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USAir plane lands in the Hudson River
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But I only learned about this from Thomas Hawk first because of reverse chronological posting. ;-) Had I been reading in the order posted, Kevin Fox would have been my "news source."
- michael silverton
bump.
- Mona Nomura
You know someone somewhere caught it on video. I expect it by this evening, as soon as they find an agent.
- Kevin Fox
currently 21F in NYC. brr.
- ⓞnor
Amazing rescue. Wow.
- Jim Mitchem
Someone took a picture from the ferry http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mona Nomura
Is there anyway i can mark this as "i don't like this" i feel guilty marking this news as "i like this.
- Adam Jackson
How about just change "Like" to "Bump"?
- Roshan Vyas
Definitely feel bad about "Liking" this. Bump suggestion is good
- mashable
Launched this around my office, and people are suprised about me knowing this already.
- Stephen Lecheler
I think "Like" should be "highlight" instead.
- Richard Lawler
Behold the power of live journalisim. Just got a huge burst of data from Scoble about the plane crash in New York.
- Stephen Lecheler
That Twitpic picture made it on MSNBC and CNN wild.
- Mona Nomura
suyun üzerine düşmesi büyük şans kimse ölmemiş. hatta tv den gördüm az önce bir vatandaş sevinçle çıkıyordu uçaktan.
- Volkan Yılmaz
I found out about this and the Steve Jobs news via Twitter. Change is happening...
- Louis Gray
Crossposted: This is "augmented social cognition" in everyday action -- moniter, moniter, signal spike, relay, relay, process, relay, react, involve, resolve, reset. Rudimentary, yes, but worthy of closer research! http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- michael silverton
Hudson river plane crash nyc - sources, all collection up to date, now krunch'd at http://krunchd.com/hudsonplane
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Waiting at PHL for the first US Air flight I've taken in a long time. I'm glad everyone is ok. I was relieved to hear the evacuation was orderly and hope ppl take this as a reminder that once and a while you should actually read the instructions for the emergency exit.
- Sarah Miller
Michael, good point on "source" How news gets propagated from now on is going to get very interesting analytically.
- Melanie Reed
The path that got me the news on this oddly was having TwitterGadget open in Gmail: CNN BreakingNews pushes it to my Desktop slightly faster than NTARC twitters it in my TwitterGadget window. I immediately tweet to my followers and then go to check FF
- Melanie Reed
macro- blogsearch has in general 270 macro blogs on this story ; compared with maybe 100.000 twitters on this, extremely slow as expected ; btw, coincidence that google took down 4 of their services today??? maybe they needed new server space for * this* [did google/nasa crash the hudson plane ?? [cp 2.o theory]...
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- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
^^^ PAGING SPAM KILLER TEAM. Thx.
- Micah
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Micah, put it in the Spam Group.
- Rochelle
Dealt with. (My first thought was 'oh crap, another jet landed in the Hudson??')
- Kevin Fox
Yeah, I was kind of psyched out too, Kevin. Rochelle, I'm now subscribed - thank you both.
- Micah
I am from Turkey. :)
- Cihan Özbek
Kevin, are you talking about the ewing2001akaNicomedy2010 account? I'm still seeing it.
- Rochelle
It's not actually spam. Read the comment: it's on topic. The rest of the account isn't spammy either.
- Akiva
No, we weren't talking about ewing2001. There was a spammer (username suatuigamala) leaving commentspam in the post. It's an unfortunate artifact that Micah's calling-out now points to an innocent commenter after the spam was removed. :-)
- Kevin Fox
Mastering Photoshop: Unknown Tricks and Time-Savers - http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010...
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We all have shortcuts that are essential to our daily workflow. A majority of them are staples such as Copy (Command + C) and Paste (Command + V), but occasionally we stumble upon a shortcut we wish we’d learned years ago.
- Halit Altunterim
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hollyrae to hollyrae's feed, FriendFeed for Beginners, FriendFeeders' Directory, Connect! Your PLN Lab, RWW: The Future of Tech, FriendFeed Feedback
Great FF groups to consider ~ add your suggestions here:
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Health and fitness: http://friendfeed.com/fit
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I had no idea about the H & F group... I'm so excited yay!
- hollyrae
It's not a group, but everyone should add James Reilly's feed. There's some smart stuff in there. http://friendfeed.com/jamreil...
- Brad Williamson
I will add James Reilly- who else? I am seeking leaders to direct newbies to for additional support for online learning.
- Sandra Johnson
I had tried to join a few groups early on, but they weren't very active. I love groups dealing with technology (hardware, software, networking stuff but also general educator techie stuff too) would love suggestions for active groups
- tektrekker
Holly I am right there with you, was looking at the H&F and I am really excited to stay connected with that feed.
- Cynthia
Brad, thanks for the suggestion of James!
- hollyrae
Cyn, once you find a group you like, consider commenting on some of those posts and/or subscribing to some of the folks who share...
- hollyrae
@Holly No prob ;-) That dude deserves a million subs.
- Brad Williamson
@Brad I think you deserve a few yourself ;)
- hollyrae
LOL, did you see James Reilly's most recent post? I had to laugh but I'm following...
- Julia
@Holly Nooooooo... YOUUUUUUU DO!!! ;-) http://friendfeed.com/hollyrae
- Brad Williamson
@Brad FFawwww shucks... .:) Omg @Julia, that's LOL.. I think it's from the Onion.
- hollyrae
I posted a load here: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Kol Tregaskes
Several people sent me this: The AP took a good hard look at the climate emails: Science not faked, but not pretty http://www.google.com/hostedn...
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It's utterly unsurprising to me that the details of a bunch of personal and professional emails are a little ugly. That's probably true for almost any of us. Who wouldn't, in their reasonably private communications, hurl a few barbs at people who've been relentlessly attacking your work and your person for years, tying you up with constant frivolous data requests, and in some cases (as with Wei-Chyung Wang) having people threaten to have you arrested for fraud? I'm glad I don't work in that field.
- Joel Webber
The Nature review raises a good point: What kind of support will scientists need to cope with frivolous FOIAs and other attempts to legislatively hinder their work?
- Mr. Gunn
Thanks for the Nature link, Hisham. The ending paragraph sums it up well, I think: "In the end, what the UEA e-mails really show is that scientists are human beings — and that unrelenting opposition to their work can goad them to the limits of tolerance, and tempt them to act in ways that undermine scientific values. Yet it is precisely in such circumstances that researchers should...
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- Joel Webber
Best GoogleVoice How To Do via Giz - http://mona.posterous.com/best-go...
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- Mona Nomura
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My 23 year-old sister signs up for Twitter, cancels. "Saw no point in the account."
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From this evening. Another thrilling Friday night.
- Louis Gray
So someone in *your* family doesn't grok Twitter either. My brother says he'll never even set up a Twitter account at all; he sees no point either. Apparently these people see the words "What are you doing?" above the text box and think it's nothing but the Facebook status update without Facebook. Some people just don't get it at all...
- Dennis Jernberg
In *my* family (asterisks per Dennis), most of them use Facebook. Nobody else uses Twitter at all.
- Louis Gray
Sure enough, Facebook is exactly what everybody in my family but me uses, too! Well, I'm on Facebook too, but I don't use it like they do. For one thing, I don't play any of the games; I hide them instead. And none of them has even heard of FriendFeed...
- Dennis Jernberg
hahaha that is epic!! Twittter got dissed by Ms Gray :D
- Susan Beebe
My family is the same. Twitter is pointless to them. There's so much more than just status updates to them.
- Jesse Stay
It's not fun when you sign up and have no friends / people to interact with...and all the interesting people only talk to each other. All my friends didn't "see a point" until they built their own network(s). Just sayin'
- Mona Nomura
My wife is also that way, btw - I may *just* be able to get her to join FourSquare though.
- Jesse Stay
Pfff. Cristo, you know full well twitter can't deal with the c word. :)
- Micah
I will make the bold prediction that most of my brothers and sisters will never join or use Twitter. I have one brother that does, occasionally, but the rest will never, ever use it. There's no point when they can get the same thing from Facebook and more.
- Jesse Stay
Mona - nailed it! :)
- Susan Beebe
Re Mona: I myself didn't even bother to sign up for Twitter till this last June, when I discovered an existing online songwriting community I belong to had a Twitter presence. That's when I set up my account and started to use Twitter. Then I found that some of the NaNoWriMo offshoots I take part in also had a Twitter presence. That was the beginning. Since then I've built up a much...
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- Dennis Jernberg
my girlfriend has no interest in it either. she uses facebook for all her net communication needs and is quite happy...
- Terry O'Fee
I got all my friends to sign up for Twitter, all found it pointless. So, I really don't get the point either. I'll delete mine too. :D
- Faraz Mullick
This is why I am on most social networks.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Only a few of my real-life friends are even on Facebook, and the ones that are rarely update. The social web can be pretty disappointing sometimes.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
Most everyone I know is on Facebook now, with a few exceptions that refuse to use much of anything on the internet except for youtube and blogs. Nobody gets the point of twitter, especially with facebook/friendfeed offering the same type of communication options, if not more. However, the nice thing about twitter/friendfeed is that it's searchable. The other day I was watching the events from Fort Hood unfold on twitter. I couldn't do that easily on facebook. That's where twitter shines.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
My Second Life avatar started on Twitter in the good old days, when everyone you followed followed you back. But my real life account has about 20 followers, so it only really works as a reader - and that rocks.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
second life.. i read books like snow crash, get excited and find SL nothing like it ;)
- Terry O'Fee
If new users have no followers and fail to get the reader part, of course they stop. And the statistics confirm that.
- Michael Slattery
from iPhone
I do agree. It is really difficult to convince someone to use twitter. And even if I do, they don't stay active on the service. They too state "I don't see any point in the service". Often are the times when they are convincing me it is nothing but a blog platform with 140 characters limit.
- Amit
I've learned that it's not a good idea to try to convince friends to join Twitter. Unless they get it, they will simply annoy you with Facebook style Tweets. Better to seek out Twitter users who have learned the knack of posting interesting Tweets.
- Jimmy Walker
If she doesn't get it, or anyone else for that matter, be glad they're on their way. Twitter never worked for me either and I'm happily not participating as well.
- FFing Enigma
I just realized I've been forgetting to tell them to start by following interesting people and not even think about posting their own tweets for the first little while (Robert's advice) - I wonder if that would make more of a difference.
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
from iPhone
My 25 year old brother said the same thing.
- Rochelle
+Mona I think there is a follower critical mass that needs to be achieved (of real interacting/interesting people) before anyone 'gets' Twitter
- Jason (not an Argonaut)
from iPod
My daughter of about the same age also got and shortly thereafter canceled a twitter account.
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
Twitter is useful as a minimalist news broadcasting system. Twitter is worse than useless as a medium for conversation. I mostly use Twitter in combination with Topsy searches to pluck off the most interesting news stories of the day on selected topics. Without Topsy, I would stop using Twitter entirely because of the information overload.
- Sean McBride
Mona's point is pretty much spot on. I kind of "imported" a Revision 3 forum network into Twitter, which led to FriendFeed, which had sort of a recursive bend back into Twitter, which led to finding Twitter recommendations, which then opened me up to following people from IRL, and then...ah crap. I've stopped using Twitter as much, though, because Facebook is where the people I CARE about really are. And in case you're wondering, I'm friends with Mona on Facebook ;)
- Mike Nayyar
I've hit a wall trying to get my friends to sign up for Twitter. It's like they've got an image issue. Whenever I try to explain it's value for news and as RSS replacement, people sort of stop listening. They're left thinking it's Facebook without the "fun stuff," which is lesser and redundant for them.
- Jeremiah Green
Is it fair to say that the tweets related to tech news that some folks think are so wonderful and important are primarily links to web sites, blogs, new articles, and so on produced by someone other than the tweeter? So far as I've seen, subscribing to, say, all the employees of a company doesn't produce much news about the company; instead you see posts about where the employees ate lunch and stuff like that. Of course I may just not be looking at the right people.
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
Unless you have a defined business strategy, there really is not much point to Twitter, unless you just want to connect for fun, which is under my business strategy :)
- Steve Borgman
Actually I don't see the point either, but I'm still here :)
- scott willeke
I keep a Twitter account just for a case of emergency, because it gets translated everywhere, and their mobile client is the lightest.
- 9000
Young people don't get Twitter so much.
- Hutch Carpenter
I am old Hutch and I don't get it
- just ZONED
I have all three FB, FF and Twitter - FB is for people I know personally save very few exceptions, FF & Twiiter overlap and are people I tend to follow but I dont know from adam - I prefer FF tho . I now have GW as of last night but am still struggling to get the hang of it- will lose my twitter acct I think
- viki saigal
SuezanneC has summed twitter up quite well. None of my family use twitter, took me ages to 'get it' but although my family all use Facebook, I don't like it. I stay to keep in touch with them.
- Technogran
It is very hard to keep motivated with all the bots, spam, ads, slaves and etc. Don't feel bad if you make mistakes because this is a new thing that is evolving underneath the feet of everyone on it. Like a quick sand that none of my family understand and I'm finding month to month that the growth of twitter it is getting more chaotic and the numbers of fake profiles is increasing, but...
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- Christopher Scott Ostini
worry if they ever get it ;)
- Christopher Scott Ostini
:)
- hollyrae
Neat thing is this whole film was filmed on Kodak Zi8 and a FlipCam: $200 cameras! http://eguiders.com/exclusi...
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I gotta get a Kodak Zi8 - that's amazing!~
- Susan Beebe
Oh, good to just see this since I just asked about cameras :)
- joey
I love these guys. They do amazing work with low-cost tools.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Damn impressive
- Mo Kargas
I love my Kodak Zi8.
- William McCamment
I just remembered that @andrewkfromaz left @sweetrepublic ice cream in my freezer....the anticipation is killing me
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Interesting identity discussion going on live now on @stevegillmor's gang: http://friendfeed.com/realtim... join in!
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Don't believe your lying eyes (TED Talk) - http://www.cnn.com/2009...
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"Put another way, only by accepting my own humanity can I accept the humanity of others. "Seeing myself see" creates the opportunity for this acceptance. Illusions, then, were not the point of my talk, but simply a tool for encouraging this process. Resolving uncertainty is essential to our survival. Hence our fear of ambiguous situations is palpable -- e.g., the inability to resolve sensory conflict between the eyes and ears can result in nausea (like seasickness). And yet it is only by embracing the unknown within education, science, art and most importantly within our own private lives that we will find new routes to more enlightened ways of seeing and being. Thus, courage not confidence is at the heart of this process of actively redefining normality, which is the route to compassion and creativity."
- Paul Buchheit
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Have you read Dan Margulis "Professional Photoshop"? It is all about that.
- Human being
The quote is a little unclear, but parts of of it seem apropos to the latest big English-language discussion here on FF.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
huh?
- Daisy
DJThistle: RT @justyn: Inspired by an issue @scobleizer raised last week: The rise of the List, the fall of personal space http://post.ly/BAJB - http://twitter.com/DJThist...
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Mona: YOU GUYS. The creator of Comic Sans is on Twitter. Didn't even know there was a (one) creator. Wow. ht: @brampitoyo - http://twitter.com/Mona...
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Comic Sans is a perfectly good font. So is Helvetica.
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
Nearly 200 Twitter applications that are useful for teaching & learning: http://www.c4lpt.co.uk/socialm... rt @Twitter_Tips
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jdlasica: How to get the RSS feed of a Twitter list: http://twiterlist2rss.appspot.com (via @stevegillmor) - http://twitter.com/jdlasic...
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lgshareditems: What Does Twitter Lists Reveal About You? http://j.mp/41vPlu - http://twitter.com/lgshare...
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Text books seem generally expensive and insipid (http://friendfeed.com/paul...). Are there any promising open-source textbook projects? (high quality content and likely to see actual use)
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http://twitter.com/bookmaid - RIT Rochester Institute of Technology has their own text book exchange on Twitter :)
- Susan Beebe
Obama's chief technology dude (can't remember his name) headed a project like this before taking the cabinet position. The folks at Buzz Out Loud (@acedtect @Mollywood @raygun01) would know about this as he recorded a message for their 1000th episode last week and we were reminded of the program (somewhere on the east coast).
- Kevin Arth
paul - Literacybridge.org is a great non-profit focusing on this issue. there are numerous issues here in terms of language localization, cost of print and transport of books, ability to have access to and understand content, etc. many textbook programs also assume one basic fact that is not necessarily true - literacy. although i am a fan of building schools and education, the reality...
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- Joyce
IMO, most textbooks betray a massive bias of quantity over quality, in part because quantity is confused with depth. If professors were doing their jobs (some are of course), they'd concentrate on distilling out the key points rather than partake of the laziness/spoils of the rigged textbook market... most textbooks are the equivalent of a public works program.
- Alex Schleber
I am planning on using an open-source book for the intro programming class I am teaching next fall at Colorado University - http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpy...
- Robert Felty
Doesn't the Wikimedia Foundation have a project for open source textbooks? EDIT: Why yes, yes they do, although YMMV. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki...
- Chris Charabaruk
I agree with Alex. Sometimes a good curriculum or at least a lesson plan is more important than a textbook. That's why I think a great project is Curriki.org. It is an online community, where educational resources can be created, shared and re-used in an open license environment. They concentrate mainly on K-12 curriculum, however it seems like it can be a great tool to share the...
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- Maciek Zielinski
Paul I agree that textbooks are way too expensive. As you may know, because of the way textbooks get adopted by some states, most of the kids in the country end up learning from books that were specifically designed to get approved in Texas and California. So how's this for an idea of how to give away your "lots of money": fund the development of a complete set of textbooks through an...
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- Peter
Flat World Knowledge: Check it out: Professors donate time to produce textbooks. Students get them for free. - http://www.flatworldknowledge.com
- scott willeke
Note the importance of audio to building literacy - http://literacybridge.org/talking...
- Ed Dodds
Consider also that if a person "open schools" all the way up through university material, there is no way to CLEP a degree. The US Department of Education should issue guidelines for the degrees where this makes sense.
- Ed Dodds
...i suspect that the textbook business is terrifically profitable for publishers, and that they'll fight any move to displace them tooth and nail.
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There's also http://ck12.org/ They make it easy for teachers to put together custom textbooks by reusing existing pieces of content (chapters and such).
- Meryn Stol
The South African "Free High School Text Book" project has a reasonable reputation: http://www.fhsst.org/. There are a lot of free non-textbook resources available through OERCommons (http://www.oercommons.org/)
- Nick Lothian
@Peter - curriki looks pretty interesting. Do you have any kind of harvesting facilities?
- Nick Lothian
@Nick. Yes. Curriki provides several ways to export materials from the site. Each of the 30,000 free and open source resources can be downloaded on to your computer, where they can be printed. You can also get the XML data for any resource. In both cases, you just have to mind the specifics of the Creative Commons license requirements. You can also embed a widget for any learning...
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- Peter
Here is a project that I have tried to contribute information to and one of my websites is actually listed there because at their request, it was easier for me to start a site of my own with the info I gave them, than for them to list all the book titles and links I provided them with. http://textbookrevolution.org
- April
Curriki is a knowledge exchange which is the 21st century textbook. EVERCHANGING, always adding, always collaborating. When I see this, I don't just see worksheets... I see customizable games- good easy to change content. I see LEARNING ACTIVITIES, best practices, I see collaboration, I see a whole curriculum FOR TEACHER INSTRUCTION- on learning how to use and implement different...
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- Sharnon Johnston-Robinett
Ditto on Flatworld, but @scott, profs are not donating their time for free -- basic web-version of text is made for free, with chapters, learning materials, etc. available for fee-based download -- don't have to use the fee-based material, but is very nice to see business model that offers a good hybrid between paper-only and web-only content. In my classes, students often print out material because they want to work on their computers and have something "hard" to refer to.
- Mickey Schafer
Check out my new blogs on Curriki, we address this issue and hope the community will make sure we are sustainable.
- Bobbi Kurshan
@miley_grandjean quote "'Ask not what your PLN can do for you, but what you can do for other people's PLNs.''
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A 5 Part Series from @tomwhitby on PLN... way cool! - http://www.educatorsroyaltreat...
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Stages of PLN adoption | The Thinking Stick - http://www.thethinkingstick.com/stages-...
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Bethany has asked us to rate ourselves according to the PLN adoption stages... #plnlab
- hollyrae
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Bethany asks: What PLN changes do you suppose happen in each of these stages
- hollyrae
As part of my PLN Lab Challenge 2 experience, I attended or watched an archive of a synchronous event each night this week. I'm excited to share comments and links in this thread.
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An artifact is my memes of the week thread http://ff.im/8In8a
- hollyrae
What is PLN Lab Challenge 2? Expand or contract your personal learning network. Experiment. Come Monday night and share... http://plnlab.pbworks.com/webinar...
- hollyrae
More to come..
- hollyrae
CCKO9 Session 1 - An introduction to a open course in a distributed learning environment - http://blip.tv/file/2649920
- hollyrae
TwitTV Tummeling Show http://supernovahub.com/2009... (looking for recording but haven't found yet)
- hollyrae
FFundercats Episode 49 http://friendfeed.com/ffunder...
- hollyrae
Social Media & Open Education http://eci831.wikispaces.com/09-15-0... Open & Networked Teaching - Introduction to the Experience
- hollyrae
CCK09 Session 2 http://blip.tv/file/2650193 Network Attributes
- hollyrae
Danah Boyd on Teenagers who are Living and Learning with Social Media http://www.youtube.com/watch... circa Ashton v CNN battle
- hollyrae
Our online lives slowly leak away - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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i have lost so many memories online: my first blog from 96-97 i built on aol homepages with all the pregnancy and baby pics of my first son. my second blog on journalspace - 6years of writing, photos, music and art i had created, friendships. countless amounts of thoughts, words, photos, and who know's what else posted on sites i can't even remember anymore. so i think about it a lot...
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- Jodi Church
Jodi: I have a fatalistic attitude toward it. I'll be dead someday and just won't care. But my kids will care about their own photos or memories the way I care about memories of my parents and such. It's interesting how in the 1980s I still have my college newspapers that I wrote but I didn't save any of my writings on AOL or Prodigy.
- Robert Scoble
be sure to backup all those digital photos, movies, soundbites, etc of the kids. save them on external harddrives. i carried mine with me from germany, because i want them for my kids as well. make hardcopies of the stuff you love the most and put them somewhere safe. i just don't think we can rely on websites still being around. especially knowing how everything is moving towards...
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- Jodi Church
Jodi: yup, I have to print out more photos of my kids. Good reminder to spend some money doing that.
- Robert Scoble
I've been really happy with the quality and pricing of bay photo out of santa cruz
- David Thomas
This is why I like SmugMug - I upload the RAW images via Amazon S3. My images are all visible via the SmugMug service, but will always have a hard copy on a hard drive elsewhere if SmugMug ever goes away. It would take both SmugMug and Amazon going away for me to lose those. Great article though - it's a major concern.
- Jesse Stay
This is a major issue, as I am sure you know, Robert. The digital world faces the same issues as, for example, the film world faces and at a much faster pace. The sectors who are among the most concerned about it include: museums, libraries and archives. I managed a project in that sector, for a short time last year, and this was a significant issue. One of the commonly used labels for...
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- John W Lewis
I am not too concerned about my own stuff - I have local versions of most that matters, i stay away from proprietary formats (learned the hard way 10 years ago, with valuable things lost in formats i cant access), and the rest is just let go - and frankly it was no different in the "real" world, most notes, conversations and a lot of the pictures did not make it to the next generation....
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- Iphigenie
surely your photos are not only on flickr and your children will have access to them from your own home systems should something happen to you - same for password and access information for anything really "valuable" (i.e. memories, photos) that wouldnt be covered by the normal legacy process (I am assuming here if your website / blog is also your business you have put things in place for these since they are assets)
- Iphigenie
there is nothing you can hold for very long
- Robert Higgins
Robert, I like how Eckhart Tolle tells the story of visiting to an old fort with his family and reading a sign there that simply stated "ALL STRUCTURES ARE UNSTABLE" his insight to that was that he found that signpost to indeed be a "Sacred Sutra". This it in part has inspired me to found my new company VitalLock. VitalLock takes a utility approach to the problem by providing an Adobe...
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- Bob Stewart
One of the interesting things is that we can't really future proof this because we don't know what technologies will be used in 10 years. So a thumb drive, a hard drive, any sort of hard copy we keep must also be updated and at some point isn't it the memories? If it's important we'll do something like actually print a picture, rudimentary I know. Maybe we'll go back to the scrapbook...
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- Sheryl
Isn't that what cloud storage should do for us? Then we wouldn't have to worry about the format. That would be up to the provider to guarantee. Is anyone doing this well yet? I've talked with several companies about this over the years, but nothing has succeeded that I know of.
- Leigh Marriner
Print? No way. In fact I paid a service, ScanCafe to digitize old prints before they completely fade away.http://www.zoliblog.com/2008...
- Zoli Erdos
...and what about all the corporate data, civic/government data, and medical data that's going to get lost in these cloud computing schemes, and all of the communications and digital artifacts you'll lose investing them into services like FaceBook, and, well, FriendFeed... just sayin'...
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You don't "invest" in those systems - you do things for here and now, because they bring you value here and now. They're not an investment for the future, never will be, especially any site that is free owes you and me nothing, and promises us nothing. (Note: I pay for email at a place where theT&Cs give me guarantees, for that kind of reason). PS: I started keeping quick copies of good...
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- Iphigenie
@Joelle: fair enough, and it sounds like you have a fairly organized and strategic approach to preserving digital artifacts that you find important. I'd argue that most people just dive in, uploading, sharing, interacting, only to get burned later, when they want to look back on something and can't find it. You have a great point about the free vs. paid service. I agree totally with you there. If it's truly important, you should pay. That's why I pay for my email too. :)
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Thinking about this problem is part of what prompted my own artistic solution to the problem, at least on FF. I make daily sketches based on what's Best of Day for myself and for my friends. Here's the group that I share the copies to: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... It was starting to bother me how ephemeral all of this is. I still would like a better way to preserve more of my FF writing. I have it piped through Twitter, to Twistory, to Google Calendar, but that's fragmented.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah... your FF drawings are teh awesome!
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Dust to dust ashes to ashes...we all leak away eventually. That's not a bad thing.
- Tom Foremski
Thanks, .LAG
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
What can dogs tell us about the real-time web? | FactoryCity - http://factoryjoe.com/blog...
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"Lest we be overcome with information, we crave resolution and action. The crisis of the real-time web is how we confront an unending stream of undifferentiated information that all seems equally important and immediate, paralyzing us. In these cases, failing our own intrinsic resources, we look to surrogates (parents or other authority figures — celebrities suffice) to help us discard irrelevant information and get to the good stuff. We look to their reassurance to help us make a decision. And this is why filters — natural, artificial, or social — will be so important in the real-time web."
- hollyrae
from Bookmarklet
Isn't it amazing how many similarities there are between nature and interwebs?
- hollyrae
Name a movie that took multiple viewings to appreciate.
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What didn't you get the first time through? - Friday's Plinky question: http://www.plinky.com/prompts...
- Kol Tregaskes
Primer - I watched it twice in a row, back-to-back - once without commentary, and once with - and I still didn't fully understand it... I could probably watch it 3-4 more times and find more things about it
- Nathan Chase
I've seen Primer only once, but I definitely need to watch it at least once more. Amazing movie.
- Brome
The Fifth Element. I flat-out hated it when I saw it at the cinema but now really enjoy it.
- Akiva
"Memento" but mostly because the plot progression is so weird.
- Kevin L
Mission Impossible is just about the only movie I've deliberately watched repeatedly. It took several viewings to figure the plot out. I get bored quickly and generally don't watch anything more than once.
- LANjackal
Bumping for later.
- Kol Tregaskes
Drowning By Numbers. There is a number in every scene, slowly counting up to 100 when the film ends. Took me a couple of goes to spot them all.
- Pete Gilbert
Kevin - Memento was one of those for me, too.
- Curdy G
Agree about Memento, it takes a few go's, well worth watching a over and over though. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
How can you forget about 'The Matrix'? I had to watch it over and over. I think it was maybe due to the fact I was 11 when the movie came out. I saw it 7 times to actually get what they were trying to convey.
- Faraz Mullick
The Matrix? Really? I mean, the basic idea of it was ripped off from half a dozen other better science fiction stories. The whole "this world is not real" concept is nowhere near new. Anyway, if you want one that takes a few viewings to fully get, go for Donnie Darko.
- Otto
I was a kid then. :$
- Faraz Mullick
The Wall. Apocalypse Now. Brazil. Bladerunner.
- Jason Wehmhoener
"Once Upon a Time in the West"
- Thomas Page
Fight Club
- İ. Emre Kutlu
Twelve Monkeys.
- Kol Tregaskes
Quantum of Solace, I thought it was about water *facepalm*
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
LOL, Jimminy. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Eyes Wide Shut - it wasn't until after multiple watchings that I could express a coherent opinion about it.
- Nakachi
re: Primer, repeated viewings will actually make you even more confused. Here, let me illustrate what I mean with a spoiler: http://www.freeweb.hu/neuwans...
- Goran Zec
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My 30,000th Photograph on Flickr - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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My 30,000th Photograph on Flickr The photo above represents my 30,000th photograph published to Flickr. It’s a milestone and part of my continuing goal to publish 1,000,000 photos to Flickr before I die. This photograph is from one of my favorite shoots. A shoot I did with my wife and children a ways back in this storm drain in Big Tujunga Canyon.
- Thomas Hawk
@thomasHawk didn't you say you wouldn't use flickr after they were gits once long ago?
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
Congratulations, Thomas! By the way, that shot would be perfect in my Vanishing Points group... I'll add an invite to it on Flickr.
- Kevin Trotman
Hasan, I did stop using Flickr for a while over some some censorship issues a while back. As you know I feel pretty strongly about censorship. I changed my mind though and couldn't really stay away.
- Thomas Hawk
"My 30,000th Photograph on Flickr" way to go @thomasHawk. I remember reading yr 10^6 & thinking thats ambitious. Now the Q. In the back of my mind I've been thinking about "how do you a) backup online against flickr takedowns? b) manage & curate the images as times goes on: cost, time etc?
- Peter Renshaw
Well mostly I back up my photos by using drobos as primary storage. I also keep another copy of my finished photos on hard drives off location. I upload pretty much the same photos to Flickr and Zooomr. So I've got two copies. Additionally, almost all of my flickr photos are fed into clustershot where they can be marketed for stock photography. I always upload original sized photographs...
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- Thomas Hawk
Veery nice one Thomas. Good job. :)
- BraGiu
Congratulations, Thomas! 970K to go!
- Alexander Arsky
Cool! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Congratulations, nice one!
- ilya
Congratulations. Doesn't seem like that long since 20000.
- James Myatt
Congrats Thomas!
- Simon Wicks
Great shot!!!
- Prakash
30,000, wow! Made me look. I'm only just past 20,000. Had no idea where I was. Need to pay attention to those landmarks. This is a wonderful shot, but then so many of yours are. You live to witness and share beauty.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Awesome!
- David Cook
from fftogo
Congratulations, and a beautiful picture. Thanks again for sharing
- Rob Kramer
That's a great photo, good work.
- Patrick
good stuff
- imran
500 a week! I feel slug-like. I'm so glad you do what you do with your talent at photography. Thank you for your inspiration and dedication to your craft, 4 children and spouse and a full time career aside. Very thought provoking and challenging. Congratulations on your milestone.
- Matt Penning
Congrats on reaching 30,000! Your artwork is always interesting.
- John (bird whisperer)
congrats Thomas! I always look at flickr each day to see what you have uploaded :)
- Heather
Congrats!!
- Arijit Das
hollyrae to hollyrae's feed, Connect! Your PLN Lab, FriendFeed Talk, mytweeps, Phillip Johnson, Laura (hear me raura?)
Good morning, FFers! Join us now for a FFiesta (a Friday Friendfeed party). Yes... I'm trying to share the beauty of the real time convo with my tweeps.
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present and accounted for!
- tektrekker
And how's the Huntsville treating you this morning, B?
- hollyrae
Also, present Ms. Holly Rae - Hola tektrekker
- Cynthia
pleasant yet cloudy day, back to back meetings and such. Same-o, same-o
- tektrekker
Hey hey Cyn!
- hollyrae
Good morning!
- AJ Batac :)
hi Cyn
- tektrekker
Hey AJ, any recommendations for getting the most out of FF?
- hollyrae
real-time updates seem quite slow... almost hardly any changes from my perspective
- tektrekker
In one aspect it's a critical mass issue, we have to get more ppl :)
- hollyrae
makes sense.
- tektrekker
A few things I like to do in FF - first, who are you following? FF is similar to Twitter, who you follow greatly impacts your experience - I recommend one of the FFundercats, for example Josh Haley http://friendfeed.com/joshhal...
- hollyrae
If you are interested in following a FF developer, you can follow Bret - http://friendfeed.com/bret
- hollyrae
FFundercats title always makes me smile
- tektrekker
Friend of a Friend is the secret sauce.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Well that and the fact that you can participate via web/desktop/email/im
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, your quote is amazing. Thanks!
- hollyrae
And the permalinked semantic URLs for each thread :P
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel - FOF? can you explain please? TY
- tektrekker
Daniel, permalinked semantic URLs - do you mean the date/time stamp at the end of the post, the one that allows for going to the individual thread?
- hollyrae
I do love the permalink!
- tektrekker
present, not sure I'm accounted for ;)
- Julia
Lurking
- Laura (hear me raura?)
@Holly - yes, the fact that every little post gets its own unique URL which is easily indexed by search engines for relevance. Don't discount the fact that having actual descriptine words in the URL is a huge win over the traditional defaults of gibberish.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Julia! You're here! Yay ya ya.
- hollyrae
@Tektrekker - Friend of a Friend on FF allows you to discover interesting content by using your friends as a filtering network. It's like a low-effort version of the retweet. Anything you see on your home feed that says (Holly Rae liked this) is brought to you via FoaF magic.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Trying to decipher much of the portmanteau and acronyms at this point.
- Laura (hear me raura?)
HI JULZ!!
- tektrekker
HI LAURA
- tektrekker
Did someone say Huntsville? I am from AL and I have family in HSV.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Hello. Good morning BB.
- Laura (hear me raura?)
My hita came to say hi :)
- Julia
Tektrekker (me as in Bethany) is living in Huntsville. Where are you Daniel?
- tektrekker
bowing out of our FF Fiesta now... 'nother meeting to attend. <sigh> it was fun all. Thanks! I'll check back later to see more conversation
- tektrekker
Thanks, Tektrekker, you're amazing of course! We'll miss you.
- hollyrae
Now that the peak of the FFiesta has hit, where do you go for more InFFormation? DM me, Tweet me, Yammer me, or come next FFriday!
- hollyrae
A funny thing happened just now. One son called his brother this morning - no answer. Then got on Facebook and brother was online also. Son IM's and says, "Answer your phone!" Brother says, "Why - we are connected now!!!"
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Did I tell you the story about my son and how he met his his siblings?
- Julia
No you have not! By the way - son just left to his brother's house for breakfast!! : )
- Cynthia
Funny! This is like me with a phone in one hand, computer in front of me, laptop next to the desktop, Itouch in the other hand, and talking to the same person!
- Sandra Johnson
i have been know to be on skype, in adobe connect, in a google doc, and on phone simultaneously with same person - and get confused over which channel to communicate what info. LOL.
- tektrekker
Well! Jon's 14-year-old brother from the Carolinas, who Jon has never met or even knew his name contacted him in MySpace about a month ago. From that, Jon also virtually met his 17-year-old brother and his 27-year-old sister from Florida. They plan to get together for one of the upcoming holidays.
- Julia
I am learning that my PLN is BIG! RETA, ISTE, IDEALNM, and on and on! I didn't even know that I had a PLN until I visited http://plnlab.pbworks.com/
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we love our PLNs
- tektrekker
Awww... Sandy!
- hollyrae
4 Websites With LOTS Of Completely Free Ebooks That Don’t Suck - http://www.makeuseof.com/tag...
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If you’re a fervent reader and nerd like I am, you’ve probably encountered quite a lot of writing online. However, most of them are either absolute garbage or entirely illegal. It’s hard to find good, legal reads online – unless you know where to look. There are several sites that offer classic out-of-copyright writing, or publishes new e-books online as promotions. If you know where to look, you can feast on these completely free Ebooks for all the time you’ve got, and today is the day we’ll show you where to look.
- Brad Williamson
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