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David Muir › Comments
Almost nobody understood my earlier webapp idea, so I'll try again. Imagine you were looking at a website such as FriendFeed and you wanted to create a near pixel-perfect copy but in a way that you could move things around, adjust shadows, etc. I want a tool that makes that easy.
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And without taking screenshots or copying the html, since the point is that it should have the power to quickly create something that looks just like our current ui. Also, it should be web based, because then fonts, etc will be right, and also I hate installing things. My previous attempt at explaining this: http://friendfeed.com/e... (Balsamiq is not what I want). It does not need to produce html though, so it can cheat anyway it likes.
- Paul Buchheit
So you wanna something like "html to png/psd"? Editable graphical interface with layers and stuff?
- Selim Yoruk
No, not at all. My point is that you could look at the the FriendFeed ui (with your eyes) and then create something that looked just like it.
- Paul Buchheit
Fireworks is pixel perfect, correct font sizes and previews image in browser. Yes/No?
- Toby Graham
Are you looking for something like what is mentioned in this article - http://www.labnol.org/interne...
- Atul Arora
Are you want something like web-based rich page editor which works with objects in manner the human see them and want change them?
- gmarketer
I guess it's difficult to explain something that doesn't exist :(
- Paul Buchheit
thats piracy!!!
- Arjun
Paul, I like the idea, it's got merit. There's plenty of tools that do half the job, that is, snip the page. The second part, i'm not overly familiar with the tools out there. The manipulation. I guess you could snip the page, and embed into your tool a js library, like scriptaculous, and attach special event significance to the controls/tags, for moving, dropping, dragging.
- Stu Andrews
I think I get what you mean now and I agree. That's not very helpful but hey. In the mean time you could edit the page live using firebug maybe?
- Toby Graham
It seems to me like you want the Visual Studio Win Forms designer for web apps hosted and served to designers as a web app. Drag and drop elements onto the page and adjust their properties in a property grid. Then send a link to others so you can share your concept.
- Eric Schoonover
For this, I use simple vector graphics editing app, like Xara or InkScape - I just make screenshots and use them as raw building blocks - usually I cut out from them small elements like controls/text-blocks/images/etc... In vector graphics enironment managing such kind of blocks is much more easier than in photoshop.
- Phil Smirnov
remembers that this idea has been described by David Siegel in 1997 in his book : Creating Killer Web Sites (http://tinyurl.com/5skw63)
- Oaksun
Paul, i think the edit-page command on ubiquity with the ability to: visually edit css and publish the changes is close to what you are describing.
- Ian
Eric pretty much nailed the description of the dream tool that I think Paul was asking for. In my dream the web app is truly collaborative and has an active GUI. So you can adjust those properties using a mouse or tablet and anyone else on your design team can watch as you do it so they can make suggestions and modifications as you work.
- David Muir
Let's say you want to make a mockup of FriendFeed called "FriendFood". You want it to generally have the same layout, only the top blue bar will actually have a background made of lasagna and a font that is made of French fries, and what shows on the page is everything people write about food on the regular FF, like "pasta OR bean OR potato OR steak". But you'd like someone to be able to do that from the web and without messing into much coding. Is that it?
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
http://blogoscoped.com/video...
- Philipp Lenssen
I use OmniGraffle for this purpose.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Could you achieve it by using Firebug and tweaking the CSS?
- Shakeel Mahate
So something with the usability of say, omnigraffle, but that only used webkit for its rendering. With text controlled and positioned by actual css so that line spacing etc were correct, although again with a simpler UI than CSS has.
- Robin Barooah
Paul - I _just_ came across a site that did exactly that. Unfortunately, Safari's browser history is failing me and I can't find it anymore. Doh!
- Patrick Lightbody
Paul, not sure if you're still reading, but are you looking for interaction design changes as well, or just appearance?
- Mark Trapp
Did you try "PENCIL" an add-on for Firefox http://www.evolus.vn/Pencil/
- Francois Lamotte
I had never heard of Pencil, but it sure looks a lot like what I think Paul is describing.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I use ScrapBook Firefox extension to capture the page as is, and then edit that using Firebug.
- Jughead
Paul, I totally got you first time - anyone who thinks it's not a good idea has plainly misunderstood :-) It's the next step up from sketching out your UI on paper, n'est pas?
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
Thanks @Francois. Pencil looks quite promising...
- Ashwin Bharambe
Firefox Webchunks? Does only the snipping part though. Perhaps an add-on to webchunks that will let us use all those chunks together.
- Vamsee
it'd be kind of like pushing edit on a wiki, right. like, firefox would have an edit button then you could visually redo the page
- Coleman Foley
There's also Axure RP, something I found a while ago. http://www.google.com/search...
- Jauder Ho
Dosen't ASP.Net do that already???
- Roberto Bonini
One quick tip in Photoshop is to turn off anti-aliasing and use your various web fonts (Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, etc.) and use your preferred font size in pixels/points... This will provide you with screen accurate font appearances and sizes. The biggest problem with a "pixel-perfect" browser rendering is that it will never be consistent from browser to browser. They all render ever...
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- Nathan Chase
House of Imagination | Imagine Greater | Syfy - http://www.syfy.com/imagine...
Very nice work. I still hate "SyFy" as a name but this media work is excellent.
- David Muir
Information Arbitrage: Where and How am I Investing in Early-Stage Today? - http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2008...
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"Given the uncertainty of ad spending, the tremendous dollars going into digital media, the increasingly competitive landscape and the jittery global financial markets, I have added a few criteria to my check-list: * Initially sells to the enterprise for branding, credibility, awareness and early revenues * Can get to revenues within 6 months, tops * Is sold on the basis of ROI, e.g., helps generate revenues or reduce headcount/costs * Integrates easily with existing platforms and/or programs * Either leverages existing open source programs or can itself become partially or fully open source * Has multiple revenue streams, e.g., software, maintenance, services, etc."
- Andrew Badera
from Bookmarklet
couple stretch items on his list but nice of him to share
- mike "glemak" dunn
I was wondering which ones seem a stretch? I was reading this and it describes a startup I am working with to a "T".
- David Muir
12.5-25x seems a stretch to me ... that's grand slam territory. not unachievable, but not by any means "common".
- Andrew Badera
I tend to agree. But I read through and was trying to glean when the exit for the VC would be; after how many years? According to my calculations, asset value growth of over 30% per year still means a 13 year wait on an initial investment of $1 million to walk away with $25 million.
- David Muir
VC is almost always in terms of a ~5 year exit strategy I thought ...
- Andrew Badera
VC is evil. Smart CEOs do everything they can to avoid this route.
- Geoff Livingston
Everyone would love to bootstrap Geoff, but it's not a matter of "smart" vs. "dumb" it's a matter of practicality and pragmatism.
- Andrew Badera
25x return selling into enterprise space which tends to see rapid fast followers and commoditization is one stretch david... not all vc's are evil geoff but certainly some are - expect it's probably same ratio as general life ;) a huge percentage of today's businesses have leveraged vc funding when in proof of concept phase so they (we) serve a purpose... andrew's pragmatic statement is right on...
- mike "glemak" dunn
here's a few more stretches now that i'm on a laptop & not my iphone - 1) revenue in 6 months along w/ selling into enterprise is a challenge since enterprise sales cycles are notoriously long for any company let alone an unproven startup 2) integrates easily in an enterprise space is an oxymoron - again, its a good post and not all things stated are stretches (plus it is his fund so his call)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
sorry one more, the positive: "intersection of web services, network performance and cloud computing. More and more enterprises will shift portions of their processing, services and storage to the cloud, as the imperatives of cost reduction, scalability and flexibility take hold." - i think this is right on and valid, i'm seeing the same sorts of companies approach me and can't fault their biz models...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Andrew/Gregory, I actually clarified this in another comment thread. What I mean is that it takes no more than $1-$2 million to know if you've got a $25-$50 million business. I take lots of risk. I just want to make sure the business doesn't require loads of capital to know whether or not it is likely to get the traction required to be successful. It may well make sense to raise an additional $2-$3 million in a Series A to help the company execute its growth plan, and I'm ok with that.
- Roger
Gotcha, thanks Roger, makes sense.
- Andrew Badera
Scientists capture the first image of memories being made - http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_rel...
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Amazing research on the formation of long-term memory. They have actually captured an image of the process happening.
- David Muir
Re: Yet another ode to the NYT (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Every time I hear a story like this, I cringe. It is the ponderous nature of corporations and government that absolutely gets in the way of progress. Even if your hour-long "dabble" didn't prove to be the perfect solution, iterating on it would have produced successful results (I strongly suspect) in well under three months, let alone three years. For some reason, in addition to choosing pondering over action, complexity is preferred over simplicity. Is it to justify technologists existence? After all, if it is simple, anyone could do it. (Was it Mark Twain who said: "sorry this is so long but I didn't have time to make it shorter"? The same goes for complexity versus simplicity.) Thanks for the insight, Dave."
- David Muir
For June, TV outlook is a mixed bag at best - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin...
"June 29: Oh, boy. Oxygen has a reality series about overweight people called "Dance Your Ass Off" at 10 p.m. No, that's not a joke."
- Jason Toney
from Bookmarklet
meanwhile, next week you can start watching the closer, weeds, and the very good (and pictured) Nurse Jackie.
- Jason Toney
I'm looking forward to new scripted drama series... no matter how lame. The Listener and The Philanthropist will both get my eyeballs in June. I'll be getting to the three that Abby mentioned too (Leverage, Burn Notice, and True Blood)... loved them all last season.
- David Muir
Should I start watching Burn Notice? I didn't get with it in it's first season and so I'm shy to jump in. I've given up on In Plain Sight now so there are some slots.
- Jason Toney
So, is there really no way to develop for the iphone without a mac and OS X 10.5? I am ignoring the hackintosh option.
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I am too interested to hear an answer to this question.
- Mladen Srdić
There's the "iPhone optimized website" option, but that's not really all that great. You need Xcode to compile and sign the binaries, and Xcode only exists on Mac OS X. Who knows? Maybe they'll release Xcode for Windows next week at WWDC.
- Mark Trapp
StackOverflow says you either need to jailbreak your phone or run OS X in a virtual machine or via hackintosh efforts: http://stackoverflow.com/questio... Both would void your contract with Apple, but supposedly people have done it anyway.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, I am trying to stay as legal as possible to avoid possible issues later. The hackintosh option is way too time consuming for me as well. I thought about the VM option and may be forced that direction because of the cost of hardware.
- Rob Diana
I was disappointed my hardware set up precluded me from doing iPhone apps. If there's any other way I would like to hear about it.
- David Muir
Officially you need a mac
- Kiran Patchigolla
Re: twdsc.us: @davewiner. "A friend is launching a site that says: "Only contributors can log in because we don't care what anonymous Internet commenters think." :-)" - http://twdsc.us/95...
"I like responsible comments and I tend to see more of those from identified sources. The anonymous ones are often (as Dave points out) "attack" oriented or (as SoItsComeToThis points out) lacking in depth (the "you suck" comments being bad for both reasons). I like the approach of having all contributors identified. I can't do that yet because I have nowhere near critical mass on my site -- but I also have low enough traffic that I can personally moderate comments still."
- David Muir
Re: twdsc.us: @jayrosen_nyu. ""It's not about saving newspapers, it's about saving journalism!!!!" Tim Rutten didn't get that memo http://tr.im/mTRD" - http://twdsc.us/66...
"Pelosi said the antitrust law needs to be adjusted to "reflect current market realities"? Allowing collusion among newspapers is only a very temporary fix and doesn't address any of the core issues. "The significant problems we face cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them." --Albert Einstein"
- David Muir
Home burglarized after owner 'twittered' he was leaving town - Phoenix Arizona - http://www.abc15.com/content...
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"A family is out thousands of dollars after they typed that they were leaving town on the social messaging site called Twitter." - "We live pretty public lives," said Israel Hyman, "I do have a strong presence on Twitter and a pretty strong presence on the Internet as a whole because that's how we make our living."
- Christopher Harley
from Bookmarklet
I just ate the mango that the burglars would have taken had they known I hid it in the living room bookcase.
- Christopher Harley
You sure showed them.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Always thinkin'
- Christopher Harley
I always wonder how criminals and drug dealers are using social networks
- andy brudtkuhl
Don't you mean criminals, drug dealers, and life coaches?
- Christopher Harley
Stories like this are why my dad is so private, semi-paranoid. He's a smart man.
- Josh Haley
We're incredibly private, too. For the most part.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I tend to update only after I return.
- Morton Fox
Folks should do their own research on themselves. Find out what can't be learned about you from your presence on the web. List everything that would be meaningful to a criminal and scale back from there. It isn't hard to learn where people work and to call the office to verify that they're in and not at home. Voter registration quickly points to where you live. They don't give it out...
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- Christopher Harley
Shit! I never realized it was Israel Hyman from Izzy Video http://twitter.com/izzyvideo He's done so much great work helping aspiring videographers. sad ;(
- Christopher Harley
I'll be at home polishing my shotgun tonight, all night, every night, ad infinitum, social media burglars. . . . as far as you know.
- Dave Roth
LOL @Dave. I was thinking: if I ever say I am leaving town, that is code for me waiting in the dark with a taser and a squad of Robbery Homicide detectives.
- David Muir
We usually ask a bachelor friend to house sit in exchange for beer and a few meals. It works out well.
- Heather Solos
Sucks,but completely unsurprising.
- Captain Bubbles
Rebooting the News - http://rebootnews.com/
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Dave Winer and Jay Rosen are thought leaders in the push to rethink the news business. While they don't always agree, they bring a variety of perspectives to what is inevitably going to be a defining period in the history of journalism, print media, and related technology.
- David Muir
If the music industry was really serious about combating piracy, they would have pooled their resources together and done what Sony tried to do: make a common music file format that can only be played on approved players and purchased from approved channels.
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Seriously disagree...this would not work either. They would seriously have tried to increase access to the music, keep costs down and not push so much crap on consumers who just want one song.
- Alex Scoble
Two words for why this would work, given the right leverage, Alex: American Idol.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I hate Sony for that. Their own proprietary software, memory sticks, etc. is a big pain.
- Derrick
I guess we can thank the music industry's collective greed for this not happening. If they weren't trying to bilk each other for the maximum amount of profit, they very well could have done this.
- Steven Perez
from IM
It wouldn't work because they would all agree on a very weak protection scheme that would be broken in a week, not to mention they would all agree on mediocre encoding scheme as well that would sound like ass that no one would want to buy.
- Alex Scoble
They are in the position they are in because they are idiots...so any attempt they would have made to combat piracy would have also been stupid.
- Alex Scoble
Not complete idiots, Alex. They got Steve Jobs to put out a mp3 player and a media player that locks up your music with DRM and funky protection schemes in order to keep you from sharing your music. And then they got people to buy into it.
- Steven Perez
from IM
"Hey, I just bought a new hard drive. I want to move my iTunes library to it. How easy is that gonna be?" o_O
- Steven Perez
from IM
Hehe, Steven, you have it backwards...Apple dragged the music industry kicking and screaming towards the iPod and DRM AAC, not the other way around. And the DRM is now gone thanks to Amazon. If it wasn't for those companies, the music industry would be completely dead, instead of just dying.
- Alex Scoble
And yet, can I play my FLAC or Ogg Vorbis music files on an iPod? NOPE. Apple learned, all right - they kept their DRM in place until they could no longer profit from it. Why is it that an OS that a bunch of volunteer coders came up with to play on their older devices gives me a richer experience than the native OS's that come with standard with the players?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Artificially limiting access seems to be a broken business model all over. Sony CEO saying the Internet is the worst thing ever, Rupert Murdoch figuring he can charge for news, and RIAA execs running around suing grandmothers... all a little sad when every day brings a new business model that is making someone rich... there are new ways to do things... clinging to the past is not going to prep you for the future.
- David Muir
Oh, I know that. Hence, the past tense in my statement. If they had spent half as much of the money they spent suing grandma and Little Jimmy for "piracy" on legitimately trying to use the new meduim unfolding before them all those years ago, the Pirate Bay would not even be worth considering. Coulda, shoulda, woulda.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Depends on the iPod, Steven. :) Rockbox can be installed on them just the same as on your Sansa. :)
- Alex Scoble
And they're still trying to use old ways to bring about that level of control they enjoyed up until the late 90s. Reality music shows, such as American Idol, are a big part of that model, as were their attempts to use corps like Clear Channel to buy up radio stations and play the same crappy playlists in every city. It was all about control, and they could would have gotten away with it, had it not been for those meddling kids on the internet.
- Steven Perez
from IM
On the older models, Alex, yes. Strange that they've been having so many issues adapting Rockbox to the newer models.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yep, Steven...too bad for them that there's a vast army of smart techies that won't play their game. Consumers are more savvy than companies give them credit for.
- Alex Scoble
By the way, my main point is that without easy and reasonably priced access to the media, nothing the studios did would have worked.
- Alex Scoble
Jimmy Kimmel Demolishes ABC’s Upfronts - ArtsBeat Blog - NYTimes.com - http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...
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"To the ABC advertisers, Mr. Kimmel said, “Every year we lie to you and every year you come back for more. You don’t need an upfront. You need therapy. We completely lie to you, and then you pass those lies onto your clients.”"
- michael sean wright
from Bookmarklet
Line of the show: “The important thing to remember is: who cares, it’s not your money.”
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
i know that he has a dog gets a few bites clause which means he can say anything on his show... but wow this is bold.
- michael sean wright
I think he's trying to grab a bit of that Colbert style honesty magic. Remember that press dinner speech Colbert gave a few years back?
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
i'd give anything to see video of this! love the line - 90% of these shows are going to be canceled!
- michael sean wright
I hope he goes after Leno's seat.
- Mona Nomura
Leno is locked for at least a decade with that nightly show - yipes that could tank nbc. Mona maybe on to something here- Jimmy's trying to get fired so he could go to nbc, though he swiped at them as well. wonder if he wants cbs?
- michael sean wright
Nothing like biting the hand that feeds ya!
- Don Whittaker
ha - chewing it right off!
- michael sean wright
If TV was in the situation the newspapers are right now (and not off in the future, but in the same boat right now), I'd say he's gunning to go independent. It's either burnout or him trying to just push the edge.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I watched his interview on Shatner's Raw Nerve (great show, by the way), and he talked about how he routinely spends 15 hours a day on the show, so burnout is a distinct possibility.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
tv is speeding towards a hurt in general. what i want to know is if he had this planned or did an abc exec. say something to him right before the 'upfront' and set Kimmel off? do you have a link to the raw nerve show Mark?
- michael sean wright
(preview, not full ep, of Jimmy and Shatner: http://www.truveo.com/Shatner...)
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I'd say that he was probably set off, though not by something necessarily there at the upfronts, but likely something in general. He has a pretty cavalier attitude about his employers, and big passion for doing what he does. Sort of an "artist" mentality, if that makes sense.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
this goes beyond the ribbing he's known for - he went after their wallets. thanks for the shatner link btw.
- michael sean wright
no prob. If you have the biography channel, set your DVR for it. I've watched most of them front to back.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
As much as I like Conan, I have a feeling he's going to tank. And Kimmel'll be RIGHT there to try and swoop - he *might* be planting seeds, who knows.
- Mona Nomura
would think though that nbc is committed to Conan for a long time. took him a few years to catch on in late night prob. going to the case with new time as well. cbs sticking with letterman and world wide pant's late late show w/ craig ferguson. would kimmell go to a pay chan. or a comedy central? do you remember when letterman was ticked at nbc? he really went after them, night after...
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- michael sean wright
...i know kimmel is supposedly a comedian, but i'm sure a lot of TV and advertising brass didn't particularly dig this bit. I give him props for running with it. I love how the article starts: "If Jimmy Kimmel still has a job at ABC on Wednesday, he is either a very lucky or very deft comedian, or he has great blackmail photos of the network executives..." .LOLz*2
- .LAG liked that
"“This show ‘Shark Tank’ has the word tank right in the title,” he said." haha!
- ohke
Slamming your hosts worked for Stephen Colbert in 2006: http://video.google.ca/videopl... Who knows... it could work out for Jimmy Kimmel very nicely in the end.
- David Muir
holy crap, this is awesome
- Chieze Okoye
Has anyone had absolutely zero problems with any web hosting company? Or is that just not possible? Any recommendations?
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I'm hosting three dedicated servers on Liquidweb for 5 years now and it's a great experience (we've also tried other hosting providers and sucked)
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from IM
Hahahhahahha!!
- Mona Nomura
Amazon AWS EC2 has been flawless for me; I can't say the same for the other 6 companies I've hosted in the past
- Jorge Escobar
Not the answer you want to hear: fewest problems I've had is with my own server in a local data center.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
1&1 Internet have been 99.9% good. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
+1 for AWS - I haven't been using it heavily, and I've only been using it since march 2008, but it has been flawless. I also use dreamhost - good value, but they ARE cheap :)
- martin english
i've had problems of various kinds with them all except http://slicehost.com
- chad calease
What are you planning to host mate? Makes a difference to your experience. ie you probably wouldn't go down the route of using AWS if you just want to host a wordpress blog, likewise you wouldn't use 1&1 for running Twitter.
- Keith Bennett
Slicehost
- Benjamin Golub
All web hosting companies try to please, as the market has gt competitive
- TrafficBug
I couldn't recommend them more highly - Speak with Andrew at Glass Obelisk - www.go1.com.au and mention Lucy Lopez. You'll love his work.
- Lucy Lopez
I've had outstanding service for over 4 years from LiquidWeb.com, including dedicated, shared and VPS accounts. Very responsive support on the rare times I need it.
- Zack
Softlayer. End of story for me.
- Bradley McSpinn
I haven't had any problems with my current one. Downtown host [downtownhost.com] but I am planning on moving to A Small Orange [asmallorange.com] eventually. but strictly because I want some Python support. I also had very good experience with Cernax [cernax.com]
- John Wang
Thanks Benjamin, that's a Rackspace company. I don't know about problems, but what defines hosting companies is whether you can get service when you do have a problem. My phone number is +1-425-205-1921 and I, and other employees, will take care of you anytime, day or night. That's my personal cell phone, by the way, and I'm not the only employee to hand that out like that. Do the other hosting companies do that? http://www.rackspace.com
- Robert Scoble
Not possible! I definitely DO NOT recommend Advanced Internet Technologies AITCOM.NET They really suck!
- Jeff P. Henderson
I've had no issues with RIMU. They really have been a pleasure to use. Though you have to want to be a root admin -- a lot of it is "do it yourself"
- Mark Philpot
I had no problems with ServerMatrix, back before the merger. I can't speak for The Planet as it currently exists, though.
- Roger Benningfield
For basic web hosting, I've been a Cyberwurx customer for around 5 years and even used them for mission critical apps. Never a problem. The tech support is fast, and they know their stuff. Never had a conversation or request where I was challenged, forced through some step-by-step script, or that had to be escalated. I normally just get a quick email back saying the request is done.
- Salim Virani
Never get a webhoster until you do a google of "<company name> sucks". Geeks are pretty consistent in using the word/tag 'sucks' when describing bad hosting experiences. In answer to your question, I was with Datapipe for 7 years without a problem, then in two weeks I had two outages (one due to broken hardware, and the other due to a lightning strike triggering the 'explosion' alarm in the data center). But most hosters I use are more reliable than my own power company (3+ blackouts a year).
- Andrew Leyden
Andrew, I do the same thing =) Specifically, I search " *** sucks", " *** rocks", " *** + hate", and "hate ***"
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I have had 0 probs with my hosting provider http://totalchoicehosting.com/ I have the CEO on my buddy list. Tech support is avail on IM too and they're great :) My site has been down only, I think 3 times total in my last 5 years with them.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
No problems with Linode for many years except what I caused myself when I moved DNS to them and ignored warnings.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
not sure if perfection is possible -- on a *long enough* timeline, chances are you'll have a problem with any hosting provider. so support quality and response time are important. specific recommendations would depend on whether you want cheap Linux-based cPanel hosting, ASP .NET hosting, dedicated servers etc. but *anecdotally* i have had good experiences with ORCS Web for Microsoft...
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- Karim
I use simplehost and have never had a problem. My only complaint is lack of PHP5.
- Captain Bubbles
I used to be with ResellerZoom and had no problems. However im now with Mediatemple (both their grid and dedicated) because I needed a more scalable solution. They have issues but they also have the smartest engineers working on some pretty cool new stuff
- Anthony Feint
In Europe, we have 4 dedicated servers in Dedibox company, cheap and reliable. I am looking for competency (same price) everywhere in the world, desperatly...
- Isabelle Ayel
I've had good luck with hostgator
- David
While I cannot speak to hostgator's service, it seems that every other aspect of their company's business dealings is very slow. I am very unimpressed with them as a job candidate. After 3 interviews with them I decided that they didn't have it together enough to work for. I would certainly not hire them. On the other hand my experience with Amazon's ec2 service (while limited) has been excellent. Mosso may be another option.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I have to say I like hostgator too -- with very quick customer service on both technical and billing questions/issues.
- David Muir
I want to talk about Ted Nelson http://www.scripting.com/stories... and how he connects to re-booting the news. I really do not want to give much time to the Pontin troll pasages, and I am wary of getting Dave drawn into it, as well. I would rather talk about Dave's Twitter experiments and other things.
You're right; the positive approach works best. Those inspirational folks each of you choose offer a great launching point for general discussion, and tying their work back to Rebooting the News works well too. I was hoping to hear your thoughts on the industry "tweaks" that Pontin suggested (as opposed to the personal trolling)... but I completely agree with your choice not to focus on it.
- David Muir
Also, two good posts this week about moderating comments on newspaper sites?
- Bora Zivkovic
There is something odd about seeing a Prius driver smoking a cigarette and letting the ash fall out the window. Isn't there?
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From Palo Alto this morning. So... is the environmental impact a net positive or negative?
- Louis Gray
At least it's better than seeing a Prius driver smoking a cigarette, letting the ash fall out the window, and driving a Hummer
- Jesse Stay
Isn't that a contradiction -
- NXT Nutritionals. inc.
The ash doesn't bug me. It's when they start throwing the cig butts to the street, that bugs the hell out of me. It's not only littering, it's also very rude.
- Rudy Amid
It's funny to me that the car you drive is somehow a moral statement.
- Cristo
Chris, not necessarily moral, but one would think a Prius driver to be environmentally-conscious. Flicking the butt out the window would be really incongruous (and would piss me off regardless of the car).
- LogEx
maybe it is a rental
- Jeff
Not sure I could find the reference, but my brother-in-law claims that from start- to end-of-life the environmental impact of a Prius is more significant than a Hummer. I think it is because of the batteries.
- David Muir
LE, I'm environmentally conscious, I don't smoke cigarettes, and I own a porsche which I rarely drive. We are looking to buy a Prius soon, but I'm a little gunshy because of the smugness of it.
- Cristo
You can smell the smug dripping off that.
- Alex Scrivener
I see your point there Chris.
- LogEx
@David, I've heard the same before about the materials that go into the battery too. I was never sure if it was fact or fiction.
- Jim Espinoza
poser
- clarke thomas
BTW, I have the same attitude towards people that say you're somehow not patriotic for buying a car from a non-American car company. These are just possessions people, they are not part of you. And part of being American is being free to make decisions based on your individual situation. Stop hating so much.
- Cristo
Ewwww.
- Sunshine
Chris, if there was a way to like comments, that comment would get one right now!
- Holger Eilhard
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
- Mike Reynolds
Chris - Just watch out for the smug from George Clooney's acceptance speech (South Park reference)
- Mike Reynolds
agree with Jeff, the Town Car was unavailable at the rental office
- Rick Bucich
Prius drivers do suck. One of my closest near-misses on the bike was with a Prius driver. I mean, it's not like pickup truck drivers, but....
- Wirehead
s'ok if they're smoking rollies - sorry some of us are so stiff - live and let live used to matter - now we're all muscling people if their choices are different from ours - so you don't smoke - how many soda bottles do you stack up a week?
- chad calease
from Nambu
I'm actively trying to use other URL shorteners now that bit.ly is in bed with Twitter (their servers are even in the same racks). That's too much control to give one company, especially one that is defacto owning my namespace. Am I too paranoid?
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Smoke less potent pot Robert. ;)
- Rolf Schewe
Rolf: I wish I was stoned. It might make me less paranoid. What happens when we give our lives over to Bit.ly and it changes all of our links from Facebook to Twitter's search?
- Robert Scoble
dunno if you're paranoid, but you raise a good point. I could see bit.ly getting a lot bigger than just an url shortner.
- phil baumann
People would revolt, that's what would happen
- Jan Ole Peek
Eggs. Basket. All-in-one. I agree with your sentiment, Robert... I just switched from Tweetdeck to Twhirl so I hope to distance myself from bit.ly a little.
- David Muir
Robert: I hear you. Competition is a big issue for me. The paranoid point was a freebee. Had to take it.
- Rolf Schewe
Jan: that might keep them from doing it, but what if they put an interstitial advertisement? Or did something else, like block Google's spiders?
- Robert Scoble
Maybe we'll end up with meta-shorteners to keep track of the links stored by all the shortening services. This would avoid the problem of "what if it goes offline", but doesn't solve the "Twitter/Bit.ly can see all my information" issue. But that part mostly comes with it being a publicly visible service.
- Ho John Lee
These people are in business and aren't here to make friends with us. They've already proven that to me.
- Robert Scoble
That's why I use random url shorteners, whichever one I can remember at the time ;) But let us know if you find a best alternative, I think there's so many it's hard to choose for the average user.
- Jan Ole Peek
Look at the problems that Jesse Stay is having with Twitter. They change things on a whim without communicating them. They don't care about what people think of their moves. And we want to bet our entire linking system on this company?
- Robert Scoble
@Robert So how big could a twitter-bit.ly entity become?
- phil baumann
you should be able to set your default shortnener in your twitter profile
- Allen Stern
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there aren't people after you.
- Harry Wolff
Allen: that would be very nice and a good engineering solution. I just don't see Twitter as being good at either of those attributes. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
@Allen Agree, but what would stop twitter from giving you only 1 option? would enough people exit to make it too costly?
- phil baumann
Robert: I personally like the tr.im name the best. Bit.ly's has the best features. Both are better than TinyURL. At least the move off of TinyURL by Twiiter was one in the right direction.
- Rolf Schewe
My Twitter client supports 9 URL shorteners and I usually use urlborg.
- Morton Fox
Allen: also, we all know the power of being the default. Most people won't switch it. Heck, look into how the suggested follower list is working. Most people use it and nothing else.
- Robert Scoble
And it's not just Jesse having problems with Twitter. Several companies, and everyone with email filters got hosed by the recent changes on the New Follower Emails from twitter. No, Robert, you're not being paranoid, you're being smart. While I'm not sure that the "too much control to give one company" argument holds with the likes of Google and Microsoft around, it sure doesn't seem...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Has Twitter stopped artificially shortening URLs that fit within the 140 yet? Someone needs to come up with a syndicated shortener you can run on your own domain.
- LogEx
yes. unless you end up proven right, then no.
- Tac Anderson
Logical Extremes: There are at least 2 that I know of.
- coldbrew
I personally think URLs should not count towards the character count of Twitter or other services. They should be embedded someway in their message/posting. URL shorteners have always seemed like unnecessary middlemen.
- Rolf Schewe
I think Twitter *should* own it's own URL shortener. That way we know that, as long as Twitter exists, all our short URLs will too.
- Pat Hawks
I use icanhaz.com whenever I post a link, just because it's really silly.
- Alan Chamberlain
While that may be nice Rolf, the only message in Twitter is the tweet. There is no metadata, and therefore there is not "character that doesn't count"
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
guruvan: Thus an inherent flaw.
- Rolf Schewe
LE: In my experience they have stopped the autoshortening of some. It seems that they will still autoshorten in some cases, but I haven't determined exactly which. I have seen tweets that were mostly URL.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, I tried to do some testing too, but the results were inconsistent. I wonder if they are sensitive to certain domains, among other things. But it's annoying... if it fits, don't mess with it. I want to manage my message length myself, avoid shorteners whenever possible, and choose my own when needed.
- LogEx
Metadata is huge. Imagine each post having a URL embedded. Then the service like FriendFeed or Twitter resolving the link and pulling metadata. Then they could rebuild a nice comprehensive link title under the post with context such as Title, Author, Location, tags, etc.
- Rolf Schewe
yes seems there are enough monopolies already, really don't need one more ... but certainly it is an interesting idea to wrap the mind around to see how a community run system like Twitter could be improved to be truly community based. I also understand that twitter is in business whereby the objective of any business is eventual profit.
- Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
Use a Twitter client that gives you a choice of URL shorteners -simple. Why the fuss? IMHO bit.ly has been the most reliable and simple system to use so far, so I'm happy enough. Some people are only happy when they have something to complain about, of course... ;-)
- Bob Walder
from BuddyFeed
LE: Yep, that's my experience as well. Didn't seem to have much rhyme or reason to it. and Rolf: In one way it's an inherent flaw, but the service was designed specifically to be completely compatible with SMS...SMS inherently passes no (user usable) metadata. But that's not inherently flawed is it?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
You're too paranoid.
- Chieze Okoye
Maybe. I've come to love bit.ly. Good alternatives?
- Hutch Carpenter
Tr.im seems to be a good alternative, but b/c I don't use Twitter, I have no use.
- coldbrew
robert/phil - what i am suggesting is that by default it uses bitly (since they are in bed together) - but you can go into your profile and set it to whatever shortener you like - say they have a list of 20 or something...
- Allen Stern
Coldbrew: The one use is to be able to track CTR on the links you post. Unless you're posting links to sites you already get stats from, this can be valuable in measuring personal reach.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Hutch: adjix is a good alternative. Doesn't experience the outages like the one seen with tr.im over the past day.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
It seems silly to be concerned about bedding with a url shortener on a service that is almost entirely likely to be dominated by 3rd party applications to be effective.
- Patrick Boegel
To quote Robert himself when he is responding to others outrageous claims, "what are you talking about!?" But seriously if you search using Google and you're signed in isn't that surrendering far more personal information about you? And why wouldn't you want your shared links to be evergreen? I think bit.ly should cache results too.
- Gregg Scott
I use BurnURL because the data that comes from the sharebar, including Mood Mining, will be fed back into ReadBurner, who I advise for. I advise them because I loved the ReadBurner service and when they relaunch it should be very cool.
- Louis Gray
I gave up on all shorteners like 6 months ago, cause well - I didn't like any of them!! And have faithfully used tweetburner/twurl bookmarklet - it is a secret favorite, but don't tell a bunch of people because I don't want their servers to get slow on me!!!
- T.S. Elliott
cli.gs! They power the WP to Twitter plugin I've started to use (bye bye Twitter Tools).
- Shawn Farner
You're not being too paranoid. I recently noticed that Ars Technica has deployed their own shortener at http://arst.ch.
- Michael R. Bernstein
try http://shortn.me we haven't automated it yet, but it offers the ability to have multiple links to intelligently redirect to mobile web for users who hit links from their phones. We have the flickr automation ready to launch as a demo.
- Tom
Huh? what's wrong with being in bed with Twitter? I love bitly, use it constantly as it gives me feedback on how many clicked and keeps a record for me and doesn't get in my way, stays on the side.
- Prokofy Neva
I think it makes sense to like variety of providers in a landscape, to be wary of too much control by one company etc. But why are people so freaked at twitter+bit.ly but arent freaked over google's, apple's or amazon's own vertical control? Twitter seems small potatoes in comparison
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I really like cli.gs
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I use the is.gd shortener in twhirl. I dont care which one they use. I started getting ff in email, it is good I use gmail..
- David Gross
from email
tweetdeck gives users a choice, if you think it important I will stop using the default (bit.ly)
- jcunwired
I've been using tr.im and been happy with it. Other suggestions?
- Ted Bradford II
How about www.notlong.com ?
- Martin Lindeskog
Or make your own. It's a relatively easy script... :)
- Joe Manna
sco.bl?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I usually use http://twitclicks.com I can track clicked links geographically, by browser, if the clicks came from Twitter or some other source, plus it tells me the username(s) of the Twitterers who clicked on the links.
- Sharon McPherson
resources - Kol's room http://friendfeed.com/url-sho... , list of shorteners http://kl.am/short , http://friendfeed.com/social-... , I personally look for shorteners that allow for custom/edit addresses ///////// and FF, it'd be fine to have an option of ff.im/user , and also, if i type <term> , a box with search of where that term was discussed/posted about last, as an option :]
- Petr Buben
I like ow.ly for posts I don't care get indexed by Google, but here's a breakdown of options. http://foomandoonian.blogspot.com/2008...
- Janet Fouts
Not paranoid. Now ME, I'm caesium standard Paranoid!!!
- pazzer1
U.S., Europe Are an Ocean Apart on Human Toll of Joblessness - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...
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"In Germany, losing his factory job didn't stop Alfred Butt from taking a Mediterranean vacation this winter. Thanks to generous jobless benefits, being out of work "hasn't changed my life that much," Mr. Butt says. In the U.S., Dylan DeRoberts lost similar work -- but there's no seaside getaway for him. Instead, he's giving up life's little pleasures, like riding his snowmobile, because he lost his insurance, too. "I've learned to live at a new level," Mr. DeRoberts says. Unemployment is taking a very different human toll on opposite sides of the Atlantic, which helps explain why Europe and the U.S. can't agree on how to attack the global recession. The U.S. is spending hundreds of billions of dollars -- including increased assistance to the unemployed -- to prop up the economy, and wants Europe to follow suit. But most of Western Europe already has a strong, if costly, social safety net, so governments feel less pressure to spend their way out of trouble."
- Eric P
from Bookmarklet
I was talking to a guy in the UK who had a company car and a far higher per diem than we did... working for the same global company. I was always thinking they were being overly generous. Then I read something like this and wonder if the costs don't even out over the long run.
- David Muir
Can't get into shows like Lost, 24, and Prison Break. How long does it take to break out of jail, escape an island, or live for a day?
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Same here, bore me to tears
- Mo Kargas
Yeah, keep me with the reality shows. ;)
- Shevonne
I only watch LOST. I hate reality shows.
- Cristo
Then don't watch them? *shrug*
- Derrick
Lost is more than just escaping from an Island. Believe me if you are anything of a Sci-Fi fan you should at least give Lost a try.
- Rahul Das
THIS.
- mjc
I watched Prison Break until they, like, broke out of jail (end of S1). Then I was like, what's the point, and stopped.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
The only show I've gotten into on network tv is 24
- jcunwired
lol, good point
- sean percival
It took Gilligan and friends years to escape their island. ;)
- Cristo
And... Lost in Space?
- LogEx
it's a pretty busy day.
- Richard Lawler
...yes, but Prison Break is so ridiculously idiotic and completely implausible that it's a guilty pleasure to watch. also, not only did they break OUT of jail on this show, they broke INTO another one. It's completely absurd. I love it!
- .LAG liked that
I dropped Lost after the hatch. 24 is just plain stupid. Bad Guy! Torture! Bad Guy! Torture! Rinse, repeat, yawn.
- Kevin D. White
Kevin, too bad. Now they are building the hatch.
- Cristo
I just find it interesting that these shows all seem to share a common trait and they are all so widely popular.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
The only common trait is that they are weekly and they have continuing plotlines. I've watched both Prison Break and 24 before, and I don't find them worth the time. There's not really anything intellectually stimulating about them.
- Cristo
Lost isn't intellectually stimulating either.
- Richard Lawler
Richard, it is to me, but then I'm probably not as smart as you.
- Cristo
They seem to all take a single event and stretch it out. Lost maybe not so much.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
that could explain it Chris, I don't think it does, but it could
- Richard Lawler
AMEN Rah. But at least with 24, the main conflict is resolved at the end of the season. I stopped watching Prison Break after season 1, just couldn't deal with it
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
It took 3 (4?) seasons, a little over 100 days. But now they're back on the island.
- xero
TV? Sorry, you folks are far more interesting [although I do need to see Ninja Warrior (Sasuke) 20].
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I didn't watch 24 until after the 5th season, when a friend loaned me the DVDs (I seldom watch TV). Watching season 1 on DVD back to back hooked me. Fortunately this season is back on track with totally entertaining ridiculousness, where last season was just ridiculous.
- jcunwired
I know where everyone's coming from... but please folks... remember that these implausible dramas are there when REALITY shows could be filling all their timeslots. From that perspective I thank all that is holy for these shows -- and all scripted television drama.
- David Muir
Speak for yourself, Reality shows Rawk.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
...you want 'intellectually stimulating'? you're looking for it in the wrong place if you're looking for it in prime time TV. in the quest for the biggest audiences, they have to play to the lowest common denominator.
- .LAG liked that
When I want my intellect stimulated, I watch D-HC or HIST or some other such channel full of documentaries and crap...LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
+1 Rahsheen
- .LAG liked that
...the only reality TV show, I watch, still, is Survivor: there's still something about stranding people in the boondocks and telling them the last one standing wins $1 million that brings out the most devilish instincts in people... it's almost like being at the office. .LOLz
- .LAG liked that
Same here. Prison Break is Fail
- Drew Lucas
Muppet Babies. You get lost in their imagination. The whole story is over and done with in an episode.
- Rodfather
Lost is a hell of a lot more interesting than this thread, for example. Just watched the first episode again online and it's still good.
- Cristo
Not me. I find reality TV makes me suicidal. Who are these losers that want to be famous for 15 minutes so badly? It's just an invention by TV executives who don't want to pay to produce content in the summer.
- Cristo
Watching a reality show is like watching your standard prime-time TV Show without all the pretense of it being something other then simple entertainment. TV is the idiot box. There are some channels that fall outside of the "idiot" status, but most are simply for entertainment. Regardless of whether it's a scripted drama or a raunchy reality show, it's still melting your brain.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
FriendFeed is melting my brain right now. It's like reality chat. Lost is better than most movies. Sorry.
- Cristo
Hey, shut your piehole! Michael Scofield is my future husband!! /end delusion.
- Mona Nomura
I've never seen any of these shows, so I couldn't say how good or bad they are. The last TV shows I followed rabidly were Star Trek TNG and Twin Peaks, so I'm waaaay out of this game. Lost would be the one I'd try, if I tried one at all.
- jojo, adventurer
sub, you can watch it online at: http://abc.go.com/primeti... Just go to watch free episodes.
- Cristo
Hey, thanks, Chris! I'll give it a shot, at least!
- jojo, adventurer
dont watch lost or prison break...but love 24!
- (jeff)isageek
My mom can't stop watching 24, even though she's always talking about how bad and over the top the acting is
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
24 is good. They do jump the shark many times, but I believed the show changed TV in a good way for a short time.
- Amani
@Mona... that's a great line: 'Michael Scofield is my future husband.' so i take it, another "Prison Break" fan? ftw! .LOLz
- .LAG liked that
I don't have a problem with celebrities joining Friendfeed as long as they intend on contributing to the conversations. Just simply piping in your bubbleheaded Twitter updates and expecting anything back is not what FF is about.
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Nail/head.
- Iain Baker
For examples of a celebrity who understands this, please see Felicia Day: http://friendfeed.com/felicia
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
friendfeed: the antisocial social networking group. ha ha
- Cee Bee
I don't really think FF has an "about". It's what you make it.
- Shawn Farner
@Shawn But you cannot deny that FF is about conversation. It's built entirely around this. Importing your services is only part of it, its the connection that other people have with what you import that makes this site. I "love" a song on Last.FM and it starts a conversation about how much others love that song, or a YouTube video, or anything.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
That's if you choose to take part in the conversation side of it. I'm just not going to tell people how to use it, that's all. The conversation side of it is neat but I'm sure some people just use it the way it was originally billed - to keep tabs on what friends are up to online.
- Shawn Farner
Fair enough, I certainly see your point. I use Twitter and Facebook for those kinds of things. When I want to discuss, I come to FriendFeed. I just would hate to see it suddenly get overrun with people like the chick above who are just promoting themselves and could care less about talking with the people that follow them.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
In one way it is good to see FF become a commodity platform. In all other ways it is bad.
- David Muir
It's the same as Twitter. When a celebrity joins something like Twitter or FriendFeed, tons of people will follow them hoping for some type of interaction. For many of us, when that person doesn't interact - we stop following them. Then...they're not an issue anymore because they're no longer on your feed. As far as Kim Kardashian goes, that account on FF has been blocked already because it's 90% obvious it's someone who works for/with her who created the account.
- Candace
Exactly, Candace. Twitter wasn't a big of a shock to me, since it's the equivalent of standing on the crowded street corner with a megaphone. FF is a different animal since it's so easy to jump in and take place in the conversation.. it's not so 1-sided in that you get to see everyone's replies. It's plainly obvious when a FF user is a bot or a ghost-writer. Everyone ignores and blocks. I'm not saying FF will go downhill because of this, but it's not going to help anything either. :(
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
As the service gets larger, and more out there - this will happen. Like Twitter/Facebook and any other social network...it will happen. It's up to you to decide who you interact with. ...Hang on a second Sean, my Twitter updated...OH HUGH JACKMAN WHY WON'T YOU REPLY TO ME?! ...What?
- Candace
Hahaha.. I understand.. I keep @ replying to Lily Allen and she won't reply back. WHY DO YOU FORSAKE ME LILY?!?
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I don't actually follow Hugh Jackman on Twitter...he's one of the 592853490 "famous people on Twitter" who pays someone to do it for them.
- Candace
Ahhh... I don't follow him either.. I do follow several celebrities but I look carefully to see if it's actually them. Lily is one that's actually her, among a few others like Alyssa Milano and Felicia Day
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
interesting that she's only a member of a single group: http://friendfeed.com/hotts :)
- Nathan Chase
I've been cutting down my celebrities that I follow on twitter and have a mind to drop a few from friendfeed as well. It would be different if some of these people put up valuable content on the two services, but I'm not interested in reading about a celeb's sammich preferences. :P
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
Nathan, she has a private feed :)
- Alp
I've not received the invitation Sean. :)
- Alp
My attitude about celebrities is that they can and should join and we can and will block or hide their posts if we aren't interested.
- Brian Sullivan
@Alp Nathan will have to invite, I don't have permission -- he's the mod.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Haggis: that is pretty unfair. She just joined FF. Do you expect other new joiners to understand the norms here by day 2?
- Christian Anderson
It might be unfair, but it makes it no less untrue. I supposed I'm slightly biased against her, but I was really using her as an example. For one thing it's highly likely that she uses a publicist for her postings in the first place. That's also a huge no-no in this place.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I must be looking in the wrong place. http://friendfeed.com/rules is returning a "not found" for me...
- Glen Mistletoe
is using a publicist really a huge nono - because many companies have twitter accounts manned by a marketeer, and quite a few people I know on twitter hope to make a living as "social media experts" doing exactly that kind of thing but for companies. Why is it OK for a company around a product but not for a company around a celebrity (make no mistake, these are all business endeavours, that's why they have agents, PAs etc.)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Simple...companies usually don't tell us "OMG! I need a Starbucks!"
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
What Tutivillus said. :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
People can use Friendfeed however they want. We will decide if they are worth following and/or interacting with. Using these standards, I would have been "kicked out" from Twitter months ago.
- Alejandro
Who is Kim Kardashian? This is a real question, I've never heard of her.
- Kate
Glen, I found the instructions / rules: i couldn't find the rules either. Haggis, if their "bubbleheaded" are sure sure they're done by a publicist? Joelle makes a good point there too. The number one joining behavior for new people joining FF is to pipe in their other feeds.
- Christian Anderson
i found the ff rules on the logged out home page: "It's simple It takes just a couple clicks to post anything or to start a discussion. It’s conversational Your friends comment on the things you share, and you see their comments in real-time. So talk with your friends, not at them. It’s open Read and share however you want — from your email, your phone or even from Facebook. Publish your FriendFeed to your website or blog, or to services you already use, like Twitter."
- Christian Anderson
@Alejandro - Exactly. We choose who we interact with. @Kate - I think she's a model?
- Candace
Haggis: your having a problem with celebs on FF is fine. That is your right. Suggesting that a user is doing it wrong and then advocating a closed system is what i'm challenging.
- Christian Anderson
I'm certainly not advocating a closed system! I just don't want a celebrity invasion of nothing but posts and no replies. It's not the FF I want.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I would be concerned if they got "special" attention from FF staff but other than that the more the merrier. Even "ghost" celebrities might have something to contribute.
- Brian Sullivan
Several blogs do the same
- Alejandro
u.nu :: the shortest urls. period. - http://u.nu
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Damn that is short. Awesome!
- Azzam
what? no bookmarklet?
- Herb Hernandez
Now, it have bookmarklet. I did it quickly: http://u.nu/59
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Thanks for the bookmarklet. Is there a way to use a short URL and a bookmarklet that will allow you to add text and the short url and then send to twitter. Picomarks.com does this for bookmarking, it creates a custom bookmarklet for you that has your login credentials included. You just click the picomarks bookmarklet and it bookmarks without having to do anything else. tr.im does it with the sidebar but I want a totally lazy way lol
- Azzam
Thanks for the quickfire solution Leandro Ardissone! =)
- Jonathan Kong
Wow, that was quick Leandro! Before I could finish reading all the feeds on my home page you had created the bookmarklet. Thank you.
- Sharon McPherson
You're welcome guys :)
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
@Azzam: tr.im let you publish to twitter and identi.ca directly after click on the bookmarklet.
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Add: n.nu is one letter shy of another url shortener tweak.
- Jonathan Kong
that is short!
- felix
There are also r.im and a.gd
- LouCypher
Haha (from the faq page): "u.nu’s ground-breaking 3-letter domain technology is 25% shorter than its closest imitators, which have 4-letter domains, and it’s fully 70% shorter than arch-rival tinyurl.com’s rambling Dostoyevskian screed of a domain name. Unlike all those other sites, which make no such assurances, we offer a 100% guarantee that our domain name will never get longer. Add those percentages up and you get 195%, which is quite a lot."
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
you just can't argue with that math... it's *math*. :)
- felix
+1 for palindromic url
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
Cool and everything but it doesn't seem to work. The two URLs I shortened link to completely unrelated sites.
- David Muir
u.rl domain would be nice too! They should just create that tld if it doesn't exist.
- Meryn Stol
.rl doesn't exist but someone could do http://ur.ls (Lesotho's TLD)
- Ethan
Very nice. I hope developers utilize the API.
- © b e e n s w a n k
@Brandon: I already did yesterday http://u.nu/39i
- LouCypher
I love it. Here is a bookmarklet by me. find the green small icon in the article. http://www.hmert.com/2009... (in Turkish) also shared in FF-TR http://ff.im/2l3bP
- Hüseyin Mert
It's now available on Shorten URL extension http://u.nu/65
- LouCypher
Cool!
- Nicholas James
What musicians or bands most influenced your musical tastes? In other words, what bands or musicians would make your life suck if they didn't exist?
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Michael Jackson.
- Mona Nomura
My life would genuinely suck without Incognito (http://incognito.org.uk/)!
- Rene Wirtz
Chocolate.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
For me it's: Kraftwerk, Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, Front 242, Sex Pistols (and various other punk era bands like Talking Heads), 311, New Order/Joy Division and Depeche Mode.
- Alex Scoble
John Cale, Robert Wyatt, Blaine L Reininger, Holger Czukay
- Majento
The Beatles (because they're the best group in the history of music) and Phil Keaggy (because he's the best guitar player that ever lived).
- Jim Hearts FF
The Clash, The Rolling Stones, Floyd
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Early life: New Order, Rush, and Led Zeppelin. Lately: Sum 41, Billy Talent, The Offspring, Yellowcard, and many others of that ilk.
- David Muir
John Coltrane, Chick Corea, Joe Pass. Eddie Van Halen, SRV, Andre Segovia, Steve Morse, Jaco Pastorius, Oscar Peterson, Charlie Parker, Joe Henderson, Wes Montgomery, Betty Carter, Michael Brecker, The Beatle, BTO, Miles Davis, Pat Metheny, Duke Ellington, Prince, Albert King, Albert Collins, Larry Carlton, Count Basie, Billie Holiday, Jackson 5, Aerosmith, Stevie Wonder, Earth Wind & Fire, Led Zeppelin, Rush, Randy Rhoads, John Scofield, Gorge Duke, George Benson
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Rush, Van Halen, King's X, Duran Duran, Journey, Def Leppard, The Mormon Tabernacle Choir, Tears for Fears, John Patitucci, Pat Metheny Group, New Order, Depeche Mode, Scritti Politti, Michael Jackson, Earth Wind and Fire, Pink Floyd, Chick Corea, Al Di Meola, Miles Davis, John Coltrane.
- Josh Haley
None. I have no doubt in the absence of the performers I already like I'd just find other. There's no one I'm that attached to.
- Soup
The Skatellites, Duran Duran, Billie Holiday, A Tribe Called Quest (actually, I'd rather say Prince Paul) , Tito Puente, Miles Davis, Price Buster (grrr, I admit it!), Mudhoney, Aretha Franklin, Desmond Dekker, Joy Division, Chick Korea, The Supremes. I recognize these bands/people as highly influential. They inspired so many other awesome bands/musicians.
- Captain Bubbles
The Cure, The Smiths, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Primus, Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Public Enemy, NWA, The Beatles, Jamiroquai ...edit: and 7 Seconds
- Bren, Not Grinchy
Fats Domino, The Platters, The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, Leonard Cohen, Judy Bright, Janis Joplin, Nana Mouskouri, Demis Roussous, Dire Straits, Talking Heads and many Yugoslav bands....
- Bora Zivkovic
The Beatles, The Rollling Stones, Allman Brothers, Phil Nimmons, Boss Brass, Ellington, Coltrane, Oscar Peterson, Ed Bickert, Jay McShann
- Brian Sullivan
The 60's folk music my parents listened to when I was a kid (though I didn't realize it at the time), Pixies, Cure, Sugarcubes, Pulp, Lone Justice/Maria McKee, X (the Los Angeles one, not X Japan), Miles Davis, Sundays
- Jeremy Brooks
Jimi Hendrix, Jerry Garcia, Sid Barrett, Miles Davis, David Grisman, Bill Monroe, Bob Marley, Toots, to name a few
- Bill Scherer
Oh I forgot Guru. His Jazzmatazz series introduced just about all of the 'neo-soul' artists and nerd-hop rappers that we know today.
- Captain Bubbles
Led Zeppelin, Michael Jackson and Motown, BeeGees, Beatles...my musical tastes are varied. I thoroughly enjoy Girl Talk, if that says anything about me.
- Mike Nayyar
Falconer. They showed me what music could be.
- i80and
New Wave and New Romantics stuff of the early 80s. Love techno now, and think that listening to bands like Ultravox and Visage contributed. Also like Gary Numan -- but the more obscure stuff, i.e. *not* "Cars." Can also recall the first time I listened to "Lone Rhinoceros" by Adrian Belew. Wow. My tastes today are pretty varied.
- Sue Radd
Ted Nugent, Alanis Morrisette, Debbie Gibson, Quiet Riot and Antonio Vivaldi. I know strange; but honest.
- Larry
Metallica, Rush, Black Sabbath, Satyricon, Emperor, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Jimi Hendrix, Bill Monroe, Bobby Bland, Earnest Tubb, Dissection, Slayer, Pink Floyd
- metalerik
just about every pop/R&B/hip-hop artist who was hot from the late 1950s through about 1989. a lot of that is my parents fault. dad had a ridiculous funk-R&B vinyl collection. i think he still does. i can't name them all and i have revised them with age. stuff i didn't like as a kid (ex: p-funk and Nina Simone) is stuff i jam to regularly.*BUT* if i had to narrow that down, i'd say parliament/funkadelic, michael jackson, gap band, cameo's later stuff, and quincy jones, jamiroquai, ATCQ, grandmaster flash...
- tiffany
... sugar hill gang, public enemy, paul simon (er, *just* his graceland concert/album), dave brubeck and tito puente. EDIT how could i forget james brown and earth, wind & fire? EWF = the sh*t.
- tiffany
The Beatles.
- Laura Lou Who
Al Jourgensen.
- Mark H
Prince, Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, Miles Davis, Duran Duran, Funkadelic/Parliament, Isaac Hayes, Jimi Hendrix, Ice Cube's first solo album, Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, Morrissey/The Smiths, Digital Underground, Eric B. & Rakim, The Beasties, Kurtis Blow, LL, Jackson 5, Nirvana, Bob Marley and the Wailers...I dunno; I'm all over the place.
- Derrick
Willie Nelson and Robert earl Keene Jr.
- Cody Heitschmidt
The Who, BB King, Eric Clapton, Black Sabbath, Astor Piazzolla
- John Dupuis
Beastie Boys, Pink Floyd, John Coltrane, Santana, Metallica, Smashing Pumpkins, Led Zeppelin, Beethoven, U2, Norah Jones, Queen
- Rodfather
The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Steely Dan. There are other bands I would miss if they didn't exist -- too many to list, really -- but those three are essential to me.
- Kevin Shaum
Top 5: Bach, Beatles, Dire Straits, Cranberries, and Miss Peggy Lee. There are others, but these would be most missed.
- Michael W. May
The Beatles and Kraftwerk, of course :D
- Baard @ Pixum
Jacques Brel
- Pierre Lindenbaum
The Beatles, Judy Garland, J.S. Bach, The Cardigans, Rilo Kiley.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Bach, Beethoven, Zappa, Peter Hammill, SRV, Gentle Giant
- Kevin Johnson
the pixies. blondie. steeleye span. led zeppelin. the damned. jesus and mary chain. the ink spots. hank williams.
- edythe
Charlie Parker, Dizzy, Ellington, Miles Davis, Coltrane, Ella, Billie, Jacques Brel, Brassens, Leo Ferré, Aznavour, Barbara...
- directeur
Chaka Khan.
- Ms_Krista
Ms_Krista, you're watching "arte", aren't you? [saw her 5 minutes ago on arte, the franco-german TV channel]
- directeur
Chopin, Saint-Saen, Robert Johnson, John Coltrane, Jimi Hendrix, Front 242, Human Drama, Johnny Cash, Throwing Muses, Pink Floyd (Roger Waters era), Blue October, Mark Lanegan, Nirvana, Ella Fitzgerald, and a lot more
- William Harryman
Boney M, Phil Collins (ok, maybe just "In the Air Tonight" - truly the Stairway to Heaven of the Miami Vice Generation), Slayer (still the greatest HARD rock band of all time), Eazy-E, Skatallites, Alton Ellis, Wu-Tang Clan, M.I.A.
- Adrian
Outkast
- fijidaddy
I totally forgot about Wu-Tang and Outkast
- Rodfather
Zepplin, Kiss, BT, Pink Floyd, Tiesto, Motley Crue (yep), Guns n roses, Tool, Most classical, A whole lotta Jazz, Industrial, Skinny Puppy, Sixx AM (now), The Smiths, The Cult, Depeche Mode, Prince, The Cure, Duran Duran, Faithless, Fluke, Marvin Gaye, and the many many others
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Most recently, I can't listen enough to Amos Lee & Eric Hutchinson
- Dennis O'Neil
Depeche Mode, Laurie Anderson, Kansas, The Cure, REM, U2
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
crap, how did I forget The Cure and U2, not to mention Black Flag
- William Harryman
Take out all the one-word musicians and you have a highly diverse and high quality musical landscape.
- Alex Scoble
Brit pop bands such as Oasis, old school rap by Run DMC and Beastie Boys, grunge acts such as Stone Temple Pilots and Soundgarden, and ambient music made by groups like Boards of Canada
- Dave "Freedom 35"
The Beatles, BDP, Madonna, Pedro Infante, Police, ATCQ, Beastie Boys, Brooklyn Funk Essentials, Julio Jaramillo, Rage Against the Machine, Jill Scott, Ozomatli, Eric B. & Rakim, The Supremes, Bette Midler, Barbara Streisand, Flans, Selena, Journey, Sade ... I'm gonna keep thinking about this and no doubt I'll wish I'd included others but this is what's coming to mind now.
- ♥patricia♥
smashing pumpkins, tool, radiohead, bjork, lamb of god, kittie, perfect circle, billie holiday, catpower, azure ray (most i dont listen to daily anymore but they did influence my taste for sure)
- Briana Franco
+1 for Edythe for the JAMC, they were the one band who influenced what I did on stage. Apart from them - My other influences: Moe Berg, Dan Treacy, Wim Mertens.
- Iain Baker
I grew up in the 90s, so there were TONS of cool acts to listen to.
- Dave "Freedom 35"
Johnny Cash, Jimmie Hendrix, Elmore James, Billie Holiday, James Brown, Willie Nelson, Patsy Cline, Armstrong and last but not least Simon and Garfunkel.
- Kim Landwehr
Motley Crue (of old), Pantera, Dream Theater, In Flames, Opeth, Tori Amos, Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Vivaldi
- Christopher Galtenberg
Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, The Smiths, Feeder, Stereophonics, Nirvana, INXS (with Michael Hutchence), Blur, Oasis, Paul Weller, Miles Davis, Frank Sinatra and David Bowie
- Emma
Madonna (cher, phil collins, 80's .. ) couldn't live without that great musical/ romantic music .. decade!
- David Lynch
Carlos Santana, Rob Thomas, Don Henley - very talented writers as well as musicians.
- Janet
My life would certainly be very different if Glen Campbell didn't exist.
- Glen Mistletoe
Haha Glen.
- Rodfather
Mozart, the Beatles
- Kate Foy
Iraimbilanja (a band from Madagascar), Boston, Led Zep, Van Halen, Nicolo Paganini, Joe Satriani, Téléphone, Louis Bertignac
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Bumblefoot, The Smashing Pumpkins, Prince and Michel Polnareff.
- Brome
The Fiery Furnaces / Matthew Friedberger, Beck, Radiohead, Super Furry Animals, Pulp, Of Montereal, The Beatles.
- Martin Bryant
Louis Armstrong, The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Velvet Underground, Hendrix, Van Morrison, Bob Dylan, Patsy Cline, Pink Floyd, Tom Waits, The Smiths, Uncle Tupelo, Nirvana, Weezer, Outkast, Tribe Called Quest, Pavement, Yo La Tengo, My Bloody Valentine, Neutral Milk Hotel, The Magnetic Fields, Belle & Sebastian, Radiohead, The Streets...lately The Walkmen, White Stripes, Strokes, Ratatat, Iron & Wine...and dozens of other acts *deep breath*
- Jeffrey Marsh
A lot of these bands are here because at the point in time when I was listening to them, my life would've sucked without them: Simon and Garfunkel, Indigo Girls, Sarah McLachlan, Madonna, Beatles, Green Day, Nerissa and Katrina Nields, Common Rotation, The Submarines.
- Lis Miller
I have pretty eclectic taste in general but I don't think I could do without The Smiths, Morrissey's solo stuff, The Cure, Suede, Siouxsie, Cocteau Twins, David Bowie, Miles Davis, Stan Getz, Stevie Wonder and Ozzy.
- adf
Miles Davis, Soft Machine, Joy Division, Tangerine Dream, Pink Floyd, Radio Massacre International
- andrei_c
To name a few: | **Newish**: Pearl Jam, Nirvana, The Offspring, Dave Matthews, Metallica, Green Day, Creed, Staind, Linkin Park, NIN, Korn, The Smashing Pumpkins, Tool, White Zombie, Sublime, 311, Cypress Hill, Snoop Dogg | **Oldish**: Frank Sinatra, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Stevie Ray Vaughan, The Allman Brothers, Bob Seger and The Silver Bullet Band, The Doors, George Thorogood, Guns N' Roses, The Rolling Stones
- David Cook
The Mountain Goats; Neil Young; The Swell Season
- Mark Traphagen
The Smiths/Morrissey, Beastie Boys, Sublime, Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, STP, Chemical Brothers, EPMD, Ice Cube, Marvin Gaye, Interpol, Alice in Chains, Third Eye Blind, 311, Radiohead, U2, Prince, Blink-182, Fishbone, No Doubt, Red Hot Chili Peppers, 2Pac
- Live4Emma (L4S)
KATE BUSH, Depeche Mode, Ben Folds, the Pogues, Tom Waits, the Beatles, Chaka Khan, U2, Radiohead, Ultravox, the Cure, the Smiths, Sade, Cocteau Twins, the Sugarcubes, the English Beat, the Specials, Echo and the Bunnymen, Nina Simone, Billie Holiday, Snow Patrol, Chemical Brothers, Massive Attack, Tori Amos, the Jam
- Helen Sventitsky
Taking it to the root (as in without these artists I can't imagine other artists that followed registering or even existing) - The Jacksons, Aretha Franklin, Bjork, Stevie Wonder, New Edition, Oingo Boingo, De La Soul, Sleater-Kinney, Nina Simone, the Nuyorican Soul album, James Brown, The Brand New Heavies, Sergio Mendes, Roy Ayers, Dee-Lite
- Jason Toney
Tom Jobim, Jamiroquai, Brand New Heavies (cool to see those already listed here!), and Jason's also right about the Nuyorican Soul album. Pharcyde & Nas, and a few years before them, ATCQ and De La. If I were really really honest, there would be some not-that-great acts who I liked at the time and were introductions of a sort to genres where I then found better acts.
- Andrew C
Nine Inch Nails, The Chemical Brothers, Beastie Boys and Stevie Ray Vaughn
- Christian (Simply X)
The Cat Empire, Public Enemy, Blu & Exile, The Beatles, The Go! Team, Gogol Bordello, Burial
- Louis Simoneau
The 'foundational' stuff, in no particular order: Jean Michel Jarre, REM, The Police, U2, Oingo Boingo, Devo, Kraftwerk, Pink Floyd, The The, The Cure, Talking Heads, Tori Amos...
- Anthony Citrano
Current 93, Einstürzende Neubauten, Neutral Milk Hotel, In the Nursery, Mannheim Steamroller, and Jean Michel Jarre more than any other. Also, J.S. Bach, Philip Glass, and Arvo Pärt. And, to a lesser extent, Meat Beat Manifesto, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Miles Davis, and John Coltrane. Oh, and life without Ruins (and any of Tatsuya's other projects such as Korekyojin) and Merzbow isn't a life worth living.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Michael Jackson, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Nina Simone, Prince
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
George Clinton, Sly Stone, Prince, Patrice Rushen, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, De La Soul, Sade, Rick James, EPMD, Digital Underground, NWA, Steely Dan, Genesis, Rufus, The Police, Brand New Heavies
- Bryan R. Adams
Noir Désir, Nada Surf, Radiohead, Girls in Hawaii
- Stanislas Jourdan
John Lennon, Billy Joel, Pail Simon, REM, Led Zepplin. Common theme - lyrics.
- Steve C
Megadeth, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Robert Cray, Buddy Guy, The Bee Gees, The Mothers of Invention, not really a band but Wagner.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Sonic Youth
- Philip Tomlinson
Beatles, Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, The Alman Brothers, and Jimi Hendrix
- Brent Smorgen Bleg
the smiths, morrissey, depeche mode, and massive attack
- FIR
Second NHL team in Metro Toronto? - http://www.thestar.com/article...
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The possibility of a second NHL team in the GTA is being discussed, according to a published report today. The Globe and Mail is reporting a senior league official met with a group of business people who want to bring a second team to the Vaughan area.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
There has been much speculation that the Phoenix Coyotes are ripe for a move. The franchise is tied to an arena lease in Glendale, Ariz., until 2033, but the team lost an estimated $35-million (U.S.) this year. The NHL stepped in to keep the team afloat this season, and there is speculation the league may attempt to negotiate a deal to break the Glendale lease, in order to sell the club to a new owner.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
competition for the Leafs? Could finally bring ticket prices down
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
This has been toyed with so many times. I don't know if we'll see it happen. I don't know if Toronto is big enough to carry 2 NHL teams (even if it's located out in Vaughan).
- Mark Wilson
@Mark I'm thinking if their ticket prices cost 1/2 the price of Leaf tickets, it can happen, easily. Toronto LOVES hockey
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Shey, you're certainly right that Toronto LOVES hockey. Can't argue with that. I would like to see the Leafs get their asses in gear and try to build a reputable franchise. They are awful right now. They haven't won a cup since 1967. The way they're going, I don't think they'll ever win a Cup in my lifetime. Not that it really matters much to me. I'm a Wings fan. GO WINGS GO!
- Mark Wilson
Yup, the Leafs are definitely an awful franchise. I don't get why players still want to play here
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I could see the Coyotes moving to Toronto or Hamilton - although folks in Winnipeg will be ticked if the former Jets return to Canada.
- Bill Sodeman
I think it would be good if the two franchises COMPETED for fans and gave the Leafs a reason to put out a better product. But the cynic in me anticipates massive collusion and no real improvement.
- David Muir
+100 David
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
David, if the teams have rival ownership groups this could be fun. I still think Hamilton is a better place for the Coyotes, though I can't think of a new nickname for 'em. Too bad they can't go back to Winnipeg!
- Bill Sodeman
Yep... I think Hamilton would be a better choice for sure. And they could be called the Hamilton Harangue as in: "Address the crowd in a forceful way." (I always liked alliterative singular team names.) Still, Hamilton Coyotes would be okay I guess if they needed to keep their Phoenix name.
- David Muir
The Hamilton Tigers won the Stanley Cup in 1925. http://www.hockeynightinhamilton.com/
- Bill Sodeman
heh
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
It would probably be much easier for the NHL to place a new team or relocate a struggling US team in Canada, where the fan base is already in place. Force feeding teams into non traditional markets is no mean feat. The game has too many inherent barriers to entry that make it a unique and challenging sport to promote. The NHL is doing a great job of marketing at the top, but it's the bottom that needs to be continually nurtured and educated.
- Dana Fosburgh
Umair Haque: How to Save Newspapers (Or, Why the NYT Should Acquire Twitter) - http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/haque...
From a practical standpoint, they can't (not enough money to buy Twitter), but Umair deftly lays out four capabilities that will save newspapers: viral distribution, context, relational capital, and business model experimentation.
- Jeff Beckham
Thanks, Jeff. I 'cast that one.
- Jay Rosen
I enjoyed the read... but I had to disagree mostly. Here's my response: http://bit.ly/10wqXt
- David Muir
You made good points on your post, David. It's too late for the NYT to buy Twitter, of course, but not too late to explore the new ways of distribution and experimentation a micropublishing tool offers.
- Jeff Beckham
Oh, my blog is "ugly" right now @ramkinavy because it's being redesigned from the ground up. Gotta destroy before you can build!
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I'm just wondering why you couldn't keep the old stylesheets up until you have the redesign ready...?
- Tim McDougall
I am glad that you are redesigning, will it look more tech?
- Zachary TG
Not true. redesigns should happen in the background and be "Launched"
- Cody Heitschmidt
I'm glad the goofy pic of you pointing to whoever is gone.
- Alex Scoble
Yeah, this is just plain weird to me... seems like some sort of dev/staging vs production distinction is in order.
- Ken Sheppardson
Go for it Robert. Action breeds clarity. Iterating while getting feedback from outspoken people will allow you to arrive at a better end result. That doesn't make Cody and Ken wrong, but you are taking a different approach for sure... and your blog is still readable while you change it.
- David Muir
Tim: because it had stuff on there that I no longer wanted. I also wanted to "rip it down" to the basics and get rid of the pressure to "make it prettier."
- Robert Scoble
You don't do Beta? :)
- CAJ, somewhere else
Captions...
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DOH!
- Nathan Chase
The classic facepalm, as demonstrated by young Jimmy.
- Lindsay
Facepalm, day 0
- directeur
"Ugh, how embarrasing, my dad put the diapers on backwards again."
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Internetz sarcasm, I haz it.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
I was born into the wrong family.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
Too much formula!!
- Yolanda
You forgot my binky...again. Seriously, Mom?
- Josh Haley
What a formula hangover I have! No more late night parties at the crib!
- CAJ, somewhere else
++extra points for use of "crib" Alan
- Josh Haley
Alan wins
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Oh God, seriously? My picture's on FriendFeed with a bunch of yahoos trying to come up with captions?
- David Muir
'Time to make the donuts.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
Oprah's on Twitter....
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
1UP Gunny
- Josh Haley
"I coulda had a V-8!!"
- Seth Greenblatt
I should of had a V8
- (jeff)isageek
I CANNOT believe Louis Gray is not my dad! Damn!
- (jeff)isageek
"I think I just shat my pants"
- Toby Graham
My parents won't let me have elastic, so this is the only way I can be a pirate.
- LogEx
There goes my 401k
- Mike Reynolds
Oh......nuts... a few months ago I was Heath Ledger... now I have to DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN!?!
- Off Madison Ave
*epicfacepalm*
- Roberto Bonini
Not Barney again.....
- Roberto Bonini
You're gonna play "Gotcha nose!" again, aren't you!?!
- Seth Greenblatt
Wait, I came out of WHAT?!??
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
i.D.
- Onur Gündüz
Not the carrots again for lunch.
- Russ Jackson
even worse ... strained carrots!
- Tatty Gibson
I can't believe these internet noobs...
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
o...m...blblbbgrlbb
- Josh Haley
I knew I shouldna let my parents take those photos of me in the tub.
- Steven Perez
OMG, I just sharted...
- Christian (Simply X)
Scoble said I have to do WHAT to get followers?!
- Kate
I liked it better when I was Brad Pitt in his prime.
- Bryan R. Adams
...OMG, he IS Luke's father!!!
- JA Castillo
Re-incarnation is REAL?! I have to do all that AGAIN?! GAH!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Rah wins!
- Janet
Awww...DOH is already taken!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Coulda had a V8!
- BEX
Facepalm ,,Dad stop playing with damn camera
- johnpiercy
Tina wins IMO.
- Karl Knechtel
Not that Baby Food Crap ..again ...
- johnpiercy
John, I think that's what his parents often think.
- Akiva Moskovitz
LOL
- Derrick
Watch where you swing that elbow!
- Mohamed J
Dear God, I look like my Old Man.
- Dawn
I can't stop laughing at this tread LOL
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
"I cannot imagine what will happen to my great MySQL farms. Oh, that darn Oracle"
- Toni @ NavinoT
swear to god, that bitch will pay for this pink eye.
- rama mamuaya
Good Grief!
- Fake Elmo
You mean I should be tweeting already at my age?
- Edward Phillip Bell
facepalm, The only logical answer to a stupid question or statement.
- Alastair Montgomery
"Oh great, another news story about Ashton Kutcher being on Twitter!"
- Sharon McPherson
"Please tell me I'm adopted."
- Trish Haley
Why Dominos video response at http://www.youtube.com/watch... is going to be textbook:
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1. They did it in video. THAT is the way to respond. Not text. Video says MUCH MORE than text can.
- Robert Scoble
2. They went overboard with the response. They closed down the store and "sanitized it."
- Robert Scoble
3. The CEO did it and repeated that nothing is more important that our trust. He demonstrated he understood the issue.
- Robert Scoble
4. He thanked influencers for helping Dominos understand the issue and making sure that others knew about it.
- Robert Scoble
5. He responded while the issue is still "hot."
- Robert Scoble
6. He responded on YouTube, which is where the crisis started, not on their own video platform.
- Robert Scoble
7. He communicated that there was "immediate" action including arrest warrants, and people getting fired.
- Robert Scoble
Impressive.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
He didn't look straight into the camera, however - as pointed out by Steve Garfield.
- l0ckergn0me
8. He knows that the real problem is that they hired idiots and are "reexamining" all hiring practices. THAT is the best way to make sure you get a good brand.
- Robert Scoble
9. He used personal language "it sickens me." Not marketing speak.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting mix of being apologetic and totally pissed at the same time. Overall thumbs up from me.
- Mike Doeff
10. He is working to "regain our trust."
- Robert Scoble
Is there anything else he could have done to answer this crisis?
- Robert Scoble
He didn't offer us a coupon to make us feel better. I didn't feel condescended to.
- Kevin Fox
Good lead, Robert. Glad to see discussion around the response.
- Valeria Maltoni
Now if he could just work on making the pizza not taste so bad.
- Dave Roth
now is the best time to go to Domino's in Conover. clean as a whistle.
- nesman89
Fantastic job, I thought.
- Matthew Freeman
Ok, so how bout some back ground?
- Matthew DeVries
I don't mind that he didn't look straight into the camera. That shows he isn't "slick" or "overcoached."
- Robert Scoble
Yes, it would have been better if he had looked into the camera, but given that a teleprompter is an expensive item, and rigging a two-way mirror with a magnified view of a printed script is a hassle... I think the minor shortfall can be forgiven. All seven of Robert's points remain absolutely valid.
- David Muir
Matthew: Here's the background: http://beta.friendfeed.com/thomash...
- Robert Scoble
Textbook is the best way to go. Swift and done. Now in time, people will forget, crave cheap, fast, and delivered food, and it's over.
- Mike Lewis
Very well handled. I agree with you, Robert, this will make its way into textbooks alongside Tylenol's response to the poisoning crisis three decades ago.
- Stephen Mack
Matthew: I already posted a link to the background. http://beta.friendfeed.com/thomash...
- Robert Scoble
Or here if you wanna go straight to the source: http://consumerist.com/5210648...
- Stephen Mack
They just taught a lot of clueless PR people how to handle a crisis like this. Well done.
- Inside Alaska
I think theyve been handling this like pros from the getgo. Good job
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Pretty slick. Many can learn from it.
- Katie Dob
The woman is also a registered sex offender apparently: http://ncfindoffender.com/details...
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
so far this year, that's, what, rats in the peanuts, perchlorate in the babby formula, prescription drugs in the drinking water, snot in the pizza... what was safe to ingest again?
- Karim
Bravo, Dominos. Nicely done. Speak up or be spoken for.
- kevin j higgins
But he's using a teleprompter. He's evil.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
tehKenny: I don't think he was. I bet that he was looking at some notes, though. It didn't come across like he was reading. For someone not experienced with a teleprompter you can not use one and not come across like you're reading.
- Robert Scoble
Their response was appropriate and in a timely manner which is key now.
- Christi
Anyone who has ever used a teleprompter realizes how hard it is to use one and how hard it is to look natural doing it. I bet he had someone off to the side of the camera he was talking to who was holding notes up to remind him what to talk.
- Robert Scoble
I wasn't there, obviously, but watching the CEO look off-camera yet speak as if to a person made me think he was looking at a person to stay "real" and "personable" and not canned or offering a performance.
- Bloom Seed
It's just pizza
- Ari Braginsky
Carmen: "W" had a LOT of media training and a team of people to tell him how to do it. I doubt this CEO has had much media training.
- Robert Scoble
rewatching it makes it clear that he's reading notes (his focus starts at top, moves down as recording proceeds). Still, though, comes across as a real person. Not everything needs professional actors, producers, makeup, sets...imperfect may be the new perfect, as far as communicating genuineness.
- Bloom Seed
Comes across as very heart-felt, and almost makes me want to order with them (I'm not sure we have them here in this town)! Shouldn't they have added something like "We'll now be installing cams in all our kitchens streaming direct to Ustream, making us the ONLY food delivery you can trust to not mess your food"? :)
- Philipp Lenssen
Philipp: well, that would certainly be cool but would be way beyond something they could deliver on in two days.
- Robert Scoble
I mean, I'm not a big fan of Dominos, but this helps them establish themselves as giving a crap. Good PR move.
- Mike Nayyar
Great video response straight from the company president. As for watching food getting prepared, the Papa John's locations that I've been to are open and you can basically see them making your pie. Not sure if Domino's has stores like that...
- Doug
Carmen, it's the "polished" vs "timely" tug of war: http://fftogo.com/e...
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
solid performance-- came across naturally and believable, blend of professionalism and good ole fashion ass-kicking anger. It was smooth but not overly slick; no suit or tie and shot in store surrounding. Content was solid too, assuring customers everything that could be done was being done. One minor tweak: he doesn't appear to be looking directly at the camera.
- mark ivey
I wonder if they thought about making it a response to "that video" on youtube to get the eyeballs needed to make this count..
- Tom Masiero
Ari - it's more than "just pizza" - it's the livelihood of 125k employees. We are focused here on a textbook response, but this is also a clear demonstration of the power of leverage that SM holds: two idiots can do major damage to the brand, the company, and by ultimately to the employees. Hat's off to Mr. Doyle and his advisers.
- Bill Sanders
good response for sure, way to go
- sean percival
Rewatched it and yes he is reading it. Regardless, I think it was handled pretty appropriately.
- Jay Neff
good job. small nit: next time they need to move the teleprompter (or cue cards) either over or under the camera.
- MikeAmundsen
Video is good if Good Messenger (which Domino's guy IS) But also put the incident on my radar screen, which hitherto I was unaware of.
- JimmyJet
Wasn't aware of the incident but sure feel bad for the independent operator..
- MiaD
The woman in the Wendy's chili fraud case ended up sentenced to 9 years in prison and her husband (who bought the finger off a co-worker who lost it in an industrial accident) got 12 years. http://www.bluemaumau.org/wendys_...
- Kevin Fox
I wish that he was looking at the camera instead of a telepromter. Just sayin.
- Andrew Baron
Andrew: he's not looking at a teleprompter. I bet someone is holding a notepad with an outline on it for him.
- Robert Scoble
I haven't had Domino's in a long time. But, I'm happy to see that they put up this Video response to the malicious destruction of their Brand and business practices.
- rob friedman
good job. that was a classy way to 'avoid the noid.'
- grant fox
Hey Robert, can I use some of your reasons in a blog post in writing up about the Domino's issue?
- Kenneth
Kenneth: yes, feel free!
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert!
- Kenneth
"Everyone else is doing it right." Yeah, right. [What are the odds of that?]
- Craig Brownell
I kept hoping he'd actually look into the camera.
- James Miao
I agree with James. I was hoping that he would look at the camera like he's talking to his customers. I get that he needs to make sure he says exactly what needs to to said, but the way he kept looking away from the camera made it seem a little "stiff".
- Kenneth
like when dirk diggler looked into the camera during his documentary. that was powerful stuff.
- grant fox
Kenneth: that's a mistake someone who isn't media trained makes. I actually don't mind that because it makes it less slick.
- Robert Scoble
My guess is that they're multiple cameras and he's looking at the expensive one
- Bwana ☠
Robert: Really? If corporate heads are on camera, they should NOT look at the camera especially if they're not being interviewed? It looks natural not to look at the camera? You're definitely right...I'm not media trained. :) Looks like he was reading off of a script and didn't notice a camera at him.
- Kenneth
Who was he talking to? The sound guy holding the microphone to the right of the camera?
- Diego Barros
Kenneth: the only time you should look at the camera is when you want to speak directly to the viewer. You are right that he should have been speaking directly into the camera. Knowing where to look is part of media training. A good PR team could have helped (IE, one that had worked a lot with video before) but I can't really blame him. I still have trouble figuring this out. When I was on the BBC it was very difficult to look into the camera (it was aplate on the wall).
- Robert Scoble
i just have to say, that by him not looking in the camera, or really doing any of this before it seems adds to his character that he's a regular guy, not some PR trained monkey doing a dance for us.
- rob friedman
I dunno, I think it's more important that the response seem unrehearsed. I'll bet he did it in one take.
- Ken Morley
Well done Robert: not a surprise to see this crew recognizes excellence when they see it. Dominos did virtually everything right on this aspect of its response. having seen a few crises, this example is among the best. blogged it here: http://www.mediadeluge.com/post...
- Christian Anderson
Just to let folks know: the teleprompters I am familiar with allow the newscaster or talking head to look directly at the camera AND read the script. The result is like a HUD (heads-up display) for those familiar with video games or jet fighters.
- David Muir
Right David, but there are all kinds of "teleprompters" some low tech and some higher tech. the point is he was reading. It was okay, he did a great job in one take. It would have been better if he hadnt read it and looked directly at the camera, but because everything else was so well done, the reading gets a pass
- Christian Anderson
Not a fan of their pies, but kudos to Dominoes for the forthright reply and apology for the miscreants who brought this upon them. Hope they rebound well from this.
- JA Castillo
Definitely a canned response but still heartfelt and sincere. Plus we learned its a federal felony to stuff cheese up your nose on camera. Imagine what happens at McDonalds on a daily basis - now that's frightening.
- Chris Sparno
Very lucky that they had a CEO that even was willing to talk for YouTube in the moment; let's not now criticize him for his media training, or none will ever have the guts to do it again.
- Francine Hardaway
Rich: This is deadly serious for him. He's right to take it seriously and I'm sure he genuinely does.
- Michael Krigsman
So the real question is, who feels comfortable enough to order Domino's this weekend?
- Chris Bartow
I do Chris, even more-so now than before. This weekend will be the cleanest in the franchise's history :)
- Bwana ☠
@Karim: "snot in the pizza... what was safe to ingest again?" Years ago, I ordered a pizza (not from Domino's) and was surprised to see a piece of broken glass in it — and this particular glass shard had part of the pizza company logo on it! When I phoned them about it, they replaced the pizza in record time; of course, they asked for the broken glass back, too, so I couldn't keep the evidence.
- Victor Panlilio
Victor *shudder* i think i would have just given up eating pizza after that :-D
- Karim
The comments on You Tube are negative I don't agree with them, what is your opinion abut them? (They say Doyle is not sincere)
- Maurizio Goetz
Rule #0 - Youtube comments have the value of a single molecule of feces
- Bwana ☠
+1 Bwana!!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
His response was right on and pretty smart for doing it via a video. It's sad but we are at the mercy of people that prepare our food. :-( I kind of feel bad for the kids because what they did shows a complete lack of intelligence. It would be nice if they took responsible and apologized in some sort of public forum.
- John McCullough
@John McCullough "we are at the mercy of people that prepare our food" and people who pilot the planes we fly in, treat our municipal drinking water, etc. I daresay we only appreciate them when things go horribly wrong.
- Victor Panlilio
@Chris White "The founder of Domino's supports Right to LIfe and Operation Rescue, which IMO, is worse than putting farts on sandwiches" Really? Watch the video at http://www.abortionno.org/ and see if you can stomach the idea that we dispose of unwanted human beings so cavalierly.
- Victor Panlilio
Victor, your comment as well as John's above you, reminds me of that line in Fight Club: "We do your laundry, cook your food and serve you dinner. We guard you while you sleep. We drive your ambulances..."
- Aaron Kurtz
@Aaron - almost everything we take for granted in "civilized society" depends on the everyday goodwill (and conscientiousness) of anonymous others. I've always thought that we need to become more mindful of the benefits we daily receive from these enablers of our well-being. Count your blessings, etc.
- Victor Panlilio
Victor, I couldn't agree more.
- Aaron Kurtz
John Madden retires http://www.nydailynews.com/sports...
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In a statement issued Thursday morning, Madden, who was NBC's No. 1 NFL analyst on the Peacock's Sunday night package, said: "It's time. I'm 73 years old...It's been such a great ride...the NFL has been my life for more than 40 years, it has been my passion - it still is. I appreciate all of the people who are and were such an important part of the most enjoyable, most fun anyone could have...It's still fun and that's what makes it hard and that's why it took me a few months to make a decision."
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Madden, who coached the Oakland Raiders to seven AFC Western Division titles and a win over the Vikings, in Super Bowl XI, started his broadcasting career at CBS. He also worked with Fox and ABC on "Monday Night Football." His likely replacement at NBC will be Cris Collinsworth.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
OH NO. Cris Collinsworth IS THE WORST. Thanks for all the good and all the bad, John!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
End of an era.
- Bryan R. Adams
Indeed Bryan
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Boom!
- Andrew Smith
BOOM!
- grant fox
Collinsworth? Anyway this is big media news on a big media personality, big change.
- Patrick Boegel
Could we have an X-O diagram of the places that Madden worked.
- Greg Guitarbuster
When my grandchildren are playing Madden 2069, I'll be able to tell them that I remember when Madden was a real live announcer. Thanks for the memories.
- Mike Lewis
Anyone have Dennis Miller's phone number?
- Josh Haley
"After Brett Favre retired, there was no reason to go on..." - John Madden
- Cee Bee
Wait, Chris Collinsworth? Holy crap! That guy sure knows how to climb the corporate ladder. If we could just get him a voice modulator to dial down the GRATING.
- Josh Haley
Collinsworth = me not watching!
- Steve Lowe
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- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Collinsworth's voice isn't great, but I like his analysis. At least he isn't stating the overly obvious a la Madden.
- Jared B. Luther
I'm glad he retired, because his commentary has been pointless rambling lately. I have to mute the TV to stop the headaches.
- Bwana ☠
They probably couldn't afford the bus
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
@tehKenny LMAO
- grant fox
@ChrisW yup. I wonder if we'll still be blessed with his enlightening commentary in future Madden games? I don't think he does it for Madden 09
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Congrats to Madden for going out on top, I'm going to miss him
- Rick Bucich
Maddenshould have retired instead of moving to NBC. So who moves into the NBC SNF announcing booth now... Chris Collinsworth?!?
- Bill Sodeman
No, Costas would have been even worse... great interviewer and Olympics anchor, but Bob's a dilettante in the booth these days.
- Bill Sodeman
I think Aikman and Joe Buck are the best NFL duo out there today. time to call them up to the big leagues.
- grant fox
The Fox guys are the best, HANDS DOWN.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I loved Madden for most of his career. Made the game understandable in my early days learning the rules and recently made it just... fun. But just last year I noticed he was a little shaky so I think it is the right time to retire. I am probably one of the few that doesn't mind Cris Collinsworth. I'll give him a chance at least.
- David Muir
Hey David, long time no see :)
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I liked Madden especially when he was paired with Pat Summerall but it is time for a change. I would prefer Chris Collinsworth over Bob Costa
- Kim Landwehr
+1 Kim -- they were really good together
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Cee Bee has the perfect read on this. He doesn't consider football to be a sport if Bret Favre isn't participating.
- Matthew DeVries
I grew up on Madden & Summerall. I remember the 82 NFC title game, Skins vs. Cowboys and them callin that game. One of my earliest memories of games. He will be missed.
- Amani
Hi Shey... thanks for the greeting. I have been busy job hunting. :-)
- David Muir
Wish you the best of luck David :)
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
One word: Turducken!
- Morgan Haley
And for all you Collinsworth haters: Yeah, he sucks as an announcer. But check out the back of his football card sometime. Bad ass mutherfugging white dude. Even if he did play with a Junior Varsity Girls Team like the Bengals
- Morgan Haley
*Hates on Collinsworth some more*
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
That's a major thing that football just has never had is the perfect announcer(s). There is just no equivalent to what baseball had in Ernie Harwell, Harry Kalas, Mel Allen, or Harry Kalas. The closest to it they ever had was that dude who did the narration for NFL films. Hockey has/had some amazing announcers too. Can't think of any in basketball or football who ever moved me or made me want to stay with a bad game, just cause they were calling it.
- Matthew DeVries
Oh yeah! Keith Jackson. I'd listen to him call a game of Shey and his brother playing Tecmo Bowl, but that's it.
- Matthew DeVries
*gasp* Matthew did you speak of baseball and NOT mention Vin Scully. Oh dear ... He is top 3 at a min.
- Amani
It really is about time. Really.
- Martha
...i'm a day late and a dollar short on this one. that's what i get for going out drinking with buddies! .LOLz
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Re: Comfort in media - http://davidmuir.name/...
"Thanks for the comment and the links, Brian. The work being done to improve readability through typography without improving resolution is fascinating. In addition to the resolution, what bugs my eyes on an electronic device is the light (either from the screen itself or glare from the room's lights), which is why I still prefer to read from paper. However, I sometimes wonder if the readability really was better on newsprint than today's hi-res screens. That's because I find the bleeding of the ink into the newsprint fibres often makes a newspaper's font look fuzzy."
- David Muir
I am looking for workflows/processes that help with ensuring the continuity of steady posting in a collective blog, where there are more than one author whose primary job is not blogging. Any ideas/recommendations?
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What do you mean by continuity of steady posting? If you're talking about post scheduling, timing, etc, generally that would be a task managed by the site's editors/publishers as they manage the incoming articles from writers.
- Aaron B. Hockley
i mean, creating a workflow for a group to ensure the blog is being updated with appropriate posts regularly. i know that an editor is needed - just exploring processes that editors and other authors follow
- Engin Erdogan
is this the first blog within your organization? are you still trying to prove that blogging and engagement is important?
- Randy Ksar
it will not be the first blog, but yes - part of it is to make a point for engagement is important.
- Engin Erdogan
sounds interesting - would like to hear more comments on this topic as well
- Peter Efland
the lack of responses tell me that i asked the question in a difficult to understand way. OR people think that there is not much to talk about this
- Engin Erdogan
In a collaborative contribution environment, seed ideas are key. Workflow would look something like this: 1. throw topic ideas into the pool, 2. assign writers from the "queue" OR have writers pluck the topic from the pool that most appeals to them, 3. track comments and topics in the blogosphere to add new ideas to the pool, 4. include a short review cycle to improve quality and spin off new ideas for the pool while still keeping the posting timely and relevant.
- David Muir
David, thanks for the thoughtful response
- Engin Erdogan
have you started with a blogging editorial calendar yet?
- Randy Ksar
yes, well - not as formal as a calendar, but more with weekly posting goals - do you have any examples?
- Engin Erdogan
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