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"I think poetry should be taught chronologically backwards. We should hook with contemporary poetry ... in language they can recognize."
Helen Sventitsky, Kamilah Gill, Pete Delucchi and 9 other people liked this
Maybe then I would like more contemporary poetry than I do (it should rhyme!)
- Michael W. May
This was a Billy Collins quote, and I thought it made sense.
- RAPatton
whispers: (no it doesn't need to rhyme! it just needs to be about something I care about! too much rhyme often makes trite poetry, similar to insisting on realism for visual art)
- Kamilah Gill
You can download Chromium, the equivalent of Google's Chrome Browser, for Mac OS X and Linux here: http://www.codeweavers.com/service...
Helen Sventitsky, Charlie Anzman, ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0, and 14 other people liked this
It should be noted that this is NOT the native osx and linux version, but Chrome running under Wine
- Claudio Cicali ♋
Correct. It is a port.
- Louis Gray
that's hilarious - read both comments - Claudio says it's Wine, Louis says it's a port - get it?
- Allen Stern
I'll fool with it anyway. I know that interface is gonna look cool on my mac :P
- Brandon Titus
man i love Allens wit sometimes...
- Zee.
yes, i could... but why? ;)
- senape
Allen... you're very good. But drunk with power.
- Louis Gray
The blue icon looks like an eyeball staring at you.
- Dom
It's hard to read FriendFeed - everything comes out pale and spidery or is it my eyesight?
- Sally Church
Good enough to tide me over until the native Linux version launches (seems to do https, which my DIY Wine+Chrome installs fails on. Unfortunately still has issues with autheticated http in my hands).
- Andrew Perry
awesome...that was FAST!
- Susan Beebe
I'm gonna wait for Chris to install it then do a video about it LOL. Thanks for the link though!
- Mona Nomura
The worst part, so far, about CrossOver Chromium is that when I do a "Close Window" it closes the app and all tabs. Ugly fonts I can live with.
- Louis Gray
thanks man ,,, will give it a try
- johnpiercy
I play both sides, installing the Firefox 'Chrome' theme :¬D ~ http://ucash.in/2abec68
- CannonGod
CodeWeavers Ports Chromium to Linux and Mac OS X - http://www.reddit.com/r...
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ports? ahem...
- A.T.
Social Network for Scientists - http://www.ignitesocialmedia.com/social-...
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'GOP presidential nominee John McCain is touting his tech cred?' Stands back smartly as hungry lions enter the den... http://www.sciam.com/blog...
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Quite simply, the most ridiculous bravado I have heard on the campaign trail in weeks. How many folks here think McCain has tech cred?!
- Sally Church
I thought he had no clue how to use a PC?
- Dom
"I invented wireless" </mccain>
- Admiral Anika
Pffft! Sounds like Al 'I invented the Internet' Gore
- Dom
Here's the thing: I don't just want to live in a country that is known for it's economy. I want to live in a country where we take care of each other and raise our kids in a kick ass educational system tailored to the needs of tomorrow.
JA Castillo, Helene, Tamar Weinberg and 24 other people liked this
I hear Switzerland is nice... ;-)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I want to sleep well at night knowing that people in this nation aren't suffering needlessly because we didn't give them a hand up (as opposed to a hand out). I want to know that the rest of the world trusts us to be an honest broker of peace and democracy (IE one that doesn't force it's views on anyone else, but lets democracy flourish organically even if it means countries disagreeing with our worldview).
- Alex Scoble
Yes these things are expensive, but we have the wealth to do it in a substantive manner for all Americans. What's the point in having a wealthy country if we aren't going to use it for the common good, as opposed to squandering it for the wants (not needs, wants) of the few.
- Alex Scoble
you've never lived in that country....
- Jeremy Toeman
I am all for a upgrade in the educational system... one of the ways to do that will be to stop protecting teachers who don't do a good job and rewarding those that do. Similarly, whole schools shoudl be rewarded for good performance. Good folks will disagree on how to do that, but the specific are not what I think this thread is about - it is about the desire and the goal.
- Soulhuntre
I am also a big fan of helping others and use charities to do that. I donate time and money to causes that I think will help the society I live in. I support government programs that provide an essential safety net - not only because it's a nice thing to do but because there are practical benefits to the society. Again, I am sure we will disagree on where that line should and how to supply that safety net, but the core concept is a good one.
- Soulhuntre
Excellent, Alex. Very well put. I am always willing to use my resources as an investment, whether it is time, effort or money. So we have steps one and two, the desire and the raw materials. How do we get to step 246?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Abby, I'm not rich enough to be a politician. :) Oh and I absolutely abhor public speaking. I'd make Nancy Pelosi look good.
- Alex Scoble
Steps 3..246: work together to negotiate and compromise instead of everyone thinking it's us against them. But that requires people with open minds. Open minds accept differences yet can still work together to accomplish real ends. We're a long way from acceptance in the US. Just getting to step 4 might take 200 more years.
- ·[▪_▪]·
I live in a state (California) that's known for its economy. Funding for education is basically pegged at 1978 levels, so we're #49 in the nation in per-capita student spending (thank goodness for Mississippi).
- Mistletoe Glen
So, as an example, Alex and I seem diametrically opposed, philosophically, on a few issues, yet both of us want the same, ultimately. If we both start building a bridge to the goal, one on each side, we eventually meet. Pragmatically, Alex wants to end suffering so he can sleep at night, I want to so I have more customers for my business. Two totally different reasons, yet the same goal. And Alex, if I recall, Moses originally wasn't a good speaker, either...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
It's a lot easier to get a following when you are designated by a god...oh and that god giving you some special powers certainly helps too.
- Alex Scoble
@[._.] Open minds are the key! So, now what. What is step 3 and how do we start? Seriously. This intrigues me to no end!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
By the way, I believe that all of the above is doable, with the current government right now.
- Alex Scoble
Alex if you speak about your ideas with the same passion with which you write, you would be an excellent speaker. The key is in believing what you are saying, even if you know some of your audience is dead set against what you are saying.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
The problem starts when you use force to compel other people to fund the same programs you want funded. Not everyone wants the government to do all that. Taxation backed up with threat of jail for not paying == force. That said, I agree with you. ;)
- Chrimmus Tad
The problem is fear. Fear is the mind killer.
- Alex Scoble
I don't think our current elected officials have the ability to do this. Many are power-mad and only seek re-election on that basis, not to truly be helpful to the society. Perhaps step 3 is term limits for the House and the Senate so that we keep new ideas flowing through and get rid of the "power-broker" mentality.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
The question is, can you have these things if you don't have the economy to support it? I'm all for redistribution of wealth to achieve these things, but you can't redistribute anything if there isn't anything to redistribute—or if you lack the infrastructure to achieve such redistribution. And don't give me any laissez faire mythology. If our economy was actually governed by the Invisible Hand, we would never have recovered from the Great Depression, and the U.S. would be just another third world country.
- Victor Ganata
A tax system doesn't quite work if it's voluntary. The government can barely do budgets as it is with the volatility we've been seeing in the markets. Now try and do up a budget when you have absolutely no idea how much people would give. Plus I can already see the two months worth of pledge drive shows mandated by the government on all channels every 6 months. No thanks.
- Alex Scoble
If you want an education for the needs of tomorrow, then why are you voting for Obama who is in the hip pocket of teachers unions?! The unions fight tooth and nail to make certain our education system never changes at all!
- Dawn
Unfortunately term limits don't work quite as we'd like them to. There's a whole host of unintended consequences that you get from them. They actually make the legislators more susceptible to monkeying by lobbyists. You also get people in office that aren't experienced for the job.
- Alex Scoble
@Dawn i'd rather have the guy who wants a new plan than the guy who supports NCLB...
- Jeremy Toeman
Victor, I think our current economy can support it in a limited fashion. We have to be smart about spending dollars where it makes the most sense and that's something that we are kind of failing at right now. But there are certainly economic and societal factors that will make this harder to do as time marches on...growth of the population, extension of lifespans, limits on resources such as oil, water, copper, etc. Which is why I'd start at education.
- Alex Scoble
Tad and Victor bring up valid issues. We have to dig farther, Tad, as to why "X" needs funding or doesn't need funding. Alex originally stated "hand-up not hand-out." While I may be against welfare as we now know it, if program "X" truly made people better, more productive members of the society, then the society benefits, and the net result is that my business does better. Victor, I don't think redistribution is needed, only a commitment to truly help the society with whatever resources you can contribute.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Yeah, oddly enough even though my fiance is a unionized teacher, I'm not a big fan of unions. But teachers apparently like them or at least look at them as a necessary evil.
- Alex Scoble
I'd prefer the abolition of the federal dept of ed unless there's going to be a constitutional amendment making it a federal responsibility.
- Jeff Quinton
Fair enough on term limits. I did preface the whole thing with "perhaps..." On education I have a question for the group: do you think kids drop out of high school because they are so disillusioned with the prospect of a fulfilling job that a high school diploma not only is not helpful but is actually seen as a waste of energy?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Why does there need to be a constitutional amendment for that? Congress has already passed numerous laws regarding that and they've never been struck down by the Supreme Court (to my limited legal knowledge...could be wrong if they've over reached)...so the legal precedent is there. Once you have that, there's no need for it to be a constitutional mandate.
- Alex Scoble
Let's just hurry up and develop an AI to rule us all. :P :D Can't be bought, not power mad, only interested in what we program it to do. Every 4 years we can vote on changes to the program.
- Chrimmus Tad
Man, Mark. That's a great question...that could be a thread in it's own right because I can think of several reasons why people drop out.
- Alex Scoble
Alex, where exactly does the constitution say the federal government is responsible for education? How does that get around the 10th amendment? Also, if I had my druthers, there would be no public education at all.
- Jeff Quinton
Alex: Try Mill Valley, California.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Jeff: Like you said, 10th amendment, so it's a state issue. And all 50 states mandate public education.
- Victor Ganata
Ahh now we have the bull in the china shop. :) No state can properly fund its education system on its own, there's just no way if they want a high quality education (in most states, particularly the poor ones), so they ask for federal funds. The federal government is all too happy to give funds for education, BUT (and this is a huge but) they have to play by the fed's rules...IE no religious proselytizing in classrooms, no teaching of creationism as fact, what have you.
- Alex Scoble
That's how we get a federal education system that doesn't require a constitutional amendment.
- Alex Scoble
I'm feelin' where you are coming from Alex...
- Steve Isaacs
I seem to be mentioning Adam Smith a lot lately, but even he thought it was preferable to have a free system of education than to have people end up in jail. For one thing, it's a hell of a lot cheaper in terms of what it costs the state. For another, you can't have a functioning democracy if people aren't educated. It's no accident that anti-intellectualism goes hand-in-hand with totalitarianism.
- Victor Ganata
Tag Clouds for Our Lifestreams - http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008...
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Dear Hutch - Note that Wordle.com's 'Enter a feed url here to get its wordle' gives you the Wordle of of only the last 20 posts or so.
- Yuvi
You're the second person I've read today talking about tag clouds, it's an interesting concept
- Dom
Yuvi - this is my simulation. I actually went through the Google Reader shares of five people (myself included) to find the tags on the last 30 tagged items that were shared. I put those tags into the Wordle generator. Took some time to do, but I wanted to see what they'd look like. Pretty interesting actually.
- Hutch Carpenter
Dom - I agree, there are cool possibilities. You happen to have the link to the other post?
- Hutch Carpenter
@Hutch - Must've been a lot of manual work. Ofcourse there's a not-so-well-known API available for Google Reader, but it breaks often, and without warning :(
- Yuvi
@Hutch - yeah this one was on blogs and their shared Google Reader items http://oncochat.typepad.com and there was another one the other day here http://nsaunders.wordpress.com/2008.... All cool stuff.
- Dom
Thanks Dom. And that post links to this one, where someone ran a Wordle on 25 of the feeds in their Google Reader. I love the visual representation of topics: http://nsaunders.wordpress.com/2008...
- Hutch Carpenter
Snap! LOL
- Dom
That was more Gnomedex heavy than I expected. Run it again in a week, and I bet Gnomedex is gone.
- Louis Gray
Louis - you bring up an excellent point. Ideally, there should be a time element to these. I think recency is valuable, but getting a view further back is important too. For this exercise, I just looked at 30 recent shares. It takes a while to manually pull these together for a person (technology would make this easy).
- Hutch Carpenter
Yuvi has that technology.
- Louis Gray
@Louis - Your command is my command. *Waits for Sun to come back up so he gets access to his PC*
- Yuvi
I love when a plan comes together.
- Hutch Carpenter
@Hutch - Me too :) I just hope that it doesn't give me a headache like it did the last time I tried.
- Yuvi
Grokking tag clouds: I wonder if the most effective way to grok a tag cloud would be to rank the tags by frequency of occurrence and display them in a single list/paragraph: tag1 (#), tag2 (#), tag3 (#), tag4 (#), tag5 (#), etc. (where "#" = number of occurrences). I find the current convention for displaying tag clouds to be not cognitively efficient -- I waste time and effort in eyeballing the display in repetitive and redundant arcs to get the tags prioritized and organized in my head.
- Sean McBride
Sean - I think that's a good idea. Tag clouds are great as an easy at-a-glance visual representation. But a simple list by popularity satisfies a more analytical itch.
- Hutch Carpenter
Hutch, great post. I think tag clouds for lifestreaming is an excellent idea! Thanks for putting a great deal of legwork into this post.
- Mike Fruchter
Tag clouds from blogs to lifestreams should be the next progression. On the subject of tags, does anyone know when they were first introduced or widely used in the blogosphere?
- Mike Fruchter
Someone should post Hutch's suggestion to FriendFeed.
- Mike Fruchter
Hutch, I had to Strand this post. http://www.strands.com/mikefru...
- Mike Fruchter
http://friendfeed.com/e... - I ran a wordle on the last 1000 items in the shared google reader room.
- Tim Hoeck
Mike - thanks! If lifestreams become a greater presence than blogs, it'd be great to figure who's interested in what, and to use others as filters.
- Hutch Carpenter
Hutch, nice one! I just linked to your Tech Wordle in my science blog to complete the circle. Dom, thanks for mentioning mine, most kind.
- Sally Church
Just keeping folks updated - the API is giving me some trouble. Still looking into it...
- Yuvi
Great stuff, Yuvi!
- Sally Church
Yuvi - Eric Rice made the same point as Louis about the ability to look further back: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Hutch Carpenter
I really like the tag cloud idea. This feature is already available on 2 existing Lifestreaming sites. Dandelife http://dandelife.com/krynsky and http://correlate.us/krynsky as I used it as one of my feature comparisons a while back http://lifestreamblog.com/compare... I really would like to see this proliferate to all services and even self hosted solutions.
- Mark Krynsky
Mark - thanks! I'm going to check those out.
- Hutch Carpenter
Also I forgot to mention that Sweetcron supports tags as well.
- Mark Krynsky
I love the idea of tag clouds, but I question their long-term utility. I only find it useful for seeing the top few things in the cloud and then move on. The smaller items in the cloud lose out or don't even appear in some cases.
- Ernie Oporto
Ernie - that's an interesting point. The large size of items in tag clouds give a pretty good feel for what someone or something is about. The smaller tags may lose out in attention. But it's kind of a long tail argument, for each individual.
- Hutch Carpenter
I'm at the Office 2.0 Conference trolling for useful stuff. Also hitting Zoho party tonight, but my baby is close to walking so might bail.
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Good for you Robert.
- Ricardo Rabago
Awesome! Liking your priorities, Robert. :-) Go, Milan! Get your walk on! Yo.
- Lisa L. Seifert
I always knew that you were a troll! Seriously, the final part of your tweet makes me really want to get a telecommuting job so I don't miss these things myself.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Absolutely bail. That video would be far greater than the work ones you could do tonight.
- Andrew Leyden
After having that conversation with Om Malik about stress this morning, I think I'll bail too. Milan is so cute, too.
- Robert Scoble
Conferences happen every week, 1st time walking doesn't... I'm for bail :)
- Johnny Worthington
LOL I first read this as "I'm at the Office 2.0 Conference trolling for used stuff." I had a picture of you looking for left over stationary supplies.
- Jim Goldstein
I am bailing.
- Robert Scoble
Yes! Can't wait to see the video of Milan walking!!!
- Lisa L. Seifert
Good for you Robert.
- Russellreno
+2 Robert! Quality family time is renewable stress relief.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Yay, the football season finally starts tonight! Who's watching the Giants vs. Skins?
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I'll put it on although I don't like either team. However, any day that the Redskins lose is a good day in my book.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Umm...Football season started 3 weeks ago. Oh! You mean that game the Americans call "Football" that has very little to do with feet!
- Stephen Pierzchala
Come on Man Utd!!
- Zee.
Zee... Man U till I die!
- Johnny Worthington
Forget that. GUNNERS GUNNERS GUNNERS.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Victory! I managed to completely change the topic in a FriendFeed comment stream.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Stephen: yup realised I had finally become an American instead of a Brit when I referred to throwing not kicking the ball, lol
- Sally Church
S'alright. I'm Canadian. I came to Football late, and will never go back. Notice I state no team allegiance...though I am thinking of supporting Hull, if only to prevent their relegation in their first year!
- Stephen Pierzchala
Too bad the first game is two teams I'm not really interested in.
- Rochelle
Redskins FTW tonight.
- Paulo Nuin
I'm not looking forward to the 1st MNF - 2 of my least favourite teams :(
- Sally Church
can't, have a playoff baseball game :(
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Redskins? Are they in the 2nd division?
- Zee.
Playing Scunthorpe United tonight are they?
- Zee.
go GMEN! although it doesn't really matter what they do this season. (which is good 'cause it ain't gonna be much).
- Morgan
I am so ready to beat Drew Olanoff in fantasy football.
- Louis Gray
Go Santana Moss! [Fantasy Team]
- AJ Kohn
Plaxico on my fantasy team, baby.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Navy v. Ball State is on my agenda tonight.
- Andrew Leyden
Me!
- Jesse Stay
The game is starting right now? That's 4 my time. I'm still at work! And I have to go to Costco after work. And there are awesome hotdogs at Costco and... what's that about a game again?
- Chrimmus Tad
Tad, get a TiVo, man!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Ummmm.... I've had a Tivo since 99. :P I'll just watch the end of the game and be about as happy as if I'd watched the whole thing. :)
- Chrimmus Tad
Go Giants! And my fantasy players :-)
- Dom
One of these days I should try the whole Fantasy Football thing. It's just I prefer my fantasy to include swords, magic and chics with huge freakin' knockers.
- Chrimmus Tad
1UP Tad. I like sports, and I play games like Worldwide Soccer Manager and Out of the Park Baseball, but every time my friends have tried to convince me to get in on a fantasy league, I just make my save and run away.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Finally! FOOTBALL, baby!!!
- Steven Perez
Funny, the Redskins played as drearily as McCain's anti-Washington speech last night
- Sally Church
2 Million Cancer Cases Tied to Tobacco Use - http://www.livescience.com/health...
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Surprised it's only 2 million
- Dom
Blocked my 3rd or 4th person today. Someone that replied to one of Dave Winer's posts...
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The Gender Genie - http://bookblog.net/gender...
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Test your blog posts - are you male or female?
- Sally Church
from Bookmarklet
LOL I tested 6 of mine at random - 5 male and 1 female; it's supposed to be 80% accurate. Must be the science content that does it for me.
- Sally Church
I have both male and female blog posts too.
- Morton Fox
I'm gonna be a star
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Make your own magazine covers at http://www.magmypic.com
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I really like the Bride Cover
- RAPatton
i dont know what is going on in your group wedding photo but it screams mafia to me
- Bartek Ciszkowski
I need to make my own Moron mag cover! Awesome! Shey we'll have to have a Moron-Off to see who's the Moron of the Century!
- Chrimmus Tad
@Tad I got more moron than you can handle :P
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
It would have been sweet if it was spelled MORAN..hehe
- Far
shey "more moron" = win
- Toby Graham
lol@Far +1
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Nomination for best post so far today - Shey ... 'You are funny man'
- Charlie Anzman
pretty believable looking.
- edythe
Haha .. those look great ! I love the one in the center. "Shey gonna have relations .. Shey gonna have relations"
- Mattb4rd
I can't get beyond the "Moron" face...it's priceless!
- Far
Even Shey the Moron looks like a guy I would have a lot of fun with over conversation and a glass of wine.
- jcunwired
Inspired by Mona: http://beta.friendfeed.com/e...
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Those pics are way cool - much more interesting than the newstand I just passed.
- Sally Church
Shey...these are frackin' great!!
- JA Castillo
Thanks all :)
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Shey, they looked just right for each cover. I reckoned you took awhile selecting the respective images for each cover?
- Jonathan Kong
@Jonathan Not really, after seeing the covers they just came to mind
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
OMG!!!! Shey, what have you done!!!!
- Jasmin Smith
OMG!!! Speell my name right!! :P
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
LOL!!
- Lisa L. Seifert
@Shey.. I was in such SHOCK when I saw it! besides.. you know I can't speel! :P :)
- Jasmin Smith
Thanks Abby :) Yes, it's quite the "money shot" :P
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Shey, the "fashion icon" cover is classic, totally original gangsta meets mafia. CLASSIC!
- Rob Diana
@Rob Yeah it's one of my favs :)
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
That Fashion one is definitely gangsta. The Bride one is awesome. They should pick that up :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
heh - I used to do my own magazine covers, about ten years ago. But for actual magazines. http://tindale.dyn.nu/folio/
- Ian Tindale
The middle one looks like a real mag pic - gorgeous :)
- Dom
Except that a real graphic designer wouldn't run type right across someones eyes. Slide the whole photo down about 10mm, and it'll be fine. And flip it left-right, so that she's on the left edge - for visibility if competing mags are stacked horizontally with just the edge showing.
- Ian Tindale
*love* the middle one
- Anna Haro
great pics Shey!! I love the middle pic the most! moron pic is 2nd!
- Susan Beebe
Shey... not that you're a moron by any means, but that is TOTALLY an awesome pic for moron of the year.
- mjc
What's that deep-burning-near-the-stomach feeling I get whenever I read comments? People seem to be at their worst when anonymous.
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And why do they almost always involve the $ sign? Eh?
- Yuvi
$hit.
- James Ferguson
Maybe it has to do with the fact that I sometimes google for "Product X sucks" and then go read the forums that come up? Where Product X is a piece of technology?
- Yuvi
M1<r0$0f+ $u<kz m4n
- Mark Trapp
$|_|/\/ 2 d05 /\/\4\/\
- Yuvi
but I get the exact opposite feeling when reading comments on stuff i've posted on FF :)
- Iain Baker
@Iain - I guess the real early adopters of Digg too felt the same way. I'd expect the kids to turn up when FriendFeed gets real popular.
- Yuvi
@Iain - In a way, it's good FriendFeed has no notion of 'Karma' :)
- Yuvi
Well let's hope that FF doesn't go the same way as YouTube
- Sally Church
@Sally - Youtube is hopeless. I presume it was like 'that' from the beginning?
- Yuvi
Yuvi, you're absolutely right!
- Iain Baker
YouTube used to be quite civilized until the rednecks and trolls discovered it
- Dom
If they decide to start showing up, I plan to start blocking.
- Jordan Hofker
@Jordan - You can block only till a certain limit. After that, you just pack up and leave.
- Yuvi
@Yuvi: A limit coded into FriendFeed as to the maximum number of blocks a user can make, or the point at which one just gives up on fighting the junk? I'm thinking the latter; am I correct?
- Voyagerfan5761
@Voyagerfan - The latter.
- Yuvi
@Yuvi: Yay, I win! :D Sounds like what happened to me with YouTube comments. I never read them any more. Same with ICHC-network blog comments. Nothing much to read there, either.
- Voyagerfan5761
With a colleague I'm doing a kind of "social web for scholars" session later this week and, of course, I want to highlight Friendfeed. So I have a couple of questions for the assembled Friendfeed masses:
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First, are there any emerging social norms for FF that I might want to mention, like how you decide to subscribe to people, what the protocol is for when people subscribe to you, etc. I'm just looking for impressions that people might have.
- John Dupuis
Second. When I came on, I already knew a bunch of Library & Science types that were already here so I could plug in pretty quickly. But say I'm a historian coming to FF for the first time and don't already have contacts. How do I connect with that community? I'm thinking of this in terms of demoing FF to a bunch of fairly random faculty who might have this particular question. Thanks!
- John Dupuis
I would just do a search in the everyone search box for the historian and subscribe to relevant people from that
- Jean-Claude Bradley
In terms of norms specific to FF, I think that redundancy is to be expected and is ok. There are so many ways to flag events or posts and things fly by very fast here.
- Jean-Claude Bradley
I haven't noticed any universal social norms. One of the nice things about FF is that even if your updates are private (as mine are), you can let people read your stuff without being forced to read theirs. I think many people in my situation are a good deal looser about whom they approve as followers vis-a-vis whom they actually follow; I know I am.
- D0r0th34
the way I got started was to import all my Facebook contacts who were in FF. That gave me a start, then I started to see comments to & from people I knew in FB, and I started to "friend" them here. Also, I joined a community or two here, which let me see more people I might want to friend.
- Stephanie_Thankful
I started by subscribing to everyone whose blog I already read -- after that, interesting people started showing up without me having to look for 'em.
- Bill Hooker
Thanks everyone. My challenge is to figure out how to tie into a network where I don't already have a starting place. Jean-Claude, just searching on, say, historian, doesn't work as well as I'd hoped it would. The tough thing is finding the *first* friend.
- John Dupuis
I tend to seed my contact list with people I find interesting and from there network effects take over. I was here before most of the life science types, so didn't have quite the set of people to hook into
- Deepak Singh
I didn't start with people from my community of science outreach - instead, I got roped in by people from the open science community, which is more of a hobby interest for me. I still haven't found much outreach community here, actually, but I get a lot of value from the people that are here. Perhaps there's a service that could be offered here: lists of most interesting people in various fields, as starting points for newcomers?
- Jen Dodd
I spent a lot of time on Twitter first finding out who was interesting and posted things that appealed to me, so once I joined FriendFeed, I added the most interesting ones of that group and went from there as more life scientists joined in.
- Sally Church
What I like most about FF is that the community builds itself. I found some of the "usual suspects" from other networks when I first started, but I've connected with just as many if not more new people. If people like your content they subscribe to you, you reciprocate, it goes from there. It's one of the only communities I know that builds around content first, people second - which is why it works.
- Neil Saunders
I think it depends a lot on what you're after and how many people you are able to follow. I will admit to a bit of 'pruning' from time to time where I try to find out who the most effective people to connect through are. But I think this is leading to biases in what I see which would be interesting to try and address. Its difficult to distinguish between a bias in what you are seeing versus a bias overall in friendfeed users (I still think eg there are very few active chemists - but am I right about this?)
- Cameron Neylon
I prune as well, though not for networking purposes -- more "this person is kinda driving me nuts." Which is invariably more a reflection on me than them.
- D0r0th34
I happened on FF by following a posting from a librarian and well-regarded Open Access advocate (I had come across her blog in my Google Reader recommendations). I currently subscribe to what seems to be a mixture of scientists, technologists and librarians. The only criteria I have applied to my FF subscriptions is a general consistency in posts that interest me. I've only blocked one subscription and that was because of some puerile anti-French postings.
- Garret McMahon
I just subscribed to people that I knew from Twitter and blogs, if their FriendFeed wasn't too noisy (I only subscribe to people who have mostly work stuff in their feeds). Then I discovered a few others via seeing people's "Likes". I try to keep it balanced - enough people in my FF that I discover interesting stuff and discussions, but not so many that it's impossible to follow.
- Richard Akerman
One other interesting aspect of FF which might appeal to faculty -- esp. a bunch of "fairly random" ones -- is the interdisciplinary nature of it. I "see" folks here from other areas of LIS, which is neat -- but also from various aspects of science, not just brain / cognitive science, which is neater.
- Stephanie_Thankful
just gotta say a public thank you to Robert Scoble. God knows what time it is in SF at the moment, yet he still took the time to speak to me, which frankly is legendary stuff in my book. We've gotta appreciate the fact that we haven't got a prick conducting the web world here, this guy is decent.
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Wow, thanks. I just like talking to my FriendFeed friends cause they are all cool. OK, now I gotta get some sleep and pack for the morning. So no more calls tonight. See ya in Berlin on Tuesday.
- Robert Scoble
no diggity.
- Zee.
Zee, he's been the same to me as well, someone you can be true friends with, yet he has thousands of them that he all treats the same. He's top notch in my book as well. Keep it up, Robert.
- Jesse Stay
Group hug? :-)
- Slappy Line
Despite his success, Scoble is one of the most genuine accessible people you'll ever know.
- Thomas Hawk
my mental image of "conducting the web world" seems to be closely related to the Phantom Tollbooth.
- idnan
i agree. i've known him for awhile now and always enjoy bumping in to him. he always makes time to chat. and like you said, he takes the time to reply. and he does it with a smile. i also love the mention of the phantom tollbooth here. lol!
- Jodi Church
I agree. I don't even know the guy and he even took the time to email me back a fee times.
- iGerard
Robert rocks!
- Mitchell Tsai
Got to speak to Robert for the first time, at the FatBurger meetup in Las Vegas during #NME. Certainly surprised me with how genuine and pleasant he was (is). Look forward to the next time and to have a real conversation when I'm not beat from running around Vegas all day!
- Paul Salzman
from twhirl
People who do Tech Support - Hats off. It sure does suck.
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Yes, it does. Especially when working for a call center that expects every call to be resolved in less than 12 minutes.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
@Jack - That sounds 'ULTRA' Crappy. Maybe I should try an experiment and work at a call center for a coupla months - I will probably easily get accepted 'coz my English is pretty good. See if the claims are as good/bad as they are claimed to be.
- Yuvi
@Jack, I feel ya (used to work in a telecomm call center before I became a trainer). Depending on the department calls were goaled for anywhere from 240 to 640 seconds ... Which made it suck even more when you got one that took half an hour. @Yuvi: if you've never worked in a call center, it's worth a try. It takes a lot of patience, and explaining something technical to someone who doesn't know the details can be exceedingly difficult.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Stupid - I would, but I have this tendency to lose patience pretty fast. I just broke a packet of biscuits yesterday.
- Yuvi
My husband was the same way, Yuvi: we met at this callcenter, and he was escorted out the door a month later. It's not a job just anybody off the street can do and do well.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
"Yuvi broke a packet of biscuits!" now that is funny! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Note - Apparently, our Biscuits aren't what Americans call Biscuits. Those are called cookies in the US.
- Yuvi
I did tech support for over 5 years. Absolutely, completely burned out on it.
- Phil G
Yes, Yuvi, US cookies = UK biscuits. There are a lot of difference like that, plus a load of spelling differences.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Well just do not throw up UR cookies! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
3 years of tech support. One day I just couldn't go back anymore, and it had nothing to do with the people on the phone.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
I did it for a total of about 4 years. Part of what finally hacked me off at my last job was getting put onto helpdesk after I told my supervisor that I couldn't do it. He had the gall to look surprised when I turned in my resignation. That kind of work is hard for anyone to do long-term.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
It was hard for me to accept that after several years of helping people with their computer problems on forums, I burned out on help desk work. I worked for both Gateway and D-Link. There's no way you can provide good customer support on networking issues in 12 mins. or less. I'm never going to do that again.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Its a hard job and hence they get paid big bucks on CrossLoop :)
- Mrinal Desai
Working phones is hard regardless of industry, but especially one that involves a relatively technical troubleshooting process. And I swear, people will say things to you over the phone they wouldn't dare repeat to someone over a counter.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I've done tech support as a job and a relative for, oh, 30 years now. Yes, it can suck, but I just keep a good attitude about it. At least people are asking me for help...
- Bill Sodeman
I'm in Workstation Support. At our organization, the people who answer the phones rarely go out on the floor. The footwork is what my group does. I absolutely loathe the idea of answering phones. Apparently folks really let their frustrations show with the first point of contact, and gratitude is what I see when I get there.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
New study shows health benefits of probiotic could extend to the entire body - http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_rel...
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Might be useful for patients undergoing radiation. Have you seen any data on this?
- Dom
Oddly, there was something in Forbes on this recently, but peer reviewed science papers? I'll check it out as need doing a client project on probiotics and will research a blog post on the topic too.
- Sally Church
When a picture tells a thousand words - using Wordle for interpretation - http://oncochat.typepad.com/oncocha...
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Although you should fix up the HTML links to the Wordle gallery ;)
- Neil Saunders
Yup, just did - not sure what happened with the html links
- Sally Church
Also, note that Wordle looks up their RSS feeds, afaik - So you really get only the last 20 posts or so.
- Yuvi
Yuvi: Thx, I didn't realise it was only the last 20 or so. Mind you, the exercise was interesting and I learned a lot such as not to over use obscure words like TRAF3 and NIK, which hardly anyone is going to be searching on.
- Sally Church
Why not write about the big tumor types more often instead of myeloma? Ah yes, you prefer blood cancers, sorry ;-)
- Dom
You can also see a Tech Geek analysis from Hutch Carpenter http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008... using Wordle. I love this graphical presentation of content and feeds.
- Sally Church
We watched part of a show on Discovery Science tonight that was discussing nano-tech in a matter of fact fashion tonight. Everything from making robots that run around in your bloodstream to nano-assemblers and desktop fabricators. 8 years ago I told people about that and they thought I was nuts.
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The most amazing thing: The fabricator scientist guy they interviewed said it was on the time table to have a Star Trek like replicator in 20 years. I'm floored they see it coming around that soon.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Hehe, yeah we were talking about it here http://tinyurl.com/6z7bfl
- Alex Scoble
Cool, Alex :)
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Can you imagine the changes to society if we all have replicators and if they get that fusion energy stuff going? It would get rid of the need for money... get rid of the class distinctions of rich and poor... how would society change? Government? Religion? "Working for a living"?
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Just getting fusion energy into production would bring big changes to our society.
- Alex Scoble
Nano tech is going to change everything EVERYTHING think industrial revolution only tiny.
- Geoff Schultz
I'm sure in small ways nanotech is already changing our lives. I'd be willing to bet that fledgling use of nanotech has helped Intel, IBM and AMD get distance between pathways in CPUs down to almost unbelievably small distances.
- Alex Scoble
Lindsay and Alex: I did a high-school science project on inertial- and magnetic-confinement fusion. I was so sure we'd have working fusion power by now. I hate I was wrong about that. I wasn't looking for "Mr. Fusion" or anything like that, just cheap, clean, plentiful power.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Back when I first read about nano-tech in the late 90's it seemed so far away. I think we might see amazing things in my lifetime... and my son is the even luckier one.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I remember less than 10 years ago when they said that the 150nm distance could not physically be broken...and here we are looking CPUs soon having distances of 20nm.
- Alex Scoble
nanobots are going to turn me into the Highlander
- Geoff Schultz
There can only be one, Geoff.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I think it's interesting to take a look at current carbon nanotube research and think about how it could affect commercial products in just a few years. The materials will be so strong and lightweight. Think of the impact on transportation energy requirements.
- Jason Wehmhoener
So...what was that book where the nanotech became self-aware and decided to kill all humans?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I think we're further away from real A.I. than we are from applicable nano-tech. Seems it's harder to replicate a human consciousness from scratch than it is to build things from molecules.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Just sayin...maybe they are closer related than we think....and we find out way too late....*cue ominous danger suspense movie music*
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
*quakes in boots*
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Future of carbon fiber in cars: http://nextbigfuture.com/2008...
- Jason Wehmhoener
self-assembling polymer arrays improve data storage potential http://www.sciencedaily.com/release...
- Jason Wehmhoener
scientists overcome nanotech hurdle http://www.physorg.com/news137...
- Jason Wehmhoener
Just keep me alive long enough for the holodeck.
- dkb
Self Replicating nanobots wouldnt have to have AI to destroy the world they could simply consume and reproduce till there is nothing left. Think that is called the Grey Earth theory or something idono.
- Geoff Schultz
It's called Grey Goo and most of the experts (K Eric Drexler in particular) are no longer horribly concerned about it. It's yet another reason why nanotech research should be considered vitally important to the US's interest, regardless of our current administrations fear and distrust of science.
- Chrimmus Tad
I fell asleep watching it but have it recorded for tonight. I love it when people think past the current barriers of science and tech.
- Josh Haley
Tad, Yeah I am not overy concerned with it but I am happy that we consider the implications of our work. It helps us to develop safeguards against such things. It is great to see science in action.
- Geoff Schultz
News: Scientists Develop Method to Identify Pluripotent Stem Cells . Genetic Engineering & Biotechnology News - Biotechnology from Bench to Business - http://www.genengnews.com/news...
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"An international team of investigators determined that pluripotent stem cell lines display significant chemical similarity. The cell samples used in the study all had a particular protein-protein network in common. The network, named PluriNet by the team, points to the factors that enable these cells to differentiate into multiple cell types. Using a collection of about 150 human cell samples, the researchers created a database of global gene expression profiles using Illumina’s BeadArray technology. “Our results offer a new strategy for classifying stem cells by their molecular machinery,” says Jeanne Loring, Ph.D., director of the Center for Regenerative Medicine at Scripps Research Institute. “We show that pluripotence and self-renewal are under tight control by specific molecular networks.”"
- Attila Csordas
from Bookmarklet
Story Pitch: Microsoft’s “flattened” Windows 7 team and what it means for business - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
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@Robert - how are you planning to "track" / follow the chatter on this topic coming out of Redmond? Will you get phone calls? email? Tweets? IM? DM? What does MSFT typically do when they reach out to you? Do they often reach out to you or do you usually go out and seek specific teams/products to go interview and write about? Curious about your past process of engagement.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Brian: Frank Shaw is on Twitter and has my phone and email. I've gotten Microsoft stories all sorts of strange ways. First of all, back when I worked there I never dealt with PR -- I'd hear about interesting things on their email mailing lists, or I'd find out about stuff through the grapevine and just call up the dev involved and asked if I could come over. Now, though, I can still do that somewhat, but usually I have to get PR involved at some point since there are rules inside companies against ...
- Robert Scoble
...talking to the press without having a PR person in the room. Frank already Twittered me once tonight, so it'll be interesting to see what he says in the morning.
- Robert Scoble
Believe me, I know all about those rules working in the enterprise SW space for a publicly traded company. Can't wait to see what kind of response you get though. btw - great to see you again and meet Maryam in person. Good times!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Nice post Robert. Did there really used to be 8 levels? Wow, that would have been a bundles of laughs. Or pain.
- Stu Andrews
from twhirl
Stu: that's what my friend said. He might have been off one level, though.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Yeah okay. Even so, still boggles my small-devteam mind though.
- Stu Andrews
from twhirl
Enjoyed this piece - some interesting insights and ideas about development. It will be interesting to see if Robert gets to follow this story further, in the way that he wants to.
- Mark Dykeman
I can understand MS not wanting him to gain that access, but man I hope they do. Big step for Robert, big step for MS, big step for the importance of the blog as a medium for change.
- Stu Andrews
from twhirl
Robert, great article, or entry or whatever they are called these days. Really enjoyed reading it and for a change I don't disagree with you on it. Will be interested to hear how things shape up
- Jonathan Jesse
that's a great idea/article, and i hope you get the access you want. i would love to follow that story!
- idnan
I really hope you get this article. From a software development perspective I would be extremely interested to see how these changes affect the quality of work produced. There is just so much potential for some great knowledge to come out of this work, I think you would definitely do it justice :)
- Devlin Dunsmore
Gnomedex 8.0 Review - http://www.davidrisley.com/2008...
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Debunking The Myths of Multitasking [Exclusive Lifehacker Interview] - http://friendfeedlinks.com/show...
Motivating people to write the semantic web: A conversation with David Huynh - http://blog.jonudell.net/2008...
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A must read blog post, and a must listen podcast
- Deepak Singh
There is No Social Media Overload - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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How does Mona beat me? Heheh. I think Louis gave her the secret back door to FriendFeed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Mona gives me permission to post and to comment. She is my filter.
- Louis Gray
AND I commented on his blog before you, Robert! :) LG, you are a machine! You posted the comment RIGHT as I was typing this out... =| You = Internet
- Mona Nomura
Mona: :-) I'm going for the slower, more thoughtful approach. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I too, will soon reach your level, Robert... that and cutting back on caffeine :)
- Mona Nomura
I wonder what your thoughts are on video socnets - vimeo, seesmic, and the like.
- Pete Delucchi
Mona: Did you remember what I said you in your first days in FF?
- Erhan Erdogan
Erhan, apologies, I do not...
- Mona Nomura
Mona: SheScoble : )
- Erhan Erdogan
Erhan, no way!
- Mona Nomura
Mona: I think I remember something like that. Didn't remember who it came from though...
- Justin Korn
Mona: I think the posting time depends on when you 'open your post box'. So click comment before you like... if you want a race... To be safe, you can always post one word really fast, reopen, and edit.
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitch: I was just kidding :)
- Mona Nomura
Starting to think Mona has four iPhones and two personal assistants :)
- Charlie Anzman
Photo shows stars are born in huge cosmic wombs - USATODAY.com - http://www.usatoday.com/tech...
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"A glitzy new family portrait of a star-forming region supports a theory that the universe's most massive stars carve out these wispy wombs and thereby enable stellar embryos to take shape. The infrared photograph, which will be detailed in the Dec. 1 issue of The Astrophysical Journal, bolsters a long-held theory of star formation."
- Robert Seidman
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Tech support woes. We has it. - http://ihasahotdog.com/page/7/
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@Tad - what's the url to the FireFox extension you use that shows you FF comments in different colors?
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Come on, Tad... I know you're FFeeding!! :P
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Beats me... installed that a long time ago,
- Chrimmus Tad
He's too busy 'wookin pa nub' in Second Life.
- Akiva Moskovitz
LOL @ Akiva!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Tad look in your Add-ons list then, goofus!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
i use cleaner friendfeed - and love it...might be helpful? http://userstyles.org/styles...
- Zee.
oh, you need greasemonkey though...
- Zee.
That's not the exact one, Zee but it does what I was looking for! Thanks! I already had Stylish installed so it works fine.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Cleaner FriendFeed is also included with Better FriendFeed. Neat littel checkbox
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
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