa took Gerrard and Keane out then they lost there rythm, I think they sacrificed the game for the big one at the weekend.. - Dean Blithe
Derrick
Looking at all my FF posts today: My gawd, I'm gay.
as if you would have it any other way. - ♥patricia♥
Like WAY gay, Pea. Richard Simmons is looking at me and saying, daaaamn. I gotta butch it up, yo. - Derrick
*giggle* no comment - Melissa
TEENSY WEENSY - Akiva Moskovitz
Melle, you know I'm more Silverlake than WeHo. Kinda. - Derrick
Honey... Dave + the Vista + fro-yo + Akbar, mmmkay. - Melissa
actually, what I meant to type was, as if *I* would have it any other way. you are so fabulously gay that it makes me wanna be gay. wait, that's the way it works, right? where's my manual? hey, Derrick! are you Q? - ♥patricia♥
I don't think I'm all that gay, its just I *really* enjoy sex with men. Its not like I don't watch football, geez. - Derrick
Please. Sports are so gay. Tight ends, facials, men showering together? That just solidifies your original point. - ♥patricia♥
I'm as gay as a figure skater eating a corndog at a pride parade. On rollerskates. Scratch that, rollerBLADES. - Derrick
I love sports, facials, and men showering together! Yes, please. - Derrick
and this is precisely why I love you. we have so much in common. <3 - ♥patricia♥
Dave + Derrick + Freeballing + leaving Melle in the front room while me and Dave go the back room = phag. - Derrick
* D E A D * - Melissa
OMFG...this thread == ridiculous - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
ha ha!! - Cee Bee
I think I'm the queerest thing on FF. In real life, I can totally pass for str8. I think. - Derrick
@Derrick I pass for straight a lot (because people don't pay attention). It's overrated. - jbrotherlove
wrong on both counts. sweet man, you don't scream flame but you don't pass as straight. but then, i have excellent fucking gaydar so that might just be me. - ♥patricia♥
Wait, jbrotherlove's gay? We gotta do the secret handshake. - Derrick
Anyone that has commented on or liked this post is now officially gay. - B. Hatin
Just Vote No on 8 in California - Dean Blithe
Kaia, what *exactly* do you mean by gay? - Derrick
well, duh. kaia, we're not new here. we all know we're FUN. geez. we don't need you telling us that. - ♥patricia♥
I don't care if Derrick is gay or straight. The dude is hilarious! :) - Rodfather
this thread makes me happy. and please, vote no on 8 if you are in CA. :) - Bren, Not Grinchy
Wait...did Kaia just make me gay? That's so not gonna work out for me. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Rodfather: You get a fist bump! - Derrick
No on 8 for sure... - Derrick
I'm hoping this convo is bringing more FF queers to light. I love my straighties but I need someone who understands man-on-man loving to give me support. You know, like a jock strap. - Derrick
"Anyone that has commented on or liked this post is now officially gay." Yay! It's much more fun when it's official. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Like having a blog called HeathenQueer that links here hasn't already made it official. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
*Going to Jack's blog* (selfish plug for my own: http://www.randomscreaming.com) - Derrick
Don MacAskill
Hmm, my recent photos from SmugMug don't seem to be showing up on FF. My bug or theirs? Anyone else having probs?
Mine are not showing up either, did you get yours fixed? - Dean Blithe
Thomas Hawk
I agree with you completely. I've wasted countless hours trying to convert videos between formats. Enough already!!!! - Roberto Bonini
There's alot more work when your done shooting, but I'd hate to see you give up on that idea. It sounds like a great idea for a show. besides, your must get amazing shots. oting, but I'd hate to see you give up on the idea. besides, your must get some amazing shots! - Michael Fidler from twhirl
Twirl is doing some strange things and it won't let post the links I want to send you, I'll try it from the browser - Michael Fidler from twhirl
Thomas - vidoe is a lot of work. However I imagine there are many interns and geekies out there who wuld love to wokr with you and do some of the heavy lifting. Video is much easier with a team - even a team of 2. - Roxanne Darling from twhirl
Thomas - video is a lot of work however maybe you can find an intern or ass't to do the processing? Having a team really helps! - Roxanne Darling from twhirl
ULead Video Studio 11 edits TOD natively. It will make DVDs, web versions, etc from there. Spend a few $$, save a million headaches. - Ben Watson from twhirl
5DII video clips are recorded in .MOV format using an MPEG-4 video compression. (from Gizmodo). Also, VOB is a raw dvd file, play it in the VLC player, which should be every geek's fallback player. - InsaneNinja
Curious; how is it that despite there being so many competing image formats, JPG came to be nearly ubiquitous - whereas with video we've yet to see any one format dominate? And where are the video library management programs that'll suck up video in any format, convert and export to any other, and let you organize and tag the things (a la Lightroom for photos)? It seems almost archaic that I'm using a folder structure rather than a database driven app to do this. - Eric P
Ben, I'd consider buying software like ULead but I'm just not sure in the end that it won't just be a headache like the whole video process thing. Can you try their software for a month before you buy like Adobe does with Lightroom? I'd be happy to try it but don't want to spend a bunch of money on something that just doesn't work in the end. - Thomas Hawk
InsaneNinja, part of the problem is that I don't want to play my files in the VLC player. I can't watch them on my TV this way. I want to be able to play my videos through Windows Media Center which is what I'm using right now for my home entertainment. It sucks that I can't easily do this. - Thomas Hawk
"And where are the video library management programs that'll suck up video in any format, convert and export to any other, and let you organize and tag the things (a la Lightroom for photos)?" Eric, that's *exactly* what I'd like to see. I wouldn't mind everyone having their own format if there were a way that you could convert things to your format of choice. It shouldn't be as hard as it is for consumers. - Thomas Hawk
Eric. JPG is an older standard that could create a low file size with little compression, necessary in the days of 56k modems. Such as how mp3s with their 2-speaker stereo sound and high compression were necessary back then as well. MP4(aka m4v/m4a) is currently taking over as a dominant video format, with its high compression with low degradation, and being popularized by itunes and blogcasts. - InsaneNinja
Blip.tv is amazing. it uploads flv perfectly. I've decided that eveything goes to blip.tv. I'm not licking Mike Hudack's balls... it just seems to me that the best system for compatibility is that. plus cross publishing is *SO* important and it doesn't kill ur blog load because it starts with just an image. if there is a video standard it should be blip.tv. I would love to see blip.tv thread conversations... that happens and Seesmic is a goner. drawback is there is no blip.tv for friendfeed! - Noah David Simon
You have my sympathy, Video is such a pain, I just edited a video of my 16month old son it was such a hassle, I used Adobe Premier seemed to work well enough. In the end I have the memory captured thats what counts - Dean Blithe
video is a world in itself... some format problems are like a language I don't understand. I copy and splice in quicktime pro and it plays well enough... but on upload to seesmic it all gets lost. conversion from DVD is hard... but we know we can get a DVD to AVI easy enough. - Noah David Simon
@Thomas, while i have a hard time believing this, many sites claim that some VOBs are compressed in a way that you can rename the extension to mpg. (DVDs are coded in MPEG2). I'm sure you have attempted this already. - InsaneNinja
my main concern is why someone can't make an FLV converter to quicktime for the public domain. with all this web video it kills me that I can't edit it - Noah David Simon
It sounds like you hate bad software, not video. Not to be a insuffable fanboi, but this is one of those things that Macs get right. Plug camera in. Launch iMovie. Export. Done. - stretta from twhirl
Same here. I bought a HDV tape camcorder and Final Cut Express. Then had to add a separate hard disk for clip cache. Post production takes way too long. Imovie 08 is terrible. Back to video clips from point and shoot camera pasted together in Quicktime. - Alan Morris
it is amazing how many codec's and archives there are... sometimes u r taking video from one format and overlaying another... it actually has gotten better then when I first used a firewired mac in 1998 - Noah David Simon
one last comment i hope... http://www.mediacodec.org .. a WMP codec that claims to support FLV, FLAC, VOB among many others - InsaneNinja
again... if working on a project... I can't recommend enough blip.tv. you could gather all the different clip and formats onto one blip.tv stream and call it a web broadcast - Noah David Simon
Well the only thing I have that takes video is my small point and shoot Canon SD550. All I have to do is copy the files from the SD card and put them where ever I want to store them on my computer. They are already in .avi format so are easy to view and pretty easy to compress for uploading as well. Forget those big, expensive, clunky video only cameras! - Becca
VLC can do quite a lot conversions between different formats. People just don't know it. Try ctrl-W - Tapio Kulmala
Matthew, I tried editing the TOD files on my Mac using iMovie. It didn't work. iMovie didn't recognize the file format. I thought by buying a major brand name like JVC I'd be safe in getting video I could edit. Even the Mac can't do that though. That sucks for a consumer and JVC ought to have to put a warning label on their camera that it can't play on any device. - Thomas Hawk
abacac, I checked out that link. It includes a lot of formats but unfortunately doesn't mention JVC's crappy .TOD format. - Thomas Hawk
Did you use iMove to import the data off the camera? - stretta from twhirl
not free > http://www.convertmod.com/ claims to convert jvc TOD files - InsaneNinja
.TOD is just a mpeg file. Rename the file and any software should be able to process it. - Tapio Kulmala
Sorry Thomas, I was noticing some mention of other formats, too, and threw that out there. Dunno if you've read these comments yet re: changing file extensions and/or using Premiere/SDCopy: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets... - abacab
I feel your frustration. It is part of the control freak hell we live in today. Proprietary formats for something you create is just not acceptable. Concluesion JVC Sucks big time. - DC Crowley from twhirl
Proprietary formats on video camera = totally uncaceptable. Just like the one RAW format is not the same as the next one. We are being screwed. Also Jobs dropping firewire last week on one of the Mac books = a massive FAIL. We will lose all of or archiving capabilities with this crap. In another 4-5 years or DVD's won't work either and we'll need to transfer it all again so that the manufacturers can keep laughing all the way to the bank. Can we start some sort of action group on this. Enough is enough. - DC Crowley from twhirl
your first mistake was asking Steve Gillmor for advice :-) - Duncan Riley
haha! Duncan your a bitch :p - DC Crowley
A great video conversion tool is VisualHub (thanks to Leo Laporte for the tip), but the developer closed up shop earlier this month. You can still download it at http://www.geekmeetsgirl.net/visualh..., and hopefully it will go Open Source. - Nils Sandin
Leo Laporte
a whole day off - I hardly know what to do
aaah, no wonder you stopped by friendfeed :) - Zee.
day of... shmay off... go record something - Bastard Operator From FF
read! listen to music! know a new band! help an open source project! too many cool things to do... - Marcos Marado
seems like your never off, as am listening to Twit 165.... - Dean Blithe
RAPatton
The Associated Press: Stamp encourages Alzheimer's awareness - http://ap.google.com/article...
The Associated Press: Stamp encourages Alzheimer's awareness
"Alzheimer's is a frightening possibility that takes a toll on both the victims and their families. Ethel Kessler of Bethesda, Md., should know. Her mother Ruth, now in a nursing home, has suffered from the brain-wasting disease for years. That's why Kessler, who has designed more than 200 postage stamps, wanted to take on the job of planning the new Alzheimer's commemorative, which goes on sale Friday." - RAPatton from Bookmarklet
Great to see this. My Grandmother suffered for years and it's ... difficult. It's one reason why I work at caring.com (http://www.caring.com). We've got our own awareness ribbon too. http://www.caring.com/ribbons... - AJ Kohn
this is good to see, my father has Alzhiemer's now. It hard to see it happen. The long goodbye.. - Dean Blithe
<333 - Anna Haro
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Laughing at: "Obama Roasts McCain at Al Smith Dinner" (http://www.youtube.com/watch...)
Laughing at: "Obama Roasts McCain at Al Smith Dinner" (http://tinyurl.com/63geug)
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