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My blog post about finding out my paper was being used without permission by Course Hero - http://technologyadventures.blogspot.com/2009...

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Orient your students to Creative Commons * How can you find media (images, music, etc) there? * What does each license mean? * How can I attribute something I find on Creative Commons? (actually very easy, newer licenses even have an embed code) Support your students in licensing their own work through Creative Commons * Don't ask for a copy to share with your other students - instead... more... - Holly Rae, FFer

99 hits on my blog today... that never happens. I mean that quite literally. I'm glad people are reading this. - Holly Rae, FFer

Interesting to see how this company is gathering materials/products. Most of the people I know consider this place a paper mill, even though it pretends to advertise itself as something else. - Katy S

Katy, so in your experience, Course Hero is seen as a paper mill? Do students mention it? - Holly Rae, FFer

Students never mention paper mills. However, pretty much everyone I know who teaches composition who knows about this place sees it as a paper mill. When it first started up, it actually sent out info about its "services" to all students at my university (somehow they got the list address), including all of the grad students who teach the writing courses. Everybody talked about it as another paper mill. - Katy S

Many paper mills are more blatant, but they all claim that the papers are there as examples for students. - Katy S

Wow. What's discouraging to me is that it could look like my classmates and I shared our work with the intention of it being used in a paper mill. In reality we never shared it outside of class. - Holly Rae, FFer

Some faculty have remarked that students must be sharing... how else could it get there? In this case it was because the faculty member hosted it on a public website. A bit naive about the way the web really works. - Holly Rae, FFer

Well, in the old days (when people sent away for these things via mail) that would be more likely, but now people should know that these papers can be gathered by all sorts of means. I've heard of students finding out their paper is at one of these places, most likely sent from another student who had access to the file. Students are notoriously careless on the public computers (they're always leaving files open), so this doesn't surprise me. - Katy S

Were there any comments or a grade attached along with identifying information? If so, that faculty member committed a FERPA violation. Federal laws are not to be trifled with. - Katy S

Nope. No grades. She asked if she could share it with her future students - she emphasized only her students. She knew it was sensitive. It was four years ago and she just didn't realize what putting something on the web server at our school would do. She actually taught me a lot. It's ironic. - Holly Rae, FFer

Just because the paper was out there (however) doesn't give Course Hero the right to charge money for access to it... right? If a bike is laying on the street and you don't know who it is and you just take off with it... that's still stealing? I think.. :) LOL - Holly Rae, FFer

I read your post - you'd think that considering the subject of the study - minors - she'd be more careful. I just can't imagine doing that. It's one thing to share a copy in class and quite another to post it online. How absolutely clueless. - Katy S

I agree. These are the people preparing our future teachers. - Holly Rae, FFer

Something I've heard a lot about is Turn it In. Is that helping the plaigerism issue or creating other problems? - Holly Rae, FFer

I haven't read through Coursehero's terms, but they shouldn't be able to profit from your work. You don't have to register for copyright - you already have it. I'd be interested to see how they are doing this legally. - Katy S

I used WebCT in a previous job. It's very disturbing that this content has ended up not only public, but charged for. I hope you get some redress. - WorldofHiglet

Yes, I will file a copyright infringement. For sure. I am actually going through my legal resources as a student (was full time time, part time now). - Holly Rae, FFer

Thanks, WoH. It will be done. Just have to get the word out - I was surprised how many folks said 'wow, my paper is up there too!" - Holly Rae, FFer

Katy, in a statement to Inside Higher Ed they talk about how they are basically immune because it is a peer to peer system and each member is responsible for the things they post (a la YouTube). - Holly Rae, FFer

Here's the thing... and I refuse to get an account and log in... but it looks like exactly what the instructors had on the web. It appears to have been mined. I don't know how you prove that... but it does not look user generated or submitted to me. - Holly Rae, FFer

I just looked at their terms. Supposedly, if the copyright holder tells them to take it down, they will: http://www.coursehero.com/about... I'm curious to see what they do for your case. I'm willing to bet that this legally protects them from lawsuits (But I'm not a lawyer). Sneaky. - Katy S

It will be interesting to see how they respond to my request. Recent mentions in the blogosphere make me think the copyright page is relatively new (older mentions say, "and not even a copyright violation link" or something like that). Will keep you posted. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge with me! - Holly Rae, FFer

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My 23 year-old sister signs up for Twitter, cancels. "Saw no point in the account."

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So someone in *your* family doesn't grok Twitter either. My brother says he'll never even set up a Twitter account at all; he sees no point either. Apparently these people see the words "What are you doing?" above the text box and think it's nothing but the Facebook status update without Facebook. Some people just don't get it at all... - Dennis Jernberg

In *my* family (asterisks per Dennis), most of them use Facebook. Nobody else uses Twitter at all. - Louis Gray

Sure enough, Facebook is exactly what everybody in my family but me uses, too! Well, I'm on Facebook too, but I don't use it like they do. For one thing, I don't play any of the games; I hide them instead. And none of them has even heard of FriendFeed... - Dennis Jernberg

hahaha that is epic!! Twittter got dissed by Ms Gray :D - Susan Beebe

My family is the same. Twitter is pointless to them. There's so much more than just status updates to them. - Jesse Stay

Well, I don't get Twitter either. Anyone want to explain it to me? - Cristo

It's not fun when you sign up and have no friends / people to interact with...and all the interesting people only talk to each other. All my friends didn't "see a point" until they built their own network(s). Just sayin' - Mona Nomura

My wife is also that way, btw - I may *just* be able to get her to join FourSquare though. - Jesse Stay

Social media circle jerk. - Cristo

As if Twitter is some brilliant thing that only a certain so-called tech crowd gets. - Cristo

My sister has known that I've used Twitter for several years now. Whenever I brought it up, that was her reaction, "Don't get it. Don't see the point." She created an account a month or so ago and she's totally into it now. When I asked her what made the difference, she shrugged and said she wasn't sure. "Your friends started using it, didn't they?" I asked her. "Yes." heh. :D - pea ♥ fierce as a woozle

Why don't you guys go have this conversation on Twitter? :) - Cristo

Pfff. Cristo, you know full well twitter can't deal with the c word. :) - Micah Wittman

I will make the bold prediction that most of my brothers and sisters will never join or use Twitter. I have one brother that does, occasionally, but the rest will never, ever use it. There's no point when they can get the same thing from Facebook and more. - Jesse Stay

Mona - nailed it! :) - Susan Beebe

Re Mona: I myself didn't even bother to sign up for Twitter till this last June, when I discovered an existing online songwriting community I belong to had a Twitter presence. That's when I set up my account and started to use Twitter. Then I found that some of the NaNoWriMo offshoots I take part in also had a Twitter presence. That was the beginning. Since then I've built up a much... more... - Dennis Jernberg

my girlfriend has no interest in it either. she uses facebook for all her net communication needs and is quite happy... - Terry O'Fee

I got all my friends to sign up for Twitter, all found it pointless. So, I really don't get the point either. I'll delete mine too. :D - Faraz Mullick

This is why I am on most social networks. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Only a few of my real-life friends are even on Facebook, and the ones that are rarely update. The social web can be pretty disappointing sometimes. - Michael Slattery from iPhone

Most everyone I know is on Facebook now, with a few exceptions that refuse to use much of anything on the internet except for youtube and blogs. Nobody gets the point of twitter, especially with facebook/friendfeed offering the same type of communication options, if not more. However, the nice thing about twitter/friendfeed is that it's searchable. The other day I was watching the events from Fort Hood unfold on twitter. I couldn't do that easily on facebook. That's where twitter shines. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ

My Second Life avatar started on Twitter in the good old days, when everyone you followed followed you back. But my real life account has about 20 followers, so it only really works as a reader - and that rocks. - Michael Slattery from iPhone

second life.. i read books like snow crash, get excited and find SL nothing like it ;) - Terry O'Fee

If new users have no followers and fail to get the reader part, of course they stop. And the statistics confirm that. - Michael Slattery from iPhone

I do agree. It is really difficult to convince someone to use twitter. And even if I do, they don't stay active on the service. They too state "I don't see any point in the service". Often are the times when they are convincing me it is nothing but a blog platform with 140 characters limit. - Amit

I've learned that it's not a good idea to try to convince friends to join Twitter. Unless they get it, they will simply annoy you with Facebook style Tweets. Better to seek out Twitter users who have learned the knack of posting interesting Tweets. - Jimmy Walker

If she doesn't get it, or anyone else for that matter, be glad they're on their way. Twitter never worked for me either and I'm happily not participating as well. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

I just realized I've been forgetting to tell them to start by following interesting people and not even think about posting their own tweets for the first little while (Robert's advice) - I wonder if that would make more of a difference. - MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF from iPhone

My 25 year old brother said the same thing. - Rochelle

My family is a Facebook family as well. - Trish R

+Mona I think there is a follower critical mass that needs to be achieved (of real interacting/interesting people) before anyone 'gets' Twitter - JSNFLMNG from iPod

She's ahead of the curve. Take note. - EBrewer

I see Twitter as another information portal, and a social channel (albeit limited). For those things it's great. I don't use facebook all that much, but it's good to chat with old friends to say howdy and share current happenings. I'm me no matter what social hub I'm on, but the local laws/rules/community etiquette fits my preferences better in some virtual hangouts. - Mark Essel from iPhone

My daughter of about the same age also got and shortly thereafter canceled a twitter account. - SuezanneC Baskerville

Twitter is useful as a minimalist news broadcasting system. Twitter is worse than useless as a medium for conversation. I mostly use Twitter in combination with Topsy searches to pluck off the most interesting news stories of the day on selected topics. Without Topsy, I would stop using Twitter entirely because of the information overload. - Sean McBride

Mona's point is pretty much spot on. I kind of "imported" a Revision 3 forum network into Twitter, which led to FriendFeed, which had sort of a recursive bend back into Twitter, which led to finding Twitter recommendations, which then opened me up to following people from IRL, and then...ah crap. I've stopped using Twitter as much, though, because Facebook is where the people I CARE about really are. And in case you're wondering, I'm friends with Mona on Facebook ;) - Mike Nayyar

I've hit a wall trying to get my friends to sign up for Twitter. It's like they've got an image issue. Whenever I try to explain it's value for news and as RSS replacement, people sort of stop listening. They're left thinking it's Facebook without the "fun stuff," which is lesser and redundant for them. - Jeremiah Green

Is it fair to say that the tweets related to tech news that some folks think are so wonderful and important are primarily links to web sites, blogs, new articles, and so on produced by someone other than the tweeter? So far as I've seen, subscribing to, say, all the employees of a company doesn't produce much news about the company; instead you see posts about where the employees ate lunch and stuff like that. Of course I may just not be looking at the right people. - SuezanneC Baskerville

Unless you have a defined business strategy, there really is not much point to Twitter, unless you just want to connect for fun, which is under my business strategy :) - Steve Borgman

Actually I don't see the point either, but I'm still here :) - scott willeke

I keep a Twitter account just for a case of emergency, because it gets translated everywhere, and their mobile client is the lightest. - 9000

Young people don't get Twitter so much. - Hutch Carpenter

I am old Hutch and I don't get it - VAL D.

I have all three FB, FF and Twitter - FB is for people I know personally save very few exceptions, FF & Twiiter overlap and are people I tend to follow but I dont know from adam - I prefer FF tho . I now have GW as of last night but am still struggling to get the hang of it- will lose my twitter acct I think - viki saigal

SuezanneC has summed twitter up quite well. None of my family use twitter, took me ages to 'get it' but although my family all use Facebook, I don't like it. I stay to keep in touch with them. - Sandra Large

It is very hard to keep motivated with all the bots, spam, ads, slaves and etc. Don't feel bad if you make mistakes because this is a new thing that is evolving underneath the feet of everyone on it. Like a quick sand that none of my family understand and I'm finding month to month that the growth of twitter it is getting more chaotic and the numbers of fake profiles is increasing, but... more... - Christopher Scott Ostini

worry if they ever get it ;) - Christopher Scott Ostini

Robert Scoble

Neat thing is this whole film was filmed on Kodak Zi8 and a FlipCam: $200 cameras! http://eguiders.com/exclusi...

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I gotta get a Kodak Zi8 - that's amazing!~ - Susan Beebe

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Oh, good to just see this since I just asked about cameras :) - joey

I love these guys. They do amazing work with low-cost tools. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Damn impressive - Mo Kargas

I love my Kodak Zi8. - William McCamment

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I love Kisha. - Derrick

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Major love. Nail meme? I'm so tempted. - Holly Rae, FFer

Those are sweet. Nail meme would be cool, but my hands are so cut up and raggedy that I don't want to scare anyone. It would be cool to see other people's though. - Ginger Makela Riker

I started taking a picture and PhotoBooth crashed my everything :( Let's do it sometime, though, Ginger! - Holly Rae, FFer

Interesting. How many days did you do this for? Once a day? #crazyisgood - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML

Aww, Derrick, you know that feeling is mutual. - Kisha, Well Conditioned from BuddyFeed

Thanks, everyone! I can get behind a nail meme, definitely. SML, I took these over a week. I like to change every couple of days and there's a nail board I hang out at that loves swatches. Colors differ on every skintone and out of the bottle. - Kisha, Well Conditioned from BuddyFeed

@Kisha Every couple of day is insane. Feel free to post to http://flickr.com/groups... pool :) As noted here: http://wiki.seeminglee.com/crazy-i... :) - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML

Meh. I'll decline, thanks. And seeing as it takes a total of ten minutes out of my day we'll have to agree to disagree about whether it's crazy. - Kisha, Well Conditioned from BuddyFeed

@Kisha Just so you know I don't mean crazy in a bad way.. :) - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML

Oh, I got that, SML. No worries. I followed the links. - Kisha, Well Conditioned from BuddyFeed

Chad S

I just remembered that @andrewkfromaz left @sweetrepublic ice cream in my freezer....the anticipation is killing me

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Interesting identity discussion going on live now on @stevegillmor's gang: http://friendfeed.com/realtim... join in!

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Don't believe your lying eyes (TED Talk) - http://www.cnn.com/2009...

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"Put another way, only by accepting my own humanity can I accept the humanity of others. "Seeing myself see" creates the opportunity for this acceptance. Illusions, then, were not the point of my talk, but simply a tool for encouraging this process. Resolving uncertainty is essential to our survival. Hence our fear of ambiguous situations is palpable -- e.g., the inability to resolve sensory conflict between the eyes and ears can result in nausea (like seasickness). And yet it is only by embracing the unknown within education, science, art and most importantly within our own private lives that we will find new routes to more enlightened ways of seeing and being. Thus, courage not confidence is at the heart of this process of actively redefining normality, which is the route to compassion and creativity." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet

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Have you read Dan Margulis "Professional Photoshop"? It is all about that. - Matter of Attitude

The quote is a little unclear, but parts of of it seem apropos to the latest big English-language discussion here on FF. - Kamilah Gill

huh? - Daisy

Robert Scoble

DJThistle: RT @justyn: Inspired by an issue @scobleizer raised last week: The rise of the List, the fall of personal space http://post.ly/BAJB - http://twitter.com/DJThist...

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Mona: YOU GUYS. The creator of Comic Sans is on Twitter. Didn't even know there was a (one) creator. Wow. ht: @brampitoyo - http://twitter.com/Mona...

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Comic Sans is a perfectly good font. So is Helvetica. - SuezanneC Baskerville

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Nearly 200 Twitter applications that are useful for teaching & learning: http://www.c4lpt.co.uk/socialm... rt @Twitter_Tips

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jdlasica: How to get the RSS feed of a Twitter list: http://twiterlist2rss.appspot.com (via @stevegillmor) - http://twitter.com/jdlasic...

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lgshareditems: What Does Twitter Lists Reveal About You? http://j.mp/41vPlu - http://twitter.com/lgshare...

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R.I.P. Deleted Tweets - http://bub.blicio.us/r-i-p-d...

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From @briansolis... I feel like this would really change the rules in terms of transparency - Holly Rae, FFer from Bookmarklet

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I just wish I could "un-favorite" a few tweets that have been stuck in my list for months. - Shea

Where are they stuck? On search results? - Holly Rae, FFer

When I go into my favorites list on the twitter homepage, and try to unfavorite them, all I get is the blinking icon. I've tried to unfavorite them using a variety of twitter clients. Nothing seems to work. Frustrating. - Shea

Wow, I had no idea that was happening. - Holly Rae, FFer

I tried and I'm not having that same problem. I did a quick search and didn't notice mentions. :( - Holly Rae, FFer

It is bizarre. There are four favorited tweets specifically - all from May and June. When I click on the time-stamp, it will show the tweet, but I'm also unable to unfavorite it from that screen. No response from Help Desk yet. - Shea from iPhone

Strange. You must really want to unfavorite those tweets. :) - Holly Rae, FFer

Thankfully, it's nothing embarassing! Just tired of looking at them. Favoriting is my lazy way of collecting, tagging and sorting. - Shea from iPhone

Right on. - Holly Rae, FFer

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GO2WEB20 Blog: 11 Wave Tools You May Not Know Exist - http://blog.go2web20.net/2009...

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Finally achieved FF window optimization by shrinking text... Can take in FF and work the email simultaneously w/o scrolling. In my humble world, this is a dramatic achievement. LOL.

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Today is Wonder Woman Day? Rock on! \m/ - Jason Huebel

Every day is Wonder Woman Day at my house! - Spidra Webster

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Text books seem generally expensive and insipid (http://friendfeed.com/paul...). Are there any promising open-source textbook projects? (high quality content and likely to see actual use)

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http://twitter.com/bookmaid - RIT Rochester Institute of Technology has their own text book exchange on Twitter :) - Susan Beebe

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Obama's chief technology dude (can't remember his name) headed a project like this before taking the cabinet position. The folks at Buzz Out Loud (@acedtect @Mollywood @raygun01) would know about this as he recorded a message for their 1000th episode last week and we were reminded of the program (somewhere on the east coast). - Kevin Arth

paul - Literacybridge.org is a great non-profit focusing on this issue. there are numerous issues here in terms of language localization, cost of print and transport of books, ability to have access to and understand content, etc. many textbook programs also assume one basic fact that is not necessarily true - literacy. although i am a fan of building schools and education, the reality... more... - Joyce

IMO, most textbooks betray a massive bias of quantity over quality, in part because quantity is confused with depth. If professors were doing their jobs (some are of course), they'd concentrate on distilling out the key points rather than partake of the laziness/spoils of the rigged textbook market... most textbooks are the equivalent of a public works program. - Alex Schleber

I am planning on using an open-source book for the intro programming class I am teaching next fall at Colorado University - http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpy... - Robert Felty

Doesn't the Wikimedia Foundation have a project for open source textbooks? EDIT: Why yes, yes they do, although YMMV. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki... - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

I agree with Alex. Sometimes a good curriculum or at least a lesson plan is more important than a textbook. That's why I think a great project is Curriki.org. It is an online community, where educational resources can be created, shared and re-used in an open license environment. They concentrate mainly on K-12 curriculum, however it seems like it can be a great tool to share the... more... - Maciek Zielinski

Paul I agree that textbooks are way too expensive. As you may know, because of the way textbooks get adopted by some states, most of the kids in the country end up learning from books that were specifically designed to get approved in Texas and California. So how's this for an idea of how to give away your "lots of money": fund the development of a complete set of textbooks through an... more... - Peter

Flat World Knowledge: Check it out: Professors donate time to produce textbooks. Students get them for free. - http://www.flatworldknowledge.com - scott willeke

Note the importance of audio to building literacy - http://literacybridge.org/talking... - Ed Dodds

Consider also that if a person "open schools" all the way up through university material, there is no way to CLEP a degree. The US Department of Education should issue guidelines for the degrees where this makes sense. - Ed Dodds

...i suspect that the textbook business is terrifically profitable for publishers, and that they'll fight any move to displace them tooth and nail. - .LAG liked that

There's also http://ck12.org/ They make it easy for teachers to put together custom textbooks by reusing existing pieces of content (chapters and such). - Meryn Stol

The South African "Free High School Text Book" project has a reasonable reputation: http://www.fhsst.org/. There are a lot of free non-textbook resources available through OERCommons (http://www.oercommons.org/) - Nick Lothian

@Peter - curriki looks pretty interesting. Do you have any kind of harvesting facilities? - Nick Lothian

@Nick. Yes. Curriki provides several ways to export materials from the site. Each of the 30,000 free and open source resources can be downloaded on to your computer, where they can be printed. You can also get the XML data for any resource. In both cases, you just have to mind the specifics of the Creative Commons license requirements. You can also embed a widget for any learning... more... - Peter

Here is a project that I have tried to contribute information to and one of my websites is actually listed there because at their request, it was easier for me to start a site of my own with the info I gave them, than for them to list all the book titles and links I provided them with. http://textbookrevolution.org - April Russo (app103)

Curriki is a knowledge exchange which is the 21st century textbook. EVERCHANGING, always adding, always collaborating. When I see this, I don't just see worksheets... I see customizable games- good easy to change content. I see LEARNING ACTIVITIES, best practices, I see collaboration, I see a whole curriculum FOR TEACHER INSTRUCTION- on learning how to use and implement different... more... - Sharnon Johnston-Robinett

Ditto on Flatworld, but @scott, profs are not donating their time for free -- basic web-version of text is made for free, with chapters, learning materials, etc. available for fee-based download -- don't have to use the fee-based material, but is very nice to see business model that offers a good hybrid between paper-only and web-only content. In my classes, students often print out material because they want to work on their computers and have something "hard" to refer to. - Mickey Schafer

Check out my new blogs on Curriki, we address this issue and hope the community will make sure we are sustainable. - Bobbi Kurshan

http://www.cnx.org and http://ocw.mit.edu - Joe.... from iPod

Connect! Your PLN Lab: Holly Rae, FFer

Yes, we have mad scientist lab sounds #plnlab

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I wish they had more emotive options besides "like" such as "love love" :) - Julia

Me too! Plurk has those kind of engagement features if I remember correctly. For FF I would also like 'read this' or 'viewed this' kind of thing... - Holly Rae, FFer

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@miley_grandjean quote "'Ask not what your PLN can do for you, but what you can do for other people's PLNs.''

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A 5 Part Series from @tomwhitby on PLN... way cool! - http://www.educatorsroyaltreat...

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Stages of PLN adoption | The Thinking Stick - http://www.thethinkingstick.com/stages-...

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Bethany has asked us to rate ourselves according to the PLN adoption stages... #plnlab - Holly Rae, FFer from Bookmarklet

Bethany asks: What PLN changes do you suppose happen in each of these stages - Holly Rae, FFer

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As part of my PLN Lab Challenge 2 experience, I attended or watched an archive of a synchronous event each night this week. I'm excited to share comments and links in this thread.

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An artifact is my memes of the week thread http://ff.im/8In8a - Holly Rae, FFer

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What is PLN Lab Challenge 2? Expand or contract your personal learning network. Experiment. Come Monday night and share... http://plnlab.pbworks.com/webinar... - Holly Rae, FFer

More to come.. - Holly Rae, FFer

CCKO9 Session 1 - An introduction to a open course in a distributed learning environment - http://blip.tv/file/2649920 - Holly Rae, FFer

TwitTV Tummeling Show http://supernovahub.com/2009... (looking for recording but haven't found yet) - Holly Rae, FFer

FFundercats Episode 49 http://friendfeed.com/ffunder... - Holly Rae, FFer

Social Media & Open Education http://eci831.wikispaces.com/09-15-0... Open & Networked Teaching - Introduction to the Experience - Holly Rae, FFer

CCK09 Session 2 http://blip.tv/file/2650193 Network Attributes - Holly Rae, FFer

Danah Boyd on Teenagers who are Living and Learning with Social Media http://www.youtube.com/watch... circa Ashton v CNN battle - Holly Rae, FFer

Robert Scoble

Our online lives slowly leak away - http://scobleizer.com/2009...

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i have lost so many memories online: my first blog from 96-97 i built on aol homepages with all the pregnancy and baby pics of my first son. my second blog on journalspace - 6years of writing, photos, music and art i had created, friendships. countless amounts of thoughts, words, photos, and who know's what else posted on sites i can't even remember anymore. so i think about it a lot... more... - Jodi Church

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Jodi: I have a fatalistic attitude toward it. I'll be dead someday and just won't care. But my kids will care about their own photos or memories the way I care about memories of my parents and such. It's interesting how in the 1980s I still have my college newspapers that I wrote but I didn't save any of my writings on AOL or Prodigy. - Robert Scoble

be sure to backup all those digital photos, movies, soundbites, etc of the kids. save them on external harddrives. i carried mine with me from germany, because i want them for my kids as well. make hardcopies of the stuff you love the most and put them somewhere safe. i just don't think we can rely on websites still being around. especially knowing how everything is moving towards... more... - Jodi Church

Jodi: yup, I have to print out more photos of my kids. Good reminder to spend some money doing that. - Robert Scoble

I've been really happy with the quality and pricing of bay photo out of santa cruz - David Thomas

This is why I like SmugMug - I upload the RAW images via Amazon S3. My images are all visible via the SmugMug service, but will always have a hard copy on a hard drive elsewhere if SmugMug ever goes away. It would take both SmugMug and Amazon going away for me to lose those. Great article though - it's a major concern. - Jesse Stay

This is a major issue, as I am sure you know, Robert. The digital world faces the same issues as, for example, the film world faces and at a much faster pace. The sectors who are among the most concerned about it include: museums, libraries and archives. I managed a project in that sector, for a short time last year, and this was a significant issue. One of the commonly used labels for... more... - John W Lewis

I am not too concerned about my own stuff - I have local versions of most that matters, i stay away from proprietary formats (learned the hard way 10 years ago, with valuable things lost in formats i cant access), and the rest is just let go - and frankly it was no different in the "real" world, most notes, conversations and a lot of the pictures did not make it to the next generation.... more... - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

surely your photos are not only on flickr and your children will have access to them from your own home systems should something happen to you - same for password and access information for anything really "valuable" (i.e. memories, photos) that wouldnt be covered by the normal legacy process (I am assuming here if your website / blog is also your business you have put things in place for these since they are assets) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

there is nothing you can hold for very long - Robert Higgins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Marlin Forbes

Robert, I like how Eckhart Tolle tells the story of visiting to an old fort with his family and reading a sign there that simply stated "ALL STRUCTURES ARE UNSTABLE" his insight to that was that he found that signpost to indeed be a "Sacred Sutra". This it in part has inspired me to found my new company VitalLock. VitalLock takes a utility approach to the problem by providing an Adobe... more... - Bob Stewart

One of the interesting things is that we can't really future proof this because we don't know what technologies will be used in 10 years. So a thumb drive, a hard drive, any sort of hard copy we keep must also be updated and at some point isn't it the memories? If it's important we'll do something like actually print a picture, rudimentary I know. Maybe we'll go back to the scrapbook... more... - Sheryl

Isn't that what cloud storage should do for us? Then we wouldn't have to worry about the format. That would be up to the provider to guarantee. Is anyone doing this well yet? I've talked with several companies about this over the years, but nothing has succeeded that I know of. - Leigh Marriner

Print? No way. In fact I paid a service, ScanCafe to digitize old prints before they completely fade away.http://www.zoliblog.com/2008... - Zoli Erdos

http://www.longnow.org/ - Todd Hoff

...and what about all the corporate data, civic/government data, and medical data that's going to get lost in these cloud computing schemes, and all of the communications and digital artifacts you'll lose investing them into services like FaceBook, and, well, FriendFeed... just sayin'... - .LAG liked that

You don't "invest" in those systems - you do things for here and now, because they bring you value here and now. They're not an investment for the future, never will be, especially any site that is free owes you and me nothing, and promises us nothing. (Note: I pay for email at a place where theT&Cs give me guarantees, for that kind of reason). PS: I started keeping quick copies of good... more... - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

@Joelle: fair enough, and it sounds like you have a fairly organized and strategic approach to preserving digital artifacts that you find important. I'd argue that most people just dive in, uploading, sharing, interacting, only to get burned later, when they want to look back on something and can't find it. You have a great point about the free vs. paid service. I agree totally with you there. If it's truly important, you should pay. That's why I pay for my email too. :) - .LAG liked that

Thinking about this problem is part of what prompted my own artistic solution to the problem, at least on FF. I make daily sketches based on what's Best of Day for myself and for my friends. Here's the group that I share the copies to: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... It was starting to bother me how ephemeral all of this is. I still would like a better way to preserve more of my FF writing. I have it piped through Twitter, to Twistory, to Google Calendar, but that's fragmented. - Kamilah Gill

Kamilah... your FF drawings are teh awesome! - .LAG liked that

Dust to dust ashes to ashes...we all leak away eventually. That's not a bad thing. - Tom Foremski

Thanks, .LAG - Kamilah Gill

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"Lest we be overcome with information, we crave resolution and action. The crisis of the real-time web is how we confront an unending stream of undifferentiated information that all seems equally important and immediate, paralyzing us. In these cases, failing our own intrinsic resources, we look to surrogates (parents or other authority figures — celebrities suffice) to help us discard irrelevant information and get to the good stuff. We look to their reassurance to help us make a decision. And this is why filters — natural, artificial, or social — will be so important in the real-time web." - Holly Rae, FFer from Bookmarklet

Isn't it amazing how many similarities there are between nature and interwebs? - Holly Rae, FFer

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Name a movie that took multiple viewings to appreciate.

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What didn't you get the first time through? - Friday's Plinky question: http://www.plinky.com/prompts... - Kol Tregaskes

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Primer - I watched it twice in a row, back-to-back - once without commentary, and once with - and I still didn't fully understand it... I could probably watch it 3-4 more times and find more things about it - Nathan Chase

I've seen Primer only once, but I definitely need to watch it at least once more. Amazing movie. - Brome

The Fifth Element. I flat-out hated it when I saw it at the cinema but now really enjoy it. - Akiva Moskovitz

"the commitments". It took me one year to view it again and totally change opinion. - lelapin

"Memento" but mostly because the plot progression is so weird. - Kevin L

Mission Impossible is just about the only movie I've deliberately watched repeatedly. It took several viewings to figure the plot out. I get bored quickly and generally don't watch anything more than once. - LANjackal

Bumping for later. - Kol Tregaskes

Drowning By Numbers. There is a number in every scene, slowly counting up to 100 when the film ends. Took me a couple of goes to spot them all. - Pete Gilbert

Kevin - Memento was one of those for me, too. - Curtiss Grymala

Agree about Memento, it takes a few go's, well worth watching a over and over though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

How can you forget about 'The Matrix'? I had to watch it over and over. I think it was maybe due to the fact I was 11 when the movie came out. I saw it 7 times to actually get what they were trying to convey. - Faraz Mullick

The Matrix? Really? I mean, the basic idea of it was ripped off from half a dozen other better science fiction stories. The whole "this world is not real" concept is nowhere near new. Anyway, if you want one that takes a few viewings to fully get, go for Donnie Darko. - Otto

I was a kid then. :$ - Faraz Mullick

The Wall. Apocalypse Now. Brazil. Bladerunner. - Jason Wehmhoener

"Once Upon a Time in the West" - Thomas Page

Fight Club - İzzet Emre Kutlu

Twelve Monkeys. - Kol Tregaskes

Quantum of Solace, I thought it was about water *facepalm* - Jimminy

LOL, Jimminy. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Eyes Wide Shut - it wasn't until after multiple watchings that I could express a coherent opinion about it. - nakachi

re: Primer, repeated viewings will actually make you even more confused. Here, let me illustrate what I mean with a spoiler: http://www.freeweb.hu/neuwans... - Goran Zec

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My 30,000th Photograph on Flickr - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

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My 30,000th Photograph on Flickr The photo above represents my 30,000th photograph published to Flickr. It’s a milestone and part of my continuing goal to publish 1,000,000 photos to Flickr before I die. This photograph is from one of my favorite shoots. A shoot I did with my wife and children a ways back in this storm drain in Big Tujunga Canyon. - Thomas Hawk

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@thomasHawk didn't you say you wouldn't use flickr after they were gits once long ago? - Prolific Programmer from IM

Congratulations, Thomas! By the way, that shot would be perfect in my Vanishing Points group... I'll add an invite to it on Flickr. - Kevin Trotman

Hasan, I did stop using Flickr for a while over some some censorship issues a while back. As you know I feel pretty strongly about censorship. I changed my mind though and couldn't really stay away. - Thomas Hawk

"My 30,000th Photograph on Flickr" way to go @thomasHawk. I remember reading yr 10^6 & thinking thats ambitious. Now the Q. In the back of my mind I've been thinking about "how do you a) backup online against flickr takedowns? b) manage & curate the images as times goes on: cost, time etc? - Peter Renshaw

Well mostly I back up my photos by using drobos as primary storage. I also keep another copy of my finished photos on hard drives off location. I upload pretty much the same photos to Flickr and Zooomr. So I've got two copies. Additionally, almost all of my flickr photos are fed into clustershot where they can be marketed for stock photography. I always upload original sized photographs... more... - Thomas Hawk

Veery nice one Thomas. Good job. :) - BraGiu aka Beppe Bravi

Congratulations, Thomas! 970K to go! - Alexander Arsky

Cool! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Congratulations, nice one! - ilya

Congratulations. Doesn't seem like that long since 20000. - James Myatt

Congrats Thomas! - Simon Wicks

Great shot!!! - Prakash

30,000, wow! Made me look. I'm only just past 20,000. Had no idea where I was. Need to pay attention to those landmarks. This is a wonderful shot, but then so many of yours are. You live to witness and share beauty. - Patricia F. Anderson

Awesome! - David Cook from fftogo

Congratulations, and a beautiful picture. Thanks again for sharing - Rob Kramer

That's a great photo, good work. - Patrick

good stuff - imran

500 a week! I feel slug-like. I'm so glad you do what you do with your talent at photography. Thank you for your inspiration and dedication to your craft, 4 children and spouse and a full time career aside. Very thought provoking and challenging. Congratulations on your milestone. - Matt Penning

Congrats on reaching 30,000! Your artwork is always interesting. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Wow! 30,000? - Zachary TG

congrats Thomas! I always look at flickr each day to see what you have uploaded :) - Heather

Congrats!! - Arijit Das

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