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"Can't we all just work together?" Modeling a Paradigm Shift: From Producer Innovation to User and Open Collaborative Innovation - http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item...
When trying to innovate, or produce, or complete complex tasks/projects - the human dynamic is always a bone of contention. "Can't we all just work together?"
- derikp
The Current State of the Unmotivated & Disengaged - http://sixdisciplines.blogspot.com/2009...
40% is a big number of disengaged. I wonder how long that 40% has felt that way? Do you think your employer cares? I think Yes, and I think NO. Yes because it still a productivity hit when a key player leaves. But NO since the talent pool is pretty large right now. I know someone who had 10 interviews with the same company/department until they were extended an offer (which was quickly accepted because that person was in the 40% bucket).
- derikp
The Whitening of Heroes - http://contexts.org/socimag...
And more to the point, it has grown increasingly less interesting. I wonder if there is a correlation to Arturo's assertion.
- derikp
"Unfriend" has officially been added to the dictionary. And it is the word of the year, apparently - http://www.kurzweilai.net/news...
I wonder if there is a prize for the person who officially proposes a new word. Perhaps it is the joy of being first. Kind of like those geeks that rapidly reply to a Tweet or Facebook post by someone famous.
- derikp
Great News for Accessibilty: Google to Add Captions, Improving YouTube Videos - http://www.kurzweilai.net/news...
Hope it works better than the Google Voice transcripts I get.
- derikp
I'm wondering why I didn't see this news in the Washington Times or Washington Post? Even the Daily Onion didn't cover it.
Whats the big deal about buttons?
derikp@gmail.com has shared: Locations of ARRA Spending
wanted to share this with you: Mayor Gavin has a map-app that shows where ARRA $ is being spent. Locations of ARRA Spending http://shar.es/1I8yh
- derikp
from email
Grateful
Lexile Measures and Grade Levels | Lexile.com - http://www.lexile.com/about-l...
Matching Readers and their appropriate text levels.
- derikp
Life Without Cable or Satellite TV Is Easier Than You Think [Prof. Dealzmodo], but still hard. - http://gizmodo.com/5366161...
I tried this a few years ago. The family wasn't very happy with things, and now two years into having cable they've gotten used to its ease (even though they only watch four channels of 250 basic channels on FIOS).
- derikp
I tried this a few years ago. The family wasn't very happy with things, and now two years into having cable they've gotten used to its ease (even though they only watch four channels of 250 basic channels on FIOS).
- derikp
Microchip in the Eye Seeks to Restore Vision - http://www.wired.com/gadgetl...
Sounds like Lee Majors and that super secret govt agency OSI really do exist. $6mm man
- derikp
GuidanceResources Online - http://www.guidanceresources.com/groWeb...
Elder Care Services
- derikp
Melon Coolers - http://www.epicurious.com/recipes...
Summer is not over yet
- derikp
The Gullwing Flies Again - http://www.wired.com/autopia...
Childhood memories constructing a model of this car abound.
- derikp
This interactive graphic of Health Insurance Costs by State Via @AP says that "workers" are more likely to be uninsured now then following 1992 health care reform efforts - http://hosted.ap.org/special...
This means that things are bad and getting worse for those with or seeking health care. So it would mean IMHO that slight modifications to the system may not be sufficient to change the tide.
- derikp
What Washingtonians Make - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...
Earning
- derikp
GuidanceResources Online - http://www.guidanceresources.com/groWeb...
R U in need of help with tcaring for an aging parent? Wonderful source of info on ELDER CARE.
- derikp
80's happy music: Denroy Morgan - I'll Do Anything for You (1981)
Allen, Lynch, Scorsese sign petition for Polanski release - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) - http://www.abc.net.au/news...
Mrsth, Poka Yoke, James Myatt and 17 other people liked this
"Top US directors Woody Allen, David Lynch and Martin Scorsese have signed a petition protesting the detention of Roman Polanski in Switzerland, a French film industry association, SACD, said. The petition in favour of fellow director Polanski, coordinated by the SACD which represents performance and visual artists, so far has been signed by some 110 industry figures. Among them are Michael Mann, Wim Wenders and Pedro Almodovar, as well as Darren Aronofsky, Terry Gilliam and the Dardenne brothers. "We demand the immediate release of Roman Polanski," it says."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Is anyone surprised that Woody Allen signed this?
- Kenton
What Kenton said. =)
- Spidra Webster
"First they came for the directors, and I said nothing for I was not a director." Sheesh.
- Kevin Fox
I'm surprised that these folks would want to so publicly support him. I wonder of this is commentary on a greater moral bancruptcy that exists in Hollywoodland and the entertainment industry more broadly speaking.
- Thomas Hawk
from iPhone
I think more than anything it's people who know him personally who don't think he's 'the kind of person that rape laws were written for' and were offended that he was apprehended while going to receive a lifetime achievement award. This lack of perspective in such capable filmmakers is surprising.
- Kevin Fox
LOL @ Kenton
- Spencer
@Thomas I think this once again shows how "out of touch" Hollywood is with reality.
- Spencer
@Thomas & Kevin: most of the people supporting him are of the opinion that the overseeing judge in his case reneged on the plea deal in the original case (as is the victim), which is what started the whole "fleeing overseas" nonsense. What he did was reprehensible; no argument.
- Jennifer Dittrich
*Like* for Kenton's comment.
- Tudor Bosman
Was Woody Allen's step-daughter under 18 when he started a sexual relationship with her?
- Thomas Hawk
I saw a quote from Polanski's Swiss lawyer saying he is "ready to fight". I think that is great to hear. If he's ready to fight then come back here and fight!
- ChiliMac
If there is any fact in the whole original judge reneging issue, big deal. Polanski drugged and raped a 13 year old girl and then after admitting his guilt, he fled the US. Face the charges and make your arguments again idiot! As for his supporters, you are also idiots. Roman Polanski may be a great director (I certainly think he is) but he is also a rapist of a CHILD even if it was a 'long time ago'... fools!
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Thomas, I think she was in her early 20's. My comment was more on the age difference than anything else.
- Kenton
I agree with Jennifer's analysis that the support from these people is more because of the feeling of injustice than that what he did was right or wrong. However, I'd be afraid to put my name to anything in support without being very clear that it was because of a percieved miscarriage of justice rather than support for child rape.
- Kenton
what was the injustice done to Roman Polanski?
- Thomas Hawk
Problem is that a Judge doesn’t "reneg” on a plea agreement. A plea is between the defense and the prosecution. The Judge either approves it or disapproves it. In the case the Judge didn't approve of it a instead of dealing with it he fled.
- ChiliMac
Woody Allen pledging his support? No surprise there.
- Kevin J Hatton
Mmm.. 13 years old huh? And she's 40+ now? > 33 years ago, how would they punish such a crime? What's the usual judgment if it's a case that happened so many years behind?
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
@Kenton - I agree; the 'out of touch' element for me here is that the people supporting him for that reason think that everyone knows the specific details of the case, or like them, has watched "Wanted and Desired."
- Jennifer Dittrich
"Directors Martin Scorsese, David Lynch and Woody Allen are among dozens in the film industry to sign a petition calling for the immediate release of Polanski. Academy-Award winning film producer Harvey Weinstein, also a signatory to the petition, wrote in the UK Indpendent calling the original plea deal in Polanski's case a "miscarriage of justice." "Whatever you think about the...
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- Thomas Hawk
You know, I just read through both the transcript of Polanski's plea bargain as well as the testimony of the victim Samantha Gailey when she was 13. The thing is that he plead down to the single count of sex with an underage child -- something truly horrible. But the account of the actual incident. The rape, the victim protesting the entire time, the manipulation on his part, the...
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- Thomas Hawk
++ Thomas.
- Ayşe E.
Well said Thomas.
- Penny
Honestly, I don't know who I'm more offended by at the moment: Roman Polanski for acts he perpetrated 30 years ago, or Lynch, Scorsese and the others for their advocacy of ignoring those acts today.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin, that's an easy choice for me. Lynch, Scorcese and the others are just guilty of stupidity or blind loyalty. Polanski is guilty of much worse.
- Stephen Mack
I'm offended most by Polanski, but I'm flabbergasted after reading the testimony of this girl that any human being could somehow stand by and defend this man at this point. Harvey Weinstein called the plea bargain a "miscarriage of justice?" and said he's "served his time?" The only miscarriage of justice here was that he was even offered to plead *down* to a single count in the first...
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- Thomas Hawk
I used to like movies. >.>
- David C. Cooper
Stephen, I'm talking about at this moment. I've been offended by Polanski all my life, and my outrage doesn't spike just because he's the news of the day. The others though, their offense is new and current, and so on this day their pious defense of this child rapist offends me more. Tomorrow maybe he'll regain top spot.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin, I have no refutation. Your logic is impeccable.
- Stephen Mack
Here is the actual petition: http://www.thewrap.com/article...
- Thomas Hawk
Wow. The petition reads as if he were a political dissident being restrained by a foreign power for crimes of conscience, rather than a child rapist being extradited for raping a child and evading prosecution. Accepting the petition's arguments as valid means you should be able to commit any crime at all and not be apprehended for it so long as you happen to be on the way to accepting a lifetime achievement award.
- Kevin Fox
So many names I used to respect. Thanks for posting Thomas. One name not on the list: Luc Besson, who said, "I have a lot of affection for him, he is a man that I like very much ... but nobody should be above the law. I don't know the details of this case, but I think that when you don't show up for trial, you are taking a risk. Everyone [who signs the petition] can do as they please...
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- Stephen Mack
Whoopi Goldberg On Roman Polanski: It Wasn't 'Rape-Rape' http://jezebel.com/5369395... I'm confused so sometimes rape isn't rape?
- Thomas Hawk
It seems like marginalizing sex crimes has become part of the liberal agenda.
- David C. Cooper
Re Whoopi: I have a feeling she wasn't up to speed on the specifics of the case, and she'll sing a different tune on tomorrow's show. Re Scorsese, Lynch and Allen, none of their names are listed on the petition linked from these comments. Is it out of date, is there another petition, or is this just an untrue rumor?
- Kevin Fox
Hey Whoopi: He confessed. He. Period. Confessed. Period. He confessed to raping a 13 year old girl. Read the testimony. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...) What would you see as more "rape rape" than that?
- Stephen Mack
David: Oh please. I'm as liberal as they come. This isn't a liberal-conservative issue. I haven't seen a single politician of any stripe oppose the arrest.
- Stephen Mack
David: I think you'd find that almost everyone on this thread is 'liberal' and we all condemn Polanski and want him brought to justice at the same time we condemn his famous friends trying to defend him. Don't go generalizing.
- Kevin Fox
I think the link I posted was to an earlier version of the list. Woody Allen, Scorsese and the others are widely reported to have signed it doing a simple Google news search for their names. I can't get the page with the actual SACD petition on it to load: http://www.sacd.fr/Le-cine...
- Thomas Hawk
CNN reporting that Allen, Scorsese, etc. signed it: http://www.cnn.com/2009...
- Thomas Hawk
Here's the other thing that I don't get, it keeps getting brought up in the news that his wife was murdered by the Manson family and that his family were holocaust victims. What is the point of this? Are we supposed to feel sorry for his hard life? Are these facts supposed to somehow soften his crime of rape or make it somehow not as bad?
- Thomas Hawk
from iPhone
As I Jew I find it embarrassing and offensive that they bring up the holocaust in his defense.
- David C. Cooper
I'm amused by the "We demand that he be released" verbiage. Movie directors demand his release or... what? They'll stop making movies? They'll make movies but refuse to release them to U.S. audiences? The phrase 'Drama Queens' has never been so appropriate.
- Kevin Fox
I've seen a documentary once on 'sex offenders' parents being in prison for many years for crimes they never did (and having those laws lowered even I think, in one of those states), or sometimes it was the forced testimonies on the children to have the 'evidence' needed to imprison them. Life is rough on all corners I suppose. Even if the possibility exist, many will just stick to the...
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- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Do judges now take into account demands submitted by petitions? For criminal trials?
- Mistletoe Glen
Hollywood has now sunk to new lows, if that was possible. Actually I am pretty sad by this that soo many people are defending a child rapist. They should all be condemned and ashamed of their support!
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
MSI data on reducing acl injuries
Obama Adviser Resigns Amid Controversy http://online.wsj.com/article...
The latest Health Care Debate Social Networking Tool - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
taking it to the streets: kind of like the bookmobile I remember as a kid that got me reading more than had I actually had to go to the library. Example of reusing old ideas that worked.
- derikp
Do you know what happens next in this story? See my ff coments for link The wife of a man from the company of the prophets cried out to Elisha, “Your servant my husband is dead, and you know that he revered the Lord. But now his creditor is coming to take my two boys as his slaves.”
China Admits Use of Death-Row Organs - http://science.slashdot.org/story...
Cultural differences aside, this is creepy.
- derikp
It’s true. McDonalds has a website for black people. - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Mary, Mitchell Tsai, Kol Tregaskes and 47 other people liked this
I still can't quite believe this.
- Zee.
from Bookmarklet
What? I mean, what??? Huh?
- Call me Bronco
yeah, exactly...
- Zee.
From the screenshot: "Like the mighty Baobab, McDonald's and I will not be moved." Call me horrified.
- Call me Bronco
Ronald is a slow learner.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Somebody should do Ronald in blackface to drive this one home :-/
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Uh....
- Helen Sventitsky
+1 Richard.
- Call me Bronco
Coke Blaq? Was it for Blaq people? I must have missed that.
- Call me Bronco
yeah, i never heard of it either
- Zee.
Coke Blaq incorporated coffee and had nothing to do with black people.
- Derrick
WTFingF??
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Kevin M. is an inspiration to us all. And the execs at McDonald's just don't think.
- Kevin Winn
usa/fun/365_black.html
- Melrose Stamp
WTF?
- Ozkan Altuner
This is a shame...
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
equal opportunity (now my wife can be offended as well)! --> http://www.myinspirasian.com/
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I'm confused. What's with the WTF's? and crapping bricks over this?
- Valley
And for you of E. Asian extraction: http://www.myinspirasian.com/
- Christopher A Carr
I was fully expecting a negro spiritual to stay playing in the background.
- Yolanda
or maybe "Thaat Eggg McMuffffin! Thaat Eggg McMuffffin! Thaat Eggg McMuffffin gaave me gaaass!"
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Sh.t !
- `aziz´ Alihan ÇETİN
I could really go for an Egg Mc Muffin right now.
- Louis Gray
i prefer the McGriddle. so does my cardiologist.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Is there a site for those of Viking heritage?
- Gus
The issue is that McD's just went through an embarrassing episode a year or so ago over their poor treatment of Black customers. They really ought to avoid any mention of race until that has been forgotten.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Euh... While I am sure it is a different marketing group, actually creating a different website clearly labelled for the black people - It just seems ridiculous somehow.
- James Kuypers
I suppose that's true, but I still dislike when communities are targeted for stuff that's unhealthy or unfair, like fast food, "payday" check cashing, and malt liquor. Call me old-fashioned. (edit: Actually, malt liquor probably doesn't qualify)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
They are just giving black folks an opportunity to serve their community, making them responsible for the welfare of their own environment.
- Christopher A Carr
McD's made an Asian-American site a while back. It was not well thought out. (story here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004... , site now here: http://www.myinspirasian.com/ ) ... D'oh, Christopher AND Dead Silence got there first.
- Andrew C
BTW, how is it I'm the first one to mention Calvin? ( http://books.google.com/books... )
- Andrew C
Andrew: I referenced it indirectly.
- Christopher A Carr
Fair enough!
- Andrew C
...via the Chapelle reference.
- Christopher A Carr
i actually posted the Asian site first. :P
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Ah, yes you did...
- Christopher A Carr
yo quiero big bag of inappropriate marketing.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
So McD's must have a Hispanic site too.
- Andrew C
yes, they do.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
((Insert really, really, REALLY bad joke about KFC having a website for black people))
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Wait, for real???? Although, I'm sure they have a spanish one for the Hispanic audience. It's weird... somehow this seems strange.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
This sounds gross.
- Kamilah Gill
from email
It's a site aimed at landing a job at McD's. From the site: "It's a place where you can learn more about education, employment, career advancement and entrepreneurship opportunities, and meet real people whose lives have been touched by McDonald's."
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
@Zulema for black people yeah.
- Zee.
Zee you bring up a great point, "...how would the world react to a 365White?"
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Zulema - huh! The As-Am & Hispanic ones seem more like regular marketing sites. wait, no, 365Black still pushes the food.
- Andrew C
Where's the website for white people?
- xero
This is patronizing and irritating. All you folks popping up whining "it's just targeted marketing. what's wronnng?", kindly stfu. You know exactly what's wrong. I'm tired of being "targeted" as if I'm not a regular person capable of finding a job at frigging McDonald's without having my hand held. Major UGH.
- Kamilah Gill
at least it's not Billy Dee Williams (a.k.a. Lando Calrissian - Administrator Of This Facility) grinning and saying "Works every time!".
- Joe Silence is not Santa
mmm...Colt 45
- Christopher A Carr
Hmph. Most of the world *is* 365White, so that's a red herring. My issue with this is not the race-specific advertising, or even the use of the baobab tree iconography. My issue is that yet again a company whose bottom line is made by pushing unhealthy substances is targeting a minority community. Educational advances aside (and I know several people who made it through college *and* B-school thanks to MickeyD's), this kind of stuff is killing people, especially people who look like me.
- cecily
i was more of the Olde English 800 type. :P
- Joe Silence is not Santa
OTOH, I'm willing to cut them a little more slack because McDonald's will build outlets in neighbourhoods that other businesses won't touch. I don't see Whole Foods putting up a store on Bankhead Highway. Businesses have all but deserted the inner-city, an in a lot of cases, fast food outlets are the only source of employment opportunities for people who don't have access to reliable...
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- cecily
McDodo's was the FIRST chain to pull out when the southeastern part of my city went from lilly white to mostly hispanic and Vietnamese.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Because the gift of pandemic diabetes in the black community just wasn't enough, your very own black McDonalds website...
- Christopher A Carr
Dead Silence, they were the *last* to pull out of my hood when things took a turn for the worse. I see your anecdote and match it. :-D
- cecily
sounds like your area got the better treatment from them.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
and, actually, that part of our city is still thriving and low crime, just no national chains seem to want to do business there cos it's not white enough for them.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
And I'm wondering - have any of you who are feeling the most outraged ever taken a look at some back issues of Ebony, Jet, or Essence magazine? This kind of race-specific marketing is nothing new - it's just on the innernetz where it will reach a broader audience. Why the hue and cry now?
- cecily
Probably cause I'm not black and have almost never read those magazines. Certainly the As-Am mags I've read (only sporadically) have never had as ham-handed advertising as McD's Asian site. At least, I don't think they did/do.
- Andrew C
It's not all that outrageous in terms of being surprising, it's just that McDonalds is so, uh, crudely blatant about it, in what would seem to me intelligence insulting fashion.
- Christopher A Carr
I don't care how positive the marketing spin is on fast food and $200 dollar sneakers, frankly.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
I think it's fair to argue whether the site is well done or not, or whether it achieves a certain objective or not. And, frankly, if you're white, unless you're extremely competent about African-American culture, you may not be able to have a fully informed opinion on that. It's a little naive to be surprised by the site's existence, though. Every major consumer products company has its own ethnic marketing division.
- Erica Mauter
don't know why i find this offensive...
- Tate DA FF MVP
Additionally, McDonald's has always placed emphasis on the business opportunities it makes available. They provide tons of scholarships for their young employees. They do good things. You can't be made at them for marketing their product. There is more than enough information out there; that choice is entirely on the consumer.
- Erica Mauter
Advertising is insulting in general, usually. Why the indignation over this? Advertising has always and will always be the seller of something telling me how good it is. Conflict of interest anyone? So, I guess this falls into that category for me. Oh yeah, and the material isn't offensive in and of itself, it requires a human to interact with it and decide for themselves, offensive or not. Offensive is in the eye of the beholder, or something...
- Joshua Kahn
Wow, just wow! What was McDonald's thinking when they did this?! Don't they realize they're alienating people?! This is the dumbest idea of the year! *sigh*
- Susan Beebe
The about page is at http://www.365black.com/365blac... - and are we going to be enraged when companies target...teenagers?
- John E. Bredehoft
that is completely different John...and i'm hoping you know it
- Zee.
Blame the partners http://www.365black.com/365blac... including the Thurgood Marshall College Fund, BET.com (hmm, come to think of it, that's a whole television network that's targeting a particular audience), and VIBE (hmm again).
- John E. Bredehoft
Or blame the award winners http://www.blackgivesback.com/2009... "This year McDonald's recognizes Black Enterprise publisher Earl G. Graves, Sr.; CNN journalist Soledad O'Brien; NBA legend and philanthropist Alonzo Mourning; House Majority Whip and Congressman James E. Clyburn (D-SC) and McDonald's Owner and Operator Frank E. Mason. These...
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- John E. Bredehoft
And someone DOES blame the partners http://regeneratormag.com/economi... "Whatever the case may be, McDonald’s is safe so long as it stays partnered with All The Things Black People Love™: BET, Vibe, Coca-Cola, the CIAA and the Thurgood Marshall College Fund. These august institutions would never partner with the likes of Ronald “i’m lovin’ it” McDonald unless they had the Community’s best interest at heart."
- John E. Bredehoft
Well, if I was to apply what I have been learning in Economics, I would say that McDonalds has stepped out in front with what a lot of business are going to do (and some have already begun to make noises in that direction) .http://www.365black.com/365blac...
- Melanie Reed
"...McDonald's has branched out to the African-American community *nourishing* it with valuable programs and opportunities..." Pfft. I'm glad they're nourishing it with "programs," cause they sure as hell aren't nourishing it with that engineered, sugar/fat pseudo-food.
- Christopher A Carr
Why do you feel alienated, Susan? Anyone else who feels this way is free to answer.
- cecily
*sigh* Why do we always forget what we've already discussed? 365White would be redundant since our world is already white 365 days of the year. Especially here in the US. It's the same as people getting upset over the Blackbird browser and talking about Whitebird or whatever. Many don't see it or don't want to see it, but our world is tilted in favor of one race at this point and we need balance. NO! Obama is NOT that balance.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
how do you mean our world is already white 365 days of the year?
- Zee.
Jesus, Joseph, and Mary. *sigh*
- Derrick
Why do we have black history month?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Cecily, I guess I don't have the standing to say whether 365Black is offensive to me, but I've definitely felt that myinspirasian.com is offensively condescending. Targeted marketing is one thing, but silly and offensively simplistic stereotypes are a distinct subset of targeted marketing.
- Andrew C
to celebrate black history. That's not the same as McDonalds designing a site specifically for black people though
- Zee.
I demand a McD's site aimed towards atheistic pasty white folks of Protestant Irish descent.
- Chrimmus Tad
Well, the point of the site, so they say, is to celebrate black history every day of the year. Just as the majority of history any kid will learn in school will *not* be black history. I'm not sure if that's really the goal of the site, but that's what it says. Does anyone here have a problem with celebrating black history and culture every day of the year? All 365 of them?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
seriously Rah...? You believe this site really is to celebrate black history every day of the week?
- Zee.
Fair points, Andrew, but I'm trying to get to why people are so upset about this, and most of the commentary (IMO) has little to do with being pandered to. I get the feeling people think that because African Americans are being targeted in this campaign that they're somehow being given an unfair advantage.
- cecily
That's what it says. There is even an opportunities link. Could it just be a way to market to the black community and make us eat more of their garbage? I don't know. The point is, black people have probably made McDonald's a lot of money. It *IS* one of the places that will probably hire black people and even promote them eventually. The DO have ties to the black community that run a...
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- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
The site isn't just celebrating history (or those 'exceptional' black folk), but to celebrate achievement, whether that achievement comes as the result of education or business success. They're separate but complementary goals.
- cecily
Looks like Cecily and I are seeing the same things in regards to this. Some are mentioning the pandering aspect as the offense, but most are just upset that black people have something separate. The latter always seems to be the point of contention as the immediate response is to say "what if we had a white X", which is a completely redundant statement if you're paying attention. I also have a sneaking suspicion that those outside of the US may have a harder time grasping what's going on.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Huh. FWIW, my upsetness was mostly about the sense of McD's pandering. I may well be overly sensitive; it could be "liberal guilt". I certainly didn't think there was any 'unfair advantage' going on.
- Andrew C
basically, for me - the sooner we get rid of anything that distinguishes people by color...the better.
- Zee.
++Zee
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I feel you, Zee, but we are just no there yet. At this point, your desire is like wishing paralyzed people could walk and viewing wheel chairs as simply a way to delay that reality. At this point, we still need extra support because we have people who absolutely DO NOT agree with you. Racism is alive and well. Things are skewed. There needs to be balance.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I've had a long day at work and don't have enough brain power to fully participate in this thread. that said, I am black and McDonald's 365 website doesn't offend me one bit. it's an educational destination held together by advertising. sure, it may pander - what major advertising doesn't? ever see a Mac commercial? as several people have mentioned before, this type of marketing is not...
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- jbrotherlove
you're probably right, we're not there yet...but i can't see how this helps
- Zee.
Oh right, re-reading the thread reminded me why I thought it was pandering: the 'mighty baobab' line. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
- Andrew C
Definitely not discounting that interpretation, Andrew. I'm not exactly getting a pure vibe from the site,but I'm suspicious of any corporation focusing on a minority.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
My issue is with people being against minority-specific things. When the majority stops stacking the deck against us, we won't have the need to build our own decks. Just because there are a few who believe we shouldn't have to take such actions, doesn't mean we don't have to.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
McD wants to sell hamburgers. Everything else is advertising/PR to that end.
- Christopher A Carr
For those who haven't seen it, here's Steven Hodson's Inquisitr post about the site. It made him cranky: http://www.inquisitr.com/34468...
- John E. Bredehoft
And my post on the site, which mostly concentrates on the diversity vs. black only issue, but also touches on some things I noted above. I also take issue with Steven Hodson saying it's OK for BET.com to target a particular race, but then saying that BET.com can't sponsor 365black.com http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/2009...
- John E. Bredehoft
"Most of the world *is* 365White"??? Only if you think that the world *is* 100% USA! I think you will find that over 50% of the world's population is of Asian Origin, add to that the 15% that make up the population of Africa and you can see just how white the world really *is* ;)
- Dave Pook
Recently, we have LAN games can use to now download the demo in Macdonald's shop.
- Ami Iida
Would this website and book be the cultural answer to the McDonalds 365 site? http://books.google.com/books...
- derikp
Absolutely not?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
OK, I have a question for those who objected to 365black.com - did you object to the concept, or the execution? Pepsi seems to have a less heavy-handed execution (no Baobab trees), but they have a site with the same concept. I heard about it via a Corvida Raven share http://friendfeed.com/corvida... (she's featured on the site).
- John E. Bredehoft
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