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Online Alarm Clock - http://www.kukuklok.com/
Alex Puchianu, Marc Dong, Alp and 24 other people liked this
A must use if you're having problem to wake up in the morning...
- Orli Yakuel
from Bookmarklet
Damn crazy Swiss and their wonderful coco! *bookmarks*
- Outsanity
http://bluefive.pair.com/alarm... - alarm clock, just download it. You can use your favourite song as alarm sound)), and you don't need internet conection, just your PC is being worked all the time.
- obolonskyi
Misha, did you just said the word "download"???
- Orli Yakuel
What's this download thing you're talking about?
- Amit Morson
Nice programming exercise but you really don't want to count on this to wake you up. So many things can fail - your connection, your ISP, even your OS ... Nice for quick reminders to turn off the oven or something.
- Yuval Atzmon
atzmon, you can always use something for back up (or use this as back up to alarm clock, mobile, etc.,).
- Orli Yakuel
@Orli -Yes))
- obolonskyi
Well, if I use another (more reliable) device then this web app is redundant. Nicely done though.
- Yuval Atzmon
Brilliant. During exam time I set up as many alarm clocks as I can. Gnome Alarm, Amarok, my iPhone, physical alarm clock, and now... kukuclock. When 4 months of grueling work comes down to waking up at 7:20 am... the more clocks the better :)
- Derick Valadao
I've used this a few times as a quick egg timer
- Jason Cazier
This might come in mighty handy at work...
- Mark Edwards
צעצוע נחמד
- Eyal Rofe
"beware the grapes of wrath" (640×493) [wilya, Pixdaus] - http://pixdaus.com/pics...
!["beware the grapes of wrath" (640×493) [wilya, Pixdaus]](http://pixdaus.com/pics/1217026453C6iYZNz.jpg "\"beware the grapes of wrath\" (640×493) [wilya, Pixdaus]") |
JECO Photo, Arjun, Fa La La La Lindsay and 47 other people liked this
This is SO CUTE!! edit: now I look narcissistic for liking it cuz i'm mentioned.. =( *unlike*
- Mona Nomura
LOL
- Anna Haro
what ever happened to the California Raisins ?
- johnpiercy
they drowned in my raisin bran (crunch)
- Mona Nomura
Gotta be a funny grapes & raisin bran line somewhere....can't remember enough of the book...
- Mitchell Tsai
that actually made me lol ;)
- David Adam
These angry grapes are revolting against an army of teeth led by the tyranny of my hungry mouth :)
- imabonehead
I love the dude on the left with the Marty Feldman eyes.
- ::Kristen::
loved the mouth shape of the second one on the left :))
- webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)
I've Taken a New Advisory Role With ReadBurner - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Franklin Pettit, Jordan Hofker, anna sauce and 30 other people liked this
I am curious what effect this will have on readburner.
- Rob Diana
well, there goes ReadBurner ;)
- @baratunde
from twhirl
This is great news. I love the readburner concept and I look forward to what your advice will do to make the service better. I speak only for myself, but it's safe to say that many people take what you say very seriously and are aware of the fact that you know this space as well as the best of them. Good luck.
- Derick Valadao
great news and they are getting a valuable asset.
- (jeff)isageek
welcome aboard Louis :-) Look forward to chatting with you and Louis Nation tonight on the podcast - http://tinyurl.com/6pmn2o
- Adam Ostrow
You'd be awesome Louis
- Jeremiah Owyang
Congrats Louis! Congrats ReadBurner!
- Scott Lockhart
We are always working hard to take ReadBurner to new levels, so much is behind the scenes that Thomas works on every single day and we'll be showing off soon. This time, it's nice to shout out our biggest news yet. We're honored to have you Louis. Lets blow the doors off of this thing.
- drew olanoff
Caught me out in left field with this one. Good luck to all! Will try and tune-in.
- Charlie Anzman
ReadBurner will benefit from your expertise, while you manage to stay awake that is
- Chris Miller
When FriendFeed Creates a Mob - http://www.fourlittlebees.net/shakesp...
Varun Mahajan, Dereck, Dean Thompson and 75 other people liked this
this place has become the new / old digg
- linkman77
I would disagree that re: about Digg. The comments I find on FF rarely degrade into the crass name calling I run into on Digg. As for group think: sadly, it's a constant in humanity. Your going to find it everywhere, and FF is no exception.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I can't process the group think mentality. I'm not sure if it's just that I'm too eccentric or that I can't stand people telling me what to do. When I first read the post, I was indignant as well. But I also know that my knee-jerk reaction is often wrong. I looked at the MOMA site. I thought about it. I read all the buried comments on Digg. I can't form an opinion until I have more facts. But I know that there is this insane witch hunt here, and I don't like it one bit.
- Cyndy
@Cyndy: Groupthink is a fascinating subject, because just about everyone responds exactly as you do. It's the anathema of what we consider an independent and intelligent mind. However, it's also the basis of religion and community/social structure, not to mention the entire advertising industry.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I admit it: I got caught up in it and dugg the story when it was first submitted. I realized how insane this was when people found the guy's Facebook profile and implored everyone to harass him there, and when people charted the vacation schedules of the guy's bosses. The SFMOMA one is notable in that its groupthink now transcends Friendfeed, but have you seen some of the utter crap that becomes popular on FriendFeed nowadays? It's becoming much harder to distinguish it from Digg or Reddit.
- Mark Trapp
Wisdom of the crowds :-)
- Denis
It's all about who you follow. More importantly, who you don't
- Geoff Schultz
Mark- I likey'd it as well and enjoy Thomas' work. I respect Cyndy and have gotten to know her a little. She's not only a good author but a lot more. There's basically two takeaways here. 1... The way things are right now, people will endorse stuff on social networks if their best friend does. 2... I didn't know half this stuff til I read this thread. Think some are getting way too wrapped up in SM and maybe need to take a few days off. The sad part is that (re 1) people vote in elections that way too.
- Charlie Anzman
I think we all need to realize that this type of mob mentality is a symptom of a homogenous group. The more alike everyone is, the more likely the mob will kick in. Digg is, despite it's size, a fairly homogenous group of traffic seekers. When FF gets a larger user base, you'll see more 'mobs' but each one will be a smaller portion of the whole and less likely to affect the remainder of the group.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Very engaging entry, Cyndy. It is people like you that are willing to approach the other less popular angle that help us to avoid group think.
- Geoff Schultz
I wasn't following this but it doesn't shock me. I still appreciate Cyndy's take on it though. My take: Internet people tend to be a little hypocritical when it comes to "fairness". Generally, it is "fair" if it doesn't hurt them.
- David Muir
Nice, mature post.
- Mohamed J
Great post. Very provocative. I just posted a comment at your blog (Friendfeed comments are too short).
- Nathan Rein
The other part of this is that Friendfeed continues to be an equalizer, unlike any other platform that I'm aware of, which is exciting and important
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie, I think the great equalizer aspect of Friendfeed is its value, too. I almost think in order for FriendFeed to not become a Reddit or Digg clone with a few insignificant other features, it's got to drop the popularity metric of "Likes." It was a cool idea, but I think it's become a poor-man's "Digg it!" Then again, that's armchair architecting; maybe FriendFeed has some killer feature they've been working on for the past 2 months to solve FriendFeed's ails.
- Mark Trapp
I think there's a significant difference, though, in the fact that nothing gets ranked in terms of number of likes. You can't "like up" a post the way you can on Digg. Yes, you can bump it to the top of the feed, but it will immediately be replaced by the next thing to get liked or commented, so the effect is less pronounced, I think.
- Nathan Rein
Cyndy, thanks for forcibly turning my head so that I consider the other side of this campaign. I agree that the original article, much less the community response, has gone too far.
- Phil G
That's not true, nathan. Likes have a significant effect, much more so than comments, on what stories reach the top of the list on the best-of pages. They also have a big effect on the rankings on your personal statistics pages.
- Mark Trapp
Also, even though the effect may be eventually diluted, the mob here is just a better class of mob overall. :-)
- David Muir
hmm ... Okay, I take it back. I never use either of those Friendfeed features. Never mind.
- Nathan Rein
Museums are not public property, and they have the right to set whatever rules they see fit. Did they handle it incorrectly? Yes, probably, but usually if you are polite and ask them to review their rules that allow photography, everything can be resolved. From the fact that Hawk had to be escorted out, it doesn't sound like he responded well to the security guard's concerns.
- Jason Carreira
I "dugg" the story and would do it again. I had no idea people were staking the guy and do not agree with that. Now in what I have read about Thomas online in a relatively short time I will grant you, I do not believe that is the type of behavior he would encourage. My take away from his post is that he was pissed off, and was utilizing the platform available to him to share that...
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- R. Ferguson
Jason, did you read the original article that Thomas wrote detailing the event?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Yes there are 2 sides to every story and we only heard one, but I don't accept that it was group think - as much as it was a degree of trust based on what we feel we "know" about Thomas. I basically assumed that publicity if enough attn was gained via SM would cause SFMOMA to issue a response and their side of the story. It is a lot easier to encourage that with a click of a button vs calling their offices. Finally, how is everyone cheering and "liking" your post any less "groupthink?"
- R. Ferguson
I don't like the "mob rule" aspects one little bit. I like Thomas a lot from my experiences here, but although I am inclined to side with him, I only have his side. Sure, I did my own research and the guy is certainly suspect, what with sending goofy letters to the editor at Entertainment Weekly magazine, but that doesn't necessarily mean the guy should be lynched. Ruth, to your point, I think Cyndy's post doesn't make me question whether she's "abusing her power". Thomas', and the ensuing reaction...
- Robert Seidman
...do lead me to believe that power *can* be abused in this way. I'm not really sure whether it was or wasn't, but something about the way it went down didn't feel right to me.
- Robert Seidman
I agree, this whole thing has become insane, especially considering that only one side of the story has become known at this point. I didn't complain when it took over FriendFeed (highly annoying as that was), but finding his Facebok profile and calling for people to harass him/his bosses isn't something I like seeing. If I wanted to see the 4chan mentality, I would go to 4chan.
- Stellina
I think Cyndy is way off in her interpretation of this event. The harassment that Mark mentioned came from the digg community and it amounts to cyber-bullying not group-think. It is also a completely separate incident from what Thomas experienced at the SFMOMA. The backstory for Thomas' complaint is a growing public distrust of photographers not some bullshit about taking candy from babies. Its about companies and governments manipulating what gets into the news and public discourse.
- Rafael Robayna
Its also about privacy and people wanting more of it in a world where they get their picture taken discreetly by hundreds of cctv cameras, camera phones and other devices every day. Finally its about uneducated (can't tell the difference between a wide-angle and a telephoto lens) jackasses that are supposed to be protecting the interests of the the governments and private companies they work for and do so badly.
- Rafael Robayna
I too disagree about the comparison to Digg. This community is a LONG way from being anything close to Digg. I voted up the story because people who are entrusted with brand reputation (as this guy was) should be far smarter about how they deal with the press (and everyone, today, is the press) than they are. Personally the guy should be forced to take customer service classes to understand his role in dealing with the public. If I were running the museum he wouldn't have his job any longer after today.
- Robert Scoble
Let's turn this around. Would this guy keep his job if he kicked a journalist from the New York Times out of the museum? No he wouldn't. Thomas Hawk is just as powerful as any journalist from the New York Times (and has, even, been in the New York Times). The guy who kicked him out should be fired, or at minimum, retrained for how to deal with the new press (ie, everyone).
- Robert Scoble
And Cyndy, sometimes a mob is needed to make a point that this kind of stuff is totally unacceptable. This organization had a rule that photography was allowed. It should be enforced consistently with all patrons. Also, don't allow your employees to make it up on the spot and cause yourself and your brand embarrassment. Finally, if someone is a paying member of your organization they deserve better treatment than getting walked to the front door.
- Robert Scoble
Well written Cyndy, but I respectfully disagree. There is a bigger problem here than just this one incident. There have been at least three stories in recent weeks about photographers being harassed by police and other "public servant" types. We are starting to walk that fine line between freedom and oppression and it's time that the "mob" or community (wherever it may be) starts to speak up about this. When someone is following the rules or is in a public space, no one has the right to harass him.
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Perhaps Thomas Hawk could have dealt with this in a more mature manner, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because I often say things in anger that later I would have expressed differently. I realize we only have one side of the story, but Simon Blint and SF MOMA have not responded with their side of the story. Again, I'm more concerned about the deeper issue of individual rights and am glad that Thomas brought this to light.
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JMS: there's no excuse for the other side of the story. Think about what would happen if the New York Times was walked to the front door. Both this guy and the PR director would be looking for jobs right now. It wouldn't even matter if the NYT photographer was rude, or difficult to deal with. That's just how things work. People with power don't get shown the front door in our society. The mob now has power and is demanding their heads and rightfully so.
- Robert Scoble
i read the story. yes calling names such as Thomas did is perhaps over the board but behaviour exhibited by security guy was totally uncalled for as well. As said, dealing with new media is smth all those who have to deal at one or another point of time must learn. There was this year a similar scandal where a guy, whose mother was cheated, called on LiveJournal on mob to "bring down" the producer of the drug sold to his mother for big money. That company never recovered since.
- Hayk H.
Being apologetic and polite would not have cut it. Winning the mob, like in old times is what will bring about the change, although it might seem painful for some. Now this sec. guy will think again before behaving similarly.
- Hayk H.
Cyndy points out that 'the SF MOMA employee’s name is all over the tubes this weekend with no chance to defend himself'. While we have not heard the other side of the story yet, Simon and the SF MOMA have now had 2 days to respond and they have not. If they really cared about this issue it seems like they should have responded quickly to diffuse the viral spread of TH's side of the...
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- Jeff P. Henderson
I hear the objections to TH's use of the expletive and frankly they just aren't doing it for me. Yes, he's a CEO but so was Ted Turner and he wouldn't have hesitated to throw on a half-dozen more colorful qualifiers if this incident happened to him. I'm also hearing a lot about Blint's side of the story. If he has one he should have had it ready the day he chose to interpret SFMoMA's...
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- Christopher Harley
Cyndy, I appreciate your take on the controversy, and I also respectively disagree. Allegedly, TH was wronged by the MOMA, and he took to the interwebs to bitch about it. All his "mob" did was spread the word, like passing out leaflets at a concert asking passers-by to support anti-deforestation. I do agree that kind of in-your-face sensationalism can be annoying, but distribution methods don't have to please everyone.
- Pete Delucchi
At the point at which the employee's name was posted, it was over the line. If SFMOMA had done the reverse and called out Hawk as a belligerent nuisance, would the reaction be the same? Also, why is SFMOMA required to respond online? The personal info angle is what is completely inappropriate.
- Cyndy
I've been on Flickr for several years, and I've seen Thomas Hawk's crusades before. He truly enjoys tilting at windmills and bringing along as big a torchweilding mob as he can gather. There've been issues a lot smaller than this that he's spent weeks ranting in multi-page diatribes about. Now that he has this new forum for mob-gathering, expect to be rounded up on a semi-regular basis to rally to his defense after he's pushed someone into a confrontation.
- Jason Carreira
I think the real issue stems from trumped up "security" meant to keep us "safe." All sorts of power-tripping security guards and police have become accustomed to people immediately accepting restricted rights with the magic words "post 9/11." The reason it is such a hot-button issue is that most people have not pushed back against the Patriot act and all it (theoretically) allows law...
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- Richard pancakhaus Walker
It should be pointed out that Thomas Hawk is a pseudonym.
- Jason Carreira
Jason has a point, and until we were discussing it, I'd forgotten that was a pseudonym. Now I'm sure it was over the line. He won't use his real name yet had no trouble publicizing someone else's.
- Cyndy
Cyndy, I appreciate your post and criticism. A DSLR is most certainly a handheld camera. In the case regarding Jill Greenberg, yes, I feel it is abhorrent for someone to strip 30+ children naked and purposely use lollipops to get them *extremely* worked up and provoke them into anguish as an art project. Look at the photos. It's more than just a few tears. I doubt you'd subject your child to that sort of activity, I doubt most rational human beings would either, but that's a different story.
- Thomas Hawk
Cyndy... "If SFMOMA had done the reverse and called out Hawk as a belligerent nuisance" Lets be clear on something, SFMOMA had nothing to do with this. The employee in question acted outside the rules set by MOMA and took it apon himself to have a person ejected DESPITE other people in the gallery performing the same actions. And as "Director of Visitor Relations", you are not some type of low level employee, you are a person who is the public face of an organisation.
- Johnny Worthington
Jason... Crusades? How about issues that need dealing with. How about the right to attend a public space without hassel? How about the right to enter a property and while following the guidelines of that organisation not be ejected. As a person who got questioned more than 6 times on Saturday at our state fair here in Australia when I was taking photos of MY daughter. Grab me a torch
- Johnny Worthington
Cyndy, Jason, you are just figuring out that TH is a pseudonym? This is common knowledge and has been for about 7 years. What does that have to do with this issue or anything else for that matter?
- Jeff P. Henderson
We all must occasionally vent steam. Social networks enable our venting to more efficiently affect a large group of people, giving them the chance to also vent steam where previously they may not have had reason or opportunity to do so. I'll leave my pitchfork aside for now.
- Slappy Line
The new 'likey' is for the dialog.... which (while perhaps a little out of control) has been the most important part of the story. Food for thought for everyone. Mark T - Agree Friendfeed needs a few new features, especially for those of us that keep it open to a lot of people, but think about how many people right now are sitting back and considering their own stuff ... possible including my own Facebook rant earlier this week, which was very much off the top and could have been much better.
- Charlie Anzman
To those who would say behaviour like that stated in the article isn't group think I have to disagree. We voice our opinions here on popular entries because we think it will be the right thing to say. We want to affirm the sentiments of the post (for the most part). I have yet to see a social network that can combat against this phenomenon. When we reward opinions with popularity or...
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- Derick Valadao
Why I'm late to embrace Shiny Things - http://redcouch.typepad.com/weblog...
Vinay | विनय, Chris Stevenson, Nicholas James and 16 other people liked this
Nice read
- Geoff Schultz
I am late because I want to see if Louis likes them first. :-)
- Robert Scoble
That was a long article. I'm only used to 140 characters!
- Lee Bautista
I like Scoble's comment but can't. :-)
- Louis Gray
Chasing the 'latest and greatest (or hottest)' takes a lot of time. I'm walking the fine line between wanting to be an early adopter, and also wanting to have a life outside of my tech world. This article is spot on. I have the Macbook Pro, use Smugmug and am using Friendfeed thanks to all the early adopter recommendations. Thanks guys and gals.
- Henry Burger
I'm a "bridging the gap" kind of user. I'm absolutely not a bleeding edge person, but I find I adopt tools after hearing about it from you crazy FF people, like it, and find it takes off a few weeks/months later (just like FF).
- Chris Stevenson
guys, just doing a little research for a post on evernote - if you have a minute, what ONE word would you use to describe it?
Derick Valadao, Steve Spalding and titaniar liked this
come on friendfeeders! Twitter & plurk are doing better than this! First words that come to mind when you think of evernote...(assuming you use it)
- Zee.
counterintuitive
- Andy DeSoto
A really useful way to take notes. OK, that's seven words. Braindump. That's one. Just watch the video: http://www.fastcompany.tv/video...
- Robert Scoble
elephant!
- Chris Metcalf
from twhirl
Great
- titaniar
from Alert Thingy
friendfeeders to the rescue! :) Thanks guys. @Andy , not a fan then?
- Zee.
@Chris - not helpful but i know where you're coming from - cheers anyway! :)
- Zee.
@Robert - checking it out now. I am able to embed this on the blog post without any issue yeah? I know I physically can...but there's no legal restriction or anything is there?
- Zee.
"clevernote". Do you see what I did there?
- Edward Barnieh
very clever...they should so use that. :)
- Zee.
i'm gonna have to watch scoble's video - i love the concept and used it a little but it just hasn' clicked for me yet
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
@Marco - make sure you read this blog post too!
- Zee.
the reason why i ask btw Rober is because I don't think i've seen fastcompany.tv's videos anywhere else but actually on fastcompany.tv
- Zee.
limitless -- if I had more than one word I could definitely give some good praise as my use is becoming such that I am increasingly unable to live without it.
- Derick Valadao
from Alert Thingy
convenient
- nesman89
Useful
- Steve Spalding
Listening...
- Ricardo Vidal
memory
- Hutch Carpenter
SCARY...... TOS - "your Contributions automatically become the property of Evernote without any obligation of Evernote to you"
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
trail
- Dean Terry
waste of time
- Gary Barber
Lol, Gary - how can you possibly say that? What aspect is a waste of time?
- Zee.
augmentation
- Rob Shields
from twhirl
Robert thanks for the link of the video, really helped show some of the features by one of those involved with the site.
- Bryan
you made me really laugh Scoble... First, with the shock of what it could do. And second, just watching you knowing your mind was racing thinking of all the possibilities...
- Zee.
Synchronicity
- Bob Stemen
Zee: you can use my videos anytime, anyplace. That's why we include an embed code on the page. :-)
- Robert Scoble
e-life
- Hayk H.
WTF?
- Prolific Programmer
Notepad
- Sudar
@Scoblle - yeah i figured but just thought i'd double check because I just hadn't seen them elsewhere. Thought there may be some conditions. Cheers
- Zee.
I really love Evernote...I use it for everything from saving copies of receipts to recipes to all my book research notes. I've even imported all my old notes from my trusty old Keynote which I've used for years.
- Crystal
jeff's comment about the tos was very disturbing, but it looks to be a little misleading as well: "You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Service. Other than the limited license you grant in the preceding paragraph of this Section, Evernote acknowledges and agrees that it obtains no right, title or...
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- cjmart
This could be duplicated for free with EASE! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Bob Blunk, Blackeyed P, Nick Humphries and 2 other people liked this
Seems like a joke or is it? Is there anybody really stupid enough to buy this?
- Brian Sullivan
This has to be the most shameful cash grab I've ever seen.
- Derick Valadao
from Alert Thingy
Requested feature for next version: Please make iPhones that have this app explode while on a call, thereby killing anybody who is enough of a d-bag to buy this app.
- Derick Valadao
from Alert Thingy
please, people, it's a joke!
- dario
Funny Apple would even authorize such expensive and useless apps.
- Nick Humphries
Dark Roasted Blend: Hilarious Signage, Part 11 - http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008...
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Zoe, Sarah Perez, Derick Valadao and 23 other people liked this
hehe
- Fa La La La Lindsay
from Bookmarklet
My father owns a cigar store and *needs* the Burger King sign
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I love the instructions "For Help"
- Tad
hahaha!!
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
When I was working at the mall years ago, there was a door in the back alley that said "Door open's out". It drove me NUTS.
- Michael Gaines
I sometimes wonder if people were serious when they produced these signs.
- Scot Duke
My favorite was a sign on a door that said "not an entrance."
- Tom Landini
Signs, signs, everywhere signs . . . blocking out the scenery, breaking my mind.
- Steve Spalding
[Washington Post]: They're Baaaack... Swift Boat Veterans Take Aim At Obama - http://x.techwheat.com/1KF
Sean McBride, Brad Nickel, Steven Perez and 3 other people liked this
"Just as they sought to destroy John Kerry in 2004, the founders of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group are aiming their guns at this season's presumptive Democratic presidential candidate."
- newsjunk.com
A few months ago I read somewhere that they planned to take on McCain (too), because he isn't conservative enough - they seem to have changed their minds.
- sebmos
I'm quickly becoming disgruntled with how conventional media is giving a voice to unacceptable concepts and ideas at a time where citizens need so much more. Since when did the news become a way to entertain people as opposed to informing them. What's the state of the fourth estate?
- Derick Valadao
from Alert Thingy
iPhone 2.0.1 now available through iTunes - Engadget - http://www.engadget.com/2008...
Loren Heiny, Fuad Arshad, Karim and 10 other people liked this
New Version of Evernote for the Mac - http://blog.evernote.com/2008...
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this thing is sexy.
- mjc
i love it i just wish i could figure out why i would use this all the time
- adolfo foronda
Friendfeed's growth stars to slow - http://trends.google.com/website...
Zoran, Mark Interrante, Chris Luckhardt and 42 other people liked this
Friendfeed's growth is starting to slow. I am not adding as many followers as I did in May and June. And this chart on GTrends seems to back up my hypothesis.
- Steve Rubel
from Bookmarklet
Perhaps it is because FriendFeed has a more limited audience size than a simpler app like Twitter
- Mark Dykeman
I'm seeing same thing here.
- Robert Scoble
GTrends shows Twitter with 10x users http://trends.google.com/website...
- Steve Rubel
Except that it doubled from June to July... show me 2 - 3 units of slowing then I'll pay attention
- Johnny Worthington
That trend could be no worse than April 08. When does it break out of the tech echo chamber? Get some (hollywood) celebrities in here - then watch the ascent again.
- tagami
"starting to slow" - from a downward curve of 3 days? on the flipside, i've said all along that ff has no mainstream appeal while twitter does.
- Allen Stern
Steve, there are at least 7 other points on this chart with a down tick. I think it's a little early to call this. Plus, summer sucks for growth. I've seen a decrease in everything from # of stories in my RSS reader and traffic for tvbythenumbers.com (blog) not only slowed since June, it dropped in the 30%-50% range. It's too early to call it a success, but it also too early to comment on growth stalling too.
- Robert Seidman
The chart by the way looks like Loch Ness!
- Steve Rubel
One possibility is that users are re-considering the need to directly subscribe to mega-posters / super-users. Instead, they figure the best stuff posted by them will become visible to them through the Friend of Friend feature.
- Aviv
I'm still trying to get my friends to use it.
- mjc
oh man you all need "correlation does not equal causation" t-shirts...but it does look like Nessie!
- Robert Seidman
I was just thinking today that it would be nice to have an FF widget that you could install on your website to encourage your readers to have conversations and post their own material on FF. Something like that could expand its audience.
- John Budnik
Twitter truly is a phenomenon - but all competers can't expect the same growth, I'm sure that friendfeed will do something new to bring some more growth, or perhaps a competitor will show up to knock it's socks off. Perhaps everyone is just on vacation, eh?
- Patrick
Staggeringly small numbers - not surprising. To take full advantage you need to be a user of other API'd sites or know about them. That's a lot of assumed knowledge.
- Sean Kelly
Sean, to that point I'm not really sure exactly what trends tracks. Its off (and lower) by a ton for my site based on numbers provided by other Google services (GA and feedburner). But FriendFeed is still a very small niche for now.
- Robert Seidman
@Robert you could be right - seasonality. But does seasonality matter the way it used to now that alot of us have iPhones?
- Steve Rubel
Steve, yes it matters because there may be nearing 10 million worldwide with iPhones, but that's a rounding error when it comes to total population who access the web. talk to whoever has the stats for AdAge.com and compare August 4ths stats vs. the first Monday in May...
- Robert Seidman
that said, I think FriendFeed will be seriously challenged in terms of growth. As designed I think it highly likely that It's too much for most people to deal with. so they won't.
- Robert Seidman
Is FF doing better than Plurk?
- Dave "Freedom 35"
David, I find FF far superior to Plurk. I can't aggregate my feeds on Plurk or have conversations. Actually, I'm still trying to figure out what Plurk is good for (seriously, I have friends on there and it just seems like a more complicated version of FB).
- John Budnik
Are we looking at the same graph? The chart shows traffic growing about 40-50% over the couple weeks leading up to a slight decline around 4th of July weekend. A few days isn't a trend. I don't see FF going mainstream in it's current form, but I do think you'll see that line continue to move up and to the right for a while longer.
- Joe Lazarus
That's a graph of exponential growth -- adoption is *accelerating*. With just 50K dailies there's lots more upside potential.
- Sprague D
It's an anomaly
- Charlie Anzman
Summer vacation
- jcunwired
Plurk is more of kunstkamera, still alive only because twitterati still not sure where to move its planctton masses
- A.T.
Blip. Stats aren't backed up on Alexa http://www.alexa.com/data... or Quantcast
- Duncan Riley
Um, the "drop" isn't even a full 1% and not even a full two weeks of data. Meaningless dip until we get all of July's data. The median shows parabolic curve. I think you need to take that remedial stats class, again.
- Dread Pirate PJ
I wouldnt: use Google Trends to track site growth. Compete.com is a better source.
- Mike Reynolds
I don't know... that looks like a pretty good growth curve to me. And last time I checked it was skyrocketing up Alexa (with all grains of salt thrown in there)
- Eric Berlin
Please, this is a small tick after a large leap, with an overall trend of growth. Not even worth mentioning yet.
- Tanath
It's had similar drops throughout it's rise so I don't think that is too significant!
- Joe Dawson
Compete: FriendFeed grows as well as Twitter http://siteanalytics.compete.com/friendf...
- Igor Poltavskiy
OMG. I think I just got called a douche. Well, not just me. A bunch of YOU as well. http://is.gd/18sy
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I have a hard time respecting anyone who can't spell douchebag... and a full keyboard? that's just taking up valuable screen space...
- Jason Carreira
You're such a deuce.
- Louis Gray
well, *that* was uncalled for. wait ... douce is a word, isn't it? isn't that complimentary?
- idnan
Is that like "my little douche-coupe?" or maybe - "revved up like a douche, another runner in the night"
- Michael Pardee
Unless "Rick" is a store manager in Jacksonville or Tallahassee, there is no 3G coverage in North Florida. In fact, there's no 3G along the Coast from Tally to New Orleans. Makes me wonder if he's really an AT&T store manager or not.
- Chris Baskind
I am totally surprised you even read all the comments or did you read that one as you were about to comment?
- Roger Kondrat
Sounds like this guy has never used an iPhone in real life. I can list a million things his "Tilt" sucks at compared to the iPhone. Sure, it's overpriced, but maybe he could afford it if he wasn't a retail manager. He's just jealous because he doesn't get it at a discount. BTW. Who uses ten computers while camping? I don't take computers camping.
- Brandon Titus
I believe it's "cut loose like a deuce." as in coupe. watch Storytellers.
- Andrew Feinberg
k so your calling us a douche, which in most of the world means shower, I really don't take offense to that. I do take offense to the act that you are calling yourself a district manager of AT+T and have a pathetic attitude.. My local T+T store doesn't have new 3g iPhones and they have a shit attitude about it, get a life dude.as of right now there is no other phone device that gives...
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- Bryan Thatcher
from twhirl
Andrew - you may be right, there's an entire freakin' Wikipedia page for the song (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...) but in my defense the Urban Dictionary sides with me - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.... My guess is you are right.
- Michael Pardee
Bryan - " yes I am way too busty to wait". Is that braggin' or a typo? ;p
- Michael Pardee
I responded to him. He's an asshole like most AT&T sales people. Some people completely blow my mind with how ignorant they can be to technology. He thinks being a district manager makes him an expert on phone technology. This is completely false, his district manager should make him an expert on phone SALES not the technology. NEVER trust sales people's opinions on technology. They're paid to sell, not play with technology.
- Brandon Titus
What the deuce?
- Sean Oliver
So he's *really* an AT&T store manager? He's so over the top, I assumed not.
- Chris Baskind
@Bryan, it works until it bricks for some reason and you have to reset it or take it to a "genius bar." My N95 doesn't do that. Neither does my BlackBerry, or Treo for that matter.
- Andrew Feinberg
Andrew Feinberg, that's total bullshit, I've owned a 1st Gen iPhone since November and I've never had it "brick for no reason." I've actually jailbroken it every time there was a OS 1.1.x upgrade, one of those fabled fearsome things uninformed dudes claim as causing bricking, and it's never happened to me.
- Dread Pirate PJ
from Alert Thingy
Also, before the iPhone, I had every Treo model since the 300. And I call your bullshit on your Treo never going bonkers
- Dread Pirate PJ
from Alert Thingy
Yarrr, Dread Pirate. You make the mistake of thinking I have no idea what I'm talking about. Had a 1.0. Was a brick the first day I had it because of signal problems during activation. Second one lasted longer, and I did jailbreak it. It was OK for a while. Until it wasn't. Neither the "geniuses" nor the techs at the certified retailer I use who -really- know what they are doing had any idea why. After #3 I got sick of not being able to get real work done and sold it. Trust me. I'm no "uninformed dude."
- Andrew Feinberg
@bjtitus apart from douchebag comments itself, I tried iPhone myself and tend to think that iPhone ... mmmm... *little over-hyped* to say the least. This will be visible with time, and many won't ever see issues - because they are impaired to see them ;)
- A.T.
@Andrew Feinberg : you having a defective unit is not the same as "they brick for no reason". Sorry your experience was bad, but that's not what your statement claimed.
- Dread Pirate PJ
from NoiseRiver
Dread, experience flows from design. Apple emphasized form above all else. The entire phone is in software. I prefer my link to my job, my life, etc to be a bit more reliable. iPhone is the only phone I have had to replace multiple times. Apple's QC has gone down, and someone needs to step up.
- Andrew Feinberg
That word means nothing to me after my hiatus from Twitter post - do a search for JesseStay on that day on Twitter, etc. and you'll see what I mean
- Jesse Stay
@Roger I read all the comments in RSS. Well, except for spam. @Dread +1 I have a completely POS Treo that got used for like 6 months. I then went without a phone at all until going to a RAZR which tells you how much the Treo sucked. @Andrew, you admit you jailbroke the phone, then blame Apple for it bricking?
- Cyndy
OMG... best part is that he comes back to reply to a comment and says douce. Again. Wish could comment as myself and not a contributor there. :D
- Cyndy
@silpol There's no question that it's over-hyped and a LOT of stupid people own them (because Apple is becoming trendy and hip) but I still think it's the best phone out at the moment and haven't found a single phone that truly matches the power and potential it has. BTW Finally took him to task for his ridiculous misspellings.
- Brandon Titus
I'll watch for a response, Brandon. Thanks for my entertainment for the day. :D
- Cyndy
Apparently he has nothing better to do than respond to comments and then post that same day when I haven't responded asking if I've given up. I'd forgotten about this until I looked back through my comments and saw it. Apparently there's some other girl commenting you guys should comment and help out! He'll be overwhelmed.
- Brandon Titus
It is, as with any normal tech user, that new and hyped technology will be seen just for its hype alone. I used WM for about 5 months (Canadian so iPhone wasn't a choice for me) and I was able to get a lot done. Unfortunately I had to fight with a buggy OS, fragmented features, and an abysmal developer community. The main thing that sold my on the iPhone was the developer support. While...
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- Derick Valadao
from twhirl
If only people though like you, Derick. Unfortunately, I fear that many who will read this post will only see the messages AT&T District Manager, iPhone sucks, doucebags and will lead them to assume the iphone is bad and the people who own them are "douche bags". I agree that this post is a waste of time. It never should have been posted and probably should have been ignored (but you gotta have a little fun :P ).
- Brandon Titus
I would be curious to see what would happen if "Rick" got a look at this FF thread. He would probably extend his criticisms to FF users *rolls eyes*
- Derick Valadao
from Alert Thingy
Actually, the girl commenter was completely incomprehensible. I wasn't sure if she was siding with him or not. And actually, as an AT&T customer, I see that comment and think "Wow, they really need to fire this moron if that's how he talks about their JesusPhone deal."
- Cyndy
Apparently that girl is one of his employees (even more worrying that so many AT&T employees would be so inconsiderate to their customers). He's obviously trying to be as troublesome as possible but since he's not holding any punches and getting more people to join in, I'm going to do the same.
- Brandon Titus
Everybody Wants to be Internet Famous - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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ooooh, you put that very well. very well, indeed. but can one pass the baton *back*? i wrote about something related, but didn't think of trolls (because i haven't found any, i suppose). it makes me wish i knew things about anthropology in a formal, official sort of way.
- idnan
I would never want to be "famous". It would be nice to be known for contributing to a "society", but I wouldn't want to go out and be recognized by everyone. On that same token, I can only imagine some of the more internet-famous peoples im's and e-mail's and moderating a million comments, and so on.. no thank you :)
- Tim Hoeck
That's an interesting perspective of trolls and users...
- Czar
Edit: Cyndy - I think you're right on the money here. Trolls are simply taking the most extreme position possible to draw attention to themselves. Much like a person will do outrageous things in public to attract attention with little regard for anything other than blatant self-promotion or the spewing of today's vitriol. While it would be nice to have stature in a field based on a strong personal brand I would never want to be notorious for being an a-hole. (thanks for the heads up Louis)
- Morgan
This is a guest post by Cyndy: http://www.friendfeed.com/fourlit... She's a talented, sharp writer.
- Louis Gray
Internet famous is just the indie way of being normal famous. And while sure, that article gave trolls a voice (which sounds so-democratic doesn't it? What we can only give voices to the things we want to hear? That's how echo chambers are made), it hopefully opened some eyes to things that happen outside the Kool-aid factory. Very real things that just don't 'go away' if you ignore them.
- Eric Rice
I only want Internet fame if it comes with some kind of bonus. Say tax exemption? :)
- Todd Jordan
If it was an issue of 'reaction' then yes, they are guilty of that. They know exactly what buttons to push. Would be interesting to explore 'faux racism', which is knowing for a fact that throwing a slur at just the right angle will cause people to react... as if on cue. So it's not so black and white like 'oh don't feed the trolls.' That's just ignorant, and saying it aloud is almost worse, heh.
- Eric Rice
I have been guilty of unintentional trolling on occasion. I always feel ashamed after. I mean, I don't mind the living under the bridge thing, but the trip-trip-trap sound gives me a headache, and I don't even LIKE the taste of billy goats, be they gruff or otherwise.
- Slappy Line
Eric, I disagree. I really think if they didn't get a reaction, they WOULD go away. What fun is it if no one reacts? The mere fact that they agreed to the interview (and to be photographed) shows that even the reaction wasn't enough. They wanted people to know who they were and recognize what they'd done. It's the same as keeping your clippings or social bookmarking your mentions, but on a much larger and needier scale.
- Cyndy
Cyndy, because they work as an anonymous group and the group itself feeds. Hence the 'for the lulz'.... it's a parallel not just by tech design of a japanese image board, but the idea of individualism isn't a priority. That's why you see so much of the "Anonymous" thing. It's ABOUT the group, but not the ego. It's so much the anti-blogger it's not even funny, and that's why it works. You can't FIND them to ignore them and on paper they 'don't do anything wrong'. It's a subtle pattern of conversation, like +
- Eric Rice
+screwin with the people at the drive-thru window by faking a broken microphone connection. It takes awhile to realize something's up and by that time, lulz accomplished.
- Eric Rice
In short, the blogosphere (read: tech blogosphere) doesn't -get- the lulzsphere...they think they do, but they don't and that's why the dynamic works. Those news articles are only the tip of the iceberg.
- Eric Rice
Eric: You couldn't have said it better. To elaborate on anonymous 'group' manifestation, is 2-chan, the Anonymous BBS of Japan. ie: Akihabara Massacre, Many, many killing sprees have stemmed from 2ch. (extreme examples)
- Mona Nomura
Even if it wasn't for the complexity of the problem people react emotionally to certain topics, always will. Unless everyone consciously chooses their reactions consistently someone will fall for it and give them lulz. Intermittent reinforcement is good enough.
- Goldie Katsu
Eric, I still call BS. Trolls have been around since the BBS and IRC. The group allows anonymity to stretch it out, but the reaction is still what they are after. The lulz is still attention. If every single person ignored them (EVERY LAST ONE) do you honestly think they'd still do it? Firm answer is no, they wouldn't. No attention, no lulz. It has nothing to do with the blogosphere and everything to do with annoying people to get the reaction.
- Cyndy
They THEMSELVES propagate the attention inward, we could ignore all we want but by the time we get affected, they got the lulz. That's why I'm saying it's not this 'oh yeah just ignore them'... by the time you realize you've been had, it's too late, mission is accomplished. I think our def of trolls is varied. Like Igor and Coulter are trolls to Scoble. Lulz are a diff beast where those rules don't apply.
- Eric Rice
kathy sierra tried to ignore her trolls, no? but she couldn't just wish them away until she shuttered her blog. perhaps she could give insight on how easy or hard that is in reality. i more or less agree with @eric's take here.
- .LAG liked that
Eric is right. Trolls often don't care about the attention. They often just want to stop a conversation. You see this most in political blogs where the trolls are actually paid by competition to keep conversations from getting going. Sort of the same way with Apple fans who were urged on by Guy Kawasaki types. Or teenagers who egg cars. Destruction is a goal, too.
- Robert Scoble
"Some men just want to watch the world burn." -- Alfred the Butler
- Karim
No, Kathy Sierra did exactly what they wanted. She reacted. She said she was afraid. She quit blogging. She pulled out of a conference. Trolls won.
- Cyndy
hmmm...but as i understood it from reading the Sierra story as it unfolded, for a long time, she tried to just ignore them, and then the nooses and such started showing up. these people are relentless. i enjoyed your original post, btw. one thing i'd like further exploration on is what kind of axe does "old media" like the NYT have to grind by giving trolls a public platform. if the interweb is painted as a scarier place, doesn't old media benefit?
- .LAG liked that
I'm not really familiar with the Sierra story, but from the comments and the NYT story, it looks like the trolls will push things as far as necessary to get a reaction, no matter how far he has to go. The only thing you can do for defense is to be ready to close everything down and start anew. I don't know how many people would be ready to do that.
- Steve Lowe
Funny thing is I don't want to be Internet famous, hence my handle. If I were to be famous, everyone in the world would want me to come over and fix their computer problems!
- imabonehead
xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe - http://xkcd.com/352/
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lol...awww
- Anna Haro
XKCD is a great comic. Consistently funny and intelligent.
- Jeremy Brooks
that's when you have to bust it old school: {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUG}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
mmmm...
- Mitchell Tsai
Aha! I'm not the only one who still uses asterisks around emotes. *flails arms*
- l0ckergn0me
I never even used emotes like that, but I *do* use asterisks and _underlines_ in place of text decoration (bold, italics). Plain text good.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
*hugs* this post
- Geoff Schultz
Know the feeling. My pillow is all hugged out.
- Kamath (नमः)
I love xkcd!! I've been using asterisks ever since my old irc chatting days.
- Louie
WHAT?! An actual POSITIVE comment from you, Louie?!???? WOW =P
- Mona Nomura
I, too, hug this entry. Just don't like that I can't read the title text on my iPhone. ((((hug))))
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from fftogo
I have always found xkcd quite *entertaining.* I could relate alot of instances from work. :)
- imabonehead
Evernote for Mac users, be sure to check for updates. We just released a new version.
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Thanks for a great interview. Based on it, I got it for my iPhone. It looks cool and can't wait to try it out.
- John Budnik
I like this... though, it would be nice if the videos were higher quality than youtube. :(
- mjc
I also really like Evernote. I tried it out for the iPhone when it came out but quickly dumped it because I couldn't figure out what the point was. Then I started watching how other people used it--it's now on my first page on the home screen.
- Derick Valadao
from feedalizr
I would like to see Tiger OSX support :-)
- Karthick R
rumor: iphone 2.01 update to be released in the next 10 mins
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it's already out - downloading now
- Peter Ghosh
wow, 250 Meg download - so I guess it will overwrite the existing firmware. It definitely doesn't look like a SP
- Peter Ghosh
I wonder if it 'fixes' (breaks) NetShare?
- Kevin Fox
And my day was going so well...
- Bob Blunk
Downloading as well. Quick, get it now before iTunes fails like it did on launch day :)
- Derick Valadao
from twhirl
First download attempt failed already.
- Cyrus Lendvay
I think I'll wait till I find out what they've fixed and broken before upgrading
- Adewale Oshineye
1st step is that installs a special recovery driver (XP), then goes through a normal install and verification process.
- Peter Ghosh
New feature in 2.0.1 - In settings, there is a new home button option to set what a double-click performs
- Peter Ghosh
peter that was in 1.1.x
- mjc
it seemed to be missing from 2.0
- Peter Ghosh
What does the new double-click option do?
- Derick Valadao
from twhirl
gives you the ability to set your preference - home,phone favorites, or ipod
- Peter Ghosh
Peter, I have 2.0 and it's there. I remember it in 1.1.4 too.
- Bryan
Picking your Subscriptions, aka “Friends,” Wisely on FriendFeed - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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Good stuff, Justin. I've also been looking at who a given user follows as a factor in deciding whether or not to follow them. It's my verison of, "Tell me who you follow, and I'll tell you who you are."
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Totally forgot to mention, when I do my weekly (or so) review, I'm using Hao Chen's GreaseMonkey Script. It's a life saver! http://userscripts.org/scripts... - Just updated the post to include the link as well.
- Justin Korn
Solid advice. I really like the part about looking into their stream and analyzing what associated services mean what about which users. I'm relatively new so preventing noisy feeds is good. However, you should give a nod to the hide feature which lets me hide services from some users. I am a huge fan of that since it lets me get down to the really good bits of content being shared.
- Derick Valadao
from twhirl
Useful primer.
- kamla bhatt
@Derick: Glad you found my post useful. As for the "Hide" function, I use it all the time, but I did not want to dig into how to deal with the noise issue. My main point was to inform users how I deal with my subscriptions in order to ensure my feed is relevant to me and my interest. In the long run, this is the best noise reducer there is (IMO).
- Justin Korn
@Justin: Maybe it would make a suitable topic for a follow-up. I know the hide feature has been documented in many places but it would be really helpful to have a recent, well-written reference on how to filter out the noise within feeds you would normally find interesting.
- Derick Valadao
from twhirl
@Derick: I agree, it would be a great follow-up, however, I think Louis Gray's article hits home on covering how to use hide (http://www.louisgray.com/live...). If you haven't read it, give it a whirl and let me know if you still think another write-up is needed :)
- Justin Korn
@Justin: ah yes. I remember reading that article. It did to a pretty good job. Thanks for reminding me. I did use some of his hints and it did a pretty decent job of keeping the talking points in focus. Maybe you are better to just link to the article in case others haven't read it :)
- Derick Valadao
from twhirl
@Derick: Chris Baskind also started this thread (http://friendfeed.com/e...) which has some good tips. I'm guessing he is thinking up a post on this very topic as we speak/write.
- Justin Korn
@Justin: Wow is that ever an expansive list. I think your suspicions are well placed.
- Derick Valadao
from twhirl
iPhone 2.0.1 now available through iTunes - Engadget - http://www.engadget.com/2008...
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God I love Friendfeed.
- Derick Valadao
from feedalizr
Scraublous is Back! It’s New Name is Wordscraper - http://mashable.com/2008...
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New version in Mandarin Chinese! ;-)
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Thank goodness! Enough people were twittering about it ;-)
- Carla Lynne Hall
that didn't take long
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Wait, they went through all of this agony, and all they had to do was change their name? It can't be that simple...
- Josh Bancroft
Sounds like Words Crapper :)
- Andrew Wooldridge
@Andrew Wooldridge LOL! That brightened up my day!
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
hm? I just assumed you meant a new blog post. Do you mean a whole new blog site? Now I'm even more curious.
- Lise
It's not actually the same. Apparently you can set your own board and rules at the beginning of a game. I haven't played yet but I was looking at it this morning.
- Corie
Those clever brothers have given us the tools to build any board we want by placing the value "squares" ourselves and determining the distribution of the tiles and their values - a board that can be saved as a template for future games. Build once, use often. So of course we're all building clones of the Scrabulous board, it being one of the possible permutations. The only things missing are the two blanks. Hasbro/Mattel must be livid.
- Bob Kingsley
Facebook Furthers Attack on FriendFeed, Adds Comments to News Feed - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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now if FB would provide an API for it all so I can have it my Firefox sidebar
- Dave Hodson
That's terrible. I'm worried that I'll now have to travel between FB, FF, and Reader in order to get my 2 cents in. Can't the APIs talk to eachother and leave the input method to user preference?
- Derick Valadao
facebook is so 2007
- adolfo foronda
thanks for reminding me to use Facebook...
- anna sauce
Eh, This way the rabble can stay on Facebook.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
I always use Facebook as an afterthought, but I'm always in and out of FF and Reader
- Ian May
i still use FB everyday... not all my friends have the time to spend on twitter, friendfeed or the like. let's not become snobs about it.
- Meghan
from Alert Thingy
Oh, I'm in no way being a snob about Facebook. I really just don't think to use it much of the time. FriendFeed is much faster so I tend to go for that first.
- Ian May
How is friendfeed faster?
- morten saxnaes
I tried my first comment on Facebook. Worked great...
- Mitchell Tsai
I've barely used Facebook since moving to FriendFeed. How ironic is it that Facebook heavily resembles FF now. I am disappointed with how difficult it is to read the news feed on Facebook. There is an image on the left. Oh wait, now there is an image on the right. Well now there is some indented text. Gah, now there are comments? It's just too noisy. It is almost a strain on my 21 year old eyes, and that is a shame. It needs to be cleaned up and displayed more elegantly.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
sorry, snob is a bit harsh.. i just meant smart people still use FB
- Meghan
from Alert Thingy
What's Facebook?
- Stephen Pierzchala
Personally, FB is good for looking at pictures and following peoples actions. FF is a living discussion. FB is not a living discussion, I don't think comments are going to help. They have comments on pictures and that wore off months ago.
- Ryan
I'm not even going to bother w/ comments on FB....
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Covered it here: http://www.techwinter.com/2008...
- Roger Kondrat
And here: http://www.techwinter.com/2008... Nice article though and most of all I am glad we are drawing more attention to the predatory practices of NEW large organisations e.g. FB and GOOGLE. :)
- Roger Kondrat
I use FB quite a bit and I am glad they have improved their newsfeed. I would like to see them improve it some more.
- Bindu Reddy
I enjoy the comments as much if not more than the things being shared on FF. Why is it that FF has great discussions and FB has little to none. I think it is historical... people don't think of FB as a place to go have group discussions about things. If so, will FB be able to change this? Do you think they are in trouble if they can't.
- Michael Leggett
Comments on Facebook is actually pretty cool - FF'ers should not dismiss this feature so quickly. Facebook is copying FF - a true form of flattery! I think this is a really impressive feature improvement on Facebook...very interesting!!
- Susan Beebe
I agree Susan. But I don't see the comments picking up so far... maybe it is only a matter of time.
- Michael Leggett
Michael: I agree, it's too new of a feature to get noticed...but is is really awesome!! once folks figure it out... it will be a matter of time.
- Susan Beebe
If they can get the graffiti wall to have a blog interface and an RSS feed, that would be dreamy...
- sergiooo
Facebook has been forced into copycat mode. They are no longer the leader - just a follower of trends. They look like Plaxo and FF.
- Ernie Oporto
They'd do a lot better if they could get an API where the two could integrate together, and I could have a feed of both and comment on both and my comments would show up in the appropriate spots. Well, actually, *everyone* would do a lot better. And there would be so much more commenting !
- Justin Long
seems like a lot of door-knocking and how's-your-mum between the (growing) number of services. As long as of can keep ahead of the cruft eating the bulk of the bandwidth in the process. Or maybe I'm missing the point. FF was not cooperating (for me at least) via FB this morning. Now it simply states that I have actvity on FF with no detail.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Matthew's Story: From CenterNetworks' Future to Fired In A Month - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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wah
- Jason Carreira
You just watch, Jason. Little Pete better have a backup plan. This is a brutal business!
- Louis Gray
Brilliant post. Dead pan comedy, social media, and a really cute baby :)
- Derick Valadao
I am boycotting CenterNetworks until they reconsider and hire Matthew back!
- Mike Fruchter
Matthew was lazy and selfish and produced sub-quality work. Sorry, Louis, but he deserved to be fired.
- Nathaniel Payne
Jason's true reaction "What model Mac is that?"
- Charlie Anzman
Very funny Louis! I tend to want to write like this when I'm a little loopy from not getting enough sleep, just curious if it's the same with you :-)
- David Knight
I'm only a paragraph in and already I love it
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Brilliant. Holding my stomach and LOL
- Sidharth Dassani
This was great :)
- Tamar Weinberg
Novelties: TCC's Wacky Street Signs Contest - http://jalopnik.com/cars...
Pete Delucchi, mjc, Mark and 16 other people liked this
Mark Wilson, you started it!
- Anna Haro
from Bookmarklet
Doing the see no evil,hear no evil, speak no evil 3 monkeys gesture...
- Mark Forman
LOL!!!!!
- Anna Haro
i may or may not have been at this intersection at various points in my life. i'm just sayin...
- Chris Hollander
Yeah that familiar fork in the road thingie...
- Mark Forman
LOL @Chris I'm sure you have been there--it's all good, just part of growing up. ;)
- Anna Haro
LMAO.
- Jonathon
Curious about the one in Austria. Can anyone translate?
- Victor Ryden
Haha! I followed this from Hao Chen's article on 50 reasons FF is going mainstream. Brilliant.
- Derick Valadao
What an intersection :)
- TDavid
I'm going to be teaching New Media Tools for Journalism at Boston University - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2008...
John Budnik, Benedikt Koehler and Derick Valadao liked this
Steve Garfield as a professor? Awesome. Really great guy and has been an innovator in media for years.
- Robert Scoble
Coming from a student perspective. This kind of education should be compulsory to any student studying business (including an MBA). Understanding how information flows (how quickly, easily, etc.) is essential when tailoring your business model (especially if you're going after early adopters).
- Derick Valadao
Creating a Sense of Urgency - http://www.michaelhyatt.com/fromwhe...
Derick Valadao liked this
Michael Hyatt runs one of the largest publishing companies in the world. Reading feeds every morning from the world's smartest people is like getting an MBA for free.
- Google Reader
This was an inspired piece of writing. Three years into a psychology and management degree (including entrepreneurship courses) and no material has ever been so well presented and meaningful in the context of a large sized business. This is the kind of knowledge that seperates CEOs from MBAs who walk out thinking the world owes them 80k/yr. Brilliant.
- Derick Valadao
Don’t Feed the Pigeons - http://www.digyourowngrave.com/dont-fe...
Alfredo, Tom, Alexey Ivanov and 223 other people liked this
haha
- Fa La La La Lindsay
LOL
- Pete Delucchi
Ahahahahaha!!
- Andy DeSoto
OK, this is my favorite post of the day.
- Kevin Bondelli
ahahaha.... messing with the olds is fun....
- Jason Carreira
Hilarious!
- Penny
lol
- ChaCha Fance
from twhirl
LMAO!!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
250 proof hilarity
- Bwana ☠
Stuff like this and Trigger Happy TV make me wish I owned giant animal costumes just to mess with people.
- Kevin Bondelli
Hee.
- Ayşe E.
pigeons = flying rats
- Mona Nomura
I had a pigeon wave a knife at me once. Those mofos mean business!
- Jim Stanger
I agree with Mona, I don't like pigeons, they're disgusting.
- Oli Kenobi
Mona: thank you! I was just watching Samantha Brown on travel channel, eating pigeon dumplings in Xi'an, and I said the exact same thing..
- Bren -- feeling merry
Epic
- Johnny Worthington
That's not just any pigeon!
- Charlie Anzman
now that was funny!
- Tim Hoeck
Every time this gets bumped up I start laughing again.
- Kevin Bondelli
Tim liked it. I'm gettin' outa here while everybody's on an up!
- Charlie Anzman
you see, now i have a disturbingly twisted version of Feed the Birds Tuppence a Bag playing in my head. it's not *right*.
- idnan
hahahahahahaha GENIUS :)
- Iain Baker
olololololol
- Jay
A Top Secret missing scene? http://www.imdb.com/title...
- Federico Bolsoman
ha, I saw that on Reddit earlier. Brilliant. :)
- Tamar Weinberg
LOL
- Mitchell Tsai
Classic forum avatar. I think someone overfed the pigeons
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
from twhirl
lol
- Arjun
Steroids!
- Bill Sodeman
haha
- accesine
haha, it's <b>funny</b>....
- kakilang
That's one awesome pidgeon. I love the frustrated toss of bread at the end.
- Derick Valadao
There's always one!
- Alex Hammer
thats awesome!
- (jeff)isageek
LOL! Literally, LOL!
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
I know a guy called 'Pidgeon Lowry'. I wonder was that him?
- john conroy
epic tail
- John LeMasney
haha, great!
- Nick
This is funny! that dude was pist! threw his last piece of bread at the "aggressive pigeon"!! ha, ha!!
- Susan Beebe
lol now that was funny!
- Daynah
you never know when life will throw a giant pigeon at you.
- John LeMasney
totally something to share
- Got80s
good thing that big pigeon can't fly and poop on ya!! yuck!
- Susan Beebe
Everytime I see this it cracks me up! Where do I get that pigeon costume?
- Rowell
Wow, this is already #4 for the best of the month. Why that's important I have no idea. It probably isn't.
- Phil G
OMG this showed up again... I love it!! tooo funny! :-)~
- Susan Beebe
Still laughing at it. Wife thinks it's funny, too. :)
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
it's #1 on my feed for the month. :D
- AJ Batac
chao dou
- terababy
Can someone make a video like this about Trolls? Do not feed the Trolls! LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
What I want to see is a giant cigarette come and attack the next Asshole I see flick a lit cigarette butt out the window on the freeway!
- Jeff P. Henderson
That is 100% awesome. No. 137%.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Facebook Still Banning Aliases to Avoid Becoming Fakebook - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Daniel Schildt, Kol Tregaskes, Mitchell Tsai and 15 other people liked this
It may not be the popular opinion but I agree with Facebook here. It's their service to define and they want the real people not their alias (there is a difference). Make your Alias a fan page and be yourself, Facebook is a more structured environment and that's served it well - I don't think we can expect any change in that department
- David Knight
One of the many reasons why I have little use for Facebook. No other major site cares much about psuedonyms, and given Facebook's history of privacy problems, I'm don't trust them with much.
- LogEx
Kind of BS in my opinion that they disabled Vic Podcaster's account for this.
- Thomas Hawk
Terms of Service are only useful if they are reasonable and even-handed in applying them. If they can't explain why, they shouldn't.
- Andrew Feinberg
Why do they have to explain why? It's their ball and they'll take it home. If you don't like the rule don't use the site. It's that simple.
- Adrienne Van Houten
If you can't explain how you are applying your own terms of service, either you aren't following them or need new terms of service.
- Andrew Feinberg
I'm perceiving a shift in social networks and forums, more people using their names instead of fancy pseudonyms. Maybe I should say "names" without presuming that they are the person's real name.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Facebook is a joke for this reason, on your birthday you obviously get a few messages. I hadn't spoken with some of these people in a while so I got involved with them. I received two warnings about my conduct and I backed off from talking! Incidently Louis I see that we share the same birthday from your profile!
- Joe Dawson
@Ryo I still really enjoy what Facebook offers, I get benefits from other sites but the majority of my friends are active on Facebook!
- Joe Dawson
There's nothing wrong with pseudonyms and there are lots of reasons to use one, not just 'hiding'. Don't ask why people use Facebook, it's simple. People use Facebook because people use Facebook. Momentum, name recognition, user base, and it's a good product.
- David Knight
I've already cut back a lot from using it so I won't care if they eventually delete my alias. One more reason to move to A|N only
- Divided By Zer0
But hey, many have been calling it Fakebook for a long time.
- Daniel Schildt
Despite what they say about aliases, it does seem to be very hit and miss - I know of one person who is on as "Troubled Pink" and has been for a while, whilst others seem to get locked out pretty swiftly.
- Richard Peat
as they should, identity is really important
- Jeremiah Owyang
When I joined FB a year ago, it was as "Somerset Bob" - a pseudonym I wanted to use as I built a new online persona based around my revamped blog. After three weeks I was duly suspended until I changed it to my real name (Bob Kingsley). It rankled then, and still does to a certain extent - especially as I, too, see FB users who are using obvious pseudonyms. It's been the only social networking site that's made a fuss.
- Bob Kingsley
Agree with Jeremiah and David. Keep it real, Facebook :-p
- Jamie
Jeremiah: The policy should be applied evenly. Check this out http://tinyurl.com/6mz2zo now tell me what do you think? BTW Vic Podcaster is the real name I use in real life.
- Vic Podcaster
David: Agree with you totally.
- Vic Podcaster
Facebook normally send me 20 emails a day. No emails when they decided to disable my account? What kind of protocol is this?
- Vic Podcaster
Why Rafe had a bad Webware day - http://news.cnet.com/8301-17...
S. Charles Balazs, Anthony Farrior, Derick Valadao and 3 other people liked this
It's too bad the way the two conferences in Sept distort the market, if that's what's happening.
- Dave Winer
YYYYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!! I'm glad I'm not the only one to see the pointlessness behind all the stuff I've been pitched lately. I'm thinking of taking the month of August off from startup ville. Anyone else?
- Robert Scoble
Dave: it's not just because of the conferences. I'm getting pitched a lot of unremarkable things lately and the stuff that does have some remarkability about it has PR teams that get 200 bloggers to talk about it all at the same time. It's why I'm back to writing long pieces and why I'm doing videos with people who are doing interesting things rather than just what the PR people pitch me.
- Robert Scoble
I was reading a Neuroscientists blog earlier this week where the author explained why he rarely read the blogs of others in his field. His reasoning was that "we all end up taking in eachother's laundry"/recycling ideas/echoing sentiments/etc. Some of the big insights that have rocked this an other industries came from people who didn't absorb themselves in every aspect of the field but...
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- Derick Valadao
OK Robert I agree. Take a startup month off and send them to me @solacetech :)
- Anthony Farrior
I didn't say that to be troublesome, I said that to show how "someone" has to sort thru the "vile" to give us good products. I know it gets ridiculous(actually I'm just guessing) but it is needed. So any time you guys want to share the web 2.0 burden let me know, it would be an honor to do what YOU are doing :)
- Anthony Farrior
Haven't touched them. Either everyone is covering them, or they just aren't that interesting. There's a ton of other news out there, though.
- Cyndy
Charlie Anzman, Selma, Corie and 45 other people liked this
snugglicious
- jeneane sessum
awww...little sleeping angel. :)
- Anna Haro
But the weird thing is that these photos were already there, and I added *different* photos to the same album that includes these. Should be interesting to watch.
- Louis Gray
Can I come sleep on your couch some time? ;)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, you have an open invitation.
- Louis Gray
Cute.
- LouCypher
Louis, I will take you up on that
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Must hide all of Louis' cute baby photos from my wife, before she gets any ideas...
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Sarah sleeping like an angle, what a cutie!!
- Mike Fruchter
She is one gorgeous little baby -- and a very new baby, too!
- Chris Abraham
from twhirl
Very nice.
- Alex Hammer
Wonderful. They are sweet... Thanks for sharing Louis.
- Mitchell Tsai
You are an idiot if… - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Satya, Jeff P. Henderson, Rodrigo Jaroszewski and 30 other people liked this
Good point about the .NET development. It would make a lot of sense.
- Kevin Bondelli
Robert, I wish they would let go of the legacy code and pull a Classic to OS X migration with Windows. Microsoft takes a huge public beating, but they have some very talented people there that I bet would love an opportunity to start fresh.
- Michael Pardee
I don't know if they'll ever make good on the promises they made at PDC in 2003 for .Net and Windows BUT I have to say I've been very impressed (and excited) to see the changes they're making in ASP.Net so that you have the option to do REAL Ajax development via an MVC framework. They have been studying Ruby on Rails I think. And the things they've done with LINQ for .Net 3.5 are pretty dang awesome too. Once all that becomes standard for enterprise then it won't really matter what OS you use anyway.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I can't say when or if this Midori thing will be released, but application compatibility is easily handled through virtualisation - either through Virtual PC, or by running the app in an isolated silo using Softricity.
- Stuart Maxwell
I've said that the OS would be obsolete (in that it wouldn't matter which one you choose to run on your hardware) in 5 years starting about 2 years ago. I stick by my assessment. With virtualization progressing like it is, we'll just run software on whatever platform is available in VMs eventually.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Liking to come back to this later.
- Akiva Moskovitz
How about "You are an idiot if... you build on a single OS platform on an OS that's slowly starting to lose market share" I don't care how good .NET is (and here's a hint, not actually any better than Java, and significantly worse in many ways) being Windows only is a non-starter (and the first person to mention Mono gets the old "point and laugh" treatment).
- Jason Carreira
Arguing if they should go open source or not LOL
- Mona Nomura
If Gates is against breaking support for ancient software then Apple’s recent advances in marketshare won’t be just a near-term surge they will be cumulative. Microsoft cannot continue to invest resources in this manner eventually Apple will overtake them due to the growing waste of human resources at Microsoft. Also I believe Microsoft needs to go to a yearly release cycle like Apple. Im not interested in their products & 5 years of waiting between releases to get innovation. Not interested in the least.
- Roger Kondrat
Innovation? Like Vista?
- Jason Carreira
@Michael I think MS shouldn't announce they are leaving behind the legacy code until they have a beautiful demo to woo the audience. I think people would complain but if the product is compelling like Apple's was, they will drink it up.
- Roger Kondrat
@Michael you took the words right out of my mouth about a Classic/OSX style change. That is where Apple really did right. At some point, you NEED to break application compatibility to improve the product. They seem to have done it to an extent in Vista, but not the extent I was hoping. Since businesses rely on the fact that their crappy old software will run, they will continue to upgrade. MS needs to FORCE the change, otherwise we'll continue to be stuck in the Win 3.1 compatible world.
- Tim Hoeck
@Tim @Michael totally agree with the Apple approach was only referring to the PR. Also @Tim I think it is MS's responsibility to ensure the marketplace their lifeblood progresses which means it is in their best interest to every couple decades (minimum) to make a radical step forward as you both point out like Apple did.
- Roger Kondrat
Great. Yet another reason I'm an idiot.
- Todd Hoff
todd, I won't think you're an idiot until Robert actually backs up his statement with some arguments. His post is basically "I say it ain't so" with nothing behind it.
- Ian Betteridge
Microsoft should buy Sony to compete with Apple in the living room/digital lifestyle. 360 and Vista Media Center built into every Vaio HDTV.
- Andrew Smith
Writing a kernel in .net is something I wouldn't want to undertake, maybe the layers above will be written in .net... They would be better off first writing a new micro kernel and then start from bottom up rewriting stuff and choosing the appropriate language whether this is .net or something else. It's just not economically feasible to keep using different kernels etc.
- Robbie van der Blom
Not totally ure what "rewrite" means but I am guessing Unix/Linux today vs Unix from early 70's is not a "rewrite" either.
- Brian Sullivan
Personally I think anyone trying to make predictions this specific for 20-40 years in the future is more likely to be the idiot, but I see your point. I tend to think, however, that hardware will maintain its exponential growth in speed and render the current issues with managed code irrelevant in less than 10 years. Shall we put it on longbets.com?
- Ben Reierson
calling the author an idiot is a little over the top robert, he clearly stated that it is an incubation & research project and i (speaking w/ my enterprise technology hat on) personally like the way he wrote this article & the fact that msft is doing these sorts of greenfield r&d efforts...
- mike "glemak" dunn
I'm old school here. At several fundamental levels C# is not a language I would pick to write a low level OS in. No surprise I would have said the same thing about Turbo Pascal. And the .NET runtime don't know why that would have to be preserved in an OS effort. That being said, I think MS's next step ought to be to derive their own version of C++ that's C# friendly and use that as the core. C++ could become a more efficient tool to use and it would follow along MS's success with C#. That's where I'd start.
- Loren Heiny
Mike: my idiot headline is more aimed at people who picked up on his headline and started spreading it around as if this were a serious effort to replace Windows. I answered more over on the comment section of my blog.
- Robert Scoble
Microsoft should just continue support for Vista if they are so worried about backwards compatibility. As long as the .Net-from-the-ground-up OS has siginficant advantages and reasons to get businesses switching and get applications for it, Microsoft should have no problem. Carrying so much legacy code merely hinders the overall progress and experiance.
- Roberto Bonini
robert: yeah saw your comments afterwards, seems a number of others picked up on the same concept, good to hear you didn't intend to call the author an idiot - i do agree w/ your opinion that these sorts of research projects are very different than a full commercial production effort...
- mike "glemak" dunn
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