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Facebook Exodus - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

August 28, 2009 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"Things fall apart; the center cannot hold. Facebook, the online social grid, could not command loyalty forever. If you ask around, as I did, you’ll find quitters. One person shut down her account because she disliked how nosy it made her. Another thought the scene had turned desperate. A third feared stalkers. A fourth believed his privacy was compromised. A fifth disappeared without a word" - chaz2b from Bookmarklet

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I could see myself doing this. - Derrick

What a weird article. I mean, I detest Facebook with a passion, but those people seemed to just lack boundaries and the knowledge to use the site. If you approve an application to post to Facebook, then yeah...when you rate a movie via that application, it's going to post to Facebook. Duh. - Anika

they'll be back. - Mike Nencetti

I'm getting deluged with requests from aunts, cousins, etc. That is not at all why I joined Facebook. - Ben Hanten

Fred Wilson has an interesting counterpoint to this article: http://www.avc.com/a_vc... . But, visitors don't tell the whole story either, particularly with Twitter (where number of accounts also has way less bearing than FB). Interesting pointers at the end of the NYT article: "You’re not the first to think it’s creepy to have your personal life commercialized.... more... - Tinfoil 2.0

Louis Gray

Reminder: The Five Stages Of Early Adopter Behavior (See Stage 4: Entitlement) - http://louisgray.com/live...

August 9, 2009 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"At this point, often in part due to favorable feedback from the service's authors, the early adopter feels a sense of entitlement, that the product absolutely must be architected in the way they say so, even if to move in that direction wouldn't serve the larger installed base. Now, instead of suggesting quick ways the service could update, the calls are more like ultimatums, and if not quickly seeing a response, the early adopter can get extremely frustrated, at times, seeing this annoyance bubble up to the same degree their first comments on the product reeked of praise." - Louis Gray from Bookmarklet

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Re: This. http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... The feedback is predictable. - Louis Gray

I get the feeling the Robert has jumped the shark a little bit here. I hope he apologizes to Kevin for his uncalled for ad hominem. - Brian Sullivan

This is great, but I think it ALSO applies to less than diplomatic responses from early adopters that I go back to Twitter, ha. I don't take it personally, but your point is a nice reminder that it is not about me. - Liza + = ?

science. - Josh Haley from iPhone

I may be the only early adopter that doesn't feel entitled to anything - Bwana ☠

Then again, I'm not your average human - Bwana ☠

Ever since I posted this, I'm self-aware about potentially slipping from a 3 to a 4, so I think twice about posting criticism without knowing the deciding factors. - Louis Gray

Hah! Looking in mirror. Seeing egg on face. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I feel entitled to type in this box and push the button named "comment." Sorry, I thought that was what FriendFeed was designed for. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I don't know that entitlement is the right word. For me, at least, it's more frustration. Here you have this great product. I want more people to know about it, but I'm having issues, be it my tech, user error or just loss of features, it's frustrating. If I'm having these issues, then there's no way I'll be able to explain to my friends and family why things are why they are. When you... more... - Anika

One point to the one above. I know that many companies who offer free service will or should charge for use at some point. I'm okay with that, but when they mess with functionality it's hard to justify paying for it. When your users are asking for the same thing over and over again, especially when you're in beta, don't give them a useless feature that offers nothing much to usability. At that point, it's hard to justify the ongoing use of something, let alone paying for it in the future. - Anika

Is it entitlement or ownership? People support what they help build, right? So maybe it is partly a sense of ownership... - Liza + = ?

Great conversation thread... Rule #1 if you do not own it, then do not falsely allow yourself to believe your vote will ever - or should ever - count. Sometimes the developers listen to your sound words of device, but in my humble findings often this waxes and wanes. Rule #2 is that step 5 is your alternative. Rule #3 is always see Rule #1 when you begin to think your opinion matters ;-) - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

Robert. No harm, no foul. :) I'm just glad I wrote this one already last year, so I don't have to do it again. - Louis Gray

its a pretty graph and perhaps it is true, i have experienced it myself through mmos, beta testing, but did you actually have numbers or is this just instinct? - Robert Higgins

By the way, I'm ACTIVELY still in the promotion phase. I'm showing FriendFeed to EVERYONE as everyone I met in Boulder last week can attest to. That's one thing that Louis' graph doesn't understand. I go through all of these phases IN PARALLEL. Not serially. So, deal with it. :-) - Robert Scoble

The graph is simple. People are not simple. :) The downside to acting like a #4 is dorks looking for an excuse tend to use it as an excuse. Just wait. (Not even Scoble likes FriendFeed any more... he says... "x") So don't give the bastards any ammo. :) - Louis Gray

Louis what is the oldest service that you still use that you didn't migrate from and why? - Robert Higgins

Interestingly, those seeking to distill life into simplistic terms can be dangerous. Like those dorks who spout off non-sensical rules ;-) - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

I do think it is used as ammo, which stinks, b/c a discussion we should have (UI on FF) becomes a territorial battle. There were great points made, but also a lot of juvenile comments which I hope are ignored. As I learned in my first online attack, "don't feed the trolls". They are everywhere and not unique to specific networks. - Liza + = ?

for me the oldest service i still use is hotmail. - Robert Higgins

Robert: you didn't ask me, but I'll answer anyway: Outlook/Exchange. Although that has changed a lot over the years but I first started using whatever Microsoft called it (MSMail?) back in 1993. Regarding newer web services? Flickr. Wordpress. Google Reader are probably the ones that have had the longest staying power. - Robert Scoble

Louis: yeah, but if I worried about what dorks think I would just stay off the Internet. :-) - Robert Scoble

thought about why and the stages of the graph. while i still use hotmail, for family and things i have migrated to gmail mostly. I personally never did step 4 with hotmail, but i did get buddies on it a long time ago before they even had their own computers. It was cool to promote hotmail and messenger in the 90's felt hip to chat with people in China when I lived in USA. I still like sky-drive for the free 25 gigabytes of online storage, so will probably never migrate. - Robert Higgins

Robert, I still use .Mac mail, and have for a very long time. (Some day I may move to GMail, but not yet). I have stuck with Mac OS through all its iterations from System 6 or so, so I assume that counts. I've been on FriendFeed longer than Twitter, and Facebook longer than FriendFeed and Google Reader longer than Facebook. - Louis Gray

thats interesting, but in term of early adopter and stages where are you now with Mac OS for example. - Robert Higgins

I would say Stage 3 with Mac OS. I don't feel like they need to change anything to reward me for my loyalty. I've never been a Stage 2 user for Twitter, so I hang out in Stage 3 or 4, it's just a utility, as is Facebook. I am Stage 2 and 3 with FriendFeed and Google Reader. I will always push FriendFeed and Google Reader, even if I know they could improve, because I get great value from both and trust the teams. - Louis Gray

Louis: I was through all five stages with the MacOS by 1993. Started over again in 2003. Heheh. I forgot that I still use Hotmail and have for a long time (I remember waiting in line for StarWars #4 overnight with the Hotmail founders and thinking they were pretty cool). - Robert Scoble

you are such a geek scoble waiting in line overnight for Star Wars #4 with hotmail founder - Robert Higgins

Robert: that is true, but, as waiting overnight for the iPhone proved, the line itself was more fun than seeing the movie or getting the phone. In Silicon Valley these things turn into impromptu barcamps. Several companies had tents and it was an all-night party. My son did both with us and they were among the best things I've ever done with him. Good bonding time. :-) - Robert Scoble

Higgins: if I remember right one company even paid for a T-1 line so they could provide wifi to everyone. In Silicon Valley we take these things seriously! :-) - Robert Scoble

Nice bell curve, this typically represents most things - I can be in different stages at different times! - for example - different features of the product (ie I can discover a feature, then promote, etc). Not sure about Migration phase, I would prefer to call it Withdrawal - Geer

I think this post was bad form. I have experienced the same problems with admiring the power and brilliance of the features and simultaneously being confused by their counter intuitiveness. In any case if the graph is accurate Robert's activity would have already slowed and will continue to slow down until migration. The bad form is explicitly referencing Robert. - Ru Viljoen

Ru: thank you. Truth is in just the past week I was in all five phases of FriendFeed and even Twitter. I never liked this post by Louis' even though there's some truth to it and I'm still trying to figure out why. - Robert Scoble

Ru, I know FriendFeed is not perfect. But pound for pound, they have the best talent in the business. I also read and enjoyed the exchange in Robert's piece, but didn't "like" it, as he says he didn't this one. Robert and I have a long history of agreeing 95% of the time, and have a mutual respect that lets us exchange ideas this way. I personally would not have approached the issues in the way he did, explicitly referencing Kevin, for example. - Louis Gray

Louis: Kevin runs design at FriendFeed and he's a guy I've judged that is able to take a huge amount of criticism (earned or unearned) and keep his cool and tell you why he's doing what he's doing. Like you said, they have the best talent in the business. Kevin proved it again yesterday. - Robert Scoble

My 2 cents about FriendFeed interface design: Overloading/hiding of controls is often used to present a simpler UI. It's difficult to find a balance, and often testing things on novice users is better than on veteran users to get a fresh response. One difficult example (which I don't know if I could improve) is Canon's cameras (of which I've used 4 cameras). Canon had a standard way of... more... - Mitchell Tsai

Sometimes interface design can be complicated with people at various stages of behavior. Yahoo! tried to change their interface after a few years and got a "New Coke" response (e.g. focus groups, testing, etc... before release). The new interface worked better & made more sense, but they got 1,000s of e-mail complaints from older experienced users - ended up staying with the old... more... - Mitchell Tsai

Oldest services I still use: MS-DOS (1981), Unix (1982), Mac OS (1984), MS Word (1984), MS Excel (1985), MS Powerpoint (1987), MS Windows (1987), HTML (1993), Yahoo! (1995), PriceWatch (1995), Post.Harvard.edu (1995), Slashdot (1996), MapQuest (1996), Google (1997), Amazon (1998), MS Outlook (1998), Internet Explorer (1998), PriceGrabber (1999), SECInfo (2000), Network Solutions (2000),... more... - Mitchell Tsai

Goodness me Mitchell - Thomas Power

Indeed. Outlook 98 is the devil :) - Roberto Bonini

Thomas - It's interesting to see what "stands the test of time". Used HotBot for search 1996-2000, but Google's cache won me. MS Multiplan was my 1st spreadsheet (not a Lotus 1-2-3 fan), but Excel beat out many better spreadsheets. MS Outlook won me with color e-mails, shared calendars, & event coordination. Google Maps still hasn't beat MapQuest IMO. I'm still resistant to using GMail... more... - Mitchell Tsai

Considering I'm on stage 4 right now, I wonder how much I stand to make from the sale of Friendfeed? - Andrew Smith

Louis, Robert: It makes sense to me that a service would be forced to field speculative criticism and that the criticism should be answered on the merits of the argument. In this instance I thought that Robert insightfully pointed out the problem with the UI and then must have been totally side swiped by an unrelated personal criticism from someone who is well regarded. I hate to see... more... - Ru Viljoen

It's Interesting that you posted this last night, before the friendfeed/FaceBook announcement! Good intuition! - Michael Fidler

Jeremiah Owyang

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June 18, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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I know it might sounds strange, but I have been looking for this tweet for ages! I saw it on the phone and forgot to follow the link. I knew you posted it on the day you spoke at Razorfish, but Twitter Search refused to let me look that far back in time. I had given up, but was testing out FriendFeed's older items and it turns out to be the second to last item. I am sure it will disappear into the ether soon. Glad I caught it and "liked" it in time. - Matthew Moroz

Good to know, FF's memory is a lot longer - Jeremiah Owyang

Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, FriendFeed Talk

FriendFeed Plans Features to Stem Conversation Flare-Ups - louisgray.com - http://www.louisgray.com/live...

July 11, 2009 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"Bret said that new tweaks are going to soon come available on FriendFeed that would enable users to stop comments on particular entries, or on the person's entire feed itself. This means that if Arrington were to re-enable his account, as he said he would do today, he could opt to mute threads that got out of control, or simply post his feed and make it unavailable for interaction. Interestingly, Bret said that the conversations on those accounts that had either a small amount of followers or a large amount were of the lowest quality." - Kol Tregaskes from Bookmarklet

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Paul and Ana mentioned to me that they were working on someone too last week. Sounds good to me, what do you think? - Kol Tregaskes

Not sure... it's all in the implimentation. The idea that shutting down a thread would somehow dissolve a true 'mob' is naive at best... - Johnny

Also too...the 'mob' that got Arrington wasn't on a thread he owned. It was on Leo's TWiT Conversations. This is a pure exercise in image protection, not mob prevention. It jut stops it looking bad if it's on friendfeed.com/techcrunch - Johnny

Agree it's not the complete answer but shutting a thread down could be useful in general, though personally will try not to use it very much. What other ways do you think FF could solve this issue, Johnny? I suggested an abuse button from a dropdown on the comment icon or an abuse email address but not many people liked that: http://ff.im/4Srhl - Kol Tregaskes

Oh really? Then Mike would not have control anyway. - Kol Tregaskes

Exactly.. - Johnny

You don't solve a mob problem by giving the lynchee weapons... A clear distinction must be made between what is a mob and what is a large amount of people disagreeing with you or pointing out you are wrong. Stuff like this will never be solved, it is a public space. It's swings and roundabouts... If you want high exposure, you have to accept the fact there will be blow back occasionally. If you want to control your message 100%, you'll be playing to a very small audience - Johnny

Sometimes you just have to ignore the 'mob' and carry on. Don't rise to it. - Kol Tregaskes

Agree with that, Johnny. - Kol Tregaskes

I like that feature of stopping a thread as you could use it for a kinda sticky post for groups, etc. - Kol Tregaskes

There is also a 'danger' of creating tiers of user interaction. What will be the criteria for becoming a 'approved commenter' for certain groups. If someone is simply going to pipe in their feed and not allow interaction, I fear they will be destined to sit with the the Twitter feeds... Hidden - Johnny

Just seen your post here: http://ff.im/555rc BTW - Kol Tregaskes

I was about to post that :D - Johnny

;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Will read and comment later, walkies-time now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

How about people who share an entry that is blocked for interaction. Then the interaction eventually goes on at that new post. - Daan

This is absolutely excellent. Implementing things like his would at least cut down on the mobbing. There are too many people online that LOVE to argue, fight and troll. True it won't stop it altogether, but if nothing is done at all, the negative people will absolutely ruin FF in time and word will get around to avoid this service. At least having control of your own thread like you can with your own blog in closing comments, this would help tremendously. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Jan: Ditto! - Myrna

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I could see it being abused easily. I'd like to find out more about it before completely deciding, though. - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)

I'm sure there are actual good uses for such features, but that's not what this stuff is being implemented for. I think Arrington and TC are cowards for wanting a shield between them and people who don't agree with them. I'm also sick and tired of people throwing around the word "mob" because apparently no one has a clue what the definition is. - Rah-PM 2012

Arrington, got treated bad because he marginalized people. You insult enough people, people will stand up to you! I stopped following TechCrunch long time ago, because Arrington does not welcome open debate on his blog. <just my opinion> We come to Social Media networks to interact, not to Spam our links! ;-) - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Like for instance, just the other day, I posted an invitation for people to join a new FF group room I created for Highly Sensitive People. This was an announcement. An Invitation. But then a person commented to argue his point against labeling something (specifically against something called HSP). I had posted the invite and then left for a while, not imagining anyone would even... more... - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Ha3rvey - I'm not sure how it would be abused, but I can definitely see how it would prevent abuse. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

If you are afraid of what people's responses will be, you should not be talking in public forums on the interwebz. That is why many services have private methods of communications. - Rah-PM 2012

Rasheen, people have different definitions on words like "mob". I was cruicified over my definition on what a "troll" was. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Okay, I have no idea what this all about, but instead of crying when people disagree with you, why not just use the ALREADY THERE feature of 'Moderate Comments' and delete those icky people who think differently? - Anika

Hah, Anika, I have used that one many times! - Myrna

That's why words have official definitions. Mob has a negative connotation that I don't appreciate being applied to the entire FF community. I also feel it's being used to refer to a large group of people that don't agree with you. I didn't see what your definition of troll was, but I also don't see how the definition of a "troll" is up for discussion as it pertains to public forums on the net. - Rah-PM 2012

Jan, I missed the thread you were talking about, but I'll definitely agree that there are people on the net who are spoiling for a fight at any moment. Personally, I block them as fast as I can. I'll drop a block or a hide before they even know what happened. This is not how it should be, but it's definitely how it is. - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)

"icky people who think differently" LOL - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Right - but I was crucified over even moderating comments! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Everyone should be able to feel comfortable using the public forums, not just those who have thick skin or those who enjoy heated discussions. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Jan, so feel comfortable. Don't get pulled in :)) "Practice makes perfect." - Myrna

There is a difference between moderating comments and deleting comments you don't like. Also, it's a public forum. At some point, people say things you don't like. It's the Internet. Either you create a semi-private haven for you and a few friends or you prepare to deal with trolls and people who will argue with you, which are not necessarily the same thing. - Rah-PM 2012

Jan, read Ha3rvey for reminders. - Myrna

Right Myrna :-) - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Myrna, if you're pointing to me as a source of good advice, you're obviously a troll. *BLOCKED* :) - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)

Jan, I think "crucified"may be a bit melodramatic, but I have no idea what you're referring to, so *shrug*. I do think that some people are WATB and get way too easily upset if the comments aren't "ditto". That's not conversation. Calling people who disagree with you a mob is hyperbole that only serves to make that person lose credibility with me. But if you only want people who think like you to respond, then create a private group and only invite those people. Block them, whatever...we have the tools. - Anika

Ha3rvey but its true, what you said. - Myrna

People can split atoms over words like "crucified", "mobbing", "troll", and it doesn't really matter. Some people get offended easily, some people are very sensitive and words stir up different emotions in people. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Jan, if you get offended easily, then that's your work!! - Myrna

If someone is having that much trouble with alleged trolls and mob behavior, than lock down your account and adjust your subscribers accordingly. If you want a bunch a yes men and yes women, than that is the best way to get it. I am not sure when disagreeing became trollish and mob like, but whatever. - Michelle M

++++Michelle - Anika

No no Myrna, I didn't say I get offended easily, I'm highly sensitive - and that's what I created the SUPPORT group room for. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

If you are overly sensitive to things, let's say pollen or milk, what do you do? You avoid those situations where you might have to deal with those things. You protect yourself. You don't expect the pollen or the milk to start interacting differently with you. You don't expect the world to change to accommodate you....do you? - Rah-PM 2012

Not at all Rahsheen - am I communicating that? I'm confused. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Rasheen :)))))) - Myrna

It depends on how you want to work it. If you're highly sensitive, you can hide and not ever be triggered or you can use the difficult experiences to learn from. - Myrna

I seem to be misunderstood a lot - this is confusing. I'm evidently not communicating in a way people get what I'm saying. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Rahsheen, I never said I expected the world to change to accommodate to me, but I protect myself by blocking people and the like. But people get OFFENDED when I do that, but there's nothing I can do to keep everyone from getting offended. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

this is a slippery slope. most-likely adding this feature will _increase_ the likely hood of undesirable threads. it's also inevitable. the slide to entropy continues. bummer. - MikeAmundsen

My point is, those that seem to have trouble or get easily offended or feel attacked when dealing with public forums should avoid doing so. Modifying the forum itself so that it allows you to just kill the conversation at will defeats the purpose of having a public forum. Of COURSE people get offended when you block them. Just as hanging up in someone's face during a phone conversation is offensive to them. The only way to avoid these types of interactions is to stick to more private methods of discussion. - Rah-PM 2012

All I was saying was that If have an announcement or invitation to a new group room (for instance), it would be nice to just post the invitation and close comments, just like people can do with their own blogs. If someone hates the invitation and wants to argue against it, they can start a separate thread. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

I can't imagine any instance where I would use this (even the political threads that I post where things get hot and heavy, I wouldn't use them), but it's still nice to have the option. As Johnny says, it's all in the implementation. - Steven Perez

Got it Jan - Myrna

But Rahaheen, I believe I have a right to be here and my right to engage in public discussions. I agree with Ha3rvey on how he uses blocking and such. Robert Scoble blocks people - should he only have private methods of discussion? - Jannifer @wordsforliving

I see what you're saying, Jan, but I also see where many people will simply block or avoid people who post items where you can't comment. It's happened before. I guess we'll see how it works out in this instance. You have the right to block and moderate all you want, but you can't expect people not to get upset about it. Like I said, a private forum is the only way to avoid such a backlash. - Rah-PM 2012

Right - but I for one would like to be able have some layer of protection so that not every single thing is up for arguing. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

If I post an announcement, I'd like to just post an announcement without worrying about an argument breaking out while I'm gone. That's ALL I was saying. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

+++Mark - You said it best. I don't see any downside either. And nobody is actually prevented from commenting on anything I post, even if I "closed" comments. All someone has to do is RESHARE the content to their own feed or different room and argue and wrangle all day long about much they hate it. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

One of the main distinguishing factors of FriendFeed compared to Twitter is the ability for others to comment on your own content in your feed: with Twitter, that doesn't happen. All commentary happens on other people's feeds. That's all that's being suggested here. There are some people who want to prevent commentary on their own feeds from other people. It doesn't stop you from... more... - Mark Trapp

I don't see the downside or slippery slope either. Personally, I would like to use FriendFeed as a mini-blog where I can moderate comments and even close commenting just like on a regular blog. Then like in a regular blog where commenting was closed, they could go back to their OWN blog and continue the conversation until the cows come home and even link back to the original blog if they wanted to do so. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

seems fine to give people control over their individual FF items, but I'd be pissed if I posted something on my friendfeed account and someone else was able to mute/delete it. That would feel like censorship to me. I think FF ought to give everyone total control over there feed, but no control over others' feeds. - Thomas Hawk

Thomas, would you say that once you post a comment on a blog then the author has no right to mod your comment? You're right, it would feel like censorship, but isn't it then up to you to decide whether or not you want to engage with a feed owner that practices that? - Aviv

I have some doubts on comment and feed moderation (censorship?) in Friendfeed. Stopping a conversation or a comment could make continue it in another thread (or in another social network or in a blog). I'm worried that someone could use not so good these new features, as the guys who play football and take away the ball when fighting ("the thread is mine and I leave here only the... more... - Roberto

What I think is even more troubling, and I hope I'm not repeating something that has been said already, is that power users such as Scoble have way too much power on FF due to the way Block is implemented. Since Scoble is such a popular figure around here and lengthy conversations tend to develop around entries that he posts (either thanks to the quality of content or just sheer volume... more... - Aviv

Actually because we are a small community of active users, the turn off comments future may start more Flame Wars than it is meant to prevent.If people are having a conversation and a heated debate ensues, it is better to let the emotions be vented out where it has originally started. Can you imagine what would happen if in the middle of a conversation, someone turns off their comments? People would get very pissed, and will bash this user all over the place. I hope FF is not giving in to a few Divas?, - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

If FF does implement the turn comments off feature, it should be designed in such a way to only work if no comments have yet been done by other users, besides the owner of the thread. Do not let the thread owner turn comments off after the conversation has started. BAD IDEA - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Also see this attempt at getting a discussion going on a looming obstacle in FF's road to mainstream: http://friendfeed.com/aviv... - Aviv

My favorite part of that whole thing is Bret's comment that there's a type of Bell Curve / sweet spot with regard to the ratio of followers to quality. I have found this as well. But I've been whining for better "FF conversation" for a year now. The feed-owner ought be able to moderate/mute/block/whatever. I'm more eager to see FF add other, more serious online conversation tools (such as threading, tagging, etc. - more forum-esque features), but this is a welcome baby step in the right direction. - Anthony Citrano

Anthony, does the fact that you Favorited a photo taken by Thomas Hawk on Flickr give you the right to prevent some random guy who may have earned his block for having a NSFW image you didn't like show up in his own feed, whatever the reason is - - from engaging with the community -- and Thomas himself -- just because by way of chance the conversation related to that content, owned and copyrighted by Thomas, of course, kicked off under an item that you didn't even explicitly add to your feed? - Aviv

@Aviv - as I've long said, I see FriendFeed as a curating tool. My own lil' quasi-public museum. ;) If someone sees something in my feed that they like, and for whatever reason I don't want them commenting therein, there are plenty of other ways they may do so. In your example, the person could continue over to Thomas' feed, or to the flickR page for that photo, or share it in their own... more... - Anthony Citrano

Anthony, but remember that some people use FF to have conversations with their friends. What good is FF to them if their friends' own content and valuable insight becomes invisible to them because someone else decided that the block feature is an efficient way to filter FF and that someone happens to share someone else's content on FF by way of adding a delicious bookmark and for... more... - Aviv

Anthony, your "museum" is your feed. You can set it to private. But when your feed contains conversations involving my friends on content that you don't own (like a link to someone else's blog post) - that piece of art is now on loan to a different museum - the public FF community. And as I've said earlier, in the very least, a blocked user in that case should be given read-only access. - Aviv

There is a problem. If the owner of a thread removes some of the comments, the rest could be decontextualised and their meaning may change totally. All those who left a comment in a moderated thread at least should be alerted via email that Friendfeed thread was moderated, even if the comment removed was not regarding them. This however is not enough. Imagine that user A leaves a... more... - Roberto

@Aviv - totally disagree with you. I'll use a real-world example. I chaired and helped produce a conference for years. We frequently had to deal with people who felt they were entitled to access the event, despite economic (they didn't want to pay) or social (we didn't want them to come) obstacles, merely because something/someone they were profoundly interested in would be there. To... more... - Anthony Citrano

@Aviv: and no, my feed is not a public community. It is more like having a store in leased mall space. You can walk in anytime you like, and I can kick you out anytime I like. - Anthony Citrano

Side point. A study I saw at a Stanford conference in 2008 on Amazon reviews found that the MOST active reviewers also tended to be the lowest quality (too much artificial praise of friends, and put-downs of competition). I think the LEAST active reviewers were also low-quality (but don't recall). - Mitchell Tsai

I definitely don't like the idea of this new feature. I agree with Johnny Worthington, Rahsheen ™ and Roberto (postoditacco). Several months ago, I remeber having a conversation with Robert Scoble about "reciprocating" and how the chance of reciprocating made FF of more value. Can someone remember how Friendfeed used to be when it had no comments at all? It looks very hipocritical to me... more... - Niki Costantini

Niki: what's to stop you from ignoring people who don't want to open up comments on their feed, and following only those who allow commenting? Or resharing a story from a feed that doesn't allow comments to your own feed, where you are free to comment as much as you'd like? - Mark Trapp

If Scoble or Arrington want to sanitize and refractor their feeds, they should start their own Social Media platform ScobleFeed.com Already half the users are blocking the other half. No wonder FriendFeed just does not grew. If you just agree with everything these Divas are saying, they let you interact with their followers. Life is not about stroking Egos! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Mark, I am here not for ignoring people but for following them. If I wanted to follow people without having the chance or with a lower possibility of reciprocation I'd follow them on Twitter. Just because a feed can be reshared (are you sure that if comments won't be opened up the reshare feature won't be disabled either?) at the moment it doesn't mean I see it as a good implementation. - Niki Costantini

Nobody has mentioned that they would disable reshare, so I don't think it's reasonable to infer that it would be. I don't understand. The people who would choose to use the feature to lock comment threads or turn off commenting clearly don't want people commenting on their stuff on their feed: why would you force that on them? It seems like a more reasonable approach would be to simply... more... - Mark Trapp

We are all discussing here about something we don't know anything about yet. We are just speculating. It seems totally reasonable to me that if I choose to turn off comments on my feeds even the reshare feature is disabled. Anyway, this is not my real point. The question is not forcing someone, the point is that if one can get all the good by subscribing on FF (public visibility,... more... - Niki Costantini

great roberto and niki;) - Patrizia Filippetti

Yay ! - Swaroop

If you publish something to the world, be it in a book, newspaper, magazine or on the internet, it effectively becomes public domain and open to debate and critical analysis. If you don't want that, or can't stand the thought that someone might disagree with you, then don't publish it. This whole debate here is nonsense brought about because someone got pissed off by people disagreeing with his views. Well that's too bad, There ain't nothing new on the internet. - Gilbert Harding

g - Fikisha from BuddyFeed

Gilbert agree, it's a nice feature is used correctly but to use it to stop people from disagreeing with you it not the correctly way IMHO. But, Jannifer, I agree about it being useful for "announcements". The feature would be useful for this at the least but to combat abusive commentators. I'm not sure. I'd say re-sharing should be kept open so anyone could take the argument elsewhere and away from the abused. - Kol Tregaskes

Daan, sure on your very early comment, the question is then should re-share be blocked? I'd say no but what are your thoughts? - Kol Tregaskes

Rah, agree with your early comment, if it's just to protect such users I'm not interested in the feature, everyone has control of their own threads. If you don't like what is being said you already have the option to delete the entry, delete any comment or simply respond with your counter opinion. - Kol Tregaskes

Perhaps the problem is that such users are not able to express their opinon appropriately without causing abusive reponses. Is this down to FF to police? I'd said we should try to control it as best we can (like I tried to last week) but once it gets out of hand then maybe we need some sort of control. But we do have the block and delete features already and again I think the re-share should be left open to use by anyone on a locked entry. - Kol Tregaskes

Igor, I like your comment about locking a thread only when the owner is the commentator and once anyone else comments it's no lockable, I noted this here: http://ff.im/555rc - another interesting thread on this subject. - Kol Tregaskes

How about the option of making individual entries private so only your subscribers can see and interact with it? - Kol Tregaskes

So it has happened: http://friendfeed.com/bret.... What do you think? - Kol Tregaskes

I think exactly what I stated above, no more, no less. - Niki Costantini

Aviv, I'm watching your "thesis" or "pet theory" ... it has all the markings of becoming a "doomsday prediction", or something requiring a tin foil hat :-) Your hypothetical situations are far too detailed, ready for the Alex Jones treatment with terrifying music! - Richard Walker

Anika OMG girl your are HILARIOUS. But if I see you thinkin different, you're just another "icky" :) BE WARNED lol - Richard Walker

great - beroboo

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RT @tweetmeme louisgray.com: What Is This Real-Time Thing, And Where Is It Going? http://www.louisgray.com/live...

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Europe no longer matters to lead position in mobile - http://scobleizer.com/2009... (via http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...)

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Nokia is a bit stuck in the smartphone arena. I'm wondering how they will get out of it. (I say ditch symbian for Android) - TobiasVerhoog.com

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Multi-Country study examines how we use mobile phones now and what we might do in the future - http://www.intomobile.com/2009...

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http://www.techfob.com/2009...

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fake? - LeON

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Probably fake, but i like it! Does look about 4ft tall though. - Simon Wicks

3d render - Özkan Altuner

Looks awesome! - Christine Yang from BuddyFeed

My bet would be fake... where's the mic on those headphones... - JR

This looks the best I've seen, I really like the look of this one. Once a few days to go ... - Keith Bennett

I'm almost sure that it's fake, but it's beautiful fake! I like it! - Vladimir Prudnikov

That is sexy as hell! - Shawn Hickman

It looks like something Apple would do, but It seems to perfect. - Matt Ruiz

I'm not totally sold on this one...... but its possible..... - Roberto Bonini

It's fake.... but looks sweet - Simon Tracey

it's almost fake.... - Gokcen Karan

totally fake, those are the old style earbuds - Rodzilla

fake! - Bill Sodeman

Obviously fake, but this would be a badass iPhone... oh, and while we're dreaming, it should have at least 120GB of storage space. ;-) - Timothy Federwitz

Jeremiah Owyang

Report: Companies Should Organize For Social Media in a “Hub and Spoke” model - http://www.web-strategist.com/blog...

June 25, 2009 from Web Strategy by Jeremiah - Comment - Like - Share

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CrunchPad: The Launch Prototype (it looks absolutely gorgeous) - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...

June 3, 2009 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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It's really hard to believe that the crunchpad has come so far. I remember the early talks of asking whether anybody knew of something like this that existed, then talks of building one themselves, and now finally a launch prototype. Very exciting - Wang Yip

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Dimensions? - The original Kevin

pricing? - mikepk

Michael in the comments says 12 inch screen and 18 mm thick - Wang Yip

@Jason, precisely - chrisofspades

this'll get hacked to be awesome! - Stuart Evans

looks So Cool - Amir

kinda reminds me of a larger iphone - Stuart Evans

Will it run flash? If it's cheap enough for newspapers to subsidize for their customers, it could be a finger in the dike. - The original Kevin

yep, it does everything a browser does Kevin - Zee.

I like the idea of booting directly to the browser. For the average person, they can pretty much get by in the browser and something like this is all they would need. I would guess however, that this is not going to be targeted at the "average" person to begin with but nonetheless I think it is a move in the right direction. - Mike Bracco

Persistent data connection (i.e. 3G)? - Mike Bracco

Big important question...how long after it comes out will it be available in Australia? I'm sold already on it. - George Hall (Australia)

Looks interesting, but what interested me about Kindle is the e-Ink technology - I don't want to read newspapers or books on a screen. Fine for a Netbook replacement, large browser, but seems to be a different use than the Kindle. - Stuart Miniman

This really looks amazing. - Vince DeGeorge

looks awesome. This will definately affect the kindles marketshare considering the iphone is really a competitor to the kindle. - craftsmen_atl from twhirl

Are there speakers? Headphone jacks? - Jen (SquirrelGirl)

i'll believe it when mine arrives in the post (please) - Jamie Vidamour

wow, that does look positively amazing... WANT! - Susan Beebe

This looks really cool, and is what I want for my couch computer. - Chris Patterson

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Digg Announces Digg Ads - http://blog.digg.com/?p=808

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How Apple approves iPhone apps? - The Next Web - http://thenextweb.com/2009...

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"With iPhone apps being banned for ridiculous reasons on an almost weekly basis it’s easy to think that Apple doesn’t actually have any clear policy for App Store approvals. The ever-astute Joy of Tech have other ideas." - Martin Bryant

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Sad Cardboard Robot - http://vi.sualize.us/view...

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INQ confirms Twitter phone for Q4 2009 | CEO wants to drive Tweeting on mobiles - http://www.techradar.com/news...

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"NQ has confirmed that it will be bringing a Twitter phone to market for Christmas this year, after the success of its first effort. The Facebook phone, or INQ1, had tight integration with the biggest social network, and the next effort (unconfirmed as the INQ2) will have Twitter support baked in the case. It is reported this low cost handset, which only cost £80 the 3 network, managed to shift 700,000 units, and is still apparently wandering out the shops at a pretty impressive rate. Frank Meehan, CEO of INQ, said "This can really help open up and drive Twitter use on mobile when usage becomes part of your data package like on the PC." - The Real sofarsoShawn from Bookmarklet

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"Twitter play He had previously stated that the next iteration of its handset models would likely contain some kind of Twitter support, at the event the company hosted back in February. Meehan also hinted that the next device would possibly have a full QWERTY keyboard as well, which would be great for quick Tweets, although 140 characters isn't that hard to tap out on a normal keypad.... more... - The Real sofarsoShawn

Not such a big fan of the idea... - The Real sofarsoShawn

Crap Ideqa - Ian Cleasby from twhirl

Robert Scoble

Do you Poken? Click here to see a Poken in action and learn more about how business cards might go away:

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http://wwww.doyoupoken.com is what you're looking at. Here the founder, Stephane Doutriaux is demonstrating them. - Robert Scoble

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My Poken is the pink one. You hold it against his. They automatically have "poken sex" and trade your information, which you can then see up on the DoYouPoken website. Very cute and would have saved me a lot of money in scanning business cards in. - Robert Scoble

That is, if everyone had them. Right now they are too expensive to go really viral, though. - Robert Scoble

Most stupidest thing ever IMHO. - Peter Kruit

Robert, I have one. I agree with You, too expensive (15 euro each one) - Luca Conti

12 of them costs about $189, which is way too much. If they can get the cost down to $1 or $2 a piece, then I could see them taking off. Until then, they are fun game if you get one for free at a conference or something like that. - Robert Scoble

in italy poken is amazing and overbooked !!!! - michele ficara 

This is hilarious! Poken sex is better than no sex! I actually heard something about the iphone app that sort of does this by exchanging info as you get close to another iphone user who also has the app. I do think physical cards will go away. - Sheryl

I would get one seems like fun - Matt Bebich

probably wont catch on here in the states, but cool idea - sean percival

It's a cool technology, though, and lots of fun to do at a conference if everyone has them (they are building them into badge holders, too). - Robert Scoble

Way too expensive, and would you really ask a client "Do you Poken"? - Bruce Fraser

They need to make one of those with "The Big Blue Monster" from GapingVoid on them :) - Sean Kearney

If I asked questions like that in some of the pubs I go to it would be the last question I asked :-) - Gordon Wheeler

What happens if someone just walks by and they have one do they automatically get your information - Matt Bebich

Gordon: I wouldn't advise using that as a pickup line! :-) - Robert Scoble

Matt: no. They have to touch to exchange information. - Robert Scoble

I have one but at the moment not so many people have a Poken! - Michela Cimnaghi /cimny

Oh, and they have "executive" versions coming out that don't look cartoonish. - Robert Scoble

embed this tech into a mobile and you have a winner - Richard Spalding

I just checked them out... The price for one isn't ridiculous. Under $20. I've spent more on memory keys and Walkie Talkies in the past. :) - Sean Kearney

Consider the cost of a box of business cards before saying these are too expensive. Richard +1 - Justin Hopkins

Business cards can be used with everyone, these things can't (yet) Cards are still king. - Bruce Fraser

I like the idea. It's definitely neat. I would pay for a "Poken" with a custom logo on it. It definitely is unique. - Sean Kearney

FireBox sell then here in the U.K. - Bruce Fraser

This won't even last as long as sending vcards via IR. - Hartley Spurlock

Would love to have one but can imagine me never encountering anyone to Poken in my world. At least not in the near future. - suecosby

We do Poken Robert! And we also organized a Poken Party for the launch of the new FIAT 500 Cabrio in Milan: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Marco Massarotto

If they are going to replace business card maybe they should not make them look like something that comes with a Happy Meal. - Brendan Clancy

Maybe they should give them away with Happy Meals, then we'd all have one... - Bruce Fraser

There are new models coming that look very "executive." - Robert Scoble

And if they really went viral, and someone Pokened profligately and started spreading PSTDs that ruined your Poken's ability to replicate... - MiniMage, enterRUPPted

Scoble: $1 or $2? $10 seems worth it, the savings in business cards alone could justify the expense. executive would be a plus... (i'm picturing a monkey in a suit.) - Marco

Saw these about six months ago and thought it was a fart in the wind. Can't believe this is still around. - Chris Menning

I'm all for adding a bit of fun to productivity. We take ourselves so freaking seriously all the time. This seems like a useful step away from somber zombiefication. Now for the corporate types who want faceless uniformity, surely custom Poken with suitably unremarkable appearances and all the functionality could become reality. Am I FFing myself out of my next job? Maybe I should go for a ride. - MiniMage, enterRUPPted

Robert -- i've got a cute little Geisha girl one. They're up to cool stuff. The cool thing is, the info isn't stored so if you lose it, you don't give up info. It's just an exchange of ID's. I love them. Ok, i'm partial. Had dinner with Renate and she rocks. Don't write cuteness off just yet guys. They're up to stuff. :) - Christine Lu

I have one, KPMG gave some Poken at a professional forum for my school. I think, there are two problems. First it really doesn't look business, but as you said, a business version is coming. And, it only works with another poken, it should works with Iphone or blackberry using the bluetooth and a free application we can download for Iphone or Blackberry. - tristan

I still have a few Pokens that I'm willing to give away... Read: http://www.aadjemonkeyrock.com/2009... - Aad 't Hart

Yeah, I still remember when Palm's IR beaming was going to kill business cards... - Joel Bennett

This is the most bizarre idea I have ever heard of, but I like it. I doubt this will ever catch on though, unless it becomes cheaper and more "professional". I can't see cute little avatars being taken seriously in real world business. - Angus Burton

they could be free and then it would be possibile to buy and exchange virtual goods. I do not see any future for business card: it is something that you can do with your mobile phone and I wonder why it is not yet implemented in the address book. - Nicola Mattina

you can get them in States at www.startpoken.com - Roger Huitt

I really think that business card will go digital. - Keven

I do poken. It's been a while :-) - Paul Papadimitriou

If u meet a sexy babe in a club, a sure way to turn her off is to pull out your poken. - Tokyo Dan

I met a girl. I gave her a good poken. It was her first poken. Now she gives every man a good poken. - Tokyo Dan

If you want to get arrested in Japan, walk into a police box and pull out your poken. - Tokyo Dan

Need a design that more effectively accommodates the Japanese meishi-kokan culture. - Daniel Fath

I like this. Even tried to buy a 12-pack. Link is broken. This does not bode well for this company. - Leo Laporte

Once they get Poken with a bigger size limit (I think you can only store the contact information of 12 contacts at one time), maybe add a few more useful features in there as well, then we'll have a good product. Make them look like real high-tech business cards and THEN it will really catch on. - Malcolm Bastien

Cute and all but seriously, no businessman outside silicon valley is going to carry one of these things around. - David Jacobs

Good point tristan: "it should works with Iphone or blackberry using the bluetooth and a free application we can download for Iphone or Blackberry". - Jadito

Reminds me of that line from Singles when that once character is trying to convince everyone that they will want to ride the train but everyone answers, "but i love my car". People love business cards for better or worse, it's a way to be a designer without being one. - adolfo foronda

You can store 64 identities on the current model. Once you reach that limit, it erases the first one. The device signals you at 60. I have three poken, just in case, but most of the time, I don't reach that limit. As soon as I go to my Mac and connect with doyoupoken.com, contacts are saved. - Paul Papadimitriou

Note: beware of putting multiple pokens in one pocket: they talk to each other ;-) - Paul Papadimitriou

I love the idea/bought 12 and have tried to push them a bit with my networking group however the lack of effort on the companies part to promote them in the US is really slowing things down. Adoption will not come with out some serious evangelism and seeding on the companies part. - Joel Ordesky

Poken are doing great here in Japan. I helped the launch at a blogger event a couple of months back and there's been steady progress since then. I'm helping evangelize Poken here. The company has really done a lot of thinking in order to make Poken a success. Will definitely be interested to see whether they can get to a critical mass. I certainly hope so as they are are a huge time and cost saver. (If you think of the cost of one business card, one unit will pay for itself in a short amount of time). - Andrew Shuttleworth

Always happy to pimp a good thing :-) - Andrew Shuttleworth

The Poken are clearly conspiring against me :-) Hey, I'm the official evangelist along with Andrew, so I had to test things out for you all ^^ - Paul Papadimitriou

Had a nice chat with Robert Scoble a few weeks back where I offered him a Poken by mail. He didn't know what I was talking about at first but then realized he had forgotten he had received one at SXSW. I mentioned how popular and relevant they were becoming and didn't receive a response. Wondering: what has changed to make them interesting now? - Robert Sanzalone

Poken hype or no hype ? In the Netherlands it's a great success and Belgium is following. - Mike Verdugt

robert do you remember when i first showed you that at last LeWeb08 in Paris in the cab? - Ouriel Ohayon

No I don't (yet), what about you? - Gianluigi Cuccureddu

I have one but I haven't met anyone else with one yet in the UK. Think it's a great idea and reckon it won't be long before businesses are using them. - Lindsay Davies

what do they say about a fool and their money? - Gee Ranasinha

Why can't this just be on a phone, seems like a waste of money to have a separate piece of hardware - Ben

Complete waste of space. Buy a Poken but nobody has one. Pointless. Should be a phone as everyone else says. It's been said over and over with this product, why don't they just patent the technology and sell it to a mobile phone maker? Job done. Tired of these bullshit Web 2.0 gimmicks... - Andrew Eglinton

Cucat, anyone? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - John Craft

I actually think http://www.mynameise.com will appeal much more to people actually using business cards. The connector is coming and brings much more than people giving each other an online card to look at. They did not win The Next Web Award for nothing :) - Ruud van Wijngaarden

There's a free app on the IPhone called 'Bump' that does the same thing as far as I can see. - Rob Bell

They have been available in the United States for 2 months at www.startpoken.com - Roger Huitt

Cool! Poken are available in Japan too, at http://poken.jp/en/ . Buy one and get poken! - Rick Cogley

They are here in NZ but I don't know anyone who has one and it's all about mass adoption - I prefer the snapdat iphone app - you can get someone to download it on the spot and bam - you got their details. - James Stewart

Zee. to Zee.'s feed, TheNextWeb Forum

Where does everyone go after Twitter? Here’s the top 10 list. - http://thenextweb.com/2009...

May 14, 2009 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Facebook, huh? Wonder how much longer that will be the case. - Brandon Mendelson

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Whither friendfeed, huh? - Iain Baker

right now, were peanuts unfortunately,..but in time that will change I'm sure - Zee.

Twitter Search at less than 2% and apparently dropping. An indication of just how important that is to your average Twitterer? - Gilbert Harding

@Gilbert but I think that's because it's integrated into Twitter.com now if you see what I mean - Zee.

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Rock And A Hard Place - http://joedawson.posterous.com/rock-an...

May 14, 2009 from joedawson's posterous - Comment - Like - Share

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Loved the Simpson movie :-) - Alisha Vargas

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MySears and MyKmart Send Friend Requests - http://www.mediapost.com/publica...

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"Shooting for greater consumer engagement, Sears Holdings has tapped Chicago-based technology company Viewpoints Network to power two new online communities, MySears.com and MyKmart.com. Through the networks, MySears and MyKmart members can engage in all the usual SM shenanigans: social profiles, uploading photos, creating user tags, connecting with "friends," writing blog posts, tracking their readership stats, and exchanging private messages with other community members." - Brad Williamson from Bookmarklet

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Paul Buchheit to Paul's feed, FriendFeed News

We added a 1-click login for Twitter users, so now it's easy for all your friends to try http://friendfeed.com

May 5, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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To RT, click http://twitter.com/home... It uses OAuth, so no password is required, and it automatically finds your Twitter friends on FriendFeed! It also imports your profile and picture. Big thanks to http://friendfeed.com/bgolub for making all this happen! (also, existing users can go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... to find Twitter, Facebook, and Gmail friends) - Paul Buchheit

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fan bloody tastic! So we can post here and Twitterers can comment away without any complaints! The only think you need to try and do is bring in comments (about a share) from twitter into here! :) - Zee.

This is great...should help new users quite a bit. - Mark Krynsky

Bravo!!! Very nice! - David Cook

nice - Joe Azzara

thanks for making it effortless - Vedran Agovic

That's fantastic! Keep it up guys!! :) - iTad

I'm hoping this will help to entice people over here. I'd much rather talk to people via FF than Twitter - WoH: Minding her Steves

FrF + OAuth. Like. - tobe

Refresh your FriendFeed to see an updated first comment from Paul, including a link to RT this news: http://twitter.com/home... - Dan Hsiao

OK, I admit I'm dense. As an existing user will this help me find the folks I follow on Twitter? - Laura Norvig

Cool, is it possible we could have the ability to bulk import or non-FF Twitter friends as private feeds so we can track them in FF? :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Laura, existing FriendFeed users should just go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... and click on the Twittter (and Facebook and Google) icons to find their friends. Kol, not yet, but I'm hoping to add something like that soon (improved imaginary friends). - Paul Buchheit

Thx, Paul - guess I haven't been to that page since the launch. btw, I'm definitely coming around to the new friendfeed (colors notwithstanding). - Laura Norvig

Great to see the standards working -OAuth fro Gogole and Twitter login on Friendfeed - Kevin Marks

That's a great tool, Paul! Found a few from Twitter and Facebook I didn't realise were on FF...:) - WoH: Minding her Steves

Oh man, that is suh-weet. Works really well. - Laura Norvig

Paul, that would be wonderful, thank you. I'm keen to use FF as a kinda Twitter client. I'd love the ability to import my group I've created on Tweetvisor too but that would additionally require exporting facilities from Tweetvisor, and from asking them they've told me it's low priority (which is fair enough). - Kol Tregaskes

That's fantastic! Sharing with all of my not-yet-friendfeedified twitter friends. Thanks, Paul! - Eric Johnson

This IS good. Thanks for the hard work, Benjamin Golub. - Micah

this is fabulous!!! - Angela P.

It's so convenient for new comer like me! - tsssimon

Just tried it and it works great. - Iván Abrego

i have tried this too and am richer by 33 Twitter friends - jagannath rao

Nice work. Keeps getting better around here :-) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

WOW! 313 new Twitter people! Amazing what the OAuth did. Amazing. That just completely Rocks! - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

That was just too easy, and found a bunch of Twitter people. I just subscribed, but I hope they participate. I'm sure I'll have to trim later. - Eric

Thanks for everything Benjamin and the others, that is really great. :) - Alp

I was subscribed to exactly 100 of the people I follow on Twitter. Added 93 more. Funny, this is actually helping me find people I *don't* want to follow in either place. - Laura Norvig

I'm looking forward to the "advanced imaginary friends" section which lets me as an existing FriendFeed user view all the twitter updates from people that don't use FriendFeed. - Brian Sloane

很好，继续努力 - Kunshou（困兽）

Sweet! - Don Strickland

Just posted this to my stream then saw this, Cool stuff Paul - Charlie Anzman

Some time ago I spent lots of time in removing my Facebook-Friendfeed integration, and didn't succeed, Facebook refused to remove it. Since that - no info about any other my services to Facebook, ever. - orie

Happy to hear that there will be an improved imaginary friend option! - Jacob

The improved imaginary friend feature will be great. No need to visit Twitter much then! - Pinksy

FriendFeed is constantly bringing new value to the service. I'm loving it! - Amie Gillingham

its relay cool - Kaspar Minosiants

great idea - andy brudtkuhl

Oh Thanks i was looking for something like this - Asahi

Is the imaginary friends feature completely disabled for the moment? Or am I just not looking in the right place? - Mark Jacobs

Mark: imaginary friends have been replaced by groups. - Robert Scoble

When is OpenID coming up? - Mohammad Abdurraafay

This feature is AWESOME :) Bravo! - Iain Baker

I just imported 8,000 new Twitter friends. Worked MUCH BETTER than last time. - Robert Scoble

Smart move guys. A quick way to grow FF users is to tap into the current hot properties. Can't believe other Social Networks are so slow to respond. - Neill Adamson

Paul, is there a way to sync it so that people I no longer follow on Twitter are unfollowed on FriendFeed? - Jorge Escobar

Great news on the advanced imaginary friends. That plus the ability to comment back to Facebook posts as easily as we reply to Twitter would be killer. - Kevin Kuphal

Finally! :-) - Richard Joerges

Not sure why this wasn't implemented a while ago but it's a welcome addition. - Jason Williams

None of my Facebook contacts are on ff. - JECO Photo

So how do existing FF members use it? - Tiffany Monhollon

Ca passe 50 fois par jour ce truc là sur FriendFeed ! C''est pas possible d'arr^ter, j'en ai marre de le voir franchement ... ^^ - Jean-Marie Gall™ from twhirl

Tiffany, existing FF members should go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... to find their Twitter, Facebook, and Gmail friends. - Paul Buchheit

Encore ?? C'est pas possible ! ;( - Jean-Marie Gall™ from twhirl

RT'd ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

@Robert cannot seem to do that with groups. What I want to do: Concentrate different RSS feeds (e.g. newswires) which do not necessarily have an account in any other social network into one imaginary friend's collection of feeds. - Mark Jacobs

Mark, "groups" (formerly "rooms") are able to import feeds just like regular users (and imaginary friends). See https://friendfeed.com/xoogle-... for example (imports the blogs of all known xoogle startups). The only thing special about imaginary friends is that they don't have usernames (or rather we assign a random 128 bit username). - Paul Buchheit

Paul, the DM option on imaginary friends should perhaps be removed. Also, imaginary friends do not show up on the search dropdown list when you type in their name in the search box. - Kol Tregaskes

Paul, is it possible to automatically create "imaginary friends" from twitter following list? What I would like is to read all my Twitter in FriendFeed; many of twitterers though are not on FF, so I have to create them by hand which is tedious. Also, it would be nice to allow to add them to some special list. - Ihar Mahaniok

Ihar, see my comment up in the middle and Paul's reply. Looks like FF are working on it. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Nice tool, discovered some more contacts ! - François Granger

love this guys wonderful - Thomas Power

This must be the reason for all the new follows I've been getting over the last few days. Congrats! - Michael Fidler

That's actually quite useful. Thank you! - snapixel

Still would like an imaginary friend than making bunch of Groups to simulate peoples that doesn’t use FF. BTW, unlike the Facebook Connect login, when I tried logging in using Twitter, it made a new account for me on FF instead of opening my own (which also has Twitter activity added). - Natsuki Seika

ditto to natsuki... - Steve Austin

Wow, real nice and simply to add my Twitter friends :O - Rosenkrieger

Good move! - Lantrix

Is it possible to add this to a wordpress blog? - Arturo Pelayo

@Arturo: http://wordpress.org/extend... - Saxtus

hi me sid m new member of dis site......... - Sidra Kanwal

Hi...Iam new member of dis site...I like it...! - Nima Tamang

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We updated the FriendFeed Beta navigation and sidebar based on people's feedback: http://beta.friendfeed.com/

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We have separated Groups (the new name for "Rooms") into its own section, and we have renamed "filters" to "Saved searches" to make things simpler/clearer. Saved searches have simper URLs that can be shared, and friend list operations have all been added/cleaned up. - Bret Taylor

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Nice - looks much cleaner. - Robin Barooah

Nice, better navigation - Nimaa

Our primary goal was making Groups more useful again. The friend search / group search functionality is now separate and much easier to use. - Bret Taylor

excellent, much clearer - Don Bonaddio

So the "Top Friends" option that used to be showing is now gone. Works fine. - Louis Gray

That works awesome with the "group" I just put together consisting of all my rss feeds from google reader. - James Ostheimer

I like this change. Also, I apparently like boats. - Ana

I dunno, it's possible to be an enthusiast but not like something. - Casey Muller

Thank you! - BEX

We have also added Atom feeds, Block, and a number of other small missing components. - Bret Taylor

Much better! - Andrew

SHWEET! - Rah-PM 2012

i like being able to statically set the groups it shows me on the side now. - rob friedman

Very cool. Much simpler. Any chance of being able to rearrange the blocks a la iGoogle in the future? Saved Searches were mighty convenient up at the top. - Mark Trapp

Yes, rearranging and theming are both things we would like to do. - Bret Taylor

I wondered what happened ! - LPH™ and his dog P™

Theming? Whoa. - Mark Trapp

+++ Thanks! - .LAG liked that

@Rob, you still can set the groups that show up by clicking on "prefs" in the orange bar. - Ana

Where did the create feed/imaginary friend substitute function go? - Brian Sullivan

@Ana, I just said I liked it. :) I didn't see the ability to change what was shown there prior to this change. It just seemed like a random sampling of the groups I'm on before. - rob friedman

Excellent. Very glad to see the "Browse/edit friends" link. I look forward to being able to rearrange to put my saved searches at the top. - Elizabeth

Nice, but I use filters (well, now saved searches) more than I do my friend lists. Personally I prefer it the way it was, although I'd be happy just to have filters bumped up some (I got a _lot_ of lists to scroll past). - Chris Charabaruk

@Brian, I dont think the imaginary friend stuff is in the beta interface yet, I had to use the old UI to add a few yesterday. - rob friedman

I like the new separation much more than old layout. Being able to rearrange placement of these blocks would be nice but not essential. - Boris Gordon

Better, but you really gotta do something about that color scheme. - mike fabio

Great work! Would be really nice to get the last modified time back next to the title of the groups. That saved me a lot of unnecessary clicks in the non-beta version. - Christoph Studer

Boris: Not essential, that's true, but extremely useful. - Chris Charabaruk

rob friendman -- I am talking about the create a feed function that allowed you to create the equivalent of imaginary friends. - Brian Sullivan

I still think that the "My discussions" link under Friends should really be "My likes and comments", since there are some posts in that feed that are just ones I "liked" and have 0 comments, from me or anyone else. Would you call a post with no comments a "discussion"? - Nathan Chase

Nathan: you are right, those should probably not be in that feed. - Bret Taylor

We are still working out imaginary friends functionality. It is on our radar. - Bret Taylor

Nice. An improvement in my book. - AJ Kohn

I like it. Now give us skins so we can change the color scheme. I also wish I could put searches at top. - Robert Scoble

Bret: cool - just a little semantic thing I figured you might have overlooked - and something that could be confusing for new users. - Nathan Chase

Bret, you guys have moved the filters to the bottom of the sidebar. Can you please put them back to where they were? - Kol Tregaskes

anyway i can switch my account totally over to the beta UI? so any ff link i click on goes to the beta....thx - patrick

let me choose the sequence of the boxes - like "saved searches" on top! - Kishore Balakrishnan

Agreed a nice dark skin would be awesome - Kashif Khan

Can we have the "last modified time" back for each individual group? Anyway, this navigation is much better. Thanks! - Winston Teo

agree with Neil Saunders - ♣ ♣ ♣

Thanks, Bret. You guys -- FF team and product -- are awesome! - Eric Johnson

Thank you Thank you Thank you! Loving the beta and the FFteam's responsiveness - Keith - @tsudo

Why is this showing up in my timeline? It says because one of the people I'm subscribed to Liked it. I'm not a member of the room and I'm not subscribed to the original poster (Sorry Bret!) But I swear I've turned off FoaF every day and this keeps happening. - Paul Reynolds

Its enuf,men,give me more updated info plz. - kelvin from IM

We have more consistent terminology now; good. Now can we have more sophisticated feed-composition tools? How about one-touch "create group from saved search"? And how about fixing the "private group - standard FEED - public group" inconsistency? - Karl Knechtel

I don't think we need full skinning capabilities - just a colour chooser for each coloured element. Also, the prefs link for Groups is a bit ugly. I don't like magically appearing links. - Karl Knechtel

Overall, big improvements, guys. :) - Karl Knechtel

@patrick: every element of the beta UI should have a beta URL already. Any links that you click in posts are whatever URL is actually specified in the post. - Karl Knechtel

Bret, this is great news. I'll leave the cosmetics to better people. I like things as is :) - Deepak Singh

@Paul Reynolds: FoaF can be turned off? - Karl Knechtel

We just pushed a fix for IE 7/8. If you were using IE, you should refresh. Sorry for the problems. - Bret Taylor

Nice improvements, FF team. - Micah

Yes! Thank You! You guys are awesome! - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

I love it - especially the filters at the bottom (I use Lists, more often). That said, I like Kishore's suggestion -> let us choose the ordering of the boxes. - Ahsan Ali

Very good improvement, but would like to have another box of favorite friends. I wouldn't mind if I could set this up like the groups box, or if it would just remember who I clicked on the most. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Simpler... When is the mobile version coming out? - Brian Kenyon

Well done. - Steven Perez

Bret: theming? Please elaborate! - Ryan Miller

Thank you! - Kemal Hadimli

It is awesome Bret! - Akira Kojima Simpson from twhirl

I would really appreciate if we could drag and drop items and boxes. I want to order all this. - stanjourdan

While the new sidebar order is good, I'm having fun getting rid of two saved searches which only bring up an "edit new filter/search page. It'd be nice to have some way to edit/delete searches, like with the groups and friends boxes. Still waiting for someone to give me a tip on how to remove those two links from the list otherwise. - George Hall (Australia)

George: Click the "Saved Searches" title, then select the feed from the left-hand side, then click Delete. - Karl Knechtel

much better! - Dobromir Hadzhiev

like it! only thing i don't like is that i have to scroll down everytime i wanna see my saves searches now... - Peter Efland

Peter, yep to me that's in completely the wrong place. It's the second most important new feature on FF (behind real-time) and it's now "hidden" at the bottom. I have a large list of Groups and means big scroll down to the Saved Searches, which I use a LOT. Please either return them back to the second tab down or give us the option to select what sidebars we have and what order they appear on the bar? - Kol Tregaskes

Bret, this is great, especially being able to see all of my groups. But I agree with just about everyone else, I'd prefer to have my saved searches above groups. There is still enough room to add subscriptions as well . . . maybe?? - Chris Loft

I like it, although the name filter was better, I think. Besides putting the Searches under Friends, it would be good if the Groups would change order in relation to recent activity, like it used to be. - Alejandro

I like the way things are separated, now. However, I too have a lot of lists to scroll past to get to groups and saved searches. It would be nice to move the saved searches and groups above the lists. Definitely loving the beta, though! - Seth Greenblatt

Hmmm.... I still cannot edit a list created from the "likes" of my friends. The UI doesn't allow me to manage the friend list. I cannot tell the likes to which I'm subscribed or add/remove others. - Anthony K. Valley ©

much better now - Mahsa

A number of feeds I set up are showing as Groups. Is that right? I set up a number of Twitter feeds (e.g. "Twitter - Al Yankovic") for nonFF Tweeters. It's a little confusing since now they're listed as a Group when their settings are "Standard Feed". - caj needs a haircut

Alan has a point. - Ahsan Ali

separate groups section is good. now about labelling content sources rather than people... (would be nice to have this at least as an option: show user avatar OR show content source - then those of us who read by content are happy, and those who read by user are happy) - Richard Akerman

Alejandro, I first thought I'd miss "filter" but actually prefer "saved searches" now. Well because they are, aren't they? Makes things easier to understand. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

good point Kol - Alejandro

Voice chat in groups could be nice :) - Nir Ben Yona

Thank you! - Iván Abrego

I use filters a lot and now on the HP Mini I have to scroll down the window to get to the next filter I want to check which then scrolls the page back up to the top after picking it. I have nine filters that I check probably once an hour. The page scrolling is tedious to go through. Is there a way you could move Filters up above Groups either manually or automatically based on most common use? - Loren Heiny

Thank you! Navigating to groups/rooms was a pain. - amygeek

Nice Job, I like it. It feels simpler and will be welcoming to new users. - Poor Gamer

I also don't care for the name change at the top of the "Search results." The name of the search was better at least for how I use it. I can see the actual search criteria in the seach box. I don't need it in both places. Plus, when I'm clicking through a list of saved searches one at a time I often forget where I am in the list. The title helped me keep track. - Loren Heiny

Kewl! - Charlie Anzman

Love it. Thank you guys very much! - Josh Haley

"Atom feeds" are not a "small missing components"!!! :) .. as on abay +++++AAAA+++AAAA for beta.FriendFeed - CantorJF

Just noticed the new groups sidebar. Thank you! - Carmen wBabby

Seems like the green box should be titled "Friend Lists" (in an actual Friends list, I'd expect to see Joe, Mary, Bob, etc. -- right now, there's a pretty big disconnect btw typical user expectations and what's appearing in that box). And maybe the browse/edit should then be titled "Browse/edit friend lists". - Christopher Galtenberg

Even more unexpected is that when I click on Friends, I also see Groups. There should probably be another split, so we have Lists, Friends, and Groups. Bret, you guys are going to run out of colors soon! :) - Daniel Sims

And would you *please* give us custom backgrounds and colors? - Gaby K. Slezák

Karl: tried it, but it only brings up a new filter again. If one could edit one's "saved searches list by the NAME of the filter, it'd be easy to delete it. But your suggestion didn't bring up anything that could help me get rid of the two empty filters. Neither has a delete button. - George Hall (Australia)

Ana is a boat enthusiast? - Benjamin Golub

Karl:don't know whether my desktop wasn't showing the left-side bar, but late last night, I was looking at a list of my saved searches with the delete button active for all things in the list. Finally got rid of those two items that were only bringing up a search/filter page. That left-side bar with all listed searches is an elegant solution. - George Hall (Australia)

Dont like it. No longer can get Twit Conversations to show up in Groups.. only in Home even if I add it to Groups! - Greg

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