Should be. Google's mobile maps app for Palm (and iPhone) is built using GWT. Though I don't know how much of the Mojo framework they used. Probably not much, given that it runs on the iPhone as well.
- Joel Webber
I send a DM to Dion Almaer, I'm waiting for its response...
- Didier Girard
"As part of this change, developers will be able to provide screenshots, promotional icons and descriptions that will better show off applications and games. We have also added four new sub-categories for applications: sports, health, themes, and comics."
- Tom Stocky
from Bookmarklet
This improvement is welcomed, but I would have prefered an API that helps me to build my own market. Could you simply imagine a world where there will be only one identical shop for all countries, for all cultures, for all ages, for all products ? Sorry, I can't. Give us an API, it will help the community to build the success of the Android plateform.
- Didier Girard
I think it's unfair to make a comparison when the iPhone was out for over a year before the first Android phone. It must also be noted that we don't know how many iPhone devs were locked out because of Apple's inconsistent review policies.
- James Williams
I want an API for the MarketPlace then I will be able to build my own. This MarketPlace would not be better or worst than Google one, it will simply be different : that's the internet, that's the web.
- Didier Girard
(selon Lex, qui est assis a coté de moi)
- Joel Webber
Merci Joel, je transmets ton message a l'auteur et lui demande de te repondre.
- Didier Girard
Merci Joel ! J'avais effectivement mal formulé cette phrase, que j'ai donc remplacé par "travaille également pour Sun à la production..." ;-)
- François Goldgewicht
In most OECD "rich" countries, birthrates are below the replacement rate of 2.1 per couple. If all countries followed this path, the earth would be saved, because in a few generations, human civilization would be gone. I'd like the earth to be saved, because it's a home for humanity, with human civilization gone, that justification somewhat disappears and the argument is to save it, even if no sentient intelligent life is left to observe it. :)
- Ray Cromwell
But a little below replacement rate doesn't seem like a terribly bad thing right now. I'm pretty sure that if the population dropped a bit for a few generations, we would naturally settle at a more stable global population (and fertility rates would rise back to or above replacement), probably oscillating a bit. ~6 billion seems like a hell of a lot of people to me...
- Joel Webber
I think that human population will stop growing. If it is not by conscientiousness, other factor will act.
- Didier Girard
In many OECD countries, it's almost 50% below the replacement rate. Without mass immigration or massive productivity increases, they'll be a huge crisis for social welfare. Typically, these studies measure the carbon footprint of Westerners, but that's declining. The real problem is the developing world which is combining rapid economic growth with rapid population growth.
- Ray Cromwell
A dropping population rate can be countered by an increasing automation rate. The core problem with this is the inherently closed-source nature of such profitable ideas as factories that run with humans needed mostly for robot-supervision, and our wealth-sharing techniques that make the deprecation and obsoletion of repetitive-tasks harmful to potentially millions of employees.
- Alyxandor James Aristocle
...Imagine how many people would be out of a job if some shiny new software made secretaries / bureaucratic pencil-pusher obsolete? ...If only we had some kind of free job-reeducation system to teach new trades to displaced workers, and some form of profit sharing / subsidizing that could unlock so many amazing, patented technologies, to reduce the need for cut-throat business ethics by...
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- Alyxandor James Aristocle
Sérieusement, je me souviens qu'il avait fait tout un foin quand il avait changer de pseudo, mais de la à réservé tout les loicXXXX .... quelqu'un en sait plus ?
- Nicolas Gosset
Loic Le Meur a atteint le statut de pipole du web.... Même le gars il dirait oups j'ai laché un pet, que y'aurais des commentateurs pour dire "il dénigre son concurrent", "il parait que il a une maladie rare des intestins", "il n'aime pas le restaurant de sushis de San Francisco", "RT @Loic j'ai pété", "Le jour où Loic Le Meur péta". M'impressionne ;-)
- Emgenius
ouauw avec le nombre de commentateurs ici... si on se démerde bien on pourrait même lancer un Lemeurgate ... qui connait l'adresse de Jean Marc Morandini?
- Emgenius
Les gars, c'est juste une blague de Loïc, faut arrêter de dire n'importe quoi et de faire des réflexion foireuse !
- Etienne Servant
mouais vas-y prouve le ;-) Il t'a payé combien d'abord pour que tu te rétractes avec un post amical ;-)
- Emgenius
oui c'est probablement une blague de LLM... attendons sa réaction avant de lui tirer dessus
- Nicolas Gosset
from IM
vite vite l'adresse de Morandiniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
- Emgenius
LLM envoie des reply twitter, FriendFeed démarre la conversation !
- Alexandre
from IM
bon si je prends mon manuel du bon cafard 2.O: 1) je lance la rumeur "LLM se la pète et interdit les loic du web" 2) Je fais un post en ce sens et je spamme l'adresse de mon blog pour booster mes adsense et ma notoriété 3) Je fais un montage de moi avec LLM style je le connais bien et c'est pour ça que ça me fait encore plus mal ce qu'il est devenu 4) On appelle Morandini 5) Je me fais...
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- Emgenius
Marrant, même si c'était vrai, comme à la bourse, c'est le poids des achats/ventes qui oriente le marché... c'est à dire la réalité. C'est donc une blague. ouf! (mourire)²
- Luc Comeau-Montasse
Sûr que l'on ne peut déposer un prénom, sûr aussi que @loic a trouvé un nouveau moyen de faire parler de lui qui marche très bien. Au passage, la supériorité de FriendFeed sur Twitter pour le développement d'une conversation se voit bien, elle aussi.
- Emmanuel Gadenne
on doit pouvoir réserver un nom sur Twitter si on a déja un droit dessus, dans la vrais vie. Tu as des preuves de ce que tu avances ?
- Nicolas Gosset
from IM
@emmanuelgadenne par exemple, Cauet a déposé son nom. Et si on veut faire des choses dans le même domaine que Cauet, et qu'on s'appelle Cauet, on ne peut pas.
- Alexandre
from IM
bon ça sent le fake / troll / buzz .... ou FAIL ;) mais on a déjà vu des dépôts de marque très limite, non ? je pense à une couleur entre le jaune et le rouge par exemple ... quoi qu'il en soit la seule trademark que je vois c'est celle-là: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin... LOL
- Steph (sh_skew)
euh ben si chez moi quand je clique ça marche tsé
- Emgenius
This is so stupid Loic. You can't trademark a boy's name. You can *maybe* do it for loiclemeur which would be your personal brand, but someone else will be born with that name at some point. If you want to be like scobleizer, try loicmeister :) P.S. love the accent...no joke.
- Mohamed J
Notre ami c'est bien américanisé, car l'info est vraie. Il la reprend même en direct sur Twitter en se moquant des "frenchies" - http://u.nu/2dqs. Mais en bon français, il tire sur le pianiste ;-) Je rappelle l'affaire Milka, ou une pauvre couturière s'est vu obligée de supprimer son enseigne, son site internet, car elle s'appelait Milka, et que la marque de chocolat l'a attaquée en...
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- Barrabé
on en est à près de 50 commentaires. Autour d'un truc super trivial.... euh vivement que quelq'un lance un sujet de société qu'on fasse péter le commentaire: "Pierre Moscovici a-t-il posté lui même sa lettre à Martine Aubry? L'a-t-il parfumée avant de la cacheter?"
- Emgenius
Ah non, ce n'est pas trivial. Ca relance le débat sur la propriété intellectuel, peut-on réserver un prénom ? Est ce moralement condamnable ?
- Nicolas Gosset
from IM
On est tous des Loic, changez votre user name ;)
- Alexandre
from IM
Ca me rappel que l'iPhone est interdit en Chine en raison de la similarité entre la marque iPhone d'Apple et i-phone de Huanwang Technologie ;-)
- Seynaeve
Il faut sauver le soldat @loic_d (suivez le pour lui permettre de survivre à cette attaque par déni de prénom) :-)
- Emmanuel Gadenne
Loic avec ou sans tréma ? Faut déposer les deux Loïc ! Mais les américains vont avoir du mal.
- Max Gilmour
D'après Wikipédia, Loïc est l’ancienne forme provençale de Louis. La consonance Bretonne, ainsi que la proximité de Loïc avec Loïg (Version armoricaine de Guillaume, utilisé depuis le XIIIe siècle), a trompé jusqu’aux Bretons eux-mêmes. En Goëlo ou dans le Léon, les jeunes Johnies qui partaient en Cornouaille ou dans les Aglos Normandes pour travailler les champs, lorsqu'ils se...
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- Emmanuel Gadenne
tellement évident que Loïc s'amuse à titiller ceux qui ne comprendront pas que c'est du second degré. De toutes façons, on peut toujours déposer : le dépôt ne signifie pas que la marque soit valide. Elle peut toujours être contestée via une action en déchéance. Et ce qui vaut pour loïc vaut pour les "rue du". On peut considérer qu'il y a une originalité à assimiler "rue du" avec de la vente sur internet
- Koz
putain truc de ouf y'a François Krug qui est passé à la phase 1 de mon manuel du cafard 2.0 http://eco.rue89.com/hoax... merde c'est moi qui devait devenir un star sur ce coup tin françois fait chier
- Emgenius
quoi que je peux encore me ratrapper si je publie une photo de moi à côté de la photo dévoilée de @loic .... et le prétendre gay.... ah merde moi aussi alors... ca vend bien d'être Gay? Non pour le livre après....
- Emgenius
en l'espace de 15h > 70 commentaires sur FF, des articles sur le net, des discussions sur Twitter bref... c'est fou comme il est facile de déclencher du buzz lorsqu'on a un brin de notoriété. Fallait juste y penser... Clap Clap... :)
- All for design
Ne le croyez pas!!! J'ai vérifié "Loic" est bien déposé sur la zone kazakhstan/Laponie. A coup sûr le point de départ d'une invasion globale.
- jerome choain
Hé ben j'avais raté ça moi dis-donc ! Hallucinant !!!! Je vais déposer mon prénom moi aussi tiens !
- Lucile Reynard
LLM lance un fil et tout le monde se jette dessus (moi y compris) / allez, hop, tout le monde chez moi ☼ http://friendfeed.com/bonjour... pour un petit café-déca-digestif-poire-prune-etc.
- laurent des fraises
Mdr les Loïcs vont devoir payer des droits d'auteurs..............
- MENATWORK
J'avais oublié ce côté faux jeton spéculant (comme les américains pour le dollar) sur la valeur acquise. Il suffit qu'il débarque avec sa fausse vraie fausse vraie fausse mise en demeure ... pour que je me souvienne ce qui s'est passé dans la blogosphère. Loïc, relis tes premiers post, retrouve un peu de fraîcheur, et essaie de pas nous tuer tout de suite cette nouvelle planète. Merci !
- Luc Comeau-Montasse
Si l'objectif était qu'on parle de lui, c'est plutôt réussi !
- Maxime grandjean
I need serious help with FF. For an idiot like me this isn't so intuitive really. Help section is nice but I need someone to hold my hand ..bleeech. Don't get me wrong I am sorry I was reluctant to try FF before
- cheapsuits
I blame Scoble. It's always his fault :-)
- Keith Barrett
but how am I going to tell the world I need a cup of tea???? nooooooo
- Rachel Clarke
Giorgio - I'm seeing some activity through the Twitter API, too (that's what TweetDeck uses, I believe); not a lot, but some
- Robert J Taylor
I thought it was just my connection. ;-) I'm also having problems with Facebook today.
- Timothy Federwitz
yeah, it seems the web interface is down but the api is working..
- Giorgio
I think the social media experts are going to spend the next hour talking about Twitter being down
- Keith Barrett
Scoble's followers where the glue keeping Twitter together! now that he's 'pulled the pin' and released them all, Twitter has fallen down and can't get up.
- MikeAmundsen
Seems to me like some sort of an (DDoS) attack on Twitter and Facebook.
- Jari Hakkarainen
I'm so lost this morning without my cup-o-Twitter
- frank barry
You broke it Bob! All this follow/unfollow madness.
- ZuDfunck
They'll comment on it, much like I just did.
- Marlin Forbes
Yiorgas: read a book for a change? I do that anyway, but only about 10/month. need more twitter time to balance it out
- Rachel Clarke
Facebook is copying twitter too closely...even to going down at the same time
- Robert Littlejohn
Does Twitter have what it takes to be a big player? We've been working with their API on a project and every time there is something out of whack. Anyone else have the same issues?
- Chris Nadeau
twitter is really down, I think twitter itself should have a site that tweets when it's down :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
They will use FF to inform their friend that twitter is down
- Didier Girard
This is very interesting that it is impacting more than one social network ... can't even speculate what the cause is yet. Not getting much work done today I'm afraid, going to be following these conversations..
- Joe Magennis
I haven't been on twitter for days. I guess I picked the wrong morning to jump back in.
- Jeff Stannard
Robert: The most important question>> How many new sign-ups for FF today?
- K.N. Ajit Narayan
GUILTY ! I have had a FF account for awhile just never used it--
- cheapsuits
What the celebrities like you do. Talk about it on Twitter.
- Tad Chef
This actually made me laugh out loud, because I was thinking the same thing!
- Dan
This kind of reminds me of a line from Office Space: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Shit. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail."
- Jari Hakkarainen
Could this mean that CNBC was right??? Nooooooooooo!
- Travis Koger
I was planning to unfollow a bunch of followers due to Twitter's follow limit rule kicking in at the ~#2000 user level. I have to wait with that then... ;)
- Martin Lindeskog
Twitter being down is a a relief to me this morning! Now I can stay OFF it rather than fitting it into every 30 second change of task! n
- Arleen Anderson
at this rate they will have to start sending out junk mail via the post office again... oh the humanity
- Terry Bruce
I feel like we are all stranded on a tropical Island together
- Jeff Wiant
was afraid for a moment that out IT blocked all social networks or something horrible like that. Thank god FF came back up quickly. This might have gotten me to use FF more. I often neglect it.
- Ryan Cummins
Wondered why tweetdeck wasn't loading anything. actually got some programming work done. lol
- Justin Long
twits will move, but only until twitter is back online, then there will be a mass exodus. Remember during all of the 2007/2008 fail whales users still flocked back to it regardless.
- Travis Koger
Twitter, Facebook, now Posterous... 4chan organize an attack or something?
- Sam Harrelson
from IM
took inordinate amount of time to get into ff today as well
- A Zmaj
Hmmm DoS attack...someone wanting a ransom from Twitter?
- Mike Gargano
Guess they'll have to either pick up the phone or do some work :)
- Graham Bunting
Can someone with 94k followers really mock the the celebs and experts devoid of Twitter?
- Augie Ray
Hey, no bogus follow messages in my inbox for a while! ;-)
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
This is teaching us something about the framework of the current Internet traffic patterns. We're watching cascade scale problems from one major Internet program going down.
- Melanie Reed
Facebook is giving up the ol', "Transport error (#1001) while retrieving data from endpoint `/ajax/inline_comments.php': A network error occurred. Check that you are connected to the internet" message now.
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
I think this is bigger than Twitter and FB... I think it's some interweb routes or something. I had a VoIP call going with a party local to me and two across the country and I lost the two across the country, but maintained the local party. And others are commenting on other sites showing signs of outages.
- Timothy Federwitz
from Alert Thingy
Yeah, had all the characteristics of a DDoS attack. What do perpetrators of such attacks get from doing that, I've never understood.
- Jari Hakkarainen
The real bummer for me is, now I actually have to listen to the radio to get the word of the day!
- Travis Owen
is twitter connected with FB or Friendfeed? I am having page errors with both, Ajax issues with FB intermittently , I am no tech geek so I have no clue whats up and come here to learn
- lisa coultrup
Maybe Ev's interview on the BBC last night didn't go down well with the Iranians!
- Andrew
from iPod
Tracing route to twitter.com [168.143.162.100] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.16.1.1 2 25 ms 29 ms 28 ms lo1.br57.fra.de.hansenet.net [213.191.64.45] 3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms ae1-252.prju01.fra.de.hansenet.net [62.109.64.13 7] 4 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms fra32-hansenet-3.fra.seabone.net [89.221.34.61] 5 120 ms 119 ms 195 ms ash1-new50-racc1.ash.seabone.net [195.22.206.2] 6 125 ms...
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- Zalt Woo
Ev coming onto the BBC last night and saying that they were asked by the US Goverment to keep Twitter up and running during the Iranian protests cannot have gone down well in Tehran!
- Andrew
from iPod
DoS on large portions of the internet. Is this 4Chan... Chinese... N. Korea... durkadurkastan...
- Ryan Cummins
now having trouble getting to Friendfeed
- Justin Long
look, few days ago Clinton back home with two imprisoned american journalists from North Korea and today Korea is attacking twitter? it is revenge)))
- obolonskyi
maybe Robert's great unFollowing crashed the servers... no loss! Go FF
- Jay Shapiro
from BuddyFeed
As I said, I predict a baby-boom in 9 months... wait and see!
- Jordi Soler
SEO Experts can analyze their charts, celebrities and wannabe's can entertain us with video (maybe some cool Twitter Whore like stuff) , and social media experts can quickly become Fail Whale Experts.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
@Lee Provost don't you thing you're going to be a little apocaliptic ? :-)
- Filippo Ronco
Twitter downing has to be a lesson for all of us. if sometimes gmail or even google will be down. what we all are going to do in that situation???
- obolonskyi
@Filippo i've been suprised many times that reality is often more wacked up than the conspiracy theories of geeks :-p
- Lee Provoost
I'm hoping the social media experts go away and do something useful.
- Parvez Halim
@Jordi LOL, considering that there are a vast amount of single male computer geeks out there in the twitter community, baby boom effect might be negligible :-D
- Lee Provoost
what is bad here? here doesnt exist reply button =(
- obolonskyi
The realtime updates of the comments is great. FF rulez. Would be better though to have the comment link not on top
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
@Lee single male computer geeks - LOL))
- obolonskyi
AAANND.. it's back. At least for a moment I guess..
- Alex Schleber
AAANND it's GONE! ..Again. At least I managed to send out a quick FriendFeed SOS, as in: "Still think you shouldn't have all of your favorite tweeps in a "backup system" on FriendFeed? Join here: www.friendfeed.com/alexschleber "
- Alex Schleber
Either collapse or back to use their phones in voice only mode, do some shopping, get eye to eye contact ... Blame god, and then. Give a serious try on FF ;p
- Marco ILLESCAS
from iPhone
They will still be able to Tweet to themselves - not sure if they will realize it is down until it comes back up.
- Phil Harrison
What will the blackhat SEO experts, the SM spammers, and the social media experts do during a widespread outage? The answer is obvious: While sitting out the crisis they're fine-tuning their methodology. Seriously, your question offends me. There's a gazillion of SEO experts out there who do not abuse social media.
- Sebastian
Sebastian there can't be a gazillion SEO experts! What's 10,000 keywords times 20?? (and that's being generous!)
- Arleen Anderson
Would a social media expert consider it to be a crisis? If they rely so heavily on just one or two tools that it's enough to throw them into a tizzy, their expert status would seem to me to be ... questionable, at best.
- Gord McLeod
Arleen, 10,000 keyword phrases times 20 is a tiny fraction of the search terms that are worth optimizing for. Think of the long tail. Also, consider lots of webmasters and even publishers / site owners / bloggers / Web developers ... SEO experts who are able to optimize their stuff quite successfully but don't sell or publish their expertise. Many of them, and even many SEO consultants, do make sensible use of social media, as plain users.
- Sebastian
Gord, in a social media spammer's book 2 hours of outage, IOW 2 hours w/o sales from sneakily distributed links to questionable sales pitches, can sum up to way more than a good day's beer money. ;) However, "crisis" might be a term too strong for this potential loss.
- Sebastian
Arleen: yes, reading this is fun. Sebastien SEO types are so easy to wind up. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Gotta love it... @RobCairns says "come to Friend Feed? Not" and then his page shows ONE POST from Twitter in the past 18 hours! And that one talks about how Twitter seems to be slowing down again! (Sorry Rob, but that's just too good to let pass!)
- Mark Jepsen
Robert, admit it, you broke Twitter by massively unfollowing people. The DDoS attack reports have just been a ruse to cover up the fact that you were the backbone of Twitter all this time.
- Louis Trapani
Keep running into the wall a few times then find alternate outlets such as ff, linkedIn, etc...
- Kirsten Mitchell
from iPhone
Looks like the devious plan to move everyone to FF is working well. LOL :)
- Geer
Ha! The whole Facebook Twitter slowdown may have been just people clicking on spam (not a DDoS botnet). How funny! Manual DDoS. See Bill Woodcock's theory at CNet, AP, SF Gate, and The Register http://ff.im/6gLmO
- Mitchell Tsai
There you go again implying the only ones that use twitter is SEO experts, the celebrities, the spammers, the bots, and the social media experts - This is definitely SPIN. Perhaps you should join CNN also LOL
- RetiredTeacherD
Ironic, given your status as a celebrity social media expert who constantly spams about bots... :-P
- David Kettler
Now they'll have time to shower and do their laundry!
- Ron Hagenhoff
Ron, oh man, I hope the infrastructure will survive this :)
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Je pense que c'est dommage d'abandonner l'architecture cloud computing. Si l'application a maintenant uniquement pour but de dorer un CV, je pense que c'est le sujet qu'il faut continuer de creuser. Pour le reste, le plus dur dans un projet est d'attirer des personnes qui vont donner de leur temps pour le faire progresser. Il faut donc toujours chercher a repondre a la question : "Pourquoi des personnes depenseraient-elles du temps pour m'aider ?".
- Didier Girard
Je n'abandonne pas le cloud computing définitivement. je dis juste que choisir l'appEngine fut une erreur stratégique. Si l'appli marche, j'irai chez Amazone :-P... Plus sérieusement, J'ai ressenti que l'appEngine Java est actuellement ce qu'étais GWT a ses début. Un environnement difficile à manipuler avec beaucoup de travail manuel. Il s'agit peut être d'une erreur de jeunesse qui sera corrigée dans des versions futures du SDK. Je l'espère car c'est à contre coeur que je l'abandonne.
- Arnaud Weber
Je crois qu'il s'agit d'un stack overflow. Les antivirus n'y peuvent pas grand chose. Ca me rappelle le temps, ou il etait possible de passer du code machine dans une URL pour prendre le controle d'un navigateur :-)
- Didier Girard
:-), I think it will be much harder.
- Didier Girard
I would very much like that. It's a bit harder to do it "properly" in the GWT context, because Scala compiles to bytecode -- but the constructs it generates would likely not map very well back to Javascript without significant work. Whereas Scala source would cross-compile very cleanly to Javascript (e.g., lambdas, pattern matching, and the like).
- Joel Webber
Je trouve Fred généralement très bien informé. Echos est le dernier truc du moment, faut comprendre. Mais il me semble que Fred n'a jamais considéré sérieusement Friendfeed (1 like). Il y a pourtant FF dans ses screenshots. Il ne va pas tarder je pense, s'il expérimente un peu tout ça.
- Jérôme Flipo
Si je n'ai pas cité FF, c'est parceque je parle avant tout des ervices d'agrégation de commentaires sur mon billet. Pour info j'ai déjà rédigé un article sur les lifestream l'année dernière : http://www.fredcavazza.net/2008...
- Fred CAVAZZA
Bon maintenant je me pose la question de savoir comment intégrer FF de façon plus efficace à mes blogs...
- Fred CAVAZZA
De mon cote, je regarde actuellement comment utiliser Wave pour mettre en place un systeme de commentaires. Je pense que c'est possible.
- Didier Girard
Didier, je suis impatient de pouvoir tester ça. Malheuresement, j'ai fait l'erreur de demander mon compte pour développer un robot qui me prendrait que qques semaines: en spécifiant plusieurs mois, j'aurais déjà reçu mon invitiation.
- Jérôme Flipo
C'est vrai que si Wave cartonne, toute cette excitation "Friendfeed" fera long feu. M'enfin, on va pas se plaindre de voir la blogosphère française s'essayer avec la technologie dernier cri!
- Jérôme Flipo
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- Didier Girard
from email