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Twitter... down?
Kol Tregaskes, Oyunlar1, LonelyBob and 9 other people liked this
Man, I'm a junky.
- Veronica
Was it "Steve'd"?
- Kevan Emmott
i'm seeing all kinds of errors on my ops stats
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
It's the AT&T of social media. Given a big event it'll be down... :)
- Thomas
lame.
- Veronica
Yes, you are. I'm telling Ryan that you aren't giving your sole undivided attention to the gdgt live coverage.
- Paul Reynolds
Ya its down :( Throwing 503 error for me.
- Vikas SN
Actually, I have it auto-refreshing in the window next to this one
- Veronica
Can we attribute this to the Apple event chatter? Coincidence?
- Rolf Schewe
down
- Dave "Freedom 35"
I'm sure it's purely a coincidence, Rolf ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Indeed. Says: "HTTP Server Error 503 No available server to handle this request"
- Rolf Schewe
i'm seeing oauth verify and login errors in my system logs - twitter ops are not having a good morning it seems
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Definitely down.
- Robert Scoble
yeah, apple event I beat
- Jeffrey
ok
- mustaphasma
down.
- niccolò vecchia
Ken: I guess it's just that I usually don't refreshing it this much and happen to notice it this time.
- Rolf Schewe
Still the apple event makes me miss twitter a bit less
- Jorge
Back up for me.
- Rolf Schewe
I know I'm more than a bit biased, but I love the autorefreshing on gdgt! I don't even have to be in that window to watch it go by.
- Veronica
Back up - but for how long... :)
- Thomas
error rate is down to the normal level - you should be seeing data now
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I jumped to friendfeed to get my info.
- Sean Higgins
AGAIN!?
- Kevin Yanes
why so
- dinesh
from email
selam..Haw are you...
- demir çelik
Dude, c'mon, don't troll The Belmont.
- Aycan Çevik
13,000 people think Facebook is going to start charging in 2009. Please DO NOT invite these folks to FriendFeed. Idiots.
Daniel Rowley, Paolo Rossi, Olivier Brisson and 50 other people liked this
Uwe: yeah, I just think it's funny that some people will believe the lamest crap just because it's on the Internet.
- Robert Scoble
You can count me in for not inviting them over here!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Robert these 13000 people would not know what to do on Friendfeed and leave in less than 5 minutes of signing up.
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
this isn't the first or the last group like it, it's a good indicator of which of your friends are morons.
- Richard Lawler
Eldon: I hope I don't have that many idiots following me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
How about emails like these: "Bill Gates/Nokia/whatever will donate <something>, if this message is sent to 1000000 people". When I get something like this from some friend, I get disappointed on him/her...
- Jemm
there are 100 of these groups each week... everyone ignores them (well everyone important anyway ;))
- Thomas
Funny thing is - facebook is probably worth $3.99. Although I notice the French says $3.99 per month which would be a bit steep.
- Matthew Neale
but wait, i thought hotmail was closing the free service unless 2 million people add group Z ?
- Matt Randles
These groups are as old as Facebook itself. All they do is prove: heavy Facebook users = lemmings. :p
- Chris Charabaruk
I love you, Robert!
- Ladyepiphanybug
Wow, now it's at 18,000.
- Michelle M
There will always be a VIP group of sorts... back when Facebook started it looked like early adaptors were joining over there. Then came Twitter, now Friendfeed. If Friendfeed gets too mainstream (if that's possible) I'm wondering what's next.
- David Bisset (sn)
Why would they do that? They are already getting tons of money from sponsors and advertisers. Duh!
- Shevonne
@David: In the Web 2.0 world, there's bound to be something new and already in the works. I wonder what it is too, but I'd be surprised if it's not currently under construction, or even ready to launch.
- Chris Charabaruk
I wouldn't call them idiots. If they believe it, they believe it. So if it happens are the non-believers idiots? Hmmm
- Bwana ☠
:/... I doubt it will happen. They get enough money from advertising surely.
- ralphsaunders
This was the funniest quote I've seen microblogged in a while! Of course how many of these people use to (or still do) pay for Classmates or Reunion, so naturally they believe this garbage.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Reminds me of the false rumors a few years ago about AOL, Yahoo, and MS planning to charge for email to eliminate spam. Move on - nothing to see here.
- Mike Doeff
It's already 39,265 members in that certain group…
- Daniel Schildt
One thing to notice in this compared to older rumors is the amount of speed people notice it.
- Daniel Schildt
I might join and post something saying "Suckas!"
- Shevonne
40,000 now. Wow. I kind of enjoy the silly little worries of people.
- Daniel Zarick
wow. morons. Everybody knows that friendfeed's not gonna start charging until 2010!
- Vicarbott
@Jim - Facebook
- Shevonne
Shevonne... yes, I know. I was referring to Scoble's original post where he urged us not to invite them over here.
- Vicarbott
@Jim - We should. We would probably scare them from ever using the Internet. hahaha
- Shevonne
Shevonne -- good point.
- Vicarbott
These are the same idiots who are worried about being charged per email. I don't think they'd know what to do with friendfeed even if they were invited.
- Mr. Gunn
I wonder how many are over the age 0f 17. How many of voting age are in the group of 13,000.
- Franklin Pettit
I swear that first sentence just made my blood pressure shoot up 20 points. The second sentence rapidly lowered it. I have a few people added who unfortunately take everything forwarded to them as fact. They will never get an invite. This is my hideout from the people who shouldn't be allowed online.
- ilene
Chris, the group is not about pro features. They claim there will be NO free access to FB after Dec 31. Quite a different thing...
- Ray Metzen
And the group has 56,000 members now! Amazing... :(
- Ray Metzen
More than ever… 91,481 members at the moment of writing.
- Daniel Schildt
LOL, yes! Go go go!
- Chris Charabaruk
Amen
- Tyler (Chacha)
Hmm... I'm not sure which disappoints me more... People being overly anxious over the idea that Facebook will supposedly be charged for use. (This evidentially isn’t true) Or the knowledge that a number of people I don't care to count are here on FriendFeed discussing those that have joined groups concerning Facebook fees as if they are second class citizens. Take a good look at...
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- Jamie Howlett
funny thing is people not wanting to pay when there getting new games and apps that can keep you entertained if it did cost (which it never will) i sure would pay the Cheap $3.99 month
- Luke Moers
Of course Facebook is going to start Charging people money! Everyone knows it! By the way, did you hear Obama tried to move Christmas to January 8th? (its a fb group too so it must be real!!)
- Rebecca
The Economics of Star Trek - http://locustsandhoney.blogspot.com/2009...
rowlikeagirl, Michael R. Bernstein, Comics Forge and 29 other people liked this
From the Zeray Gazette: "James R. Rummel points out that in the Star Trek universe, there is no money: That always struck me as being exceedingly odd, particularly when I noticed that people were serving drinks in the space station saloons, and generally doing scut work. What motivated these people to get out of bed and work as servants every day, anyway? Where did the ambition to excel and become a starship captain come from? Why would anyone put on a red shirt and accompany the bridge crew as part of an away team?"
- Mark Trapp
from Bookmarklet
I always figured that banking systems had reached the point that everyone was embedded with a chip or something so that whenever they bought something, the vendor automatically recognized them and their financial arrangements and charged them without any sort of physical monetary transaction needing to take place.
- Jandy
Jandy, to get all Trekkie nerd on you, it's established explicitly that there is no money in Star Trek: that, after World War III and the Eugenics Wars, it was done away with due to a new social understanding of the greater good. I forget if it's canon or not that it was around the same time the replicator was invented (thus eliminating scarcity).
- Mark Trapp
Thanks for the clarification! I've only seen some of TOS and DS9, so I guess I didn't know that. Interesting.
- Jandy
...this future history always messes me up
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Can I mute this thread?
- Richard A.
From the post: "If members of a society can have any common object in unlimited quantities due to replicator technology, or experience anything ordinary in a holodeck, they will begin to crave the uncommon and extraordinary -- and will be willing to work to earn the money (or credits) necessary to purchase them."
- John E. Bredehoft
Before the world had a money economy it had barter. Before inter-tribal barter there was intra-tribal reciprocity (people divided up jobs and helped each other).
- Bill Romanos
After watching Star Trek for so many years, I think there's something to what you quoted, John, as well as a more socialistic economy: everyone does what they need to do because if nobody did, we'd all be screwed. So, in a way, it's an indirect barter system: I tend bar for you and you make my clothes. That, along with centralized planning, probably goes a long way towards handling any...
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- Mark Trapp
Heck, Star Trek is probably the most down-to-earth thought experiment into the end game of dialectical materialism. Proletariat Vulcans of the galaxy, unite!
- Mark Trapp
"an understanding of the social contract that's more or less repulsive now " Can someone explain me what's so repulsive about this? I'm trying to live this way (that is, helping others to the best of my ability), and not think about money. In fact, I don't earn any money now.
- Meryn Stol
*sniff* I miss the old days when the future was supposed to be so equal! Are you now, or have you ever been, a proletariat vulcan of the galaxy....?
- WoH: Minding her Steves
They named names! And planets!
- Mark Trapp
Is it conceivable that there is a detail of the Star Trek universe that was not fully thought through by its all-knowing Creator?
- Tim Ostler
meryn: I don't think mark was saying he finds it repulsive, just that society quite often forsakes it for selfish intentions, hence society finds it repulsive. You often find it's argued against whenever the subject of those who posess riches either not getting as much or getting more of it taken away from them to fund safety nets and things like common healthcare.
- alphaxion
Zapp Brannigan: "What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?" I think that says it all.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Alphaxion: I see that I wasn't entirely clear in my question. I wondered why it's found repulsive by some. I've proposed a "moneyless" economy as a starting point for thinking about a solution to our current economic crisis , but this immediately received much resistance. I'm not "repulsed" by a money economy, but I'm not repulsed by the idea of a moneyless economy either. The question is what would work better. There are big downsides to using money.
- Meryn Stol
To my point, I give you this essay: http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire... Those damn commies! "The primary goal of this document is to show that the writers and producers of Star Trek are promoting the values and ideals of communism. I should note that this has not always been the case; the TOS Federation was clearly a free market, and I can only imagine that some...
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- Mark Trapp
I've often wondered what would happen to our economy now if nearly free energy suddenly became available. The economy mostly boils down to labor+energy and if energy were free, what would happen?
- mikepk
It's interesting, Mike, that in the Star Trek universe, energy is the one thing that *isn't* in seemingly unlimited supply: many an episode used "we need more dilithium crystals to power the warp core" as a plot device, maximum warp is never sustained due to the amount of energy it consumers, and as pointed out earlier, one of the limiting factors of the replicator technology is energy consumption.
- Mark Trapp
Besides all the other reasons you guys pointed out, I always thought this was because they had found (or given by the Vulcans) ways to generate almost unlimited amounts of energy, which would make money unnecessary. It all comes down to energy, doesn't it?
- Alejandro
that's on a ship, Mark. I don't think it's the same on earth.
- Alejandro
I don't think the issue is the finite amount of energy we have on earth. Price of energy reflects the price of "producing" this energy, which is a combination of the labor costs and the capital costs. The capital costs (like oil rigs to get the oil out of the ground, refineries, offices for the oil companies, etc) also reflect labor costs. We never actually pay nature a dime. So what we're paying for is the "service" for getting the oil out of the ground.
- Meryn Stol
The main issue that for most people nowadays (at least I'm afraid this is the case) the "good life" consists of a continued vacation instead of contributing at least a few hours a day to the common good. We need to pay people because work is presumably something you'd rather not do.
- Meryn Stol
The starship is run in a militaristic fashion. I assume that if ensign red-shirt doesn't do as he is told by Picard, he gets thrown into the brig for insubordination. However, if that's what motivates people to do their jobs, it's a harsher world than I thought.
- Morton Fox
I'm crossing into dangerous territory about my Trekkiocity, but one other thing to throw into the mix is: replicators use goo packs, essentially a mixture of nanobots and organic materials, to create whatever you need. These goo packs are finite in nature (although the materials they create are recycled) and in some cases are rationed. So in a sense, they're like canteen privileges.
- Mark Trapp
Morton, I think that works for Starfleet, but it doesn't explain everything else. Unless you also posit that everyone has a specific function, and it'd be illegal not to perform that function; however, the United Federation of Planets is portrayed as a free society.
- Mark Trapp
Certainthe Ferengi are commerce minded. Hpowever, the Klingons and the Romulans ( to name a few) seem to be command oriented sovient style societies.
- Roberto Bonini
Most of the characters we saw on TNG had interesting, intrinsically rewarding work. @Meryn, I'd say that many, if not most, people like to have some form of activity in the long run, even if only to organize their lives. For example, in the real world, the majority of retired people I know fill their lives with volunteer work and/or the pursuit of hobbies. The tricky part is finding enough people to do the tedious stuff.
- Rebecca Lasley
"The tricky part is finding enough people to do the tedious stuff." Yup, that's the hardest part. I do think we can do lots more on "work design", work more on automation and mechanization (thinking about these things is a lot nicer than doing the tedious work itself) and also I think that a lot of tedious stuff simply wouldn't have to be done. Lots of consumption is fueled by advertising.
- Meryn Stol
Also, working as a craftsman is a lot more satisfying than being an anonymous drone in a factory. Economies could work on a much smaller scale.
- Meryn Stol
To quote Office Space, "Peter Gibbons: Our high school guidance counselor used to ask us what you'd do if you had a million dollars and you didn't have to work. And invariably what you'd say was supposed to be your career. So, if you wanted to fix old cars then you're supposed to be an auto mechanic. / Samir: So what did you say? / Peter Gibbons: I never had an answer. I guess that's...
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- Mark Trapp
I do believe we'll always be left with some "chores" to do. We could either try to distribute them fairly (everyone a few hours of chores each week) or we could explicitly assign status for people doing the "grunt work". Personally I think that current pay-scales need need to be virtually reserved. Doing only knowledge work is a luxury compared to hard manual labor.
- Meryn Stol
there is always a scarcity of services, and knowledge
- Mike Chelen
that and the oldest currency is that of the swapping of goods. You live in an area where you can't grow a specific plant, you trade items for it with those who can grow it. This scales up to various goods people can create that others can't. It eventually becomes the scarcity of serfices, goods and knowledge mentioned above.
- alphaxion
So, if HP bought 3Com for $2.7 Billion, is that like... $900 Million for each "Com"?
Brian, Hakan Deryal, Ninoo and 3 other people liked this
love that LG
- Thomas Power
LOL.. yes, i suppose so
- CoreyTess Trujillo
having completed this monster post about Twitter-based data for sale by @InfoChimps http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... i'm calling it a night!
Daniel Rowley, Atul Arora, Dennis Bjørn Petersen and Lora Lufark liked this
btw, did you know @louisgray quit his day job and is now an independent consultant? shocking! ;) good job, dude
Dennis Bjørn Petersen liked this
It was as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. #blogger #fail http://www.google.com/support...
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DGentry, rowlikeagirl, Kol Tregaskes and 10 other people liked this
louisgray.com is down and so is blogger.com. Oops.
- Louis Gray
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
- Johnny
I must blog about this! Oh wait. I will Tweet! Oh... I will watch TV!
- Louis Gray
Post it to Friendster
- Johnny
Guess that post I wasn't going to write can wait a few more days. ;) ;)
- David Damore
Just like the Danger/Sidekick cloud data fiasco...
- Victor Panlilio
Blogger being down is like Google being wobbly.
- Bernie Goldbach
This Star Wars quote is just as fitting for blogger right now as it was for Alderaan. May the Force be with you Google/Louis/Blogger
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
wtf.wtf.wtf.... who turned the switch off?
- Elle Ferrer
Outage Haz Been Confirmed. http://twitter.com/Blogger...
- Louis Gray
What Star Wars quote? (looks around and pretends that was original)
- Louis Gray
Oh oh...sorry my bad Louis...Now I know where I've read it before - on your blog 5 minutes ago =P
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
That's no moon.
- Louis Trapani
from iPhone
nothing on http://status.blogger.com/. no updates since june 2009
- Atul Arora
Atul, they know about it and are working on it. http://twitter.com/Blogger... and http://www.google.com/support...
- Louis Gray
don't know when would someone(read Scoble) say blogger is dead :p i love blogger and thank Louis for using it for his blog
- ffcode
Popular Mechanics Awards the Crunchpad As One of the "10 Most Brilliant Products of 2009" Before Release! - http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol...
Ken Sheppardson, Jim Connolly, Arvind and 8 other people liked this
One of the criteria for entry is that it is available for sale prior to the end of 2009, so they must be very optimistic this will happen. Less than 3 months in 2009. Get your credit cards ready?
- Louis Gray
Serious?
- Rodfather
It is serious. We all know the Crunchpad is coming. It's just a matter of when, for how much, and what the final specs will be.
- Louis Gray
It's not even out. How is it brilliant?
- Rodfather
I definitely want one!
- Jeff P. Henderson
I thought there was a snag in the hardware and it got postponed a few months.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
A lot of devices are coming out this year. With this, we don't even know the cost, battery life, or what CPU it ends up with.
- Rodfather
Rod, I was not there when the editorial board met on their selection. But I believe they may have some information that we do not, and if they do not, they have good reason for their choice.
- Louis Gray
I bet it will be US only to start with though.
- travispuk
Or perhaps just looking for something that was rogue, since it was started from scratch like a kid in a garage.
- Rodfather
I'll grab one anyway. I love mobile tech.
- Rodfather
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. - Samuel Beckett (via @Mona)
Steven Perez, Ashish, Brome and 5 other people liked this
The Cloud Consultant Spares No One - http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterpr...
Dennis Bjørn Petersen and Mo Kargas liked this
I hate that term, cloud. Larry Ellison said it best back in 2007ish. Something amongst the lines of: Oh so this means we just have to change all our (ad) copy. Hahaha!
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
Larry Ellison, frankly, doesn't understand what cloud is all about. http://siliconangle.net/ver2...
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
from IM
Storing data on someone else's servers - just because there are advances, it doesn't make it new and shiny. #hype
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
yeah, but modern cloud computing is a whole lot more complex than that.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
from IM
storing data on someone elses server doesn't make it cloud.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
from IM
So the advances...I mean "modernization" is what makes it "cloud"? Ok, Rizzn. Thanks for the lesson. :)
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
No, Mona. Cloud computing, in the context of IT, refers to scalable and virtualized resources not tied to a single server and generally sold as a service. It incorporates concepts of infrastructure, platform and software. Larry sells databases. He's only tangentially involved with the cloud.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
from IM
Oracle-Siebel...CRM? They also have a Social CRM platform which I think may be a little more than a database. But hey, what do I know. ;)
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
Social CRM is social CRM. Offerings from Amazon, Rackspace, VMWare and Salesforce (to a certain extent in their more recent offerings) are "cloud" in the IT sense of the word. I only cover this topic every single day for my job Mona. but what do I know?
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
from IM
For that matter, and education as to exactly what it is you're talking about, read up on the differences and crossovers of SaaS, IaaS and PaaS. IT and infrastructure isn't web apps, unicorns and rainbows. There's a lot more to it, and it goes beyond any single software component. I've been writing about this particular brand of confusion around the term "cloud" since August of 2008...
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- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
from IM
LOL. Ok Rizzn, IT sense of the word incorporates the modernization and complex aspects. Thanks for the IT lesson!
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
I didn't really mean to go off, but Larry Ellison is a joker, and someone in his position ought to know better. He enjoys creating confusion around the term "cloud," which he's uniquely positioned to do, being so closely identified with IT, yet using it to refer to it in a metaphorical "app" sense.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
from IM
Rizzn dude, you and I go way back. It was a fun exchange from two very different stand-points. I respect your knowledge, expertise, and passion. C'mon now. I DO agree Ellison is a pure biz man, marketer, who likes $$ and power more than the technology --but in this case (cloud computing) I agree wiht his words :) Let me find the article for his exact words, I may have butchered his...
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- Mona Nomura
Why is everyone picking on Gartner?? WTF
- James Watters
Chocolate Tart recipe - http://www.seasaltwithfood.com/2009...
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Oh wow!! *dies* :D
- Emma
Oh no...no cake when its an hour to lunch please.... /drool
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
is this egg yolk intensive? I've already got 12 egg whites in the fridge that must be converted to angel food cake post haste - I don't wanna bake two of those...
- Dane
david:
I want this tattoo (by miiitch) - http://fredwilson.vc/post...
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shoutem: Why @Mentions Work on Twitter But Not on Facebook http://bit.ly/S0M84 - http://twitter.com/shoutem...
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one of my co-workers who is a twitter-addict has changed all the contact names in his email address book by adding leading "@" to names in it.. :)
- RICK CHOI
ZDNetBlogs: A brain-computer interface that communicates thoughts between people - http://tinyurl.com/yc5khxp - http://twitter.com/ZDNetBl...
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The Star Wars School Bus - http://cache.gawker.com/assets...
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Leo Laporte has $1.5 million yearly revenue which is doubling annually http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009...
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Regret?
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Pişmanlık durumu mu var anlamadım ki.
- Burçak Çubukçu
yok ya heyecan bence :)
- Pelin
Afrika ise, çok daha vahim olaylar olmuş olabilir.
- sunipeyk
Mesela kızlar "sünnetsiz evlenmem" demiş olabilirler :)
- Ali Altan Saka
saatlerdir bekliyor olabilirler sondaki uyuyakalmış zaten
- Gürkan Kılıç
Such anxiety is universal among men.
- Jason Nunnelley
Soldaki damat mutlu ortadaki pişman sağdaki umursamaz :D
- İsmail Emrah Demirayak
Secret stuff the FriendFeed team has been up to at Facebook (Tornado, real time framework). Just released:
Stephen Edgar, Daniel Rowley, John Field and 48 other people liked this
From: http://twitter.com/fbplatform Tornado: Facebook's Real-Time Web Framework for Python http://developers.facebook.com/news...
- Robert Scoble
Check out blog from Bret Taylor: http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
- Robert Scoble
That's really exciting news
- Jesse Stay
I deleted some comments to keep this on discussions about Facebook's new Real Time Framework.
- Robert Scoble
Do I need a Facebook account to use this? I deactivated mine last year, still resisting reactivating
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
More over on Bret Taylor's FriendFeed about this: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Robert Scoble
thanks! great!
- Harold Cabezas
Sounds nice, i'm out to read the documentation :)
- Diego Sana
Oh yummy....
- #alaskareport
Are developers racing to get all of this established before Google Wave launches, or would they be developing it anyway? It's all changing so fast now, this Granny can't keep up with it all, (and I am still waiting for Facebook Lite to be available here in UK. I hate and detest those blasted applications!)
- Technogran
That Twitter is having 503 errors during a non-crucial update from a tech company does not bode well for an actual emergency.
Mathew A. Koeneker, Ladyepiphanybug, Laurentiu and 36 other people liked this
at least it's my area code
- Brian Hendrickson
i'm hoping one day, we'll all have our own Twitter rather than rely on one company to handle the infrastructure.
- Zee.
...I'm glad that just wasn't me. Reloaded three times, still get 503s
- .LAG liked that
Lol @ Brian...good one ;)
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
That's what open microblogger should be. Twitter should be an implementation of that, not the other way around. It should be decentralized OR they should get their act together OR they should be purchased by someone who will.
- Louis Gray
love the background Louis...the number of people that must have tried clicking on your dock...(including me). :)
- Zee.
Have you seen the right side, Zee?
- Louis Gray
:-)
- Brian Hendrickson
TweetDeck is still working for me though
- Sarah Perez
503s have been driving me nuts, too. FF seems to have enough of a user base to keep us amused without getting bogged down/timing out/crashing.
- Jolie O'Dell
O hai Sarah! ;)
- Jolie O'Dell
Twitter's never understood how to scale. It's just never been a management priority on their end.
- Seth Blank
Seth, that's ludicrous.
- Jolie O'Dell
people are looting stores around the world in protest
- Allen Stern
I don't know about you guys, but I constantly have the phrase "We're having an earthqu-" typed into my Twitter box so I can be first to post it just by hitting return.
- Louis Gray
lol Louis
- Jolie O'Dell
Dear god, you've bruised Twitter again, back to the API Apps.
- Swaroop
Louis: you're funny!
- Robert Scoble
@Louis no - i can't see anything. It won't scroll to the right any further for me either
- Zee.
Gee, Twitter should give me my money back! Oh wait. nvm
- RAD Moose
I'd pay for it, at this point. I... I need Twitter. I'm pathetic, but it's true.
- Jolie O'Dell
jolie - we can get you help - i sure hope you really didn't mean that last line!
- Allen Stern
Allen, if needing Twitter is wrong, I don't want to be right.
- Jolie O'Dell
jolie - give me your location, i am sending some people to your location for help :)
- Allen Stern
I do admit TweetDeck has worked great during all this event. I just close the Twitter column and all is well. :-)
- Jesse Stay
What platform is Twitter using again :?
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason, Twitter's using the Twitter platform - not sure what you mean
- Jesse Stay
Hilerious Louis.....
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Jesse, I'm trying to pick on the framework underneath. But, I actually don't know if they're still messing with Rails.
- Jason Nunnelley
Twitter's problem is an issue of priority, if you consider their downtime a failure. I don't. I think it's working out just fine for them. The more they go down, the more people realize they're addicted and continue to use the service. They've almost proven downtime doesn't hurt growth.
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason, I think that's a mistake for them to have that attitude. I use Twitter less and less the more they go down, and the more of these shenanigans they keep pulling, both as a developer and user
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, not to be a jerk (and I know I'm a broken record), but I assure you they don't care.
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason, that's okay - I'm a broken record in trying to get them to care. :-) I do know they're listening though (I've been on a panel with Doug Williams and Ryan Sarver, and chat with Alex and others frequently via e-mail), and they'll apply the things that make the most sense to them, or at least that they're allowed to implement by management and their investors.
- Jesse Stay
My hope is my "complaints" are constructive though. I've included a lot of information and suggestions with those complaints, so they can take them as they please - it's not my business in the end, but I'll share the knowledge I have at least.
- Jesse Stay
Maybe I should use the Twitter page less and TweetDeck or Seesmic more...
- Dennis Jernberg
Dennis, it's an API vs. web interface toss up. There's no doubt their biggest problem is with the web interface, but I've had API fail also. So long as you just want to read tweets, the API seems to be the best route, meaning Seesmic/TweetDeck, etc. seem to work best.
- Jason Nunnelley
The New Yahoo Mobile Flickr iPhone App, The Good, The Bad and the Ugly - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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My review on the new Flickr iPhone App.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, I tend to agree with your review. It seems like a nice start but it needs some features adding in order to be truly good. At the moment I don't see a great deal of reason to use it in preference to the Mobile site. In fact some of the mobile site features such as nearby photos are missing from the app. I addition it seems buggy - it doesn't seem to update properly and shows my...
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- Phil Thomas
I think that they will work these sorts of bugs out over time. Probably the thing that I dislike the most is that a lot of my contact's photos seem to be missing from the experience. I'm not sure why some contacts are included in my case, but others are not. I also suspect, but can't confirm, that they are censoring out any content labeled restricted... even if on your flickr settings...
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- Thomas Hawk
Yeah I'm sure bugs will get sorted over time. It'll probably be a lot better in a version or two. Not sure I can be bothered reporting bugs to Yahoo though, I wouldn't mind putting them in the help forum for Flickr but the Yahoo page looks too much like hard work. Shame the devs won't look at the Flickr help forum. I hadn't noticed any missing pics but I haven't used it a lot yet... seems to kill my battery.
- Phil Thomas
I can't really comment since I can't even get signed onto it. I'm gonna give it another shot when I get home and can get on wifi.
- ChiliMac
It took me a long time to get it to work yesterday as well. The authentication page wouldn't load for about 4 hours and that was on a wifi connection. Finally got it to take at the end of the day.
- Thomas Hawk
ok
- mustaphasma
It is a good start. Provided they continue to update it, it has potential. Facebook keeps improving their app so there is no reason Flickr shouldn't.
- CJPhoto
Thomas, check out darkslide for the photos near me feature. Nice app. They make a free and a paid version. http://bit.ly/sjJh9
- gfurry
Introducing the TweetDeck Directory - http://bit.ly/17S1NI
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Twitter keeps going down. I guess they can't keep up with Apple event.
earl wallace, Mike Chelen, Louis Gray and 4 other people liked this
is that what it is?
- Jon Bishop
Yup
- Andru Edwards
supercrash
- Chris
Yup.
- Nir Ben Yona
I don't really like it. But it's crashed big time -- not even fail-whaling.
- Rex Hammock
It's that stupid 503 error
- Jon Bishop
Got a nice 503 error... even the Fail-Whale Failed =P
- RAD Moose
Good thing FriendFeed is keeping up
- Sally - Skyrimmin' It
Is there a FF room or something? I am watching http://live.slashgear.com/ myself but wanted to see other input/comments.
- RAD Moose
Dear Steve Jobs: Please stop breaking teh internets. KTHXBAI
- Wirehead
This will be the first Apple event I. A while that I haven't tweeted about. The iPod events aren't usually chalk full of goodness to me. Although I'm stoked about iTunes 9.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
from iPhone
psh, twitter goes down on days where nothing is happening too :D
- Mike Chelen
Twitter keeps going down. FriendFeed FTW! Apple event is too much, I guess.
Daniel Rowley, randy stewart, Micah and 6 other people liked this
Good thing we have FriendFeed, though it would be great if an event some day would bring FF down too...Means a lot more people on FF
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
I think of friend feed as a private country club still
- Sherry Reynolds
Twitter down, FF up
- Ricardo Alamino
Couple the Apple event with the Gov 2.0 event in DC
- Benjamin Strong
from FreshFeed
@Sherry very well said
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Recently my cousin's head was run over by a car. This is what's left of her helmet. My cousin completely survived because of this helmet. Please think of this before riding a bike without a helmet next time!
Harold, Michael Pardee, Amy and 75 other people liked this
I've ridden only once without a helmet in as long as I can remember. Felt vulnerable!
- Adam Loving
from StumbleRead
It's true. They work.
- Andrew Feinberg
wow... that's amazing. how old is your cousin jesse?
- dave mcclure
dave, my cousin's 30, just 1 year younger than me
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
You can read her story, in her own words here. I'm inspired: http://thetopotheworld.blogspot.com/
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
This happened to a friend of mine at the beginning of the month. He didn't do so good in the accident, but the helmet obviously saved his life. Thankfully is on his way home tomorrow: http://www.caringbridge.org/visit...
- Steve Lacey
I used to ride my bike without the helmet even though it is mandatory in Chennai, India. But after reading this I am not even going to the next street in my bike without helmet.
- Sudar
I never wear a helmet. When hearing things like this, I always think of this article.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1.... In the Netherlands no one wears a helmet. It seems safe to me.
- Peter Stuifzand
I was hit while riding to work in summer 2006 & did not want anyone to touch my helmet at all costs. If my brain was scrambled, I did not want anyone to touch my egg:) I highly recommend a helmet especially if you think you will not need one! Mine was almost the same color too & manufacturer, but there is no conspiracy there:)
- Roney Smith
Bicyclists/motorcyclists that don't wear helmets are better called future organ donors
- Brian Sullivan
that's incredible...
- Jamie Allen
from twhirl
Wow, glad to hear your friend is doing well after that. I agree, helmets save lives. Regardless, I've many intentional close-calls by drivers who don't want to share the road. Unfortunately, this is the common attitude where I live (southern US).
- pete
we wear helmets for everything: mtb, snowboarding, wakeboarding, skateboarding & even surfing - skulls are fragile why not put a protective layer around it (i also try real hard to not ride on streets - a high percentage of drivers are oblivious to bike riders)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
I always ride in my helmet and stay to bike lanes as much as possible. Nice to know the safety tools work. Now, if I can just avoid that NYPD cop with a penchant for knocking people off their bikes. Hopefully, he won't transfer to LAPD.
- Jason Toney
Peter Stuifzand, my cousin would be dead if she did not wear her helmet. That article is BS. Wear your helmet!
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Point blank. You are a moron if you ride without a helmet. Sorry, but that's true and you're just going to play into Darwinian theory should you continue to ride without one. Any 'real' cyclist (e.g - you've been hit by a car - and yes, I have been) will tell you this without reservation. Helmets work without a doubt.
- AJ Kohn
I survived a nasty motorcycle crash in my youth and would also be dead without that helmet - which cracked in 2 like an egg (that would have been my head, as the nurse aptly put it!).
- Susan Beebe
A friend who's a cop refers to motorcycles as donorcycles whenever she sees someone riding without a helmet. I figure that applies for bicycles, too.
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
I was on the way to work Monday morning while it was raining, when the third car in front of me spun out of control and flipped twice into a ditch. When I pulled over to help her out she was just fine. She only had a scratch on her left shoulder from the broken window and was not hurt anywhere else. THE REASON: She was wearing her seat belt. It's nice to hear that these devices are actually helping us!
- David Cook
Wow! I wear mine! Didn't for years - I was lucky I guess. Thanks for posting that!
- matthew hunt
OMG... Jesse, do you have a link other than here on FF? I have friends whose kids refuse to wear theirs, and seeing this may help.
- Cyndy
Cyndy why not just link here - http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Brian Sullivan
Dutch don't wear helmets and they don't get killed by cars http://www.ski-epic.com/amsterd....
- Peter Stuifzand
Actually they do get killed by cars. But culturally they are not inclined to wear helmets.
- Brian Sullivan
Cyndy, with this being dug out of the grave, I just noticed your question. That particular picture is from my cousin's blog here: http://thetopotheworld.blogspot.com/2008... You can read the full story here: http://thetopotheworld.blogspot.com/2008... Search for "run over by car" and you can read about her entire ordeal.
- Jesse Stay
My brother would not be alive today if he did not wear his helmet while riding his motorcycle; please wear a helmet!
- Sandra
man
- Shey
If it's nice enough to ride, I probably won't be bothering with the human-powered bike any longer. I always wear a helmet on my gas-powered bike.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
As long as we won't have mountains, we Dutch will not wear those things. Otherwise we won't be able to recognise the tourists on bikes.
- Ton Zijp
Thanks for sharing - I had a mishap with a car, wasn't wearing a helmet at the time, was lucky. If they don't see you, it doesn't matter either way. Wear the helmet!
- Rick Bucich
This isn't as extreme as this but when I fell off my bike onto a sidewalk and broke my arm, I thought I was fine for a while. Later, my dad noticed that the whole front of my helmet was all scratched up and the visor in front was torn off! I realized that if I wasn't wearing my helmet on the 2 minute trip down the road, I probably wouldn't be typing this comment right now! Not that I'd be dead but I would have suffered some head damage, limiting my ability to do most things.
- Kevin Lyons
Helmets for cyclists are mandatory in Australia. Still gives me the shudders when I'm travelling and see bareheaded bicyclists on the roads.
- Kate Foy
This is why you shouldn’t text and drive - http://www.inquisitr.com/34106...
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Twitter lagt ned af cyberangreb - http://borsen.dk/it...
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Adgang-afvist-angreb - fantastisk ord!
- Therese Hansen
Ja man skulle næste tro hele artiklen har været igennem translate.google.com ;)
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
New blog post: you are SO unfollowed! http://scobleizer.com/2009... I'll follow on FriendFeed anyone who comments here:
MrBill, Ozer Wrzl (EN), Harold Cabezas and 144 other people liked this
Follow me!
- TheHenry
TheHenry: I already am! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Please don't unfollow me!! :)
- SKAgnozzo
Very interesting approach Robert. If it is working for you that is awesome though. Hope all is well. Give Roc a big hug for me.
- C.C. Chapman
Not too much unfollowing please.
- Tim
i'm in
- Tai Hsia
Can you follow me?
- Giorgio
ok I'll allow you
- Derry O Donnell
What's going on here?
- Andru Edwards
I think you're already following me Robert.
- Andrew Leahey
well ok )
- Denverken
Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
- Robert Kenney
[comments here]
- Nick Humphries
I will comment here! :)
- John Ptacek
Great blog appreciate all of your "likes" that I would not have noticed before. Thanks for all the time you spend educating us.
- Gary Prechtel
auto-follow always seemed like a bad idea. people can always msg you but your stream will get totally cluttered if you dont do a little bit of housekeeping.
- William Kapes
"baby I'm a star" -Prince (off purple rain)
- Michael J. Carrasquillo
novel approach, seems sound
- Danny Ayers
Okay, I'll bite..
- Tanya
Bring it Scobleizer.
- Todd Pringle
I agree, Twitter is much better this way.
- Ryan W
I appreciate your work, and your passion for social media.
- Evan Travers
sounds simple...
- Mateo Yadarola
Scoble follow me baby
- Jadito
Oh you are getting quite a response here!!!! I'm commenting so you'll follow me but the thing is you're going to LIKE following me because you'll learn all about Sedona through tons of videos and you'll love it so much you'll want to pack your camera and head out here! =)
- SedonaTV
Thanks for the mentions, Robert (and you know I'm not commenting just for the follow - I just like to follow you, which is what counts!)
- Jesse Stay
Actually Robert, now I've seen you've tidied up your twitter, I'll probably follow you there again too. :-)
- Tim
hey follow me scoble
- Andy Jenks
Meh, who cares really, not like you read everyone you followed. Plus unfollowed you anyways, not like you have to say that's interestined except friendfeed spam.
- Steve
joining the crowd - good move Robert.
- Adam
follow me
- Tai Hsia
welcome to Boulder
- Andrew Hyde
@scobleizer just created the most important tech follow list on Twitter.
- Christian Anderson
aww shucks, and here I was thinking it was just me who you unfollowed.
- Jess Sloss
Scoble in Boulder = Trouble.
- Jim Halligan @jim
I feel fortunate that you're still subbed to me on FF. I haven't even noticed whether you unfollowed me on Twitter. But you following me, still hasn't gotten me the chicks. :P Always fun seeing your posts, long as you don't block me, it doesn't matter if you follow me or not. :)
- Arlan K.
I did the same thing some weeks ago after avoiding twitter because it got too noisy. It was instantly better. But in the mean time I started to use FF more and I like it better here so I hardly go near twitter now.
- Murray Barton
You already follow me here on ff, which i use more than twitter.
- dthree
Hey Robert, so for following >1,600 is it that right way taken by Philtro and Filttr?
- Martin Adamek
Hey Robert - fight the tweetspam !
- Michael Neale
Don't think you are following me on Twitter anymore..please do and best regards
- Karma Martell
I'm still trying to figure out the following... so I'm watching how you do it scoble.
- Matthew Schrock
Good plan. I'm looking forward to your results. I'm trying to figure out all these social media elements. I would appreciate your Twitter follow.
- David Stanley
hope this new approach works for you!
- timepilot
Oh, so now you are only easy on FF.
- James Watters
Odd internal response, I don't follow everyone who follows me cuz of the very noise you talk about. And, there's no good reason for you to follow me since I'm unlikely to deliver news of interest to you. And yet, here I am, posting on FriendFeed so you have the OPTION of following me, a stranger who is not the same kind of SMART as you. Who'd have thought...
- Della Mauler
Interesting statement about original content value of FF independent of twitter. Twitter is where you keep your noise level down...
- James Watters
This seems like asking for trouble to me, Scoble. But, it's your time and bandwith to do with what you will. Since only a handful of people (by that I think I mean just one) follow me on Twitter, it's pretty easy for me to weed out the bots. The people I follow are my internet nerds (mostly the Rev 3 crew) so I know their interests are in line with mine. Hit me up for some edifying conversations about Lost and video games, Robert.
- Jeremiah Green
Here you go Robert! [also via twitter: @Scobleizer Therefore: only approx. 1.7 million "active" human @Twitter users contribute 50%+ of all activity, right? #engagement] Regards, @AAinslie
- Alexander Ainslie
The green avatar is so disturbing mate. :)
- Jordan Windebank
I'll lead, you follow. So where are we going?
- Tom Sheppard
I was sad to see you unfollowed me, but now you may follow me again, so all will be well in the world.
- Jodi
following the leader...
- John Munro
You're still following me - does that mean I'm a smart feller? ;)
- Brett Kelly
so glad I mail Robert a business card every month :)
- Christian Anderson
Della: the thing is here I can follow you and put you into a list and watch you less frequently than some of my other people. So everyone wins. But only here on FriendFeed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Some of us have been doing this from our start. Kind of cool, eh? But our numbers don't grow quickly so we were tagged as "slow." Nice to see you catch up with us! Also, this may shock you, there sre folks who follow and communicate with only 3 folks on twitter and they are HAPPY! Imagine....
- lynda spangler
Yay. Now he will follow a librarian.
- Just Joe
Follow this dot!!! .
- Bwana ☠
Comment!
- anna sauce
ok
- Vasu Srinivasan
Good test, count me in... I don't follow tons of people, I follow a few prolific Scoble-types and the rest are more focused in areas I'm interested in.
- David Ziembicki
I'm not following tons of people, just a select few. More to follow on FB when facebook has completely integrated Friendfeed-funcionality. ;-)
- Wolfgang G. Wettach
I only follow people I know or have something interesting to say, did you really have 160000 people that said something worthwhile???
- Gerard van Schip
Well I commented via your Blog so instead of repeating myself I'll link to comment http://disq.us/1ms9
- Keith - @tsudo
Gerard: everyone says something worthwhile once in a while. The trick is to see it when it happens. Here on FriendFeed, by the way, you have a better shot because good stuff usually gets liked and commented on, so it pulls up higher into my view.
- Robert Scoble
come join us here folks http://ff.im/6dUHN xxx
- Mark
Okay. But will you read and comment on my stuff?
- ☆ Mellyboo ☆
Robert, I posted this after Loic's decision and it looks like it will need another update. http://www.knowthenetwork.com/blog... I think there is value in stating your follow policy.
- Keith - @tsudo
cool
- Zach Cheatham
Hello?
- Vicky
following all the discussion of you unfollowing everyone on twitter has made me think about doing the same thing and starting fresh.
- (jeff)isageek
not unless we beat you in the Ashes
- Mark
Nice post Robert, and no surprise it's an improvement. ;o) I have seen it for me too.
- Rob Sellen :o)
1 thing I find Robert still worth following @Scobleizer when I am not on friendfeed & on my Hootsuite or PeopleBrowsr. therefore not much affected, not much 2 bother me, ego not gone at all. luv your post Robert it is a frank posting
- polou/indigo_bow
Follow me Robert, I promise I'm not annoying. :) @cluteman
- Greg Clute
from iPhone
Robert, thank you! I follow you and enjoy your "likes" and your energetic takes. I also enjoy your Building43 interviews! I am a constant FriendFeed user now. Thank you!
- Tobin Truog
This made me realise I must be more active on FF and comment/post more :-).
- Mats Pettersson
I think I'll give FriendFeed a go! Never tried it, but looks easy and I need to understand the interwebs better. @CodeSamurai_Com
- CodeSamurai
butt-kissing is not a prerequisite for being followed, he will follow you anyways :D
- Mark
Count me in! (Please??)
- Ricky Maveety
lol @mark. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
You can follow me, but since you follow a lot of people, you probably can't pay attention to the stream of tweets.
- Alex Knight
Alex..that's the WHOLE point he did this... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
IMHO 1,647 is still way too many people to follow.
- Alex Knight
I will NOT get baited into ... ah CRAP. I follow very few people on twitter, mainly only to find info from Android developers (my topic of choice). If you mention anything about the food you are currently eating, etc.. you will probably not be followed. If you post 80,000 times a day, you will not be followed, since Twitters interface sucks (not so for FF). Also, no offense to other social users, but if you resend your FF/FB/<insert other social site here> entries to twitter, I probably won't follow.
- Tim Hoeck
http://socialspark.com/blogs... Chris Pirillo is Scum.
- Mark
good move IMO
- Joanna Nicol
Love the post, love the response.
- Chris Rogers
from BuddyFeed
nice hanging out at with beach w/ you last week! follow moi!!!
- Raina
I always feel like scoble's following me
- Rodney J Woodruff
from iPhone
Don't forget your Dunbar number, Scoble! There are only so many people you can have meaningfully connect with online.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Mark is right. No butt kissing. Ew.
- Robert Scoble
"I always feel like, somebody's watching me..."
- Wizetux
Comment!!!! Ohh wait but you already follow me...
- Amit Nangare
Follow me, if you aren't already....please. Thanks,
- Steve de Mena
here is my comment ZOL
- Grim Reaper
Comment? What kind of coomment, Robert? :-)
- Mitch Featherston
Whoop there it is! On Twitter @jimgoldstein
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
Oh..Oh... Mr. Kotter...Mr Kotter..follow me!
- Scott Booher
Glad to see you're writing more than 140 characters on that blog. Doesn't that feel liberating? Maybe we should be allowed character# based on your metric for powerful/smart/newsmaker
- Noah Bloom
You already follow me here on FF, for which I thank you. So, I'll just say thanks for the phone call the other day. :)
- Jeff Harbert
I'll take a follow!
- Jeff Weber
@shaunhess
- Shaun Hess
Ok, so follow me again and I will follow you back. Thanks!
- Audrey
Robert - I fail on most of your criteria so I'm not expecting you to follow me. The thing is I don't care if you follow me back - this is social media and everyone has their own choice. I choose to follow you because you entertain and inform me. The relationship is 100% one way and I am more than happy with that!
- Pon
Robert - Last night at GDGT Party the person at the Blackberry booth said: 1) She had 'heard of Twitter, never friend feed' uses neither 2) Is SCOBLE is coming tonight 3) Wow, your Blackberry is really "archaic" and find out when contract lets you upgrade. F-D UP? Booth babes need primers.
- Liza + = ?
Interesting theory... people who comment more apt to contribute?
- Mark Philpot
I know someone else who tried this strategy last year, with similar results. I've been debating it. Once I got over 3K followers on Twitter life just got weird. Started to spend X amount of time every day blocking porn spam.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Liza: yeah, sorry for not coming to the party. I went and saw Obama's CTO instead.
- Robert Scoble
Steve Lynch: my Dunbar number is higher than yours is. :-)
- Robert Scoble
What is the best friend feed aggregation strategy of non-friend streams (eg RSS, twitter, etc)? Imaginary friend per service, then add to lists? Multiple services per imaginary friend or 1 to 1? Or add the services to a group? What are the considerations?
- John Brown
Keith: you can repost anywhere you like, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
I'm in!
- Craig Shipp
still wondering how you are able to handle such a big load of subscribers here and e.g. so many followers with twitter o_0. I am already (sometimes) lost with the few i got till now. Lately with one sweep almost 40 to 50 contacts in twitter disappeard and i have no clue why ... boah, how are you handling the noise? Hell, with so many ppl in, you might have a terrific noise? Or you wear just good headphones ;)?
- Ronald
I very much agree that being choosy is the key to Twitter. I'm not nearly on the scale that you are, but in my experience, freely following people (whetther they follow me or not) and then mercilessly cutting back on them over and over again results in a kind of darwinianly better and better signal to noise ratio.
- Tim Maly
Touche!
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Hi Robert
- Randy Allen Bishop
Liked the blog post and totally agree. I've been meaning to do something similar. What I do is occasionally prune and then add some "better" replacements, so my total is always 2000 follows.
- Bora Zivkovic
I don't see how anyone can manage so many users without groups. Then again, with groups you could just make an "ignore" group.
- Oscar M. Cantu
from iPhone
Great blog post. I totally agree on the noise level. I figure I have blocked a few hundred accounts on Twitter, and my noise level has dropped dramatically. Thanks for the follow!
- Tony "Frosty" Welch
Hello Hello!
- Sam Goldfield
Robert - I figured you were in DC from FF, but she had NO IDEA what a CTO is. Point is, she was eager to give you a Blackberry, but not me, and I wish I had a Scoble costume to pretend for 5 minutes.
- Liza + = ?
@Robert I think you are starting another mass follow again.
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Steve: that's not the problem. As long as spam doesn't enter the system I can deal. Keep in mind here I can choose how I follow. I can put you all in a folder that I never look at, if I wanted to.
- Robert Scoble
I'm in!
- Chris Rossini
Brian, yeah, but I follow you here. So there.
- Robert Scoble
Autofollow was a horrible idea to begin with.
- David Chieng
I kind of tired to keep an eye on who follows me now,the ones I'm following is much more important.:-)
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Whoa lots of comments I'm following you longtime lol
- Edgar Rodríguez
from iPhone
Robert: we need more intelligent spam-follower-filtering on Twitter! We need to fix this.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
@David +1 I think auto follow is such a bad idea to begin with,and people like Robert now even need to pay to unfollow these people.
- Steve Chou
from IM
How much did SocialToo charge for running the unfollow script?
- Shane
I'm in!
- rich brant
from iPhone
I heard its 25 dollars.
- Steve Chou
from IM
I've always been very picky in who I follow on twitter. I follow 40 people, and I can't guarantee that I see every single tweet. I don't scroll back usually, unless it's my "Real Life" column in Tweetdeck that couldn't fit on my screen.
- Tom Ribbens
Thanks Steve! $25 is pretty reasonable. Wonder if anyone else will be jumping on the bandwagon
- Shane
Thanks for your post. Last time I checked you follow me here on FriendFeed. OK not to follow me on Twitter.
- Pilgrim Five
Smart way to clean house.
- Jeremy Chone
u have already subscribing me although i am just a-staying-at-home mum =)). thanx scoble. u are really a nice geek. haha!
- ciw
Let's do it.
- Kate
this is like an awesome commentfest
- Edgar Rodríguez
You can follow me, but I never say anything. Oh.. wait....
- James Macgill
Sometimes the tortoise beats the hare after all... building organically based on getting to know people and interactions tends to avoid the ghastly spammers, seo peeps and bots
- Sally Church
Tap, tap... is this thing on?
- Yanik Falardeau
This is the best place to follow you. On twitter you only see post headlines, but friendfeed is where the conversation takes place.
- Michael Fidler
Ah crap. You're already following me :)
- Jason Nunnelley
I'm outside your sphere, but bootstrapping is bootstrapping right?
- Travis Bedard
Tuesday night for the first time in 2 months I UNfollowed everyone on Twitter who wasn't following me. Since you had UNfollowed me, yup I unfollowed you. My Twitter account is so /FUBARed! It only goes to page 506 to show who I'm following and after that it is BLANK! I don't even know if they show in my Home stream. So Robert, I value what you say. Know I can tweet profusely - but it's as @replies to others with the occasional micro-blog thrown in. Question, what DID I do to cause you to UNfollow me?
- Arleen Boyd
I hope you'll follow me...
- Shane Tilton
Follow me, eh?
- Joey Gibson
Trying to fill out those dropped Twitter follows?
- Jamie Elgie
Scoble: Have you convinced Guy Kawasaki against his "follow everyone that follows you" mentality?
- Kevin Pruett
please do what you must to have the most effecient feed mr scoble, the random will still creep through the cracks, ;)
- chaz2b
I still haven't really adopted FriendFeed, but I will get interesting here in time if you follow me.
- Lance M. Brown
How are your cleanup efforts coming along?
- Jennifer Ruggiero
Oops - I also meant to ask, Robert: how are you managing to follow the couple thousand that you are now re-following on Twitter? You must be using groups, I guess...any other methods? I find ~500 people to be a near max in terms of how many folks I can fully read.
- Lance M. Brown
Following your inspiration, I unfollowed almost 100 people last night and blocked about 1000 spammers, cam girls, MLM marketers, and the like. Twitter is more like it was a year ago, its almost like I gave my Twitter account an enema and it worked. Thanks for the original idea.
- Mark Edwards
Excellent!
- Don Strickland
Robert, I started out only following those I know and those I am genuinely interested in. I've only followed back a few of the people who've followed me. I have a second account that I decided to experiment with. I followed about 700 people on there. It has had about double the followers of my main account consistently. I am about to try some new tricks there with an auto-follow script I'm writing but I think I will stay the course with my main account.
- Paul The Raven
Robert, I tried the "follow everyone" (almost) method for a short time - then I'd unfollow about once-a-week. Now I try to schedule a "follow new" once a week. TweetDeck's group feature makes following lots of folks bearable. So does FF, but you've been saying that for-ever!
- Kathy E Gill
I am just taking it slow.
- Rick Cogley
from iPhone
Hey.
- Kreg Steppe
I will follow you if you follow me (Genesis)
- Keith Barrett
I may not be smart, but I'm smart enough to follow you!
- John Pfaff
It occurred to me (and surely to someone before me), that different definitions of "following" might be a big factor here. If I'm following someone, it means I'm following along with their updates. But others might see themselves more as becoming part of a person's "following". Not that they are necessarily reading the person's stuff, but they are willing to be considered part of that person's inflated Twitter posse, as part of the influence-trading aspect of Twitter.
- Lance M. Brown
I can't imagine how it would happen technologically, but it would be great if there was a way to ditch followers who weren't actually reading your tweets.
- Lance M. Brown
Enjoyed recent posts and look forward to more from you! Keep it up.
- One Degree Connected
I don't want to be left out please!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Your most active followers are on FF. No loss.If you really wanted to make a bold statement you ought to have blocked all of your followers and started from scratch.
- Benjamin Taylor
Been a while since I put you and Shel On the record...Online
- Eric Schwartzman
blah.
- imabonehead
Good article Robert. I honestly enjoyed the perspective. I found the same to be true, but on a much lower scale, of course ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
i'm in!
- Criz
I don't get it - so now you are using Twitter kinda like a normal person, and its some kind of miracle that it works better?
- Nick Lothian
I'm impressed you can keep up with 1600 people. I have trouble enough with the little amount I have. I did find that making FriendFeed imaginary friends and putting them in groups for those I'd like to read occasionally (but not on a regular basis) has helped a lot
- Tamara
Follow....how about some promotion!
- Bob DeMarco
i'm in
- Joshua Smith
from twhirl
9/11 Was an Inside Job
- bill giltner
Stop it, or I will have to get a restraining order.
- Sriks7
In my mind I'm important enough to follow ;-)
- Jonathan Callahan
Hello Robert....Whatever your favorite genre is...http://listen.grooveshark.com/#...
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Looks like you have a lot of work to do following everybody.
- Corbett Barr
now i'll have to write something interesting...
- Robert Littlejohn
me! i offer nothing but the warm feeling of having accepted a ff reject.
- Marco
ok. so how will you filter the noise now
- Kfir Pravda
Ooo, I've won the lottery. You'll follow me now. Wheeee! (how do you have the time to go through all of the names by hand? VA assistance?)
- Peggy Dolane
Interesting trend on twitter - I always wondered what sense it made to follow tens of thousands of people, too much noise. I'm finding it hard enough to follow 2900 (looking to cull even that down as I mostly tweet about 30 people!)
- Tia Singh
211th comment: WTF
- Geer
Good :)
- ★ Soner Gönül
I like your ability to influence so many people. I'm following you (mostly here - on FriendFeed) because it's one of the ways to learn how you do it (but, please, do not follow me if you do not see anything you could learn from me :-).
- Hanna Wiszniewska
why would you do that?
- james
got to get a pic up so i can fit the criteria, I only follow 45 people and some of them are on thin ice ( Im lookin at you Scoble)
- James Hunter
"Where in The Net is Robert San Diego?" (cit.) :-)
- Luca Perugini
from iPhone
I'm not kissing your arse,but i do learn a lot listening to you.
- Paul Downing
@scobleizer why would you randomly follow people who comment in this post when you just got done knocking FFollo and having to unfollow a gazillion people on Twitter?
- Bryan Zirkel
Bryan: because I'm following people one by one and putting them into lists on my screen. Autofollowing means you aren't doing ANY of that thinking. Also, autofollowing will get you spammers, if they ever show up (and they will).
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: Read your blogpost and that's indeed what I look at to follow people too. No autofollow and even close friends have to tell something interesting for me to (keep) following. Friends who are new to Twitter (no tweets yet) get the benefit of doubt.
- Patrick Mackaaij
If you follow me, great, but if you don't I'll understand. :) And I ought to do some pruning myself...
- Grant Bierman
Let's give it a try. :0)
- Toma Kazakov
I still don't understand how you want to follow someone who just writes a comment over here. Well, this is not the first time. I did not understand why and how you followed 100k people. I find it hard to properly follow 100 people.
- Sumanth Kolar
Sumanth: obviously there are degrees of "following." When you read the New York Times, do you read the entire paper word for word? I don't. Same when I'm following. I only get random slices of some of my lists. Others, which have 500 people on them, get 100% read.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still here . . . although tired after teaching all day. Louis Gray came to my PR class at SFSU and WOWED the 50 students [except for one who thinks we are making too much of social media] We won't be following him.
- Shari Weiss
I like cheese!
- Paul Puri
Shari: Louis wows me too. Glad to see the class is getting into it.
- Robert Scoble
He he :)
- Richard Holas
I still like the "stranger stream" of Twitter vs "friend feed" of other applications. I don't feel the need to read all tweets from everybody - and tools let me check my fave tweeples. I think mass unfollowing destroys some of the social contract - Robert you are lucky because you are well liked and can do some risky things but companies for example (not Brands of One) would be in...
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- Laurel Papworth
As @charleneli predicted back in January, 2009 will be the year of de-friending on social networks. It's here.
- Mark Evans
Laurel: yeah, you have to navigate these waters carefully if you are representing a brand, that's for sure!
- Robert Scoble
you can put me on your boring list...
- Charles Tanton
i will not get followed back: not powerful, don't have a brand, not a news maker... but i kinda understand the reasons
- Dani Martínez
I still think it all goes into how you use twitter. If your using it as a communication tool it depends on if you are looking for broadcast or 2 way. Its interesting to watch as some of the bigger names turn back from the broadcast and go back to the 2 way.
- Luke Kilpatrick
@Robert so when you're taking in information from FF do you have a feed of several dozen/hundred "key" people and then categorize the rest, or are you mainly searching? Do you utilize groups at all or mainly just rely on what comes across your feeds? I guess I'm curious as to how you're using FF to collect information.
- Bryan Zirkel
I have found Twitter becomes noise rather than a conversation once the following/follower thing gets over a certain mark. I think this is the dirty little secret of Twitter - if it just turns into white noise, rather than a filter, then it becomes less than useful.
- Michael Liss
I'm interested in how we'll all feel over the next few years as social networks continue to change and more people and organizations get on them. Obviously, many of us are getting fed up with spammers and are unfollowing them on Twitter and Facebook. I am also having a hard time keeping up with new subscribers on FriendFeed because I know less about them from their profiles and have to...
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- Cathryn Hrudicka
BTW, I feel like I'm finding lots of interesting new people to follow from these discussions that Robert and others are holding on FF. Cool!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Am I too late to comment and get followed?
- Hichame Assi
I'm definitely around :)
- KyNam Doan
Aren't you following me already? If not, you should be! LoL
- Thomas Ward
I'm definitely late to be followed. :D
- Faraz Mullick
I don't get it but ok :)
- Parvez Halim
LOL! I follow those I find interesting and which can give me useful information. And hope someone follows me for the same reasons.
- Flavio
Very interesting post - I've always thought that you guys who follow loads of people must get completely swamped by noise! Like you, I've found it useful to follow companies I use that have interesting products like Zoho and Evernote as a way of keeping up to date with their latest innovations. Excellent idea spelling out your "follow criteria" - it needs to become standard etiquette for social networks so that people don't get offended when they aren't followed back :) .
- David Meredith
aren't you doing the same thing here, that you did in Twitter? Choose carefully who you follow, filling your brain with pollution doesn't make you smarter
- Allison
Just finished reading the Mashable post on your unfollow exercise. It's attracting attention from all the other big names now.
- George Hall (Australia)
Very interesting indeed, I only to unfollow a few, cause I just never had auto follow on.. So now I just unfollow the ones I'm bored of..
- Jaap Willem
Seems like a good idea. Although Louis Gray also has a few valid points on his latest blog post why it might be a mistake http://bit.ly/19UKxk
- Silver Hage
I've never understood the auto-follow procedure on any social network. Even on Facebook, where it is obligatory, one can still lower the noise by simply hiding the updates of those who want to follow you, but perhaps also have little personal connection and therefore can be hidden.
- Noah Gray
It seems like the unfollowing was the easy part. Choosing who to follow again must have been a chore. I think it is crucial in twitter (and FriendFeed for that matter) to have a clear out every six months or so otherwise you get bogged down in an information feed you don't really care about.
- Chris Nixon
I can totally understand why you had to do this. I'm following 2700-ish folks on Twitter and I need 3 groups to manage it (using TweetDeck). I feel I am keeping up with most of my local community and the general tech community at large though I'm sure I'm still missing quite a bit of stuff from people who are not in the 3 groups. I also wonder how much more I can actually handle.
- Ken Seto
Um... well, I made something of myself, but then I didn't like what I made, so now I'm doing it all over again. Not sure how that fits with your criteria! Plus, I really don't have a brand or any influence to speak of. I do look great in boxers, however.
- Mark J
OK, OK, changed my picture. Instead of a green clock (a clock is my personal brand) I put a picture of myself. A lot of people told me to do that....
- Bora Zivkovic
I am still looking for info on holographic technology being used for news delivery. Perhaps it's a technology that hasn't even been invented yet or is sitting on a shelf somewhere. What say you? http://specialdee.wordpress.com/2009...
- Denise
Hoping your new look account has had the desired effect. No need to follow me, I'm not the interesting type, I'll just be glad if your insights, links & content continues. Congrats & good luck
- JanLawrence
Here's what's interesting, Robert, I've noticed an uptick in followers even if you reply or RT or like someone's tweet, not just if you follow that person. Then again, perhaps that's the intent - if you like or RT someone's idea, that's a kind of stamp of approval.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Hej hej!
- Peter
I did a purge on Facebook for the same reasons a few months ago. It's under 300 and it's people I actually care about. I've come "this close" to running a purge on Twitter but haven't yet. Maybe this will spark me to do it. I've kept FF tight from the beginning.
- Rob Williams
moving from FB to FF ... fewer, longer, more meaningful threads. welcoming your follow. cheers
- marc calamia
ok, you´re following me already :-)
- Torsten Eckert
alright - follow me... - thx in advance Robert Scoble...
- Nilesh
All that commenting in the past counts for nothing?
- Kevin Gamble
Hey Robert... Great post... On FriendFeed, I increasingly put people without meaningful and valuable content on a separate feed that I rarely check... Its a more "sensible" way to unfollow, i think... I only unsubscribe if I get pissed at someone etc. I wish, FF gave users the option to only unsubscribe from comments and likes (but keep the main feed). This would be a good tool to control the noise...
- Onur Kabadayi
I agree with Robert (duh!). I very briefly made the effort of checking out the new follows and deciding whether to follow back. I think once I hit a thousand I shifted to a model of occasionally saying, "If you want me to follow you, talk to me." Hit two thousand and quit saying anything or checking followers. I don't care if they follow me as long as they either say useful things like real people or don't talk at all. I've never autofollowed back. This strategy works for me.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I have a large difference between people I follow (around 2000) and people who follow me (around 1800) - I choose people who are important sources of information. People choose me if they think I am an important source of information to them. I never thought it would have to be a one-to-one relationship as to who is useful to whom: some are informative, others are good listeners and learners. I learn from people I follow and I hope my followers learn from me.
- Bora Zivkovic
I also think that those of us who follow larger numbers of people don't use the stream in the same way. It is more dipping in and out of the stream, trusting that the important stuff will be repeated enough to float to the top, engaging with conversations of the moment. I wrote a blogpost on this earlier this year: http://etechlib.wordpress.com/2009...
- Patricia F. Anderson
Someone told me twitter can be separated into two types. (id say at least two)
- Kay Proskin
Scoble, I am beginning to think you are a cult leader :). Look at all these comments! I am using FF more and more these days... Useful for eGuiders.com that's for sure.
- Marc Ostrick
I'm not sure your following me.
- Amit Morson
Hey Scobie :D Follow me !
- paniaguai
What the heck. Follow me if you like. I'll be as entertaining & informative as I can.
- Aaron Schaub
from iPod
Been considering doing the same. Your post just might be the flame that lights a fire you-know-where to get it done.
- @katebuckjr
Well done! Who need followers that aren't reading your tweets anyway.
- Sean Rasmussen
I'm considering doing same once I'm more confident in my use of FriendFeed. I RT'd this and it resonated with at least one of my followers.
- Tony Hollingsworth
'Hand-crafted personal network' is the meme of the moment, and whilst I can see the workmanship, where's the value going to be for you, Robert, in following this rag-tag (no offence people :) ) of folks from a gazillion different verticals. (OK, so they're mostly life scientists).
- Andrew Spong
um.....
- Spencer
My take: you can't be an authentic, credible voice to your community if you let 'sex & dollars' spammers hang on to your coattails. Spam followers matter.... in a bad way. Allowing them to be associated with you diminishes your potential value to genuine followers. It's a pain. It takes time. It's worth doing. More on this, if interested: http://tr.im/vJwb
- Andrew Spong
Hope to see more "old fashioned blogging", like it better than tweets. Tweets are bound to disappear into oblivion the moment they're posted.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
"Spam followers matter.... in a bad way." - I certainly agree with this. I block pornbots just as quickly as they follow me. I'm less vigilant about the commercial follows, but usually they go away by themselves after a while.
- John Craft
You're already following me here (don't care about twitter tough), so i just hope you don't un-follow, even though you probably don't understand what i'm talking about most of the time, since it's in portuguese.
- Diego Sana
So what happened to the advantages to following so many people you always talked about?
- Bas
Thanks for connecting here, still learning all the advantages of FF
- carece
@Andrew Regarding spam followers and the idea that allowing them to follow you somehow dilutes your credibility, I just have to disagree. To me that places the burden on the wrong person. I don't have time to waste pruning those who follow me, unless they are overtly annoying.My stream is public, they can follow me anyway. What matters to me is that the spammers leave me alone. If they don't, I block them. If they keep quiet, I don't care.
- Patricia F. Anderson
What is important is not who follows me, but who *I* follow.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Follow me if you want, but I gotta warn ya, it's scintillating stuff!
- Pierce Presley
Funny my twitter feed is much noisier but I have been very selective on who I follow. I have tried to make the feed relevant and actionable. At times I post things that seem out of the norm on my twitter feed but that is mainly for the few people who follow me that don't get it but I am trying to keep up their interest level. I also control who follows me, yes this breaks the model but I think the follow everyone model was broken and reckless
- Richard Gallo
Am I interesting? Dunno. I'm often controversial, tho. ;) BTW, we met in person at a Pittsburgh Blogfest, but I really don't expect you to remember that.
- Eric Williams
Enjoyed the post. I just started Twitter a few days ago to get away from Facebook. I like friendfeed the best - can't wait until it becomes more mainstream.
- Robby Parker
Awesome move. Consider that my comment please :)
- Charlotte Barker
friendfeed is definitively more evolved that Twitter. Conversely, user bases of Twitter is still its real (and unique) point of strenght...
- Marco Castellani
Don't want you to follow me (unless you find my stream of interest) but it's quite interesting the number of people that comment to get you to follow!
- Ben Drury
Hey Robert! So, I would like to talk to you about a social media company I'm working with right now. They launched a few months ago and their trajectory and momentum is pretty amazing. Oh, and I started unfollowing the noise in my Twitter after I commented on your blog post.
- Gregg Le Blanc
I'm asking the same thing Bas asked... what about your video on the benefits of following so many people? I took a stab at that method of madness by starting to follow all kinds of people, and following anyone that followed me... but I always felt like I was missing good content from good people because of all the "spam". I started to use TweetDeck to create groups/columns for...
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- Timothy Federwitz
@Patricia - reminds me that I should probably review all my twitter followers and thin things down. :)
- JA Castillo
thanks
- Keith
I like conversing with interesting people. Sometimes that means commenting to get followed, @cogiva. ;)
- Eric Williams
Hi Scoble!
- Pete Gilbert
I did almost the same thing - unfollowed about 1000 from my 1500, no attention is way better
- Maarten den Braber
Couldn't agree more. It's about time we all grew up. BTW Don't follow me. :-)
- Gee Ranasinha
Robert what's the deal with Twitter?
- stockmanmarc
Your post makes good sense. I didn't auto-follow & still find folks to unfollow because their noise gets too loud.
- Debra Ellis
Very clever. I imagine the signal to noise is sooooo much better.
- Chris Brogan
I've been thinking about unfollowing a bunch twitter folks as well. I'll look at SocialToo again. My initial experience with SocialToo wasn't good. However, it was during their infancy.
- Ron Hudson
I don't blame you at all. Leo was all over that yesterday.
- Daniel B. Honigman
why would simply leaving a comment prompt you to follow me?
- David Wescott
You're not going to change your mind and mass unfollow us are you?
- walidmREALTOR
Sup! :-)
- Jon Winters
I suspect it identifies you as a real person interested in dialog, David.
- Eric Williams
Followers are currency and you have plenty to spend
- Lee Odden
Bob, did you do anything on Twitter recently ? Did you massively refollow people ? Seems like you screwed up Twitter : down for a while... ;-)
- Enikao
Follow me! @carloscomputers
- carloscomputers
very cool timing with just before twitter goes down hard! well done Robert! @crbrowning
- Colin
@davidorban
- David Orban
I've followed you and have really enjoyed your posts. I think I would miss that
- Tom
Good to hear that your experiment has stopped the spam @lindsaydavies
- Lindsay Davies
ciao Robert!
- FullSite
Your ego is amazing. You make it seem like it is a special deal to be followed by you. I'm glad there are many very bright, talented people here who follow others, regardless of class, education, social status and not based on some snobbish criteria.
- RuthNH
DON'T follow me! I write in Italian :-)
- Lorenzo Strambi
Here I be
- Robert
Wow, this is a lot of comments. And kudos for following Followable people who have something interesting to contribute to your day. I'm glad you did it, because that means you'll find AND share more interesting things. This, in turn, makes you more followable too. Thanks for seeing the light, so to speak.
- ax0n
You killed twitter.
- Melissa Pierce
and now with twitter down, many will flock to here!
- Mark V. Fusco
Did this take down Twitter this morning Robert?
- frank barry
That must of taken a long time :-) I've always been a fan of twitter, but I must say they have struggled in the last few weeks. We are working with their API on a project and their seems to be an issue every other day that causes problems. Do they have what it takes?
- Chris Nadeau
I follow under 200 people and it's great. I can't imagine 1k+ . I add about three or four a month.
- Mike Janicke
I unfollow people when I find I ignore their tweets/updates. After reading your blog, I think we ALL need to be more judicious.
- Janet Barker-Evans
Is this why Twitter is down? LOL! Can't check to see if you unfollowed me. Hope not. You, Shel Israel, and Jeremiah Owyang were some of the very first people I followed way back before Twitter even had 100,000 people on the service. -- It's been a fun ride but, of course, the spammers always show up to make things difficult.
- Brenda Young
How do you really know if you should be following someone until you follow them for a while? Sometimes I don't start talking to someone until I see a common interest, then I tweet back and we start talking, but that could be months later. I don't follow everyone back, but I follow back those that interact. I will unfollow once I see that won't happen, or I don't like their tweets.
- Nadine Gilden
Twitter is victime of it own success, they have to re learn how to scal better, but more important they have to learn to share better.
- abdellah
looks like you'll need to follow at least 343 people LOL
- Shari Weiss
Friendfeed takes over for twitter finally?
- Thomas Resing
@Patricia I don't want potential followers to be put off by who is following me. I wouldn't want them to think I care more about have n+1 followers than I do about what they're going to see if they review who I've allowed to follow me. Not to cull spammers suggests I care more about my experience than theirs. To a great extent, the quality of their experience will determine the quality...
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- Andrew Spong
1600 ... isn't that a big number too? It could be you'll think again before you follow every one here :)
- Mario Gastaldi
Hi... do I get a follow?
- Jason Mayoff
If you are already following me. Will you double follow me? :)
- Brady
Still waiting for my Building 43 t-shirt. Not that I'm bitter or anything. ;-)
- Donna Tuttle
Respect your opinion Robert but we'll have to agree to disagree. Yes I despise all the FakePornSpamBots who follow me. I block as many as I can, but can't keep up. Our views differ regarding what is important to SEE! I treasure home Home stream! I read it, refresh, read, refresh and in minutes I have the pulse of the world... at least MY world! EVERYONE has something of value to share at some point. If I UNfollow tens of thousands, I will miss so much worthy of consideration.
- Arleen Boyd
Just another reason why it's good to diversify, I can still read your posts here. :)
- Luis Sandoval
Cheers!
- Jeff Wiant
Funny. I was catching up on news on Friendfeed for some odd reason. Great post; plenty for new and long-time users alike to consider there.
- Alex Howard
I'm still waiting for the ultimate tool to manage my followings - I can only manage to keep up with about 1/3 of those following me. I'd love to see something that can tell me what friends of mine also follow those that I am or those that are following me. Maybe it's out there and I missed it?
- TheDiva Rockin
Anyone interested in assessing the quality of their followers should check http://tweetblocker.com. It's pretty chastening. I aim to improve on my C rating. http://www.buzzom.com is a fun, fast way of decoupling yourself from non-reciprocal followers. You can select individuals to purge, or flush 50 random non-reciprocal followers at a time.
- Andrew Spong
Robert, your timing could not be better. ;-)
- Dave Martin
Great post, with perfect timing! Dang it, Dave Martin just took it off my lips.
- Vadim Lavrusik
I hereby rename this comment thread neoTwitter <waves at followers>
- Andrew Spong
/me waves
- Kevin Johnson
from iPhone
Awww, you gotta admit, saturation, the level of influence that you have, because of your high follower, count, is a tool of mass destruction. Seriously, did you think if you recommend an online service that people would not try it out? Was this an asassination attempt
- Peter Murphy
I'm glad i'm not the only one who misses /me actions from IRC, Kevin. ;)
- Eric Williams
With today's Twitter outage your timing is pretty stinking good, Robert. :)
- Chris Cree
Now to get the rest of the world to follow that same logic when it comes to follow/unfollow! I only started being more selective as Twitter (and everyone else) started getting aggressive with spammers or anyone that even remotely did a single spammy tweet. Now if only there were the same contact management tools available for the other social networks as with Twitter. No matter what though, I'll continue updating my status when I eat a peanut butter sandwich! (With Fluff of course!).
- Paul Monaco
Twitter couldn't handle the mass unfollow load, blew up...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I've been followed by Robert Scoble :-)
- David Finch
Follow iPolitics
- Jacob Kobi Gamliel
Now I think that it is time to think about a way to make money using Twitter.
- abdellah
@Mark, +1. When in doubt, the default delegation of blame goes to Robert.
- Dave Martin
what is critical mass for twitter? Too few and nobody interacts, Too many and spam bots overwhelm, Is it 1K or 2K needed to get a real experience?
- WarLord
Hmm can you unsubscribe from "comment notification via e-mail" in FF on a *specific* topic? This one :-)
- Patrick Mackaaij
Of course I thonk it is a different experience if you hand follow reading each bio from the beginning then these mass purges are unnecessary
- WarLord
I thought you already followed me. lol
- Duane @PreppyDude Myers
Not sure if you do, but here I am...
- Aron Michalski
I am intrigued how RT addict will RT now?!! (ps: FF please don't post this to my twitter)
- abdellah
I have been keeping my twitter account private a majority of the time lately b/c I am going through a divorce, but I really kinda like it. Have been reducing followers as well as the number I follow.
- Jackson Miller
You should follow me here in FF and on Twitter too!
- Karthi
hopefully most of us have proven our worth beyond commenting on this single thread
- andy brudtkuhl
I like the way you operate, Scoble. Thanks in advance for the follow!
- Dr. Frank Ramblings, Ph.D
Nice way of doing it...
- Charles
No need to follow me unless you are actually going to engage in conversation with me.
- Jeff Hurt
If you're already following and we comment, will you unfollow? *wink Hoping all is well your way!
- Dayngr
4&5 are my favorite! Those are big reasons I decide to follow someone too.
- Kelly Mitton
I'm lucky. Have never had Twitter spam. But then again I'm no Scoble either :)
- Lori Reed
I am the peanut butter eating bot
- Benjamin Spector
I'll add my name to the list. I came back to FF after the Twitter DoS outage. Maybe Scoble broke Twitter by all his unfollowing. He was the "glue" holding Twitter together. :-)
- Tom Newman
Robert: Here's the bit you missed off the end of your title here: .... and put them in that group I don't read :-)
- Jim Connolly
add me for your social media and the practice of law news!
- Rex Gradeless
Great post. I'm sure that some people might say that this kind of mass unfollowing will hurt Twitter, but I think it's just the opposite. Users who are following people they have no interest in just to pad their own numbers are diminishing the meaning of "following."
- Mark Denton
@Ulrichmargarita
- Ulrichmargarita
I don't know how you ever did it the other way. I am not in the tech world near as much as I used to be, which wasn't a whole lot. I just followed some random people I saw on SMugMug-related people on here when I started. You were one of them. I had no idea who you were (and still don't :-), but you talked about Twitter a lot too, which got me on there as well. Both services have really...
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- James Schipper
Follow away!
- Ferdinand Perez
ok 400 jackpot
- abdellah
Quality over quantity in all things, including (perhaps especially) Twitter. Loved your friending methodology -- those are the same rules I've applied since being on Twitter. Posted them onto Posterous to share the love with credit to you: http://lorilaurentsmith.posterous.com/
- Lori Laurent Smith
it's not about unfollowing, it's about filtering...
- Barak Hachamov
I started out following everyone on Twitter.Then I got wise. When someone's stream becomes more noise than signal, that's when I consider unfollowing. I realize that threshhold is different for everyone, but I'll take "what I had for lunch" over a dozen bogus "marketing tips" any day.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
Well, I am trying to use FriendFeed more after watching Scoble's video on all those monitors he had up. I'm not a big consumer of information and don't own a TV but this online social stuff has been a perfect fit into my life because I can connect with people who are fountains of knowledge on a specific subject or are "human mashups". I like both!
- Adria Richards
Why !?
- Bertrand Soulier
from iPhone
I've been reading al of this unfollow bits, and this point of yours:
- Donna
Hey, I think that today you might make your point about FriendFeed being more interesting than Twitter. Hope you are well. Talked with @fransteps this morning and she is excited to work with you at Rackspace.
- Kami Huyse
hi
- George Desmyter
I've been reading all of this un-follow posts lately, and this point of yours in WHY you unfollowed: "#2 Because I personally care about everyone I am following their noise level is a LOT lower. ." Is exactly what I do. And now I am starting to understand Friendfeed more. and using posterous to do aggregate posts. So is this overload making more people sit up and think first? I think so. At least the intelligent ones.
- Donna
I love you Scoble! ;)
- Carol Levesque
with all due sycophantism :)
- jeff hammond
This is a great move, Robert. It's also a lot more human...I was almost convinced that you were the only person who could actually drink from the fire hose without choking.
- Steffan Antonas
That sounds fair. After this morning, I've renewed my love for FriendFeed and Tweetworks. Until the next DDos attacks, of course. I will miss the fake porn stars, but I did when I moved from L.A.
- Scott Pierce
Steffan; I agree...there is no way anyone else could do what Robert S. does. It's good to see him become human.
- Robert Jones
This has been my problem for about the past six months. I routinely go in and unfollow, get the noise level down to where I want it, and then end up following back a bunch of new people, some of whom I'm incredibly grateful to get to know. When I had track, it was a whole lot easier to manage the stream, but I suspect even that tool would now be out of hand. I have a set of rules for...
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- Karoli
hee hee. i am commenting not so much to beg your follow but what a clever pitch:)
- Tresha Thorsen
Robert - I have not read all 416 comments so if this was asked and you answered forgive me. What was the all of a sudden revelation that caused you to reverse stance on Twitter Followers?
- Jeff Vreeland
It's difficult to maintain and filter a list on all the social networking sites. I cannot even imagine maintaining the kinds of lists you must deal with, Robert.
- Jeremy Brooks
Dude, you broke Twitter! When you unfollowed all of your 100,000 the other day you pulled the rug right out from under it, so it fell down and now it can't reach its beer. :-)
- Robert Morrison
Actually I felt rather sad being fav'ed by you on FriendFeed then dumped.. But again. I get more from you from FriendFeed, so oh well, stop talking about Following and Get on more with Tech! :P
- Du Senyao Peter
Me Me! lol!
- MrBill
i like the idea of importing favorite tweets into friendfeed. i haven't used that favorite feature much because i haven't seen any real use in it. thanks!
- Jonathan Blundell
When twitter is down I always wish I could tweet: checkout friendfeed. Nevertheless, how will following folk that leave a message here really improve the quality of your input? While I don't want to judge many of the fine folk on this thread, are they all that interesting? In other words, isn't this the start of the same problem you had on Twitter...
- Jon Mountjoy
what like here? this is a comment :)
- michelle harris
Well to bounce back on your Twitter is down comment I think it is time to watch this video again http://www.youtube.com/watch... Hilarious!
- 77Agency
Robert, I'm glad you decided to stop auto-follow (finally). :)
- Veronica Sopher
I'm in
- Jeroen Sangers
from Nambu
works for mw
- Brendan Jackson
from twhirl
Robert, but why clutter your FriendFeed stream? This comment is not to get you to courtesy follow me on FriendFeed, think you've established you've changed your thinking. :)
- L.P. NEENZ FALEAFINE
OK, I have enough people to follow so I will close the comments on this thread. Thank you everyone, I will try to get to everyone today.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter Down: Twitter Doesn’t Know Why - http://mashable.com/2009...
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isn't a joke!!
- abdellah
Glad we can talk about this and see the info via FriendFeed - I almost resorted to my bookmarks to check out Mashable and TechCrunch :)
- Robert J Taylor
reboot
- Kevin Norman
Is it inevitable because of their architecture that they will continue to have these problems until a massive rewrite?
- Dusty Edenfield
i dunno - they were coping quite well with all the growth. They did do a lot of work after thier last set of probloms. Pesonally i think its a data centre failure. Enough of the system ( or just the important bits) got taken down that its useless.
- Roberto Bonini
there's always identi.ca
- Imabug
Facebook is having issues for me to post, could it be some form of ajax update that was posted that broke things?
- Thomas Vincent
it caused by unfollowing 106,000 people by Robert Scoble)))
- obolonskyi
Scoble with his mass unfollow created a "disturbance in the force"..Twitter's servers had gotten used to that load profile and went insane upon the recent change :) Looks like Twitter took down FF with it for a moment as well (for me at least). "Twitter is down" shout outs overload? Or something about the feed input to FF hanging/bursting/etc. ??
- Alex Schleber
It's been having reporting problems for the past week, for me at least, unless I missed some new decision to reset the tweet clock. my 9000+ tweets and dwindled down to just the most recent ones
- Melanie Reed
i'm feeling really bad for the bots right now, since they are 25% of Twitter's traffic
- Kevin Norman
@cerveau / obolonskyi Haha - we were thinking the same thing simultaneously..
- Alex Schleber
Twitter's blog does mention the reporting problem. I guess this implies I don't have a legitimate account?! ;)
- Melanie Reed
Twitter/status reports they're fighting a DoS attack.
- Roger Jennings
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