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(After reading coverage of the Friend Feed deal...) If value is being captured upstream from where you are, just buy the dam and dynamite it.
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nice turn of phrase
- Bora Zivkovic
That's what going down, is it not?
- Jay Rosen
Looks like it, absolutely. I was just admiring your use of language.
- Bora Zivkovic
This calls for an open-source, federated, run-on-any-server alternative to FriendFeed that, like the Internets, cannot be owned (and disowned) by any single corporation.
- Gary Burge
Agreed. I'm pretty pissed about this deal, actually. And I don't trust anything the participants say about it. Why do I--a proud citizen of the open web--care if a walled garden gets better at search?
- Jay Rosen
Wave, rssCloud, Pubsubhubbub... this is the stuff to turn to eh?
- Dave Gilbert
+1 PubSubHubbub (but I'm biased) http://pubsubhubbub.googlecode.com
- Brett Slatkin
I learned as much about the deal from this photograph as I did from the news coverage http://friendfeed.com/paul... Maybe I should Tweet that.
- Jay Rosen
Yes you should - I also thought that picture (both of them together, really) was the most informative piece all day
- Bora Zivkovic
Did you see the photos on Mashable of the empty FriendFeed offices this afternoon? http://mashable.com/2009...
- Josette Torres
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"Fame" flashmob at Nashville Farmers' Market
de anima (Jung), anime-style
'Dopamine and norepinephrin...“explorers"...seroton...“builders”...testosterone...“directors”...estrogen & oxytocin...“negotiators.”
Reading A Vindication of Love, by Cristina Nehring, a defense of love as described in Plato's Phaedrus & Symposium
Sony Pictures CEO says nothing good has come from Internet
Sony Pictures CEO: "I'm A Guy Who Doesn't See Anything Good Having Come From The Internet. Period."
- Dave Gilbert
NYTimes: In German Suburb, Life Goes on Without Cars
From The New York Times: In German Suburb, Life Goes on Without Cars By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL A young development in Vauban illustrates a trend of planning communities to thrive without automobiles.... http://www.nytimes.com/2009... Get The New York Times on your iPhone for free by visiting http://nytimes.com/iphonei...
- Dave Gilbert
Romantic & intricately detailed Naval artwork. - http://fanthefiremagazine.blogspot.com/2009...
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"naval artwork"
- Dave Gilbert
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NYT: Big-screen Kindle coming from Amazon this week - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
Mezağo Yediç, David Ziembicki, René Clausen Nielsen and 33 other people liked this
could be great for news paper crossover
- Ryan Gerritsen
Interesting. Thanks for sharing! I'd still really like to see full color and flashy page flip with touch screen!
- Matthew Ray
I just got my sci-fi on Kindle today - Tell No Lies But Keep Secrets - $3.19 - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
- Monique
This is actually starting to register on the DO WANT scale...
- matthew john ernisse
yeah, interesting. NYT usually isn't *totally* full of crap on this stuff :-D so i'm hoping there's something to this. starting to worry about Plastic Logic's big screen device, which looked so great at DEMO last fall, and originally due early 2009. it looks like that slipped to trials in late 2009 and "due in the market in early 2010." giving Amazon time enough to beat them to the punch, possibly.
- Karim
EEE!! I just decided to hold out for the mystery Apple Touch/Kindle crossover ...but ...maybe I will just get the Kindle after all!
- ursi
srsly?
- j1m
They need to put WiFi on this. And unlocked HSDPA. And a wacom style stylus touchscreen. Otherwise again, Amazon will miss the correct mark to start making revolutionary amounts of sales on this worldwide. I guess, perhaps Amazon is not interested in selling many Kindles?
- Charbax
Don't think this will save newspapers. Updates once a day? Monochrome? No good for Web browsing?
- Dave Gilbert
@Charbax, they can't do either. Amazon's not primarily in hardware development/ deployment business, but in the content distribution business, however one sees it. Subsequently, they can not extend the scope of Kindle's functionality if it means you'll be using it for something else than as wireless front-end to their ordering system (and perusal of so bought e-books).
- ianf ⌘
This bit was intriguing: "[...] If you're seriously able to handle yet another twist in this madness, WSJ also points out that "people familiar with the matter" have stated that Apple is "readying a device that may make it easier to read digital books and periodicals," but it's hard to say if this is simply regurgitation of unfounded rumors already going around or something entirely...
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- ianf ⌘
@Dave Gilbert: no, of course this won't do. No special-purpose device, not even such of tabloid proportions needed (at least) to peruse newspages, will save them in their current form. For a while it looked like there could be some hope for a cellphone-sub-like scenario, where some major global newspaper cabal underwrites, i.e. sponsors subscribers with cheap newspage-sized thin...
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- ianf ⌘
Why would I want a device that would allow me to read articles updated only once per day, and when I read those articles I'd have to switch to another device to jump into the realtime conversation about them?
- Dave Gilbert
I hope this comes and textbooks are replaced by it. I am sick and tired of paying for used books and buying new ones for three times the price. Not to mention, I wouldn't have to lug around bulky, heavy books again.
- Brandon Titus
Dave, you don't have to convince me, even had it updated constantly (which it might given the nature of e-media) and allowed a degree of freedom in web exploration. But this is the least of my [presumptive] worries - instead, if such a device comes out too early for the public to embrace it, and flops badly, it will effectively shut down research in this direction for half a decade.
- ianf ⌘
@ianf yes and consider that we are now communicating with a group of people realtime about an article published in the nation's flagship newspaper and linked-to in a blog. Wonder why NYTimes doesn't have a FF account? If you and I used a Kindle we'd have to read the article on that and then switch to another device to do this.
- Dave Gilbert
I wonder if, in Walter Ong's terms, FF and realtime in general are "secondary orality" or something we might call "secondary literacy"? Anyway, NYTimes et al., on Kindle updated once per day are old wine in new wineskins--primary (old-school print) literacy with new-media veneer.
- Dave Gilbert
I'm sure they do, have an account on all the biggest social media networks, but for monitoring them, not dissemination of content. That said, with the advances in LED pocket projectors, it isn't wholly inconceivable that a cell-sized pocket device projecting on any suitable surface could be the killer hardware for any OTA-newspage delivery in the near future. Jus' shooting the breeze, mind.
- ianf ⌘
Dave, Kindleized NYT wouldn't be updated once per day, constantly more like it, but at a price. I agree on new-media veneer though. The problem is the newspaper/ publishing industry is in serious flux, nobody has any solutions, and it will take some time until the next "monetizable" model solidifies and becomes the new given. It won't be bloodless, and it won't be pretty, but it will...
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- ianf ⌘
@ianf yes much like music biz with its own industrial vertical subsuming a widget-producing -distributing apparatus. BTW, NYTimes is on Kindle already and it updates once per day for thirteen dollars per month. And why wouldn't I just want to use my iPhone or imminent iTablet to read the free version? NYTimes app on my iPhone already caches NYTimes so I can read it on a plane. I do it...
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- Dave Gilbert
I hope it's NOT true. I don't own a Kindle, but the current (and 1st Gen) one look big enough as is.
- Thunderwing
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The Kindle has been touted as a possible reader for eTextbooks. The only thing going for it is its portability. Pedagogically sound eTextbooks require color for visuals and the ability to embed interactive learning objects. The current Kindle is equipped for neither.
- Michael Ritter
the current market for eTextbooks seems to be horrible -- i just did a quick search for eTextbooks on "algorithms" (http://i41.tinypic.com/30bfnua...) and 3 out of the top 4 books were MORE EXPENSIVE as DRM'ed digital textbooks than they were as non-searchable dead trees. What The Frak? All Amazon has to do is price their eTextbooks a little lower than the print versions and the Kindle could pay for itself in the first year of school.
- Karim
and it's not just portability. it *really* makes a difference reading text on a portrait screen rather than one more suited to an aspect ratio for feature films.
- Karim
@Dave, observe that you can read NYT on the iPhone ("freely") only as long as there is NYT to be had on the net. It's not entirely inconceivable that the era of big newspapers is largely over, and that, e.g., NYT will survive mainly as Manhattan-local rag of record for the chattering classes that can afford its future $20/day? cover price. We're not in a chicken-vs-egg situation here...
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- ianf ⌘
oh snap. pictures. http://www.engadget.com/2009... :-D
- Karim
no color, no deal. still fugly; i'll await Apple's mediapad.
- Anthony Citrano
This needs to be pointed out in that Engadget preview: "[...] select students are being issued the new, larger screen Kindles (in the fall semester with pre-installed textbooks for chemistry, computer science and a freshman seminar. Five other universities [...] are also said to be signed up for the trial" – which tells us that THIS IS A TRIAL, folks, limited production run of these,...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf, you said, "THIS IS A TRIAL, folks, limited production run of these, couple hundred units maybe, not any launch to the general public." Amazon just announced it will ship this summer. it follows you must be hyperventilating by now. ;-)
- Karim
Yes, I am, thank you, Karim, for pointing that out. Of course, "will ship" has been written on every headstone of vaporware dotcoms. I still maintain it is a trial, even if few containers' worth of these will end up in ordinary users' hands.
- ianf ⌘
[doffs hat] glad i could help. :-D so you're saying we should re-open this thread when it ships, then? ;-)
- Karim
I'm not saying anything of the sort. I stand by my earlier opinion of Amazon's Kindle-halfheartedness expressed a.o. here <http://tinyurl.com/kindlehalfh> but not solely there (earlier in that thread as well). Amazon's a global book pusher, why should they more than dabble in the dog-eat-shit hardware development business?
- ianf ⌘
was just kidding about re-opening the thread, ian. :-) non-core items (laptops, cloud computing, cat food) make up at least a third of their revenues, so clearly they have branched out from books. for all i know, Kindle hardware might be a loss leader for them. in 2001, people were probably asking why Apple ("global computer pusher") would be interested in selling little music appliances. ;-)
- Karim
The ‘Face Book Fad’ Is More Than a Century Old - Bits Blog - NYTimes.com - http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...
NYTimes piece fails to mention debt scrapbooks owed to rhetoric - commonplace books; classical antecedents as well - the topoi. http://bit.ly/Og2Ap
- Dave Gilbert
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Going Dutch - How I Learned to Love the European Welfare State. - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
"“People coming from the U.S. to the Netherlands focus on that difference, and on that 52 percent,” said Constanze Woelfle, an American accountant based in the Netherlands whose clients are mostly American expats. “But consider that the Dutch rate includes social security, which in the U.S. is an additional 6.2 percent. Then in the U.S. you have state and local taxes, and much higher real estate taxes. If you were to add all those up, you would get close to the 52 percent.”"
- Dave Gilbert
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The Father & the Sun: "Vatican to Build Europe’s Largest Solar Power Plant" - http://www.inhabitat.com/2009...
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"Vatican to Build Europe’s Largest Solar Power Plant"
- Dave Gilbert
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RT @docgotham: Just met Paul Volcker at Vandy Owen party with Em. Wow is he ever tall! / one trusts the conversation was stimulating (sic)..
LOL
- Dave Gilbert
Phill Niblock – Unmentionable Piece for Trombone and Sousaphone - http://www.last.fm/music...
Lovely piece of minimalist art music with two entrained marching band brass workhorses.
- Dave Gilbert
Had a great discussion with Dave Gilbert of Griffin on the value of metadat for my music industry class
Thanks Tim, it was a pleasure. Good questions from your students too.
- Dave Gilbert
Anyone recommend an external battery solution for a MacBook Air? What's the best solution?
I own the Macbook Air External Battery Charger from Quickertek. Expensive, but works great: http://www.quickertek.com/product...
- Dave Gilbert
Love the glass & concrete Carapicuiba house in Brazil by architects Angelo Bucci & Alvaro Puntoni. - http://www.archdaily.com/18679...
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"Glass"
- Dave Gilbert
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Acquired Characteristics May Be Inheritable - http://science.slashdot.org/article...
I've always suspected that Lamarck was right!
- Dave Gilbert
Designer Iris van Herpen: Fragile Futurity, Chemical Crows and Refinery Smoke - http://ifitshipitshere.blogspot.com/2009...
"Fragile Futurity, Chemical Crows and Refinery Smoke"
- Dave Gilbert
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Bacon explosion: where's the beef?
@docgotham yah, ... http://seesmic.com/
This is what you're looking for bro, http://www.instantrimshot.com/
- Dave Gilbert
Cisco's unfortunate airplane commercial during coverage of flight 1549 (Alana Semuels/L.A. Times Tech Blog) - http://www.techmeme.com/090116...
Advertising FAIL
- Dave Gilbert
Scientific Journal to Authors: Publish in Wikipedia or Perish - ReadWriteWeb - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
I applaud this move by "RNA Biology" and wonder what my friends in academia think about it.
- Dave Gilbert
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Interview: New NYT.com GM Denise Warren: Tip-toeing Into Aggregation With Guarded Optimism | paidContent.org - http://www.paidcontent.org/entry...
NYT ad head will also be NYTimes.com GM.
- Dave Gilbert
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Insanely Great - http://www.pbs.org/cringel...
Cringely says if Jobs ran GM he'd outsource production & do deal with McDonald's to put charging stations in drive-through lanes.
- Dave Gilbert
Gallery: Cosmic Motors From Another Galaxy - http://ffffound.com/image...
Pure teenage boy stuff; the teen inside the forty-something boy will also approve.
- Dave Gilbert
Metropolis : Kim Høltermand - Photography - http://holtermand.dk/archite...
Stunning collection of architectural photos.
- Dave Gilbert
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If you think the first photo is weird... click next - http://www.reddit.com/r...
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Creepy beyond words.
- dario
Is there any evidence of how well this crap works?
- Gabe
I actually thought the first photo was the creepiest. :-)
- Laurence Gonsalves
Weird^2
- j1m
strange
- Susan Beebe
Ummmm...I am a stranger in this strange land.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Look at the last picture. I think that's the best reflection of what this idea is all about. Not endorsing it, but I think the photos are a little misleading.
- Randy Holloway
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It gets better: http://www.hollywoodpurityball.com/ I particularly love that virgins, and "secondary virgins" alike who "come" (erm) "to the ball in prom wear", will -quote- receive a special Purity T-shirt which says "once you pop, you can’t stop". -unquote-
- dario
What sexist dolts. I noticed as a child that it's rare for anyone to try to get the boys to remain pure, too. Who do they think is deflowering the girls, or hasn't anyone had that talk with them, yet?
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
@dario, is it just me or does the little girl icon look like it's related to the pringles-can-guy ...
- mikepk
re: the Pringles can guy: oh, Mike, you're NASTY! (j/k). And the little guys floating around the Virgin? Classy. You ain't getting any, boys.
- dario
Well all righty then
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Re: "intolerance of other beliefs": I suppose one should also be tolerant of arranged marriages, perhaps with ritual deflowering of the eight years old bride, then. I'm not particularly fond of those, either. Cause they both have in common the fact that the girls are turned into a commodity and not a person. A walking hymen. Have these people reinstated the dowry? Sure, they're loving fathers (though in my eyes they're also scared as fuck of getting old), and it's all fun and games. Until you get fundies.
- dario
@gabe - most of the evidence points to abstinence education (without discussing alternatives) to be ineffective (I think I read something about it leading to more anal sex today...)
- Frederic
Jason, you aren't getting it at all. Why are they only trying to control the girls' sexuality? Why not have purity balls for the boys who are chasing the girls? I did a little searching, and with the exception of some mention of the Jonas brothers wearing purity rings, it still seems very much to be "boys will be boys" as it has always been. Will anyone ever realize that it takes two?
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Why are folks on FriendFeed so (generally) intolerant of men who want to keep their daughters pure? Is that so bad? Kind of shocking, the intolerance shown here today.
- Glen Campbell
What is bad is men who try to keep their daughters pure while giving their sons sly winks. THAT is what I can not and will not tolerate.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Where in those pictures is a father "giving [his] sons sly winks"?
- Glen Campbell
You should read above where I basically said my searches revealed next to nothing about purity campaigns for boys. People harp on the girls and put no pressure on the boys to keep it in their pants. That is what disgusts me.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
It's kind of weird in my opinion, but I do appreciate that the dads are so involved in the lives of their daughters and obviously care about them a lot. That's a lot more than a lot of girls have these days have.
- Rochelle
The point, has already been stated by dario and MiniMage: These treat females as property. This is nothing like for sons. The double-standard is what is being raised here. To have pre-pubescent girls signing a contract to "marry" their fathers until they find the right man to marry is disgusting. They could do something else besides dressing up in fancy clothes, with flowers and exchanging rings.
- Anika
Now I can't argue with that, Rochelle! I read long ago that studies showed that girls who didn't get affection from their fathers looked for it elsewhere, with disastrous results.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
For example, my husband and daughter bond over cooking and art. She's only 5, but he still gives her little life lessons without been creepy.
- Anika
Wow, we are quick to judge.
- Kamath (नमः)
um... Couldn't I just take her out to eat every now and then and just talk? I gotta go to a completely contrived "ball" too?
- Ha3rvey (Free hugs!)
@ha3rvey, you tickle me pink :). Do what you think is best! Just don't lock her up and let your son run wild, please?
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
There are guys who are ending up raising their children alone, so it's not quite that simple anymore. For the most part, yes, I would guess that the numbers of single mothers far outstrip the numbers of single fathers. However, we had one heated discussion months ago where fellas were mad about being not being able to opt out of financial parenthood after the act this group is trying to prevent, so it would seem to me that parents need to try to protect all of their offspring.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Jason, women can't get knocked up with the help of a penis. I think instill sexual responsibility in your son is of utmost importance.
- Anika
Do you think it would have been a bad memory if the boys had been there, dressed to the nines, pledging to remain pure as well and to respect the girls' desires to remain pure? Let's add the mothers, too.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
That someone was not me. I said I searched, and that is not a lie.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Seems a bit too electral? (Hmm, Electra doesn't adjective as well as Oedipus.)
- Rob H.
Here's the thing. My social life was dead before I made the decision to go away for college. Because I was a girl, I was kept within very strict boundaries, not allowed to visit my friends' houses, not even allowed to have a date before senior prom. Much younger brother had the run of the neighborhood. This illogical behavior existed elsewhere, as well. I see people making a big to-do about girls' purity, saying absolutely nothing about the boys (and when Google turns up nothing), more of the same!
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
I can buy the bit about the press ignoring the boys' ceremonies. That makes this a lot easier to swallow. You want to discourage promiscuity? I have no issue with that. You want fathers to love and support their daughters? I have no issue. I simply do not want girls being walled up while boys get to have all the fun (and I don't mean sex). We cannot ignore the fact that the double-standard is thousands of years old.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Why don't you try addressing my Google search, the one I keep mentioning? Maybe you can do a better search that will help me to realize that people are not placing special emphasis on making sure the girls only produce the right heirs for the right people?
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
You say "boys don't respond to the emotion of a dance like girls do.... The purity pledge that boys take is more business-like, since boys respond more to ideas of duty, responsibility and respect for women." I think you've now made it quite clear what your underlying assumptions about gender are. What other 19th-Century views do you hold?
- Dave Gilbert
If you want to call European blue-bloods rednecks, I won't stop you. I recall an article that debated whether or not Kate Middleton would meet the purity standards for being the wife of a crown prince. No one cared if the prince, himself, had abstained. Even in the US, people in some circles are still concerned with having proper "breeding." You've surely heard of the days when men had mistresses and women were expected to hate their marital duties. I could be wrong, but I suspect those attitudes persist.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
In the end, Jason, what I really needed to know was that today's parents weren't holding onto the 1950s-1960s views that "good girls don't," and that "boys will be boys." If the press is ignoring the dry, but serious ceremonies where boys pledge to be just as good as the girls, then my issue is with the press, not the parents. I have to say, though, that this girl would not have responded to a fancy-dress ball with anything but derision and annoyance :)
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
I think boys and girls are trained to respond differently, so I can't disagree with your saying that they do respond differently. However, I didn't run with my hands in the air like the other girls, I liked playing football (tackle as well as touch), took Taekwondo, shunned dolls and hated dresses and sandals. The frippery would not have been the way for me. Not a real issue for me; I know most girls like that stuff.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
I resisted the training, Jason. People all around me tried very hard to make a girly-girl out of me. I had to fight to be what I wanted to be, or at least to not be what I didn't want to be. I still encounter a little bit of pressure every now and then.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Jason, I do not have children, but I do have female friends and colleagues, some of whom have PhDs, MBAs, and upper management jobs. Some of them like to dance, some don't. Most prefer "business-like" rituals to princess balls. Most are motivated by duty and responsibility to others, even male others, including friends, associates, direct reports, and yes, even spouses. It's not...
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- Dave Gilbert
The chastity balls are disturbing for several reasons, some of which have been covered in this thread. For one, research shows that abstinence-only education is not effective. Presumably the girls who sign these chastity pledges are not being taught about safe sex. That is unfortunate as certainly some of them will go on to break those pledges, and will be more likely to do so in a reckless way.
- Dave Gilbert
What's the point of purity anyway? Is there some actual advantage to it?
- Gabe
Yeah, decreasing the spread of STDs and helping to decrease the amount of people having to raise children without the aid of a spouse, although I know of at least two couples who got married to have guilt-free sex, and those marriages are long over.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Okay, never let it be said I criticize without offering alternatives. I'd like to replace the Chastity Ball with a "Father-Daughter Suffragette Punk Party." Here's how it goes. Father & daughter will discuss sex, including safe sex. The daughter will place a, let's call it "Ring of Aspasia" on a podium in honor of the woman who helped Pericles invent democracy in ancient Athens. She...
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- Dave Gilbert
Considering how trivially easy it is to have sex without spreading STDs or pregnancy, and how common it is for parents to get divorced, the whole "purity" thing seems pointless. It's like not letting young girls cook so they don't spread food poisoning before their wedding night.
- Gabe
@Dave: Ack for punk and Patti Smith (I don't know a single song she does). However, if you're going to have the boys in a ceremony on the same night with their moms pledging that they will not try to control a woman and learning about safe sex, let's do it! @Gabe: I think trivially easy is not exactly correct. From what I've read, wrapping it up can still leave one vulnerable to the possibility of contracting some STDs.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
I can see how "no STDs" and "no unwed mothers" are good values, but "purity"? It makes no sense to me.
- Gabe
@Gabe: This may be what reminded me of the middle ages, when women could not have property and were in fact their father's property until they could be bartered to the right husband. You could not sully the merchandise with an unapproved member. You had to make sure that the new husband knew that the children who would inherit were actually his. Anything else meant defilement. Purity was not something anyone cared about or considered for the woman's husband; a woman's touch could not make him impure/flawed.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Pace Jason, If I thought that chastity balls were only ridiculous, I probably wouldn't have bothered to post. And ridiculous they are--the swords, rings, all the neo-chivalric paraphernalia, the rented tuxedos and garish prom dresses, the patriarchal obsession with the integrity of the hymen--everything here reeks of the reactionary values & middlebrow tastes of the exurban & suburban...
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- Dave Gilbert
Not sure if it's the same, but the Hollywood purity ball linked above didn't discriminate against those who had been unchaste. It's scary, though, that their pledge would have young women acknowledging that virginity is the most precious thing they could bring to a marriage. No, dear, it's not your intellect, your love, your honesty, your selflessness or your work ethic. [edit: or your upbeat personality] http://www.hollywoodpurityball.com/pledge...
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
MiniMage makes the most important criticism of the chastity ball milieu yet: "It's scary, though, that their pledge would have young women acknowledging that virginity is the most precious thing they could bring to a marriage. No, dear, it's not your intellect, your love, your honesty, your selflessness or your work ethic." Hard for me to see how Jason could claim that the conversation has gone too "far afeild" (sic) for him to pursue....
- Dave Gilbert
I think the tongue-in-cheek alternative ceremony suggestion drove him off. I can understand that, but I miss him. :)
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Summarizing the argument: (1) The chastity ball, as a ritual presumably associated with an abstinence-only education, contributes to the likelihood of unsafe sex. Jason's claim that "...sexual education doesn't mean that someone will practice safe sex..." misses the point. The data show that young people who are given safe-sex education (presumably chastity balls preclude safe-sex...
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- Dave Gilbert
>> noticias >> arquitectura :: arte :: diseño >>> - http://www.noticiasarquitectura.info/especia...
I love this house for so many reasons. But mostly for what's not there.
- Dave Gilbert
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GUCCI AND PIZZA HUT? - http://hauteconcept.com/2008...
Bizarre: Pizza Hut + Gucci.
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