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dodeja on So I just moved to the Lower Haight. What now? - http://www.reddit.com/r...
"Oh dude. Welcome to the area. I just moved here a month ago, love it here. I didn't know much about the area and I am pleasantly surprised. I moved here from Portland after living there for 5 years and feel like I fit right in. I live around the intersection of Fillmore and Waller. Still have plenty to discover but here are few places that I have checked out. - Three Twins Ice Cream (Lemon Cookie) - Naan n Chutney (Try the Wrap) - Ali Baba's cave (try the chicken shawarma) - Taqueria Castillito (cheap and amazing) - Cha Cha Cha thai is ok - Get the home brew at Le Cafe Du Soleil is my usual hangout spot during the day."
- Akshay Dodeja
dodeja on So I just moved to the Lower Haight. What now? - http://www.reddit.com/r...
"Oh dude. Welcome to the area. I just moved here a month ago, love it here. I didn't know much about the area and I am pleasantly surprised. I moved here from Portland after living there for 5 years and feel like I fit right in. I live around the intersection of Fillmore and Waller. Still have plenty to discover but here are few places that I have checked out. - Three Twins Ice Cream (Lemon Cookie) - Naan n Chutney (Try the Wrap) - Ali Baba's cave (try the chicken shawarma) - Taqueria Castillito (cheap and amazing) - Cha Cha Cha thai is ok - Get the home brew at Le Cafe Du Soleil is my usual hangout spot during the day."
- Akshay Dodeja
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"One word: Dust."
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"One word: Dust."
- Akshay Dodeja
I'll be speaking at StartupSchool tomorrow. (http://startupschool.org/speaker...) Any suggestions?
TheHenry, Tyson Key, Susan Beebe and 25 other people liked this
Will you ignore them like the past time? ;-)
- alieb
Probably.
- Paul Buchheit
Really liked your talk last year.
- Akshay Dodeja
Will it be streamed live?
- Cliff Gerrish
talk about Friend Feed!
- Jay
I think it would be interesting to hear how do your plan your product/feature roadmap. How did it change over the last 2 years for friendfeed when you were thinking about products and features.
- Akshay Dodeja
Oh, also tell them when stream splicing (subscribing to friendfeed feeds within friendfeed - people and search) will be launched.
- Cliff Gerrish
Might be interesting to discuss how to distinguish "a feature" vs "complete product" in context of startup development strategy. Is a bright idea going to become a killer app? Or would even just an incremental improvement to current state of the art be a plausible basis for business plan appropriate for a startup?
- Dan Freeman
Dont get discouraged by VCs
- Khuram Hussain
I suggest a talk on the rich and glorious future of the service FriendFeed on the World Wide Web.
- Thomas Hawk
You shall tell them that FF will be the freaky geeky cousin of FB for along long time
- Robert Higgins
Actually I don't care what you speak on, I just can't wait to hear it!
- Jay
Assuming that acquisition talks had been happening for a long time...how did you decide when was the right time to be acquired (and that Facebook was the right fit)? If the tables were turned (FF was FB's size and FB was FF's size) how would you handle the acquisition of Facebook? How is your role different at Facebook as compared to Friendfeed?
- Adam Kazwell
Talk about your vision of the Web to come (1-5 years) -- I can't care less about PR people, social media expert, guru or whatever talking about that but would be really interesting to hear you on this matter, and I guess it is the same for other people and startuppers
- alieb
PR lessons from the FriendFeed acquisition.
- Bruce Lewis
Painting your keyboard black?
- Eric Borisch
Key lessons learned from FriendFeed ? What made you to sell Friendfeed to facebook?
- Rama Vadakattu
The Startup School is live now at http://www.justin.tv/startup...
- Robert Scoble
Geez, the quality of the stream out of justin.tv is unwatchable.
- Cliff Gerrish
ya audio is really BAD!
- Roshan Ramachandran
Talk about how fun PR is during / after exit LOL :D
- Susan Beebe
BTW, the new FB feed is simply awesome!!
- Susan Beebe
The world's biggest Posterous evangelist is coming over for lunch. Will today be the day?
Paul Greer, K.D., travispuk and 24 other people liked this
The day for what?
- Jason Hansen
Awesome now this should be interesting!
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
Sorry... lack of theming(/branding) and Disqus support are pretty much a non-starter
- Ken Sheppardson
I just started using Posterous myself... http://iphone.theglitch.ws. It's my iPhone Photo Stream.
- Jason Hansen
Who?
- Thomas Lopez Jr
Thomas: guess.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
What's with this Scoble background, FriendFeed is going myspace? -)
- Colin
Matt: bing!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Colin: You can turn off other people's themes.
- Jason Hansen
Jason: getting into Posterous.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert: You have an iPhone... why not start off using it like myself?
- Jason Hansen
Colin: funny, this is a feature Twitter has had for years.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
It would be great to see themes :)
- TechTalkToday
the ease with which you can post from mobile to Posterous is insane
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
Also, the PicPosterous app for the iPhone is pretty slick.
- Jason Hansen
Robert: Yeah I know, you need to go pay a "social media consultant" to make a more attractive single band for the left or something :)
- Colin
He's bringing cookies?
- Rod Trent
I'd switch over to Posterous in a second if I could just get rid of their logo in the header of my site there, tweak the CSS a bit, and use a third party comment system.
- Ken Sheppardson
Will today be the day Robert discovers Weblogging? Enquiring minds want to know. But seriously, it's just another weblogging system, with a different tagline. You can post to your weblog via e-mail from all kinds of different systems. What makes Posterious different? Does it offer something the others don't? You're also very limited by them, at last check, you can't post to your own...
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- Rob Fahrni
Matt: POS. Plain Old Safari.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Will today be the day that Scoble becomes the Posterous prophet? At one time it was / is Friendfeed, but maybe Scoble is ready for a new product to promote.
- Ben Hanten
@Kahlil, that's good, didn't know that. Thanks for the correction, that's a very good thing. How about customizing the look, so you can't tell it's a Posterious weblog? Also, can I post to it from my favorite desktop weblog client, MarsEdit?
- Rob Fahrni
Posterous is so flexible and how they handle media files is just killer. It can be simple or more complex depending on your needs. Love it.
- Gus
I've been playing with Posterous a bit lately since they released the iPhone app. It's limited but will explore further.
- Kenley Neufeld
Posterous FAQ, http://posterous.com/faq
- Rob Fahrni
@Kahlil, is it safe to say Posterous is limited to posting via e-mail? That's what it looks like via the FAQ. That's why people are raving about it. It's VERY easy to post to your weblog from any e-mail service/client. That's nice. So what besides that makes it better than Blogger, WordPress, or many of the other established leading weblog publishing systems? That's the question that...
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- Rob Fahrni
Tony: I can't do everything! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
re: "The world's biggest Posterous evangelist is coming over for lunch" - You're having lunch with @lewmoorman? (Just kidding, Lew!)
- Robert J Taylor
Posterous is amazing. I don't need an app like Marsedit anymore. I just use Gmail to compose my posts.
- Alex Knight
love posterous. just miss some custom design features and analytics
- Ouriel Ohayon
PicPosterous lets you share video that's longer than the email limit. That's handy.
- Tom Landini
Posterous for a private site is where it really shines. I have both, public and private, and the private one is amazing. Try it.
- Dominic Jones
Ended up ditching my personal WP site for posterous & loving it. @Rob the ease of posting and tweaking how things are disbursed is incredible. You can pick and choose per post which other sites you would like updated. The multiple photo upload is sweetomatic and they embed just about anything in a snap. I'm a fan and I thought I would live and die by WP.
- suecosby
Right now, Posterous = email in + tumblr-like blog + ping.fm-like out (duplicated content I actually find annoying). With more ways to automatically import, better support for discussions, and truly custom themes that I could host on my own subdomain (with my own HTML/CSS/JavaScript), it would have a lot of potential.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Posterous is fantastic, Tumblr too but one is mad to give up a self hosted blog in place those services. Respectively of course Steve Rubel.
- Benjamin Taylor
I've found that views on my Posterous posts have dropped like a ton of bricks. At first (a few weeks ago) I was getting 400-600 views per post. Last week it was more like 100 per post, now I'm hardly going over 10. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Kahlil, I have a few here: http://posterous.com/people..., latest posts have about 30-40 so a little pick up.
- Kol Tregaskes
No, not analysed the traffic.
- Kol Tregaskes
We are actually crowd-sourcing our blog on Mugasha. Mugasha Aux is hosted on Posterous with custom theme (still in private beta). The cool thing about this blog is that the community and the Artists can post content on the blog. Artists can promote their music and events and fans can post stores about events or other music related things. We are terrible bloggers here at Mugasha so we decided why not ask the community to help us out. Posterous is setup really well to hand this. http://aux.mugasha.com/
- Akshay Dodeja
So you can created themes for Posterous?
- Kol Tregaskes
Cool!
- Kol Tregaskes
Posterous is great - I use it all the time for feeding FF and facebook with pictures - the iPhone "picture album" app is a winner too - can't find anything wrong with posterous myself - I love it
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
That's definitely cool... but if they're still going to have that white block in the header with the Posterous logo that http://aux.mugasha.com has, looks like Tumblr will still have them beat in that area.
- Ken Sheppardson
@Ken Actually we decided to leave The Posterous bar on top to give them credit :) You can totally style that in any way you want.
- Akshay Dodeja
Nice, Akshay. Good to hear. Looking forward to seeing them go live with customization.
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert: was today the day?
- Ken Power
Ken, Akshay, Kahlil -- we've got a revision to that top bar coming. You can expect as good an experience with Posterous as with Tumblr for full customization. Better, if we do it right. Thanks for all your support.
- Garry Tan
I started on posterous thanks to being talked into it (http://pingmicro.com/postero...). Hilariously, so far I don't see it as a challenger to tumblr at all. For me Tumblr is about fragments, scrapbooking, and its "genre" posting styles help with this. Posterous for me is an engine to conventionally blog (as opposed to microblog) to multiple sites, and...
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- Paul Greer
"I even remember what it was like before Robert Scoble got here!"
Tyson Key, Penguin, Jeff (Team マクダジ ) and 105 other people liked this
i do actually recall what it was like before he got here
- MG Siegler
lol lol
- Chris Saad
I recall what it was like when he declined to be here. :)
- Louis Gray
Who is Robert Scoble? Is he Alex's brother or something?
- Jim Norris
What was it like?
- Christian Collins
quieter
- MG Siegler
a moment of win?
- Trish Haley
I try to beat Scoble onto networks I think might blow up so I can experience that quiet. :P
- Shawn Farner
I remember FriendFeed when Mona was Scoble!
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
from iPhone
++Zulema
- Bruce Lewis
Hell, I even remember what it was like before I got here.
- Kelly Norton
who?
- Ivan Kirigin
I remember what it was like before Ivan Kirigin actively participated here. Good to see you commenting. :-)
- Bruce Lewis
I remember too!! Haha!!! :D
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Hehe MG.
- JCunwired
It was, in fact, even nicer back then. Back when Paul was Leo LaPorte
- j1m
Mona was Scoble??? Really trying to imagine that...
- George Hall (Australia)
I thought it was Guy Kawasaki that started the downfall of Friendfeed? :)
- Ray Cromwell
I am always going to have a place for FF. Just like I will have for gmail. Paul you might have something to do with this.
- Akshay Dodeja
beta invites, it seems so distant...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I remember when FriendFeed was available only through VT100 terminals.
- Jemm
I even remember what it was like before Alex Scoble got here. But I never knew a time without Louis Gray. And, before Paul? Well, there was Twitter. I remember that time well. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Mark: rrrriiiiiggggghhhhttttt. Write your own, I guess is the option.
- Robert Scoble
Mona was a much more attractive Scoble. "Queen of FriendFeed" as I recall.
- DGentry
Mark: @god owns those. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I have this site bookmarked as ScobleFeed
- Travis Smith
Who?
- Will Higgins™
I too was here long before Scoble but thankfully I've gotten to know him much better after his arrival. Death to Scoble...Long live Scoble.
- Mark Krynsky
There was a "before Robert Scoble got here"?
- Morton Fox
BRS (Before Robert Scoble) will be a new measurement of time.
- Jemm
I think BS (Before Scoble) would be better. ;) Just kidding Robert
- Keith - @tsudo
I'm pretty sure Scoble was here when I got here, but I followed Louise Gray here and Scoble was quiet back then. His Twitter followers weren't following him en masse to FF like they apparently do now.
- Rah-PM 2012
I don't remember but I love that quote anyway. That needs to show up in my feed again.
- Martha
Oh now we're starting to insult Robert now? Shame. :(
- Mol, FF Music Lover
Molly... how is it insulting him.. he is in this thread joking along with it... not sure he feels insulted, maybe he would say so if he was..
- Rob Sellen :o)
Molly: if you think this is insulting you should read some of the people over on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I remember FriendFeed on a 28.8k modem. I'm totally being serious. This whole real-time thing would have sucked. Oh, and yes, I remember FriendFeed before Robert. ;-)
- Zach Flauaus
I think life is better if you choose to trust people a little more. Something about reality being a mirror.
Ying, אלף, Howard Ross and 144 other people liked this
I'm sure this seems naive to many.
- Paul Buchheit
i'm naive by nature, but always honest, :)
- chaz2b
I wish this was true in our country. Relative to other cultures, we have much to learn.
- Akshay Dodeja
people can be trusted, groups less and organizations never (sorry, I should also add "by me as a general rule")
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Are you saying... to chill out?
- Josh Haley
Too many people complaining, I guess. Indeed, trust is something rare in the cynical times we live in.
- Jordi Soler
I believe people who are questioning will trust more when they get more clarity. In the absence of answers, speculation fills the gap.
- Louis Gray
hey man I trust loads more people online than off and I certainly trust the FFolk. These guys are no fools to build what they built and sell what they sold.
- Thomas Power
Unfortunately clarity takes time. Life is inherently unpredictable.
- Paul Buchheit
PB I am happy to wait take your time and yes I trust you all the whole team.
- Thomas Power
It's precisely because I viewed FF as a collection of people that I invested trust with them - so yes I'm waiting for the clarity that I trust will come and hope your allowed to share it by the new boss.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I couldn't agree with you more Paul. (congrats BTW) I just hope bigger companies also realize the same thing, we will treat them the same way they treat us. With FF I think we all felt like part of the team, communication was open and two-way..it brought the passion out of all of us.
- Chris Myles
I ain't no naysayer I am a true FFsupporter. Go PB Bear x
- Thomas Power
i don't think ppl always like what they see...perhaps why they choice to treat others badly : reflecting their own ugly.
- :}(o|O){:
Oh, I could tell you stories about how I trusted people and was let down, betrayed, and backstabbed. Cynicism is not without precedent.
- Morton Fox
I don't think it's naive, you definitely live better when you are not constantly thinking if people are trying to scam you.
- Amit Morson
It's not good to call a bluff on people/anything before you understand the situation. On trusting people a little more....that's fine. However, it's a very thin line because people are different and unique in many aspects.We can do much more if we remove the slyness that have destroyed capitalism.
- StreamAfrica
BTW, I like the little "Add comment" thingy. Good going.
- Amit Morson
If I went with optimism, I would prefer cautious optimism over blind optimism.
- Morton Fox
culturally it seems cynicism is a means for people to cope with irony
- :}(o|O){:
I trust the FF team. As I said before I doubt they'll let FB take over and do messy things. They worked too hard to let them do that.
- Mol, FF Music Lover
I always give people a bit of trust, and it works out. There have been very few people that have lost the trust I gave them. I expect the best from everyone, and most return the favor. As for thinks like FF, well I don't have a lot of experience and I'm not super attached to the current workings, so I'm just waiting patiently to see what happens. I didn't join for the system, I joined for the people and the content. ^_^
- <3Heather<3
ana, that is why trust is required :)
- Paul Buchheit
I love FF. You guys have done a great job, and I have no doubt you will continue to do so. Some may have acted more on emotions than needed. However, when you end up being too trustworthy for too long, you tend to get burned. It's cheesy, it's a cliche, but it happens. I know I'm not one of the big ones here, but earlier today, in my completely zombified state, I decided to just roll...
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- Matthew Horton
I don't like how some people are thinking you "sold out" because you were bought by FB, because you needed the money and if you didn't get it what would happen? I think people are pissed off mainly because FB was the service that bought it. What if Myspace or Micorsoft bought FF? I bet there would be more people (including myself) who would totally lose trust in you guys.
- Mol, FF Music Lover
Christopher - I think Paul should start writing even more cryptic posts to /really/ mess with people.
- Andrew C (✓)
Christopher, you're reading too much into this (as are most people here). I really do mean it as a general point about life. The truth is that I don't know exactly what the future holds, and neither does anyone else.
- Paul Buchheit
I have been through a few recent experiences where my apprehensions and concerns about the honesty and the intent of people have been proven wrong. I guess some of us need to go through this phase of realization before we can start trusting people a bit easier than before.
- Jassim
I guess I'm in what some people might think of "denial". I want to think positively instead of being cynical. Being cynical to me is negative and doesn't solve a damn thing. Being positive about anything this day and age is a bad thing, I guess. People view positive feelings as being "in denial" which IMHO is a bunch of bullcrap.
- Mol, FF Music Lover
Depressing country music comes to mind... the dog ran away and the truck died, sad tune... *Sigh*
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Christopher, I think that is the main point. It was interesting to see Matt Cutts post his congrats via a FF post, but also mention that he hopes the FF team brings some openness to the FB. That is part of the trust thing. Even Microsoft is more trustworthy than FB right now and everyone knows that a team of talented devs getting swallowed up by an untrustworthy corp typically makes no difference to the corp's culture.
- travispuk
I hate Facebook
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Software is scalable to huge customer bases.. Customer support, feedback, and expectations don't scale as easily!!
- Chris Myles
I had to admit, even though I like FB a lot, they have done some things I'm not happy with. I'm hoping they don't mess with FF too much or I won't go there anymore.
- Mol, FF Music Lover
@Paul, I will stretch my trust a bit further to see how this washes out for the FF team, but in my view trust is always based on the actions and the way this has been handled, given that you are well aware of your rabid fan base, is not good for maintaining trust. I would have actually preferred that FF be bought my Microsoft (I know MS haters, perish the thought), but at the moment I...
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- travispuk
Totally agree Christopher. The FF crowd are such a small bag that they do not care. The reason why I would prefer MS is that they would care because they are clawing marketshare with any means, each little grab of users for them means a lot more then it does to FB, who as we all know don't even care about their existing 250-300mill.
- travispuk
Travis: You do know that MS is FB's single largest investor by far, right? For all practical purposes, MS bought FF as much as FB did
- LANjackal
LANjackal, yeah, but I am not sure about single largest? Particularly since the valuation that they bought in at was a lot higher than the current valuation from the recent buy in, so I think their shareholding is a tiny bit smaller now. There is still competition between the two for users, as there is from Google and twitter etc.
- travispuk
Hmm, I don't like mirrors...
- Mo Kargas
Lanjackal, I told like you to one of my friends feed yesterday, you are right!
- muratt
Travis: FB isn't publicly traded, and MS has given them more funding than anyone else, period. No one else has come close to the $240M MS poured into FB
- LANjackal
muratt: Thanks, appreciated
- LANjackal
Travis: You don't think the Bing search results integrated with FB search results are accidental, do you? That said, I'm not one of those people who believes everything MS is bad. So far they've done well allowing FB to grow as they have. I've been with FB since 2004 so I have more faith in them than the average person. I'm giving them time to see how this all shakes out, and putting a lil trust in the FF devs too
- LANjackal
LANjackal, absolutely not, I know that was part of the investment and obviously worth a shed load more than the original 240M. I did think though that they had just received 200M from a russian company and have received other similar size investments from other companies. Don't get me wrong, I am not a total FB hater, if they do right by FF then I will absolutely stick around. What I...
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- travispuk
This is a smart approach. Trust...but verify. As much as many of us chuckled at Reagan in the 80s (OK, as much as some of us old guys chuckled) that's not a bad philosophy; it's what we do in day-to-day life, anyway. If we didn't implicitly trust most of the people we interacted with daily life would be chaos. Oh, and "naive" is the way we act on a daily basis.
- Tom Guarriello
Oh, and one more thing. I think the difference between the public reaction to FB buying FF and Amazon buying Zappos is fascinating.
- Tom Guarriello
I have actually more trust in FB than I have in Amazon - FB has not yet had the kind of anti competitive practices that Amazon has had in the last few years. If it had an easier way to ignore most apps, and reined their lawyers when revising T&Cs, FB would be positively peachy :)
- Iphigenie
Reality is a mirror. We will manifest in life what we continue to see and be. If we find that we continually cannot or do not trust people, it is often because we ourselves are not trustworthy. Give situations time to sort out before you automatically assume that the worst will come about.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Paul, I take your point. This is how I've gone through my entire life, with varying degrees of success. But I should tell you because of this I've been burned many, many times and have the emotional scars to prove it. It is not a statement to be made lightly (not that I think this is what you were doing).
- Vicarbott
I think most people would like to trust but most people have been disappointed before so when one cares about something or someone might tend to create negative mental scenarios as a mechanism to protect oneself from another disappointment and not to appear a fool once again.
- M F
Cautious optimism is how I proceed. However, I've been involved in and project managed through many acquisitions, and usually the acquiree gets fed a bunch of bs about how they'll be able to control their destiny and keep their baby running. But I don't think I've ever seen that actually happen. I hope it might, in this case, but I feel like so much cannon fodder at this point.
- Rick Cogley
@rick - touche
- Monique
@PaulToo / Paul Buchheit you say "Unfortunately clarity takes time." This is really where I think many people take issue, why did you sell the company without getting a more firm road-map for how things were going to go (which you could have then announced)? Unless you basically said: "OK, just give us the money and we'll let things sort themselves out later." Which is of course your...
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- Alex Schleber
Are people forgetting that Paul sunk millions of his own money into FF? Unless FF was a 503c Foundation, he can't be faulted for seeking to recoup that, and with big players copying FF features every day, there was a risk to FF's future. I'm somewhat saddened by what happened, but happy for Paul, but either way, FF introduced a bunch of concepts that will now be copied by other...
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- Ray Cromwell
I like the sentiment to stay open and trusting. Life is too short to do otherwise. And since there is a lot of talk about the facebook deal on this thread guess I'll throw in my 2c there too -- which is, congratulations on another successful venture Paul. Very impressive and facebook will be better as a result. If FF gets lost in the shuffle that just means someone has to go out there and start another venture ;)
- Thomas Mader
@cromwellian, that's why I used the words "which is of course your prerogative"..business is business, fine. I congratulate the FF team on their business win. But then don't mix categories and try to bring social issues like "trust" back in through the backdoor. After Beacon et al. FB PR disasters, do you trust Zuckerberg/FB with a darn thing? You yourself seem to think similarly by saying you're "kinda resigned that it's long term fate is not in the cards." My point exactly..
- Alex Schleber
@Guruvan BTW I disagree with you that this has anything to with LOA/Projection type stuff..the point is we all trusted FB in the beginning..a long time ago. Did we attract their multiple mis-behaviors into our shared reality somehow?!?
- Alex Schleber
More accurately, life is better when people are trustworthy.
- Tanath
Alex: I have spent about 10 hours of my life with Mark Zuckerberg. I think he is a lot more trustworthy than most business leaders I have met.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Scobleizer, which isn't saying that much, would you agree? :) It is after all the same Mark Zuckerberg that handed out business cards reading "I'm CEO, Bitch" not all that long ago..
- Alex Schleber
How does facebook reconcile talking about openness but trying to prevent other services from gaining traction by blocking the flow of information out of facebook that would enable smaller networks to compete? It looks like facebook is trying to become the entire web experience for users.
- Ru Viljoen
I've been through too many mergers and acquisitions to trust anything the buying corporation says.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
yeah u need to trust now because you gave away control. i think it was a silly move. i still think that friendfeed could have turned the tide by itself,...with proper profiles and people search. now all you can do is hoping you didn't got fooled
- Chris Hofmann
Schleber: damn, I didn't get one of those cards from him and had to drag him into a Time Magazine party. He didn't want to go because he didn't have an invite. I think that's the last time that I'll have an invite to something he doesn't have. But, seriously, I love how we blow out of proportion people like him.
- Robert Scoble
Alex Scoble: I assume the worst and when the best happens, I'm surprised. That said, Zuckerberg and Facebook has never stabbed me in the back or been jerks the way some other companies have been.
- Robert Scoble
If facebook succeeds it will lead to a period where innovation stagnates, and finally the largest task for facebook is to wrest power from google, and I personally do not want that to happen.
- Ru Viljoen
Ru: if you think Facebook is stagnating, I think you are smoking some good dope. Remember, FriendFeed couldn't take off because Facebook was too fast a follower. Many of my favorite friends from across the industry are now working there. Don't underestimate this company.
- Robert Scoble
Plus they stole Google's sushi chef and he's freaking awesome.
- Robert Scoble
Any company in Silicon Valley who is powered by sushi is unstoppable. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I don't think that, I think facebook is brilliant and incredibly innovative, I mean it will go that way if they become too dominant in the comprehensive web experiance.
- Ru Viljoen
Ru: Facebook is the next Google.
- Robert Scoble
I have never heard of any company continuing to drive innovation as google has after acquiring a monopolistic majority, that is why I do not want it to be replaced.
- Ru Viljoen
Facebook never stabbed you in the back? :) http://scobleizer.com/2008...
- Louis Gray
I was thinking about that Louis.
- Alejandro
I think he is right, social search is better than legions of anonymous results. Facebook leads social so when they master search they will undermine google.
- Ru Viljoen
yeah but the content that is dragged into FB is still much more limited to what google can crawl.
- Chris Hofmann
Search results relative to people you know. So far facebook has focused on features and usability to grow its userbase, but it looks really obvious that they will then try to use that social network to create a search engine that uses your acquaintances to serve you recommendations or search results and people will love that.
- Ru Viljoen
Wait, what?
- Derrick
thats what friendfeed has been doing already
- Chris Hofmann
i think that is the point of getting the friendfeed guys in the firstplace
- Chris Hofmann
Actually Paul, there is a famous wise American Caver named Donald Davis. Cavers find cave. Caves are a kind of form of Shrodingers Cat, we never know where more cave is until we find it. Davis postulated in the 60's that the cavers create the cave in their minds.
- Robert Higgins
It might be a hell of a lot of work but still that is where they will go. Bear in mind they have just released facebook lite and their explanation of it being for low brandwidth areas and mobiles smells like BS, but that is too speculative, fact is they can create that infrastructure with enough money, talent and users.
- Ru Viljoen
Well until it is done who knows how much behaviour will be shaken up, but they can be quite radical and people will not leave because how do you communicate with school friends and grandma if you leave?
- Ru Viljoen
Paul we trust you not to stab Friendfeed in the back, but to infiltrate and take over Facebook
- Robert Higgins
hahaha well I hope facebook remains a secure place to chat to our real friends and some form of friendfeed lives on and grows for our edgy web friends. Sleepytime 01:49 here
- Ru Viljoen
I imagine you and the rest of the FF gang are stinging a bit (perhaps you didn't expect the backlash to be as... well, passionate as it was?) but, in my experience, trust is something that has to be earned and it's usually something I only give to people I know personally. Generous trust has almost always repaid me negatively so I'm loathe to just hand it out. I'm a cynical, old, cranky...
more...
- Akiva
I have a long held belief that trust is something meant to be earned, not something you are entitled to from the start, and once shattered it is difficult, but not impossible, to regain. And Trust travels with a companion called Respect. They are 2 sides of the same coin.
- April
Wow Akiva!! 'monster off the leash'. I feel your hurt emotions, really deep!
- Myrna
Eh, I've entered into the acceptance stage. Things are as they are.
- Akiva
My response was you are worth way more than 50M!
- E-Advocate Network
WAYYYYY MORE (than 50M)!!
- Chris Myles
life is better when you trust in others.
- amelia arapoff
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That's nice. Just random, or in response to something. :)
- τorƍue
Does that mean you got a little sleep?
- Anne Bouey
Good news? People like Paul don't usually get in the office so early especially after a lack of sleep, on a Monday morning, if there wasn't a great reason.
- Louis Gray
this could be big.
- vijay
Aww Man, see now I am not going to get any sleep tonight! DAMN YOU PAUL and your teasing little smiley face. OK, must go and get some coffee!
- travispuk
O.k., I'll smile too :) (and open my ears and eyes)
- Martha
10 bucks says that they add emoticons soon. :)
- Joe Beda
This emoticon makes a little more sense now...
- Stephen Foskett
Guessing this was about the Facebook announcement?
- Ben Hedrington
Cheshire cat?
- Hutch Carpenter
Good for you, Paul. I can't help but feel a little let down, though.
- Matthew Gifford
well done!
- michael sean wright
Congrats! Let us (well, our chef) cook you lunch before you're no longer walking distance! :)
- Don MacAskill
I have the same feeling as Matthew Gifford... Congrats to you, Paul, but I'm not sure this bodes well for the rest of us.
- Lindsay
Congrats, Paul. :-)
- Jordan Hofker
Congratulations!
- Ethan Herdrick
Congratulations to the whole team, Paul!
- Ryan Kuder
yeah they signed away the community :(-
- Peter Dawson
Congrats Paul if they're truely in order :)
- Jason Cronkhite
from iPhone
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- andy brudtkuhl
congrats to the team, but to be honest i'm not liking it at all
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Good news or bad news? :)
- Arda Çetin
Congrats Paul! I was really hoping this would happen. Friendfeed and Facebook need each other. Cheers!
- Akshay Dodeja
Now I get it. Congrats on the $$.
- Yolanda
Now I know...and knowing is half the battle
- Bwana ☠
:(
- TiTi
Congratulations!!!! A 'worthy' smiley ... ;-)
- Bo Stern
I think Paul's emoticon was charming and that Louis Gray is either super discerning or super informed.
- Michael Muller
Congrats to the FF team you guys are awesome (keep this place awesome)
- Ryan
WHAT'VE YOU DONE!!!! THAT'S TOTALLY SH*T!
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
congratulations, may your road ahead be smooth...
- Nathan Chase
That can imho only mean good things for the FB UI ...
- Bo Stern
Congratulations, definitely.
- DGentry
congrats!
- Peter Warnock
Congrats to you and the entire FF team. I hope you guys are in it for the long haul.
- Mike Doeff
hey congrats to the FF team! I look forward to seeing what the future holds
- (jeff)isageek
Congratulations Paul & FF team!
- Charles Ying
congrats dude
- Jason Pollock
:(
- Alex Scrivener
Congratulations.
- Antoniu
congratulations.. but liked the whole UI & funtionality of ff than fb!! it'll b gone!!
- Gtp19
You're totally ::stpd::
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
its business after all, sell it but get back to make a better product for your old users. dont 4get the users !!
- Peter Dawson
:(
- acedanger
the results of good work
- Juan Pablo Ruiz
congratulations!
- Hareesh Nagarajan
Congrats!
- DS
GZ!
- Sarp
:) we will learn from the process
- abdellah
Paul, will you respond to this? This is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but distracted by Facebook and with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone. Middle of the road: Facebook forces its ads into the timeline and friendfeed starts acting like Facebook by ignoring its users.
- tollie williams
@tollie, I imagine Paul's ability to respond is now constrained, which is just one of the changes we'll see coming. There's new management in town, folks.
- Ken Kennedy
scared!!!
- abdellah
Good luck Paul... it's gonna be a great partnership.
- Andrew
Congrat's Paul. Great news, and I'm really happy for all of you!
- Michael Fidler
Congrats to the whole FriendFeed team!
- John McCrea
Way to go Paul - bet you sleep like a baby tonight whilst Biz and Ev scratch their heads once more!
- Jan Simmonds
Sure congrats to you!!!
- susan mernit
http://friendfeed.com/markzuk...... Hold on! markzukerberg?!?!
- Lora Lufark
Congrats!
- fbrunel
congratulations!
- Loic Le Meur
Congratulations Paul - I am very proud of you... no wonder you couldn't sleep! :) Now we know why! As you know, I am a huge fan of your FriendFeed product. I am very happy for you guys and hope you keep your fabulous culture of innovation going strong. This is really amazing.... nice exit! :)
- Susan Beebe
I have been wishing facebook could get more like Friendfeed :) awesome.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Nice job, Paul and team. Congrats!
- Rob Shillingsburg
many congrat. from UK. ;) @GarethWong
- Gareth
I bet you never forget your anniversary EVER ever now.
- Pete D
boo-urns
- Vezquex
:D
- paniaguai
:-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Congratulations, great for you and the team.
- Rocky
i like the way the deal was done!
- Siddharth Parmar
G.Z.s
- Ugur Akdmr
Fwd: Facebook acquires FriendFeed. Interview with Paul Buchheit, cofounder of FriendFeed. - http://btre.blogtalkradio.com/74_2996... (via http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...)
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Well that was fast, Robert.
- Adam Reyher
Wow. I honestly did not see THAT coming....
- Carter ♥ HTML5
Nice work Robert.
- Alex Calic
ya talk about real time news, thanks
- sean percival
listening
- Chris Saad
im not sure its such a great thing facebook and friendfeed sitting in a tree.
- Eran Even-Kesef
Good job Robert
- Ruchit Garg
Definitely, I'm listening now. Wow! This is breaking news!
- Manu Ullas
hopefully this turns out okay, don't want friendfeed to get ruined. great interview, that was fast reporting!
- Dakota O'Neill
What are your thoughts Robert?
- Amani
WD mate
- Chris Saad
Hoping this will lead to an improved/cleaner interface for Facebook...I prefer Friendfeed
- Rick Bucich
That was quick. Thanks robert.
- Akshay Dodeja
so, so sad. I like(d) Friendfeed much more than facebook
- Francisco Kemeny
home run for FF.. Facebook will be able to give developers a treasure trove of data one thing that Twitter is dominating on right now. Twitter has a huge developer community but isn't managing that. Here FB is poised to be huge
- John Furrier
So classic that Robert has the first interview about this...Where's Louis? :)
- Anthony Farrior
Wow!
- Ideas At Random
I think FriendFeed can help Facebook more than the other way around.
- Manu Ullas
"very cool...."
- Carter ♥ HTML5
How do they plan to mix the teenagers with the geeks?
- Jordi Soler
Amani: I am excited! Facebook has 800 employees and 300 million users. This makes both companies much more important.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
here was a comment on SiliconANGLE blog .. very funny .. "Hey, since we've copied almost every innovation you've had, guess you might as well play on the company softball team!"
- John Furrier
Nice strategic move - Interesting to see how this will integrate and looks in 12 months
- Alex Vermeule (@alexve)
to be honnest I was predicting google offer, then facebook preceed google on this, they are doing well, now rarding FF this is great, the sucess is to know when to pass to something else, the future will make the abtle wave, facebook rude for all geek it is time to code.
- abdellah
You rascal Robert, bet you had wind about FriendFeed and FaceBook merger before today? Yes? Have not used either SM apps. much UNTIL Twitter locked my account. May have been a fortunate mishap as it turns out. Getting to know the beauties of both apps. =)
- SashaKane
Awesome. Thanks.
- M. Kong
Robert wastes no time on the reporting. CNN needs reporters like this.
- JonSupermurray
Not sure I am so jazzed about it....but congratulations to the FF crew.
- Kreg Steppe
Honestly, I won't get used to following Robert Scoble in Facebook. Seems out of place to me.
- Jordi Soler
Wow! I was not expecting that.
- Devon Govett
Letter 'F' affinity and alliteration merger, classic playbook move.
- James Watters
Did I hear someone laugh in the background when you asked about FF users being disappointed?
- Paul Saarinen
Agreed Jordi
- Rick Bucich
A good interview Robert.
- Thomas Hawk
Thanks Robert! - shared and linked over on Phreadz : http://tech.phreadz.com/v...
- kosso
Robert, mind if I transcribe this? (Unless someone else already has.)
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Congrats on getting this story Robert. I agree--this is great, realtime journalism!
- Sunshine
No mention of twitter?
- Ivan Kirigin
Hahahaha...all that time you invested over here on FF paid off today! LMAO
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: just watch what happens now. :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
do you have a small amount of FriendFeed shares Robert?
- Torsten Eckert
NOOOOOOO. Damnit! I am praying that Facebook doesn't wall up Friendfeed. I was starting to build a site around Friendfeed :(
- beersage
beersage: as Facebook is trying to break their users into a more public world, I doubt that you really have anything to worry about there.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Starting to listen to this now. Hoping you are right, Rob.
- beersage
I hope so to. But regardless, I think that it was in reality necessary for FriendFeed to sell to really put the technology in front of a sufficient number of eyeballs. Facebook is probably the best acquirer that FriendFeed could have. (I would have not felt the same had FF been acquired by Google)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The thing with Friendfeed though is how I can share things outside of a 'wall.' I prominently feature the FF widget on my site. I'm just concerned of losing that capability as I was tinkering with delivering a new site w/ content primarily running through my Friendfeed account. I am to this day unable to do much outside of the wall. I am unable to subscribe to Fan Page updates in Google reader for instance. That is what concerns me about FB acquiring FF given my goals.
- beersage
Robert sounded quite breathless in that interview. Thanks Robert.
- Roberto Bonini
Great interview great Job!!
- Kevin J Hatton
This deal was about getting Paul and the team and nothing else
- Stephen Pickering
@stephan, are you serious? FB is buying a concept, a technoloie, a structure, a content and a user list
- abdellah
now how could a team that left google resist under a unique perception system, where the leader vision is upon any thing
- abdellah
Unconvincing Paul Buchheit, the team is more exited of being part of bigger story - logical for them to move on
- patrickdh
They want a way to turn their white pages into a yellow pages and the only guy on Earth who knows how to do it, is Paul
- Stephen Pickering
It was only about the technology and the people. Most people are on also FB anyway.
- James Myatt
My guess is that Paul got a tooooooooon of options and will soon be the No.2 guy at Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
Glossing over of that "short term" question by the FF boys. It just seems more about the individuals at FF than it does the users of FF. "Their (Facebook) long term goals" Nice interview, Robert!
- Melanie Reed
Well, it looks as if pass-through of FriendFeed Likes, Comments, etc. to Twitter is down. Will it be for good? Did Twitter do this in response to the acquisition? Or is it just a regular (though curiously timed) hiccup?
- Alex Schleber
twitter dow!!
- abdellah
Alex, my Facebook posts have been going through FriendFeed to Twitter today. :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
How did you record the phone conversation with Paul Buchheit? I went to BlogTalkRadio.com but... it‘s not clear at all :-(
- Florin Grozea
Florin, rough transcript here: http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...
- Bruce Lewis
To do this call I used BlogTalk Radio's Cinch: http://cinch.blogtalkradio.com/
- Robert Scoble
dugg: http://digg.com/tech_ne...
- Ali
Thanks for this, Scoble.
- mp3WatchWorld
this is why your own personal website is always more important than friendfeed, Twitter and all the rest. that's never going anywhere
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
Does anyone know how to make the nginx location directive match on the $query_string instead of just the path? It seems like an obvious thing to do, but I haven't found any solutions or examples.
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Been looking for this to setup proxy_pass a certain way but havent found a solution yet.
- Akshay Dodeja
I actually found one solution Akshay, but it fails if a backend fails because nginx seems to lose query_string on retry. Here it is: set $t = a; if ($query_string ~* "regex") { set $t b; proxy_pass http://back1; } if ($t = a) { proxy_pass http://back2; }
- Paul Buchheit
Interesting, I'll try it out. It should pass most of the time, right?
- Akshay Dodeja
Yeah, it seems to work as long as nginx doesn't need to retry. I'm guessing that it may be a bug in our version of nginx though, so it may work reliably on the newest versions.
- Paul Buchheit
Have you tried asking on the nginx mailing list? I seem to remember someone asking a similar question there a while ago although I can't see to find the post right now.
- jho
I wonder if Mike Arrington will need to make changes to CrunchPad because of Google's new OS?
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Would be pretty late in the production cycle for that wouldnt it?
- Geoff Schultz {TF}
CrunchPad looks pretty similar to Google's OS, very simple, very web centric. I wonder how Google shipping netbook OS will affect Arrington's plans?
- Robert Scoble
Are there pics of the Google OS?
- Jeremy Franklin
Mike is gonna bring out the first Google OS powered hardware ?
- Swaroop
Geoff: yes, but maybe CrunchPad 2.0 would shift because of it?
- Robert Scoble
I don't think the compelling feature of CrunchPad is its OS - it's the form factor. He won't lose anything by putting it on the CrunchPad as soon as it's released.
- Matt M (inactive)
hmm, thought that u have 2 plug into the USB and doesn't have much memory on its own? I may be wrong cuz I didn't get much info.
- polou/indigo_bow
I am looking forward to both launching. CrunchPad has a great form factor as well. We haven't seen anything from Google OS yet.
- Louis Gray
Swaroop: I doubt it, because CrunchPad needs touch features.
- Robert Scoble
well it will be open source, so I wouldn't be surprised if the innovations flow both ways - my understanding of the crunchpad is it is also based on Linux - so you might see features merge between both platforms...
- Shannon Clark
Shannon: yeah, I wonder if the CrunchPad OS could be ported to the Google OS? If so, that could be a big win for Mike.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Browser == Java script == Capture Mouse movements == Integrate with Crunchpad hardware ?
- Swaroop
I bet it could, because CrunchPad OS is built on Linux and I bet it won't take much porting work to move it to Google OS.
- Robert Scoble
@All - May be Crunchpad emulator on Google OS :)
- Swaroop
crunchpad is silly and only gets press because its Mike Arrington's baby.
- Zac Bowling
Robert - my point is that potentially as well Google may be porting features from the Crunchpad - the beauty of OS platforms...
- Shannon Clark
Ah, I do like crunchpad much better perfect 4 my Canadian-ness eyes.
- polou/indigo_bow
Zac: I disagree. I want a CrunchPad. It looks interesting to me as a coffee table computer. A poor man's Microsoft Surface.
- Robert Scoble
In any case, I bet Michael's time spent on Crunchpad just went from 75% to 100%. Or at least it should. Getting caught slacking while an opportunity awaits is no good.
- Sam Dodge
Zak from the photos & features descriptions, I'm pretty darn interested in buying a Crunchpad - seems like a very useful formfactor and device
- Shannon Clark
my initial reaction is: "do we need another OS?" even more to the point, Chrome browser is still quite a ways from done (mostly plugin problems) and i've not seen a lot of progress in this area. my suspicion is that the OS will go the same route. big splash on the easy 80%, but slow going on the remainin (difficult) 20% i remain optimistically skeptical.
- MikeAmundsen
I'm pretty sure I'm going to pick up a freelance gig just to purchase a Crunchpad. If only to support Mike and his team as they take a huge leap from reporting on tech to making tech.
- Sam Dodge
Robert: Curious to what's on the coming monday.
- Swaroop
Swaroop: I can't tell you until Monday.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: *Waiting...*
- Swaroop
OS define by Google isn't really an OS at all its like going 2 7-11. Anybody agree or disagree?
- polou/indigo_bow
Oh, you are a tease Robert! Do tell, we won't pass it on, promise! ;)
- Technogran
I think that Google Chrome OS lowers the barrier so that a lot of other companies can deliver their own pads. As such it is not a great news for Mike but it also validates the vision so may be a competitor might be interested in acquiring CrunchPad
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Robert: We won't let Google index what you say. nofollow
- Swaroop
Edwin: will CrunchPad ship with a "Google inside" sticker on it? :-)
- Robert Scoble
Time to market is everything....
- Chris Reichow
Robert would they need a chip maker lol
- polou/indigo_bow
Robert: we had something like CrunchPad inside TI when I worked there a few years ago. not a resistive touchscreen but it was pretty cool. concept device to pitch the OMAP processors to the hardware vendors we designed in house. Nokia bought into it and created the 770, N800, and N810 devices from that tech.
- Zac Bowling
man i hope he uses it on the crunchpad instead!
- sean percival
With that form factor, it needs a wacom tablet and windows 7.
- Rodfather
I think that the bigger opportunity for the crunchpad is to enable other media companies (not Techcrunch) to buy the technology and create their own pads (everyone wants to replicate the Kindle model for their own content). The problem of Google OS is that it slice the Crunchpad in the middle.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Mashable have an article on: will Google kill Windows? http://mashable.com/2009..., seriously, we need more competition not killing them off!!!
- polou/indigo_bow
Rodfather: I disagree. There's a new opportunity to get rid of installable software and go completely with Internet platforms. That's why CrunchPad, Jolicloud, and Google's OS are so interesting.
- Robert Scoble
Google won't kill Microsoft. They don't need to. They need to open up new opportunities.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I am still scared to put personal data out on the cloud. Is it time already ?
- Swaroop
Robert they need to use cloud, therefore still would not solve the problem of storage.
- polou/indigo_bow
I still want the option :) GoogleOS will run on anything. So it'll naturally make it there.
- Rodfather
They do not need to kill Microsoft but they need to change the terrain of the fight from search to productivity apps and OS and they are doing a good job at it.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, I disagree, what is interesting about the Crunchpad is delivering a form factor that is better for many people than the Kindle (or at least a much better price point) I'm going to get one to use for lots of digital reading. Swaroop - pretty much all of my personal data is already in the cloud - and more secure there than on my computers in an earthquake zone
- Shannon Clark
is there the reason why there r SSL ways 2 purchase or other ways to keep data safe @Swaroop
- polou/indigo_bow
@Shannon. Form factor is cool but that is a pure hardware business, mostly outsourced to asian manufacturers and very thin margin. The software is where the barrier to entry and business models will be.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Shannon: My confidence is shaken when a lot of personal data/docs get exposed due to flaws in software. We just need a "skynet" kind of bot to auto check for vulnerabilities.
- Swaroop
@edwin the software is open source - which means that anyone can use it. the margins, though thin are real if you do hardware right. Sure outsourced, but high design & a competitive price can equal very large sales so small margin still equals decent profits (and sustainable business)
- Shannon Clark
@shannon: so do you mean that Google Chrome OS will not reduce the barrier to entry for companies wanting to create their own XXX pad?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
no I mean the Crunchpad & the GoogleOS are both based on Open Source, so the competitive advantage of the crunchpad is hardware design, not software (as far as I know from what I've read)
- Shannon Clark
polou/indigo_bow: Yes data transfer and storage could be encrypted. We need better identity management too
- Swaroop
yup current identity identification issues r not my favorite, OpenID not all perfect even though I am a big fan of it. Its so hard to work with, grrr @swaroop i could say more but thats all 4 now.
- polou/indigo_bow
unless they have already licensed some of the patents covering the more popular touch idioms using GoogleOS would give them a broad-base multi-touch API to work with that has deeper pockets to fight the patent battles
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
well this may sound strange - but I suspect more than a few patents could (potentially at least - I'm not a lawyer) be invalidated by prior art in the form of movies like Minority Report (and likely other earlier but less popular SF series & movies) which showed multitouch type of interfaces
- Shannon Clark
more copyrights problems cuz of the mighy $$$. that left the big boys again, isn't it?
- polou/indigo_bow
No mention on price...I wonder if google will go for the free + ads model. Imagine ads running on the desktop, along with annon. usage statistics, how much more will google know?
- Thomas Hunsaker
from Android
@thomas why assume they will run ads in/on the OS - I'd guess that like Android they offer it for free (or for a very marginal cost) to OEM's, bundled with a bunch of default links to Google properties (esp Google search as default) and profit from expanding the number of people & devices connected online. Add in revenues from selling cloud based packages such as Google Apps for Domains and they make money w/o ads on the desktop or privacy issues
- Shannon Clark
Thomas: why wouldn't Google Chrome OS be free?
- Robert Scoble
Thomas: You would have it Google Chrome OS Beta under Google Apps. And yes there will be a lite version where you can only run a single process :)
- Swaroop
Great discussion. I think Mike should not adopt Chrome OS for crunchpad to begin with. I don't even think Chrome OS would be polished by the time he plans to launch crunchpad. I think Crunchpad launch could set the bar and direction for what Google Chrome OS should/could be. In terms of usability, we still don't know how Google Chrome OS could play out. I think different initiatives such as Chrome, Crunchpad and Jolicloud will help this ecosystem,.
- Akshay Dodeja
I'll get a CrunchPad only if Chrome OS is in it
- Hendra
CrunchPad and ChromeOS are fundamentally distinct, seeing as they run completely different browsers (Firefox and Chrome, respectively). They will be able to share apps, though, as Google has stated that apps will work in any HTML 5 browser.
- Vezquex
Vezquex: why is the CrunchPad limited to Firefox? When I saw the CrunchPad I saw nothing that would limit it like that and that dependency, if it exists, is probably easily worked around.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - my guess is that as Firefox is one of the only browsers currently available for Linux that is what Vezquex is thinking - however with this announcement I suspect we can guess that Google will be announcing Chrome for Linux rather soon (which likely means for Mac OS as well)
- Shannon Clark
maybe he was in on the big secret and crunchpad is the first device running chrome os?
- Servaas Schrama
Thought I read the crunchpad has a webkit browser ... Not firefox - at least not by default.
- Jonathan Greene
from iPhone
I agree with the browser as the OS but why would I want a pad that I have to lift my knees up to see when I can have a lap top that I can tilt the screen to fit any position I fell like stretching out in? The price point is going to have to be low, low, low for this form factor to take off.
- Stephen Pickering
Scoble, Why you want to discuss this, when we have other worries. Running adobe in chrome, UI etc
- Michael_techie
Hello…? reality check. Is there a CrunchPad on the market? Is there a $249.95 CrunchPad on sale? Quit talking of it as it it were a done deal. It it anything but, and the promiseware may yet end up in TC Deadpool before it has shipped a single unit. Takes a bunch of geeks on FF to discuss implications of porting "CrunchPad OS," hell, emulating it even, on Chrome OS, before either has passed into the domain of the real.
- ianf ⌘
@Shannon Clark [suspects that] "more than a few patents could (potentially at least - I'm not a lawyer) be invalidated by prior art in the form of movies like Minority Report (and likely other earlier but less popular SF series & movies) which showed multitouch type of interfaces." - you are confusing Hollywood with Real Life, which I suggest you get a dose of, the latter.
- ianf ⌘
It's all Linux, and I suspect that crunchpad if it even has an OS uses it too. Swapping out one Linux for another is relatively easy if you've got the source and the hardware information. <3 the Linux Virus, an OS that runs on almost all known hardware, and even as a x86 BIOS for instant ON.
- rob friedman
@dodeja "I think Crunchpad launch could set the bar and direction for what Google Chrome OS should/could be." Puuhlease...get real, what have u been drinking?
- Hendra
I wish Mike luck with the pad but it's just not the right form factor for me, just a little too big from what i can tell. My ultimate would be like a 6" screen. With a device this size you have to decide if you are going to finger or thumb type. Anything in between is going to be awkward.
- Keith James Designs
actually no. If a work of fiction depicts an innovation (especially stuff like UI) that could certainly be prior art. The point of a patent is to be INNOVATION - prior art, even in fiction, is just that - earlier examples of someone else having the same idea. And in the case of Minority Report - a LOT of people contributed to build those interfaces & design ideas - see http://www.lukew.com/ff...
- Shannon Clark
Shannon, you win. Please be sure to report back here (minority- or majoritywise, either will do) on any patent application contesting case, where fantasy GUIs cooked up for film-clarity reasons –it's never an easy thing to show off on a cinema screen– are entered as exhibits of "prior art," therefore either invalidating, or denying a patent. I'll wait by the computer until next Tuesday, do we have a deal?
- ianf ⌘
Indian Court Overturns Gay Sex Ban - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
Akshay Dodeja liked this
"Homosexuality has been illegal in India since 1861, when British rulers codified a law prohibiting “carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman or animal.” The law, known as Section 377 of India’s penal code, has long been viewed as an archaic holdover from colonialism by its detractors."
- Sam Grover
from Bookmarklet
Much more to be done, but it is a good first step towards full freedom.
- Sam Grover
This is great. I didn't even realize being gay in India was illegal. Time for change :)
- Akshay Dodeja
Live now, This Week In Tech with Denise Howell, Tom Merritt, Jeff Cannata, and Jason "Maverick" Calacanis. http://live.twit.tv Discuss here...
Kishore Jeganathan, siouxmoux, Tyson Key and 137 other people liked this
first
- Bruce Segal
There we go
- Ken Sheppardson
hey
- Matthew
1k peeps in irc.twit.tv
- Devin Baines
Lets do this thing
- Jack
Thanks for remembering to ask for this Denise
- Chris Heath
Wooo!
- Lise
15+ likes already!
- Gavin
hola
- Mike Bracco
Hold on to your butts
- Roberto Bonini
Yay
- Andrew Johnson
ello ello ello
- Jackson Pollock
yahoo
- David Ginsburg
HAMMER TIME!
- Jason Thompson
"Thats what i like about it" Funny man leoo
- Akshay Dodeja
howdy
- Denise Howell
Hello all
- Dante Repko
heyp
- Sebastian
Ello!
- Robert
w00t there we go... Looking foward to this show
- Chris
Hello
- Doug
is this how I comment?
- Myles Cloutier
Thanks for reminding Leo of Friendfeed Denise
- Matthew
Will you be talking about WWDC?
- nick
hello again :)
- Zeeshan Virani
Bring back the stoagie
- Zane Blandish
hello
- jeffoneill
Lets do dis.
- DivemasterDoug
awesome
- Aubrey_Ingraham
Hello!
- John Slanina
Hey Yo!
- Roy Pledge
why is this better than irc?
- Myles Cloutier
hi
- Michael Mooney
Leo say FU again!
- Garrett B. Rhodes
woohoo!
- cchiango
Yay Palm Pre! ;)
- Rob
Jeff Cannata FTW
- Hasan Al Shehabi
OK, this is going to go through the roof on likes and comments...
- Ken Sheppardson
for clean embed style chat with comment box at bottom (auto scrolling) http://friendfeed.com/twit-co...
- Chris Heath
Excited for yet another amazing episode of twit!
- John
here we go
- Stephen Collins
first time here
- Gus
Ok, let's get this started.
- Mister IQ
That was a dumb remark
- Gavin
Kick the tires, light the fires
- Tim Frasier
this is a lot harder to follow
- Theodore Grabow
Leo, you should do Talkshoe for this show
- Matthew
How is this better than IRC?
- Henrik
on FF for first time in a "coon's age" this thing has gotten all javascripty!
- James Britton
Hey hey!!
- Randy Cornetta
This is way better than irc
- Gavin
This is not difficult!!
- MarK
screw you! LOL
- Alex Jordan
Really cool to see Jeff Cannata on the show today.
- Eric Florenzano
How do I use this??
- Bruce Wagner
@Henrik it's not
- BryanSchuetz
Wow...haven't seen comments come in this fast...
- Mike Bracco
iPhone Rumors please!
- Roy Pledge
Liking, and searching
- Gavin
Nice, I love BOL!
- Bill Frater
miss dvorak
- Alex Jordan
Henrik: It's archived ans searchable, for one thing
- Ken Sheppardson
Don't miss the Pirate Party success in the EU election now :)
- Ola Johansson
Whoa! My FriendFeed live feed is going crazy!
- Mister IQ
@Gavin does anyone really search comment transcripts?
- BryanSchuetz
whats the dif between this and chat
- David Suro
السلام عليكم
- TunisianGuy
Calacanis will do Dvorak impressions for those who miss him.
- Kevykev
Doug is usually in here
- Jackson Pollock
Hello all!
- zephyrlily
yeah, pretty fast...
- Bill Frater
live commenting
- David Suro
Already the most entertaining in weeks & the show has just started!
- Todd
Nice pre-show
- Sergey Petrenko
the FF chat persists
- Chris
TRS FTW!
- Roy Pledge
hey peoples
- Jason Calacanis
hey FFers, how do I make it so that there's always a comment window open for me in this thread?
- Lise
FF is sticker than irc chat
- Stephen Collins
If you want a clean window, with a comment box stuck open on the bottom, you can click on the timestamp of the entry twice, or just go to http://friendfeed.com/twit-co...
- Ken Sheppardson
searchable
- Chris Heath
ITs as crazy as a chat line. :)
- RALPH
Hope the show is as good as the preshow
- Steve Dickey
yay Jeff ... moving on up ... :D
- Zeeshan Virani
Using friendfeed For The First Time And It Looks Cool With The Ajax Stuff
- nanochrome
Jeff Cannata is a cool guy
- James Britton
I feel like i need 3 monitors to watch TWiT...one for the video, one for FriendFeed, one for the IRC...
- John
Rofl, prenatal
- Gavin
"Natal" means Christmas in Portuguese
- Filipe Rodrigues
Hi Jason!
- John
Preshow was good
- Roberto Bonini
Too cool for Alex Albrecht anyway
- James Britton
lol
- Randy Cornetta
SCREW YOU!
- Chris
I agree with Jason, this can be confusing sometime
- Michael Ballack
Ken Sheppardson great tip thanks.
- Walter McNabb
CALACANIS - nice little drama you had this past week with Fluther - http://blog.fluther.com/blog...
- Mike Bracco
@Ken S: Thank you!
- Lise
Play him off keyboard cat.
- Rob
calacanis is leos wingman
- Tobias Lewsadder
i keep having to scroll down a lot
- nanochrome
Leo, you did the right thing with Mike Arrington. He TOTALLY deserved it! :)
- Bruce Wagner
lol I knew it
- Chris
"screw you!"
- Dakota O'Neill
Tom's wife is Eileen not Elaine
- Doug Walker
we'll do it live
- Jackson Pollock
Y'all see the Leo/Arrington Keyboard Cat?? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ken Sheppardson
Podcast listeners are not going to understand the whole "Screw You!" thing.
- Mister IQ
This scrolling is crazy for this thread. It didn't used to be like this. Wow. I'm getting dizzy
- Lise
i dont see the big fuss about ff
- David Suro
It took an iPhone to produce the Palm Pre
- Jay McCormack
pre
- Kris Gustafson
this use of friendfeed comments is interesting/insane
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
I actually think that the v1 Pre is better than v1 iPhone was
- Gavin
Jason looks pimp
- Bart
App's Are The Winner For The Iphone
- nanochrome
Apple is going to totally eclipse the pre tommorrow
- Roy Pledge
Leo, peeked at the new Instinct, more changes coming
- Chris Miller
how do you get it to scroll fo ryou
- Jackson Pollock
@gavin I would hope so :)
- Akshay Dodeja
Roy: Agreed
- Jay McCormack
apps for the pre are coming soon
- Michael Benny
@Mister IQ: I think anyone who watches this show regularly has already heard about yesterday's debacle, heh.
- Cory Roush
I'm waiting for a 1.1 WebOS before getting a Pre
- Stephen Collins
G2 is what you're looking for Jason
- Gavin
I don't have the numbers handy... can somebody remind me how many apps were in the iPhone app store the day it launched?
- Ken Sheppardson
Isnt that the Samsung
- Tom Ryder
It is the default for it to scroll.
- Scott Ohlemacher
sounds like jason wants the nokia n97
- Mark Zip
But It Can Only Be Made With HTML CSS JAVASCRIPT
- nanochrome
Palm should have built the app store for it sooner to make a better initial impact
- Chris Miller
So, who wants to bet that even though Calacanis pushed the Arrington issue before the show, he'll bring it up again during the show. Arrington's a prick, apology or no...
- James Britton
Thats called a payphone.
- Tom Ryder
@Tom yes the Samsung
- Chris Miller
I think Jason looks kind of like the actor that played Squiggy on Laverne & Shirley.
- Sean Patrick Sengenberger
can I get more lines of scrolling
- Troy S
Well could be in Canada
- Greg
Palm should've done lots of things earlier. People forget that Palm has 900 employees vs Apples 35,000
- Ken Sheppardson
HTML CSS Javascript is all you need for a phone app
- Michael Benny
yeah
- Roberto Bonini
No
- Gavin
@Cory Yes, but the listeners to the recorded podcast probably didn't hear about this.
- Mister IQ
james it was already brought up, were you not watchin?
- Chris Heath
It was all over digg
- Scott Ohlemacher
I agree. I feel bad for the Pre because they're not going to get the coverage they deserve.
- Lise
Apple comes with discounted apps, no slideout keyboard ever, enhanced OS and 2 iPhone hardware versions
- Chris Miller
is there some way to have the comments scroll down from the top ranter than pushing off the screen?
- BryanSchuetz
@chris heath, that was not during the show, it was before recording wasn't it?
- James Britton
They better announce a new iPhone on Monday
- Lise
+2 BryanSchuetz
- Jackson Pollock
Apple definitely needs to do something amazing
- Gavin
Yeah, the market has already "priced in" a new iPhone, so to speak.
- Ken Sheppardson
Definately
- Roberto Bonini
Apple will win by default
- Jackson Pollock
Video phone, front-facing camera.
- Colin
@Bryan try http://friendfeed.com/realtime
- zephyrlily
They better release OS 3.0 Monday
- Roy Pledge
I need apple to announce a new iphone
- Kim Landwehr
james there was a lot of discussion before the show, but it was brought up when leo started talking about the pre
- Chris Heath
@chris heath, guess i was too busy getting blinded by ff live stream here :)
- James Britton
Roy Pledge: I don't think they will release it.
- Mister IQ
And everyone says it charges very slow
- Tom Ryder
hmm that didint' help
- BryanSchuetz
A "win" for Palm isn't killing the iPhone, it's just selling Pres as fast as they can make them.
- Ken Sheppardson
LOL @ leo throwing the stone charger
- Lise
iPhone is from MARS - Pre is from VENUS. Pre works with fingernails. IPhone not so much! I'm told...
- Todd
Video would be software
- Gavin
2megapixels
- Jackson Pollock
Is Jason flying a helicopter?
- Eric Rice
I've gotten very good at using the iPhone keyboard, a lot better than I thought I would be
- Matthew
video chat on new iphone will be a wow
- BryanSchuetz
Can u tether the Pre?
- Mike R
bg notifications are the bomb for the pre
- Gavin
Mike R: I think no
- Jay McCormack
"3" network phones in UK/Ireland all have front facing phones for video calling, US is so far behind on this feature
- James Britton
Zephyrlily: I am using that in my Firefox sidebar, and it is going crazy with this TWiT live FF room.
- Mister IQ
If you want this feed in a stand-alone pop-up anchored on an open comment box, try http://friendfeed.com/twit-co...
- Ken Sheppardson
The arrogant american mind. The pre is us only. Nobody outside the US gives a c***
- Jackson Pollock
zephyrlily, the realtime has been taken away for comments, right?
- Matthew
Hi from the UK!
- Najeeb Mirza
@Bryan Is is working now?
- zephyrlily
The Pre will be a solid player in the market.
- Jim Bednarz
Flinging a card up to close an app is very viceral on the pre
- Michael Benny
Is Palm Pre really comparable to the iPhone?
- Bruce Wagner
Thanks Jay@
- Mike R
zephrlily: I've never seen that page before. How long has that real time functionality been around?
- Mike Bracco
Bruce: Absolutely
- Ken Sheppardson
@Matthew I can still comment
- zephyrlily
Doubt it.
- Andre D.
That is sweet.
- Roberto Bonini
Wow, awesome animation!
- Gavin
"Screw You Leo" beer drinking game???
- Todd
@Zephyrlily @kens link worked
- BryanSchuetz
Very Sweet
- nanochrome
Lindsay: I think they will do multi-tasking on the new hardware. The 3G hardware won't be able to keep up
- Jay McCormack
Lindsay: No, i don't. They are already releasing Push Notifications.
- Mister IQ
zephyrlily, but the comments don't look like the old style, correct?
- Matthew
Apple will do multitasking after they figure out music subscriptions and a real right click
- Michael Benny
Blackberry easily shows the apps running,but even with the Palm you will have to learn which slide closes, puts in backgrond or uses
- Chris Miller
@lindsay doubt it, push notifications only
- James Britton
when is the next iphone coming out?
- Bruce Wagner
You can get Everything 450 with the Pre... $70
- Ken Sheppardson
I dont think so, I think I came on after that
- zephyrlily
The Iphone 3 Will Blow The Pre Out Of The World
- nanochrome
Pre G1 iPhone
- Roberto Bonini
hopefully they'll announce a new iPod Touch with a camera
- Matthew
Canada will probably get Pre next year ;-)
- Greg
Yeah I Want To Get A Ipod Touch
- nanochrome
no Jonathan Ive team anywhere but at Apple
- Jackson Pollock
I want the Apple Touch/Netbook so bad!
- Mike R
Who puts a camera on a Touch!!!!!!?????????
- Roberto Bonini
Can't understand why people like Blackberry's. BIS is horrible.
- Andre D.
Canada gets the Pre later this year http://www.engadget.com/2009...
- Ken Sheppardson
To Make It A Iphone Without A Phone
- nanochrome
@Mike I think this is the older version
- zephyrlily
So far, Palm Pre looks way better than Blackberry, I see it as 1. iPhone 2. Pre/WebOS 3. Blackberry 4. everyone else
- James Britton
An iPod Touch with a camera would be awesome, then it can be used with all the camera apps on the app store
- Matthew
"All we need is an open source iphone with a replaceable battery, multiple carriers, and a real slide-away keyboard."
- Bruce Wagner
Matthew: probably not until September if it happens. Especially since the iPod event is in September.
- Mister IQ
James: Where does andriod fit?
- Jay McCormack
Bruce: thats a G1
- Roberto Bonini
what is the enterprise hook for palm pre? what sync app? activeSync? Push?
- Chris Miller
Imagine webOS on iphone hardware
- Jack
Mister IQ, last year they announced the new Touch in the summer, before it came out in September
- Matthew
And A Mic In A Ipod Touch So Mic Apps All Work
- nanochrome
My WinMo phone has an app to turn it into a wifi router
- Michael Benny
I have a T-Mobile MDA and haven't upgraded because EDGE data is costing me $5 but if I got a new phone, it would be $25!, thats over $200 more per year!
- Sean Flaherty
I'm sure we'll see webOS on different form factors withing 12 months... there's already a candybar in the works
- Ken Sheppardson
@Jay throw Android in at number three (maybe tied with 2) and shove blackberry down
- James Britton
Japan has HD video cell phones already!
- Scott Hubble
Google gave out free phones at I/O - think Apple will do the same at WWDC?
- Jesse Stay
Matthew: Still it may not be released until September by my guess.
- Mister IQ
"apple has a tendency to make me drool"
- Jay McCormack
how about a 3G macbook Air using a via cpu & ION platform
- Michael Mooney
Mister IQ, I definitely agree with that
- Matthew
it won't be a tablet either, it won't have a pen.
- Jackson Pollock
@Ken Definitely. It makes no sense to switch over to Sprint.
- Andre D.
Apple and a solid state tablet?
- Chris Miller
Jesse: What plans did they 'give out'
- Jay McCormack
Netbook????
- Roberto Bonini
Apple stone tablet
- James Britton
what about the Crunch Tablet???????
- Matthew
Google gave out G2s with a pre-paid card
- Ken Sheppardson
Jay, Google gave a month of free service with the phone for developers to play with.
- Jesse Stay
I think Jason C. is wrong, Apple is not going to release a Netbook
- Akshay Dodeja
no, they said that they were looking at it, but only for research
- Jackson Pollock
The Crunchpad?
- Greg Byrne
Apple will release a netbook, but it'll cost $1800
- Jay McCormack
netbooks are in their first year. apple never jumps on something that new.
- Jackson Pollock
Apple TV in a TV? i doubt, but ok Calicanis...
- Mister IQ
@matthew Arrington's not getting my money
- James Britton
Perhaps our definateion of netbook is wrong. Jason explain what is the spec of Apple Netbook
- Akshay Dodeja
I wish a CrucnchTablet! :D
- Daynah
I agree..... A new revamped ATV is more likely
- Roberto Bonini
It hadn't occured to me that Apple could do a *subsidized* small laptop... hm...
- Ken Sheppardson
Crunch tablet looks good, and at $300 it would be a bargain, we'll see.
- Matthew
I agree with Jay...
- Daynah
James Britton: I still want a CrunchPad...
- Mister IQ
The only way Apple would do a tablet-like machine, it would be with the iPhone OS
- Jackson Pollock
why NETBOOKS SUCK - http://ff.im/3EMXY interesting take
- Mike Bracco
10" Apple laptop with AT&T for $299 up front
- Ken Sheppardson
I could never work on a netbook
- Roberto Bonini
Jackson: That would be cool
- Jay McCormack
Apple will never release a netbook with ATOM processor.
- Akshay Dodeja
Is there a way to keep the twit.tv popout window always on top?
- zephyrlily
zephyrlily: I use nvidia software to put any window on top
- Jay McCormack
Apple Might Make a netbook but they will redefine what netbooks are
- nanochrome
zephyrlily, you would probably have to have a separate app that does that for you
- Matthew
Jackson Pollock: I hope it would have a full version of OS X.
- Mister IQ
I think Apple might drop the price of AIR, the margins on
- Akshay Dodeja
Steve hates pens and gloves and everything like that. They would never do a tablet with a pen, and never do a tablet without a pen, but with OSX. It will be a huge iPhone
- Jackson Pollock
I tend to agree with Jeff Cannata about tablets, iPhone is a perfect size, just needs more power/storage/openness
- James Britton
Would you read on a Kindle DX?????
- Roberto Bonini
Who would want a giant iPhone?
- Mister IQ
On a train route I take regularly with free wi-fi, at least half the people have laptops open.
- Greg Byrne
AppleMan Bag
- Chris Miller
The iManPurse
- Mister IQ
The guy ahead of me in line for Pre Saturday morning had a Kindle. First time I'd seen one in person. I'm tempted.
- Ken Sheppardson
Mister IQ: If it was a beautiful screen, more power, yes!
- Jay McCormack
@Jay @Matthew Ok, thanks
- zephyrlily
Apple tablet will be just as sucessful as the Apple Hi-Fi speaker system
- Michael Benny
I think he is right
- Akshay Dodeja
that sony thing is ridiculous
- Matthew
That'll be the big news from Apple this week: a new line of bags
- Ken Sheppardson
LOL you guys are killing me with the purse jokes
- Roberto Bonini
INET
- nanochrome
Yea for Man Purses! :D We can accessorize together. :)
- Daynah
Dear Jason, you know which platforms already have the turn-it-into-a-wifi-hotspot app you described? Windows Mobile and Symbian. For months.
- Vlad Bobleanta
iBook
- Jim Bednarz
tom's exactly right
- Chris Heath
Mister IQ. They would never do that. if an engineer gave Steve a touchscreen devise that you have to hit a tiny little red x in a corner to exit an app, he would throw it out the window. It has to have a touchscreen OS.
- Jackson Pollock
I'm so proud of them, they haven't mentioned twitter once!
- Curtis
They're not going to release a Netbook unless there is some sort of developer focus. Remember this is a dev conference.
- Jesse Stay
Macbook Air Touch????
- Roberto Bonini
@Ken Thinking about it now, I've yet to see one in person.
- Antoniu
OK, maybe...but i would prefer OS X
- Mister IQ
hmm just realized I can route all the comments here to chat through ff@chat.friendfeed.com
- BryanSchuetz
And there's our title "The Manpurse"
- Aaron T. Harvey
I can see a convertible tablet Air
- Ken Sheppardson
the iPhone OS is built from OSX.
- Jackson Pollock
Ahh this long Friendfeed chat is getting annoying, I wish I could invert it and have the message box on top.
- Akshay Dodeja
yeah and the ATV runs it as well
- Roberto Bonini
sorry not the chat itself, but the scrolling part.
- Akshay Dodeja
Akshay: Try this view - http://friendfeed.com/twit-co...
- Ken Sheppardson
Apple will never make anything with a pen or a hinge that you rotate. It breaks with every one of Dieter Rams' rules of good design.
- Jackson Pollock
if you open it in a second window the comments will scroll up from the comment box
- BryanSchuetz
@ken that was really helpful. How do we find these embed links ourselves?
- Lise
@Ken thanks! Much better! :)
- Akshay Dodeja
@ken thanks
- Jackson Pollock
kshep: oh thanks, that view is waaaay better. wish it was default.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Leo should start a FF post for comments during WWDC for people @ WWDC to liveblog and others to chat.
- Mister IQ
Lisa: Click on the entry timestamp once to get it by itself on a page, click on it again for a pop-out.
- Ken Sheppardson
Leo your Twitter Calacanis.... [pic] Link leads to a File Not Found Error page
- Erle Stride
correct me if wrong... but no one on the shows monitors this right?
- Jay McCormack
Looks like Bing already lost its #2 spot to Yahoo: http://tcrn.ch/3K5
- Cory Roush
@ken thank you!
- Lise
FriendFeed's a really slick way to live blog announcements. A room/group dedicated to WWDC would be slick
- Ken Sheppardson
ken leo will be live streaming some sort of apple coverage tomorrow iirc (there should be a twit-conversation for it)
- Chris Heath
Will It Be A New One......
- nanochrome
What time is WWDC tomorrow?
- Jesse Stay
0900 am
- Jackson Pollock
Let me guess... only in the US?
- Jay McCormack
Yup
- Roberto Bonini
PST
- Roberto Bonini
mmm so now I have the FF chat window in front of my twit live view. this is awesome.
- Lise
or 4am the day after where i am
- nanochrome
Thank you to Mahalo, oops SquareSpace
- Chris Miller
no, i mean a #squarespace iphone prize only in the US.
- Jay McCormack
Too bad I'm working while WWDC is going down. I'll monitor the MacRumors feed
- Roy Pledge
I gotta get up for work in 6 hours
- Jackson Pollock
They're making developers get up at 9am?
- Jesse Stay
LOL
- nanochrome
Hey... we had to get up at 7am for Google I/O. lol
- Daynah
@Jesse: It's day one, they wont be hungover yet
- Roy Pledge
Daynah hmmm...maybe it was good I stayed home. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: The keynote is 10:00AM Pacific
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken ah, that's much better - 11am my time :)
- Jesse Stay
3am here
- Jay McCormack
Wake up, open the laptop, and listen
- Jesse Stay
I wish I could see the FriendFeed chat next to the video of this
- Jesse Stay
Yeah good idea jesse
- Roberto Bonini
IT DOES LEO: after a threshold, ads get thrown out of system
- Mike Bracco
The creepy dancing Six Flags guy
- Ken Sheppardson
Jason the digg blog that announced (http://blog.digg.com/?p=808) digg ads says "Conversely the more an ad is buried, the more the advertiser is charged, pricing it out of the system."
- russtbarnacle
@Jesse, popout the twit.tv and put it next to your FF window
- zephyrlily
zephyrlily I know how to do that - that's not what I was referring to. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jason is full of it, people will watch good ads... Superbowl anyone?
- Roy Pledge
@jesse I'm sure when (if?) Wave comes out, Leo will do that.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Bing takes over Yahoo, wihtout much effort. all advertising
- Chris Miller
hehe
- Roberto Bonini
yo friendfeed peeps
- ralphsaunders
I am really surprised how good Bing is
- Michael Mowery
These new ads on Digg are going to be annoying because Adblock won't be able to block them.
- Antoniu
I use Bing to find blog images now
- Jesse Stay
the map thing for bing is really hard to use
- ralphsaunders
hi hipp :D
- ralphsaunders
321, but they'll be just like another digg post and non-instrusive
- Chris Heath
I been using Bing and its not bad
- Kim Landwehr
I don't think Bing is doing well regionally beyond the US. i can't get the map stuff to work in Australia.
- Jay McCormack
But Google Is Better And I Don't Like Going To Any Microsoft Site
- nanochrome
Bing 's reign as Number 2 search engine ends after one day - @TechCrunch - http://bit.ly/sEHTW
- Todd
bing = because it's not google or bing is not google
- Holger Eilhard
Even if BING is great, what is the compelling reason to use anything other than Google which IS great and I am really comfortable with already?
- Joel Asaro
I'm very impressed with Bing. I haven't used Google since Bing come out.
- Joseph Ferris
Joel: Agreed... there's just not enough to move accross to it
- Jay McCormack
That's the problem it good but there is nothing about Bing that makes people want to use it over Google
- Kim Landwehr
The video preview is a thumbnail, how can Denise expect you to watch a video in a search result in total
- Jay McCormack
Bing; how about not showing previews of short videos. problem solved
- Roberto Bonini
True
- nanochrome
how do they pull relevance
- Chris Miller
Does bing do that for Youtube videos???
- Roberto Bonini
I Don't Think So
- nanochrome
Bing beats out Yahoo, cuz it's the only pre-installed search on the new Explorer!!
- Alex
Leo: Groan
- Roy Pledge
I Didn't Know That
- nanochrome
Nice work digitalkitty http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Erle Stride
@holger I prefer But It's No Google
- Lise
Its not supposed to be google
- Roberto Bonini
well then mission accomplished
- Lise
This is the same issue over and over again. It's not the technology's responsibility to not watch inappropriate content (porn or violence or whatever). It's the parent's responsibility to instill the right values in the child.
- Jay McCormack
And now we all know...
- Jesse Stay
See! Leo has done a good job educating his kids to look at the right stuff
- Jay McCormack
Where is everyone going for WWDC coverage?
- Mister IQ
@Chris That's true, but I would personally rather just see user-generated content without the advertising. At least Digg is doing it much better, as long as they clearly disclose what is advertisement, than banner ads and popups.
- Antoniu
is WWDC going to be streamed, or will it only be for download after the fact
- Matthew
Bing video search does show youtube videos
- Kim Landwehr
@Master IQ: I'll be following MacRumors
- nick
Poorngle
- zephyrlily
Permitted content is tolerated different in each counrtry I visit fow work. makes intresting browsing
- Chris Miller
Matthew: Only for download, unfortunatly.
- Mister IQ
MacRumors... Assuming the feed doesn't egt hacked again
- Roy Pledge
Aaargh!...
- Jesse Stay
@Matthew Several sites will be live blogging the event, Apple will probably put up a video later in the day.
- Antoniu
yeah. Apple provides a video pdcast feed to subscribe to in iTunes.
- Roberto Bonini
'tis a Mutiny, me mateys!
- Jesse Stay
Arrrrrr, matey..... Dont no one say parley!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
How about Balmer not liking US tax proposals? ...
- Xenophrenia
he should have simply gone to just take over that account
- Chris Miller
LOL Jason. Exactly
- Lise
it is already settled right? (from here in St Louis)
- Chris Miller
they said it wa pulled and settled with the donatio. HE made no statement boutactually using twitter and actually RUNNINg his account
- Chris Miller
Exactly - that case has already been lost in court. Tony needs a better lawyer.
- Jesse Stay
Twitter starts verified accounts soon, problem solved.
- Jay McCormack
actually it wasnt lost. Twitter didnt say "guilty" but settled already
- Chris Miller
did Jason just screw up?
- Jay McCormack
Quick MG! Word's out..
- Jesse Stay
Ooops Jason? LOL!
- John
it is one of their monetization moves. fees for payment system
- Chris Miller
Payment and Authentication for twitter is a good idea.
- Jay McCormack
who becomes the digital banker? and what happenes when the twitter bank is down?
- Chris Miller
who owns their name on twitter? their real full name?
- Lise
sorry bank closed, twitter is down
- Chris Miller
Chris: Fail whale becomes a MUCH bigger issue... right
- Jay McCormack
I do
- Cory Roush
Twitter is the banker, and gets a cut: business model
- Greg Byrne
ha
- Chris Miller
Hard work... it's taken PayPal years to get it right
- Jay McCormack
Exactly when did PayPal get it right?
- Roy Pledge
LOL @ clinton and cigar. Did anyone get that?
- Lise
Would be nice if they bring back their old features they took away because their infrastructure couldn't handle them before they try to add new ones.
- Ken Sheppardson
Of the many payment options, it's easy, it works, it's international, it might be expensive, but it does work.
- Jay McCormack
he didnt make any intention to even use or expand no the account, he just wanted it down
- Chris Miller
yeah ken, but you and i know that's not a technical problem
- Chris Heath
@Lise: I laughed, but then felt guilty because no one seemed to find it funny :P
- Cory Roush
Have you ever tried to contact Twitter support?
- Jesse Stay
@Ken I agree. I'm still upset about this whole @ reply feature
- Lise
You have to have TechCrunch to write about it for them to listen that you are being impersonated.
- Jesse Stay
@Cory I don't think anyone got it. lol
- Lise
@Jesse: Yes, and it was one of the most frustrating processes I've ever went through.
- Cory Roush
Facebook is the same
- Jesse Stay
Bing is no longer the #2 search engine. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Mister IQ
Couldn't Open ID help that?
- Brian Allen
Didn't myspace have a process for this also?
- Jay McCormack
so registering TherealLeo (like Dvorak did) makes it legit? hang on.. ok kidding
- Chris Miller
We got our twitter account back, /sixflags
- sean andersen
Today I was followed by a fake Paul Thurrott. Where is the "Report" button?
- Greg Byrne
Tony didn't bring cupcakes.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken ROFL!
- Jesse Stay
Tony La Russo's 501c3: It's NOT about adoptions; it's about DONATIONS. Donations might be affected by something like a Twitter account, especially in the future.
- shelter watch
I guess this means Tony's not getting on the Featured users list
- Jesse Stay
@JasonC you look cute as Maverick! I say keep the look. You don't need the cigar, though.
- Lise
Lise: he needs a cap or something to finish the look
- Jay McCormack
600 people want an iPhone
- Jay McCormack
That's more than 140charcaters.
- Ken Sheppardson
he needs a jet
- zephyrlily
Bill Gates did talk about this at D5 tho, people forget
- Jackson Pollock
Natal can recognize 48 points of motion compared to the PS3's 2, plus you know Natal will work with Windows 7
- Matthew
Natal combined with the new controller Sony showed would be pretty slick.
- Ken Sheppardson
watch the Bill Gates and Steve Jobs interview from D5. Bill talked about it and was laughed out because people thought he meant the Wii interface
- Jackson Pollock
Shane Kim said that releasing Natal in the spring would be "aggressive". So they still have a year or more to work on it.
- Matthew
no, the eyetoy is not the same as Natal
- Matthew
Using the newer tech like this in an arcade environment with a wrap-around screen would be interesting
- Ken Sheppardson
That new PS3 controller demo Sony did was sweet!
- Scott Hubble
here's a video of the company MS acquired to work on Project Natal..... http://gear.ign.com/dor...
- Matthew
How long after release will it take for some Sicko to make Milo Naked
- Erle Stride
it's a video of their Z-Cam
- Matthew
The press has completely missed the navigation piece of Natal...did you see the minority report style menu conteol and the voice control of teh video playback?
- Rob
Wii's just integrating acceleration to get position. The Sony controller actually measures the position of the controller, doesn't it?
- Ken Sheppardson
I want 3D games with those controllers
- Jesse Stay
MS will put Natal on Windows as well, so Minority Report type interface is possible when this comes out
- Matthew
what if they added skype to xbox using natal
- Michael Mooney
Time to resurrect VRML :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Lindsay: Just create a post, and let people comment.
- Mister IQ
ah found the official court filing record of Tony La Russo against twitter
- Chris Miller
And an increase in feet through TV screens ensues
- Jesse Stay
nobody uses voice on the PS3 online games
- Matthew
How is that detecting body motion?
- zephyrlily
What's the state of the art in head-mounted displays these days?
- Ken Sheppardson
I think there's a lot of younger people wanting to play the Beatles
- Lise
anyone else having audio/video issues over the last 10 minutes?
- detorn
What about Alan Wake?
- nick
it's the software plus specialized chips in the device, zephyrlily
- Matthew
No, you might want to try refreshing or going to Stickam or uStream
- Mister IQ
James: fine here
- Jay McCormack
did all three IQ, tried different browser too
- detorn
eh, getting better, odd. thanks all
- detorn
I don't know then, you may have bandwidth issues or may need to reboot.
- Mister IQ
Scribblenauts sounds great for kids.
- Denise Howell
what game did Jeff mention?
- zephyrlily
you can also have dracula, and then write in vampire hunter and he will obviously kill dracula
- Matthew
scribblenauts
- Matthew
Scribblenauts looks amazing, I may have to check that out.
- Patrick Sullivan
Thanks, gotta look that one up
- zephyrlily
I typed Palm Pre into the demo and cash payment fell onto the screen
- Chris Miller
only iphone has motion controls
- Matthew
does the DS have an accelorometer?
- Matthew
DS can add a "motion pack" in its second slot, acts as one.
- Denise Howell
If you type in Twitter the Fail Whale comes up
- Jesse Stay
Is Scribblenauts for DS and DSi or just DSi?
- Mister IQ
The new DS only has one slot, no GBA slot
- Matthew
the DSi
- Matthew
I haven't bought DS games since I've had the iTouch
- zephyrlily
I love my iPod Touch, it is my first apple product
- Matthew
:-) Yes, it was a joke
- Jesse Stay
I'm so getting Scribblenauts.
- Filipe Rodrigues
I missed something. The game is... you write stuff, and stuff pops up?
- Ken Sheppardson
:-)
- Ken Sheppardson
i think so ken
- Chris Heath
Ken, yes, I believe - it supposedly has a huge database of objects
- Jesse Stay
kshep: It's a puzzle game where stuff helps you.
- Mister IQ
ken, it's like a platformer, and you can bring in whatever you want to help solve the levels/puzzles
- Matthew
Ah... gotcha
- Ken Sheppardson
You know what drives me mad! "Fall 09" as a release date. Just watched the scribblenauts video, says available Fall 09. 1: Fall = Autumn for me, 2: When is Autumn? Each hemisphere has autumn at different times of the year! Argghhhhh!
- Jay McCormack
"Fall" = Q4, IMHO
- Ken Sheppardson
jay McCormack, it means it will be available for the holidays
- Matthew
Matthew... again a problem. We have "holidays" throughout the year here.
- Jay McCormack
christmas time
- Matthew
it's a terminology thing: How hard is it to say Q4 2009.
- Jay McCormack
winter usually means early 2010, or whatever the case may be
- Matthew
You see my winter starts in April
- Jay McCormack
Yeah, but yours is wrong, Jay.
- Ken Sheppardson
i 'can' work it out, but it yet another US centric thing
- Jay McCormack
tom sets the record straight
- Chris Heath
It's broken.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: LOL
- Jay McCormack
yes, it's US centric
- Matthew
Upside down.
- Ken Sheppardson
jay q1 is winter january, feb, march
- Chris Heath
fall usually means in time for people to buy it for x-mas
- Matthew
You only think I'm Jesse Stay...
- Jesse Stay
Chris, q1 is Summer, Jan through March
- Jay McCormack
Q4 also means january
- Matthew
Sorry... i'll stop nw
- Jay McCormack
at least fiscally
- Matthew
jay, you must be in the southern hemisphere
- Chris Heath
Oh good lord, no
- Aaron T. Harvey
Chris: Australia
- Jay McCormack
Just say "Yes", Jason :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
ten-four
- Chris Heath
Chris: But i do live on planet earth.
- Jay McCormack
twip = this week in poker with host jason
- Chris Miller
Go Norm
- Jackson Pollock
NORM ! ! !
- Matthew
Jason was playing it up with all the celebrities out here at Sundance this year.
- Jesse Stay
Hey denise can i please ask you a question that you can ask the TWIT lovers for me?
- nathan
as in MacDonald
- Matthew
twia = this week in audible with your host Jason
- zephyrlily
who needs a punchline, when you have the world crackwh...
- Jackson Pollock
word*
- Jackson Pollock
Disclosures Jason? ;-)
- Jesse Stay
I think all the twit regulars get free audible accounts
- Jay McCormack
I'm a twit regular... oh, you mean on the show.
- Lise
ah - that would explain his enthusiasm. That said I like audible too.
- Jesse Stay
i don't know about that jay, leo may have got a few free accounts to give out
- Chris Heath
Lise: LOL
- Jay McCormack
They talked about it about 12 months ago i think.
- Jay McCormack
Turn It Up A Bit
- nanochrome
audible has been TWiT's best advertiser/sponsor
- Chris Heath
Bad mix Leo
- Roy Pledge
NOOOOOOOO
- Aaron T. Harvey
please, Jason does the worst Christopher Walken
- Matthew
Audible definitely lives up to the hype that Leo and friends put on it
- Doug
This is where we need Dvorak
- Aaron T. Harvey
it needs more cowbell
- zephyrlily
Christopher Walken should sue....
- Roy Pledge
don't quit your dayjob. you're no craig gass
- Jackson Pollock
he's no Jay Mohr
- Matthew
my god... calicanus reminds me of my father
- Jay McCormack
Turn It Up Leo
- nanochrome
Ricky Gervais too
- Simon Wicks
didn't hear that one Leo
- zephyrlily
Can't hear anything Leo!
- Colin Clarke
ustream is fine
- Chris Heath
Probably the channel he was doing caller audio on this morning.
- Ken Sheppardson
What about xp upgrade?
- Jay McCormack
Yeah
- nanochrome
I get the employee discount from my friend at Microsoft
- Jesse Stay
Much better in VM from our tests
- Chris Miller
Luckily You
- nanochrome
Windows 7 is awesome, can't see how Android would be that popular on netbooks
- Matthew
The $50 upgrade to Win7 was VERY encouraging.
- Cory Roush
Is it black shirt day today?
- zephyrlily
When is Microsoft just going to release a browser for the 360? I don't understand their holdback.
- Jesse Stay
Via Kiwinerd: Leo Screw You Ringtone: http://bit.ly/RLPox
- Mister IQ
Leo, the newest dashboard for the Xbox (NXE) lets you install your games to the hard drive, and it barely makes a sound. The fans don't make that much noise, it's the DVD drive that makes all the sound due to wanting short load times
- Matthew
The streaming HD on the TiVo Netflix interface is beautiful!
- Aaron T. Harvey
I think that ringtone should have Keyboard Cat as a backing track instead.
- Ken Sheppardson
yay FF
- Lise
Love ya Denise !
- Matthew
Nice to see you today Denise!
- Jesse Stay
Is there a good Iphone app for friendfeed ?
- Marcos Detry
Marcos: I haven't found one yet
- Jay McCormack
wooo @ everyone come in
- Lise
Everybody who has ever been on the show.
- Ken Sheppardson
The FriendFeed mobile site on the iPhone is good
- Aaron T. Harvey
Have a big giant party show!
- Mister IQ
@Marcos Nambu is free does FF and Twitter
- zephyrlily
why do I have to scroll back up to click comment.... am I missing something ?
- John Hillestad
ROFL!!!!
- Jesse Stay
what's Dans twitter? heh
- Lise
I'm dying here!
- Jesse Stay
LOL Screw you!
- Lise
awesome!
- Chris Heath
Needs Keyboard Cat in the background
- Ken Sheppardson
Too funny
- Roy Pledge
@Marcos: Have you tried BuddyFeed?
- Cory Roush
Keyboard Cat Remix http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ken Sheppardson
thanks zeph
- John Hillestad
lol arrington
- Lise
200th episode is on Father's Day!
- Doug Slater
Throw in Christian Bale
- Ken Sheppardson
I can't stop giggling
- Lise
I JUST POSTED the Calacanis Audible Love Dance...haha - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mike Bracco
I think Chritian Bale vs. Leo would remix pretty well...
- Ken Sheppardson
use Ustream Lindsay
- Matthew
nice show!
- Bill Frater
Starting to think this is a media stunt.
- Jay McCormack
Lindsay
- Matthew
Linsday: Can't you just hit 'enter'
- Jay McCormack
Keyboard cat plays Mike off on youtube
- zephyrlily
whoops, Lindsay you can hit enter
- Matthew
I'm out - gotta go kill a wasp nest (wife's yelling at me). See you guys later...
- Jesse Stay
It's not really a chat engine
- Aaron T. Harvey
I don't think Michael was the only person who was supposed to get a review unit Friday and didn't. I suspect there were logistical issues.
- Ken Sheppardson
It's stuck between real time chat and blog-type comments
- Aaron T. Harvey
A very large screen!
- Aaron T. Harvey
Go Jason; Pogue IS an embarrassment
- Jay McCormack
I heard that some of the Best Buy stores didn't even get the Pres in until Saturday afternoon
- Doug
ratings ratings ratings
- Chris Heath
Molly for the muthaflippin' win
- Matthew
Pogue and Buzz Out Loud - http://forums.cnet.com/5208-10...
- Ken Sheppardson
LOL @ jason C is in fact white
- Lise
lol
- ralphsaunders
LOL @ playing the tune so they can capture it for the youtube video
- Lise
Man Purse!
- Aaron T. Harvey
sorry
- Ken Sheppardson
hey-oo
- Chris Heath
heeheehheheeh
- ralphsaunders
140 likes. FF is TWiT country
- David Lloyd
burger king
- John Hillestad
make that one mroe :P
- ralphsaunders
Love the Show!!!
- Dante Repko
it needed a few F bombs
- John Hillestad
Leo, her name is Eileen not Elaine
- Colin Clarke
colin he does that sometimes...
- Chris Heath
colin, at least he's close
- Chris Heath
Lindsay: 9a Pacific, 12p Eastern
- Mister IQ
leo i have to leave for work a 8pm gmt will be finished
- Michael Mooney
thought Leo said 10 pst am
- John Hillestad
okay backpack
- Lise
The WWDC Keynote is at 10AM Pacific
- Ken Sheppardson
Chris , True.
- Colin Clarke
Is Pirillo gonna be there /
- John Hillestad
hopefully not
- David Lloyd
Well the calendar says 9a Pacific
- Mister IQ
there wont be a live video feed of the keynote
- David Lloyd
looks pretty fine
- John Hillestad
is this a green screen?
- David Lloyd
"The Apple Worldwide Developers Conference 2009 will kick off with a keynote address on Monday, June 8 at 10:00 a.m. A team of Apple executives, led by Phillip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing, will deliver the keynote address" -- http://developer.apple.com/wwdc...
- Ken Sheppardson
anyone watching twit live? is this a green screen shot or are they at WWDC?
- David Lloyd
I'd expect to see a bunch of liveblogging during the keynote, ala http://friendfeed.com/iphone-...
- Ken Sheppardson
looks good
- John Hillestad
im so confused lol
- David Lloyd
the footbally thing
- Lise
Leo, where will it be streamed?
- Matthew
6:00PM this evening for me :D
- ralphsaunders
LOL Leo
- Lise
HAHAHA @ the secret plan broadcast live
- Lise
Leo, i agree 5-star TWiT today
- Chris Heath
Great show Leo
- zephyrlily
what happened yesterday?
- mark pompeo
I am trying my best to learn how to use friendfeed but, I can't say I like friendfeed as much as leo does... here's to trying it again!
- flashtrader
Here's a q&d of Calacanis' jig with audio added http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Phil Maxwell
i like how it auto-updates
- Brian Harper
Great Show Leo!
- Eric B
That keyboard cat sure gets alot of work these days even in the afterlife
- siouxmoux
Glad to see one of the TRS guys on the show. TWiT gets better and better..oh and screw you Arrington!
- Ryan Tiffany
ready!
- Shannon Burns
All I can say..I don't use ringtones and I would use that screw you one...
- Samuel Lewis
from twhirl
Another great TWiT.
- Arawak
Leo WWDC FF please
- Erle Stride
if Jonathan didn't show up there, he won't at all unless there's a new category in the mac lineup at the end.
- Jackson Pollock
this dude is broadcasting live http://www.ustream.tv/channel...
- Jackson Pollock
it's like a kid having opened his first presents on christmas eve, saying; it's early, it's early, I have many left
- Jackson Pollock
People forget Lion, Liger, Tigon et
- Jackson Pollock
etc*
- Jackson Pollock
I am hearing them fine
- Jackson Pollock
Wow, 6GB freed space in Snow Leopard.
- Mister IQ
handwriting recognition for the trackpad
- Jackson Pollock
might mean tablet
- Jackson Pollock
That pretty much means tablet as far as I'm concerned. In terms of touch, the trackpad on a macbook is the same hardware as the iphone/possible mac tablet
- Jackson Pollock
Well, Quicktime has been the same for the last 3-4 versions more or less
- Jackson Pollock
That's not an Apple ad Leo
- Jackson Pollock
They're previewing quicklook
- Jackson Pollock
Guys that's not expose, that's quick look you were talking about.
- Trevor
Very not authorized.
- Jackson Pollock
I'm thinking it's $29. It is an incremental update
- Jackson Pollock
OPEN SOURCE. OPENCL
- Jackson Pollock
That's such a nice move. This will make it explode the way it should.
- Jackson Pollock
What they're saying is that they're an option to the Windows horror
- Jackson Pollock
$129
- Jackson Pollock
*$29
- Jackson Pollock
iPhone time
- Jackson Pollock
here is working stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel...
- Jackson Pollock
Yes, 50k "apps" - *cough*
- Trevor
video about streaming video on iphone going on right now
- Jackson Pollock
@Jackson Thanks:) just started watching it
- zephyrlily
the Jokemaster Jr
- Jackson Pollock
NOW here we go
- Jackson Pollock
there we go
- Jackson Pollock
Price? no price. It uses your phone data plan
- Jackson Pollock
Later this summer he said
- Jackson Pollock
And that's why they laughed
- Jackson Pollock
Its also streaming on twit.tv with Leo on
- zephyrlily
yes correct
- Jackson Pollock
hey it's R2D2
- Jackson Pollock
to 10k people? don't think so
- Jackson Pollock
riiiight. everyone has an iphone, sure
- Jackson Pollock
but not a impluasible situation. look at what collages are doing with the Kindle DX
- Roberto Bonini
look what 0.5% of colleges in the US only are doing
- Jackson Pollock
here comes the 20 minute demoes
- Jackson Pollock
The WWDC chat is here http://friendfeed.com/twit-co...
- Ken Sheppardson
You know, you guys were nagging Apple like this last year. You wanted 3G, you wanted GPS bla bla. Now you're poo-pooing GPS and saying that there is zero coverage of 3G in the US. The beauty of the iPhone is the lack of a continual need for hardware updates. The functionality is not tied to the phone. Every version of the phone has the same functionality, only with different specs
- Jackson Pollock
twit.am is down?
- Dave
Yikes, are the streams down?
- Mister IQ
Test Driving the Tesla Roadster on Vimeo - http://www.vimeo.com/4711714
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Daniel Rowley, friday night, Jason PH and 10 other people liked this
I think we saw them making this video last week. We stopped at the Tesla store in Menlo Park for some reason, and there was this guy wearing a Reddit t-shirt and filming the cars. I thought maybe he works for Conde-Nast, but apparently he's just someone who likes Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r...
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
made me think of John Carmack's remark, "Your right foot is really an 'accelerator' rather than a 'throttle,' and it honestly transforms the driving experience" (bottom of http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n...)
- Karim
Yeah, if anyone has one and wants to let me borrow it, let me know :)
- Paul Buchheit
He was doing this for the government? Not something I would think of being a government job or a good use of taxpayer money.
- Mitch
God, I want one of these! Even test driving one would be enough. I hope Tesla can bring these to a broad market.
- Brandon Titus
Seems like promoting alternative energy devices is a great use of taxpayer money, and it's not like they spent a lot of money on the shoot.
- Kevin Fox
Was he promoting alternative energy or was he promoting a car company? It didn't seem very informative to me. It felt like a video trying to make me envious of cool technology. If they want to promote the technology, do so with a company who's consumer good is more accessible.
- Mitch
I love that zip sound!
- April Buchheit
Mitch, the first automobiles, televisions, computers, etc weren't very accessible either. Technology usually starts off expensive and gets cheaper with time, but that early, high-end market helps get it established and develop economies of scale.
- Paul Buchheit
Mitch, unfortunately, imo they are too expensive to be catering to a really broad consumer audience. It's for people who like cool new technology/cars (car early adopters!). I agree, they will need to make the product more accessible but I don't think selling is a problem for them right now, it's trying to bring the cost down to a reasonable level and growing the company.
- Brandon Titus
Mitch, "State Department’s Bureau of International Information Programs (IIP) engages international audiences on issues of foreign policy, society and values to help create an environment receptive to U.S. national interests." (from America.gov) this video is an advertisement for America aimed at foreigners. it *is* trying to make you envious, but of the United States. :-D
- Karim
The Tesla must be selling very nicely by the way. Apparently the wait to get one is about 7 months, and the people there had about zero interest in talking to us (except to tell April to not mess with their cars).
- Paul Buchheit
A Tesla should be the de-facto awards for entrepreneurs who cash out. If I sell my company, ever, then I will buy me one of these.
- Akshay Dodeja
What's your definition of "selling very nicely" Paul? Their entire production run is 1500 for the whole year.
- Gabe
Yeah, perhaps I reached the wrong conclusion. Maybe they just aren't very good at building them. How many are they planning to build next year?
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, part of the holdup might be Lotus building the chassis. According to http://www.carpages.co.uk/lotus..., they only make about 4500 a year.
- Gabe
It appears Facebook's OpenID doesn't fully support delegated accounts... instead it links to the OpenID (nondelegated) provider.
Akshay Dodeja liked this
That is probably a good thing.
- Akshay Dodeja
How generations change: my son, tonight, after seeing something new from Google told the team "I'm not like my dad, I don't have a web site."
Milton Ramirez, Hutch Carpenter, Dobromir Hadzhiev and 71 other people liked this
This is from a 15-year-old who is very expert with world of warcraft, has a MySpace page, a Twitter account, a friendfeed account, is very active on Mac Rumors, etc.
- Robert Scoble
He is on more of the Internet than probably 9 out of 10 humans alive and he defines himself to a Google team by not owning a web site. Interesting.
- Robert Scoble
you should make one for him.
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Making websites is time consuming and, in my opinion, not necessary if you simply need a place to publish to the web, talk with friends and get yourself out there.
- Brandon Titus
Renting vs owning in real estate terms?
- Micah
Alfredo: the unspoken message is that his generation doesn't need a web site. They'll still be a major part of the Internet.
- Robert Scoble
Its the same with my younger relatives... They have a far more natural approach to the new media "So do you kids use the Internet regulary?" - "No..... Not that much?" - "So what do you do when you go online" - "facebook, youtube, myspace, for school, for work..." - "how often do you check facebook?" - "hmmm few times A day"
- Andreas Klinger
How many teenagers want to (admit to) be like their dad?
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
It took me back to how I found my doctor. She's #1 on Yelp but yet had never been there. The world is changing and it no longer is only about having a website.
- Robert Scoble
Rob: there's some of that in what he was trying to say, yes. His generation wants to be "more with it" than the previous. But I think there's something deeper going on. The 2010 Web isn't about owning a web site anymore.
- Robert Scoble
He'll change his tune when someone with his name does something controversial and it's #1 on Google.
- Mark
Sounds like the teenager asked by Don Tapscott ("Wikinomics") about why she was not using email to communicate with friends. Reply: "Hmm ... email. That would be the sort of thing you'd use to send a thank you letter ... to your friend's ... parents!"
- John W Lewis
Mark: have you checked how fast friendfeed items are showing up on Google lately? I have. You don't need a blog or a web site to be on Google anymore.
- Robert Scoble
John: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
I think that domains will become mostly for business and the like while personal profiles will be controlled by social networks, profile sites (Google profiles) etc.
- Brandon Titus
@Robert maybe - or maybe it's about owning an identity you control which may indeed look like a website but function as an identity broker owned by the user
- Chris Saad
Some one still has to create the websites though. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Can I get out of making a website for my teenage son with these arguments?
- Anita Hunt
Chris: translation: own a Facebook profile. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
But does the _you_ own the Facebook profile?
- Micah
Your son has probably realized that most personal websites are never seen.
- Trine Curtis
I too agree that the new generations do not need a web site. What they need instead is a presence on this Interweb. This can be achieve in many other more effective means than a personal web site; in the traditional sense.
- Vinko
I have more ego than he. I'll be damned if I'm going to let Facebook own me and my profile. meh.
- Karoli
If you want to seed control of the social web to facebook then sure. Or maybe the next generation identity hub will be as distributed and open as a web-server
- Chris Saad
Micah makes a good point about renting vs owning. Also, some people just want communication, others will want permanence (that they own and control). I still suspect that as new generations age they will still want to create more of a legacy on their own domains.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Or does Facebook own it (in the possession is 9/10 of the law sense)
- Micah
It's the difference between having a web presences and a website... Just because I don't own my home doesn't mean I'm not a citizen.
- Johnny
Chris: his real identity is on MySpace. That's where his friends hang out and he's asked me not to link to his MySpace profile. Why not? Cause then all "my friends" will show up there. :-)
- Robert Scoble
It's all about getting the most out of the web. If your own website doesn't do it but a Facebook profile does, then by all means don't do your own website. Marketing still isn't dead though - act on results.
- Jesse Stay
It was never about having a website. It never will be. It will always will be using the right tools to reach the right people. People that you care about and people that care about you.
- Akshay Dodeja
The new generation's presence on the web will be fluid. They will not have one place where they blog, post photos or share their thoughts. It will transform as the technology transform.
- Vinko
Akshay: exactly. That was his message to me. Plus there was a tinge of "that blogging thing is so dead." Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
MySpace, Facebook, these are all nice walled gardens like AOL before them - but eventually the rest of the web will become just as rich and inviting as the walled gardens - and not because Facebook Connect.
- Chris Saad
Facebook Connect is a great proof of concept, but the real solution will be based on open standards just like the web is based on TCP/IP and HTTP
- Chris Saad
Chris: Facebook will be forced to open up. Why? Because Google will show them the money is in search and to do search, even in the real time web, you need to open up.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, sounds like there's an opportunity to show him why it could be useful, if not now, perhaps in the future for him.
- Jesse Stay
We'll be ripe for a backlash in a few years, especially if services don't keep moving in the direction of data portability.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Robert: I have tried to many times to start a blog. Failed each and every time. Now I am trying different things and its working in some ways :)
- Akshay Dodeja
Actually it's friendfeed that's going to show them that, but Google will be recognized by most of the world and Google definitely is moving to make sure that they are a player in the real time web.
- Robert Scoble
No Facebook will open up because Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and others are working actively to dilute their lock on the social graph. It's in google's interest to continue to erode Facebooks monopoly so they can continue to index the social web
- Chris Saad
Chris: sorry, that's a side show. The real action is going to happen in search. Or, something associated with filtered display.
- Robert Scoble
The community has an opportunity to work with the 'loosers' and the startups to ensure that we don't crown a new king, but rather to push the web as the ultimate platform
- Chris Saad
Facebook only competes with Google on the private web. Until they offer indexed, public search they will never be able to compete side-by-side with Google. They only offer a subset of what Google provides right now.
- Jesse Stay
Awesome to see this conversation in "real time"
- David Damore
Chris: the REAL money is NOT on the social graph. I can see this so clearly. Very few can, though.
- Robert Scoble
@robert the real money is (imho) not in search but in knowing about the user - search is just yet the best way to know about him/her - facebook could deliever social enhanced adwords to the internet
- Andreas Klinger
I'm not arguing about that - but if Facebook was left unchecked then they could own the new social search and monetizing the user not the page. That's why Google will work hard to erode Facebook's monopoly to ensure they stay in the game
- Chris Saad
Andreas: that's what search looks like in the future.
- Robert Scoble
Chris: true, but Google is NOT going to leave Facebook unchecked. Facebook needs to move much faster than it is, actually.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert the real value is in the stream and being able to index it - which Google can't do with the Facebook feed
- Chris Saad
Users are not monetizeable, by the way. Intent and other "about to consume" gestures are. I want an icecream is monetizeable. Eating an ice cream is not.
- Robert Scoble
Eating chocolate icecream every wed IS
- Chris Saad
It means you like dairy, chocolate and sweets on wed
- Chris Saad
APML.org
- Chris Saad
@ Chris Saad: +1
- David Damore
@Robert "i know you could now want an ice cream" is worth even more imho
- Andreas Klinger
Chris: that's an "about to consume" gesture. Agreed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
The real value is in being able to index the *entire* web, and knowing each user that is searching that entire web. Facebook isn't anywhere near being able to do that.
- Jesse Stay
Andreas: or, if you are Gary Vaynerchuk you can make me want a merlot-flavored ice cream. That's worth the most. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: :)
- Andreas Klinger
Jesse: Facebook has an index that Google can't get to and it pisses off Google.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert Look forward to debating this with u in person tmr at 6pm
- Chris Saad
Isn't the idea of social profiles a search to figure out what a user wants next, now? Like how people visit car websites before buying an automobile?
- David Damore
Robert, Google has many indexes Facebook can't get to as well - Gmail, Orkut, Docs, Apps, many more...
- Jesse Stay
But wait, surely he does have a web site, a blog, etc.? They are his Facebook page!
- John W Lewis
@Jesse which is why Google, Yahoo, Microsoft etc are still in the game - the notion that 'Facebook has won' is just valley hype
- Chris Saad
With the kind of information that Google is tracking isn't Google in the best place to monetize our conversations?
- Vinko
There are 2 things we're talking about here - the "private web" and the "public web". Facebook has one. Google has both.
- Jesse Stay
No we're talking about the document web vs. the Social web :)
- Chris Saad
Chris, Google has both of those as well.
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse agreed - Google is still going very strong - and should/will buy FF and Twitter to strengthen their position
- Chris Saad
I dont like facebook, to me its a lot of social drama...
- sergio luna
Jesse: Google's Infos about the Socialgraphs are too fuzzy. Gmail is like my telephone calllist - not my telephone adressbook
- Andreas Klinger
Chris, or, just strengthen one of their existing products to compete. Google Chat stands out to me.
- Jesse Stay
Andreas you should see my Google Voice address book. It wouldn't take much to connect that all together.
- Jesse Stay
@Andreas Google's graphs are super active. Noise for google = pointers to the signal - that's what they do best
- Chris Saad
Short question: am i the only one thinking that Social Widgets (Facebook Apps at external Sites) combined with an Advert System is an most interesting thing to come ?
- Andreas Klinger
@Jesse their best bet is Gmail and Address book integrated with FriendFeed
- Chris Saad
I don't like Facebook either. Now people I thought I'd left behind 20 years ago are finding me again. Yay. But more importantly, someone said ice cream.
- Trine Curtis
Jesse: Yet, in my network, Skype Chat is much more widely used than Google Chat.
- John W Lewis
Chris, agreed - there's a reason Facebook, Twitter, and FriendFeed all let you import your Gmail contacts. They want Google's private web.
- Jesse Stay
@Andreas No you're not - If Facebook owns the social graph/stream then they will try to own the widgets and ad units - that's why the rest of the web needs to provide a viable alternative so that there is no new monopoly.
- Chris Saad
I think that Google will strengthen it's social system by bringing in contact finding through the social graph from services like FriendFeed, Twitter, and maybe Facebook and clearing out the noise. Their contact manager or whatever will be strengthened once they have a real Google Chat, Google Voice, and Gmail working together.
- Brandon Titus
I love coming over to FriendFeed to always see an amazingly active thread going on in the Scobleverse!!
- Jason Pollock
in my network microsoft msn is the leader...neither skype or google chat are as strong
- sergio luna
John, I'm talking about strength of the social graph in each one. Skype doesn't hold a finger to Google's contacts.
- Jesse Stay
All of these platforms have their advantages - the point is they are all social services and should inter operate for the benefit of the user - and benefit the bottom line of the companies that make it happen
- Chris Saad
Sergio, agreed - Microsoft also has a very big potential to compete. I'd say they're more a threat to Google than Facebook right now in this area.
- Jesse Stay
(Meta-point: this conversation IS the live web in action, but how does it scale? What happens to the quality of conversation if the rate of commenting on this topic exceeds my reading speed?)
- John W Lewis
Then again, in the competition for people, once you're indexing every person with web access, you also have access to their lives, websites, and personal data. That's much more powerful than an anonymous index of every website on the planet. Facebook could have a chance.
- Jesse Stay
This conversation is a byproduct of the the live web - but it's not much more than an indexable chatroom. The status updates and feeds that generate this conversation are the real interesting part
- Chris Saad
@Jesse that's Facebook's play - and that's why Google and others are working to dilute the monopoly (a monopoly of mindshare at least) - that's why the community at large has an opportunity to support an open approach
- Chris Saad
During times of change, we have an opportunity to ensure the outcome is open - open means innovation can surge ahead at the nodes instead of being controlled by a central authority
- Chris Saad
Chris, at the same time indexing each individual rather than website could be more advantageous in the end. Google's not doing that quite as well as Facebook. That's not to say they won't, and they're definitely making progress at the moment. Google doesn't necessarily publish what they're tracking about you. Facebook does, via the live stream when you log in - which is more open per se?
- Jesse Stay
For an interesting look at the cross-section of marketing / customer behaviour (mostly off-line, but the web is part of the story) and obsession, check out this documentary on contesters ("professional" contest participants) - just saw it on a plane ride http://www.cbc.ca/doczone... [Interestingly, when I searched for this documentary, I found the guy who pitched the...
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- Micah
Jesse by this argument is google "publically tracking for you that you publish your webpage"
- Andreas Klinger
I'm checking out guys - nice chat :)
- Chris Saad
Jesse, its just different type of technology you use - Stream.put or Ftp.put
- Andreas Klinger
History will repeat! I started with email on CompuServe and did not communicate with others on other services, then discovered "internet mail". As with hardware, software, email and now social media, the architecture of vertical silos will gradually transform into horizontal layers ... from below! Only then does the "network effect" really start!
- John W Lewis
Andreas, do you know everything Google has tracked about you? What about all the Analytics tracking on each website you visit combined with data they've learned about you elsewhere? With Google, there's no way to opt-out without just killing your internet connection. At least with Facebook, it's opt-in. Google, IMO, has the potential to be much more evil than Facebook. That is, unless Facebook enters the open web arena.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, this tracking is not public on facebook neither
- Andreas Klinger
Jesse, true Google is big enough to pass the last frontier point of relationship to reality
- Andreas Klinger
Andreas, I know almost everything Facebook is tracking on me because they at least publish most of it via my stream. True, I don't know everything, but I know a lot. Not only that but they give me controls on what they can do with what they're tracking. I can't do that with Google.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, the stream info is your active part not your passive part
- Andreas Klinger
Jesse anyway i think we are talking about the same :)
- Andreas Klinger
Ok gotta go for a slow-real-life Meeting - cya!
- Andreas Klinger
I really think its not about who will conquer what i.e. google, facebook, etc... I really believe all this players are the basics, like the old economic scheme, I think we are going to evolve and use all this sites & technology in a very diverse and sophisticated form, kind of like what the brand Starbucks is to the old industry of coffee. google, facebook etc. are the industrial plants of our new digital era.
- sergio luna
Andreas, agreed, but I can still opt in to Facebook. I can't opt-in or opt-out of Google completely. I'm just saying it's not all about "open" like Google would like you to think. That's just their Marketing play, and we're all falling for it.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, 100% agree
- Andreas Klinger
Are we forgetting something? Facebook, Google, ... ARE websites. It is just about the level at which we engage. I do not need to build my own car to drive on the road; I can buy one, it is cheaper. But if I buy a Lamborghini or Porsche, I can still interact (inc. collide!) with you in your Mercedes! (For the public record, I drive an Audi.) Robert recently posted about geek disconnect, these guys are making the web consummable.
- John W Lewis
So we've finally found the one person in the world who doesn't want to friend you on FB!
- Rebecca Rachmany
Websites are so 1990s
- Stephen Pickering
Makes me feel better for not updating my website anymore - I'm not behind, I'm ahead :D
- Iphigenie
"I don't have a web site" indeed. My kids were not interested in learning how to create websites. "We have blogs on our cell phones." Well, then...
- Rick Cogley
your son's approach doesn't sound as absurd as it might seem at first. look at skittles, who dropped their website and transfered everything to twitter! and i was just thinking the other day about an ngo-website i'm involved in and why not moving it completely over to a facebook page.
- Johannan Edelman
What was here?
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facebook
- Ken Sheppardson
ET
- ThinkEzy
And a Bonsai tree http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Ken Sheppardson
a portal
- Jordan Brock
'they' were here...they're still here....don't go into the light!
- WoH: Minding her Steves
History...
- Akshay Dodeja
Stargate?
- Sue Radd
LOL! (oh, wait, Ken was serious)
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
What the hell it is?
- Akiva
Former Neuron Data building first. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
It'd be interesting to take a building like this and see the timeline of all the businesses that have passed through it. When they started, when they moved in, when they moved out, where they are today. I mention Neuron Data 'cause of this: http://ascher.ca/blog...
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd say that's a safe bet, Chris :-) BTW, the building in question: http://www.loopnet.com/156-Uni... If you scroll down you'll find a link to Facebook's other space at 164 Hamilton: 10,395 SF, asking $8.5M http://www.loopnet.com/propert...
- Ken Sheppardson
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Congratulations, Paul & Jessica!! Welcome to the world, George!
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Born at 04:44 on Saturday, 1/24. 8lbs. 10oz.
- April Buchheit
That's a big baby!
- Paul Buchheit
Yeah! That's almost twice Thomas's birth weight and 7lbs. more than Camilla's.
- April Buchheit
Congrats!
- Daniel Ha
Congratulations, Jessica and Paul! Its a great, fun ride :)
- Toby DiPasquale
Yay! Congrats!
- Akshay Dodeja
Congratulations!
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Congrats!!
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Congrats!!
- Danish Khan
Congratulations!
- Paul Bohm
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- Robby Walker
I will discuss why I can never have another Diet Coke here:
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My dad has a degenerative kidney disease. They don't know what causes it. But he's slowed it down by changing his diet. Today I was diagnosed with the same disease. Turns out I can't eat red meat anymore and I can't have coke or Diet Coke in it either. I'm in early stages, according to doctor, but says changing diet might help, especially since it helped my dad.
- Robert Scoble
what happened?
- Akshay Dodeja
I think it makes him pee.
- Mona Nomura
don't leave us in suspense!
- Bryce Roney
Is that brb or brp?
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Sweetener debacle?
- Mo Kargas
Remember: not every bathroom comes with a built-in Tweetmachine.
- David Feng
This is interesting. Please tell us!
- Keith Neisler
I had to quit because it got hard to remember my name!
- Reed Porter
That's an interesting thing to entice us with...now where's the finish?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Cogent with a touch of brevity.
- Bill Romanos
Doctor says my kidneys are working about half of what a normal person's is. He's already done tons of tests to make sure it's not some really bad disease. My dad's had this condition for decades.
- Robert Scoble
Ow. Whoops. Sorry to hear that. (I think I should cut Coke my end too.)
- David Feng
Saccharin makes you vanish?
- Jose Castillo
I also should avoid all red meat and many dairy products including ice cream. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
"might" is the dr.'s word for who konws, so enjoy your life and don't worry unless they're definitive
- Bob Sonin
A very big change in your eating habits. Good luck, Robert. I'm sure you can do it.
- Yolanda
That doesnt sound good at all. Lets hope its not as bad as it sounds.
- Akshay Dodeja
Robert - sorry to hear about your diagnosis. Please, take are of yourself.
- Mona Nomura
Oh no. Ice cream. My fave during the Summer... (Beijing has this hidden ability to fry people alive come May already. 100F, anyone?)
- David Feng
@Robert: I'm sorry to hear this. I hope you are able to find some substitutes for your diet. Switching off meat is possible (ask some vegans) but be sure to talk with a nutritionist to ensure your protein intake remains controlled (one of the biggest problems). Good luck with this.
- Andrew Leyden
Anything with lots of protein, like beef, lamb, pork are to be avoided. Anything with phosphorus like nuts, beans, milk, cheese, ice cream, yogurt, and coke/pepsi are to be avoided. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
I knew a diabetic who was sometimes hit by an overwhelming feeling of being deprived...probably more than he would feel if he avoided certain foods by free choice. Does that happen with you? If so and I meet you in person I'll be sensitive to that.
- Bruce Lewis
Ahh yeah, since he got diagnosed my doctors have been watching the protein in my urine. I've been on blood pressure medication for a while because of it, which seems to help a lot. Bummer that they didn't catch yours sooner, bro.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
At least you won't get Mad Cow Disease. In all seriousness though, I'm really sorry to hear about that, Scoble.
- Dean Gebert
diet soda hasn't really ever made sense to me anyway, just drink something else if you can't have regular soda ya know? well do what you gotta do scoble, its not your life, its your family's
- David
Sorry to hear it, my friend. All the best with adapting to this with change of diet.
- John McCrea
DO NOT WANT! Yogurt! My absolute favorite! Oh my God I feel so bad and so sorry for you Robert.
- David Feng
I'm sorry to hear that, Robert.
- David Cook
Sorry to hear about it, Robert. Hopefully, the diet modification will help.
- D. Lambert
Avoid ice-cream?! Meat? Please get a second opinion.
- Mo Kargas
It sounds mostly harmless but good luck with it!
- Andrew
That totally sucks, Robert! I don't think I could live without Coca Cola and meat and dairy products.
- Chris Charabaruk
Sorry to hear Robert. At least it is manageable. Good thing is ... you only need about 1/4 of *one* kidney to survive. I should know, my daughter was born with only one kidney. LOTS of research!
- AJ Kohn
Robert, it's great that they're catching this now, so you have time to make changes. Food changes will be hard, I'm sure, especially because of restaurant food. Take care of yourself. @LPH is doing a similar type of weaning from meat, soda, etc. but for cholesterol reasons. You can commiserate ;), but I don't suggest following his chili spaghetti - talk to Mom about recipes, not Layne lol
- Lora Heiny
Mo: I already have a second opinion. My dad was told by his doctor to avoid the same things. By the way, it's not the artificial sweeteners in Diet Coke that are bad. I can't have regular Coke either. It's made with phosphoric acid which turns into phosphorous. Turns out that's bad for your kidney. Of course I've been drinking tons of Coke and Diet Coke for decades.
- Robert Scoble
Best of luck Robert!
- Chris Rossini
wow Robert. Sorry to hear about this. Hope you can work around the diet limitations and stay healthy.
- Justin Korn
That just seems to leave beer and sushi. Could be worse ;)
- Dennis Howlett
Dennis: and Scotch! :-) Oh, wait, that kills your liver. Can't win at this game anyway. Might as well have fun! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, sorry to hear this. If the diet has made a difference to your Dad, it made well help you too as these things can definitely be hereditary.
- Sally Church
Sally: my dad is worse. He can't eat anything that has lots of potassium, like bananas.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry to hear that, but glad to hear that there's something that can help. Also glad that there's every chance you can get a head start on keeping your kids healthier, too. Good luck.
- Linda Mills
Yes, all carbonated stuff kills the kidneys. And red meat. Byproduct: you will lose weight.
- Francine Hardaway
I'm addicted to Pepsi and/or Coke. Quit drinking it about 18 months ago and have to say there have been numerous health benefits. Still want a coke pretty much every day, but it's just not worth it. I know change sucks but you WILL feel better. Well, wait, I don't know the ramifications of your degenerative kidney disease so I should say I hope you feel better. Keep positive, remember you're loved, and tell yourself Diet Coke is "yucky!"
- tracy
Glad this got caught early for you and that you can make a lifestyle change to help address it. Our lives are pretty fragile when you think about it, no?
- Kevin C. Tofel
tracy: yeah, I hear you. It's going to be tough. But ice cream? Damn. In-N-Out? I love that stuff! Oh well.
- Robert Scoble
I'm in the early stages of giving up Diet Coke (which I've been on now for a few years after giving up Coke). It's rough because I do miss the taste and I think plain water just sucks. I wonder how many computer folks really drink too much of this stuff?
- Andrew Leyden
Kevin: exactly. My life changed one afternoon when a lady hit my car and my car overturned. Made me realize that every day could be our last. Party hard! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Is it called FSGS? Mind sharing the diet with me? I know someone who has FSGS and it sounds like it might help! Thanks! (ann.finnie@hp.com)
- Ann Finnie
Andrew: Diet Coke (or Pepsi) is a staple of a majority of geeks world wide.
- Robert Scoble
Diet Coke me.
- tony
Ann: they don't know what it is. My dad had lots of tests and they couldn't figure it out.
- Robert Scoble
Did you ask your doc if a diuretic, like in blood pressure meds, would help?
- Francine Hardaway
The bright side: in about 3 months, you'll probably be in the best shape of your life and you'll feel 10 years younger. You may as well go vegan and seek out vegan recipes/foods.
- Paul Reynolds
Francine: since my dad was helped with diet changes, I bet that will help me too. My condition is pretty stable, this stuff happens over decades. Anyway, I have low blood pressure and always have.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry to hear it, Robert. I switched to Diet Coke years ago and now I'm trying to cut it out as well. Good luck with the diet changes and your health! One of my favorite quotes: Take care of your body. It's the only place you have to live. --Jim Rohn
- Carmen wBabby
hi scoble, sorry to hear about your diagnosis. Diet changes can definitely help esp. if it's early; will slow the degenerative process. Something to consider, you may find qigong beneficial in strengthening your system. Sending you good energy!
- Antonia Teixeira
Pfft. I can beat that. You up for a game of degenerative disease top trumps Robert? Stay well in the meantime.
- mattpovey
Sucks Robert, take care of yourself, but no red meat? What a life!
- Mark Trapp
sorry to hear. best wishes managing your condition
- mashable
Robert, this is a shock. How did they find out you had this? Were there any symptoms that clued them in or did they do a ton of tests? i'm a Mountain Dew junkie and eat lots of red meat......and i smoke. But I'm happy. Wish you luck man!
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Mark, yeah, sucks. I like hamburgers. That's going to be tough to give up. Mashable: thanks.
- Robert Scoble
slayerboy: I had higher than normal creatinine levels. My dad said to be on the lookout for that. Then they did a bunch of tests to make sure I didn't have some weird and deadly disease.
- Robert Scoble
I HEAR YOU CAN POUR COKE INTO YOUR TOILET, IT MAKES A GREAT TOILET BOWL CLEANER! sorry caps. not shoutin...
- Karin Hiebert
I've seen 2 great pointers for those wanting to eat healthier: if your grandmother wouldn't recognize it - don't eat it (strange but true) & do your shopping on the outer rim of the grocery store - fresh produce, bakery, fresh meats etc. Best of luck!
- MicahBear78
The question I have is this: Is it better to live a long, healthy life and be miserable trying to be healthy or to live a short, unhealthy life but be the happiest person on earth? Yes, this sucks, but in the end it's all about what makes you happy. Doctors have been wrong before. Obviously if this is causing you pain, it's better to change to healthy stuff so you can live happier. Everyone needs to evaluate what makes them happy, each person is unique.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
for people curious about food substitutes that Robert is talking about: http://www.kidney.org/atoz...
- Lora Heiny
Robert, my prayers are with you. I know from personal experience that it is amazing what diet change can accomplish. We are indeed "...Fearfully and wonderfully made". Be encouraged. And Boca burgers are not bad at all. ;) btw- I wanted to add that I had to be on Macro for 5 years and a 14 day rotation diet before that. You CAN change your body chemistry and organs have been known to heal. In my own case, I came back from jaundice and very bad adrenals which put a hardship on my kidneys.
- Melanie Reed
slayerboy: the problem with this disease is it doesn't kill you. It makes you go on dialysis when you're older. So, I have to decide whether I want to take steps to put that off. I do.
- Robert Scoble
Really sorry, Robert. They don't know what causes FSGS either, but it scars the kidneys and reduces their function over time.
- Ann Finnie
Robert - Soda is a small sacrifice. I don't drink it... quit completely about 15 years ago. Red meat... well that would be more troublesome for me. Take care of yourself.
- Brian Roy
Lora: I love the Internet. One reason I talked about this is so you'd all slap my hands if you saw me breaking the rules at a conference. Damn, I love my morning coffee with milk, too. Grrr. I might be grumpy for a while.
- Robert Scoble
a blessing in disguise. once you stabilize the change in diet you will never be or feel healthier. the pepsi and cokes of the world are poison. drink water instead of coke and eat sorbetto (sorbet) instead of ice cream...and fall in love with seafood while your at it. mark your weight when you switch up your diet and in a week you will see 3-5lbs shaved off without you doing anything else.
- Carlos Ayala
Robert, sorry to hear about your condition here as well. I was diagnosed with GERD several years back, and diet cured it, but I know this isn't anything like GERD. If I can help in any way let me know - you're in my thoughts. Best wishes Robert.
- Jesse Stay
So sorry to hear that Robert.A raw food diet could really help. Check out http://thesunnyrawkitchen.blogspot.com/
- Gemma Craven
i'm sorry to hear that. you could retain carbonated satisfaction with home-made soda flavored in various ways. there are a few flavors (my secret recipes, but you can have them if you like) i'd take over cola any time! best wishes.
- idnan
Robert: lol definitely. You watch out for peanuts in food for me already - now, we watch out for milk products for you :) At least you can have non-dairy creamer -- oooh and popcorn ;)
- Lora Heiny
Robert, I can empathise with you and your Dad since I nearly lost a kidney as a child. It still struggles sometimes and also gets sore so yeah, I have to drink lots of water, avoid fizzy drinks and artificial sweeteners etc. No bananas or salty foods is the hardest for me.
- Sally Church
robert... positive vibes your direction. my aunt has Coeliac/Celiac disease (she can't eat wheat) and it was tough at first, but your eating habits will become normal to you eventually. Keep your chin up!
- Chris Heath
Sorry to hear. Best of luck to you!!
- Ted Louie
I'm so sorry to hear this, I don't know how serious that is, but I'm hoping it's something that can be corrected with the change. I'm sympathetic too. Giving up things "forever" is incredibly hard, even when necessary. Too bad there aren't patches or gum to wean you off the D.C. (I have the same addiction). I wish you the best in the new, healthy lifestyle you have ahead of you.
- Sarah Perez
Sorry to hear that, but at least it sounds like you have time to deal with it. Your hand could get pretty sore from several thousand people slapping it! I think that might be incentive enough! Or tweet slaps, that might crash Twitter!
- Chris Mayer
Scoble, I'm sorry to hear about this. Glad that you caught it early and glad that you don't seem to be to down about it. I like your attitude, many people would say F' it and just continue to eat how they were before. So well done. If you blog tweet all your meals for a while it may work as a good support system? I'd yell at you if you want me to when I see cokes or red meats.... :) best of luck my friend.
- ryangraves
so sorry to hear about this. i hope the adjustment in diet helps and isn't too terribly difficult to get accustomed to.
- mario anima
I'm sorry to hear about this Robert. Thanks goodness those are the only two things they took away from you. It still leaves you with many other options. Better to look at the glass half full. ; ) I hope your new diet helps.
- Adriana
Bad news - sorry to hear about that. Early detection/treatment is so important. Be glad you caught it early. Hopefully diet keeps everything under control.
- Bryan Duke
Ryan: hah, we all have a death sentence. It does no good to worry about this stuff. In fact, I am pretty sure that worrying makes it all worse.
- Robert Scoble
Thank God u found out for starters. Second, there is so much progress these days who knows what info is just around the corner,Three, you have so much energy and will that u bring to life-that is huge. Finally, think about accupuncture as a support. I know that it has helped many people with very serious problems. More positive vibes!
- frankiecarl
Awwww that sucks! :(
- Brandy Lea
I understand Robert, it seems you've done your research on this. Sounds like a very hard decision to make. I don't think it will be all bad for you though, as Carlos says it may serve to improve your health in the long run. It may even serve to open up your food choices, and help you experience a wider range of foods. Wishing you all the best mate
- Mo Kargas
Thanks for helping to cement my decision to eliminate soft drinks from my daily routine. It's been one month as of today. As others have mentioned, it will likely turn out to be a blessing in disguise with you ending up feeling healthier and dropping some weight if you eliminate all soft drinks.
- maczter
Mo: I like all foods except for eggplant, so finding something to eat won't be a problem. It's just they took away some of my favorites. I will deal. A lot of people have a lot worse. At least I can still hang out with @garyvee! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Just watch that liver Robert ;-) Enjoy what you can, though.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: if I hang out with you and Louis my liver will be fine. My kidney, on the other hand... :-)
- Robert Scoble
Once again, FF needs a comment button at the bottom of the comments... I started the year off not eating anything from cow as part of a diet plan. Good luck. Be sure you replace the Iron intake.
- Gus
You're being proactive, which is great. I'm reading up on your food list so next time we meet at a conference or wherever we can help keep the food straight. :-)
- Loren Heiny
Ok, Robert, not the news you wanted I'm sure. But...at our time of life (well, you have a couple of years on me but we'll let that slide) re-evaluation is a great thing. Do what the doc says and you'll be fine. Just don't switch to bottled water because it's an easy - but ecologically damaging- alternative. You got lots to do yet (*cough* interview *cough*) and when you've digested the news I'm sure you'll be sharing your kidney-health tips with us all - as is you way. Best wishes.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
strength to you, Robert. and welcome to Veggie-world (well, the outskirts, anyway<g>).
- MikeAmundsen
Mike: I remember talking to you about your vegetarianism back in the 1990s. Wild, huh?
- Robert Scoble
I've heard of this. What a blessing to discover it early in your life. Many folks have diabetes as well and don't realized it until it's too late. Thanks for sharing.
- Todd Jordan
Robert I was diagnosed in 1995 with degenerative kidney disease (glomerular nephritis). My prayers are with you. Watching your protein intake is important. Did you have a renal biopsy done? @lawain
- lawain
lawain: the doctor and I decided not to have a biopsy done because it isn't a weird fatal disease (they've already checked for that) and because it's hereditary and stable. All sticking needles in me would do is cause me pain so I decided against it.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry about the news, Robert. I took myself off meat (except fish, like Ari) & I rarely drink coke (but oh is coffee my weakness). I was the biggest Carl's Jr Western Bacon Cheeseburger / IN N OUT / all things steak / bacon...BACON! guy. 5 years ago something snapped & I changed my eating lifestyle. I'm dragging this out just to say I can't explain it, but it wasn't as hard as I would have imagined. After a month I felt real good and I didn't miss it. Keep sharing - it's not called FriendFeed for nothing :)
- Micah
Health can catch up on us. I was diagnosed with High Blood Pressure a few months back (my Mother also has hypertension) and then less than a week later suffered a stroke at 44. I'm recovering now, and learning to live with a changed diet also. So I have some idea of what it's like for you. Keeping a positive outlook really helps. Best wishes.
- John Collis
@R: yep. life is like that. next time we meet, we can share a tasty non-dairy health drink (oxymoron?).
- MikeAmundsen
Robert, check out http://www.rawfor30days.com. Amazing film about changing your diet and the effect it can have on your health. Good luck my friend.
- John Seiferth
John: a stroke is what killed my mom. Not good at all. Glad to hear you're doing OK.
- Robert Scoble
sounds like some alternative SXSW plans may be in order (or at least a lot of bbq chicken - you still can have Chicken?). Good luck with the diet changes - at least you have caught it early and have the positive example of your dad's slowing it down via diet to keep you motivated!
- Shannon Clark
Shannon: damn, you reminded me of SXSW. Yeah, Chicken is OK.
- Robert Scoble
I don't blame you on the needles...I had the renal biopsy and it was terrible. I had to lie on my back (no movement) for 24 hours...and the pain was not fun. Good luck Robert. Fish Oil supplements are a must. Keeping a good thought for you this night...
- lawain
So sorry to hear about your dx, but I'm glad you got it and I'm glad you are acknowledging it. The act of change is hard, but will be worth it in the end. I wish you the best of luck.
- Heather Solos
Robert, What a shock for you. Am sorry to hear this news. I cared for my Father, who had same disease along with diabetes.. Am not going into detail here. But if you or your dad need resources or anything at all. Please let me know. Will keep you both in positive thought. (Not sure if they mentioned to you about managing your salt intake and foods with certain perservatives.) Most people do well with disease if they take good care of themselves. Stay grounded, think positive and above all don't worry!
- SashaKane
Just curious Robert, since it seems like you are always on the move do you pack snacks with you to keep you going or just hold out from meal to meal. I'm a snacker myself...weird question I know, but thought this was a somewhat relevant time to ask.
- Tyler Brownfield
I'm glad this was caught while you can deal with it with diet changes. I've been working on diet changes myself (mostly getting rid of refined sugar and white flour and, well, as much "manufactured" food as I can). It's a lot more work for me, but the health benefits are well worth it. Take care!
- vicster
Scoble, sorry to hear about your diagnosis. But I'm glad you've caught it now. My boss read the book Eat to Live by Dr. Joel Fuhrman: http://tinyurl.com/8sh23u and was impacted by it so much, that he decided to cater salads and a health conscious kitchen for us every day at work. We don't consider enough that what you eat really affects your health. Check it out, hope it helps.
- Marcus Kwan
Red Bull makes an awesome all natural cola. No phosphoric acid, no high fructose corn syrup, good stuff. Maybe you can drink that.. Disclosure: I work for Red Bull but honestly, the stuff is awesome and NO phosphoric acid.
- Kevin Doohan
I cut out soda. It wasn't so hard to do. Plus, you can save money just asking for water when you eat out.
- Morton Fox
I have a relative who is on a restricted diet because of a medical condition. Restrictions can be frustrating. Good luck.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
ok, i don't eat meat, but still drink soft drinks occasionally. if Robert is giving them up, then i will, too. no more phosphoric acid for me!
- MikeAmundsen
Nothing to say, but feel better, and soldier on!
- James Ostheimer
Sorry to hear it, Robert. Best wishes, hope diet will help. Chinese medicine is a great remedy as well....just a suggestion.
- Moushumi Kabir
Hey Robert, I guess they will come up with a cure very soon - so you may be having ice-cream sooner than you think!
- Rahul Deodhar
Good luck with it Robert
- cjmart
Robert, what is it about coke that aggravates your condition? The carbonation, the caffine, something else? Just curious as to why that in particular is an issue.
- Lindsay
all the best robert ... sounds like action now is the smartest medicine.
- Toby Forage
Good luck Robert. I was diagnosed with a heart condition a few years back, and had to give up chocolate and caffeine (although I still occasionally sneak a coffee in). It's very difficult to change diets at first, but you'll get there and I wish you the best.
- Brandon Mendelson
Sending you good wishes for the future, Robert. These will be hard changes to make, but you may find yourself feeling better as a result. I hope you're doing okay.
- Matt Cutts
Right, Ryo, because of the phosphorous and also the potassium...Means he also has to limit his intake of salt, broccoli and a bunch of other stuff.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
all soda? just the coke products? cola? dr pepper? 7up? Ginger ale?
- rob friedman
Mostly the dark ones. But really he should limit himself to herbal teas and water for most of his fluid intake.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
What about seltzer/carbonated water? I was thinking of switching to that because of the texture of soda carbonation that water doesn't do much for me
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Have the real stuff, I never liked diet coke
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
He has to avoid the real stuff just as much as the fake stuff, Michael.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Ryo, impossible.....you do know what was in ORIGINAL Coke, right? dDon't think that's legal in the US lol
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Again, no, he can't drink coke at all, nor root beer, nor pepsi, nor anything with much salt in it or potassium, which a lot of stuff has...means coffee is right out as well. Imagine my dad, a guy who drank 2 pots of coffee for 30 years, having to give up coffee...well he did.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Ryo--can you imagine how much Scoble will be on Twitter/FF etc, if he switches to Red Bull?
- David Thomas
I'm sorry to hear that you found out you have kidney disease. Did your docs recommend a kidney biopsy to get a diagnosis, or are they just watching and waiting? You *can* eat/drink things with phosphorus if you eat enough calcium to bind it, but obviously it would be best to discuss that with your physicians. If things are still early on, the protein load isn't as crucial, it's actually more important to eat *enough* protein to replace any protein you're losing and to prevent catabolism. Good luck!
- Victor Ganata
drink HONEST TEAS -- they are awesome - can get them at Whole Foods
- Maneesh
Your diet changes will make you feel much better long term anyway. My daughter is diabetic and when she gets low I tell her because of her healthy eating and close monitoring she's more likely to live to a ripe old age than most others who eat trash. Good luck Robert and a long and healthy future to you.
- Nicola Quinn
Man, sorry to hear the news. Diet coke is terrible for you, so you'll be doing yourself a world of good. Glad they found it early. B
- Ben Metcalfe
Robert, I'm so sorry to hear about this illness. You may indeed be able to control its severity and you will improve your overall health by not drinking soda or eating red meat. I'm sure your doctors will tell you more, or a good nutritionist will. Even though it's hard, you now have an opportunity to eat and live in a more nourishing way. My best thoughts to you and your family.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
So sorry to read that. Ganbatte, as they say in Japan, Robert!
- Paul Papadimitriou
Robert, yoga is supposed to help significantly. I'll connect you to a yoga guru if you like. Are you sure its the diet coke and burgers and ice-cream? Sure it isn't the facebook and friendfeed and twitter? :)
- Amit Pradhan
Robert, listen to your doctors. Renal failure is not a good thing and getting dialysis sucks. Learn to love fresh lemonade but best yet just simple water. Learn to love life in the process of this diagnosis.
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
I'm really sorry to hear that! The diet sounds like a big adjustment, but worth it if it helps to keep you well.
- Kate
Well, that sucks. I've dealt with food allergies/things to avoid previously. You get used to it relatively quickly once you've made the effort to find out all the alternatives. But good luck staving off the dialysis and dysfunction. I'll consume a burger in your honor this weekend.
- Kevin Leroux
I am really, deeply sorry to hear this Robert - I follow your posts and tweets with great interest and can't begin to imagine that such a big name could suffer. Famous people don't get ill!! My real sympathies.
- Peter Curd
I am a Diet Coke addict and I thank you for reminding me that drinking it is not healthy nor is it good for our bodies. Changing your eating habits may be difficult at first, but it will soon be second nature. Take care of your kidneys!
- Rachel Baker
Put yourself on your list of things to take care of.
- Phil Boiarski
Robert - With all the flying and running around you do, it could be worse. You've got more energy than the Energizer bunny.
- Charlie Anzman
Good luck Pal. Sorry to hear about his. You'll come out just fine though. You've got lots of people who love you and support you around you and you might find some brand new foods that you never even knew you loved.
- Thomas Hawk
Sorry to hear. :(
- Tyson Key
So are you allowed Pasta? What about Fish
- Marcus Beagley
Very sorry to hear that - any threat to kidneys or liver must be taken very seriously, but we can be thankful that there is so much we can do within our own control, through diet. Been having to tiptoe around my kidneys since I was a kid (but thankfully I can eat almost everything in moderation, but I had years salt-free and it could change again - salt free seriously complicated life!). There is plenty of great foods you can still eat, and do learn to like new things faster than we realise.
- Iphigenie
Robert, very sorry to hear that. Changing a diet is difficult, but I am sure you can work through it. Good luck.
- Rob Diana
Robert, I am so sorry. Giving up Diet Coke sounds to me even harder than giving up Big Macs. Take care of yourself, please!
- Betsy Devine
I have been against diet drinks for a very long time. Good for you to do this!
- Martha
I know Tofu and Textured Vegetable Protien are pretty decent in terms of what you can do with it and the taste.
- Stephen Lecheler
First month hard to give up , but by third month it will be much easier and by then you will be able to tell a difference in the way you feel. More than your kidneys will thank you. Overall fitness/wellness program may help too. Best of luck!
- Tracy Benham
I gave up Coke and French Fries from one whole year. It was surprising how that also basically meant I gave up hamburgers as well (you wouldn't order that without the other). Wife is nagging me to give them up again.
- Andrew Leyden
Robert, take care of yourself and stay healthy.
- Paul
robert, sorry to hear about your illness praying for you and your family
- Jonathan Jesse
thats not good. Take care of yourself.
- Venky Chinnathambi
Take care of yourself! By chance, is it polyarteritis nodosa? My mom has it and I've long suspected it was caused by her...unhealthy consumption habits.
- Phoenix
Drink water, lot's of water and your kidneys will love you
- paul mooney
Drink water, but don't drink too much if you have chronic kidney disease. You'll swell up.
- Victor Ganata
I myself prefer regular
- The Real sofarsoShawn
I'm not sure if you've discovered the wonderful world of loose-leaf tea yet, but I recently did and it's a wonderful alternative. Check out adagioteas.com. Good stuff!
- Rob
Lose-leaf tea is simply the best tea you can get; I've been drinking Darjeeling Second Flush for many years now and don't ever want to miss it.
- Donald Townsend
"I knew a diabetic who was sometimes hit by an overwhelming feeling of being deprived." - these times inevitably come because it's for the rest of your frickn life. The good news is the feelings go away and you realize life is still good. It will suck, but I have confidence you can make it through. Life will be different, but it will be just as good, maybe even better.
- Todd Hoff
Robert, sorry to hear you have the same disease, but making the decision to stay away from diet drinks and red meat will be good for you in lots of ways. Your heart and arteries will thank you too. Be sure to encourage Patrick and Milan to adopt the same limitations, since it's hereditary.
- Karoli
Robert I know you'll be able to manage this disease. I wish you the best of success in keeping it from impacting you enjoying your life to the fullest. I just found out last year that I have diabetes, totally changed how I'm supposed to eat, live, etc. I haven't done a great job with it - but I just remember how stunned I was when i found out and how it seemed to change how I look at everything, from my own mortality to priorities, to family to everything else.
- Morgan
Sorry to hear that. Robert :(
- Shey
Sorry to hear that, but it's great it was seen early. Hope you discover lots of good juices and thing to replace the sodas. And hope the BBQ at SXSW doesn't drive you nuts :)
- Patrick Jordan
For your cold beverage + caffeine fix, the South (yes, I'm speaking for the region) recommends Sweet Tea. *Real* sweet tea with sugar. Not that weird raspberry tea stuff they pass off in California.
- Paul Reynolds
Whole Foods 365 Cola has no phosphorus, no corn syrup and tastes pretty good
- RAPatton
He can't have ANY cola...as they all have potassium. He has to avoid salt, potassium and phosphorous like the plague.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex: I can have potassium. That only matters in later stages of the disease. But I can't have phosphorous. Some sodas, like 7 UP are OK. Any that have phosphoric acid aren't OK, though.
- Robert Scoble
If you say so...although 50% is the middle of it...should definitely avoid salt and keep your blood pressure low as that has an effect on the kidneys as well.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
7-Up -- it takes the ouch out of grouch. And it's Lithiated! http://www.flickr.com/photos... Sorry about the kidney issues, no fun.
- Paula W
Thanks everyone for the very kind words! Unfortunately iced tea is on the list of things I can't have. I don't know why. So is beer. These foods have phosphorous which is bad for my kidneys (yours are OK, so you don't need to worry about these limitations). They don't know what is causing our kidney disease.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry to hear about this, as someone who doesn't drink tea or coffee (so lives on Coke), and is addicted to red meat, ice cream and beer! Just glad to hear you've found out about it at a time when you can make some changes. If it helps, I'm about to give quitting smoking another go, so I'll be having my own withdrawal problems!
- Badger Gravling
I'm a bit late, but sorry to hear about this. It sounds like you're still able to keep it under control by changing your diet. One of my uncles was on dialysis and it's not fun. Since it's hereditary, is there any chance Patrick & Milan could also develop it?
- Mike Hussein Cohen
Am from India here. Seen enough veggie, teetotalers. Welcome to the club (partly at least! ). It's not that hard, will be tough initially but as your friends,colleagues learn and understand, it will become much easier later as nobody is going to offer you foods you r not supposed 2 take, so less temptation. Switch to soya (ask doc 1st of course). Heard soya has lots of stuff which you would otherwise miss out due to severely reduced meat intake.
- Akshay Kini
My dad had kidney disease and was on dialysis for 15 years back when it was less efficient and more problematic. I am sorry your dad is struggling with it too. We never were clear on what the triggers might have been with my dad but environment was a likely factor as he spent a lot of time in old print newsrooms and aerospace manufacturing facilities.
- sean808080
Power Twitter: Inline Media, Integrated Search And A Lot More - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Jason Brooks, Carlos Ayala, Mark Schulz and 14 other people liked this
Power twitter is amazing - adds cool features to twitter right in Firefox 1. search entry box right below your profile info (on right); 2. then status history, 3. @replies are now easier to manage - it tracks ALL of them like twitter should have done in the first place... VERY COOL add-on to Firefox!
- Susan Beebe
bump!!!
- Susan Beebe
I wont use anything you have to log into... if they use API thing.. fair enough.. to much crap going on. :o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
NO Login reqd. It just *improves* twitter web page! woo hooo!
- Susan Beebe
really? :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I just loaded the add-on, restarted Firefox browser and wala! Improvements galore! yeah!
- Susan Beebe
good then? :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Yes!
- Susan Beebe
good enough for me to try it then :o0 thanks..... BIZZYbee. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
hehheeh Buzzz Buzzz!
- Susan Beebe
Installed it and my Firefox went out of control. It doesn't make sense to me, since I haven't restarted, yet.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
what you mean out of control?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Yikes... I had NO issues at all...wow
- Susan Beebe
have you restarted it yet? if so.. did it help? :o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
It went sluggish, and it's spiking up processor usage. I hate restarting FF.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mini- hopefully you restarted Firefox and everything is OK!
- Susan Beebe
Great ,i translate this post to persian language here : http://imilad.com/1387... thank you susan
- Mil∂d
I am still being too stubborn. Since I now use Chrome almost exclusively for FF, and since I ignore almost everything else, FF can just about be as sluggish as it wants to, until I decide to read my email or check the other services again. Restarting anything is against my nature.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mil∂d - awesome!! thanks! :)
- Susan Beebe
Mini - yikes, you have to restart your browser if you install add-ons! :D
- Susan Beebe
But that's only if I want the add-ons to work, right?
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Louis -- this answers more or less the question of what FriendFeed shoud have done. Once Twitter really gets inline graphics, the game is over. That's the big feature advantage that FF has over Twitter.
- Dave Winer
No way, Dave! When Twitter lets us hook all our services into it in a manner similar to FriendFeed, _then_ the game is over. Inline graphics is just an incremental improvement.
- Chris Charabaruk
OTOH they aren't competing, anyway. Twitter and FriendFeed serve different purposes, and there's no reason for them to try and do the same thing, the same way.
- Chris Charabaruk
twitter as a company has no innovation what so ever. I haven't seen any innovation come out of this company in the last few years. Even the search which works great was an acquisition. Extremely disappointing.
- Akshay Dodeja
Akshay - correct. Twitter acquired "summize" search which is now their search feature...that's it!
- Susan Beebe
loving power twitter... the @replies are great..finally! phew!
- Susan Beebe
I agree it's cool. But my only problem with these site enhancers (like this and the Cleaner FriendFeed script) is I get used to them and don't realize that the people I'm interacting with are seeing things in a different way.
- Paul Reynolds
And if anybody thinks FF is just Twitter with inline images, they're doing it wrong. :o)
- Paul Reynolds
Paul - good point on the UIX being different...good to remember
- Susan Beebe
The Alternative to the iPhone Pro - http://gizmodo.com/5122644...
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This one is SEXY.
- Mona Nomura
Oh... that's nice
- Johnny
Very nice indeed.
- Robert Miller
oh, shiny!
- Pete D
Would be nice
- Neya
This will make the iPhone bulkier. do not want.
- Randy
HAHAHA
- "Joey"
Maybe they could sneak a heftier battery under that keyboard.
- Mitch
Looks clumsy and would get in the way of actually using the IPhone.
- ChiliMac
God, no. I can out-type my Blackberry and G1 using friends, I don't need no stinkin keyboard.
- Rob H.
thick ...as a brick !
- viki saigal
HATERS! ;)
- Mona Nomura
from IM
that seriously looks like shit.
- Akshay Dodeja
KB FTW
- Mo Kargas
Well I like it.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Looks like a nintendo ds or one of the early casio digital diaries !!
- viki saigal
Exercise in a pill? - http://www.soniaarrison.com/blog...
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And where do I get these drugs?
- Paul Buchheit
they give them away for free, at least until you get hooked, and then they reel you in.
- Nathan Eckenrode
Put me on the list.
- Akshay Dodeja
There's a long interview with Evans here, from last Sep: http://twit.tv/fib22 . The last 20-30 minutes are about Marathon Mouse. That's old enough that he only discusses the new pill in general terms, but he tells the genetic detective story that lead to it.
- j1m
It'll be a long time before they make it for humans. Myostatin inhibitors will come first. See this human trial for muscular dystrophy, where it didn't cure muscular dystrophy but it didn't harm the patients (http://www.institut-myologie.org/anglais...). For people without muscular dystrophy, it could cause dramatic muscle gain. If I had unlimited resources I would be trying to clone the drug overseas.
- Kevin Fischer
So sad really.
- Sean
I am stuffed. You?
Helen Hoefele, Trish Haley, Loren Heiny and 13 other people liked this
Too stuffed. Only had room for one more chocolate chip cookie.
- Loren Heiny
Had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Thankful for my friends.
- David Z
The pie hasn't even come out yet.
- Robert Scoble
De-stuffing will happen overnight...
- hansveld
Not yet. Heading out soon.
- Akshay Dodeja
Yup. Here's a list of everything we ate, by species, http://bit.ly/XADO
- Tom Kimmerer
Not yet
- Michael Hocter
Dude. I think I'm about to blow a gasket. I was fine until my aunt brought out the mac and cheese she made. My uncle made two crockpots full of collard greens with balsamic vinegar (and no hog!) Oh, the humanity!
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
Grandma makes really good turkey and stuffing and tons of other stuff. Then comes my mom's cranberry cookies for desert. All yum. I am thankful for having a stomach large enough for all of it.
- Michael Perlman
I shall be soon! :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™
Yes :( I went on an empty stomach. Always a bad idea when there's so much food and things to nibble on.
- ·[▪_▪]·
Stuffed up to my eyes...can hardley see the screen!
- Scott Maentz
Not yet, the turkey carving begins at 5P.
- Jeff P. Henderson
waffer thin miiint anyone?
- Vicky
Can't eat another thing. Not even a wafer-thin mint. ;-)
- Julie Barrett
Yes, still full from lunch! :)
- Carmen wBabby
Actually, I exercised some restraint, so not really. But my mother is an awesome cook, so if quality counts . . .
- John Craft
yep - started at my daughter's in-laws @ 1PM EST and just now got home (6PM EST). *stuff-ed*
- MikeAmundsen
Yes. And I'm off to another dinner soon.
- Anika
YUP!! woo hooo!! :) Pecan pie was HEAVEN!!
- Susan Beebe
Yes, it feel sooooo satisifing and nice to have the family together again
- paul mooney
Two pieces of pie...one piece of cake...oh yea, I had some pie too.
- Sean Brady
Still waiting on mine to get done.
- Chuck
@Trevor, so what to the inmates get to eat for Thanksgiving?
- Jeff P. Henderson
Oh yes.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
not yet, dinner is not for another few more hours
- Rajiv Doshi
T Minus 30 minutes still. SOme of you jumped the gun.
- Adam Helweh
Needed a break before dessert!
- webojunk
Rajiv: we will have dinner later too! Hah.
- Robert Scoble
Vicky: Great minds, eh?
- Julie Barrett
Happy Gobble Gobble to everybody!
- Susan Beebe
Pleasantly comfortable but @domdematteo and buddies are snoring in front of the football
- Sally Church
We don't have Thanksgiving down-under, which is probably a good thing for my waistline!
- Andrew
Unfortunately, a bitter fight about gay marriage forced me to leave my dinner early.
- Jared Mehle
It can be intimidating, all of that food.
- Dusty Dean
yes. very.
- Valley
most definitely. turkey was delicous
- Rob
will be at the table of plenty at 830 pm PST
- barce
LOL. Only you, Robert, could get 40 comments on such a basic post! :)
- Helen Hoefele
Helen, if RS farted, recorded it and submitted the MP3 we'd all fall head over heels to make sure we were commenting on it. But then again, I'm pretty sure he doesn't do those things ;)
- jamesdkirk
Jamesdkirk: not true. Some topics, if I discussed them, would disgust people. The trick to this is tapping into a common experience. Now, can you take some turkey home?
- Robert Scoble
Come on now brother! You know I'm just perpetuating the convo! No need to take any home, plenty here. But really poor cherry pie. What is the best pie?
- jamesdkirk
Jared: sorry to hear that. We try not to bring up divisive political issues until after desert.
- Robert Scoble
We Did It - http://digg.com/2008_us...
"Can you beat that? http://wedidit.us/posts/8"
- Akshay Dodeja
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"The Rev Martin Luther King receives a kiss from his wife after a jury found him guilty in March 1956 of organising the Montgomery bus boycotts but decided to suspend his $500 fine. King was born in deeply divided Atlanta in 1929 and became famous for championing the non-violent resistance that characterised early civil rights protests."
- Anna Haro
We did it! www.wedidit.us show your support!
- Akshay Dodeja
I wish people were more realistic about Obama.
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You mean not so pie-in-the-sky? I think Obama wishes that too.
- Phil Glockner
I just wish people were more realistic. Period.
- FFing Enigma
That would suck, but be SO AWESOME, Monique.
- Mattie Kenny
Truth be told, we've already had 8 years of a Manchurian Candidate.
- FFing Enigma
He could also be the anti-christ and I could probably construct a pretty plausible argument for that. However, he has to win first...lol
- Rah-PM 2012
What? You mean it's not going to be all puppy dogs and ice cream if Obama gets elected? [distraught]
- Akiva
Realism is useful. Try farming unrealistically and see how fast the bank takes your land. Or crossing the street unrealistically - against the traffic... However, one can watch TV unrealistically - it's all unrealistic there, from the News Hour on until the same time the next day. ;)
- Thrivelearning
Robert, apparently unrealistic banking works out pretty well right now... ;-)
- FFing Enigma
Well, to assuage your fears, Monique, McCain made many many missteps in his campaign, which would cause it to fail. These were missteps that (for the most part) could have gone either way with the public. McCain began to pander to his party, rather than stick to his prior convictions. He tried to have his cake and eat it too and that's why he lost my vote. The moderate Republican of several years ago? I'd vote for that guy over Obama who doesn't have enough experience and holds certain political philosophie
- Mattie Kenny
I feel are dubious.
- Mattie Kenny
I don't think Obama is the Mahdi, but what's wrong with being enthusiastic about your favored candidate? Enthusiasm wins elections.
- Steve Lowe
Unrealistic golden parachutes, bonuses, and $400K parties after you just got bailed out... Hmmm maybe I should change businesses. -- Nope, farming is a lot more fun. And I get a great tan in the summer, market up or down. No ties - just jeans and t-shirts. OK, I'm being too realistic here...
- Thrivelearning
I'd rather be inspired by things that will actually happen or have actually happened.
- Mattie Kenny
I think people are so excited about Obama because he is "not Bush". Thus, Obama >> Bush = "past 8 years"
- Mike Reynolds
I just had a thought. I have placed no expectations on Obama. I just think he will do the best he can. I don't assume or expect anything specific. Maybe I'm weird.
- Rah-PM 2012
There's no way the next 4 years under Obama will be worse than the last 8 years under Bush. I don't expect the man to work miracles, I do expect him to bring respect, intelligence and class back to the White House. Oh and he will IMMEDIATELY increase our standing with other countries in the world.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
@Mattie, "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw
- mikepk
I understand your position, but I do think we need to aspire to things that are greater than what we believe is possible.
- mikepk
I have some ocean front property in AZ. And I'll throw the Golden Gate in for free.
- Zehnchu
Well, I know not everything he says is going to come to fruition but ... you've got to have a real weak grasp on reality to think *any* politician follows through on their entire platform. I'm looking for progress, pragmatism, diplomacy. But I'm with Chris W. We *need* enthusiasm. We need to pounce on gridlock and scream like holy hell to make it stop. Only be remaining vigilant, connected, enthusiastic to we see things happen. The latter does not happen before the former IMO.
- AJ Kohn
I don't know, it's an interesting question. It seems like people have different ways of approaching politics. Some people get very emotional, and emotionally attached to candidates - it's just how they are. Some people seem to feel that the whole system exists to make them feel smarter than other people. I think the best approach is to try and remain as pragmatic as possible....
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- Lon Harris
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I agree with Steve Lowe. What's wrong with enthusiasm? Enthusiasm does not equal unrealistic. People know it's a long road ahead and that things will not change the second he takes office. It takes a while - just like with Bill Clinton but it will happen. But that's just my two cents. Well, I'm off to volunteer. No doubt for me...
- Anna Lynn M.
I never said there was anything wrong with enthusiasm, but saying Obama is some kind of political genius is completely unrealistic.
- Mattie Kenny
I agree. I think one thing also is that people have to realize - it's a must - that as important if not more are who they vote for congress and senate. from now on, i hope that this "enthusiasm" keeps going long beyond this election. As a country, we have so much more control and rights as other countries, yet so few of us exercise it. I pray this is a start of everybody being awake at the wheel regardless of who wins :)
- Patricia
I have to agree that people need to be more realistic. although....Have you guys not learned anything?? One man can make a significant change even if it is a system. It might not be a change directly though his actions but he might be able to make a difference by the people who work for him. Its exactly like a CEO and the president is a CEO. Who doesnt believe that there are a good an bad CEOs? A good CEO can really change the direction of the company for the common code, everyone will not be happy.
- Akshay Dodeja
Rah - I'm sure Bush did the best HE could, too. Not expecting anything from your candidate and yet you're still voting for him? That's bad news bears.
- Mattie Kenny
I think there is good cause to be optimistic though. The Obama campaign has been ... incredible. They had a plan and they have consistently stayed with it, though tweaking it as necessary. Obama never lashed out under these attacks, which could have spawned 'angry black man' memes. Step back for a second. Tomorrow we might elect a black man as President. Could we have imagined that 40 years ago?
- AJ Kohn
@mark, agreed. and the thing is, he isn't the sole power in the house. we have to stop thinking the president is in total control of the country.
- Patricia
Mattie, if you look at how he's run this campaign, there's only one conclusion that you CAN make...that he's a political genius.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
the US needs an injection of Hope more than it needs an old man to continue the same old policies. is Obama perfect? of course not. nobody is. but McCain is clearly a divider, and after 8 years, isn't it obvious how that's worked out???
- Jeremy Toeman
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