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Joe Gregorio, editor of the Atom Publishing Protocol specification (http://bitworking.org/projects...), gives a video introduction to how the protocol works. Great intro to general REST concepts as well. - DeWitt Clinton
Or is that the AtomPub spec ;) - Dion Almaer
I was going to keep calling it AtomPub anyway. : ) - DeWitt Clinton
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“Coming up on two years without taking a break. Love to take a little time off, but have some big things coming out soon. Granted, I really just want a week or two away to write some code without distractions...”
Thursday at 9:10 pm - Link
Having a couple of days of this week felt like 2 weeks. Amazing what expectations do to you. We need to move to Europe my friend ;) - Dion Almaer
If I can convince Switzerland that I deserve citizenship by virtue of geographic birthright, then I'm cleared to work in the EU and I'm right there with you! - DeWitt Clinton
Just take the time off. There will never be a good time and there will always be big things coming out soon. Two years without a break isn't good for you. - Erica Baker
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“I've been doing a lot of posting in FriendFeed, which makes me wonder if it would be cool to have my posts here reflected in Twitter?”
July 15 at 12:36 pm - Link
I think some people use Twitterfeed to pull the RSS feed for FriendFeed posts into Twitter - Shey
Watch the 140 character limit - Hutch Carpenter
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Couldn't you direct your FF RS to twitterfeed, and have it auto post your posts to Twitter? - Helen
What does it do with posts from Twitter that are reflected to FriendFeed? Does it send them back to Twitter which then would send them to FF, etc etc forever. - Dave Winer
That's almost the reverse of what most are doing: Posting to Twitter and having it go to FriendFeed. Are you looking for an automatic way to take Internal FriendFeed posts, and have something automatically send them to Twitter with a bit.ly URL? - Louis Gray
I wonder the same thing. On the one hand, there are followers on each network that would otherwise miss out on your postings. On the other, you likely have serious overlap who'll get redundant postings. And, of course, if you have your Twitter posts auto-feed into FriendFeed, you'll have an open loop. - James Joyner
Of course I've written my own reflector and this post is here as a test. :-) - Dave Winer
http://friendfeed.com/e/7fd9f9... - Dave Winer
My reflector doesn't reflect posts that come from Twitter only if they originate on FF. - Dave Winer
Actually it's a 95 character limit when you add the overhead of "[From FriendFeed]: " and the shortened url linking to the FF post. - Dave Winer
There would be technical problems (FriendFeed posts can exceed Twitter's character limitations), and you'd lose all of the context of the comments that may be attached to the FriendFeed post. That having been said, perhaps a "reshare" to Twitter may be desirable; don't know if I'd use it, though. - Ontario Emperor
I'm worried that redundant postings from other people's feeds are increasing the challenge of following quality posts. Still confused as to the best "home" for different types of content (knowing content never stays home). - Kawika Holbrook
I don't send comments, just posts. - Dave Winer
I tend to do it the other way around. Using Twitter to post here. But I have been trying to build a "funnel" that take comments and replies and brings them to one point. Plus a concept like Ping.fm could work for posting. Run everything into a dashboard like the way Tweetdeck works and then I can stop this jumping from site to site, from software to software crap and go to one place. - Stephan Miller
Dave...I was going to use a service called Ping.fm...but I found it was producing duplicate posts in FriendFeed...i.e. I post to Ping.fm a status update, and it updates my FF, Twitter, Pownce, etc. But then FF displays the FF posting, Twitter post and Pownce post...It'd be nice if FriendFeed recognized that the posts were identical and consolidated them. - Sean McGee
Imagine if Twitter were stable, opened its protocols for anyone to duplicate (a-la identi.ca) and got groovy with importing, commenting, and/or bookmarking. They could rely on their brand, advertising and future brand management tools to pay the bills. (Really, I just want one service that works well with different types of content and conversations so I don't have to keep flitting about services.) - Kawika Holbrook
Dave, what I do is post on Ping.fm which posts on various services including Twitter, and then I have Twitter pulled by Frienfeed. Of course, that's for things that have less than the 140 character limit. (BTW, ping.fm still doesn't post on FriendFeed, or is it?) - Jorge Escobar
I was using ping.fm to post to twitter & identi.ca, and had them both coming into FFeed. The repetition in FFeed was a pain, so now my default ping.fm posts to all three, and FFeed does NOT pick up twitter & identi.ca. Now my tweeps only see dups if they follow me on more than one service. Still far from ideal. Meanwhile, if I have an identi.ca-specific post to make (for example), I can do it in ping.fm using "@ff @id", I guess. - Tegan Dowling
I know I need to look at all the routing on my feeds, as I'm duplicating stuff. in here - Ian May
Why put "[From FriendFeed]" ? Does that add context that is important? We just want want the content, and it gives you more characters to work with :) - Dion Almaer
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"Visiting Web sites that have been redesigned for the iPhone is often a quicker and more pleasing experience than it is on those increasingly cinema-style desktop displays, which routinely have 20-inch or larger screens." - Kevin Scott via Bookmarklet
Yes, constraints often mean that we have to take more time to make sure that it works, which ends up with better quality. I still am a read-mostly iPhone user though. The thought of typing much, until they get a darn bluetooth keyboard, freaks me out. - Dion Almaer
Steven P Jobs? Mr Jobs? Ok, I'm tired of the phoney talk. - j1m
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Facebook’s iPhone App (Almost) Replaces My Contacts List
July 10 at 10:30 pm - Link
I think less than 35% of my contacts are on Facebook - Chris White
And there are some in Facebook that aren't in Addressbook.app and Gmail and... - Dion Almaer
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giz said it was buggy though... Did it crash on you yet? - Chad via twhirl
I'm not anti-Facebook app, I'm just saying that it doesn't replace contacts. - Chris White
Not yet. I would rather see Contacts pull from other resources. FB has the advantage (as do other sites) of having up to date information. - Dion Almaer
The login form was buggy, finally got it to work, and then the app crashed for me. - Bret Taylor
Okay, lets be clear. Facebook is never going to replace the contacts app. - Chris White
Not almost for me, my contacts lists is much more comprehensive than my facebook contacts list. - Rajiv Doshi
Chris White: For my sister-in-law it will. For some folk, FB is their contacts. Just not you and I :) - Dion Almaer
So what we need is a "Plaxo Contacts iPhone app" that layers personal and shared contact information together - but have it come from a company without the spam-baggage that Plaxo carries and the wall-garden-baggage that Facebook carries. - Jonathan Berger
I think it would be nice if everyone did get on facebook. Something like their contacts app could then pretty much solve the 'contacts' problem once and for all - Charlie via twhirl
Yeah, parents should all get on their kids Facebooks. No problem. - Chris White
Jonathan Berger, perhaps it's time to let bygones be bygones? Plenty of companies have done stupid, albeit not intentionally evil things, and gone on to offer awesome stuff. As a former Plaxo contractor, I'm biased, but I think the bloggerati haterade's been way overdone in this situation. - Adam Lasnik
Thanks, Adam! (I head up marketing at Plaxo.) Also worth noting in this space is an initiative quietly gaining serious momentum, Portable Contacts. http://portablecontacts.net/ - John McCrea
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Did that via MobileFlickr || Exposure || .... :) - Dion Almaer
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Do i Like this here, or Digg it there? - phil baumann
It would be nice if you did either, that it would do both :) - Dion Almaer
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I am not taking sides ;) - Ben
Well if FF would link to the actual Digg page, it would make it a lot easier to Digg! I usually just hope the linked page has a Digg badge on it. - Paul Reynolds
If you digg it, it will show up as an item in your FF, if you just Like it it won't. - Bryan Clark
um. fruit? vegetables? - revrev via twhirl
yummmyyyyy - justine
And the 11 best foods you aren't eating: http://tinyurl.com/575lbh - james svenson
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They should have bought the Core Developers Network.... or SpringSource! ;) - Dion Almaer
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JavaScript, Rebranded….. Check.
July 7 at 10:02 pm - Link
By 'rebranding' you mean 'was non-existant until FireFox added XmlHttpRequest()'? Because that's what kicked off 'Ajax'. Before then, there was nothing to respectably call AJAX except on IE. Find a copy of Netscape 4.75 and write me a little AJAX anything and then come back and explain to me how 'rebranding' works :) - Chad Myers
@Chad Myers, Yes, FF adding XMLHttpRequest was key. But it was still a lot later until JJG coined Ajax and it really started to take off. Microsoft and XHR + FF implementing it too + great examples like Google Suggest, Google Maps, Gmail and then finally a *designer* puts it all together... and we end up with Ajax. - Dion Almaer
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Twitter May Buy Summize
July 7 at 3:23 pm - Link
Makes sense. I would love to be able to have summize tracking right in the same river of Twitter news. - Dion Almaer
Good idea. Maybe they'll fix Twitter by just moving the whole thing over to Summize, which doesn't crash. - Marshall Sponder
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why not? - Tom Guarriello
Where would they get the money? Neither has business model. For users though, it makes sense. - Ralph Poole
Sounds good as long as they don't outfit Summize with fail whale error pages - Soso Sazesh
the demise of summize. - Matt Musgrave
Ralph, Twitter has 20.6M in funding. They are also rebuilding Twitter in parallel to the public facing site. Summize would be a quick "rebuild" of the Replies tab. All they'd have to do is integrate it. - Aaron Brazell
Would tie in nicely with what we wrote about last week when we found out that Summize have almost-exclusive access to XMPP from Twitter (and hence a full copy of all data): http://www.techcrunchit.com/20... - Nik Cubrilovic
I agree, this SHOULD happen. I recently reviewed the search functionality of Summize against many of its competitors, as well as commented on how Summize can effectively create AdHoc social networks for Twitter based on search parameters: http://linkbun.ch/jmv - Jake Fudge
Ralph, "for users" doesn't make too much sense. I would bet that 95%+ of summize users use it to augment twitter's search. It makes sense though because they have search nailed. Also, saying that "it doesn't crash" isn't a very good argument either... it has relatively no load and doesn't need to dispatch (push, or pull at run-time) the tweets to different people.. only pull when someone searches. - Eric Kerr
maybe buying Summize will end up being the solution to Twitter downtime. - Marshall Sponder
Seems odd they would increase Summizes worth directly by telling users to use it when the replies were diaabled shortly before looking to buy it. - Michael W. May via twhirl
Summize rocks, and it would make total sense. - Ian Betteridge
Is there somebody at summarize worth buying? - Brian Sullivan
twitter acquiring summize is a short-term goodwill play - here's my full take - basically it would kill summize's ambitions of tracking the real-time conversational web - http://www.centernetworks.com/... - Allen Stern
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Adobe Gets Sensitive About AIR Trademark
July 7 at 3:19 pm - Link
"We did look into giving him permission to use the trademark but for whatever reason that wasn't going to work. I don't know the legal specifics of why not, but we've been working closely with him for a while to find a compromise. And we still are. =Ryan rstewart@adobe.com" - Ryan Stewart
Trademark law is broken. This happened with Java, and happens all the time. It is frustrating that you can't seem to legally say "this guy is OK" without giving up the rights to your TM. However, in this case it is a bit weird as he doesn't use "Adobe AIR", so there should be enough wiggle room. - Dion Almaer
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“Bob: "Why does the singularity scare you so much?" Ana: "Because I had never heard of it before lunch, and now it seems imminent."”
July 7 at 1:54 pm - Link
We have fun lunchtime conversations here at the FriendFeed headquarters :) (for those of you who haven't heard the term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...) - Bret Taylor
Haha nice. It seems pretty inevitable, which is both exciting and scary :/ - Dion Almaer
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There's a lot of misinformation about what "singulatarians" actually believe. Not everyone agrees with Ray Kurzweil's notions that he'll live long enough to upload his consciousness. The best resource I've found is Michael Annissmov's Accelerating Future blog: http://www.acceleratingfuture.... - Dan Kaplan
I'm all for it, only I say let Kurzweil go first when comes to the first downloading of brain contents. That way if something is missing, we'll know pretty quick ;-) - Dean Terry
Interesting, we were just talking about this last night: http://friendfeed.com/e/b3ce29... Doing a quick search, looks like singularity is on the brain of Friendfeed lately. Ooooooeeeeeoooo. - Mark Trapp
As long as more and more people spend all their time on FriendFeed, there won't be too much AI technology being developed. :) - Chris White
i think its at least a few years off, so you can relax, plenty of time for you to get used to it before it happens :P - bob
It's just amazing that I haven't seen any of the movies where this happens (Terminator, iRobot, etc.). What else are people working on from within the FriendFeed headquarters that can kill me? :) - Ana
I'm not convinced. still disconcerting as hell though. - Marco
ana, i think someone is working on doomsday devices over in the furniture graveyard :P - bob
Here's the essay that introduced the singularity concept - http://mindstalk.net/vinge/vin.... Fantastic read. - Michael Nielsen
I took Computer Ethics at SDSU (where Vinge taught) and one of our assignments was to compare Vinge's singularity essay to Ted Kaczynski's "Unabomber Manifesto." The similarities are rather striking. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but it is extremely fascinating the differing approach people take to similar topics. - Brooks Bishop
to counterbalance computers that are super smart, we need humans who are freakishly strong. - eviltom
I always thought the first sign of the singularity was twitter. sigh - Elad
@Brooks Bishop see also Bill Joy's wired essay: http://www.wired.com/wired/arc... - Nick Lothian
Thanks for posting that link to Vinge's essay, Michael. You're right - a mind-boggling read on a fascinating subject that hadn't really crossed my radar until reading this terrific thread. Makes me appreciate FF all the more for putting it in front of me. Could its increasing popularity be another of the early signs indicating the onset of the Singularity? I think we should be told. - Bob Kingsley
movies are pretty bad at showing the future; they tend to show things that *look* cool - Amit Patel
@nick: Thanks for that wired link. Thanks to all for discussing this topic - very interesting. - nadim
Since there seems to be interest, most of the best reading on this is SciFi. Vinge's "Rainbow End" and Stross's "Accelerando" are probably the best "What happens when (if) the Singularity happens" books. (Interesting to note that Vinge is an ex CompSci professor and Stross is an ex-perl hacker). If you want to get scared by the singularity read "A Fire Upon the Deep", though. - Nick Lothian
@Nick: thanks for the link to the Bill Joy essay. Another fascinating, absorbing read. - Bob Kingsley
Ana, you should keep your eyes out for human sized bugs, among other things. - Clare Dibble
I'm a singularity skeptic - increasing compute power doesn't solve basic problems like global warming. - Piaw Na
Will the Singularity happen? Never say never, although I am a skeptic. I do think most Singularitarians completely underestimate the complexity of human biology and by orders of magnitude - Deepak
That's actually a pretty common response. Interesting side: I knew my wife was a keeper when she instantly took to the idea, not frightened or put off at all. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
@Deepak agreed, and there's also the matter of assuming that they've figured out and are right about basic metaphysical issues argued for centuries. As we've learned in recent years, certainty can be dangerous. Like I said above: Kurzweil goes first! - Dean Terry
I've said this before, I really like and agree with Kurzwiel but I have issues with the diet of 100s of pills a day (to make it to the singularity) and the very odd alter ego his future self becomes. I'm also troubled by the poor graphics on his site :) They really need some of that exponential love. - Doug Brooks
Kurtzweils accelerated returns theory is probably true and implies an upcoming singularity event. But the singularity is crucially dependent on the computing-biology interface and I agree with @Deepak and @Dean terry that biology is the limiting factor and that biomedicine is not in the steep part of the S-curve, - yet.......The singularity must come at some point however, and unlike @Amit Patel, I believe it will look extremely cool.... - SciPhu
This item quoting Kurzweil turned up on BBC News in February 2008: http://snipurl.com/2vfva - "Machines to match man by 2029". - Bob Kingsley
@Deepak etc I'm also a skeptic. There was a good podcast from ITConversations about some of the barriers to the singularity - I can't remember who it was by or even what conference it was from, though. - Nick Lothian
I'm not sure about an ITConversations podcast, but there's a 2004 Long Now talk from Bruce Sterling where he explains why he's skeptical: http://www.longnow.org/project... - Jen Dodd
@Piaw, it does if the Singularity decimates or destroys humans and our demand for housing, transportation, food, and other global warming activity. - John Lam
btw you should read the gentle seduction by seigler - arjun
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Doesn't Apple have enough of that talent? Let's spread it around to have other beautiful apps :) - Dion Almaer
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