hey holly. I hear it hasn't been a great week... hang in there, it's almost the weekend (of course, my weekend is just about over, as I have to go back to work tomorrow)
- Bren, Photophobe
Everyone please listen: The United States is, and has been, a Marxist State for many, many years. Why, you ask, were you not aware? You failed to recognize certain *obvious* Marxist characteristics. I will list them here for you.
1. Because of the government liquidation of toxic mortgage assets in giant banks, and because people who could not pay their mortgage are going to get to continue to live in their homes if they choose to rent them from the government. This, according to some, constitutes Marx's plank of abolishing private property and then charging the former owners rent. Never mind the fact that...
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- Bren, Photophobe
2. Because we have a graduated or progressive income tax. I suppose if we didn't need any government services, we wouldn't need taxes...good luck with that.
- Bren, Photophobe
3. Because in the mind of some, the so called death-tax equals the abolition of the right of inheritance. I'm not in favor of such punitive inheritance taxes, but I would hardly equate the tax with abolition of inheritance rights.
- Bren, Photophobe
4. Forfeiture laws = confiscation of property from emigrants and rebels. (if someone could give me a good example of a "forfeiture law" that allows for the confiscation of property from any particular group, I'd be interested)
- Bren, Photophobe
5. This one I had to lift in whole from another thread: "Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. I wonder how they plan to structure this whole global currency thing?" Apparently, if you bank with ... well, anyone, you should expect that bank to go away soon. I'll be the one holding my breath over here...
- Bren, Photophobe
6. The state owns the trains (which no one uses). The State owns (part of) two (essentially failed) car companies. Apparently, this is sufficient to meet the "Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state." Oh, and the government is bringing legal action against "Conservative media outlets." Those outlets still exist, of course, but never mind that minor fact.
- Bren, Photophobe
7. This one confuses me a little, but here we go: Because giant corporations (not the state) have pushed family farms out of business, and because giant corporations (again, not the state) have moved factories over-seas, that somehow satisfies the "extension of state owned industrial and agricultural production" part of being a Marxist state.
- Bren, Photophobe
The state only owns some of the passenger trains. The freight trains, the majority of traffic, are still owned by various companies descended from the original railroad barons.
- Spidra Webster
8. We have unions. Apparently, that's all that need be said about the "equal liability for labor" plank.
- Bren, Photophobe
I'm a bit confused, Bren. What is the source for this? It's not your analysis, I take it...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
9. Social engineering and community planning. Those aren't ambiguous and easily re-interpreted terms.
- Bren, Photophobe
There you have it. Unequivocal proof that we are a Marxist state, and that Obama (and anyone else whose policies align with the previous 10 statements) is a Marxist. just ask pitlord. #TGOR
- Bren, Photophobe
No Brent, it's not mine. I just had it explained to me, and I wanted to share. I was rather joyful to find that I lived in a Marxist state. I always thought I lived in a democratic republic, and a capitalist society. I mean, I am a salesperson, and I know my company is publicly traded, but it is most assuredly *not* state owned. Apparently, small details such as that are irrelevant.
- Bren, Photophobe
by the way, if you hadn't seen it before, my new hashtag is #TGOR ... "tenuous grip on reality" I intend to use it whenever I see political analysis that resorts to ad hominem, bogus arguments based on nothing more than bugaboo keywords and bogeymen in red-star berets to scare us into inaction.
- Bren, Photophobe
I only ask one thing: if you participate in a conversation with me regarding conservatives, I ask that you not use the term "wingnuts" or any other derogatory term. I choose to believe that the people who display such passion are patriots, even if they are misguided in their expression of their patriotism. I welcome debate based on facts. I even welcome pitlord's contention that, based on his analysis of Marxism, Obama is a Marxist.
- Bren, Photophobe
I wish to retract my previous dismissal of his argument that Obama is a Marxist, because it is clear that in his mind, this is a logical conclusion. His analysis is sound, from a certain point of view. I presented it in very condensed form here, with a link to the more complete conversation, because I think that it bears further discussion. I leave it to you to decide whether his analysis is rational or not.
- Bren, Photophobe
"we can walk together, why can't we rock together?"
- Bren, Photophobe
I used to listen to a ton of 7 Seconds back when I was a skate punk.
- Akiva Moskovitz
me too, Akiva. Kevin lived in Sacramento when I was in college, and I ran into him a lot... I wish he had been a more friendly guy... but his music was always my favorite punk/skate music
- Bren, Photophobe
This song is an anthem. I was always annoyed with Kevin Seconds as a person, because he really could have been nicer, but this song is awesome. (Bren when were you in college? Did you hang out at Capitol Garage?)
- Kendra K
I was in college from 92-98. I did spend some time at Capitol Garage, but I usually saw Kevin at Espresso Metropolitan over next to Sac City College. The first time I met him was at the Safeway on Alhambra, in the frozen food aisle... ;)
- Bren, Photophobe
Ahhh!!! I hung out at CG from 1996-2000 when I moved to Berkeley for school. I know people loved Go National, but I was more into the Troublemakers and the Groovie Ghoulies. He's done a lot for the scene, but... yeah.
- Kendra K
Groovie Ghoulies were awesome. I get even more old-skool, though... do you remember Deftones before they were Emo? When they were wannabe RHCP punk-funk guys? or Phallucy? My best friend was the bassist/lead singer for the HeeBee GeeBees (Originally Uncle Funk). I still have a cassette tape of them doing "976 Girls" live in the studio with Abe Cunningham and Stephen Carpenter...
- Bren, Photophobe
The Deftones were good for a hot minute! I don't remember HeeBee GeeBees. I just went back and started listening to LGS again, oh the memories. And the Sea Pigs. Love the Sea Pigs (and Lizards).
- Kendra K