As mentioned earlier today, Twitter seems to have capped your ability to follow at 2,000 people, which just so happens to be exactly where I am. The goal, in theory, is to stop marketing-oriented spammers, but it could be another way to reduce stress on the system. So what should I do now, delete "less favored" people, or wait for Twitter to figure this out?
- Louis Gray
from email
Maybe it's the legacy talking, but I'm really not bothered by this. :P
- l0ckergn0me
I can see why they do it, but it does suck for the people who do it legitimately and are not using stupid mass follow scripts.
- David Risley
I'm not super-concerned either, but it does answer why all of a sudden, I started getting these errors last week. It could be part of their "Making Progress On Spam" initiative via the blog, but it hasn't been spelled out all that clearly.
- Louis Gray
let blame this one on Scobles... :)-
- Peter Dawson
Louis, I think cap is more of the architecture the system. Making it into a more robust platform. Now watermarks have been set, it becomes easier to build consistency of experience and application behavior. <Edit > wait for Twitter to figure it out.. Marketing spammers are targeting the 'stupid' one that have the auto follow !!
- Peter Dawson
gotta like it, if I'm the one you are trying to follow!
- Ben Hedrington
I don't think there should be limits like this, but I guess everything can't be infinite
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
I honestly am indifferent about it; Twitter is going to hell and i tried my best to convert it; oh well, Hell has cookies
- Gordon Swaby
I"m only following 49... with 106 followers..
- Ian May
so what do you think, Louis, is benhedrington worth going to the mat for?
- Nathan Rein
I'm sure I can find someone to unfollow in exchange for Ben.
- Louis Gray
Twitter needs to build in groups functionality a la tweetdeck for following 2K+ to even be practical.
- Nicholas Molnar
Louis: You need to convince the new people to head over here :)
- Justin Korn
I'm just curious what the rationale is for following that many people.
- Paul Rodriguez
Well, maybe that's why Louis always seems to know what's going on before anybody else.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
I've noticed that most of the time I get followed by somebody with a big number, it tends to be marketing play. It triggers the email to you and then you go look and click on their bio link which takes you to the pitch. Very irritating. I always block em.
- Mark Schulz
@Paul Rodriguez, I was wondering that too. I wouldn't have even guessed there are 2000 interesting people in the world </cynicism>, but what fascinate me is that i'm following like 83 people and only about 14 of them tweet regularly. I can assume most of those 2000 do not tweet regularly. Add in the fact that I'm a WAHM to two toddlers, and do other stuff, there'd be a lot of stuff I'd miss.
- Anika
New profit center? Sorry, but now you'll have to join Twitter Pro ....
- Charlie Anzman
Very interesting. System limits is going to be a topic that we all work through in this early phase of the Social Web. It seems to me that it's reasonable to cap the number one follows to 1,000 or 2,000. On the flipside, one would clearly like to enable a very high number of followers. With respect to bi-directional connections, the real number should max at 1,000 to 2,000...
- John McCrea
This is awesome! Incidentally, Scoble (@Scobleizer) is still following over 30K.
- Vincent van Wylick
So where is the point following 30k people? You might as well hit the main timeline. The only thing that is bad about this limit is that it was not there from the beginning.
- Alexander Kohlhofer
so what's going to happen to those who follow over 2000?
- Wayne Sutton
you follow two. thousand. people.??? never mind twitter; there may be a law against that.
- jeneane sessum
I like the new limit. I cannot see how anyone would be able to legitimately follow (and pay attention to) more than 2,000 people. Frankly, even that limit seems higher than it needs to be. If it helps keep Twitter a little more stable, go for it.
- Dennis Metzcher
Couple thoughts: the limit impacts the ability to use the service as a direct message router -- for some people. It also reinforces the need for dectralized microblogging -- so if you want exceed the limits you can do so on your own infrastructure. Lastly, nothing prevents you from following everyone or a subset of people through RSS/feeds.
- Chris Messina
Are we sure that Twitter has set a 2,000 limit are or we cranking up the rumor mill? I've seen image before with respect to my own account - an account which just reached 1,000 followers today. According the Twitter rep who contacted me, I got - ahem - put in "Twitter Prison" for "Aggressive Following" My ratio of Followers to Following was kinda out of whack - at that time I had only ~800 people following me while I was following ~2,800 - They suspended my ability to follow more people. I removed 2K.
- Vincent Wright
I don't understand the motivation for following 2K people if you're not a spammer... someone explain?
- Jason Carreira
Jason: For a entrepreneur/VC/angel networker, it would be very easy to hit 2,000 contacts (assuming you used Twitter like a rolodex). From one networking meeting, I might pick up 0-100+ business cards (more at conferences), and during a heavy season I could be doing 7-10 meetings/week. As a angel, I might want to follow 5,000-10,000+ projects/people. Anyone might have a really good project 2-10+ years down the pipe... I've got cartons/boxes of 3-ring binders of business cards in plastic sheets.
- Mitchell Tsai
@Mitchell @Charlie - Rumors aside, do you think the cap is a gesture towards monetization? Going after the power networkers? Seems you would have good cause to pay for a Twitter Pro, or would it just not be worth it?
- joneilortiz
I use Twitter as both a professional development tool (following people who say useful and interesting things abt health / edtech / social media / libraries ...), a personal tool (friends and folk who are amusing), and a reference tool (following a lot of news streams and information resources). You can hit 2000 fast. A friend says that people are imagining new ways in which Twitter could be used, but Twitter seems bound and determined to force them back into some small box of how it "ought" to be.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I would happily follow more than 2000 people, heck I am almost there. And I don't need to see every message. With Tweetdeck it's manageable. I see some Friendfeed users here have thousands to tens of thousands of subscriptions, should we also say it's good to have a cap here? No, please no. I understand that perhaps it has to do with monetization or stressing the system less, these are alas viable reasons.
- Jacob
It is, but not great. Friendfeed have their own native app due to come out in the App Store any minute - and I have a feeling it will be better than any of the current 3rd party offerings ...
- Patrick Jordan
I really don't like the feel of the scrolling on this one. Also, it seems like a lot of screen real estate is wasted by having a sizable avatar icon next to every single entry. I do like how you can post directly to FF with it, including saved photos or a newly taken photo. Yes, mailtoff does this, but direct uploading should be the standard. Also, the bookmarklet they have for it will not include photos, at least I don't see how it could be done. Worth 99 cents? Sure.
- Josh Haley
It's not a bad app. It needs a few UI improvements, but it seems solid enough to use as my mobile FF client. Looking forward to updates.
- Dennis Metzcher
from BuddyFeed
Wow - Michael has always been one of the best writers in the business. I do not blame him at all in wanting to take time and reflect. Having been in the tech field over 20 years I have done that a couple of times myself for other reasons. Michael if you are reading you have a lot of support amongst the .tech community.
- Rob Cairns
amazing the abuse he has to take. He does a fine job with reporting, despite whatever personal objections some people may have against him. I'm sure there are quite a few people that have personal objections with me!
- Zach Landes
It's the result of his offending and untruthful acting. If I would meet Arrignton in person, I would tell him exactly what I think of him. I wouldn't harm someone or spit him in his face, but I would say to him, that I think he is an asshole that only can bash other people, markets, and not having a little bit of neutrality. This is the result of abusing whole Europe with his hate speeches recently, which lead to Loic's voting to keep him from LeWeb. I don't need no hate speaker on a tech blog.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
@ryo you may dislike him, but why is it necessary to share your opinion with him? If every person that doesn't like you had to tell you why whenever they saw you, life would be pretty unbearable, don't you think? I think people should keep such opinions to themselves unless they think that sharing them will affect some kind of change.
- Zach Landes
@Zach: You're right, but at last he should know, that he can not do such thing without facing consequences. I don't know if you are aware what he did on LeWeb 2008. And I think it might change something. You see that it already has. At last, we have free speech, which include telling someone your opinion, even if he gives a shit about.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
One unpublicized feature introduced by Apple's latest iPhone software updates is the ability to save Web apps to the home screen and have them launch in full-screen mode without the Safari wrapper, essentially mimicking the experience of a native app.
- LF Martins
from Bookmarklet
Nice new feature. Google should begin taking advantage of it for Reader and Gmail on the iPhone.
- Dennis Metzcher
Cooliris pulled the app themselves due to a bug in the iPhone OS 2.1 that affects the uninstallation of certain apps including cooliris. Check this out: http://blog.cooliris.com/2008...
- Brad Brooks
thanks, Brad. Looking forward to the new release
- Baard @ Pixum
"The iPhone has made a name for itself throughout the land as a great platform for location-based applications and services, and there is no shortage of contenders for the throne. Unfortunately for them, however, the true king has just been submitted for review to the iTunes App Store: Brightkite."
- Baard @ Pixum
from Bookmarklet
@Ryan - Need an invite? I can spare a few.
- Grey Drane
I also have a bunch if anyone else needs one
- Simon Wicks
I'd love an invite, Grey I just sent you a direct msg on twitter with my email addy. Thanks
- Ryan
Appears I can't since you are not following me.
- Ryan
@Ryan - Taken care of just now. Try again. :)
- Grey Drane
I have ten invites. Tell me if you need one. baard.hansen[]gmail.com
- Baard @ Pixum
Do you need a jailbroken phone for this? If not, hook me up. ahrob19[]gmail.com
- Amani
no, you don't need a jailbroken iPhone.
- Baard @ Pixum
It looks great, but it kind of crashes 9 in 10 times when trying to post an entry. I can hardly wait for the first bugfix update. I gave up until then.
- Dani Radu
Having a low point- checked in with Y Combinator and read the submission guidelines again, and they really don't usually give funds to single entrepreneurs. I have a good beta, and others have said it's ripe, but still, having the expected down-swing. Oh well.
Anna, you don't really know what will happen until you try. Enter your submission and go for it. Meanwhile, don't bank everything on them accepting you. Continue running your beta as if you hadn't submitted to YCombinator and keep bootstrapping for as long as you can and looking for other funding. Best of luck to you!
- Dread Pirate PJ
A company called OLO Computer is working on a small laptop that'll cradle your iPhone and allow you to use it with a large screen and full keyboard. You'll simply pop the iPhone into a space where the trackpad usually sits, turning the iPhone into a trackpad. You'll then be able to type out e-mails or text messages using the keyboard, sending them through your phone.
- Hao Chen
from Bookmarklet
Wasn't this similar to Palm's concept for the Foleo?
- David Adam
Such a law suit concept, Steve loves them :)
- Yunus Tunak
What's with the image on the screen? I know it's just a mockup, but certainly it won't actually have Mac OS X running via the iPhone. It would be cool to include a copy of Linux on the iPhone, and allow that OS to be used when the device is docked. The question is whether or not that's possible with Apple's official SDK.
- Dennis Metzcher
I'm not shocked. Obama's message has been a sharp contrast of Bush, Jr, who has one of the most unfavorable ratings of any US President in American history.
- Dennis Metzcher
The comments alone are worth the read. Politics seems to bring out the worst in a lot of people.
- Henry Burger
"Dramesi says he has no desire to dishonor McCain's service, but he believes that celebrating the downed pilot's behavior as heroic — "he wasn't exceptional one way or the other" — has a corrosive effect on military discipline. "This business of my country before my life?" Dramesi says. "Well, he had that opportunity and failed miserably. If it really were country first, John McCain would probably be walking around without one or two arms or legs — or he'd be dead."
- EricaJoy
This hasn't made it to factcheck.org yet -- does anyone know of a reputable site that's either fact-checked or responded to this article?
- Tom Stocky
Berge told us that we’d know if the Nebraska 2d congressional district internals had the McCain camp worried if we started seeing Republican surrogates in the area. With every day's time so precious for each candidate -- an issue of resource allocation -- campaigns have to prioritize where the smartest expenditure of time will be. The nominee or VP nominee going to an area is a big deal.
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
As of now, this article from 538 has 533 comments.
- Mike Reynolds
McCain, Obama... they're politicians, this is what they ALL do. Get past it if you really want to find some semblance of substance in their message, ideals, and philosophies.
- Ron Emrick
There's a good reason this ad is satisfying -- we're hiring a President. You don't want the President to always turn the other cheek, sometimes you've got to hit back to get respect. That's the way the world works, like it or not. BTW, I don't like it -- but I accept it.
- Dave Winer
Agreed, they're politicians. But the message from Obama that has reeled me in was one of straightforward talk, even if it was uncomfortable. The dude's speech on race was such a "this is who I am, if you don't like it...too f*cking bad". And really, after the Paris Hilton response video, any other follow up to the McCain ad was guaranteed to pale in comparison.
- cjmart
I love this ad and every response they've done so far. This is not a personal attack, but a straight out attack on the foundations of the mans image that is necessary for victory and to save our country. It is crucial that he be known for what he is. If they came out directly attacking him for cheating on his wife while she was laid up in the hospital, that would be a different story. Bravo Obama team!
- Brad Nickel
@Dave - For the record, I don't like it, and I do accept it as well. Just b/c I accept it doesn't mean I'm going to hold back on my dislike of it..
- cjmart
@Ron - The reality for me is that Obama has raised my expectations for politicians. Now that he has raised the bar (in my mind), I would like to see him stay up there.
- cjmart
@Chris - I am curious what bothers you about it. Is it that it is negative at all? Do you think he could go through to election day without striking out at McCain's image as a Maverick good boy while getting slammed by them? The line for me is personal attacks. Otherwise, I think everything policy related is fair game. This is about selling out our government for fame.
- Brad Nickel
Maybe it's that I consider myself a realist (aka cynic) when it comes to politics. But I know I have drunk the Obama-laced kool-aid, and I think that makes me a bit uncomfortable. The result is that I may be extra critical of anything his campaign does that seems to run contrary to what he preaches, so to speak.
- cjmart
@Chris - That makes sense. Good for you. I prefer to think of it as Tang, but I completely understand. ;) Brad
- Brad Nickel
Brent it would not cause me to, but it might cause quite a few "undecideds" to decide. And if the election were pretty close....
- Joanmarie
Brent, I think something like this would have the potential to disrupt a campaign in a big way. Wouldn't matter to many people, but those on the fence, it certainly would.
- John Walker
Well I hope I have the opportunity to vote for Elizabeth Edwards for president in 2016.
- Adam Mordecai
I always wonder about those on the fence. Even with McCain being a "maverick," the differences between him and either Obama or Edwards is immense. What are those on the fence waiting for? And then I wonder if those on the fence aren't smarter than I am, that maybe someone's claimed policy isn't worth that much if he has no integrity. Doesn't it make more sense to vote for character? And I'm stuck looking for integrity in this race?
- Brent Logan
It wouldn't have stopped me for voting for him, but it certainly would have destroyed his campaign and he would not have been elected. Such is the nation in which we live. What bothers me, I suppose, about Edwards, is what bothers me about many politicians. Their arrogance causes them to believe that they will never be caught for the things they do. You simply cannot hide your skeletons when you run for President (unless you get your father or his appointees to seal records and hide them for you).
- Dennis Metzcher
Brent, no of course I would have voted for the Democrat. But he would have lost anyway, not that he would have gotten the nomination, he would have withdrawn in disgrace once it came out as it was sure to. I'm surprised he didn't understand that. He couldn't have been President, all he could have done was destroy the Democratic Party.
- Dave Winer
And it's not about the people on the fence -- it's about the press. They have the power to delete a candidate. Look what they did to Dean.
- Dave Winer
If Edwards had won the nomination, he wouldn't have had enough free time to go back to the hotel and get caught ;-)
- Kirk Kittell
Edwards made a big mistake by running. He had a shot at a cabinet position in the new administration, although his confirmation hearing was a hurdle he would have had trouble with. He should have kept his dick in his pants. What an idiot. Unbelievably stupid, self-destructive.
- Dave Winer
Now everyone should have a good idea why HRC can't be the Democratic nominee for VP. The skeletons in her closet are much worse, and they aren't in the closet. Obama didn't call her on it, and the press gave her a pass in the primary. It wouldn't happen in the fall, she'd be held to account for them, there was outright bribery in the last days of the Clinton Administration, and she was part of it. Not a bystander.
- Dave Winer
@Dave Winer (davew): You're right, it would have basically given the nomination to the Republicans. Whether right or wrong, something like this can be a deal-breaker for many people. The Rupublicans' attacks would have probably tied to him to Bill Clinton and all that good stuff.
- Thomas B
from NoiseRiver
Well, whatever way you look at it, the candidate has the power to delete the candidate. They all know, or should know, the the forum they're competing in.
- John Walker
@Brent Logan: Probably not, but the media frenzy alone would have destroyed his candidacy.
- Pete Brown
I don't get the claim that the differences between Obama and McCain are "immense." Ever looked at the spread of various European political parties? McCain and Obama aren't all that different from each other, but in America their differences are viewed as some huge political chasm. It's weird.
- David Worrell
immoral? yes, but it doesn't necessarily make him a bad leader.
- Bob Blunk
people in other nations never understand how Americans view taxes. McCain and Obama have very different tax policies and thus are immensely different candidates.
- Andrew
Would you refuse to buy a product from a company because the CEO screws around? Would you know anyway?
- Ian May
Andrew, that's crap - no one likes taxes. Ian: Many people in America probably would do just that, if corporations made a habit of running advertising campaigns the way politicians run political campaigns.
- David Worrell
@David Worrell - I only need to look at the US to see why I happily pay higher taxes.
- sebmos
He would have moved to the center to capture swing votes like Obama and diluted his base.
- Andy Wibbels
I am never happy about paying taxes, particularly as much of it is wasted in bureaucratic inefficiency. Governments never do anything as cost-effectively as private enterprise .
- Ian May
It wouldn't matter for democrats. Look at Obama. He could slaughter a lamb on stage and people would cheer him.
- Spencer
Dave's right on this one. Edwards had a clear shot at a cabinet position. His arrogance in thinking that he could hide the affair shows poor judgement and would have been great fodder for the Republican candidate.
- Jim McCusker
Yes, this would be nice. I depend on FriendFeed to pull all my content from around the Web into my feed. I only makes sense that Viddler should be supported by FriendFeed.
- Dennis Metzcher
I asked for this back in March when I signed up for the site. They said they were more focused on building out internal features at that point. Shortly afterward, they released Seesmic support. I think they were bluffing.
- Jared Mehle
Can't work with them when their method of getting me on the phone is to shut off my service, without any warning. I told them to close the account. I'm no longer a Comcast customer. I'm sure they'll send me another bill, adding insult to injury.
- Dave Winer
but dude, i have it on good authority that @comcastcares !!
- @baratunde
from twhirl
They have internal thresholds for this. Of course they don't TELL YOU what those are to avoid being shut off, but they do exist.
- Todd Dominey
I wonder what it is they care about so much.
- Dave Winer
It's just like the iPhone battery life. It lasts forever if you don't use it. Stop downloading large, um, media files, and Comcast will leave you alone. Didn't ya know that the Web is only for HTML files? :-)
- Robert Scoble
A more rational way to do it would be to have a set limit, and a status page you could monitor (even an RSS feed) and when you're getting close to your monthly limit, you could hold off a bit. Or in my case I could have switched over to AT&T since I had redundant service. Whatever. This is a company with DNA for soaking customers and keeping them at a distance. And if they let us in on the limits, they couldn't market their service as unlimited.
- Dave Winer
When are we gonna get an "open source" isp w/out the corporate buggery, I've already lost usenet because of some backdoor lawyering by an AC
- Toasterman
Toasterman, wait until our bills go up when they pass on the "contributions" that Cuomo is demanding for the "fund" to "combat child pornography." I'm depressed that I voted for his sorry famewhoring self.
- Cyndy
Anthony, I have plenty of bandwidth -- I had a backup connection with AT&T and if that fails, I have a new EVDO modem that's being delivered by FEDEX before 3PM today (knock wood).
- Dave Winer
Have you considered upgrading to a Comcast business account. I think you get a better modem (they said it has 'priority over other accounts' whatever that means) and a static IP. I also don't think it has the caps on it, but am not sure.
- Andrew Leyden
Rational is not business friendly. Marketing it as unlimited is the great equalizer and makes everybody pay the same fee. Giving people an actual limit and way to mesaure their current usage against that limit will make people ask for tiered (less-expensive) plans.
- Franci Penov
Could always spend the couple extra bucks and upgrade to Comcast Business. They don't mess with you then
- Jeremy D. Pavleck
Comcast is really cracking down on the high bandwidth users... glad that i'm not on Comcast!
- Les Zaldor
I'll ask hubby to do some insider research. He's a "low man on the totem pole" with Comcast, but issues like this always make me curious about his take on things. Of course, if we didn't have the employee discount and service was shut off without warning I'd switch in a heartbeat.
- Sally Robinson
I wouldn't bother with a Comcast business account, if they can't be bothered to communicate with the customer in a reasonable manner.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
dave is there a berkeley meraki network? take back the airwaves
- Edward Vielmetti
I seem to remember an article in the AP stating something about Time Warner and Comcast tiering their customers based on bandwidth usage and even throttling their high-end users. I'll dig around for it.
- Steven Perez
No, actually, it's easy for a compnay to be "personal", as in handling these things better and from a customer perspective. In this case, they could send email, or even a letter, and give you reasonable time to decide on which upgraded plan you want. With email it could even be a link to the right place on your website. Also, they can easily put in network policies that throttle heavy users during more loaded times on the network, even doing this dynamicallly. Lots of ways to do better.
- Darius Dunlap
Dave: How much daily bandwidth do you think you were using? I just let comacast back into my life (with much trepidation) because i was too far from the co to get decent dsl speeds.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
You can watch my progress as I develop at http://friendfeed.itafroma.com but my goal is to provide as many features as wanted. My first feature was a Friendfeed block: specify a name, it'll create a block with their feed info. My next feature is going to be like the Wordpress Friendfeed plugin: trackback from friendfeed to your Drupal site.
- Mark Trapp
I'm working on a d6 module, but there has been interest in backporting it to d5. Not much of what I'm doing is fundamentally d6, so it should be an easy endeavour
- Mark Trapp
I'm hoping to have a 0.1 module ready to go and on drupal contrib cvs today. After that, I think it'd be great if everyone who's interested in it starts to think about what they want to see in a friendfeed.module.
- Mark Trapp
Go Mark, go! I possibly can't help you a lot but I will do what I can to support you and your friendfeed.module
- ※Fu※
I guess one of the drupal developers beat me to claiming the project on drupal.org, but there doesn't seem to be any code: http://drupal.org/project...
- Mark Trapp
... now this sounds interesting. Drupal is no longer content management, apparently. Now it's 'Social Publishing' (according to Acquia).
- john conroy
I think the problem with Drupal in many respects is that there is no such thing as agile development, especially with its core product and many of the major contrib modules (like views, cck, ecommerce, etc.). Features are planned months and in some cases years in advance, making it hard to respond to trends.
- Mark Trapp
The one thing it has going for it is a rock-solid base framework, but it'd be nice to see rapid evolutionary changes to the system instead of these slow, yearly, revolutionary-backwards-incompatible changes it makes when moving from major version to major version.
- Mark Trapp
Hey Mark! If there's anything that you see missing from http://drupal.org/project..., I'd be glad to give you CVS access on the project.
- Rob Loach