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Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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Waiting for the call!
- Robert Scoble
me too
- Kevin Marks
we're gonna start in a minute. waiting on a Scoble re-start
- Tina Chase Gillmor
please tweet the show announcement for others to join
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Getting enough tissue ready to weep with the masses over WebOS
- Jerry Schuman
while we're waiting ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Just want to say I predicted WebOS was DOA even before it went to HP
- Jerry Schuman
thought it was a 'heavy metal' effect
- Jerome Hughes
I don't think it's fair to write off WebOS yet. Most of the northern hemisphere is on vacation.
- coldbrew
I'm also chatting here: https://plus.google.com/1110910... for those who would rather do Google+. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
wow John - you're not blurry and low-res anymore!
- Ankush Narula
Scoble: You are two-timing us?
- coldbrew
WebOS jinxed, Touch it, lose $1.2Bn
- clive boulton
http://arstechnica.com/media...
- Jerome Hughes
coldbrew: yes. :-) I'm using FriendFeed 1.0 AND 2.0.
- Robert Scoble
:)
- coldbrew
WebOS IS dead, I think. :(
- Kevin Costain
Shame about WebOS
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
HP has not sold anything yet. It seems the CEO put all the options on the table. I can link to some techtarget article from today that was actually good, if you are interested.
- coldbrew
can't seem to keep Seth's feed up. Think he's having signal problems on his end
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Autonomy is HP's future
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Google adding 3rd Seattle location nr MSFT campus http://bit.ly/onPBh5
- clive boulton
HP Autonomy featuring Dr. Dre's Beatz
- Ankush Narula
Businesses need printers :)
- Kevin Costain
From some chatter on hackernews from former employees and consultants of Autonomy, it sounds like more of an enterprise sales org, rather than engineering and technology.
- coldbrew
for how long have we heard... who cares about Apple, they've only got x% of the unit shipment market share for computers?
- Jerome Hughes
Jerome: and they make almost all the profits.
- Robert Scoble
Is it a question of hardware vs. software or enterprise vs. consumer?
- coldbrew
just tuning in! hi guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Hello Susan
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
hi everyone, late again :)
- Charlie Isaacs
hello, Beebe.
- coldbrew
Hey there Moe :)
- Susan Beebe
Maybe the should co-brand webOS with Lil Wayne?
- Ankush Narula
WebOS has nodejs support built in, shame.
- clive boulton
:-)
- coldbrew
the HP I have here has an intermittent headphone socket after a month
- Kevin Marks
hey @coldbrew :)
- Susan Beebe
Great
- Harold Carey
What?! who doesn't need page views?! :P
- Susan Beebe
scoble doesn't
- Kevin Marks
Is Robert DeNiro in the house?
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
stop linking to him
- Kevin Marks
exactly :)
- Susan Beebe
WebOS can join Newton in device heaven. Name a single platform that has risen from its former ashes by a new owner after the brain trust left.
- Jerry Schuman
Oh goody, I am not the only one getting spam on Google+ ... augh
- Susan Beebe
Firefox, Jerry
- Kevin Marks
So is Steve upset that he's getting +mentioned on G+?
- Ankush Narula
script kiddies, Steve
- Jerry Schuman
everyone start posting kitty videos :) meow
- Charlie Isaacs
I think Steve is talking about random people on G+ who send you posts (not just mentions)... those posts wind up being like a DM.
- Susan Beebe
BINGO! same spam i am getting on G+
- Susan Beebe
I don't understand what random posts he's seeing - I don't see anything like that - only people in my Circles
- Ankush Narula
Firefox filled a need based on a sub par platform called IE. No such need exists in the tablet place Kevin.
- Jerry Schuman
Robert - people I do NOT follow are sending me crap that loads up my notifications!!
- Susan Beebe
I may have to do that too: Turn off email and then create a gmail filter to delete noise
- Susan Beebe
quiet chat today.... why?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Everyone's on vacation.
- coldbrew
About 10% of the shares I get this way are useful/relevant; 90% not. I have a stock message I share w/ people in the 90% column, that asks them nicely to stop. Most say "sure," and I don't hear from them again.
- Denise Howell
Oh Steve.... You are missing out. Seems like you are just not giving it a chance, especially if you aren't even posting....
- Ben Hanten
I am troubleshooting a Facebook problem :-o
- Charlie Isaacs
Maybe Google+ is getting boring!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
@Tina - great question!!
- Susan Beebe
Scoble loves noise :P
- Susan Beebe
are they trying to send you things for the show, denise?
- Kevin Marks
he loves what he finds in that noise
- Jerome Hughes
interested to hear your thoughts on the patent bubble Denise
- Kevin Marks
Robert is going to camp out again in line hahahhah :D
- Susan Beebe
agreed that the line can be fun
- Kevin A. Burton
Isn't this the 5th year? Like, in a row?
- coldbrew
Kevin - I just +mentioned you on G+ // I know you're not following me - can you see it in your stream?
- Ankush Narula
One cannot be surprised.
- coldbrew
+Kevin The 10% are, so I'm glad they can and do. The 90% are just sending random things.
- Denise Howell
no, but it is in notifications. Thanks Ankush for clearing that up
- Kevin Marks
but if you post to JUST me, what happens
- Kevin Marks
heh - no new information here (re:FriendFeed) - that's the problem - not the solution
- David Ashwood
ah, that was just me so it is in notifications only. thanks
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin - notification + email
- Susan Beebe
Does G+ Sparks have any filters ie chronological? I havent found any.
- Hilary Talbot
If there's beer involved I'll tailgate for anything...
- coldbrew
Right... I posted just to you
- Ankush Narula
Sparks seem very immature and limited right now... odd
- Susan Beebe
@Coldbrew - tailgate - nice analogy!
- Susan Beebe
thats my impression, too, susan.
- Hilary Talbot
oh somehow my comments were not updating....now I see an active chat
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Shame no Turntable.FM in the UK yet
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Or even Pandora
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
I thought the Web was open?
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
the web is open - content is closed
- Ankush Narula
Beebe, thanks. I spend 5 days a year waiting for the Telluride Bluegrass Festival to start, every year :-)
- coldbrew
The dubstep rooms are always jam packed
- Jerry Schuman
Content use to be king!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
there's a poetry room
- Kevin Marks
Aside from the handpicked, human-passion-driven curation, there are no commercials (right?). But that can't last.
- Denise Howell
I was thinking about a "Best of Gillmor Gang Outakes" room
- Jerry Schuman
haha
- Susan Beebe
Some fellow Coloradan's also just won the National Poetry Slam: http://www.cpr.org/article...
- coldbrew
And not in Canada either.
- Bruce Segal
well, if Seth can sell enough music through referrals, maybe it can last
- Kevin Marks
http://console.fm was the one...
- Kevin Marks
Marks: I think appeasing label execs with data will be more difficult, no?
- coldbrew
when are these services going to work without Flash player? (ed)
- Ankush Narula
eh? Ankush? You mean 'without flash' ?
- Kevin Marks
rule of thumb in US retail, room for three big players in each product category. “Good, better, and best”
- clive boulton
yes
- Ankush Narula
Thanks Kevin, I forgot about that site
- Bruce Segal
haha.... it started with the advent of the BBS
- Jerry Schuman
I'm not exactly clear on how turntable is maneuvering around IP law, and such. Anyone care to explain?
- coldbrew
Ham Radio, before BBS :)
- Charlie Isaacs
they're using the DMCA exemption that Pandora uses, which is very fiddly
- Kevin Marks
smoke signals before ham radio
- Ankush Narula
Ok. So, safe harbor?
- coldbrew
with tt, you're sharing another activity while conversing about it
- Jerome Hughes
I prefer pidgeons and usenet, personally.
- coldbrew
the listener can't know what is coming up, or hear more than 3 songs by the same artist per hour on a channel, plus reporting rules etc. If those are all satisfied, there is a statutory rate of something like a tenth of a cent per song per listener. Right Denise?
- Kevin Marks
“Good, better, and best” - WinPad, DroidPad, iPad. (FB, Twitter, G+)
- clive boulton
They are also a MediaNet client.
- Jerry Schuman
For example, Adam Bosworth is on G Plus: https://plus.google.com/1148568...
- Alex de Soto
Good info. Thanks, folks.
- coldbrew
Scoble - we're not your friends on G+ ?! hey now... ... tisk tisk! :P
- Susan Beebe
I like Scoble's wife's method :)
- coldbrew
I wish my wife would do that before she bought something, wait for me to check it out for a year :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Would everyone be excited if Microsoft came up with the + service first. Microsoft+
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
im not super interested in Plus yet
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Glitz: If I got to buy it and install it on my machine? Yes.
- coldbrew
Not G+ adding Scobleizer or Zuck (don't want my stream swamped)
- clive boulton
Check out this chart from NYT... feel bad for any tablet not IOS https://images1-focus-opensoci...
- Jerry Schuman
is youtube in hangouts somewhat like the group experience in tt though for a smaller group?
- Jerome Hughes
Steve: invite @EdChi (Norvig's G+ HCI) to guest on GG
- clive boulton
oops.. bad URL
- Jerry Schuman
it's a hang-in
- Jerome Hughes
Never say never Steve! :)
- Susan Beebe
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011...
- Jerry Schuman
Biggest problem with Google+ - API isn't generally available - as such all innovation happens in the Google Walled Garden.
- David Ashwood
FB Messages unifies e-mail, IM, SMS, and proprietary FB messaging - pretty smart. Wait until they integrate that with Skype
- Ankush Narula
twitter still dosent know how to make money
- Abhijeet Desai
Twitter is gaining 20 million spam accounts per month
- Ankush Narula
making money is overvalued ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
google dosent need to make money with plus cos plus makes search better & search makes a lot of money
- Abhijeet Desai
I created 5 Twitter handles in the last 24 hours, mainly for testing
- Charlie Isaacs
http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2011...
- Jerome Hughes
may be in nokia dominated countries like india. windows phone 7 can make some impact if any
- Abhijeet Desai
John has a cute little silver box hanging over his head. like a video game. What happens when you smash it ?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
There will be only iOS, Android & RIM phones in the future
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
"the cream, the cream, it's on the shelf"
- Jerome Hughes
Thanks to BBM, iMessage, Disco/Huddle, FB Messages - the fragmentation will keep SMS winning - and AT&T will be happy to charge you up the butt for it
- Ankush Narula
Teens will always keep RIM kicking
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
More than teens - I see Blackberries everywhere in NYC
- Ankush Narula
Exactly! Turntable knows an API helps make the community
- David Ashwood
a turntable listen+chat app on phones would be great
- Kevin Marks
But the team thinks RIM is dead
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Moe: I disagree. Most teens I know like iPhone or iPod touch better.
- Robert Scoble
depends on which dead you mean
- Jerome Hughes
and kodak?
- Jerome Hughes
Correct Robert. But teens that can't afford those two, always use RIM
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
RIM is a popular 2nd phone
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
"Good, better, best” {Android, WP, iOS} Low cost, best tools, premium.
- clive boulton
Robert: I agree with Moe - teens have no trouble carrying a Blackberry and iPod Touch
- Ankush Narula
Moto will be NFC for consumers & merchants & to push the Android hardware to the next gen
- David Ashwood
Has the BBM iPhone App that was going to be launched, been killed now?
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Ashwood: Are you suggesting Motorola Solutions (aka Symbol/ not Mobility) is going to help bring a POS to market with NFC capability?
- coldbrew
Patents???
- Ankush Narula
Interesting breaking: Apple seeking injunction against most Samsung Android phones and tablets zd.net/qrOrti
- Charlie Isaacs
Yep
- David Ashwood
Nice. Sounds interesting to me.
- coldbrew
Ankush: and Photobucket's CEO says Android is growing like a week. iOS is growing healthily. RIM? Headed down in usage. I don't see any way it gets out of this death spiral.
- Robert Scoble
It's what will bring Google wallet to the masses. NFC is a great idea - but it takes an age for the hardware to catch up. Moto shortcuts that problem
- David Ashwood
Maybe we will see a Vivotech acquisition.
- coldbrew
Exactly - carriers are one of the prime lags ;)
- David Ashwood
Robert: pretend most people don't run apps on their Blackberries - they use e-mail, SMS, BBM, web and maybe a few choice apps
- Ankush Narula
Carriers will be the backbone of wifi - virtual wifi providers like Fon will spring up - but carriers are still trying to understand what that means. Remember they don't want to be just a pipe
- David Ashwood
50% globally is Android at the mo
- David Ashwood
will they get the profit?
- Jerome Hughes
Turntable FM. (No Static At All)
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
They should rename Netflix to MadMenTV just for Steve ;-)
- Ankush Narula
What's the content lockin on iCloud?
- David Ashwood
the iCloud storage goes away if you stop paying
- Kevin Marks
iCloud replaces Dropbox - where's the multi-user collaborative stuff - and the server-side apps?
- Ankush Narula
Aye Kevin - but from an App provider/integration perspective - could you put the same content on iCloud and iGoogle?
- David Ashwood
a great thing that didn't survive... Sunday Night... http://www.metafilter.com/64744...
- Jerome Hughes
I've been watching season one of MadMen
- Kevin Marks
and misunderstood at 1st as was the iPod
- Jerome Hughes
Looks like Apple TV ain't a hobby anymore!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
"I much prefer your earlier work"
- Jerome Hughes
Ping is Pong!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
these aren't failures, they are steps forward to the ultimate goal(s)
- Charlie Isaacs
GoogleTV aint slacken, something brewing for October
- clive boulton
The cable companies have quite a bit of say on the software for set-tops.
- coldbrew
Windows is closed!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
and to get the gamerz to differentiate
- Jerome Hughes
Has anyone heard anything about Boxee in a while?
- coldbrew
Get Laid or Get Paid. Sweet!
- clive boulton
Get Sucked or Get Fudged!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Moe1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Whose making the Blackberry Enterprise Server replacement?
- coldbrew
Google TV sucks
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
that's Exchange currently, no?
- Jerome Hughes
Where is Google Music?
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
It integrates with exchange, but there's also a separate PKI implementation.
- coldbrew
Airplay will end up more like http://oblong.com
- Kevin Marks
Google Music, lost at sea.
- clive boulton
Reeling In The Years
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
and his new beard
- Kevin Marks
Captain Google
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Thanks, folks.
- coldbrew
Wishing I could go to DreamForce (had a ticket) just toooo dang busy! :) have fun!!
- Susan Beebe
thanks guys:
- Susan Beebe
thanks
- Charlie Isaacs
will attend DreamForce live stream.
- clive boulton
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Business Lancer, clive boulton, Christi Olson and 6 other people liked this
who's here today?
- Dale Lature
you're here Dale!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yes, that's true, but I meant to ask "Whos' ON" :)
- Dale Lature
hello from the bottom of the frying pan.
- Aron Michalski
hi, Aron! it's gotten a bit cooler up here, just in time for Lolla weekend
- Jerome Hughes
oooh boy. That can be a toughie. Did it in 2005 and my glasses were foggy all day.
- Aron Michalski
so they're pretty happy with low-mid 80s, for sure
- Jerome Hughes
We are having some sun up here in NW Washington, its been a beautiful week
- Christian Burns
where you're hoping for more warmth… Hi, Christian!
- Jerome Hughes
This is day 35 of continuous 100 plus. It just doesn't let up. Over 90 at 6am, 100 at 11pm
- Aron Michalski
feel for ya, have done it, but only for a couple weeks at a time...
- Jerome Hughes
I am only on for a bit today, Honest question, is there a way to download the whole show later?
- Christian Burns
I'm a moron for moving here.
- Aron Michalski
Aron. You will enjoy the weather here when you come. Not too hot at all
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm counting the SECONDS.
- Aron Michalski
standby everyone... mic needed new battery... and then there's the missing Scoble ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
and you'll probably love it there in the winter, too
- Jerome Hughes
hello there
- Kevin Marks
Welcome Kevin
- Christian Burns
look around the kitchen, by the pantry...
- Aron Michalski
I'm here, waiting for the call.
- Robert Scoble
Robert McScoble
- Ankush Narula
Sorry for the delay. Blame it on Teens in Tech. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Mayor McCheese...
- Aron Michalski
Check, Check 1 , 2, 3, Hello.
- Kevin Costain
We're on air now. http://www.building43.com/realtim...
- Robert Scoble
geez i botched that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
2+2 = you shouldn't be on the Internet
- Ankush Narula
Inside baseball that affect us all
- Christian Burns
who is google sutting down over pattents?
- Christian Burns
MSFT & Apple vs Google
- Christi Olson
Congress isnt keeping you from having a flying car
- Christian Burns
Google following up on the outrage we all felt over that episode of This American Life is a smart move. Lets try and get some traction on this issue
- Christian Burns
LOL
- Abhijeet Desai
the fear of being sued stops more innovation than we will ever know
- Christian Burns
Gruber's pretty much a Google-hater - it gives him better access inside Apple
- Ankush Narula
the battery makes a big difference.
- Aron Michalski
I just copied and pasted Gruber's actual quote: "Google seems to feel entitled to copy whatever it wants. Android copies the UI from the iPhone. Places copied data from Yelp. Google+ copies from Facebook. Their coupon thing is a clone of Groupon. And yet it’s Google that acts as though it has been offended when these competitors fight back."
- Alex de Soto
803 lawyers !!
- Abhijeet Desai
"Good comics borrow, great comics steal".
- Aron Michalski
Alex: there's prior art for all of that - it's just that those citations made those concepts high profile
- Ankush Narula
Let me guess, Apple?
- Ankush Narula
mining the vast anti-Apple developer vein
- Jerome Hughes
Why do you think that "look and feel" became a defense? It's because of the fact that code can be one line different, therefore not a complete rip.
- Aron Michalski
The apps we need will show up before the end of the day.
- Christian Burns
look and feel didn't succeed, it was actual code copying that got Apple/Microsoft into the lawsuit
- Kevin Marks
"ATTENTION ALL APPLE COMPETITORS: give up. signed, the Gillmor Gang PS- Resistance is futile.
- Aron Michalski
iPad Nano… Model No: A1203
- Jerome Hughes
facebook
- Christian Burns
google search.
- Aron Michalski
newsgroups!
- Jerome Hughes
Email is dead: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Kevin Marks
Moe: I keep hearing rumors of a new iPad. This year or early next is the question. I hope this year is true.
- Robert Scoble
"It's all about Facetime, Airplay, and Push Notifications", Love Steve
- Ankush Narula
Talking is dead.
- Aron Michalski
except in hangouts
- Jerome Hughes
I think xkcd sums it up: http://xkcd.com/934/
- Kevin Marks
Not putting flash on the iPad leaves a huge opening that HP and Android can take advantage of. So much content is in flash, and content is king
- Stephen Pickering
Facial recognition FTW.
- Aron Michalski
Kevin: Agreed
- Ankush Narula
GG, the original hangout, Should have got a patent
- Christian Burns
the Phone app icon on my iPhone stays tucked away in a 'Utilities' folder, rarely opened.
- kosso
the big issue is the human confusion with the backwards scrolling on Lion...
- Aron Michalski
And everything you need is also on android,
- Christian Burns
My most used app on the Mac and on the iPad is the web browser - by leaps and bounds
- Ankush Narula
Not hurting for apps, even if its not pretty
- Christian Burns
they beat them in 'shiny'
- kosso
Christian: bull. The apps on my Samsung suck compared to iPad.
- Robert Scoble
It's funny because most of the music recorded in the past 10 years was recorded on a Mac.
- Aron Michalski
Im talking phone, not pad
- Christian Burns
they beat them here: http://bit.ly/WindowsToMac
- MarkDilley
Still use my Nexus One.
- Aron Michalski
no contract android for $99
- Christian Burns
no
- Christian Burns
because my android can play to AppleTV
- Kevin Marks
We dont own a TV, no cable for almost 10 years
- Christian Burns
AppleTV running aTV Flash/Seas0nPass is great
- kosso
saw a 40" 1080p TV for $300 last week, tempted for a new monitor.
- Kevin Marks
Mager just gave me a spotify invite, finally.
- Christian Burns
Exactlt kevin
- Christian Burns
Christian: the pad is mostly what I'm talking about, although even on phones the iPhone apps are generally better quality than Android ones too, but Android is doing "good enough."
- Robert Scoble
Cloud Music, Cloud Services, it's important
- Stephen Pickering
music friends are starting to sling playlists on it
- Jerome Hughes
turntable.fm is still nicer
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: I agree, except on mobile.
- Robert Scoble
I agree Kevin
- MarkDilley
Spotify is social - I follow other people's playlists
- Ankush Narula
We are still a year or two from getting a tablet, so Android will be what we get, because it will be up to speed by then
- Christian Burns
Where is the random on Spotify - I like the access to the music, I just don't want to curate it so much, and if I do, I like Turntable.fm
- MarkDilley
for now seems Spotify is social async, #TT is social realtime
- Jerome Hughes
now that you can upload all your stuff to Amazon and Google for free, it won't matter until Apple does it. It works great, except it maxes out your onboard RAM on Android phones. Desktop, big win.
- Aron Michalski
I'll try it agin with more people on it, but way less social than turntable. Though apparently listen on turntable, add to spotify is good
- Kevin Marks
Spotify is great on the go...but turntable is cooool
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If only turntable had an spp
- Christian Burns
It's just like Louis CK says, "Everything's amazing and no one's happy."
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen hear hear.
- Aron Michalski
Turntable.fm is interesting... but the Flash client stinks
- Ankush Narula
they've got a system that deserves an app, good place to be
- Jerome Hughes
turntable just needs to get it's html5 audio act together. There's no flash except for audio
- Kevin Marks
instant post with G+ is a great back up
- Aron Michalski
Our home runs on 4 year old laptops, android and an old iPhone 3G on wifi becasue we are poor :)
- Christian Burns
Google is the king of the Cloud, what does he mean?
- Stephen Pickering
i have no desire to load up a big flash ui to have bobbing cartoon avatars play music. (even if I did have access in the uk)
- kosso
YouTube is google's spotify
- Kevin Marks
kosso - it is magical
- MarkDilley
Kevin +1
- Ankush Narula
it's not flash, kosso, it's html5
- Kevin Marks
Christian, I'm with you. I have to fight for every new shiny thing, my only keyboard computer is from 2008.
- Aron Michalski
transport
- Jerome Hughes
Spotify isn't free - it's ad supported and subscription based - I don't understand the argument?
- Ankush Narula
I'm glad to pay working musicians for their art.
- Aron Michalski
fair enough. bit still, I dont need the cutesy ui, I like the radio fine ;) especially amazingradio.com for listening to brand new stuff which mainstream radio wont play
- kosso
Yeah, but those were vinyl albums, they sounded better, you got all the notes and photos of the sessions
- Stephen Pickering
Don't we all spend money on tech?
- MarkDilley
Aron and Christian: I used to be poor, now my gadget budget is on credit cards. :-)
- Robert Scoble
We buy internet access
- Christian Burns
open turntable.fm on the iPad, everythign but the audio works - not flash
- Kevin Marks
kosso - it is all about the social on #TT - and there a DJ's creating music just for the rooms there.
- MarkDilley
but i'm in the uk. no access here.
- kosso
BTW, HBOgo doesn't work for Time Warner users.
- Aron Michalski
I dont want to be poor so we got rid of credit cards 3 years ago, See Cuban post
- Christian Burns
yeah, that sucks kosso. same with spotify here unti last week.
- Kevin Marks
+1 Kevin, Kosso
- MarkDilley
Great. Non-downloadable music on the clouds.
- Aron Michalski
If the beatles only got 5 cents per dollar you spent would you still want to buy it?
- Christian Burns
bullish on Big Data boom
- clive boulton
What do you think 'the YouTube of audio' is? (not just talking about music/movies)
- kosso
And I thought album covers where killed by the cassette tapes
- MarkDilley
mp3.com from 1999
- Christian Burns
I can only listen to my music when I'm connected to the network? Does anyone remember that the entire world is not 3G, let alone 1G?
- Aron Michalski
Spotify has some caching or downloading features for when you have not network access, I think
- Stephen Pickering
Anyone heard of a "signed" plug-in?
- Ankush Narula
I had pretty much given up on music, just listened to Pandora - and #TT surprised me, re-ignited my caring about music again, haven't felt that through spotify
- MarkDilley
web app sucks for me at ~200 friends
- MarkDilley
I'm conjecturing on the idea of storing all your media on the cloud and the media companies wanting to only make media available so you can't steal it. At least not the increasingly lazy populace.
- Aron Michalski
it works great on android
- Christian Burns
G+ for the Android update is great.
- Aron Michalski
Roberts battery huge
- clive boulton
It kind of sucked but then they updated it aboin
- Christian Burns
you could probably get the iPhone app run on the iPad by doing the same hack that people got the Facebook iPad app to work on it
- kosso
whining iphone users
- Christian Burns
Web app works fine for me with 1200 friends - that's absurd
- Ankush Narula
slow, crashes browser
- MarkDilley
They fixed the things I was griping about
- Aron Michalski
Aron's dead right G+ on Android great
- clive boulton
+ app crashes on ios 5 beta 4
- Arnold John
Robert's nearly 500 comments on one post (politics and the economy) froze G+ on my Chrome CR-48 yesterday.
- Alex de Soto
poor steve, stuck on iphone
- Christian Burns
Remember fast trackers: G+, 1 month, 25 million users, no Fail Whale. Try that Twitter.
- Aron Michalski
it was a rush job, just to keep iPhone users happy, since Android had an app. It will definitely improve - to much fanfare, I'm sure.
- kosso
android for the rest of us on phones,
- Christian Burns
Nebula moving out of John Doerr's basement, Big Data Cloud boom
- clive boulton
we'll have it with a usable interface
- Jerome Hughes
There is room for more than one company!!
- Aron Michalski
plenty of room, diverse desires
- Jerome Hughes
And in 2 years, android tablets will be "more popular" than ipad
- Christian Burns
You don't have to use it, like it or even acknowledge it. Just realize that it can exist.
- Aron Michalski
yingtongyingtong yiddee...
- kosso
Christian: probably, but they need apps first.
- Robert Scoble
School districts will buy android tablets because they can "control" them
- Christian Burns
There's a difference between different and wrong. Most of the time.
- Aron Michalski
2 years robert,
- Christian Burns
Christian: and because the Android tablets are cheaper.
- Robert Scoble
my summary of this show: haphazard ;)
- kosso
:) agreed
- Christian Burns
Apple= New York Yankees. Everybody else= everybody else.
- Aron Michalski
washington generals
- Jerome Hughes
the cake is a lie
- kosso
Making something out of the same thing.
- Aron Michalski
Aron +1
- Christian Burns
Jerome, talk about inside basketball...
- Aron Michalski
Google plus needs to implement ++Username to plus a person.
- kosso
Man, Friendfeed sure works great for this conversation
- Christian Burns
apps vs. web: the war to avoid typing a URL...
- Aron Michalski
++username - I agree, Kosso
- Hilary Talbot
24/96?
- Jerome Hughes
Android gets really buggy with installing too many apps
- Christian Burns
http://hybridauth.sourceforge.net/ is neat and useful - OpenID and OAuth etc..
- kosso
Just deleted 30 apps and it sped up my phone considerably
- Christian Burns
Aron: It's actually the war to steal the entirety of your screen (think Lion full screen apps)
- Ankush Narula
Christian- not enough RAM in 98% Android phones...no, make that 99%.
- Aron Michalski
When these mushrooms kick in, it'll make sense. hehehehehehhehe
- Stephen Pickering
Lion is the beginning of the convergence, very clear.
- Aron Michalski
But I was coming from a iPhone 3G so I have no complaints
- Christian Burns
A touch screen iMac with a keyboard and a really cool swivel arm is next...
- Aron Michalski
So are 10 years away from democracy?
- Christian Burns
http://my.nameis.me is excellent
- Kevin Marks
No comment on the pseudonym issue?
- kosso
I said google needs to drop it
- Kevin Marks
they all use their real names and don't care.
- Aron Michalski
yes Kevin - it is great
- MarkDilley
Gillmor gang still the best show
- Christian Burns
I think they have to allow pseudonyms - too many good reasons
- Ankush Narula
They are personally branded.
- Aron Michalski
Have you seen http://bit.ly/GoogleP... Kevin?
- MarkDilley
podcasts are dominate in drivetime
- Christian Burns
audible
- Christian Burns
they will develop a second layer, just like the business layer.
- Aron Michalski
Apple will buy Spotify
- Michael Wiley
Streaming is so stupid
- Christian Burns
...and we're gonna start paying per meg/gig/teri
- Aron Michalski
streaming its a false limitation
- Christian Burns
Apple will not buy Spotify
- Ankush Narula
Bandwidth is infinite. Mobile bandwidth has increased 55x in the last 7 years
- Stephen Pickering
vidcasts are podcasts... just don't lok at at ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
how will you connect?
- Aron Michalski
torrents are more efficient
- Christian Burns
too much in the 'cloud' is forcing far too much unnecessary streaming.
- kosso
Who owns Spotify? The labels?
- Stephen Pickering
Bandwidth is infinite? Tell that to the millions who now have data caps and throttling.
- Tinfoil 2.0
kosso +1
- Christian Burns
Neither of them sign bands.
- kosso
how many gig of content can we consume per day?
- Christian Burns
to the cell network? Wifi? Someone else's wifi?
- Aron Michalski
artists make hardly any money at all on Spotify.
- kosso
That's last mile that has been choked off by regulation to slow the death of media entirely in one fell swoop
- Stephen Pickering
it will continue to be the domain of the rich and the addicted.
- Aron Michalski
Without the Telecom Act of 96 we'd all have gigabit internet right now, and the first internet meltdown wouldn't have happened
- Stephen Pickering
Artists need to diversify their own revenue streams - look at what's happening with musicians over on Etsy http://mashable.com/2011...
- Ankush Narula
I buy their t shirts. No streaming required.
- Aron Michalski
re music, better to have your favorites stored in higher resolutions than they'll stream, worth the overhead
- Jerome Hughes
Great, we need that group of people who F&%ed over the artist and F#$%ed over the listener at the same time survive. Hooray.
- Aron Michalski
That is the killer feature of #TT - upload own music Kevin Marks
- MarkDilley
streaming is great for discovery, if you've got ears & equipment, there's more there there locally for now
- Jerome Hughes
lets hangout on google plus & discuss technology guys http://goo.gl/BJP1j
- Abhijeet Desai
Zoë Keating says she gets people buying multiple copies of her albums to support her
- Kevin Marks
gold chain lizards
- Jerome Hughes
you're welcome
- kosso
Broke even
- Stephen Pickering
Thanks Kosso!
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Tina, thanks gang...
- Aron Michalski
ciao
- Ankush Narula
Splendid! Cheers! :)
- kosso
thanks everyone here... you make this show GREAT!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cya guys in the hangout all r free to join http://goo.gl/BJP1j
- Abhijeet Desai
Time for a cup of tea. Ta ta for now.
- kosso
delete a G+ circle, g8 annimation
- clive boulton
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who's on today?
- Kevin Marks
you are
- Steve Gillmor
kevin ... steve ... + ? ...
- Xenophrenia
just me?
- Kevin Marks
.Oscon takeaway, the boom's about Big Data.
- clive boulton
Me.
- Robert Scoble
Tina - can't find Gillmor Gang on Ustream for iPad - used to work fine with the iPhone version
- Ankush Narula
hmm... need to work on that later. need to start the show.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
k
- Ankush Narula
:)
- Christian Burns
Danny's mic is hot
- Jerome Hughes
getting some packet loss here, I may need to switch to my 4g
- Kevin Marks
that's good Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
well ... overlap with TWiL ... missed the start .. hmm
- Xenophrenia
I created a filter for gmail that autoarchives notifications or comments on g+
- Christian Burns
Hey Forget about Twil ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
G+ circles making FB design antique
- clive boulton
This is a beta being tested out on the public
- Xenophrenia
Just catch twil later, this is realtime folks
- Christian Burns
they need to test it at scale
- Kevin Marks
a brilliant comment Christian!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
TWiT shows are where I started (actually TechTV is where but... ) ... didn't discover this til later ;-) ... I have an interest in the legal issues with tech
- Xenophrenia
Tina chucklin'! :D
- Jerome Hughes
Joe Hewitt talking to MG over on TechCrunchTV
- Ankush Narula
Its called failing better than facebook.
- Christian Burns
Denise Howell is very smart...
- Kevin Marks
Loren said that about the squid
- Christian Burns
Mute this gif
- Christian Burns
how about Places, Moe?
- Kevin Marks
I love Denise...really I do1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
perhaps it could be both
- Jerome Hughes
with different views once that's more possible
- Jerome Hughes
Community is building with chrome plugins
- Christian Burns
This is so much more about profiles and identity... the activity stream and comment systems are a byproduct
- Jerry Schuman
Google can adopt the best features later
- Christian Burns
Google needs to accelerate personas combined with trust network validations
- Jerry Schuman
yep Jerry
- Christian Burns
Jerry - those just rollin' still get to breathe exhaust
- Jerome Hughes
yes
- Xenophrenia
Steve, bringing it back,
- Christian Burns
and then what happened?
- Jerome Hughes
2 much G+ noise like corp email CC
- clive boulton
Google can address one of the biggest stumbling blocks today.. DISCOVERY, especially when it comes to how I can be contacted.. via a circle, via a VoIP call, via a Hangout etc etc etc. Combine webfinger with profiles and you're talking the directory of all directories.
- Jerry Schuman
Its still a mystery to me, few of my contacts use it and so it remains idle.
- Arnie Klaus
g+ is here to stay
- Christian Burns
cross posting sucks
- Xenophrenia
I would like to crosspost to facebook
- Christian Burns
I stop following people who do that - I'll follow your Twitter feed if I want to see you Twitter feed ;-)
- Xenophrenia
this is a great example of how I want to see a message... the message routing should be recipient determined.. not what the hell service I'm logged into.
- Jerry Schuman
Cross posting *everything* sucks, but cross posting *some* content across many networks can be useful.
- Chris Bray
Facebook killed our family blogging, g+ is going to bring it back
- Christian Burns
cross posting should be earned ?
- Jerome Hughes
Apple-Twitter all the media and best personal tools.
- Arnie Klaus
Cross post photos
- Christian Burns
Chris: exactly, and copying and pasting doesn't take long.
- Robert Scoble
yes - it depends on how and where ... but many who do that only post in one place and forward it to everyone else
- Xenophrenia
I understand *why* they do it ... but just because you can doesn't mean you should ;-)
- Xenophrenia
I copy and pasted my blog post in, but the lost links made it less useful
- Kevin Marks
I tend to use #fb on the end of a Tweet to cross post to Facebook, #li to post to LinkedIn, I'd use #gp to cross post to Google+, but I use them sparingly and only when applicable.
- Chris Bray
solution... be a better noise processor
- Jerome Hughes
our 8 year old family blog has been silent for 2 years
- Christian Burns
Tumblr's got blogging dialed right in
- clive boulton
Ping is still a sleeping giant.
- Arnie Klaus
Posterous is how we do photos
- Christian Burns
LOL
- Jerome Hughes
Kevin has mad self mute skills
- Christian Burns
Kevin, nice headset and noise reducer. Brand?
- Arnie Klaus
suddenly I'm surrounded by lunch people. oops
- Kevin Marks
skillz!
- Jerome Hughes
Posterous seems to do pictures best, overall prefer Tumblr's edge
- clive boulton
Moe... iOS5 *tw integration to the rescue
- Jerome Hughes
It's a Sony headset, with active noise supression.
- Kevin Marks
I have Danny in a circle called "flame bait"
- Jerry Schuman
kevin -- people found you. there are no private corners!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google+ shows there still is room for someone else can get into the game.
- Arnie Klaus
gmail was a beta until they had it replicated across data centres
- Kevin Marks
g+ is whats happening now
- Christian Burns
the keynote just ended, and the 1000 or so left are snacking
- Kevin Marks
did you see MSFT's attack video on gmail?
- Kevin Marks
food rules
- Tina Chase Gillmor
google corp does need to learn, Danny pushback helps make that happen
- Christian Burns
Kevin, MSFT's 'GMail Man' is cringeworthy isn't it!
- Chris Bray
like with Apple - it's a religious type of thing ... people get a little crazy when they nearly worship something - Apple inspires religious experience according to science ;-)
- Xenophrenia
I wish Scoble hade a circle for posting to non noisy commentors.
- Christian Burns
Apple religion will launch ping
- Arnie Klaus
GMail Man is FUD ... scaring people for profit ...
- Xenophrenia
Scoble, do you read every comment?
- Christian Burns
I try. But I do fail.
- Robert Scoble
Like Leo said on Windows Weekly to Paul Thurrott - it's really no different than spell check only using it for different purposes ;-)
- Xenophrenia
totally understandable
- Christian Burns
I miss OSCON.. needs to come back to San Diego
- Jerry Schuman
I dont comment on a scoble posts because It feels like I wont connect, just add to the noise
- Christian Burns
call me back
- Kevin Marks
g+ embedded Peter Norvig direct report Ed Chi for HCI analysis / noise control etc
- clive boulton
I love the nearby stream for g+
- Christian Burns
node,js getting a lot of attention too
- Kevin Marks
Christian: when I'm posting I'm almost always reading every comment, even when they come hot and heavy. But after say 30 minutes the chances I see it go down.
- Robert Scoble
Good to know, I also dont post unless I have something to add :)
- Christian Burns
Dont comment I mean :)
- Christian Burns
a bug?
- Kevin Marks
So the people who think before they type are the ones you don't read ;)
- fuzzyscorpio
@robert i found a complicated way to share a circle with people who are part of the circle.
- Abhijeet Desai
anyone going to the TechCrunch party later today?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yes, flying back for the TC party tonight
- Kevin Marks
Cant go, Need to take care our our goats.
- Christian Burns
August Capital, tho' I think it's sold out
- Kevin Marks
send them a huddle message . when u c the participants of the circle . @ the end u c an add to circle option so u can add all those people in the huddle to a circle,
- Abhijeet Desai
see you later then Kevin. Maybe a drink together
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Christian - Goats sound like more fun!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I search for Rackspace and I see that Robert and Ben Fisher +1'd the site
- Jerry Schuman
Interestingly that same "xxx Shared This" also seems to hook into my Twitter feed somehow since it identified a share from a contact that's not on Google+ yet...
- Chris Bray
ya even i saw that
- Abhijeet Desai
I get HD net from Mark Cuban and Virgin inflight from Porter Gale when I search for movies
- Kevin Marks
So if lady gaga will +1 a page on google, would up the ranking for the little monsters?
- Christian Burns
probably separate DBs at the moment
- Kevin Marks
yes, christian
- Kevin Marks
they are working on it is what google said
- Abhijeet Desai
It'll be interesting to see how the fact that my Google+ and Twitter social graph is very different to my Facebook social graph (mainly tech/work rather than family/friends) affect these result promotions.
- Chris Bray
yes, social search is part of this
- Kevin Marks
lost you Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
crazy to be able to have these meaty commentaries and conversations but unable to retrieve any of it
- fuzzyscorpio
you're back!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
interesting.. http://blog.superfeedr.com/meta...
- Jerry Schuman
It’s a Chrome application that will silently build a small firehose of all the web services that you use online. It will show you some of these messages as HTML5 notifications.
- Jerry Schuman
Got to make lunch for the kids, see ya
- Christian Burns
there's now a right-wing plan to report Barack Obama for spamming twitter
- Kevin Marks
I actually think almost everyone now has "heard" of twitter, even if they don't use it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I can guarantee that my mother knows about both Twitter and Google+. Primarily because I'm her son and we're connected on FB and she's actively involved in politics. She's also 72
- Jerry Schuman
(mental image of Kool-Aid guy with a Facebook tattoo breaking through a firewall)
- Ankush Narula
Can someone explain the difference between search and track?
- Ankush Narula
twitter is now fail-whaling for me. did Obama DDOS it?
- Kevin Marks
Get rid of Xeni and you'll cut down on the cat photos ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
ya we need search for google plus
- Abhijeet Desai
Abhijeet: Sparks might eventually be that
- Ankush Narula
it's bloggy :)
- fuzzyscorpio
Anybody found a really good use for Sparks yet?
- Ginger Zumaeta
ankush... track was realtime push, search is just behind pull
- Jerome Hughes
may be but sparks is more like google news
- Abhijeet Desai
But sparks isn't nearly as good as google news - wish it was
- Ginger Zumaeta
i doubt it will fail but they may plan to buy twitter anyways !!
- Abhijeet Desai
sparks is a placeholder at the moment - I think we're going to see something really cool there that uses search algorithms and filters based on your social interactions/profile
- Ankush Narula
Nice Steve Gillmor gave Amy Winehouse props
- clive boulton
one of my friends at Google who codes for Apple just quit to build his own iOS apps
- Kevin Marks
Google should look outside and hire contractors that can kick ass with iOS.
- Alex de Soto
LOL robert
- Abhijeet Desai
Big companies create their own silos
- Arnie Klaus
Google has 10 iPhone apps - I don't understand what Steve is alluding to
- Ankush Narula
Big G running a torrent of Android Hack-a-thons 3rd and 4th qtr
- clive boulton
Steve has been playing Amy Winehouse at home all week
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the primary users of plus in its limited trial is alpha-geeks. I believe there is a general perception that IOS isn't for alpha geeks... that's Androids domain
- Jerry Schuman
Google got burnt by Apple holding up apps before; I bet Vic is still grumpy about that
- Kevin Marks
right Jerry
- fuzzyscorpio
@Kevin that too
- fuzzyscorpio
Tina, great, he was not alone.
- clive boulton
the Google+ app on android is not specially tuned for the android tablet either.
- Kevin Marks
the politics of dancing
- Jerry Schuman
Rapid adaptive social tool design
- Arnie Klaus
Jerry: most alpha geeks I know use iPhones. Android has that peception, yes, but only 20% of the Where 2.0 attendees had ANdroid. Everyone else had iPhones.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I totally agree with you. It's also my experience but I can only imagine the discussion among product management on Google regarding platform priority.
- Jerry Schuman
@Robert that's nice to hear.
- fuzzyscorpio
(I am an iDufus :))
- fuzzyscorpio
I'm currently using an HTC Inspire and curse it daily
- Jerry Schuman
Noise: Betas are so 90s. I'm using Mac OS X Lion $29 "non-beta" now. Issues crop up daily but friendly geeks share their workarounds while we wait for an update from Apple.
- Alex de Soto
not very well defined noise
- Jerome Hughes
Steve - in the meantime use Boxcar for notifications (http://boxcar.io)
- Ankush Narula
hangout isn't on android either yet
- Kevin Marks
they never get surfaced... that is a badly flawed part of Circles
- Jerry Schuman
Right on the money Steve!
- Alex de Soto
I thought it was a major mistake when they gave the example of:
- Jerry Schuman
there should be a way for your private messages to go to your priority inbox or something. but has to be a message from someone you want to hear from.
- Laura Norvig
pseudo email with Google+
- Jerry Schuman
what value does this unknown entity provide?
- Jerome Hughes
Jerome: explain, sorry, I lost context.
- Robert Scoble
Google is crowdsourcing features for Google Plus. They have so stated. Their wheels are spinning...
- Alex de Soto
Condensed view and other cool G+ features for Chrome: http://huyz.us/google-plus-me/
- Ankush Narula
ya we need hangout for mobile - android/ios
- Abhijeet Desai
@Robert why don't you turn off "added-you" notifications? or did I miss something?
- fuzzyscorpio
btw: you can create a circle and stick yourself in it to create the idea of an inbox.
- Jerry Schuman
I'm in marketing, and I don't see a problem with keeping all brands out for now. Their problem was letting a handful in.
- Alex de Soto
you can't turn off added you from the notification stream, only from email
- Kevin Marks
when someone you don't know injects, what does their history tell you about their motive?
- Jerome Hughes
thanks @Kevin, sorry, I see that now
- fuzzyscorpio
but how are you ever going to see my new product code named SQUID?
- Jerry Schuman
lol
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jerry points out the boy in the filter bubble
- Jerome Hughes
That right Jerry. I use one as a "Read Later" circle.
- Alex de Soto
you can filter your notifications though, in the web interface. You can see either "added" or "posts you made" etc.
- Laura Norvig
G+ Android app is sweet (to me)
- clive boulton
I do wish cats and their admirers weren't becoming the whipping post of G+ :)
- fuzzyscorpio
I'm having way more fun with Spotify this week than with G+
- Laura Norvig
like a twitter retweet in the web ui
- Ankush Narula
more seriously, I also kinda wish I could refuse people the right to circle me... already I'm thinking i should stop using "Public"
- fuzzyscorpio
good idea robert
- Abhijeet Desai
Certainly you want to hear about MY cats!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I should be able to mutea user from my incoming stream
- Christian Burns
from Android
thanks for the snappy ringbacks tina
- Kevin Marks
feline order of personality
- Jerome Hughes
you should have some special circles for that
- Kevin Marks
gesturing!
- Jerome Hughes
exactly
- Kevin Marks
alert me more strongly with...
- Kevin Marks
I missed that notifications filter dropdown on plus.google.com, thanks @Laura Norvig! that's handy
- fuzzyscorpio
Hey Christian... did you already feed those kids. Man you're fast
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Noise prolly inspired Dave Morin
- clive boulton
it's easy to miss, fuzzyscorpio - I stumbled on it randomly.
- Laura Norvig
the notifications filter probably doesn't help Robert because he doesn't want to break from the stream
- fuzzyscorpio
Noise is relative. So filtering en masse would be difficult. User tagging (of posts) would help.
- Alex de Soto
Hold on they've said that this deployment is a stripped down version of something more fully fledged that is deployed internally.
- Jerry Schuman
@Tina I'm going to look for you over there and put you in my "feline" circle :)
- fuzzyscorpio
Danny's got it.
- Arnie Klaus
Geez I hope The Google+ dev folks are listening today. we're doing some good work for them here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google is gun shy from the Buzz blow back
- Jerry Schuman
they intend to add it to other google products, they've said that, so probably testing that internally
- Kevin Marks
other teams didn't believe in it initially?
- Kevin Marks
Ping is a field trial with patience.
- Arnie Klaus
Yep, I'm standing in the kitchen just eating now. Not able to listen, just ff on the android
- Christian Burns
from Android
I love broughten... it's good with brautwurst.
- Jerry Schuman
ha
- Ankush Narula
lol @Jerry
- fuzzyscorpio
Reuters FLASH: Bill Gates sells 5,000,000 shares of Microsoft for average $27.59 each on July 27, 2011 -SEC filing.
- Alex de Soto
I saw the WebOS tablet from HP here, nice OS, tablet too heavy for now
- Kevin Marks
Jerry ha
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Short MSFT..
- Jerry Schuman
Do they still use Zunes?
- Arnie Klaus
Sucks deep... no comment ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I use Facebook
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook = Family and Friends
- Alex de Soto
Windows Phone 7 - Arrington's comment on Gillmor Gang back in September: https://twitter.com/#!...
- Ankush Narula
Ankush: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
Just the idea they called it "Windows" shows how utterly borked MSFT is...
- Jerry Schuman
Scale of Microsoft and Partner channel biz model require top guy to be product guy (not sales guy)
- clive boulton
and then to name it after years... ooops!
- Jerome Hughes
lets carry this discussion forward on google hangout https://talkgadget.google.com/hangout...
- Abhijeet Desai
Jerry++
- Ankush Narula
Someone ask Loic how grateful he is that Microsoft lead him down the silverlight path for Seesmic and then abandoned it.
- Jerry Schuman
haha
- Ankush Narula
RIM is dead.
- Jim Turner
Jerry: Loic Plays for Sure ;-)
- Ankush Narula
MSFT + Nokia - Too little too late?
- Chris Bray
-honeycomb (in my searches)
- Jerome Hughes
RIM is valuable (to Google?)
- clive boulton
Cadence - The root of social.
- Arnie Klaus
API!!!! embrace the developers
- Jerry Schuman
"HP TouchPad. Works like nothing else." - I was at BestBuy yesterday and both display units were uncharged and turned off - unlike the iPads in the next display
- Ankush Narula
they need the eco-system
- Jerry Schuman
but can they tolerate it?
- Jerome Hughes
a deprecating decorator icon is optimal!
- Jerome Hughes
Instagram Cat Pictures!
- Alex de Soto
Cadence (lack of it) is MSFT's cross to bear.
- clive boulton
google has launched photovine isnt it like instagram ???
- Abhijeet Desai
I've been waiting for a Photovine invitation for a while....
- Alex de Soto
I can't believe Steve said that about solarization, LOL
- fuzzyscorpio
throw your phone in the air, just like you just don't care!
- Jerome Hughes
@Abhijeet same general idea, as I understand it
- fuzzyscorpio
who cares, Roku rocks!
- Laura Norvig
3DS price slashed abt 1/3rd
- clive boulton
Roku supports Hulu and Amazon as well as Netflix
- Ankush Narula
apps on AppleTV... it's just around the corner
- Jerry Schuman
they turn on that bluetooth chip and it's going to get interesting.
- Jerry Schuman
What does the bluetooth chip give you that the Wifi doesn't?
- Ankush Narula
Live stream that one Steve.
- Jim Turner
good save!
- Jerome Hughes
bye ;-)
- Xenophrenia
Good show guys :)
- Chris Bray
guys join a hangout to discuss tech now https://talkgadget.google.com/hangout...
- Abhijeet Desai
Thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Adios muchachos(chas)!
- Alex de Soto
Interesting, I'll definitely tune in again! Sorry I haven't sooner.
- fuzzyscorpio
hello? did y'all finish?
- Kevin Marks
its over Kev
- Jerry Schuman
We should charge Google for product consulting.
- Robert Scoble
Amy Winehouse - Tenderly http://youtu.be/LNA2TdfsQhg
- clive boulton
r they listening? :D
- Jerome Hughes
Robert: We are the product
- Ankush Narula
Who needs instagram? https://plus.google.com/1095818...
- Kevin Marks
@kevin the show has ended
- Abhijeet Desai
Bye all http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ankush Narula
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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hello, is there anybody out there ;)
- Kenny
yup
- dlature
Hi everyone!
- Nir Ben Yona
Hi
- Ankush Narula
Hi all
- Kenny
Hello, hello, hello, Is there anybody in there?
- Kevin Marks
I am standing by at Kennedy Space Center
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Very cool Robert!
- Kenny
It must of been something to see the launch in person
- Kenny
Kenny it will be cool if this call works
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
hangout?
- Kevin Marks
The launch was stunning
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Facetime!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
oh dear
- Ankush Narula
Kevin, you start one and I'll join ;)
- Kenny
maybe after the show, I want to save the bandwidth for Skype
- Kevin Marks
Robert: Hope to see the Space Center in the background without Rackspace banners ;)
- Alex de Soto
Still waiting for the call
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert: Awesome!
- Nir Ben Yona
It was easier to call the Space Station! Steve?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Has anyone seen/used the Extension that lets you see and update your facebook stream in G+?
- Kenny
Please stand by. Our countdown clock has stopped!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Kenny: I haven't yet
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
It actually works, which surprised me, adds a tab for FB right next to the G+ stream tab
- Kenny
Still haven't gotten the call
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Kenny: I have. Like it as well.
- Denise Howell
Sorry I think I am causing more troubles than usual
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Denise: I'm going to try the Twitter extension next to see how well that works
- Kenny
At least I can text so I know something is working
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Kevin are you on yet?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
nope
- Kevin Marks
Kenny, Robert: There you go: Google+Facebook extension http://bit.ly/orEmrG
- Nir Ben Yona
yup, and here's the twitter one: http://crossrider.com/install...
- Kenny
Man I pimped the heck out of this and it's not streaming. Serves me right I guess
- Jon Reed
Ok, started a hangout: https://plus.google.com/1045578...
- Denise Howell
I can join the hangout until steve calls I suppose
- Kevin Marks
Denise: I don't see it - just goes to your profile :(
- Kenny
Great question for video
- Kenny
you need to be on plus to get in the hangout
- Kevin Marks
I am :(
- Kenny
nowhere near the capacity from my reasonably fast 22mbps to do anything professional
- dlature
that's my experience after the first couple of hangout talks
- dlature
Looks like a good GG. Howdy, folks.
- coldbrew
Kevin - hang until someone dropsout if you can.I lost a machine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ah, OK
- Kevin Marks
MS probaly bought Skype specifically b/c this deal was imminent.
- coldbrew
OK; lmk so I can turn off the stream
- Kevin Marks
G+ feels follower spammy to me
- clive boulton
cliveb: I'm too much of a privacy freak to get on G+ at this point, but I'm intrigued.
- coldbrew
There is less stream competition on Google +. Robert's photo was likely on his follower's main page on G+ but not on facebook.
- Kyle McNeil
Mike - He's talking about interaction - but you know that
- Kenny
Mike, such a troll type thing...listen
- dlature
Sounds like a real measure.
- Arnie Klaus
Scoble's 'engagement' is 'cos Plus has a too-tight feedback loop, leading to like cascades
- Kevin Marks
Farber loves spam :)
- coldbrew
Has Steve G used G+?
- Kenny
Gillmor uses chatter...
- coldbrew
percent of engagement Robert metnions is interesting
- dlature
Scoble's engagement is persuasion driven attract to Rack Space
- clive boulton
the friendfeed noise is the same as the plus noise
- Kevin Marks
what hapens re: noise when PLus is open to all?
- dlature
I remember sitting in AP chem in '89 and writing every ph # I knew down on a piece of paper. There were 73 phone #s I knew. Now I know 4 [sorry fr the random factoid, but those were "friends"].
- coldbrew
Arrington thinks I can be replaced by Google+ hangout...Figures ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
agreed Circles nailed categorization
- clive boulton
the relative engagement in Google+ is also due to the novelty of the platform -I think in a huge way-. Scoble is a big "strange attractor" in this new channel so the tendency to comment/share is bigger now, don't you think?
- david medina
could replace your hardware with it, maybe
- Kevin Marks
medina: indeed.
- coldbrew
no yet
- Kenny
mikogo.com has free screen sharing
- Jerome Hughes
screen sharing could come via a browser extension.
- coldbrew
Wait for the G+ APIs
- coldbrew
i think Google+ will augment Twitter, tweets will be selectively filtered and pushed to Google+
- Charlie Isaacs
As a non-public persona, I disagree. Twitter should be a separate entity, where one can freely express their ideas w/o identifying info.
- coldbrew
Dan is sinking into the ground. Tip up Dan!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
one connection to a friend thismorning, One on one, Skype connection performed better than Hangout
- dlature
The deciding factor will be how much data is pushed there and "stored" there (Google+)
- Charlie Isaacs
Twitter, Google melding now makes some intuitive sense to me (post G+); didn't before.
- Denise Howell
David - I do agree, but think that the stream filtering is a major step towards keeping social media users exposed to what they are interested in. This innovation should increase the level of engagement over facebook and twitter.
- Kyle McNeil
putting the Quaint in Acquaintance...
- Kevin Marks
like they've run Blogger successfully
- Kevin Marks
How much $$$ for twitter?
- Kenny
Marks: I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Please clarify.
- coldbrew
Kevin: ditto; guessing sarcasm. ;)
- Denise Howell
Twitter's estimated valuation to be $8 billion to $10 billion
- Abhijeet Desai
Blogger is pretty successful 60 million + active users
- Kevin Marks
Marks; Agreed. However, that was not the question. No offense :).
- coldbrew
Could Viacom pay their CEO more?
- coldbrew
where is robert going ??
- Abhijeet Desai
HAHA - now the rumor starts
- Kenny
Dan's chin is mia, still glad to see part of him
- Jerome Hughes
I think @arrington hacked @scobleizer 's voice mail and knows Rackspace rumors
- Charlie Isaacs
people want sex, drugs, rock and roll, + murder
- Charlie Isaacs
LOL
- Abhijeet Desai
mike's sounding a bit SJ > JS ish... sugar water?
- Jerome Hughes
Through the "colorado grape vine," my understanding is that Parker and Stone are taking their talents out of viacom's grasp (i.e. Viacom currently distributes South Park).
- coldbrew
Charlie Isaacs - haha!
- clive boulton
at @techcrunch isn't it boring just talking about how Twitter, Facebook and Apple will dominate forever?
- Charlie Isaacs
what the hell happened to this show
- Kenny
"at @" ? Is that some convention I'm not familiar with?
- coldbrew
sorry, twitter handle
- Charlie Isaacs
My point, I suppose, was to pick a convention.
- coldbrew
What's the Arrington Aol countdown? 803 days?
- coldbrew
that's what they used to say when they found out you were from Chicago - at-@-at-@ (machine gun noises) ~ MJ changed that
- Jerome Hughes
techcrunch needs a techcrunch asia - and what's happening in the developing world
- Michael Roberts
Friendster
- Kevin Marks
gotta do that 1st!
- Jerome Hughes
difference of opinion is good!
- Jerome Hughes
Circles on Facebook happened last week http://circlehack.com
- Kevin Marks
any one gonna be on hangout now ??
- Abhijeet Desai
is AOL still in business? do I still need a 300 baud modem to connect?
- Charlie Isaacs
"plus a month"? Someone's counting something.
- coldbrew
join the hangout guys to talk tech https://talkgadget.google.com/hangout...
- Abhijeet Desai
iPad Yachting apps?
- Kevin Marks
we never see Mike Arrington out and about in Sea-at-le
- clive boulton
Desai: I've never had a camera attached to my machine, but I'm sure others might appreciate that.
- coldbrew
I always get my info from floridians...
- coldbrew
HA!
- Kenny
Wow, can we please cool the ad hominems?
- coldbrew
They're allowed to convict on circumstantial evidence (I think juries get confused about that); but they do have to be convinced that it's "clear and convincing" the person did the crime.
- Denise Howell
sorry, yes "beyond a reasonable doubt;" "clear and convincing's" a lower std.
- Denise Howell
Torvalds for president ;)
- coldbrew
differences of opinion are good!
- Jerome Hughes
Oh, he caused the deficit or presdied over the derivative scandals and crime? He caused that? Geez
- dlature
Why tax me...I earned my money
- Kenny
If you make a lot of money... hire people!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
instead .001% voted themselves all the money
- Kevin Marks
thank you Shrub for all the "success" you've wrought!
- Jerome Hughes
cool NASA shots on Scobleizer's Tumblr http://scobleizer.tumblr.com/
- clive boulton
it's a REPUBLIC . MIke. That means COMMUNITY. It doesn't exit for the rich to control EVEREYBODY
- dlature
I drove to the tip of Baja in April of '03 (~Iraq Invasion), sold my truck, and boated/ hitchhiked to Bolivia, and then I chickened out and came home to the US after one year of subsistence farming.
- coldbrew
and get around obstruction to set such rules
- Jerome Hughes
you got it Jerome.
- dlature
the bankers should serve as much jail time as murderers like in the Casey Anthony trial
- Charlie Isaacs
how is the US in great shape? compared to Europe? isn't 1 in 4 houses in the US. near foreclosure?
- Michael Roberts
that was supposed to be funny btw
- Charlie Isaacs
Robert what happens to Kennedy Space center - Disney East?
- clive boulton
So Arrington wants more rules - that takes enforcement - that takes more government...
- mal
Mike - you should run!
- Kenny
Tina, you got them to switch sides! :D
- Jerome Hughes
mal: that's not a fair characterization.
- coldbrew
you'll pay more in Canada?
- Michael Roberts
Canada/Belgium can be economically blocked. And French people don't care to move to Belgium. I say let's tax Michael Arrington more.
- Charbax
coldbrew: why not?
- mal
I will let him answer that, before I attempt to do so.
- coldbrew
Warren Buffett: I could end the deficit in 5 minutes. http://bit.ly/oaBXOc
- clive boulton
we talked about the Casey Anthony Trial and Politics. Can we talk about my root canal next?
- Charlie Isaacs
regarding taxes, if there is a tax on income that's not going to work wealthy people just reduce their income to 0...
- mal
Jerome LOL
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Charbax: Are you a US citizen? I thought you live in CA?
- coldbrew
therapy!
- Jerome Hughes
New Tricaster = G+ Hangout
- Kenny
Send a new Tricaster or we replace you with a Hangout
- Kevin Marks
any one free join the hangout https://talkgadget.google.com/hangout...
- Abhijeet Desai
Google+ Hangouts are better than a tricaster.
- Charbax
RAX trading at $45.11. Off its 52 week high of $46.49.
- coldbrew
sorry Kevin... I lost a machine as we were going on the air and couldn't get it back up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I can be the one who didn't this week
- Kevin Marks
CRM trading at $156.69. Off its 52 week high of $160.02.
- coldbrew
Machine blew Ithink
- Tina Chase Gillmor
No idea how Steve Gillmor's gonna recap this episode for Techcrunch.
- clive boulton
Kyle, I was trying to get some reasons for the huge difference between the both platforms (in the Scoble post) --but in any case I totally agree with you about the filtering (and the UI overall, great execution). I think this small-but-important things will give G+ a great advantage over other platforms. Really impressive.
- david medina
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 10am PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Burcu Dogan, Ross Miller, Nir Ben Yona and 10 other people liked this
Hanging out, waiting for the famous call on Skype.
- Robert Scoble
oops.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
you can mute a post, though.
- Laura Norvig
what!!!??? no Tina?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's not gillmor gang ready, but it would work for people who share and take turns ;-)
- Laura Norvig
we need a tina
- Kevin Marks
do hangouts get recorded?
- Kevin Marks
Great...now I have to worry about losing my job ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Still waiting for a Google Plus invite. Anyone got spares?
- Shafi Ahmed
The android app is pretty cool.
- Kevin Mullett
the notifications are really ... SQUIRREL
- Laura Norvig
lol @laura
- Kevin Mullett
Tina should be an inset on the video feed, interpreting the comments of the Gang with sign language or pantomime. :)
- Alex de Soto
Alex he,he
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It always seems to come down to noise control. include/exclude
- Kevin Mullett
I hate that you can only see all of the people someone is following rather than how their circles are arranged. I realize that's a privacy issue, but it means I have to build the same list of Librarians that all my other librarian peeps are building also.
- Laura Norvig
kinda quiet in here wonder where everyone could be ;)
- tylergillies
listening intently?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
And sparks are nothing more than RSS where they pick it for you. I expected some way to vote up or down the feed.
- Kevin Mullett
Your not in the right circles tyler, chats going crazy over here
- Paul E. Ester
the senders can control the noise - they can create a circle they share VC relavent stuff with. But they have to choose to share with you...
- jay morris
audio cutting out a bit for me. could just be my desktop choking under the load of having this and plus open at the same time ...
- Laura Norvig
+1, Tyler!
- Laura Norvig
18 comments on G+ and 15 likes.
- Todd Hoff
invite, please? tia!
- Jerome Hughes
i have invites...was looking for ya the other day.
- Karoli
whats up with upstream?
- tylergillies
ustream?
- tylergillies
damn safari autocomplete
- tylergillies
ah, it's not just me then.
- Laura Norvig
invites for G+ still havent opened up
- Kashif Khan
video is great here, just occasional freeze
- Paul E. Ester
sqwauk!
- Jerome Hughes
Have a friend use the "share" button to send you a message via your gmail account. That has triggered letting friends in many times.
- Kevin Mullett
when i first logged on to plus it said I had a person blocked already. I think I had flagged this person in gmail.
- Laura Norvig
is there a close comments feature on plus?
- Laura Norvig
it's the Zooey Deschanel problem http://hellogiggles.com/if-you-...
- Kevin Marks
I need Robert's Google cup. I will cut to it whenever I see it. Google, Google, I need that cute cup.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
facebook feels quite lethargic in contrast to G+ (and friendfeed for that matter)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
@Jerome I don't seem to have your email address. :(
- Karoli
google+ is friendfeed++
- tylergillies
I blame Josh Haley.
- Laura Norvig
Robert--train your VC's re: what to post.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
VC's are always posting lolcats
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
http://abhijeetdesai.blogspot.com/2011... guys c these changes i propose to google+
- Abhijeet Desai
again, the senders can choose who they are sharing with...
- jay morris
jromeh at gmail, thx Karoli! :D
- Jerome Hughes
that's your defense against noise. use the filters/circles.
- Laura Norvig
there more talk in here than on the g+ thread
- tylergillies
it's more frictionless here, tyler.
- Laura Norvig
oh had to refresh
- tylergillies
Man, this place is crowded!
- Ciro Villa
I want to be able to create a circle from my Google groups memberships.
- Karoli
but theres still more here
- tylergillies
Karoli, that totally makes sense.
- Laura Norvig
VCs have lives too, Robert.
- Laura Norvig
I disagree the upfeed didnt kill Buzz - the security scare in first 48 hours did.
- CHRIS VOSS
changes to the stream in google+ i propose have a look guys http://yfrog.com/gzhyclyj
- Abhijeet Desai
convore should be studied...good use of groups
- paisano
we should be able to add google calendar, docs and disco to google plus panel
- paisano
anyone heard about invites opening up?
- CHRIS VOSS
convore just didn't seem to catch that mass required.
- Kevin Mullett
someone suggested a toggle/sort between chronological and recently commented on. that would be cool.
- Laura Norvig
there is a way to invite people by sharing a post u make
- Abhijeet Desai
i'll be happy when people go away ;)
- tylergillies
Twitter isn't noisy because you have to go actually find the conversation, it's not presented to you.
- Todd Hoff
+1 todd
- tylergillies
Leo?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Too funny, but really if you have a problem seeing Scobles stuff dont follow, He usually has the most interesting info and after a while as more people join it
- CHRIS VOSS
how do you separate social from interest?
- Karoli
@CHRISVOSS, they have not opened up, but SOME are still making it in. http://bit.ly/j2RckM
- Kevin Mullett
Topic streams (like hashtags) would be good. Can you search "circles" by topic? Sorry, I don't have Google+
- Alex de Soto
@Kevin - ya I had like 18 new people this morning
- CHRIS VOSS
not seeing video. has the show started?
- George Herndon
@kevin I have like 24 people who still havent answered their mail. Maybe I should try just adding one email and calling a friend. Is this working for anyone else.
- CHRIS VOSS
Facebook did not kill FriendFeed; the users killed it!
- Ciro Villa
I think Facebook has helped train the masses to interact in a more Friendfeed-ish way so they *might* be ready for Plus.
- Laura Norvig
My dog photos are on lol
- CHRIS VOSS
@Chirs I was using the share button (top right) and adding their email individually.
- Kevin Mullett
@kevin - thanks and that worked? I'll try it.
- CHRIS VOSS
cat photos or photos of Louis Gray's cute kids...all the same thing lol
- paisano
plz tell me what u think of http://yfrog.com/gzhyclyj on @abhijeetdesai #googleplus
- Abhijeet Desai
yeah, just like profiles for google apps users is coming ...
- Laura Norvig
I think Scobles very right - I'm putting my family on google+ so we can do video chat for free over Skype - its also awesome for business video conferencing
- CHRIS VOSS
Scoble Vic said on TWIG that the video codec has not been selected yet and they are testing several different ones. So to say this video is best of breed could be premature.
- adolfo foronda
@LauraNorvig: Yep, I've talked about the FriendFeedization of Facebook, they got used to likes, events, link sharing (although most don't remove the URL from the publisher before posting). We must not forget that with time, users are evolving as more productive users and that they use more tools when forced into daily pageviews and such.
- Zu from AOD
can I request google plus invite here?
- Shoukat Dharani
Kids are going to LOVE the video component of Plus
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Seems like Tindychat, but better resolution, with people you know.
- Kevin Mullett
++Tina
- Zu from AOD
Tina, that is so true!
- Laura Norvig
@shoukout I need your gmail account for that
- Kevin Mullett
google+ hangout + kinect
- tylergillies
Vic also announced on TWIG that they would support Apple
- adolfo foronda
Thanks Kevin!
- Alex de Soto
yeah steve is just critical of everything
- tylergillies
Hangout seems like it will be an awesome work tool.
- Laura Norvig
will hangout kill the tricaster?
- Paul E. Ester
WHY are we hearing the gentlemens comments who HASNT tried Google+ As respectfully as I can say it, it seems hes left making up talking points without the information of experience.
- CHRIS VOSS
And he keeps dominating.
- CHRIS VOSS
I don't think Bradley's current hangout is public, I don't see it in his stream.
- Laura Norvig
@ALex, you're welcome.
- Kevin Mullett
++TylerGillies Hangout & a Kinect hack would rule, just have to find some good use of the tech.
- Zu from AOD
Hey Voss... it is The GILLMOR Gang ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
LOL
- tylergillies
@Scobleizer, liked your post re Google+ and grandmothers
- JP Rangaswami
@Tina my first time, lol is this normal? lol
- CHRIS VOSS
JP!
- tylergillies
LOL @Tina flashing Steve's name on screen!
- Laura Norvig
Buzz exists for feed importing, I don't see why it would be forced into + as it helps people focus on manual sharing/writing. Information overload fixed temporarily.
- Zu from AOD
Conversations start from inputs that often come from other feeds. Those need to be imported.
- Todd Hoff
my friendfeed was left for dead and used only for aggregation.
- Kevin Mullett
Pretty much Voss. You'll getit after a few times
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i am facing problem with the stream . anyone elase ??
- Abhijeet Desai
@tyler yes?
- JP Rangaswami
@Todd it depends. Since I spend so much time on Friendfeed, I enjoy seeing aggregated stuff, even from people who no longer converse there. Plus has to decide what it is, what it is for. Can't have cake and eat it too.
- Laura Norvig
Voss there are archives, including audio only daze.
- Jerome Hughes
JP i met you at defrag, i work with marshallk at rww
- tylergillies
So make two cakes Laura? :-)
- Todd Hoff
stream is a little weird today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If have a feed stream I would like to have an easy way to move to the conversational stream. I can do it by hand but it's often too much work.
- Todd Hoff
Maybe when developers get a hold of APIs there will be some killer client overlay thingy. So I can see ONE of what someone posted in multiple places but ALL of the conversations on ALL of the platforms. I wish.
- Laura Norvig
dont we all communicate toall top brands on twitter & not email ???
- Abhijeet Desai
Email is like a call control setup. It's starts the conversation between unknown parties. Try contacting you don't know without email. It's nearly impossible. After you connect then you skype, chat, or whatever.
- Todd Hoff
Abhijeet: yes.
- Robert Scoble
Messages to a known address that I control and can use cross platform? No that is not going away.
- Kevin Mullett
All subscription systems needs an email. Maybe not for discussion between friends, but businesses are using it a lot, sometimes just so they don't use a public email system and have internal discussions. Could be done in a 'corporate social network', but I don't see that soon.
- Zu from AOD
Its was a pleasure to hang out with you all - see you on google+
- CHRIS VOSS
\o, CVOSS
- Zu from AOD
so ya email usage is reducing . but dont know if it will go away . may be it will become like post is 2day
- Abhijeet Desai
Fun to see the small packets of impressions at 3 degrees of separation.
- Zu from AOD
https://plus.google.com/1153519... says 5000 limit
- Kevin Marks
Userscripts for power users? Else, maybe just a text-mode feed would cut it (as the Photos section which strips down the text).
- Zu from AOD
Also liked the "is this really Tom from MySpace" conversation last night https://plus.google.com/u...
- Kevin Marks
Right now +1s from the web are on a separate tab, don't go directly to the main feed.
- Laura Norvig
I don't know why they didn't build in a cadmus, summify, my6sense type system. Heck I would like a collapse button.
- Kevin Mullett
@Kevin, that was golden. "Tom, I think you're my friend on MySpace!"
- Laura Norvig
In other news...Facebook is experiencing technical difficulties...
- Ciro Villa
Collapse all would be cool.
- Laura Norvig
Multiple shares would have to be stringed together like on FB. "4 of your friends shared this"
- Zu from AOD
give me that cup!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
was there a conversation about today's gillmor gang on Plus? I can't find it. When I go to Steve's stream I see nothing.
- Laura Norvig
ice burn!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
the Wired article was pretty intense. A do or die proposition.
- Laura Norvig
Takeout.
- Laura Norvig
Just Scoble for now http://goo.gl/pOqx1
- Zu from AOD
thx, Zu.
- Laura Norvig
lol @ Google Freakout 9)
- Zu from AOD
there were several, laura. One in robert's stream, one in mine, one in johns. No hashtags, you see
- Kevin Marks
my head hurts. thx, Kevin.
- Laura Norvig
Twitter is absolutely tempting fate by messing with the API
- Kevin Mullett
Hey guys, joining in a bit late!
- Nir Ben Yona
Don't see any public posts KMarks, must be why I haven't seen it from you. // Hey Nir!
- Zu from AOD
woo FF... Steve sees FF in plus just like we do.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Ah, yeah, you most have posted to circles, not public, Kevin.
- Laura Norvig
Hey Zu :)
- Nir Ben Yona
Now how weird is it for Bret Taylor to have gone from google to FF to Facebook and now see this FFey google product come out to indirectly challenge Facebook?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I like that, the revenge of FF.
- Bluesun 2600
werd, Daniel!
- Laura Norvig
@Daniel lol, that surely is, what goes around comes in circles..
- Zu from AOD
Thanks for joining us! Now back to G+!
- Robert Scoble
so, who wants to try hangout?
- Kevin Marks
Nice show. Thanks for joining a bit early this time! People in the chat... you are awesome!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Gillmor Gang hangout party :)
- Nir Ben Yona
watched the recorded version many times live one is awesome
- Abhijeet Desai
I'd like to try it with my iPhone as a remote webcam for my PC, just have to set some things before.
- Zu from AOD
i mean Gilmore gang
- Abhijeet Desai
That's Gillmor... 2 "Ls" no "E"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
thanks for helping me understand this new toy...good to see y'all again.
- Karoli
sorry I was so chatty today. stayed up LATE plussing last night!
- Laura Norvig
please don't apologize for being chatty. Glad you were here!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hmm... still no invites coming through... perhaps G's way of saying "get to work!" :D
- Jerome Hughes
I'm not at my computer now but when i'm done painting this godforsaken furniture I'll try sharing something with you...see if that works.
- Karoli
thanks again, Karoli!
- Jerome Hughes
hmmm. I can't figure out how the heck to share with one person who isn't on this thing...still some interface issues for them to iron out.
- Karoli
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