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Sketckbook Work - http://artythings.posterous.com/sketckb...
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- Chris Bellinger
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My Top Ten Favorite Google Products - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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My top one is Google Maps, but I'm biased.
- Anne Bouey
Translator is my top one.
- Joe
My order of importance : reader, search, AdSense, documents, email, maps, browser, Analytics, YouTube - that's it. Thank you for making me think about it!
- Detlef Cordes
How To: Backup Your Tweets and Make Them Searchable with Google Calendar - http://www.steverubel.com/how-to-...
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thx for the tip!
- Dave Hodson
Twitter keeps going down. FriendFeed FTW! Apple event is too much, I guess.
Daniel Rowley, randy stewart, Micah Wittman and 6 other people liked this
Good thing we have FriendFeed, though it would be great if an event some day would bring FF down too...Means a lot more people on FF
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
I think of friend feed as a private country club still
- Sherry Reynolds
Twitter down, FF up
- Ricardo Alamino
Couple the Apple event with the Gov 2.0 event in DC
- Benjamin Strong
from FreshFeed
@Sherry very well said
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
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another photo from the walk
- Chris Bellinger
from Bookmarklet
Instead of #followfriday I wish everyone favorited Tweets like http://twitter.com/scoblei... that way could see who's best today
Vlad Hrouda, Carolyn Chan, Bob DeMarco and 5 other people liked this
I think there's an idea there for another Twitter vanity site.
- Mark Krynsky
Yuck. FF Likes are much better.
- Louis Gray
it would be cool if when I liked a Tweet on FF it would automatically added to my favourite tweets on Twitter
- Anthony Feint
Instead of Thursdays, I wish we had two Fridays :)
- Micah Wittman
Good idea
- Pierre-Philippe Martin
Twitter analytics for individual users - http://themineproject.org/2009...
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Don’t just seek the light at the end of the tunnel…be the light through it! #Henie
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"Don't seek - be!" I like that. Reminds me of the buddhist saying: "The way is the goal."
- Detlef Cordes
We only have the moments of our lives. And there is so much more to a moment that an intention, even a good one could never encompass. Simply enjoy the shining presence. But who is able to do that? Not me (most of the time).
- Detlef Cordes
Lights in the tunnel http://bit.ly/2unCSv (Flickr). Colorful spirits dancing in the tunnel. They don't wait for anything. They enjoy the brilliance of the moment. Oh, are they momentizing?
- Detlef Cordes
"Momentizing" as the guy in this video does http://bit.ly/2HTgxR ?
- Detlef Cordes
Just one person can inspire action! http://www.youtube.com/watch... via @MerelyAvessel (via @HennArtOnlinen @BCCF @Lotay)
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Amazing video! Is this what "going viral" means? 1 initiator, 1 early adopter, 2 early adopters - and then literally a landslide. Striking how the name of the social game in front of the fence changes during the video.
- Detlef Cordes
And now imagine you were just catering to the people sitting qietly in front of the fence: because they were clearly the majority. You'd either go broke or change your business modell.
- Detlef Cordes
Henie says this is "momentizing" http://bit.ly/kAHA2 as opposed to monetizing.
- Detlef Cordes
I wish Twitter would sell to Google so it would die like Jaiku and Dodgeball. But I won't post this over on Twitter. I really don't have much love for the service, even though I know I'll be stuck using it for the indefinite future. Jesse Stay has it figured out. It's a horrid place to try to communicate anything other than a bit of self pimping.
Anthony Citrano, John B. Osborne, Ozer Wrzl (EN) and 164 other people liked this
Here I can write the equivilent of an entire blog post. And even make changes. And even have a conversation. And use it as many times an hour as I want (Twitter rate limits my apps after a while cause I'm too heavy of a user).
- Robert Scoble
werd.
- imabonehead
I can sense already that FriendFeed is slowing down now that it is joining Facebook, while Twitter still has the best flow (and best system for following people and best mobile clients). So, we're stuck with Twitter, which is too bad, because the technology here is a ton better.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter is a piece of crap - BUT it's where the audience is (currently).
- Jim Connolly
Now it is starting to feel like FF again with you bigging it up again Robert ;)
- Travis Koger
Twitter is the new MySpace.
- imabonehead
Maybe google wave will change the way we use twitter, etc. again. Haven't tried it yet, but it might succeed where friendfeed "failed" - getting enough people to use it.
- Frank S.
Travis: I had to go and clean out my Twitter and Facebook accounts and spread out my usage.
- Robert Scoble
Agreed! - Friendfeed is so much better (for as long as it really lasts in Facebook world...)
- Matthew Blaisdell
from iPhone
Robert: I'm thinking of setting up a facebook account for my Marketing blog - what do you think?
- Jim Connolly
@Scobleizer I don't think Friendfeed would be quite so popular if it weren't for twitter
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
Twitter is the new Myspace - HAHA - this quote made my day. For me it is just becoming a multiplicator for my friendfeed but it is important for that!
- Sascha Pallenberg
Prolific: I'm not so sure. Blogs made Twitter. So, what if there were no Twitter? We would still talk up something else. But maybe FriendFeed wouldn't have thrived anyway. Twitter hit a sweet spot with its easy to program API, it's easy to use interface, and its cute name and branding.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter works extremely well on mobile devices. I constantly see people tweeting whereas it's more difficult to do with FriendFeed's interface for a typical user.
- imabonehead
Really think that Twitter is annoying it's users too much. There's some problems out there that are really being ignored. Here's an example of a problem that could be solved very simply, but no action is being taken (if it was solved it'd create a lot of goodwill) http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter...
- Edd McArdle
Robert, now that FriendFeed's people are working for Facebook, and since Facebook has already been making changes to make it more "open socially", do you think eventually that Facebook will become the best place to have serious conversations?
- Carlton Hackett
Carlton: yes.
- Robert Scoble
I've been thinking so too. Although, I wonder how the non-Soc/net junkies will respond to that?
- Carlton Hackett
Robert, two thoughts. #1 - do you think Google really would let it die? Acquiring Twitter would be more like its YouTube acquisition than Jaiku (in terms of price and # of users). Secondly, what would Twitter have to change for you to change your opinion?
- Ben Parr
I really, really, really want Twitter to work out is the thing. It's just a pain in the neck to communicate without either losing the conversation or spamming useless banter over multiple Tweets because you can't fit it in 140 characters. That's just my experience. Those still spending most their time there don't mind it I guess.
- Jesse Stay
I like Twitter. The conversation flows pretty well for me, and to be fair, I get more @replies there than I get replies here to my posts.
- Chris Nixon
I think a combination of the Retweet API and a true threaded replies architecture and UI could change some of my opinion on that though if they do it.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: It's NOT just your experience. Twitter is getting less valuable the bigger it gets. The spam / porn / bots issue is insane and ruining the experience.
- Jim Connolly
Chris: I have a twitter account with over 20,000 followers and get ten times as many replies here as I get there. Here I only have a small following. The calibre of people I connect with here is better too.
- Jim Connolly
Jesse, have Twitter improved their communication with developers since you wrote about it in April?
- Edd McArdle
Edd, over the last week I have noticed a difference, yes, but it's hard to tell if it will remain that way. They now seem to have a project manager over the API dev team (Ryan Sarver). He seems to be putting a filter on some things and keeping devs updated elsewhere. They're still learning though, much slower than FB or FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
agree on spam and bots, but it still is a nice little thing, if it remains what it was made for! marketing and reviewing thing isn't/shouldn't be there, true friendfeed is more effective as a tool for sending your message across, it is simple and strong
- testbeta
Testbeta: ... and FF works.
- Jim Connolly
Jim, Jesse, Robert: Value varies. For me, Twitter value continues to increase. I use it to find out what's happening, meet up with people, get random insights into how people are doing, find new people. It all works well. There are many different use cases and one tool does not have to do them all.
- Rachel Clarke
i couldn't agree more!
- lilian
Rachel: "It all works well"? Really? Twitter?
- Jim Connolly
Rachel, I agree with you. I just don't think Twitter works well for conversations, that's all. I use FriendFeed and Facebook for that. I use Twitter for different purposes, and I agree it does still have value.
- Jesse Stay
sometimes i think of Automattic's intense debate, but well friendfeed is intense debate, such a experience was never had on blogs, the commenting, liking, and so fast it propagates, even disqus commenting systems can't achieve what we have here on friendfeed, but i can't just throw away twitter, twitter still is good, true for the serious types it's word limit, reply system is a bit of...
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- testbeta
I would love to have FriendFeed as the commenting system on my blog.
- Chris Nixon
Chris, there are a few plugins that do that. I haven't tried them though.
- Jesse Stay
Chris: Check out what Scoble's doing with FF on building43.com
- Jim Connolly
Jim: yes. It works well for what I want it to do (I'm ignoring the ongoing issues with the DDOS). It's a free tool that adds far more value than it costs me to wait for odd outage.
- Rachel Clarke
Just checked your Twitter account and now understand exactly what you are saying.
- Jim Connolly
Jesse: agree, I use Facebook, Friendfeed, blogs, comments etc, all for different things. I even use the phone as a phone occasionally to talk with people ;-) But the assumption that one tool/service can do everything - and should do everything - is something I have a problem with. If something does not work for a person, don't use it.
- Rachel Clarke
The twitter ecoverse is cool, can do Psychological Profiles, can do Social Network Analysis. All those services that spawned as a result are amazing. I am also amazed at how dense Asians Languages are on Twitter, think about it they get about 60% more per tweet.
- Robert Higgins
Ben: at this point I am not sure what Twitter could do to win back my love. I will use it just like I use AT&T and United Airlines. I have very little love for those even though I use them frequently. Twitter wins because it is simple and flat and has great clients. I wouldn't cry if it disappeared, though.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
So why do you hate it?
- Raanan Avidor
You are a hypocrite! I remember you use to sing the praises of Twitter all the time. Another toy comes along and you start bashing it. If I was Friendfeed management I would cancel your account now before you start bashing them. Robert Scoble is nothing but a follower of crowds anyway.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
You want it to die? Such an odd statement. I have met so many great people through Twitter, and the news information I can find through search or news agencies or even people who are newshounds are amazing. I know it's not perfect and the last few weeks have definately proved that, and the spam is just awful. But to want to kill it, what a strong statement.
- PC Easy
from twhirl
Twitter is not abot writing blog posts or having conversations, its about small pieces of information being communicated to anyone who wants to listen. You do not have to listen, if you want a conversation use a forum or FriendFeed, use WordPress for blog posts. Stop trying to make Twitter into something it is not designed to be.
- Darren Rollett
I really used to like Twitter, still do sometimes. What I don't like is the Twitter hype. I don't seem able to turn on any media channel these days without reading/hearing or watching about it. Even the BBC reported that Twitter was under attack recently on the main BBC news. FFS come on, there must be more happening in the world than a micro blogging site with a few million users...
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- Nick Bristow
If you owned twitter would you sell to google?
- cheapsuits
from iPhone
Robert, Atleast something positive could come out of it. If Twitter sells to Google they might(though its not guaranteed) make it opensource and then a federation of twitter server(ala wave servers) can co-exist happily and that way we'll own our stuff(as Anil Dash and other points out). Or they might integrate it in Wave framework. Not that people are not gonna complain about it but thats a different topic.
- Abhishek
Surely an improvement in the service would be a more positive wish?
- Chris Nixon
Say what you want but something with the architecture of friendfeed is far more conversational then twitter could ever be.
- cheapsuits
I don't know why people think Twitter is the place to converse. It's really not built for that. I find myself enjoying the flow of conversations more on Facebook and FriendFeed.
- Naomi Williams
Self pimping? Hmmm... Perhaps not for all of us. And besides, self-pimping isn't limited to twitter.
- @JonAston
PS - Maybe it's just me, but you seem bitter lately. Hope you turn that around for yourself.
- @JonAston
Jon: You are right. People pimp on FriendFeed too; as I say in my new book.... :-)
- Jim Connolly
@jim, they will do anywhere, this is human nature, they do even in real life, so why not in virtual one?
- abdellah
Abdellah: Absolutely.
- Jim Connolly
"(Twitter) It's a horrid place to try to communicate anything other than a bit of self pimping." AMEN
- Alejandro
Personally I wish Google would buy both Facebook and Twitter so they could both die.
- Brian Sullivan
@brian, hey where could I read to you then?!!
- abdellah
@Frank S. Google Wave will only be valid if you actually have other friends/collegues who use Google Wave. Otherwise you'll be using it with the *crickets*
- Naomi Williams
Oh yeah -- forgot that due to circumstances beyond our control FF is now Facebook. ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
oh yeah , they share the same vision, they got the same perception...
- abdellah
It's the ff interface (developers) that make it great, but it's really you guys and gals, the people friendfeed attracted that make it valuable to me. Let's consider a real migration to a more reliable long term social media. It has to be open (data portable, unsellable) to get my trust
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
I hope the FaceBook people will take comments like these to heart. I do like twitter but the functionality FriendFeed brought was the next generation in stream notification.
- Chris Jackson
Ohh time to pimp Jim's new book on Twitter ;)
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Mark: Yeah - all I need is a title. Oh, and a book....and the time to write one....then I will be pimping like a pro!
- Jim Connolly
Wow Robert, I was thinking this the past few days and could never bring it to words...well done
- Braden Douglass
Jim: I'm time bankrupt but love sharing and collaborating. Let's hire a ghostwriter to capture our best ideas in an intelligible manner :). Joking of course, there's no easy way to spread our thoughts but doing it ourselves
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
I was gonna call the Funky Phantom. (That really dates me.)
- Jim Connolly
Robert, I challenge you to stop using Twitter for a month and then blog about the experience. And that includes hiding all Tweets in FF.
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
Lets face it, Twitter was built as an update service - a big Internet megaphone. The natural transition has been from update service to marketing service. Big Internet Megaphone. It's good at that, but it's not at conversations nor at discovery. The larger problem is people still approach Twitter like a true social engagement tool - and it's simply not. The disconnect between perception and reality results in the poor adoption numbers and other soft metrics.
- AJ Kohn
twitter is noise. filter it and you can find some gold. imho, that's beyond mere self-pimpage
- Rob Schieber
Agreed Rob. I'd prefer semantic algorithms applied to all tweets. I'm interested in real time search and datamining. And semantic extraction on all status would allow for real time "sorting"
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
i'd love to meetup with fellows and see what api scraping is going on - know where threads are for that?
- Rob Schieber
Idk, This seems so much better then twitter.
- SeanParnell
It does have a lot of noise, granted - but if it went away now, I'm not sure where everyone would run to. Facebook is too silly, Linkedin is too stolid, and everything else is too fractured for me to communicate with all the people I want to in a single shot. Guess I'd end up doing everything through ping.fm after all.
- Ciaoenrico
Wow, Isn't online chit-chat such a fuss? :)
- SeanParnell
Robert, just a week or two you were saying that Twitter is beating FriendFeed because of scanability http://friendfeed.com/scoblei.... And you had lots of complaints about the FriendFeed user interface. You also talked about how Twitter was much better after you un-followed everyone and hand picked who you're following. I have to ask, what has changed in the past few days to make you say that the service should die? Feels like you're flip flopping.
- Mike Doeff
Can't you apply for extended API limits?
- Tristan Seligmann
love the single post/status page, i mean like this: http://twitter.com/twitter...
- testbeta
I noticed that in the past two weeks, the tweet intensity has greatly decreased from all my follows in Twitter. Granted, I'm not following too many, but the ones I do follow have traditionally tweeted a lot each day. Is this a trend (has Twitter become a has been) or is this simply a coincidental anomaly?
- Jeff Sayre
Robert I find myself on friendfeed more these days
- (jeff)isageek
@brian would you consider myspace if both facebook and twitter die?!!(ps: sorry I forget the LOL)
- abdellah
Myspace -- don't know. I haven't really tried or paid attention to it. But probably not -- isn't it Facebook like? Maybe usenet? ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
brian, let forget all those techie and go irc :)
- abdellah
IMO, people who don't like the limitations of Twitter and whine about it hampering them are using it wrong. Twitter is not a place to pimp your blog or drive traffic to your site. It is not an SEO tool. It's not a place for you to compete in order to get more 'followers'. If you've ever tried to do any of these things, or if you ever followed more than a few hundred people, then yes, no...
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- Otto
Well said Otto
- Chris Nixon
Jesse Stay: you should stop complaining so much about twitter when you build an entire business based on their lack of functionality and other issues.
- Mihai Secasiu
Mihai, I'm not complaining - they can do what they want. As I said I really want them to succeed. It's a matter of fact that they do have their flaws - I'm hoping to help them fix those, assuming they're listening at all. What are you doing to help Twitter get better?
- Jesse Stay
it is like twitter if for what,where, when and friendfeed is for why, how
- testbeta
Mike: just because I use a service doesn't mean I love it. I use ATT and United all the time and they suck too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
And yes Twitter has some good things about it. Doesn't mean it is all good. Personally it is overused and overhyped and YES I am partially responsible.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Apostol I get value out of Twitter. You aren't listening. I get value out of AT&T too but it COULD be so much more. Chris I tried to be positive but Twitter just doesn't respond to positivity. Plus they are cynical AT BEST about their users. Read the Twittergate documents to see just how cynical they are.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Twitter was just there at the right time. It's not the best solution to the problem (microblogging), but it's good ~enough~.
- Trent Hamm
You seriously think Twitter will die once it gets bought by a 'bigger' company?
- Mike Shields
Mike: do you use Dodgeball? It was bought by Google. So was Jaiku.
- Robert Scoble
Trent: did you just call Twitter the Microsoft of microblogging? Yeah, that's sorta what I was trying to say too! ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I just find it amazing that all the early adopters get really snobby about Twitter now it is getting more mainstream. There is something snobby about people's attitude to Facebook as well. I'm not a fan of Facebook but I know more people who use Facebook than use Twitter or Friendfeed combined. Even my mum has a Facebook account but she'd never be on Twitter or Friendfeed. Twitter...
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- Paul Nash
I liked Pownce. I wonder what SixApart has cooking up for them. So there's really no chance for Plurk to make a comeback and take back the community? With all the outage problems Twitter has, I would think Plurk would try to capitalize on that. Guess not.
- John Wang
now if the Google Reader team could just get their new commenting system streamlined and real-time ... :)
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
Paul: it's not hard to understand if you are in our shoes. Here's why. When a company is young and struggling to get noticed, they love having early adopters. After all, that's the ONLY WAY a company gets to the next stage. I've never seen a company go straight to Oprah stage without getting early adopters excited. Then once the company gets enough traction they usually start mistreating the early adopters. In this case Twitter stabbed them in the back. Leo Laporte, for instance ...
- Robert Scoble
...got me excited about Twitter and was THE REASON it was the big huge deal at that 2007 SXSW. He had more followers than Mashable last year. But did he get put on the Suggested User List? No. So now Mashable has more than a million and Leo has a knife in his back. And you think it's amazing that early adopters turn their backs on Twitter? Really now.
- Robert Scoble
I don't see how Leo has a knife in his back. There was no preconceived notion that anyone would be added to that list. Who cares? He was fine before that list was created, and he can be just as fine now, and just as engaging.
- Andru Edwards
Andru: when he was hyping up the service and telling his users to use it, he was getting something in return: being at the top of the follower lists. When Twitter artificially put its own people at the top of the follower lists, and handed out grants of followers (worth many hundreds of thousands of dollars, by the way -- Mashable has changed its entire business to be Twitter centric) they specifically dissed Leo and many others. Most of whom won't point it out in public.
- Robert Scoble
Sadly true. I'm in much the same boat -- Twitter is a necessity for professionals and bloggers to stay on top of things, but other socialnets like Brightkite and FF are light years beyond it, which doesn't look to be changing any time soon. Don't even get me started on the spammers and the get-rich-quick'ers.
- Ryan Meader
But before the SUL was released, didn't Leo abandon Twitter in favor of Jaiku, due to Twitter having "Twit" as part of its name? Just saying, if I owned a list that I had complete control over, and someone showed that behavior towards me (whether it was right or wrong, I am not judging), I would think twice before putting them on a list that will result in many people seeing they they...
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- Andru Edwards
I can't agree with you more, Robert.
- Jon Ursenbach
Scobe: I very much disagree that it is about self pimping. Perhaps your senses are mush because you follow too many? I absolutely love getting that link to a new article or research, or to get a tweet from that celeb that makes me think and provides insight into a new world. I also use it as a research tool, for exploratory purposes. Twitter, as you know very well, is about what you make it, and that is a tenuous notion that really is influenced by who you follow.
- Chad Gesser
Andru: again, the list did NOT exist in the days when we were hyping up Twitter. So, there was a "promise" to early adopters that if they invested time in the service they could be at the top of the follower lists. Sort of how PlayFoursquare is today promising users that they can become mayors of places they frequent more than anyone else. What Twitter did was the equivilent of PlayFoursquare telling everyone that their "mayorship" doesn't matter anymore and that Oprah is now mayor of everywhere.
- Robert Scoble
Chad: one thing you have to remember about me is that I see that Twitter has 1,001 uses. Stop seeing the world as black and white. This is one post I'm making about Twitter among thousands. Translation: I already agreed with you. But you have to admit that many people use Twitter for self promotion.
- Robert Scoble
Andru: and anyway, the SUL is hardly the only reason to diss Twitter. Twitter still goes down all the time, it still has stupid rate limits. It still can't block spam effectively. It still has no friend management. It still has no features that didn't exist a year ago. And it is, in many respects, behaving worse. I'm hearing from developers that Twitter is becoming more closed, not more open (to monetize) and we're seeing them pick winners before the marketplace is done (bit.ly anyone?)
- Robert Scoble
The nice thing about Twitter is that it keeps your message short and to the point. Friendfeed is great but it doesn't lend itself well to an external app out of the browser. Also FriendFeed and any of these services you don't own your content
- Seth Goldstein
Seth: bing! So, back to the blog we will go. Except, why are we still here? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Awww Twitter the "me" network :)
- Wayne Sutton
from iPhone
Anyone tried Streamy?
- cheapsuits
because the interraction is in real time
- abdellah
Wayne: retweet me. :-) abdellah: I thought it was because of all the sex. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
that was my expectation too ;)
- abdellah
I like friendfeed because of its realtimeyness, but I like twitter because it requires you to be concise. I have seen some brilliant tweets done in 140 characters or less. I think that's always been the allure of twitter, its sheer simplicity. How many features can you add to twitter without actually changing the core of what twitter is?
- Tomy Thomson
Robert: But what do you want from these companies ? Chaps like you give them the oxygen of publicity they need and they court you and then when they become successful you suddenly start to criticise them. Friendfeed has become successful (in great part to your endless plugging of it) and the founders will now go on to make money through their company being taken over by Facebook. You,...
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- Paul Nash
Scoble: no doubt....I can deal with the self promotion, the e marketing and spam garbage though to me is what has gooootttt to go
- Chad Gesser
Paul: my role in life is to use what will be, not what is. I don't turn on many companies, but Twitter isn't one that dealt with early adopters on good faith.
- Robert Scoble
nick: I explained why above.
- Robert Scoble
Is there a "social media" company that has dealt with early adopters in "good faith"? Facebook, FriendFeed, Flickr I suspect don't qualify ? Any that do?
- Brian Sullivan
all platforms seem to have self pimpering styles, why so passionate against twitter? Objectional question, not one of rhetoric.
- nick tadd
Brian: I didn't know that any of those have actively dissed their best early adopters. Facebook kicked me off, but only because I broke the TOS. It's always been straight up with me. Same with Flickr, although I do watch Thomas Hawk's talk about their censorship.
- Robert Scoble
none as brian says, they all deal with them, and "the earlier adopter" contribute to their evolution until they sell (sorry)
- abdellah
nick: because it's so prevalent there. "Look at my blog post about xxx" is almost a staple on Twitter. It's a new RSS reader. Which is fine, I use it too for that! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I think you may have the makings for one of your future blogs here. Perhaps you do it for that reason? ;) The thing about Twitter is always going to be its LBE. It's a mainstream LBE to Social Media. For that very reason its perfect for business, government, and non profit to take public temperature and promote. The other "noise" is the "MV", the "mainstream voice". The conversation is 4 way.(and yes sometimes only 1 way) but there it is and its not going to go away any time soon.
- Melanie Reed
Yes, indeed, Twitter is the Microsoft of microblogging. It's good enough, but not the best - but it has the huge advantage that everyone is using it, so you have to use it for compatibility reasons.
- Trent Hamm
DAMN Robert I HATE that you are right on this one!!!!!
- Arleen Boyd
Hopefully you use it for positive self pimping and not for negative pimping... which is inevitable
- Kevin Burrell
If FF would have taken mobile seriously, the game might look different right now
- Alex C. Williams
Alex, they are taking mobile seriously - they sold to Facebook. :-)
- Jesse Stay
I can't see how Twitter can survive Facebook now. FB will bring Twitter down, the only chance they got is to sell to Google.
- Patrik Johansson
What makes people think Facebook or Twitter is all-conquering? There's a new generation coming through, and they aren't using these services. It's very important not to get sucked in by the hype of a service you use. Fanboys will talk up the positives and ignore the negatives, giving you a skewed message. The truth is somewhere in the massive grey area in between.
- Chris Nixon
The new generation uses Facebook a lot, but not Twitter.
- Steph (sh_skew)
from email
Twitter is just a temporary solution for a quick mixture of instant messaging + status updates + chat forum.
- Bora Wiemann
Just having a discussion today that Twitter will eventually go bankrupt when the hype is over
- Khuram Hussain
I don't agree with you Robert. Twitter is easy to use, succinct and versatile. I've made multiple very meaningful connections through my use of twitter. I do like friendfeed's threaded conversations which are great but in a way it only helps those who have big followings like yourself, because people are more apt to comment on your thread than say mine because they know the conversation...
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- Lon Cohen
For example - how do I message you directly so you know I'm speaking to you (i.e. Twitter @ reply) but all your followers and my followers know that we're having a conversation in Twitter back and forth so that they can follow and interject when they want. Everytime we do that we have to start a brand new discussion thread and I have to "tell" you somehow that I'm talking to you. Twitter is like email/phone conversations and friendfeed is like collective blogging/commenting.
- Lon Cohen
Amen, Robert.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
The power and beauty of twitter originate from limitation. Think of it as conversation haiku.
- Brendan
Anthony Hatton : Factotum - http://www.axisweb.org/seWORK...
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From my hero Turner to this! is this Art a question I return to. i love books and to think that someone spent a whole masters and came up with....perhaps i am being harsh but i do question some things
- Chris Bellinger
from Bookmarklet
I would have a tendency to like this I guess............
- Kevin J Hatton
Aw, Chris, I like this. It's so humorous. The word "Factotum" in the context of a tower (of Babel?) of books. A book might be a willing servant for anything. Even the small flight of stairs in the background fits the allegory. So uplifting :)
- Detlef Cordes
I can see it but there is but with me.....a guy did a Tree sculpture at Uni using Books. now that was good ..I like books I know I am probaly missing the point here
- Chris Bellinger
Writer’s sign above desk: Close brain; open heart. #Henie
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I like this maxim. For me it' a difficult process, though, for what is written down by the hands in any way has to go through the brain before. - No other way. And part of the brain is always reason, who wants something, who has an intention, who has a strategy. Sometimes reason is weakened by alcohol - or a strong emotion. But I think this is not what we are talking about here. I feel that I am at my creative best, when the brain and reason trust the heart.
- Detlef Cordes
I think Pamela's concept of a 30 day challenge http://bit.ly/1ngnnJ might be a bridge between brain and heart. To produce a work of art each day for 30 days - no matter what. It seems like a paradox: but to set a rigid rule sets creativity free. I was working with a similar concept in a German language environment: to produce a music video for children each day. I created music videos my head never would have created without the pressure of the rules. I can say: those rules set my heart free.
- Detlef Cordes
Jeb would very much like to live on the beach. not near it, or close to it. on it. like, in a tent would be fine. prolly wouldn't even need a real job to pull that off. hmmm...
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I would like to live on the beach, too. A stilt house would be great, as most beaches get flooded from time to time. And then the wind and the rain. I love them both but I like the posibility to watch them from safety. Yeah: a stilt house on the beach surrounded by a porch. That's probably the place to have my morning coffee.
- Detlef Cordes
I'd like to live in a stilt house on the beach - like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Detlef Cordes
FriendFeed's Not Dead. While Not Clear, Its Future Could Be Very Big. - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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Is the goal necessarily that FF become very big? Isn't part of the fun that relatively few of the (now most likely) 7 million make their "home" here, so one can feel part of a community - one that's neither insular in the way that FB can be nor, at the other extreme, a seething crowd of people, each trying to promote his or her own agenda, rather than creating a kind of, well, friendship?
- Amy℠
Amy, it can be idyllic to want a small community where you know everyone, but FriendFeed is not a non-profit company, and it is working in the shadows of companies that are growing very quickly. We would be naive to think the company's employees would be uninterested in building a site that served a larger audience and made money.
- Louis Gray
A bigger FF isn't necessarily a bad thing. Ppl have made groups, friends and connections here, and having a bigger pool won't stop that.
- WorldofHiglet
I hear - and I understand. No doubt we will end up creating micro-communities within FB. I can't tell if I'm an anomaly, but I don't think I am, in that I intentionally keep my FF and my FB activities separate. My siblings, my friends' kids, and my high school class president don't really need to know that, say, I just commented on Amir's link to an article on sex toys. I admit I need to investigate further, and you're right - we must live in our own time, accept what is and learn to work with it.
- Amy℠
This will be quite a reassuring post for many FFers, Louis.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I am still not sure I understand why Friendfeed decided to sell off so early. But now that the transaction is done, the biggest impact Friendfeeder's can have is to take some of the friendfeed core concepts: more open, better real-time search, simpler experience, much better API and help morph facebook. That is going to consume 150% of the friendfeed team (and it should). I would be...
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
thanks for this post louis, i've been looking for something like it since monday when i was trying to tell people to keep and even keel when the news rocked the boat
- Chris Heath
Very insightful, Louis!
- Anne Bouey
Great post Louis. Hopefully they will have some control over the state of the site under new management.
- anna sauce
Louis, I'm having great problems finding my older posts this week - e.g. hostels & hotels for NYC travel, dance classes in NYC. Don't know what's happening at FriendFeed, but I saw some signs of this in the past few weeks - icons for pictures that can't be found. Flaky searches for old pictures. (Posted the picture problem to FriendFeed Feedback 1-2 weeks ago). Real hassle - I had to go...
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- Mitchell Tsai
I hope FB doesn't mess with FF, keep it as it and improve on it, being a newbie to FF I'am beginning to get a hang of all its features and I use it a lot more now.
- Raymundo Roxas
possitive attitude is generally a good thing, but this is only a wishful thinking...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Just hope Friendfeed at least stays the way it is, untouched. Better than to see it go.
- Paul Papadimitriou
from iPhone
Excellent post Louis. Well written, informative, and speaks to the thought and fears that many of us had last week. Thanks.
- Roberto Bonini
Good overview Louis
- Charlie Anzman
hear hear LG
- Thomas Power
On the head. You hit the nail.
- Raphael, Raphael
part of the thing that appealed to me about friendfeed, was that it was independent. Louis how do you feel about blogging for Facebook?
- Robert Higgins
Thanks for the comments, all. And Dobromir, I would chalk up my comments to more than wishful thinking.
- Louis Gray
Mushroom cloud big? Kidding...
- Fossil Huntress
Amin Louis Amin!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
first day at Facebook ? hope you will love it /-)
- Nicolas Voisin
MmmmHmmmm... - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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The sea should look alike everywhere, shouldn't it? Yet, somehow this could not be one of the seas I have seen yet. The sun is shining on the small waves in a very particular way, the colour of the water on the beach is a subtle green. And the clouds? I don't know if I have seen this kind of sky in Europe.
- Detlef Cordes
alexdc: Eric Cantor of Grameen quoted on what mobiles and Internet mean to people in Africa http://bit.ly/4yg99w via @katrinskaya - http://twitter.com/alexdc...
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Retweeting Is Cheating, Thread The Conversation - http://www.joedawsons.com/2009...
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obey Louis
- Thomas Power
Agreed. I think I mentioned this on Twitter a couple of days ago, as well.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Good People, Bad Companies: The Intersection of Skill and Luck - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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Soros sees no bottom for world financial collapse - http://www.reuters.com/article...
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""We witnessed the collapse of the financial system," Soros said at a Columbia University dinner. "It was placed on life support, and it's still on life support. There's no sign that we are anywhere near a bottom.""
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
And what's the bad news?
- Michael Fidler
This is very disturbing. :(
- Susan Beebe
Michael, the bad news is: we are living inside this system that is currently on life support.
- Detlef Cordes
Soros is definitely more entertaining than Buffett for his sound bytes.
- Cole Jolley
That's what scares me most. It's not a recession/depression - it's finding the bottom to this thing so people can quit worrying so much about how bad it's going to get and start thinking towards how to get better from it.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Why would we wait to reach the bottom before we start fixing it? Are we that lazy/masochistic?
- deusdiabolus
But what's the fix? We are living inside a system on life support, with multi organ failure - but to we have a diagnosis? Do we know the exact causes? Money glut? Savings glut?
- Detlef Cordes
there is no fix, the system has failed. the replacement is already in place, but the banks and brokerages wont acknowledge this because they are not part of the new system, of course politicians and governments will continue to fund proejcts and electoral promises with hollow instruments of credit for a few quarters yet, this too will end.cash rich societies and governments are already...
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- atul abraham
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atul abraham, please help me: I don't see that replacement. Where is the real collateral? Real estate? Short term credit? For whom? The US government?
- Detlef Cordes
I'm in Atul's camp. Sounds like the solution is increased ownership to step in where decay is most severe.
- Mike Reynolds
Hey postlinearity. Would you like to share what this new paradigm is about?
- Detlef Cordes
And yes the other paradigm is that people will be less likely to overspend.
- Mike Reynolds
I don't understand the point of the article. So tell us something we DON'T know? "Experts" that don't offer solutions or directions <<<
- Mona Nomura
Mona, you might find this article interesting and disturbing: http://www.kitco.com/ind...
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
I've been sharing Putin articles since I started FriendFeed but no one seems to find them interesting. South America is another to watch, too. This is nothing new (to me).
- Mona Nomura
here is how i see it - 1 ) consumerism based on credit write -offs = NOT GOOD 2 ) govt.s ( like the US and the UK govt ) issueing credit notes dependent on a workforce out of work, dependent on brands that arent solvent, dependent on home prices that nobody can afford, isnt only plain crazy, it is suicidal -- TARP and the entire stimuls package is life - support to a body that has...
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- atul abraham
from twhirl
post cut short - thats cool - Detlef, just use google its all out there, thnx,
- atul abraham
from twhirl
The US govt. are a bunch of morons. I'm still stuck on WHY they approved a bail-out for AIG. They have 10is subsidiaries they could've sold off. And what's going on with small businesses? No love for them, either. Whatever - I choose not to care since they're so dumb it's annoying.
- Mona Nomura
The US (and perhaps other countries) has been living well beyond our means for nearly 30 years. No one quite understands how the advent of easy credit and a "me, now" culture has created a massive ponzi scheme of our own making. One Trillion dollars in US revolving debt! It's simply not sustainable and the tipping point has finally come. Stimulus is like spitting into a hurricane. This is going to take years, not months.
- AJ Kohn
AJ - it's what our country was built on. We're a capitalistic society filled with the "me me me" mentality.
- Mona Nomura
@Mona: True. But we didn't give that society the ability to indulge in "me me me" until the late 70s. Credit Cards, easy credit and lower taxes all created an army of Gordon Geckos who believed over-extending was the new American way.
- AJ Kohn
AJ gets it.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
RIght - so it's intertwined. It's only natural to be greedy and only a matter of time until those desires were enabled. Reagan was one of the worst things to happen to this country. Opening up trade? Are you kidding me? Ugh, I'm sorry but I have to hide this thread. Thinking about this is going to ruin my day.
- Mona Nomura
@aj: actually, as i understand it, credit cards are just the encapsulation of a concept that began right after WWII: buying things on "time." in order to get the economy going again after the war, banks and retailers introduced this concept. before then, other than homes, people didn't usually buy things unless they could pay in cash. the credit card just simplified this buy now, pay later process...which is now abused.
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@ LAG: teh way to kick start the " world economy " post WW2 was to make massive consumerism easier, it wasnt just credit, it was malls coming to your bakyard, it was instant shipping, it was Asian sweatshops, it was Africas un ending need for weaponary leading to massive defence contracts, ... it was a blunt thrust at world dominance that American Inc. screwed up royally : ). WMDs in Iraq and all.
- atul abraham
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@atul... i agree: making mass consumerism easier was the post WWII goal. and i think that the massive financial problems that we're dealing with right now ask the next question: what do you do after mass consumerism stops working? i won't completely blame America for this: the leaders in your Asias and Africas and Iraqs, and elsewhere, are equally complicit.
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@ .LAG - to me its very simple - a Vietnamese or Indian, or Chinese software programmer ( my profession ) will not only charge 10 % of a programmer in the EU ( where i live and work ) but also TRULY kick ass. helping Asia and Africas´ poorer parts to compete internationally will lay the foundation for a new generation of companies that do " micro-profits " for each employee, not massive...
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- atul abraham
from twhirl
errata : time, PS : its half past 8 pm here, i have a Monday that starts at 5 am tmrw. saving the wolds ass has GOT to wait. good night.
- atul abraham
from twhirl
our society is based on debt, what did they think would happen? don't borrow money you don't have, simple.
- Adam Singer
Get rid of fractional reserve banking... move to full reserve banking..issue greenbacks to grow the economy without increasing debt. Printing money at the same time you raise the reserve requirement for banks to lend money from 10% to 100% cancels out the risk of hyperinflation.
- Patty Seybold
that Putin-on-white-horse-in-Davos story ... puhleeeeeeeeese... ask mr.Khodorkovsky, he will tell you rest-of-story - right after (and IF ever) gets out, stripped from billion estate...
- A.T.
he's right
- Bob Sonin
@postlinearity so there's no hope for US economy then? Millions aren't likely to change unless in face of major catastrophe... economic or some other kind.
- andrei_c
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." ~Albert Einstein
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This is nice. Lieutenant Commander Data would short-circuit. Reminds me of the allmighty God creating a stone so big he can't jump over it. And of course: former President Ronald Reagan.
- Detlef Cordes
Buddhist monk Matthieu Ricard joins the Davos Debates - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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"My experience has been that developing an extensive reach allows for us to find the relationships that can grow some depth. Being consistent in our posture within these networks is important because moving forward, as thousands get a brief snapshot of your presence, you want to make sure that those with similar interests will latch on, a bit like those burrs that catch on your pants when walking through the prairie. My goal is to cultivate one meaningful relationship per week amongst the thousands of connections."
- Richard Reeve
To be consistent is really difficult for me. The philosophic and spiritual themes are very important to me - but I love a rough joke, even within these realms. I like to let the fantasy flow and to create nonsense - and to talk economics in the next post. Difficult to integrate. Difficult to dispense with some part of myself.
- Detlef Cordes
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