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Hmm... we've got the 60-incher in the home... does that make us a high-def brothel? ;) - Kevin C. Tofel

My friend and toss that phrase out a lot for various things. I actually feel a lot better about it now. - Shawn Farner

It's the dot pitch. - Oldengrey (Jay)

you talk to your neighbor while treadmilling? Do they come in and out of the house or do you yell through the window? - Wayne Schulz

Someone is doing something wrong. - Chris Baskind

I use the gym at the Half Moon Bay Ritz. - Robert Scoble

Chris: you have never had a 30-inch monitor on a high-end Mac, have you? - Robert Scoble

Depends what he's watching on it - Nova Spivack

I don't care how large it is (screen size), if it's better than sex then Chris is right - someone is doing something wrong - Jennifer Van Grove

Yeah, if you're bragging about a 30-inch screen being better than sex, chances are you haven't HAD sex since 30-inches was a big screen. But I guess you could be talking about a laptop or computer monitor, and not a television...now THAT would be nice... - Craig Eddy

what's funny is that his wife may already think so too! - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge from twhirl

This might be one of my favorite FF conversations ever. - Zach Underwood

That may also mean he's not doing it right? =) - Winston Teo

What kind of inputs does that thing have? - Oldengrey (Jay)

I've got a 62" big screen with a sweet surround sound and two game consoles hooked to it. I've made the "it's better than sex" comment about that a few times...no one blames me. - Candace

Jennifer and Craig: when guys talk like this they don't actually mean it. I just think that line is funny. - Robert Scoble

if one could "like" comments, I would like Winston's :) - Elisa Camahort Page

Scoble you let the cat out of the bag to all the women here, of *course* some things can be better than sex :) - Craig Eddy

I have a 40". Ask your neighbor if that's better than an orgy. - Long Nguyen

If I bought a 30" monitor without clearing it with my wife first, that's all I'd have for a while. - Andrew Smith

I have a 30" Dell flat screen (2560x1600 res). In the beginning I actually thought it might be too big but now I can totally see myself adding another one. Definitely worth the money and much better than a typical dual-mon setup (and nowadays getting close to the same price). - Gus Perez

@Andrew Smith - ditto...plus infinity on that one. - JA Castillo

i'm going to leave that alone. otoh, dual monitors offer more control of workflow, I believe. - Andrew Feinberg

Not getting one. - Paul W. Swansen

I think I'll probably end up carrying around a Nokia 95 and a 3G iPhone *sigh* - jjprojects

/me raises his hand. - Russell Holliman

Yep. My N95 days will soon be over. Why the need to carry both? For the camera? - Mike Chang

Hopefully within a week or so of release. - Annie Boccio

Mike, yes for the camera! I use it all the time for video and still. It's great. The iPhone cam is only 2 megapixels, not good enough for my purposes at all. - jjprojects

I'm buying a 3G iPhone because it is the only version of the iPhone which will be available in Japan. - Scott Jarkoff

I am there too - @ 8am. - Steve Rubel

My crackberry already has 3G, GeoLocation, 16GB storage, removable battery, camera, video, google apps, etc. and only $30 bucks /month for unlimited data/network - can't touch that! But I will say that I drool for the iPhone UI, so I downloaded a theme that converted my phone to the "look" of an iPhone... no touchscreen though dang it! - Susan Beebe

Why Im NOT buying an IPhone in Canada ,--- For example, for $75 a month, Rogers provides 300 weekday voice minutes, 750 megabytes of data and 100 text messages. In the United States, a customer gets 450 weekday voice minutes, unlimited data and 200 text messages for the same price. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet... - johnpiercy

where are you going rubel at 8am - 5th ave? - Allen Stern

so.. this is where you're hiding. - Dan Hendricks

why don't you just use summize? i don't even use the replies tab anymore. - Veronica

Spent the weekend getting used to FriendFeed - thanks for the tip Leo - it rocks! Figured it all out just by clicking around. Friendfeed me of "Shozu" the way they tie into all the other online services. Really amazing. - Harry Myhre

Friendfeed makes it much easier to see EVERYTHING not just status updates - Grant from twhirl

You're right, Beronica, shoulda thought of Summize. But I still have too many @s to reply to. Even 10 replies would choke Twttr. - Leo Laporte

so re: your switch to friendfeed, how will you manage your status updates when you are mobile? by logging in to the friendfeed site on your mobile browser? - isky

@isky doesn't have to. just twitter the mobile update, it'll show up on ff and ppl can comment there. - xero

its gonna go back down again just you wait - sadiq kassamali

time to ditch all replying at Twitter and do it at FF - Michael McGimpsey

Bah can't believe that such a major part of twitter's functionality was down for so long. FF wins again. - John Samuelson

I only had one new response there to greet me when I clicked Replies! - Joe Dawson

Someone should be keeping a track on the amount of backlash twitter is getting because of its lack of scalability - Jassim

What feature did they turn off in order to ger "Replies" working again? - Michael VanDervort from Alert Thingy

only hundreds? Am surprised-- seeing how long replies were down. I'd have thought @leolaporte would have even more. This is actually v. interesting information for me - john conroy

It was more replies than the paginator would let me read, so I don't really know how many. According to Summize 281 @replies in the past 48 hours. - Leo Laporte

I am liking this FriendFeed concept. Should have looked at it earlier. It's like gossip central. - Andrew L

it'll be really interesting to see when/if ff goes down when they start getting serious traffic. i wonder what their numbers are in relation to twitter - h1ro

I 'upgraded' my desktop from XP to Vista 18 months ago and it worked perfectly for about 12, now its just sluggish, will be going back to XP shortly - Arthur Guy

My laptop was "Vista Capable" when I bought it, and Vista was out, so I upgraded. I downgraded after about 8 months, I couldn't get anything done or use any of my work tools on it without having to jump through hoops. XP runs like lightning on it now that I had to beef up the memory for Vista. ;-) - cmiper

I prefer the vista UI and I find vista has lots of little nice touches all over the place. However, I have good hardware which is all compatible and have no driver issues impacting Vista stability. But there are no killer reasons to switch to Vista though. Office 2007 on the other hand is v annoying.... - Ian Fogg

Yup, mainly for the Tablet PC features. - Kevin C. Tofel

Yes, partly because I work in IT and need to keep an open mind about what's available to the constituency we support. Also, my home system is pretty beefy (quad-core w/4GB RAM), so Vista's rather hefty overhead isn't a problem. - Melissa Woo

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude. - l0ckergn0me

My hardware is more than capable, so I do run Vista on both a home and work laptop. I like the new start menu, built in search, and media center enhancements. - Sean Brady from twhirl

I use Vista and XP. Depends on the hardware you have. If older, stick with XP - Photo Larry

came with my laptop, but last update has been messing with my photoshop - Vincent

Nope, because I moved to Linux. - João Almeida

Yes, but only for gaming and such; rest of the time is spent using OS X - Sean Dunn

Only use XP in a virtual machine on my linux tablet for Outlook/Exchange. - darodave

No, I prefer Leopard. Have XP Pro on a Dell... decided not to switch 'cos so many people were having problems with it. Whenever I tried it on someone else machine there always seems to a crash on it. - Sally Church

Nooo. Last year, I paid for the upgrade and had it on my laptop for 3 weeks. It was awful. Now I have a Mac. - Christina Warren

I upgraded to Vista for one reason. Direct X 10 and the promise of better gaming. So far I've only played a handful of games that have used it. Otherwise I would have stuck to XP. - Mark Krynsky

I really liike the start menu search and the new interface .. just need a better video card then a 7950GT :) - John Blanton from twhirl

Because it came with my laptop and now I'm used to some of what it has to offer (smarter multi-monitor support-- excellent!) and I tolerate the rest. - Rakesh Agrawal

no. don't want to deal with its issues. xp is fine. - edythe

Yes, and I've had almost no issues with it, but I did disable the UAC straight off and I haven't messed with the hardware any. - Mr. Gunn

http://www.youtube.com/watch... - l0ckergn0me

yes on a laptop and desktop and had NO issues with it. I love it - Richard Binhammer from Alert Thingy

I've never used Vista (on a machine that I own.) Although, sometimes a job will require me to use or fix Vista... - Czar

No. I ran the Vista adviser but the buzz said don't bother. - Russellreno

Nope. Very happy with OS X and Ubuntu. - Jonathon

When you have Ubuntu and Mac why bother with any windows? - Greg Bond from twhirl

like Kevin, it's the best OS for my tablet. - Kenneth LeFebvre

Chris...thinking you might want to remove the date from the top of your video for whatever you plan on doing for next year as it detracts from the effect immediately :) - Mark Krynsky

I am very happy with Vista on my ThinkPad X61 ... great tablet experience - Steve Holden

I use it at home. It is fine, but the UAT is annoying - RAPatton

I use both,but I use xp more because some of my hardware is not compatible with vista - Donnovan

Yes. I like it. Don't like its bloat though (both HDD space and RAM). - Dileepa Prabhakar

I wrote my thoughts on the most recent shel israel video here: http://www.1938media.com/shel-is... I was attacked by all the trolls on Loren's site. I think more people need to voice their feelings to Loren's sponsors, eg Zong, Cnet, etc. If all Loren's key partners get a lot of complaints, Loren may rethink his strategy - Adrian Bye

CNET is a sponsor? This is crazy. These people have lost their minds. Dan Farber used to be a mensch. You must be mistaken. - Dave Winer

Dan Farber is the one who HIRED Loren. He also did a puppet interview. here's a link to the "news": http://mashable.com/2008... - Robert Seidman

CNET is trying to get all edgy. Fail. - Cyndy

I was wondering why Dan and CNet thought this a good fit, but hey that's their call. - Mark Forman

Well, I just put a link to Shel's article on Scripting News. I don't normally ask people to link to things but this is one of those times -- link to Shel's article let's make sure that all of TechCrunch's sponsors find out what's going on. I've had enough of this. I can't believe all the people that are dirty here, and I don't understand what for. If there were some embezzlement or fraud it might make sense. But to destroy one harmless person? This is ridiculous. What the fuck is TechCrunch's CEO doing? - Dave Winer

I'm not sure about edgy, but like it's new parent CBS, scrambling to attract "younger viewer demographics" - Robert Seidman

I can't imagine CBS wants a scandal. - Dave Winer

Dave, the PTC is trying to knock "Swingtown" off the air, Loren would be small potatoes relatively speaking. - Robert Seidman

I just sent an email to Dan Farber. I've known him for 25 years. He's always been a good guy. - Dave Winer

what Dan Farber's email ? I would like to tell him that I dont support Loren's pranks no more. It was fun while it lasted. - Peter Dawson

I got an email through to David Marcus, the CEO of Zong. Zong is the sponsor of the "shel israel puppet" show. His blog is here: http://www.davidmarcus.net/ - Adrian Bye

wow, this is really starting to heat up. - Thomas Hawk

I just had a long phone talk with Mike Arrington about this and other topics. I'm not going to post any more on this until I've had a chance to think a bit about it. - Dave Winer

Well, let us know your thoughts. - Andru Edwards

When the dude said he did not like it, that's when it stopped being funny. Which was a long time ago. There's really not that much to think about beyond that. Stop. No. I don't like it. Pretty hard to misinterpret. - Dominic Jones

I understand the notion of feeling attacked, but all industries deserved to be skewered. In fact it's a duty I think. Puppets are a great platform for this, and Loren is essentially satirizing an industry that, while it produces amazing things, can take itself too seriously. I think he is welcome until he's unwelcome. Such is life. - Seamus Condron

I think Loren is doing a major public service with his puppets. They are funny and poke fun in great ways. But if a guy is losing key parts of his business, then its a different story. That is hurting him and his family. Dave, I really look forward to hearing your thoughts. Perhaps there's an inside story we are not aware of. - Adrian Bye

lawl - mike scared dave - Mark Lepzig

looking forward to hearing your thoughts after your conversation with Mike Dave. If it changes your thinking on this I'd be seriously interested in why. Obviously something Mike said had an impact on how you feel about this now or you wouldn't be taking the time away to think about it. I hope you can share what he said to you with the rest of us. - Thomas Hawk

No he didn't scare me. Geez. And my sympathy for Shel will not change either. I encouraged Mike to help him. Obviously that's his decision. - Dave Winer

Dave, you seemed to be escalating this campaign to go after Loren's advertisers/sponsors. I'm not saying that is the right or wrong thing to do, I'm just curious what Mike said and how it may have changed how you think about the situation. - Thomas Hawk

Just a note: I don't know how this translates in English, but french people say: "Le linge sale se lave en famille". - directeur

Welcome to the interwebs-where "dead horses" are resurrected only to be kicked again. - Mark Forman

Just used the FriendFeed block command for the first time. It's every bit as good as Twitter's. "Nick" need not worry about his FF getting clogged with whining. :-) - Dave Winer

My French is horrible directeur, but I think the loose translation would be "Don't air your dirty laundry in public" - Robert Seidman

Robert: Yes, that sounds the same :) - directeur

Just wanted to say by that, that involving the crowd we are in such things just give them more importance (than they deserve?) and maybe can harm too. IMO it's always wiser to filter, jauge and ponder things calmely first. The web is such a mess... take something, push it through an amplifier and the result will be bigger than the original - directeur

Directeur-And you don't think many of the people involved in this discussion are aware of that and doing it for that reason? - Mark Forman

Mark, heh :) - directeur

Touche! is la francais,non? - Mark Forman

Oui touché! :) (though I'm not french neither) :) - directeur

Farber is on the case ... - Oldengrey (Jay)

Directeur-franc-fooled :D - Mark Forman

I am not a fan of Loren's but I believe he is doing a performance more then a personal attack - both of their attention meters have gone up as a result, which is Lorens real goal/purpose (for himself obviously). I disagree with a lot of what has been said but have not wanted to bring more attention to the whole situation so have remained quiet, hoping Loren would grow tired and this would end sooner. If there are real damages here, they wont be resolved in the court of public opinion... - Chris Heuer

With all due respect Chris, passing judgment is easy when you are not caught at the receiving end. Lets see what will happen when you are at the receiving end of something similar and scares away your sponsors. I think public opinion counts here. - Vic Podcaster

In cases of bullying, the best remedy is one that comes from peers. People in the crowd observing have to step forward and say it is not right. Just reciting from the manuals on schoolyard bullying, which is ironic given the ages of those involved. - Dominic Jones from twhirl

I've met Loren several times and he's a very personable guy. I had an exchange of emails with Shel three years ago that were extremely ugly. When Loren made the first puppet video I don't think he had any idea it would take off as it did. After working in PR for so many years Shel should have know better then to write that blog post. Shel needs to contact Loren and ask to be interviewed by his namesake puppet so he can laugh at himself and we can see that he isn't such a bad guy after all. - paul mooney

I need a way to do this too. Preferably on a Mac. - Thomas Hawk

@Kevin, that app is broken. While it will still point out those that are on friendfeed, it can't subscribe anyone. - Mike Wills

Bummer! Thanks for the update Mike. Looks like it's back to manual Diff-ing for now Josh! :( - Kevin C. Tofel

What I'd love even more is a way to import all of my Flickr contacts into FF! Now *that* would be slick. - Thomas Hawk

Same problem here, no way to import! - Karen Swim from Alert Thingy

Other web apps, like BrightKite and others, can raid your Twitter friends via the API, just like FriendFeed can do with Gmail, etc. That's what I'd really like to see, and it would probably have to come from FriendFeed. Feature request! - Josh Bancroft

I'd vote for that feature - big time. - Patrick Jordan

Yeah, dissapointing. I tried it too. It's broke. Oh well. - Chris Leckness

In relationship to news delivery, I hope commentary and reporting don't become blurred. I spend a lot of time in FriendFeed reading, but I still go to traditional news outlets for fact verification. I worry that FriendFeed posts and re-posts, comments could become diluted - the Web 2.0 version of the telephone game. - Liana Lehua

you put friendfeed and mahalo together? - Allen Stern

@Allen The FF / Mahalo connection I see is that both aggregate user-submitted content. Even if the content shared by a user on FF is that of a link to a story from a traditional news source (versus a bloggers perspective piece, for example), the ability to add commentary very much makes it a "human discovery engine" (Mahalo). - Liana Lehua

would someone explain 2 me what Mahalo is. I get the feeling it had something to do with that Calacanis guy n I noticed it listed4example this morning all the newsoutlets coverage of Obama's headscarves censorship. http://www.mahalo.com/Obama_H.... It looks for topics and congregates them on the same page? Wouldn't a google search do that same thing? and why would friendfeed be mentioned in the same concept in this question? Why not just say that the technology has changed language and knowledge - Noah David Simon

Use Social Media to make the news not let Social Media control the news. We as Social Media journalists report the news to Mass Media! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

noah - easiest way to describe it - they scrape links off google (news, search, etc) and then add some text from the scraped links to create robust pages of content. - Allen Stern

I work in PR and the understanding of social media from clients is very thin. Having to explain to a client the importance of having a dialogue with their consumers on an ongoing basis and then needing to explain how much time it will take is quite a challenge. My role is changing, as is the role of PR, from acting on behalf of a company to encouraging companies to engage directly themselves. - PaulJohnson

friendfeed put me in touch with a lot of voices I had previously not even heard of. I wonder what it will do once it moves out of a small circle of people. - Günther Mulder from twhirl

Mahalo is a roach motel, last week I looked for Roadrunner computer on Google, Mahalo was the sixth result so I clicked....three Mahalo pages later I found my way to the IBM home page where I searched again. Now I have a blog post about Roadrunner, but does Mahalo know? - paul mooney

I'm thinking a new corporate position and title will emerge from all of this. Companies won't want to pay PR hours to monitor and post to the blogosphere and it WILL become a full-time job. Director of online communications? - Steve Poppe

Every marketer in the world should want to influence and monitor search when it comes to their product or service. Google is one of the top places that people turn to to find information out about products today. FF is essentially building social search disguised as an aggregation service. Social Search will have huge implications in the future. Savvy PR folk will use FF to both monitor and influence search with regards to their brands. - Thomas Hawk

Journalists want and need fast access to interactive information. FF provides a platform for that, re Marshall's discovery post yesterday, or in fact this very post of yours today Steve. Some early journalists like Chris Nuttall (FT) and Jessica Guynn (LATimes) are already building a presence here. More will come and it will be a resource that they can use to quickly poll and get quotes and source leads. - Thomas Hawk

seems like pr and journalism have very different needs. pr likes people to reuse teh message. to journalists, that's verging on plagiarism. - Seth Gottlieb from twhirl

If you're working in or covering the online community, FF can provide insight into what people are thinking, or can help you identify trends or sources. On the flip side, the potential danger is that since social media haven't hit the broader mainstream, relying on it too much can give you an "inside the beltway" view. - Dave Pelland

you are talking about Apples and Seeds and then asking about the relevance of fruit. friendfeed is a seed. Google is the fruit and Mahalo is the stupid packaging that makes it look snazzy in the store - Noah David Simon

While you working on yours, read mine! http://www.igorthetroll.com/blog... - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Another instance of precommenting. i liked that - Varun Mahajan

I actually feel the only way FF is 'part' of journalism/PR is using it as this example. PR people can post updates on client/company news, and have interactive commentary with interested parties. Similarly, journalists can post stories in progress and gain feedback/ideas from the outside world. Just as you have done here. :) - Jeremy Toeman

I certainly don't think that FF is going to replace PR - there is simply too much value in a compelling story delivered at the right time to be ignored, but I also think that the roles are about to get a lot blurrier, and people are going to find huge success utilizing this stuff to bring new products and services to market. - Eric Hamilton

Steve - I wrote a post along these lines: "Will Brands Figure Out FriendFeed?" http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008... (I guess those would be my thoughts) - Hutch Carpenter

Hutch -- the bigger question is what does it mean to figure out Social Media for brands (especially big brands). Scoble can explain the Gary V. side of the equation and everyone will agree. There are metrics to support the case. Where are the metrics for determining if Comcast being on Twitter mattered? P.S. I'm asking for numeric documentation of success -- not speculation or emotional responses. Scoble may get misty-eyed at Gary V., but Gary V. could show you why it matters to him. I doubt Comcast can. - Robert Seidman

Seidman: or another case is HRBlock on Twitter. They saw enough goodness to come out of that. These things aren't really done for metrics, though. It's like "what's the metrics" of a press tour? Or a speech at a conference? Businesses do things all the time for a lot of reasons other than just pure ROI. - Robert Scoble

For your inspiration http://friendfeed.com/rooms... - Erhan Erdogan

Comcast has metrics for their ROI on their PR team (quantitative AND qualitative). They don't have any quantitative analytics on social media. Until they do -- it's all kool-aide talk. what's more valuable to Comcast: three more people on ComcastCares or three more people on the phones? How do you measure and how do you decide? I think the answers to these questions are very worthwhile. I can't comment on H&R block since its primary business is capitalizing on people who are afraid of basic math - Robert Seidman

Look it is all about fine tuning the noise into the Signal.You really need to have the passion for this to work. We are redefining the marketing model. Explosion! Bang, Bang The Coke Machine Blown up in Cyber Space! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

it's a dramatic change for the press. No longer are they confined to corp.reports press offices and senior level interviews for the "facts" with corp. bloggers and others spewing opinions and data. The risk is we are already seeing the blurring of lines between commentary, opinions and "real journalism" (hold your attacks). The old editorial checks and balances are rapidly giving way to a much looser, faster--and more interesting--form of "news" delivery (i was a writer for BusinessWeek in a former life) - mark ivey

Paul: If you look at the road runner computer page you'll see it's a well written Guide Note with citations, tons of facts, and a GREAT place to start. It's not intended to be the final destination, but rather a starting point for folks. Allen Stern calls what we do "scraping" but that's not accurate. We actually select our links across many, many services and Google is the last place we really look to be honest. We need interesting links and places like stumble and delicious are the best places for those. - Jason Calacanis

jason, to some extent no matter where you are getting the links, it's still scraping the links, and it doesn't mean it's bad - of course what i like is that you link back and don't take the content - that's a good thing. - Allen Stern

10 years from now, each of us will be kicking out feed entries every time we blow our noses. FriendFeed is - to my mind - a way for people to get control of the feeds they generate and focus them toward a coherent narrative. - Rob Sterling

Jason, you saying Maholo works, but I will disagree with you. My travel agency Website that is 8 years old, in DMOZ, IATA registered is not in Mahalo, while some crappy non IATA agency is! You tell me how is Mahalo doing a good job? You just scraping not contributing to evolution and improvement of search. - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

it really puts a spotlight on the fact that journalism is a process - not a product. We have forgotten that journalism is a series of steps: collect, filter and distribute - information. Sites like FriendFeed enable journalism without the media. I found out about Tim Russert's death via Twitter. It wasn't "media" - it was just people living their lives and sharing information. It's news without newspapers, journalism without media, etc. - David Cohn

Allen, you know very well what scraping means... it means taking something not yours and doing no original work. We hand curate our results... they are all hand selected. Robots scrape... humans curate. - Jason Calacanis

I think it's interesting that Steve calls FF a 'human discovery engine' while it really is so much more. Journalism (and delivery vehicles) have already changed dramatically. There have already been social and financial shifts. Twitter played a role. FF will be larger over time (in m opinion). Traditional journalists need to learn and read (quick) or they will simply be downsized and replaced by more prolific writers (that know what they're talking about) right here on Friendfeed, and elsewhere. - Charlie Anzman

discovery = learning. FF, Twitter and similar ramp up my discovery, therefore increasing my rate of learning. - Paul Moss