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Tornado vs Rails: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Graham Sergeant, Jim Huller, Fabrizio Giordano and 110 other people liked this
;)
- Paul Buchheit
awesome
- Ayman Shurafa
wow. insane!
- Caio
Looks like Tornado won!
- Private Sanjeev
love the metaphor :)
- andy brudtkuhl
brilliant. Alternative comment: this metaphor is a train wreck
- Ivan Kirigin
haha love it
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Smashing! Simply smashing...
- Chris Heath
Ivan +1!
- Kevin L
so sad story :( trains are so unprotected..
- я был в лесу
physics is a beaatch for sure
- Robert Higgins
That video never gets old. Never underestimate the power of nature.
- Jim Goldstein
This highlights the need for additional Superman III technology investment.
- Jay Cuthrell
wow!! :)
- Oguz Serdar
:)
- Micah
\m/
- Friendfeed's Francisco
AMAZING footage. Dayum!
- Josh Haley
That was worth watching even ignoring the obviously cute pun.
- Greg Grothaus
Paul is probably just joking - but if he is serious about this pun i would assume it's for good reason.
- Chris Heath
and i bet paul just couldn't wait for them to open up tornado when he first saw this video
- Chris Heath
amazing
- boro
should hitler be saying something about it now :)
- vinod
MOther Nature indeed
- Mark Mason
WOW! That reminds me...I still have some video from this summer's train trip to post. Nothing this exciting happened, I'm afraid.
- Eph Zero
YEAH BABY
- Çağatay " SKYLAB " Şama
Just as I expected, it's all twisted.
- Dustin Sallings
Gillmor Gang w/ Facebook's Bret Taylor on Tornado rerunning today 1PM Pacific http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Kol Tregaskes, Rob Michael (Atmos Trio), Robert Higgins and 16 other people liked this
Wondering about hosting for Tornado, Bret Taylor says you might need your own box. If only there were a hosting co. that focused on the real-time web.
- Cliff Gerrish
Bret said you could use EC2, but you will need more than the cgi access most PHP hosts give you - effectively need to run as root to have the python process listening on port 80.
- Kevin Marks
It's interesting to see a framework (Tornado) that takes the changed landscape of internet identity into account - bundles of identities.
- Cliff Gerrish
Well, it could do more there - talking with Bret they don't actually bind them themselves, but by building in support for multiple versions that is useful
- Kevin Marks
Seems like it's the first step in that direction. Now that Tornado has been open sourced, there's a path.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: EC2 is nice, but expensive for a sandbox ($72 / month). Rackspace Cloud has 256 meg virtual servers that are about $11 / month. Great deal if you ask me. I had Tornado running in about 30 seconds on my RC VPS. The ability to programmatically clone servers with their API makes it a really nice place to launch something like a Tornado async app which could makes use of many low cost, low powered servers for dedicated connections.
- Derek Gathright
Derek: thanks for the tip.
- Cliff Gerrish
Yes, thank you, Derek!
- Micah
A post on $11 option and things to like about the Rackspace offer http://www.tonycode.com/blog...
- Micah
will there be audiofiles for download as a podcast?
- franzstehrn
You can listen here: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/bootleg...
- Jack
Steve its great to see Gilmor Gang up and running!
- earl wallace
I'm going to have to catch the rest of this on replay. Issues w/kid overriding attention stream right now. Hope we get this under control soon.
- Karoli
The source code for my blog (http://bret.appspot.com/), which I converted to run on Tornado this weekend, is available at http://github.com/finitel...
April, anil madamala, Friendfeed's Francisco and 57 other people liked this
Inspired by Ben: http://www.benjamingolub.com/e...
- Bret Taylor
No, I was inspired by you :)
- Benjamin Golub
from iPhone
I think you both are inspiring :-)
- Jesse Stay
Where did you find the social icons?
- Jason Williams
Jason: I am searching for the URL. I was googling for free social media icons, and it was on a page with a lot of them.
- Bret Taylor
Looks like you came across Handycons 2 (http://www.jankoatwarpspeed.com/post...) via Woork's "Best 5 hand-drawn social icon set" post (http://woork.blogspot.com/2009...)
- Ken Sheppardson
Tornado is now replacing twisted in its native domain http://superjared.com/entry...
- Tzury Bar Yochay
Thanks Ken and Brett!
- Jason Williams
The technology behind Tornado, FriendFeed's web server. They're opensourcing it. Nice! http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
Steven (optionshiftk), Daniel J. Pritchett, Richard Reeve and 23 other people liked this
Thanks, Dave. Hope it helps rssCloud.
- Bret Taylor
Bret, just thinking out loud if there were a REST interface for the backend that worked like the REST interface for the client, I would be able to program both ends without having to learn the internals of your system. It would be really elegant, and probably wouldn't cost that much in overhead. I was able to create an interface to the client side of your realtime API in an hour or two....
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- Dave Winer
Mihai (http://friendfeed.com/mihai) builds a PubSubHubbub bridge for Twitter: http://blog.persistent.info/2009.... Watch the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Daniel Rowley, alfred westerveld, Kol Tregaskes and 22 other people liked this
I wonder how long Twitter will allow this - they hated it when I suggested they use it on the dev mailing list.
- Jesse Stay
I wouldn't say they *hated* it, Jesse. Wasn't JK's response to you simply that they thought the streaming API would meet most developers' needs? If individual users want to use that API to connect so some other system, why would they object? (I'm speaking purely from a technical standpoint here... I have no idea what political stance they'll take)
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, what they hated was the bridge idea - they seemed really hesitant on letting just anyone access the API, and thought pubsubhubbub would encourage that.
- Jesse Stay
Ah... right... "Technically, someone could build a service to consume from the Streaming API and push into PubSubHubBub. This would be against the EULA though. The elephant in the room is control of the data, at any volume. This isn't about 100% vs 1%, rather Twitter doesn't allow re-syndication. With the Streaming API, we can require various implicit and explicit licensing terms for...
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- Ken Sheppardson
RT @davewiner: How to fix URL-shorteners (Scripting News). http://www.scripting.com/stories... [[interesting, important]]
Derek Gathright and Dave Winer liked this
Getting rid of them would fix them. Of course, I'm coming at this problem from the POV of a naif. Can't we just use words as hyperlinks in services like Twitter?
- aldenoneil
I'd like to reiterate my call for Facebook to open source the Friendfeed codebase (as AOL did when it bought Netscape). A federated OpenFriendfeed is the best for users - and fits Facebook's move toward an open social platform. I'll pay to run a server. Would you?
AJ Kohn, Carlton Hackett, Jimminy, CoG of FF and 211 other people liked this
I agree with this fully.
- Akiva
I can't imagine that the terms of the acquisition would permit this to happen. Oh, wait... Facebook take FriendFeed open source? Maybe in two or three years after they squeeze every bit of life out of it, ala Google/Jaiku
- Ken Sheppardson
Would that mean there would be dozens of Friendfeeds all trying to get us to come to them?
- Mark
I support this fully
- Ryan
yes what about a free GAE
- abdellah
Oh I agree. But with Facebook's record? HAHAH! Oh god, I need a mint.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I'll file this away under "Never Gonna Happen"...
- Andrew Terry
Jaiku is not dead. It was bought for a reason, and yes, it will resurface soon. you just wait n see.
- binmugahid
yes
- andy brudtkuhl
I agree with Andrew...
- Suril Amin
I don't think I'd pay, but I'd love to have it open source
- Jake Anderson
Worked for AOL. We got Mozilla and they got a much improved Netscape.
- Leo Laporte
Leo, I think you have a little too much "hope" on this. Maybe you're just thinking if Facebook was smart, then they'd do that.
- Mark
Facebook is much smarter than you're giving them credit for. I think.
- Leo Laporte
great idea Leo, i'm 'cautiously optimistic' at this point in time about the future of FriendFeed... lets hope for the best people
- Chris Heath
There is no value in that to them. Why open source something that give them a competitive edge.
- binmugahid
I do not agree. It destroyed netscape. let Facebook use the best features of FriendFeed in it. Keep the talent like the four ex-google founders. Open source is not the answer to everything. sometimes Closed Source is better for the users as well. Just keep the innovations coming and it will be fine
- hasanahmad
They've got the Friendfeed team. That's probably what they really wanted. Getting the open source community working on the FF codebase and contributing it back to Facebook is a win for everyone.
- Leo Laporte
On the other hand, I ike to see Laconica (identi.ca) getting more like ff.
- Chanux
Wow did this just happen today?
- bravestface
yesterday
- Chris Heath
Open-sourcing Communicator may have ultimately destroyed Netscape as a brand but without that move, I suspect we'd all still be developing for IE6. Great call, Leo.
- Jared Smith
Excellent idea Leo.
- Arawak
I just can't stand Facebook. To many people I let in from my youth that I don;t want to see
- bravestface
Yes.
- .LAG liked that
You're assuming that Facebook bought the company JUST to get the developers, and not because they want to integrate many/most of the features into their service. If they want the features, they don't want a bunch of clones competing with them.
- Joel Bennett
I'll send you a hefty donation for that Leo.
- JCunwired
bravestface: That's not FB's fault you let them in. sheesh.
- Gus
when will twitter be back up any 1 know
- daveccorey
There already is an open source clone of twitter - see identi.ca and laconia or whatever it's called
- Doug Holton
True. very True Gus. My own fault. Perhaps I need to setup an Alias account that encompasses what i really want
- bravestface
I already run a Laconica server at http://army.twit.tv - I don't think we need another Twitter clone. We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer.
- Leo Laporte
hay hay hay, sin duda un tema un tanto escabrozo, pero entre Facebook y Google, esto no lleva a nada bueno.. i'ts a hard theme, no doubt about that, but between facebook and google we are going to hell !!!!!!
- Đoи яамoη
Or Pushbutton?
- bravestface
This would be amazing.
- Adam Teece
The Wave *protocal* might be a part of the answer... or just giving yourself over to whatever Google wants you to use might work (i.e. Wave, Reader, Gtalk, etc.)... but I don't really see Wave asdirect 1-for-1 FF replacement.
- Ken Sheppardson
Too many systems in place
- bravestface
They open sourced the Facebook code base (fbopen)... the license is very restrictive, however. FB owns all code modifications. Probably be the same license for FF.
- Kurt
In know people that have replaced their email with Twitter....that just isn't right...we need one locator that many systems can reach
- bravestface
Great idea Leo. Now let's see what they do, if they're listening.
- Kelly Mitchell
Leo - your last comment is why I think Facebook bought Friendfeed: "We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer." This is going to be a product they will launch in opposition of Google Wave. It will surface Q1 of 2010 and will have some of the same features that Wave has - but be closed sourced to Facebook.
- Jeff Vreeland
I see what you mean. Facebook and Google though don't really open source their web apps
- Doug Holton
Facebook doesn't seem to have a good reputation with those kind of thing. Facebook promised to open their chat/IM system via XMPP. More than a year has passed since they announced this XMPP system it still did not happen. We still have to rely on screen-scraping methods to implement Facebook chat on third-party IM systems (like the 3rd party Facebook chat plugin for pidgin called pidgin-facebook).
- Gideon Guillen
I would love to see friendfeed become opensource. Mostly as a developer I would love to see the code. See how friendfeed works.
- mikemcmullan
An "open FriendFeed" could be Facebook's chance to get something lined up to compete with Google Wave. Without it, Google and Twitter are going to own the real-time communication space.
- Derek Gathright
Completly agree!
- Jamie-Lee Mclean-Davis
from Nambu
Absolutely.
- Ian Littman
OS FF would be awesome, but making it a federated service is an entirely different ball of wax. Just ask the Wave guys. They said during the original IO presentation that federation was one of the harder parts (though FF would be easier w/o the real time editing piece, but still).
- Patrick Sullivan
OS FF
- Malcolm Bastien
I think a integrated RSS/FB/FF/GW/Twitter client will be an interesting real time inflection point
- Jim Posner
I totally agree Leo. I can't help but think that this deal is going to be a massive success or a massive flop - nothing in the middle! It's simple things like opening the FF source that can help make it a massive success IMHO.
- Chris Cathcart
I would just like to see the real-time commenting open-sourced.
- patrick
wow Leo you sure know how to get a topic started
- Joe Geeting
I actually was hoping Twitter would be the one to grab it up. Seems like a natural progression for Twitter to make. I just hope Facebook doesn't bury it and they actually use it. As far as open source it? Could be interesting.
- Michael Bower
In a secure and closed environment it could be a powerful communication/collaboration tool for businesses. Features of a chat, but persistent. Ability to share photos & files...
- Ken Bauer
definently
- Ryan Peach
Right-o
- Myrddin Emrys
I would love for this to happen. Federated Friendfeed servers would be quite fun and is the logical step for a great Internet service which aggregates disparate information from all over.
- rob friedman
You know what, Jaiku was open sourced. And nobody uses it anymore. The fact that "it" (FB open sourcing FF) will happen or not is completely irrelevant. Because you will all be hopping on the next early adopter miracle train (read:service) anyway. So stop whining and move on. Federated this, federated that. identi.ca tried that. Again, no users. It's nice to talk the talk. Especially at times like this. You just gotta walk the darn walk afterwards. Which people usually forget to do.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Whoa... you should enhance your calm. Communities are finicky things and sources like Microsoft that are poo-pooing Open Source IMHO is the real problem. Me thinks that a better source of education to dissipate the FUD floating in the global porcelain bowel instead of modern political tactics are are needed to solve real problems.
- Myrddin Emrys
Leo, like this idea.
- Kol Tregaskes
adoption of open standards such as OMB, which is used by laconica, would allow federation among servers
- Mike Chelen
It will one hell of a start, I doubt it though...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
It would be a good thing, but not sure it it will ever happen
- Thomas Lee
I support this as well.
- Carlos Ayala
Now this is something I would fly out to support at the launch...
- Johnny
Another reason why Leo kicks ass
- Mo Kargas
If FriendFeed went open source identi.ca / lamonica would be dealt a serious blow. FriendFeed could become even more powerful if the people could tinker with the code and add many features that remain missing, or strengthen features that currently are weak. It will be interesting to se how FB utilizes their newest acquisition...
- Randy Shapiro
FYI, there's already an open source alternative: http://www.fftogo.com/e...
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
absolutley ;)
- Kenneth Reitz
i would pay
- cheapsuits
ive all ready got a amp for 5 bucks 4 twitter that was suspsose to help twitter run better guess what it dont
- daveccorey
no definitely not. it would shift everything to Chinese government... Damn, millions would have their rest life in prisons.
- xia
Any chance we'll see more code?
- Ken Sheppardson
i'm willing to wait to see what F8 brings... have you seen Jesse Stay's speculative post Ken?
- Chris Heath
Did I hear Facebook right that third party developers are NOT allowed to store data for more than 24 hours? I guess this might keep friendfeed from importing Facebook stuff since friendfeed would keep it around longer than that.
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Is FriendFeed a 3rd Party Developer or do they just suck data through RSS?
- Johnny
That's what I heard Dave say, and it seems consistent with http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index...
- Ken Sheppardson
See also Paul's analyis - http://beta.friendfeed.com/paul... - "This is also why the new API can NOT be used to import the things you share on Facebook back into FriendFeed (the way you are able to import your Tweets into FriendFeed, for example)." Not related to the 24hr limit, but relevant.
- Ken Sheppardson
Johnny: Suck through RSS so far, AFAIK.
- Chris Charabaruk
Yes, this has been the case since the beginning of the Facebook platform. Sucks rocks.
- Jesse Stay
They're opening themselves up for a world of hurt since this is unenforceable. Once something sensitive gets out, they can cut off the external access for the troublesome parties/developers, but the data is already out. Having the maintain permissions is one of the on-going problems with Facebook.
- Andy Bakun
"You can only cache user information for up to 24 hours to assist with performance. The only exceptions are those listed in the Facebook Platform Documentation." - http://developers.facebook.com/terms... - Facebook Platform Documentation is at http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index...
- Jesse Stay
BTW, there's nothing stopping a developer from just making API calls to access that information on the fly (or via a cache). Facebook wants to be the ones storing that data permanently though. They own the data.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: seems this keeps third parties out of the search engine business which is where the money is.
- Robert Scoble
Although, to be fair, they say it is to make sure users keep control of where their data goes.
- Robert Scoble
Johnny, you made the phrase go through my mind: like sucking RSS through a straw.
- Micah
Robert, it does - Facebook is still far from being near as open as Twitter or FriendFeed on this new OpenStream. The only thing OpenStream gives us is the ability to access comments and likes on specific posts that we originated, or create live, re-created sessions of stream data for logged in users. Nothing stored on Facebook can be mined or retrieved on behalf of the user without them being logged in though.
- Jesse Stay
I have to admit I am a little bothered by their naming of it all though. I wish they would have just stated what it is. What it is is still very cool - it's far from open though.
- Jesse Stay
Seems like false advertising if you ask me
- Jesse Stay
If I put my cynical hat on... Facebook has realized one of the significant sources of Twitter growth has been third party clients, ala Tweetdeck. These drive traffic, and give people lots of choice for how they interact with the site. Today's announcement seems to be primarily about supporting these sorts of clients for Facebook, as demonstrated by all the Air/Silverlight demos.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, yes, that was the main purpose - it was a highly requested feature, along with opening of comments and likes. It's not open though. Facebook, with exception to the openly searchable Pages, will never be 100% searchable by third-party clients.
- Jesse Stay
It also seems there's a core group of open and closed source developers who work together, know each other, and are driving interoperability between the services they're involved with, using protocols they're developing. I.e. Dave Morin, the Plaxo guys, Chris Messina, David Recordron, et al.
- Ken Sheppardson
So... tell me if I'm wrong... but it seems the new 'Openness' is just Facebook building walls that jut out from the castle that other people can build inside of? Building a fortress around a few villages doesn't make those villages free
- Johnny
If Facebook gets their way, Facebook Pages will be the equivalent to Twitter for them. They want friends and profiles to be completely personal, and completely controlled by the user. That said, I predict you'll be able to link your personal profile with your Page at some point to give it some sort of public view if you chose to do so.
- Jesse Stay
Johnny, correct, with exception to Pages. I'm still unclear how this OpenStream API works with Pages - it's supposed to also work with them, and that ought to be 100% open since Pages are indexable by search engines already.
- Jesse Stay
Taking my cynical hat off... I'm psyched to see the open protocols getting built and supported, and this is the stuff we'll need to have to get everything all wired up together. Seeing established sites and services implementing these standards is Good News... even if they're not going as far as many of us would like.
- Ken Sheppardson
I mean, I'm all for openness, but to be frank, unless my Mum and Dad can see my profile and pictures without having to sign up for an account themselves, kinda seems a bit inside-baseball at this stage.
- Johnny
Johnny, create a Facebook Page and they can see your profile and pictures without having to sign up for an account themselves.
- Jesse Stay
Personally if they can enforce this it is not a bad thing. However practically, I doubt they will be able to control the long term storage of data by 3rd parties. I suppose this also gives them a step in the right direction to control privacy issues and ensure they are compatible with some of the (non-US) privacy laws and handling of personal information.
- Thomas V. Fischer
Thomas, it's easy to enforce - just one user needs to complain, they look at the app, and revoke the permissions to the developer to continue accessing the API. Much easier than it is for Twitter ATM
- Jesse Stay
A new design for FriendFeed at http://beta.friendfeed.com/ - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Sharon McPherson, Anthony K. Valley ©, kosmar and 300 other people liked this
Great job!
- Robert Scoble
Nice job friendfeed!
- Kevin Mohr
Awesome work!
- Aaron Draczynski
realtime by default now eh? nice
- Karl Rosaen
I hate it. I love it! I haven't even scrolled down to the bottom yet. Hold on.......ok, it's good. :-)
- Jeff Eddings
Cheers Bret & team - it's feeling pretty good so far (which includes initial gut reaction)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Nice job. I can at the very least say it is a big improvement aesthetically. I haven't finished checking everything out yet, but so far so good.
- Rolf Schewe
why there is no Re-share function?
- Tony
I miss the ability to have a Firefox sidebar setup that just had my list of items scrolling past and nothing else along the side like this view: http://friendfeed.com/realtim...
- Justin Yost
Reshare will be back. Just an artifact of beta-testing, didn't make it in for this morning
- Bret Taylor
don't like the grey background
- Moses
Any new comment can not move up this item?
- Tony
Our settings vary to prevent things shuffling around excessively. We bubble up when someone you are subscribed to comments.
- Bret Taylor
also wish i can add links/pics/embed in the "comments"...for example, i'd like to include an image of my email from http://www.emailcover.com, but it only shows up as a link
- brainno722 (Peter)
thanks, it looks awesome!
- Dani Martínez
Congratulations guys on a job well done!
- Thomas Hawk
Love it, but needs a floating Pause button.
- Barak B
+1 Barak
- Kenton
Barak, very good idea
- Kol Tregaskes
The filter is great! But any filter can not output to friends.
- Tony
+1 Barak
- Tony
what filter?
- Iphigenie
adding a filter sucks, things like has comments from should ajax populate :(
- Stuart Evans
from twhirl
you can create filters when you click "filter"
- Tony
The anticipation was high, but so was delivery! Great job FF team.
- Micah
Awesome!
- Iván Abrego
Like it! Facebook import (notes & link, not status) seems broken though...
- Alex Lomas
A keyboard shortcut for Pause, maybe?
- Micah
Thanks, Alex, we will look into it,
- Bret Taylor
Can you open an existing conversation in a new window?
- Barak B
1st look is good, like the real time...didn't make it to the bottom the first few minutes. Also the comment box drops down as I am commenting now...message got off screen ;)
- Sanne Buurma
please add keyboard shortcut for play/pause feed
- Ouriel Ohayon
Agree with Andy, dislike the fugly grey
- Sally Church
Barak: click on the timestamp to open a conversation in a new window.
- Kevin Mohr
Barack B : you can click the time and select open in new window.
- Simon Wicks
refresh the page would move up the item which have newest comment?
- Tony
sad grey: why don't you let everyone choose the colour of the background?
- Davide Leonelli
Grey or not, rather think about what the beta has to offer in functionality
- Sanne Buurma
Please, bring back service icons near each post — it's very hard to scan information flow without them. Also hope you'll do something with new subscription module — it's unuseful while managing a lot of imaginary friends.
- Yury Vetrov
Nice. Good job guys.
- Peter Kruit
The colouring needs looking at for sure. Unless, of course, you are going to redesign the logo? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
dislike the grey, sorry
- Manuela
Agree on colouring - but hey its a beta. Thanks Bret.
- Roberto Bonini
perhaps highlighting your own comments in the flood of comments (easier to scan/find)?
- brainno722 (Peter)
agree, gray background is bothersome.
- AJ Kohn
Wait, is the frequent shifting up and down of items I'm reading (i.e. the items in view) really supposed to work out well? I suppose you guys tried it for a while and you just got used to it?
- j1m
Peter, yep but thankfully the Cleaner FriendFeed GM script still works in Chrome and FFox, which does this for you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't like: broke my Blocks list, Block not available from Hover Menu
- Will Higgins™
Why Will Higgins have a superscript of "TM"? how typed in?
- Tony
it keeps the bad low-contrast grey on white text for comments that deters me from reading it. You made the main text bigger, now make the comment text black.
- Kevin Marks
Fantastic job guys !
- David Berrebi
can't see source of posts and comments
- Moses
Will: block will be back, just missing today, but it is not something we are removing (just something we didn't get in for this morning)
- Bret Taylor
I think you guys should really embrace the idea of hashtags. Let us add them to other people's posts, having various services auto-tag imported items, let us search on them using filters. Tagging is one great way for us to get a handle on the volume of information here.
- Kevin Kuphal
What's with the orange and the green on the side? Its a bit ugly if you ask me. Also, is there a way to change this, as well as make the beta permanent? (I like living on the cutting edge).
- darnell
I too like the orange and green. It's the blue I'm not sure about. :-)
- Daniel Dulitz
I like the FF blue
- nouhad
Yeah, but it clashes with the logo. Either Friendfeed needs to change their logo, or get rid of the colors. Or (even better) allow users to change the colors. :-)
- darnell
Looks horrible to me, I think we should have a customizable interface more like iGoogle, I like the idea though, just more customization, like sidebar customization, friend lists, realtime widget, chat widget, all movable and arrangeable, there sure is enough space etc...
- Kyle Weller
I'm with Kyle and Darnell - I like being able to customize my GMail colours, and having that feature on FF would be cool
- nouhad
Ignoring 71 previous comments... I really like the new design! One request: allow the pause button to follow my cursor as a scroll down the page!
- Chris Messina
+1 Chris Messina. That would be an awesome feature.
- Beau Liening
Add a floating "COMMENT" feature at the bottom of each thread, so I don't have to scroll up to click "comment"... this is a weird experience in new beta UI
- Susan Beebe
@Ari: This is why I really think tagging is what they need to focus on. If we could each add #ffbeta or something to our own posts as well as others, you get the trending and other features that twitter already has. Combine this with filters and you really get some killer information management features.
- Kevin Kuphal
I really like having one UI instead of different modes (normal, realtime, miniwindow), but to support the old "mini window" experience, perhaps allow the right hand side bar with filters and subscriptions to be collapsible?
- Karl Rosaen
@Karl: API is key here. Twitter isn't massively popular because their website rocks. Twitter is massively popular because there's a massive layer of applications built on top of it. Build that for FF and you have the same potential growth
- Kevin Kuphal
I wish it could use more of the screen real estate of my monitor, given my normal window size, it has large amounts of unused space on either size of the content due to the fixed layout. Maybe a multi-column mode?
- Ray Cromwell
Nice job! but, where are my rooms??
- Krishnamoorthy
@Krishnamoorthy rooms I believe have changed to feeds beta.friendfeed.com/[room_name]
- Lou Paglia
the new design works better for me. I am sure there will be glitches, but so far so good.
- Sharon Hurley Hall
Is there a way to change my prefs over to to the beta so I don't have to keep entering beta.friendfeed...?
- Ryan Stanley
UI suggestion: there's a link to expand all comments, there should be one to collapse them as wel.
- Ryan Stanley
UI suggestion: after expanding comments you scroll all the way to the bottom reading the thread, then you have scroll all the way back up to click the Comment link. Why not have it at the bottom of the thread too.
- Ryan Stanley
Feature suggestion: FF needs a built-in way of referring to people publicly, just like Twitter's @. Perhaps use the same convention. But there needs to be a way people to address each other in public threads, so a user can make sure to be informed when people are talking or referring to them.
- Ryan Stanley
going to read through faq - roadmap of what made beta & what's going away would be nice - big concern for me is the lose of ability to expand lists to see individual participants - i find that one of ff's strongest features - that and block but i see from earlier in this thread that its will make it in later in beta (whew)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Um, Twitter much?
- Christiana
A Pause button that follows you on page scroll could be more distracting than it's worth. But how about something like it appears upon a white space mousedown/mouseup event.
- Micah
You guys should use this userstyle: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajbatac...
- Kyle Weller
Curious about how the new design will affect the iPhone version of the site...?
- Chris Messina
welcome qwerty. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hmm, I tried to read this thread, but I never got to the bottom, because the unexpected shifts of the text just became too much after a while. Fundamentally, if the page keeps shifting up and down unexpectedly, it's hard to see how anyone's ever going to read it -- hence the many requests for a floating pause button, which would help. You could also imagine pause on hover. Being able to read down the page without having the text disappear seems to me like the #1 use case of ff.
- j1m
I like it.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Of course, it's not really like you want Pause -- the real-time updates are great when they're below wherever the eyes are :-)
- j1m
Bret - Great job! There are certainly things to clean up before this interface goes to the main page. Rooms should REALLY be on the subscribed list on the right hand column. I would LOVE to be able to put Blank Lines in comments. I don't care if they count for a whole lines worth of characters (as opposed to a more common one character for the cr/lf) Blank lines make comments more legible and clear than just a runtogether paragraph.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I don't like how the interface STILL loses my place if I subscribe to someone while posting a comment (or even reading it!) I should be able to subscribe to YOU while I read YOU and not lose my page place. The Page should need to be refreshed to reset everyone because of the new subscription.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I don't know about the queued items, I like the real time feed, having selectable speeds instead of "over-caffination required mode" would be good. Most discussions this is irrelevant, but the discussion on tis new beta this morning (i.e. on scoble's feed) showed how insane that can be.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The real-time-only feed in the beta is causing Safari 4b on my MacBook use up a lot of CPU cycles, hence depleting the battery faster. I'm sure FF3 will too. Please consider an "ECO Mode" similar to the current standard mode, which only refreshes once every few minutes, for those running their machines on battery power. Without such an eco-mode, and with the rapid-fire pace of live updates, I fear that I won't be using FFeed much at all. Certainly not leaving that tab open for hours on end like I used to.
- Siddharth Deb
I don't know if I've done something, or you guys did, but when I look here, I only have a few services setup in the account, when I go to the old interface I have a LOT more -I'm not certain that everything is feeding through? (i.e. I have Digg and Disqus set up, I see the correct list of icons on the old interface, but on the beta "settings" popup, No Dice. Even if this is irrelevant to the actual data flow, please fix this to make me sleep well at night. ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
One more thing - Could we have a character counter in the comments? It would be REALLY nice, if my account is setup to post this comment to my twitter account, and it's going to post the link to this discussion, please Add the number of characters in the link (plus a space) to the total character count. That way I won't be truncating the comment and/or the URL when it gets to twitter.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Another thing: I used to be able to click the "More" next to a single discussion, and "Link to this discussion" Where is that? If this is an outmoded way of thinking please let me know. Otherwise, um...can we have that feature back?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: the timestamp ("9 hours ago") is the permalink
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: You rock! Thanks!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
do you need a techno dunce to help the average joe make sense of this?? haha...i love it...
- Lauren Shanahan
Very twitter like. But better due to nice conversational.
- xia
I actually kinda like the grey... though it does look like it's an opportunity to let companies brand the background in some way.
- Frankie Warren
For cc to Twitter functionality, can the number of characters be a count-down instead of a count-up?
- Winston Teo
I'd like to second the notion that there should be a way to address an individual within a thread...the agreed upon "Rob:" works great, but maybe could be clickable so that there's no confusion as to which Rob or which Scoble you're talking to ;) (i.e. maybe a CTRL-Click or something on the person's name after their comment to start a new comment with their name at the beginning? )
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The grey background looks kinda dullish, and it looks like someone ran out of ideas for colours..
- Winston Teo
IMO avatars occupy way too much real estate now, I liked the smaller ones better.
- ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
thsi is nothing on the new design, but after being on here all night with no attention to a down twitter, I am reminded of this: It would be nice if I could set the post to twitter for comments and likes a) permanent b) off or C) on a per comment/like basis -twitter users say this "yeah, when ppl I follow flood me with FF spam ... I usually unfollow ... even block if it irritates me enough." And I would like to be able to be easily selective of what gets put through, and it would get more GOOD attn for FF
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
please, for the love of god, move the "comment" link to the BOTTOM of the list of comments. seriously, am I the only one who can't believe this hasn't been fixed for so long?
- Dossy Shiobara
I like it
- Cristian
Great stuff! :-) FriendFeed does it better than Facebook. Please go real-time all the way for subscription requests and confirmatoions too.
- Nenad Nikolic
from twhirl
I dont like nofollows on friendfeed and links are moved to urls very bad :(
- Turkey banned Bloggum :(
I like quick stats on user feed on top right of screen.
- Turkey banned Bloggum :(
Love the new friendfeed!
- Chris Martin
from Nambu
It's not bad, but I prefer the smoothness of the old one to the lines and edges in this new one.
- scott willeke
I love the new letter-counting post widget in the beta though.
- scott willeke
at first glance, find it much more readable than the old one. Pity there still isn't "my items that were liked or commented by others"
- Stephanie Booth
from twhirl
Bret: all the videos are now up at http://scobleizer.blip.tv -- thanks for inviting me and for all you do.
- Robert Scoble
I like this beta
- Bannka
Stephanie: comments:1 likes:1 from:sbooth
- Justin Long
stephanie & justin - that is in the catch all http://beta.friendfeed.com/filter... - i went and liked/commented on something from each of you that had no other activity - you should both see that bubble up in /discussions...
- mike "glemak" dunn
LOVE THE NEW BETA ! the new filter is so powerful, more powerful if you could add "language parameter"!!
- foxmachia {山石}
still waiting for direct-to-room links on the right column, is it planned? (with lastupdated timestamps if possible)
- Kemal Hadimli
Nice.
- Thomas Chai
Tour of SmugMug's offices and monster big photos - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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wow - great stuff Robert! Wish I were there - looks like not only some beautiful images but the user group seems very impressive. Thanks for the peek inside!
- planetMitch
Great video.
- Loren Heiny
Really impressive! Thanks for sharing! LM
- lygea
The group effort to innovate to achieve the end result photographs of buildings - fantastic!
- Micah
It was a great meeting last night!! Even got on-site help with an issue I was having.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Adium to Integrate Twitter by IM - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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That is going to be awesome! I <3 adium
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
Trillian already supports twitter
- farzaam
it's not annoying at all, especially if you use a filter for what you receive via IM. Adium rocks.
- Karoli
farzaam, but Trillian doesn't exist for the Mac and Adium doesn't exist for the PC.
- Akiva
I nearly always have Adium running and wished that the Twitter IM service would return so this is great news. I like the fact that Adium give you access to your Facebook chat too.
- Chris Marshall
Very cool! Air apps just don't do it for me and I'm not a fan of the current crop of cocoa clients. Already have Adium open all day, so this sounds great!
- Derek Gathright
Palringo is a true cross platform IM service: it works on both Mac and PC PLUS most major MOBILE platforms (windows mobile, symbian,java, iphone, blackberry, Android (coming). You can move from computer to mobile and back and all of your contacts/chat sessions will be synchronised. it connects to all of the IM services PLUS Facebook chat. so check it out as an alternative to both Adium and Trillian. And Twitter integration is coming....
- kerry ritz
I would use adium if only it didn't crash all the time.
- Richard A.
I'll stick with Adium as it evolves and gets even better. It has not crashed on me even once since I got my Mac last August. I'm running the latest versions of Leopard and Adium, and have not enabled the Adium option to "download the latest beta version when available". On my Adium wishlist: better file transfers and audio chat.
- Siddharth Deb
Then you're lucky. Gave up on it two or three years ago.
- Richard A.
Wow, in all the years I've used Adium, since about 2001 or so, it has never crashed on me. In fact, I've never heard anyone complain of crashes until now.
- Akiva
Does the video chat work on Adium? I have trouble at times. I use meebo web based and it works quite nice. They are coming out with an iphone app (and other mobile platform apps) as well. I need to test video chat w/meebo though.
- Amani
Here comes Google Voice - http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...
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I LOVE this concept, because I absolutely DESPISE when people leave me a voicemail. I cannot even put into understandable text how much I dislike it. It borders on something that requires therapy.
- Erik Boles
Google voice will help me to keep it simple for my six phone numbers!
- earl wallace
What happened on Sept 18 when the financial and political system of the United States came within hours of folding. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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It's about time someone put a stop to the misconception that it's all about helping Wall Street in preference to Main Street. We're still losing height.
- Tim Ostler
Tweenky Brings Gmail’s Good Looks To Twitter - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
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Twitter may be experimenting with a new design, but even its new interface still leaves something to be desired. Tweenky, a new mashup that launched in private beta last week, is looking to offer Twitter users an alternative.
- David Erickson
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