so I tried tapestry, and click for every word is the apotheosis of the 'lets make a slideshow gallery for more pageviews' school of web design. yuck.
- Kevin Marks
But Robert - how many people want or need to do what you do?
- Brian Sullivan
I find the Quora iOS app is quite awesome..
- Kevin Costain
Roberts Sound clouds stuff is great. Loved the 4SQ interview
- Tony Stanislawski
Google has had global voice recogniton for a while
- Kevin Marks
will it recognize a Brooklyn accent ??
- studentforce
Peter Norvig's group serves up the best recognition algorithms
- clive boulton
You can't do it on the phone because the time to fix your spelling and punctuation errors is longer than typing it on a computer - people are LAZY.
- Kevin Costain
I'm already using studentforce as College.Touch on my iPad ... HTML5
- studentforce
I can type on android with Swiftkey about as fast as I can on a keyboard.
- Kevin Marks
the google stuff is good at my uk accent now (which apple hasn't been)
- Kevin Marks
When people have no other way to do it, they'll do it with a phone of course.. but if we have a more efficient way (a full keyboard), most won't do it.
- Kevin Costain
Using the Google Blogger iOS app, for example, is about the most painful way I can imagine writing a blog ;-/
- Kevin Costain
Looks like it, absolutely. I was just admiring your use of language.
- Bora Zivkovic
This calls for an open-source, federated, run-on-any-server alternative to FriendFeed that, like the Internets, cannot be owned (and disowned) by any single corporation.
- Gary Burge
Agreed. I'm pretty pissed about this deal, actually. And I don't trust anything the participants say about it. Why do I--a proud citizen of the open web--care if a walled garden gets better at search?
- Jay Rosen
Wave, rssCloud, Pubsubhubbub... this is the stuff to turn to eh?
- Dave Gilbert
I learned as much about the deal from this photograph as I did from the news coverage http://friendfeed.com/paul... Maybe I should Tweet that.
- Jay Rosen
Yes you should - I also thought that picture (both of them together, really) was the most informative piece all day
- Bora Zivkovic
From The New York Times: In German Suburb, Life Goes on Without Cars By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL A young development in Vauban illustrates a trend of planning communities to thrive without automobiles.... http://www.nytimes.com/2009... Get The New York Times on your iPhone for free by visiting http://nytimes.com/iphonei...
- Dave Gilbert
yeah, interesting. NYT usually isn't *totally* full of crap on this stuff :-D so i'm hoping there's something to this. starting to worry about Plastic Logic's big screen device, which looked so great at DEMO last fall, and originally due early 2009. it looks like that slipped to trials in late 2009 and "due in the market in early 2010." giving Amazon time enough to beat them to the punch, possibly.
- Karim
They need to put WiFi on this. And unlocked HSDPA. And a wacom style stylus touchscreen. Otherwise again, Amazon will miss the correct mark to start making revolutionary amounts of sales on this worldwide. I guess, perhaps Amazon is not interested in selling many Kindles?
- Charbax
Don't think this will save newspapers. Updates once a day? Monochrome? No good for Web browsing?
- Dave Gilbert
@Charbax, they can't do either. Amazon's not primarily in hardware development/ deployment business, but in the content distribution business, however one sees it. Subsequently, they can not extend the scope of Kindle's functionality if it means you'll be using it for something else than as wireless front-end to their ordering system (and perusal of so bought e-books).
- ianf ⌘
This bit was intriguing: "[...] If you're seriously able to handle yet another twist in this madness, WSJ also points out that "people familiar with the matter" have stated that Apple is "readying a device that may make it easier to read digital books and periodicals," but it's hard to say if this is simply regurgitation of unfounded rumors already going around or something entirely...
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- ianf ⌘
@Dave Gilbert: no, of course this won't do. No special-purpose device, not even such of tabloid proportions needed (at least) to peruse newspages, will save them in their current form. For a while it looked like there could be some hope for a cellphone-sub-like scenario, where some major global newspaper cabal underwrites, i.e. sponsors subscribers with cheap newspage-sized thin...
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- ianf ⌘
Why would I want a device that would allow me to read articles updated only once per day, and when I read those articles I'd have to switch to another device to jump into the realtime conversation about them?
- Dave Gilbert
I hope this comes and textbooks are replaced by it. I am sick and tired of paying for used books and buying new ones for three times the price. Not to mention, I wouldn't have to lug around bulky, heavy books again.
- Brandon Titus
Dave, you don't have to convince me, even had it updated constantly (which it might given the nature of e-media) and allowed a degree of freedom in web exploration. But this is the least of my [presumptive] worries - instead, if such a device comes out too early for the public to embrace it, and flops badly, it will effectively shut down research in this direction for half a decade.
- ianf ⌘
@ianf yes and consider that we are now communicating with a group of people realtime about an article published in the nation's flagship newspaper and linked-to in a blog. Wonder why NYTimes doesn't have a FF account? If you and I used a Kindle we'd have to read the article on that and then switch to another device to do this.
- Dave Gilbert
I wonder if, in Walter Ong's terms, FF and realtime in general are "secondary orality" or something we might call "secondary literacy"? Anyway, NYTimes et al., on Kindle updated once per day are old wine in new wineskins--primary (old-school print) literacy with new-media veneer.
- Dave Gilbert
I'm sure they do, have an account on all the biggest social media networks, but for monitoring them, not dissemination of content. That said, with the advances in LED pocket projectors, it isn't wholly inconceivable that a cell-sized pocket device projecting on any suitable surface could be the killer hardware for any OTA-newspage delivery in the near future. Jus' shooting the breeze, mind.
- ianf ⌘
Dave, Kindleized NYT wouldn't be updated once per day, constantly more like it, but at a price. I agree on new-media veneer though. The problem is the newspaper/ publishing industry is in serious flux, nobody has any solutions, and it will take some time until the next "monetizable" model solidifies and becomes the new given. It won't be bloodless, and it won't be pretty, but it will...
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- ianf ⌘
@ianf yes much like music biz with its own industrial vertical subsuming a widget-producing -distributing apparatus. BTW, NYTimes is on Kindle already and it updates once per day for thirteen dollars per month. And why wouldn't I just want to use my iPhone or imminent iTablet to read the free version? NYTimes app on my iPhone already caches NYTimes so I can read it on a plane. I do it...
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- Dave Gilbert
I hope it's NOT true. I don't own a Kindle, but the current (and 1st Gen) one look big enough as is.
- Thunderwing
from twhirl
The Kindle has been touted as a possible reader for eTextbooks. The only thing going for it is its portability. Pedagogically sound eTextbooks require color for visuals and the ability to embed interactive learning objects. The current Kindle is equipped for neither.
- Michael Ritter
the current market for eTextbooks seems to be horrible -- i just did a quick search for eTextbooks on "algorithms" (http://i41.tinypic.com/30bfnua...) and 3 out of the top 4 books were MORE EXPENSIVE as DRM'ed digital textbooks than they were as non-searchable dead trees. What The Frak? All Amazon has to do is price their eTextbooks a little lower than the print versions and the Kindle could pay for itself in the first year of school.
- Karim
and it's not just portability. it *really* makes a difference reading text on a portrait screen rather than one more suited to an aspect ratio for feature films.
- Karim
@Dave, observe that you can read NYT on the iPhone ("freely") only as long as there is NYT to be had on the net. It's not entirely inconceivable that the era of big newspapers is largely over, and that, e.g., NYT will survive mainly as Manhattan-local rag of record for the chattering classes that can afford its future $20/day? cover price. We're not in a chicken-vs-egg situation here...
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- ianf ⌘
no color, no deal. still fugly; i'll await Apple's mediapad.
- Anthony Citrano
This needs to be pointed out in that Engadget preview: "[...] select students are being issued the new, larger screen Kindles (in the fall semester with pre-installed textbooks for chemistry, computer science and a freshman seminar. Five other universities [...] are also said to be signed up for the trial" – which tells us that THIS IS A TRIAL, folks, limited production run of these,...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf, you said, "THIS IS A TRIAL, folks, limited production run of these, couple hundred units maybe, not any launch to the general public." Amazon just announced it will ship this summer. it follows you must be hyperventilating by now. ;-)
- Karim
Yes, I am, thank you, Karim, for pointing that out. Of course, "will ship" has been written on every headstone of vaporware dotcoms. I still maintain it is a trial, even if few containers' worth of these will end up in ordinary users' hands.
- ianf ⌘
[doffs hat] glad i could help. :-D so you're saying we should re-open this thread when it ships, then? ;-)
- Karim
I'm not saying anything of the sort. I stand by my earlier opinion of Amazon's Kindle-halfheartedness expressed a.o. here <http://tinyurl.com/kindlehalfh> but not solely there (earlier in that thread as well). Amazon's a global book pusher, why should they more than dabble in the dog-eat-shit hardware development business?
- ianf ⌘
was just kidding about re-opening the thread, ian. :-) non-core items (laptops, cloud computing, cat food) make up at least a third of their revenues, so clearly they have branched out from books. for all i know, Kindle hardware might be a loss leader for them. in 2001, people were probably asking why Apple ("global computer pusher") would be interested in selling little music appliances. ;-)
- Karim
NYTimes piece fails to mention debt scrapbooks owed to rhetoric - commonplace books; classical antecedents as well - the topoi. http://bit.ly/Og2Ap
- Dave Gilbert
from Bookmarklet
"“People coming from the U.S. to the Netherlands focus on that difference, and on that 52 percent,” said Constanze Woelfle, an American accountant based in the Netherlands whose clients are mostly American expats. “But consider that the Dutch rate includes social security, which in the U.S. is an additional 6.2 percent. Then in the U.S. you have state and local taxes, and much higher real estate taxes. If you were to add all those up, you would get close to the 52 percent.”"
- Dave Gilbert
from Bookmarklet