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Google Reader's 'People you follow' is useful only if you want a stream of links with absolutely no context. My honeymoon with Reader is almost over.
masstrovato, Chris Myles, metalerik and 28 other people liked this
And I'm just starting to find it useful! :p
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
I was going to say the same thing about FriiendFeed FOAFs.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
FOAFs on FriendFeed are actually useful, though. They come from people who those you've subscribed to have, in a sense, vetted. You can immediately see where they came from, you can hide individual sources, you can hide entire people, you can hide individual sources from all people, etc. There is no control over there.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I have mostly jumped ship with google reader. I have some feeds that port into my phone app and that's about it. Can't really stand the interface..
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
from Android
Jonathan, yeah I hate the UI too. I was using NetNewsWire but gave the UI a good, solid go to mess around with the social aspects. I'm going back to NWW until Google stops half-assing their way to nowhere.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Hey now. I was just at Google HQ today, and met with the Reader team. They are doing a good job in my opinion. Sometimes, their philosophy is to release early and iterate, so when you do find issues, please do call them out in a way that they can help with. They're one of the good guys.
- Louis Gray
Louis, it's always different when you can put a face on it (usually); I don't have that kind of opportunity, though. As for just reading feeds, Reader's good. Its popularity should attest to that. But the social stuff tacked on top of it feels, well, just tacked on top of it. This certainly doesn't mean that it can't get better or that the Reader guys aren't doing a good job. But I do feel like the social aspects of Reader simply haven't jelled yet. They're there but they feel like a side dish.
- Akiva Moskovitz
It's a cool feed reader, but I'd rather follow people and GR doesn't do that part well.
- Rodfather
Louis.. just as an FYI you have a LOT more push with Google than any of us common folk.. I report bugs, enhancement and feature requests and I RARELY get feedback or status updates. It's not just a Reader thing, it a general Google issue because support doesn't scale as easily as their software does!! As a user and developer it can be incredibly frustrating and painful to develop products that rely on a combination of Google Products and APIs.
- Chris Myles
Interesting context, Akiva. I've put together enough of a little social group over there, that, even including yourself, as folks share things they enjoy on Google Reader, I actually pay less and less attention to the hundred or so feeds I have dumped in there. Instead I jump to the comments section, and I just check out what folks are talking about. It's far more social and entertaining than pouring over the dry old feeds that used to cycle through there for me.
- Pete Delucchi
Pete, I'm not denying that one can generate a community over there. My complaints are mainly in the UI. First, comments are completely independent of everything else. Second, there is no sense of organization in the 'People You Follow' section: it's just a mass of feed entries that are in no way identified. I have no idea where a particular entry comes from so, in a lot of cases, I have...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
I've got kind of a bias against gReader, so I've stayed mostly quiet as people have talked about it. gReader has sucked all the oxygen out of the RSS feed space so there's not nearly as much innovation as should be happening there.
- mikepk
Chris, I am common folk. As I've been writing about Reader and using Reader a ton for 3 years, I've gotten lucky enough to know some of the people on the team. What's often unsaid is that building at the scale of Google is very hard. Synchronizing services like Reader with things like Contacts/Chat/Gmail, etc. takes work too, so these things will sometimes take longer than we like.
- Louis Gray
That said, I have tried just about all the feed readers out there. After all, I am RSS obsessed. Google Reader is the best way to read feeds fast, and share them with the world. The link blog is the killer app. Now, they are trying to turn that killer app into a community and conversation, and I think we are at the early stages of seeing what they end up with. (Speculation - not based on any inside knowledge)
- Louis Gray
sort of like when they just share them in globs here, pointless
- sofarsoShawn
Akiva, If you're looking at it in list view, yeah, it's hard to tell what's what. I don't know if my way of interacting with my RSS feeds, or GReader specifically is unique, but I've got the the thing overstuffed with feeds and friends. Within a day or two, there's a 1,000+ entries. I never look at it but more than 10-15 minutes a day. I just don't have time for it. So, I just keep it...
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- Pete Delucchi
Louis, I know some people love gReader, but I don't think it's really an application for the mainstream. Problem is, developers are a lot more reticent to develop alternate paradigms for feed reading because gReader is a) free and b) backed by the 800 lb gorilla.
- mikepk
Louis, and don't forget, I've been hyping Google as the next strong contender in the social media field. Personally, and this post here reflects this opinion, I believe that all Google is missing is integration across the board. Reader with Profiles with Talk, etc. As you point out, it's tough getting synchronization across products will be tough and even if I give up on Reader now and go back to NetNewsWire, it doesn't mean I won't be cheering them on.
- Akiva Moskovitz
And the thing that annoys me most of about google reader. It may seem a minor thing.... They sort items by the date which *they* read them, which to me loses a large amount of temporal context to any larger number of feeds. Long tail feeds that have any large amount of flow can get "clumped" together by as much as 2hour increments, losing a lot of information in the process.
- mikepk
Pete, for me, I apply an Inbox Zero approach toward feeds as well. I don't have OCD but I can't stand seeing that I have unread entries and I don't like just marking them all read when I haven't skimmed them because I don't want to miss anything good. So, for me, and my use case, Google Reader is good for solo feed reading alone. I've added people there but it's too frustrating to keep up with their combined feed of contextless stuff.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm a fan of Reader as a feed reader, and many of the features like Send To have really improved it for that, but the comment and sharing functionality seem pretty immature and outright confusing in some cases. If FriendFeed disappeared I'd probably just hop over to reader, but I really hope that doesn't happen until they've had a chance to improve things substantially over there.
- Ken Sheppardson
me = dead-horse-abuser but, read/unread is a really poor way to deal with any significant number of feeds.
- mikepk
Akiva, for me "From your 105 subscriptions, over the last 30 days you read 842 items" <-- of course this doesn't show how many I marked as read. Probably 10 times that, at least.
- Pete Delucchi
Akiva, when you say feed of contextless stuff, do you mean their shares, like the shares I put into FriendFeed?
- Louis Gray
Louis, correct. I just see a list showing me who shared it, the title, the blurb, and the date. Although I'm not sure what the date is: is it when it was shared? when it was posted? Here on FriendFeed, I see who shared it and when and where it was shared from. I would just like to know what the source is. And, well, the ability to hide all future shares from that source.
- Akiva Moskovitz
What I need is something between the list view and the expanded view. An excerpted view, if you will. The list view doesn't give enough information and the expanded view gives it all.
- Akiva Moskovitz
It is the date it was shared, not posted.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Here I go, unabashedly pimping my wishlist for Google Reader once again: http://socialgeek.posterous.com/my-simp...
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Holden, about that God of FF thing... was there a vote that I'm not aware of? Isn't it a little presumptuous considering your stats?
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Is it okay for me to spam my own thread with my own blog? I hope so because here goes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.misanthropicgeek.com/2009...
- Akiva Moskovitz
Hi all- I work on the Reader team and Louis pointed this thread out to me today. (sorry I missed it) I'd like to address a couple of the points all over this comment thread, (which is great by the way) First -- Chris-I wouldn't use the word 'easily' to describe scaling a service like reader ;) Second --Akiva-- You mention that you can't identify where the feed item that was shared came...
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- Jenna Bilotta
As for the higher-level point: the social layer in Reader is just starting to mature, and we've made a product decision that we are still primarily an efficient reading app. The reason why the social stuff has historically seemed separate, is because we want to preserve people's top priority, which we believe is jamming through a few thousand items a day. :) Comments and social is...
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- Jenna Bilotta
BUT, We are here, and we listen to as many channels as we can. We are a small team that likes to launch early and often, which is why somethings might seem "unfinished" or some larger (obvious) integrations not completed yet. Please, continue this dialog and just know we are listening and working away! :)
- Jenna Bilotta
Wow, Jenna, thanks for taking the time out to address this stuff. I can't even begin to tell you how far this goes in not only encouraging my hope for these new features but in bringing down the wall a little bit between you and your users. It's funny, too, that I was coming to the same conclusions in the post I just linked to. Sometimes it's more about the user's expectations than it is the software's functionality. Keep up the great work!
- Akiva Moskovitz
And, I do think a Summary View has some merit. A line with some title and share information and 2-8 lines of excerpt below that, and perhaps another line below with some other information or functionality.
- Akiva Moskovitz
THanks for the feedback/response, Jenna. There is much good, and also much that is unwieldy with the Google Reader interface. The hierarchical structure is the most challenging, and lack of duplicate warnings - the same feed can appear in multiple folders, the same entry appears many times if shared by multiple people, and the whole putting people into groups is pointless.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Putting people into groups would be useful if you could view by group. However, I'd like to be able to customize my own groups.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Jenna: One of the things I find frustrating is the lack of read/unread status in the Comment view. When I'm viewing a feed or someone I'm following, I can can view "new items" or "all items", but when I go to Comments view, I get "Items with comments" or "All shared items"... which doesn't make sense, because I'm in *Comments* view to begin with. I'd really like to see the same choice here as with feeds: either items with *new* comments, or all items with comments.
- Ken Sheppardson
Jenna, thanks! Akiva, happy that she jumped onto this thread and addressed your concerns. :)
- Myrna
Jenna, thanks for listening and your comments!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
@akiva - summary view is sort of what we are calling "Super snippet" it's what we use in comment view and search view. There is merit to considering this type of view for regular feed reading as well, for precisely the reasons you mention.
- Jenna Bilotta
@Aaman - The same feed possibly appearing in multiple folders is a feature (if you can believe it). it's best to think of Reader folders like Gmail labels or tags. the folder name can apply to individual items, whole feeds or feeds can appear in multiple folders. This is something that is embedded in Google philosopy (we call it "Multi-inclusion") because it gives people the most...
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- Jenna Bilotta
@Ken - When you click on "expand this item" in comment view, it marks the item in your normal feed view as read, but doesn't otherwise. Comment view is optimized for conversations, not items, so we only show it in order of most recent comment. Your feedback makes sense though, and I'll note it for when we update comment view. Thanks!
- Jenna Bilotta
Whew! Alright folks, I'm off to sleep now. Keep the feedback coming if you like, or join the "Google Reader" friendfeed group, which I track closely. (so I don't miss more threads like this.) You can find it here: http://friendfeed.com/google-...
- Jenna Bilotta
Jenna: I actually never noticed the "Expand this item" link in the comment view... with lots of text links all over the place (vs buttons) I tend to get lost sometimes and can't distinguish between links that are part of Reader and what's part of the item. I appreciate seeing comments in reverse chron, but in "j"ing through the list of items, I have a hard time recognizing which comments I've read and which I haven't.
- Ken Sheppardson
Main missing item: a My Discussion view, where one can see all items commented and liked.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
@Louis, I certainly understand the complexity issues and the time it takes to integrate them all. I'm certainly not complaining about Reader, I use it, Love it and "sell it" to all of my friends, the additional social features make it even more interesting. Developing products that use the APIs and Products is where it becomes difficult. I also think you have more pull then you realize, I certainly would never be invited into Google for a chat!!
- Chris Myles
@Jenna I certainly wasn't trying to describe the software scaling issues as easy, but Google has obviously nailed it, Reader, YouTube, Blogger, Picasa, Maps, Earth etc. What Google hasn't nailed is the support to those millions of users. The customer support forums are full of unsatisfied users who are trying to get *any* answer/feedback from Google, but support and customer...
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- Chris Myles
@Jenna BTW I'm not trying to pick on Google, I think customer support is a VERY difficult problem, especially with the number of users you have and the way Google products are compartmentalized. I have spent literally 100's of hours documenting bugs and feature/enhancement requests (in forums, groups and direct emails with PMs), but most of the time it seems like a complete waste of effort, considering I can get a guaranteed return by developing new features and/or supporting my customers.
- Chris Myles
I can't stand that Google Reader displays the feeds I subscribe to in a stream. I much prefer the boxes as offered by services like Netvibes. If Google would ever change their UI to something like that, I'd probably switch in a second.
- Miriam
"We do have an issue with "share with note" that creates a duplicate of the item and attaches the note, which is probably where you are seeing most of the siloing happen. That issue is being worked on.. but it's a bit hairy.. so it's going to take some time." <- Jenna, is this still going on?
- Marcos Marado
http://twitpic.com/e9v55 - Checking the twitters with the boy
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Jason Calacanis, George Kelly, Jeremiah Owyang and 40 other people liked this
Nice picture. Eyes open, full head of hair too!
- Louis Gray
handsome boy!
- Jenna Bilotta
awwwwwwww tiny baby nose...
- Yolanda
He's gorgeous!
- Jesse Stay
awww cuddling dad whilst checking out his tweet already!
- Joan Lockwood
He's tiny!
- anna sauce
V. sweet. How old is he?
- Ayşe E.
Nice shot - beautiful boy!
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
Congratulations, Dad!
- Barb Siddiqui
Ok, that's it, I'm having one. No one try and stop me. :)
- Charlotte M
When is he going to get his own account?
- Chris Martin
from iPhone
Sweet picture :)
- Susan Beebe
ooohh mommy porn. luv it!!!
- Mrsth
two pensive guys! Grats @ev & @sara !
- dario
After signing the papers :)
Ozer Wrzl (EN), can catalyurek, Pelikan® and 495 other people liked this
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- jcunwired
What's with the fists, Paul? :)
- April Buchheit
congrats Paul
- Zee.
I thought it would make a funny picture April.
- Paul Buchheit
Secret backyard meetings FTW. :)
- EricaJoy
What? No lawyers in suits? Mark's setting a pretty low bar on the dress code for this sort of thing...:)
- Tomas Remotigue
Our lawyers were wearing shorts actually -- no air conditioning at their office on Sundays I guess.
- Paul Buchheit
Zuckerberg's the only one from FB who could be bothered to show up?
- Andy Bakun
American big business such a formal affair
- Robert Higgins
Contrary to popular misconception, lawyers don't actually enjoy wearing suits. Haul us into work on a Sunday, and we'll definitely be dressing comfortably. :)
- Brian Chang
Andy, the person on the left is Vaughan Smith from Facebook. Sanjeev (the fourth FriendFeed founder) is not pictured because he was boarding an airplane.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, that's so awesome. FB's an awesome company to do business with.
- Jesse Stay
Congrats. Happy for you guys.
- Tsega Dinka
Must have been exciting, congrats.
- sean percival
Congrats, and thanks for having us here. Much success in whatever comes next.
- Chris Baskind
Yeah, wishing you guys all the best, its been good fun hanging around here thanks!!
- Mel Buckpitt
Congrats to you guys!
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
Congratulations you guys!!!! I love the Teak Conference Room table :)
- Susan Beebe
:-(
- Jim Is Not Smart
Hey Paul congratulations - FriendFeed has been leading the way since its inception. Are the photos you've posted copy-protected or could I use them in a story on the deal?
- Mitch
Mitch, feel free to use the photos.
- Paul Buchheit
where's the ...friendfeed shirts then?? ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
SWEET!!! Congratulations!
- Chad Lester
...congrats.can't wait to see what happens with both FF and FB as a result of this.
- .LAG liked that
Please try to keep Friendfeed like it was if they let you. Either way, congrats on the financials!
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Congrats and best wishes for the future.
- Jeff Stannard
For $50m you could at least have hired a photographer who doesn't shake so much. :)
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
FF was the cutting edge whereas FB is quickly becoming the mainstream. Unfortunately, the mainstream does not necessarily equal innovation and pushing the envelope. We all suffer when innovation is chilled. But on the other hand, congrats to the FF crew. They made their money!
- laosan
Congratulations guys!
- Diego Barros
I think the Tiger suit would have been more appropriate! But hey....shorts in a backyard is pretty cool too.
- Drea Lester
Congrats!
- Christopher Golda
Whatever the outcome, Friendfeed is terrific. Congratulations.
- ashish
LOL, click through if you want to see pics of newly rich geeks in casual wear.. ->
- Alex Schleber
Hahaha! Funny Alex..
- Bill Heslin
congratulations! keep the innovation coming...
- ozlubling
VERY happy for you guys. Possibly even owe you one or two. Are we getting FriendPhone next?? Think Mark should seriously think about 'Friendbook' :)
- Charlie Anzman
Congratulations to you and your team.
- Maria Niles
just showed the pictures to my students and they were like, "they look like normal people!" Congrats on the deal, onward and upward!
- xxx xxxxx
Congratulations, Paul -- to you and everybody at FF.
- Eric Johnson
Congrats Paul, Bret and the rest of the team, this is awesome news! The big question on everyone's lips is: Who gets to have http://facebook.com/paul? :)
- Fenn
Congrats, and thanks for taking us all on such a terrific ride! Big ups. :)
- Pete Delucchi
You've done a great job! You deserve this and more... Congrats!
- Ricardo J. Valle
now this is what a deal term meeting should look like - file under inspirational -
- mediaeater
Congratulations to everyone at FF. Whose house was the deal made?
- seman
I am sad .. !!! I do not know .. why .. for me its not good news
- Nayan
Congratulations!
- Made Adi
++Mark
- David Cook
Awesome! Congratulations!
- michael silverton
hey, congratus Friendfeed team!!!
- K.D.
+Lindsey
- Kamilah Gill
I call this pic... "Six Happy Dudes & 1,000,000+ Pissed-Off FriendFeeders"
- Brad Williamson
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Looks like Mathew™ has found a UI bug by flooding contiguous characters.
- Jay Cuthrell
I don't get the negativity - did no one realize FriendFeed was a business? The object of a business is to sell eventually (either privately or publicly). We should be celebrating their success. This is a huge win for them, as well as Facebook. I personally think it's a huge win for the "loyal users" as well. So now we stab them in the back when they do something huge?
- Jesse Stay
Not to mention we know *nothing* about what this will mean for both services. These guys haven't let us down yet, have they?
- Jesse Stay
Congratulations to all of you!!
- Steve de Mena
The FB/FF deal rocks. Total win for users and developers.
- Steve Gillmor
Facebook announces the acquisition of FriendFeed http://facebookmania.net/en...
- Vincenzo Piromalli
Congratulations guys.. and good luck! ;)
- Vincenzo Piromalli
Congratulations Paul. I hope for nothing but the best for you and FF.
- Martha
We should start a PhotoShop meme on this.
- Ben Hanten
Millionaire meme
- Bill Heslin
Lindsey, I'm with you completely. Bad timing. Too bad there weren't photos of money being thrown in the air.
- Ben Hanten
++Ben
- David Cook
Congratulations Paul, you should have got more, but I guess $50m is nothing to sneeze at. Have a great wedding anniversary too, I'm sure you both deserve it. Much happiness - :)
- Chris Loft
Congrats! The hard work paid off
- Becca
Those are the kind of business meetings I could get used to - no suits... but selling to Facebook? Hmmm... Good for someone of course but I suppose we'll see where this ride takes us.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
congrats on building an amazing product and incredibly passionate community! I was mad at first, but then realize that the technology was most likely sold, not the community. I'm hoping ff community will stay somewhat untouched and features that have been built into ff will be ported to fb.
- Derek Coatney
Congratulations, FriendFeeders! I'm anxious to see what changes this will bring. FriendFeed is my favorite site to visit, so hopefully y'all will find a way to maintain the FF spirit somehow.
- Keith Pelczarski
No matter the type of big change, there are those who will not like it, often simply because it's change. I for one am very pleased that two of the services I use most are joining forces, and am eager to see the new developments that come of this acquisition. Congrats to EVERYONE on the FriendFeed team. You all deserve it! You've done a great job with a small company. Now lets see what you can do with a large one :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Nicely put, guruvan.
- Anne Bouey
What I wonder is ... a 50-million dollar deal and no one has a camera capable of taking a clear photo? :P
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Congratulations
- Steve C
@Jesse Stay re: "the objective of business is to sell eventually" : Ummm, the objective of many businesses is to become profitable by providing a valuable experience to their users. Businesses that feel they can't do that are the ones that sell.
- Shane Gibbons
LOL! ♫ ♫ "ooh, take the money and run"!! ♫ ♫ ;)
- Vincenzo Piromalli
Congratulations to everyone involved. Well done.
- Darius Dunlap
This is a very sad day in friend feed history. It is horrible because I like friend feed for how it's different from face book. I use facebook but I find it really annoying and I wouldn't use it if my friends and family weren't using it. So if Friend Feed becomes another facebook then i donno if I will keep coming to friend feed.
- Colide81 (James)
from iPhone
Grats. :)
- Joshua Schnell
Congrats to the FF staff, but you'll have to pardon my lack of exuberance. I have mental pictures of being forced to use the FB UI and it makes me sad =(
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Very happy for the Friendfeed team. These pictures say it all.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Congrats -- may the FF UI stay alive!
- RateBrain
Where are the photos of everyone celebrating? No beer or champagne?
- Shane
Great match-up guys ! The Fabulous Friender Boys ! - Let's see some integrated mashups and extensible apps and FF UI. Given Google and Twitter a run for their money... Looks like they are going to have to "hook-up" now !
- Mike Schmidt
Congratulations Paul and the team! Hopefully we'll still get the same simple UI for FriendFeed. I'm sure however that no matter what you do, things will turn up nicely.
- Ovidiu Predescu
Enjoy!
- Paul Mayne
NOOOOO! I _LOVE_ friendFeed and this will change it forever. Yeah - this will improve Facebook. Great deal guys - I can not wait to see how this works out
- Ric Johnson
Congratulations! :)
- İdris Cin
hayırlı olsun
- Sinan İŞLER
:O :(
- ★amin.m★
congratulations to both parties. intuitively, it feels like the right move.
- ray
Congratulations guys :)
- Yalcin Parmaksiz
So the deal was done at night in someone's back yard. Weird.
- Andy C
Congrats Paul, Bret and the rest of the FF team. Your smiles are priceless!!
- Mohamed J
Hayırlı işler...
- Onur Selek
Congratulations gentlemen!
- Mutimba
Congratulations Paul. Yes, I do hope Friendfeed users and community are "treated right".
- Paola Bonomo
shit all FF VC's and CO-FOUNDERS! YOU DID THE SHIT! you can safely accept all spam "app" invitations on FB.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Ahmet: I'm disappointed to even be on the same service as you and I really can't wait until you leave.
- Robert Scoble
Congrats! Maybe you'll make FB usable again...
- Eran Kampf
from iPhone
cngrtlti.ons I hope you will understand what i mean!
- Atif UNALDI
Great vibe :)
- Sharel
from FriendFeed API Example
@Scobleizer: Come on you're a genius and can not realize future of FF? Turkey was one of important countries which is using FF! They asked no one about this! We hate fcking morons and stupid people on facebook, and I'm sure that this post will be real, just read it: http://ff.im/6pRmM
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
But Ahmed you are still being an ass about it, trying to rain on their good times. Go find a hole under the bridge where you belong. You can be sad and not have to come out all bitchy about stuff. Clear thoughtful comments instead of going all into "fuck you" mode.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
OK, that's great. I hope you can be successful at Facebook Dev Team and enjoy spending that money.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Ahmet: I hope this helps with your inquiry -> http://friendfeed.com/about...
- Clifford Kennedy
@Clifford, haha LOL.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Bilseydik biz alırdık :)
- Hamdi Yaman
wohoo, lets celebrate that ff owners for selling the land they have hired us - now we have to find another place
- MobilAdam
very nice FF! Amazing team! - @RecruitingDiva
- Sangeeta Narayan
valla kelepire gitmiş, fotoğraflardan belli..
- Mücahit Yılmaz
Who took the pic?
- Marco Massarotto
from iPhone
@MobilAdam + 1.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
@Mücahit +1 :D
- Hamdi Yaman
böyle önemli bir iş için fiyat açıklanmadı ama 50 milyon $ deniyor. Bu kadar lakayt bir ortam olur mu yau. Uzaktan baksan gençler eğleniyor dersin
- Fatih Hayrioğlu
Şİmdi yorumları okumadım ama çok kişisel bişi söyleyeceğim. Bu gençlerin milyon dolarları çeviriyor olması durumuna şaşıyorum. Bizim memlekette bu seviyeye gelecek mi veya? Kaç sen uzaktalar bizden bu gençler?
- mustafa can
Bizim şirket sahipleri konunun belli saatler arasında, belli kıyafetlerle ofiste oturmak değil, yapılan işin niteliği olduğunu analdıkları zaman gelir tabii. Ama bence bu gavurların dediği gibi "When the hell freezes over".
- özlem ercan
bu postu türkçe commentlerle doldrmak süper fikir.. sarcasm diil ciddiyim
- MobilAdam
Bakmayın böyle güldüklerine arkada buyuk yatırımcılar olmasa batar gider bunlar..Adamların yatırımcıları işi biliyor...
- Zeki Pehlivan
tebrikler.congratulations.gratuliere !!!
- muratt
Sorry but as an FF user, I've just tried to express my thoughts about this acquisition: http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs46...
- İbrahim Özdemir
Congratulations! :)
- Ruben Sanchez
Great result Paul. In such a short time, millions of users, 1 new interface and a marriage with internets' celebrity. This is a period which you should write down to make it as an on-line business case. You people are really wise businessmen. Nice job, congrats! :)
- Olcayto Cengiz
Not happy happy congrats bullshit from me-I used FF.
- frankiecarl
Frankie, a lot of us use FriendFeed and are concerned about where things are going from here. As I said in my comment above: I'm happy for the staff but displeased with who they chose to sell to. I'm perfectly capable of feeling both emotions at the same time.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Tina ++++
- Shevonne
wonderful so normal so ordinary so simple
- Thomas Power
MZ looks like he has just returned from the gym
- Joe Dawson
These guys represent the most talked about entreprises (Ok even more so by geeks in the case of Friendfeed) and they're still in their 20s. We're talking millions of dollars and look how relax they look and casually they're dressed.
- lelapin
Awesome, nice to see they are actually in fact human still.
- Robert Schultz
Congratulations, Paul!
- Bill Sodeman
Great photographs showing the very reason why 99% of all people start their own business - money! Well done and good luck for the future.
- David Jagger
this is so great! congrats paul! im really happy for u guys!
- Jason Pollock
congratulations guys!
- Liam Daly
congratulations from me, too! mind to stay (y)ourselves. ;)
- Valentina*
L-O-V-E the attire, guys. Did you end the evening with a nice barbecue and a dip in the pool?
- Giulia B.
Yeah yeah, you worked hard, you got the payout, well done guys. Now. Down to business....where's OUR share? ;-)
- Slappy Line
"Hi my name is Mark, I do $50m deals in my shorts!"
- Simon May
Congratulations. I'm sad for us and extremely happy for you and your team.
- Arleen Anderson
congratulations...can't wait to see the success of the collaboration!
- Katy Barrilleaux
We better run away!
- Constantine
Congratulations. I'm sure that this acquisition will be beneficial for both parties.
- Volkan Özçelik
the one in the green shirt is hawt. just sayin'.
- Jessie
eew, that causes diseases
- Jim Norris
congrats Paul & evereyone !
- Thomas Mader
Is that Mel sitting on Paul's left? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- j1m
CHA CHING!!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
congrats guys - well done!!!
- Gerd Leonhard
supper!
- Ahmet Koldaguc
Business is Business and we can only move forward with social-media applications as we herald a new interactive platform. Albeit thanks to the Mothers of all Mothers, Google. Frank Burns
- frank burns
Barnes & Noble partners with Plastic Logic; Opens up; Targets Kindle | Between the Lines | ZDNet.com - http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL...
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interesting ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
from Bookmarklet
"I predict a return to blogging as people discover the power of being able to finish a thought" http://www.scripting.com/stories...
Annarella G., david beckwith, Tac Anderson and 154 other people liked this
I had thought blogging has been growing steadily, globally. Admittedly I don't have a good chart/stats for it.
- Mark Essel
I really like this statement - but will people return to blogging as we've known it?
- Tony
Are you perhaps over estimating the allure of thinking?
- Todd Hoff
Micro-blogging is good for idealets and infotainment, but it really is turning the web into a mindless medium like TV. Of course, there will always be the equivalent of PBS trying valiantly to raise the bar somewhat. Blogs will always have the possibility of transmitting real knowledge.
- Paul W. Homer
The interesting thing for me is I think we have lost the definition of what a blog is. Everybody jumped up and down about what Steve Rubel did, but really I see his change as a shift of platform. If he posted that same content on wordpress, nobody would have said a word. Just because he did it on posterous and called it a lifestream, people took issue with it. So, what is our definition then?
- Robert
I think Steve still has a weblog, he's just submitting posts to it in a "different" way. Like Dave's link says a weblog is "... a hierarchy of text, images, media objects and data, arranged chronologically, that can be viewed in an HTML browser." Pretty much sums it up, I think. Steve's post is going to generate attention, and debate, but in the end it's a weblog.
- Rob Fahrni
Robert, I know you're asking Dave a question, but I don't think the Posterious way goes against the definition. If I'm not mistaken Radio could post via e-mail, and I know Blogger supports this feature. Maybe I need to dig into Posterious a bit more but isn't that what it does?
- Rob Fahrni
Rob - That is my point. This in my mind is one of the major problems with looking for a "new name" for these social products. We see it as something different because it is called something different. Posterous, from what I can see so far, allows for the writer to interact with their "weblog" in a different way, just as you said...
- Robert
from email
Huh?
- Dave Winer
Dave - I think your "huh?" was towards me... We call Posterous a "life stream", I say it is a blog, that we have given a different name to. That is what I am saying.Rob - I agree with you 100%, and that is my point exactly. I keep reading these post about blogging being dead, or blogging being alive... but those that say they are not "blogging" are still "blogging" Maybe I am not making sense, but I hope I am...
- Robert
from email
Robert - Precisely! I think Posterious is trying to find a why to differentiate their product, so they've coined a new phrase. It's still a weblog, how the data arrives may be different, but it's just a weblog all the same. When I read Steve's story last night, from his new site, I thought I was going to find a link on it to something "new and innovative", then I realized I was AT the actualy site, his "life stream."
- Rob Fahrni
Robert - Right on!
- Rob Fahrni
Blogology is a still too young science, and definitio usually comes when plays are over. What I feel sad for is the lack of opportunity future literature and social behaviour experts will suffer not using post's content ( and graphics ) as sources for studying today's world zeitgeist. Borges prophecy is at work, few understands - too many doesn't even know what they're writing about: a...
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- valerio fiandra
from iPhone
Robert, the photo sharing site you've used recently is structurally a blog too. It differs from normal blog software mainly in that the chronology is by date of occurrence, not date of posting.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
It's funny that this sentence and a few lines from Anthony Trollope's autobiography should have crossed paths in my consciousness on the same day, since it's almost the same idea, thrown back two temporal orders of magnitude. Trollope tells of a correspondent, a vicar, who had enjoyed his clerical novels but was upset by Lady Glencors'a contemplation of adultery in the Pallisers series....
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- Amyloo
This is silly. Blogging isn't defined by the tool, it's defined by who's doing it. Read the piece I pointed to. I don't mean click on the link and hit the Back buttton, click the link and READ.
- Dave Winer
Agreed, Dave. Heck, we blogged back in the day via FTP uploads; that's what moved you towards developing "Edit This Page", in fact (IIRC).
- Ken Kennedy
This subject keeps coming back - blogging will never die.
- Jesse Stay
Before Web 1.0 we listened, conversed, collaborated and then we wrote. Writing was the synthesis of all the thinking that occurred in the first steps. In the new medium, the thinking process is the streams, both personal and community. Blogging is the synthesis of this new kind of community thought process.
- Joolio
Dave - haha! - that is awesome :D
- Susan Beebe
Pity there's no "Really, Really Like" button.
- Chris Baskind
Of course bloggin won't die, but you better have compelling content, because people have little tolerance for long articles.
- Todd Dewell
I think a large percentage of bloggers were really microbloggers, they just didn't have the correct apps to do that. The people that actually have something to say will keep blogging and those that just like to say something small or share something interesting will continue microblogging, or lifestreaming, or whatever variant you want to name it. Blogging is akin to publishing articles...
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- xero
This was known since the times of IRC: you can only have idle chatter or quick focused questions at that speed.
- Michele Costabile
Michele, if that premise is true, then kids only absorb important life-long lessons from their parent(s) when they're sat down for a full length lecture. No? :)
- Micah Wittman
The best food for thought always come in easily digestible chunks, however, sometimes you need to digest some larger/harder stuff to give you the ability to digest that chunk.
- xero
Agreed, well said, Xero.
- Micah Wittman
I thought completing a thought was the beauty of FriendFeed.
- Alan Eggleston
Microblogging is very much a product of the times, very ADD, very video-game-ish; so I agree strongly with the idea of longer.
- Rick Cogley
Just FYI, when I started Scripting News in 1997, it was entirely "microblogging" -- look in the archive. http://www.scripting.com/1997...
- Dave Winer
Dave - I very much appreciate you keeping up this fight. When I heard this past weekend the term "Lifestreaming", and seeing it picking up momentum. No, this has to stop. Twittering is an aside to your thoughts, or a highlight to pull people to your thoughts, if it's you only thoughts, you need put your head below the surface of your lifestream while carrying a big pile of rocks and...
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- Matthew DeVries
LOL, unfortunately, I don't think this problem exists just for blogging :)
- Armando & Cindee Edrosa
from iPhone
This isn't a fight. I love all this stuff. I was just saying what I think.
- Dave Winer
Even calling it a "Lifestream"? That's the creepiest sounding thing in tech, since Steve Balmer was threatening to "Squirt" his music onto my Zune.
- Matthew DeVries
Who really quit blogging? Even the most active lifestream addicts never really quit. For me, the blog is and has always been home. Everything else is somewhat ancillary, even when it's the first place I go. Critical thinking sometimes requires the depth of a written post.
- Ken Camp
Question: Of those of you out there who use posterous, do you use it as a replacement of your blog, a mirror of your blog or something different?
- Curt Mercadante
Ken - Rubel quit blogging.
- Matthew DeVries
One of the things I like about blogging is the ability to not finish a thought, not to try so hard to say all I have to say or say come to any definite conclusion in a single post. The unfinished thought is what encourages conversation. Let someone else add to your thought. Let others challenge your incomplete premise. I don't know everything, why pretend I do? My thoughts are never finished.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Wow, you're right Dave, scripting news was indeed VERY much a microblog. Interesting & thanks for pointing that out!
- Rick Cogley
Just last night, my sister sent out a vague tweet that made no sense to me out of context: http://twitter.com/awarnoc... So I suggested she blog about the topic so that readers like me would understand the context. http://twitter.com/awarnoc... http://zelzega.blogspot.com/2009...
- Peter Warnock
Just because you can finish a thought, doesn't mean people will read it.
- Will Higgins™
Tell me about it. That happened earlier in this very thread. But at least you ca read it yourself.
- Dave Winer
Just as your diary became your journal and then your log, your log has become your stream. The web has become your life..... AND SO IT WAS, that in the year naught-nine, the web-log was renamed to life-stream, dissected, and it's pieces scattered about the hundreds of "cloud" services, from which it could fall as raindrops of thought, pinging here and there in an attempt to spread ideas to where they were needed the most.
- Joel Bennett
No time to read it. Can you give us the gist of it in 140 characters or less? Thanks.
- Diego Barros
Here's a picture, even easier than 140 chars. http://tr.im/qrBb
- Dave Winer
Haha, love it!
- Rick Cogley
Love the idea!
- Sampad Swain
Come on, Dave. Where's your sense of humor?
- Diego Barros
Where's yours?
- Dave Winer
If you were joking, that's cool. I can take it. :) (I was joking, honest)
- Diego Barros
Me too. :-)
- Dave Winer
Blogging is still the platform of choice for sharing a clear/uninterrupted flow of thoughts from a single perspective. Then comments rapidly add value to the original post's material (most of the time). We're witnessing the link power of blogging decline because that functionality (which is monetizable) is moving to social media. We are left with the question, how best should bloggers monetize if they're losing link passing strength? I'm working that issue now by frankensteining several parts together
- Mark Essel
Personalized/Customized ads based on public user status. Semantic tools (via API), memory (local user profile database), and the passing of information to an ad aggregator will help produce custom (dynamic web matched) advertisements. It should serve all parties involved (social media, bloggers/front ends, semantic processing houses, and advertising aggregators).
- Mark Essel
What do you mean, I have always been able to finish a ... ooh a nice shiny object...
- Marcel de Jong
Isn't it ironic that this post contained a clear and concise thesis, in under 140 characters?
- Mike Chelen
Good point Mike...
- Mark Harai
There's NOTHING wrong with brevity. There is a time and a place for discussion and lengthy discourse.
- Will Higgins™
Mike Chelen - "a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning ... the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning." - Nope, not ironic
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew DeVries: that covers definitions 1 and 2, yet the 3rd is an "incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result," where in this case the expected result was to explain how new platforms prevent thoughts from being finished, and the actual result was to the contrary :D
- Mike Chelen
If you say so. I never saw that definition, but I have no reason to doubt you, or motivation to find the source myself, so, I'll allow it.
- Matthew DeVries
aren't we all copying from the same online dictionary? http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction...
- Mike Chelen
No, I rattled mine out of something I memorized years ago.
- Matthew DeVries
wow, you got it perfectly word-for-word, remind me to pick you for my crossword puzzle team :)
- Mike Chelen
every time is see FTW I think "fuck the world" instead of "for the win." I just can't rewire that part of my brain
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Steve Rubel asks: "How many of you have ditched RSS for Twitter - and if so why?" (via http://friendfeed.com/e...)
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Steve is a smart guy but this is a DUMB question. Have you ditched FTP? SMTP? HTTP? HTML? Those questions make no sense -- of course you haven't ditched them. Twitter uses SMTP and HTTP and HTML and guess what it uses RSS too.
- Dave Winer
Dave, you are right. Perhaps the question should have been "have you ditched an RSS reader in favor of a Twitter client?"
- Steve Rubel
Twitter! It's smarter and faster.
- Igor Poltavskiy
yep - rarely look at the RSS reader now, and always clicking on links in Twitter
- Ed Beard
@DaveWiner it is not a dumb question. RSS is not like HTTP or FTP? (and I know who you are ;), they are core communication proctols (built albeit on other lower lever comms) - RSS is another layer above that, is it not? Everyone associates RSS with blogging and blog readers and publishing, so yes I have pretty much dumped RSS for the timebeing.
- Paul Kinlan
I'm actually going the other way - I've stopped following popular bloggers because I would rather folow their blog. Most are just replicating their conversations anyway on twitter.
- David
RSS is newer so it's higher up in the stack. That's a difference, but an unimportant one imho.
- Dave Winer
i ditched twitter for friendfeed - does that count?
- Chris Heath
i see the issue as how you consume rss, for me same as chris just said, mostly through friendfeed - still use greader from time to time though
- mike "glemak" dunn
If I use twitter's rss in my email client, do I have the potential to cross streams? :)
- Sean Powell
Agree with Dave. Twitter bubbles stuff to the top, but I still go through gReader every day. (Well, almost every day.)
- John Federico
this is not a dumb question. i interpreted it as "rss reader" and i raise my hand in the affirmative. there's limited time in a day. i have to use that resource carefully. twitter (and a little facebook) has displaced 90 percent of my Google Reader time. I have all the subscriptions still there, but maybe look at them every 3rd week. Twitter is my newsreader. It's my overall web reader.
- @baratunde
then you answered a different question didn't you
- Dave Winer
Just pipe Twitter in your RSS reader through an RSS feed?!
- Kris
@DaveWiner i suppose if we always want to insist on the most precise possible language, then yes, i answered a different question. it was an imprecise question. it was not a DUMB question. since we're focusing on language
- @baratunde
steve, everyone should ditch techcrunch and switch to twitter. techcx is the corpse not a format that never did anything to hurt anyone. put pennies in tx's eyes and fuhgeddaboutit. btw, pr is dead too. just use twitter.
- Dave Winer
I'm sorry but the 'RSS is Plumbing' argument is only going to retard RSS growth. Yes, it *is* that - but it's much more. You'll get to lay a lot more pipe if you get better at showing how pretty the houses are going to look. So end use is important. All that said, Twitter? God no. And RSS is the fuel *for* the real time web. It's the snow pack on the mountain. If it dwindles, you'll see a drought in the (real-time) river. http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/rss-mar...
- AJ Kohn
hey baratunde lets be imprecise about something you care about dying or being ditched.
- Dave Winer
Since we're all trying to be precise about language here, why are we just using "RSS" to generically refer to both RSS and Atom?
- Ken Sheppardson
ok dave. i do care about the difference between dying and being ditched. you got me!
- @baratunde
and dave, i do see your point. there's a distinction. i was just reacting to the all caps DUMB, but we place different value in it. For me it was a question of end user interface. more "raw" RSS feed readers like GReader vs a friend-mediated twitter reader like tweetdeck or twitter.com. It's something i've thought about and take for granted that lots of twitter feeds are RSS powered. carry on team!
- @baratunde
and please don't search for instances of me judging other questions as dumb. i've done it before and will do it again. I JUDGE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME AND LOVE DOING SO! laterz for real this time
- @baratunde
Look I'm not going to give you an analogy, you have a good imagination. I understand what you're saying, and I object. If you have something to say about RSS readers then say it. But RSS has always been the victim of this kind of crap, coming from people who have very bad intentions. This is no exception. By accepting the premise you're helping undermine something GOOD. Why don't you defend it, instead. What has RSS ever done to you Baratunde?
- Dave Winer
This isn't about people baratunde, it's about keeping open formats open.
- Dave Winer
RSS hasn't done anything to me negatively. As an infrastructure it makes lots of services i love and benefit from possible (my blog, various podcasts, video delivery to boxee, etc). RSS READERS are of lower value to me than info I glean from my twitter friends when it comes to surfacing news-like info that I like. that's the most precise way I can put it right now. That's the question...
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- @baratunde
If we are talking about RSS/Twitter as a source for news, I use prefer RSS/Atom since I get more information out of the box without having to rely on more than one application.
- Horst Gutmann
Dave, I don't subscribe to the notion that RSS is dead. Quite the contrary. However, I have seen lots of people post that they stopped using a Reader because of Twitter/Friendfeed.
- Steve Rubel
@Steve Rubel People have reduced or stopped using RSS readers because there are only so many hours of online time per day. Find that Friendfeed is more interesting than Google Reader at the moment. I'll be back there again soon. Friendfeed and Twitter to some extent are shiny toys for many people.
- David Damore
I ditched RSS for Atom. Does it count?
- Berk D. Demir
without trying to hurt Dave's feelings I'd like to agree with the thrust of @baratunde's perspective. I tend to follow people now more than info streams. I let people filter info for me.
- Christian Crumlish
and I stopped using an RSS reader about four years ago and started again recently (Google Reader) but now most of what I follow there are search queries and things like that (including mentions of my username and topics I'm writing about on, yes, Twitter), whereas in 2002-2005 (-ish) I was mostly following blog feeds in my feedreader.
- Christian Crumlish
and just to make sure I am not offending Dave, put me on record as saying "RSS will never die."
- Christian Crumlish
for many who consume RSS feeds, the technical nature of RSS itself is unimportant. For many the term RSS = traditional RSS reader as they've known and adopted it. This is how the question was meant when asked by Steve I believe. Of course both FF and Twitter use RSS. While FF is an RSS reader in part, it is more complicated than simply an RSS reader I believe. I stopped consuming RSS...
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- Thomas Hawk
I follow a few blogs on Twitter in lieu of subscribing via RSS simply because it's more convenient.
- © b e e n s w a n k
I'm still checking my RSS feed each morning but for business purposes I'm getting more specific, real time data from gist. It's currently in BETA but has been getting better and better each month. Seems like feeds are less and less important as the feeds themselves are pulled in by more collaborative and interactive tools.
- Cody Boardman
I've moved from checking my rss feeds first thing in the morning to being irresistably drawn to friendfeed.
- Michael Metz
It is not a dumb question - he knows that Twitter uses RSS - The question is whether we know or care how Twitter operates and what it uses to get the job done
- Simon Rogers
hey if that was the question why didn't he ask it?
- Dave Winer
While I use FF much more often than I open Google Reader, I cannot expect FF/Twitter to deliver everything that interests me, so RSS to me is the sand in that Stephen Covey jar of pebbles, the mortar between the stones that support my wall of information.
- jcunwired
Ditched? No. But I do find I use Google Reader less than I used to pre-Twitter. I wonder how much of it, though, is just me being the mouse getting his pellet by clicking the button, and Twitter gives a quicker "hit" than GR...
- Scott Paley
I would never ditch rss for Twitter. With my Google Reader I can star items to read later, if I still want to keep them I add a tag to them. And I like that I don't have to click on any links, the whole page turns up in my reader. Not like Twitter where I see a headline and a bit.ly or tiny.url link. I rarely click on links on Twitter.
- Patrik Johansson
Here's where I'd rather use my RSS reader than the twitterstream. Saturday morning, first cup of coffee, half awake, and I'm not ready to jump into the stream. My reader provides a familiar, comfortable context, not unlike the morning newspaper, with a beginning (my top favorite sources) and an end (bottom of the page, sources I only sometimes get to). The twitterstream is too rough for...
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- Michael Metz
Linked Data is Blooming: Why You Should Care - ReadWriteWeb - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
don loeb liked this
nice post on semantic web - linked data & tbl video from ted
- mike "glemak" dunn
from Bookmarklet
don - you wouldn't happen to be working on any of this with "g" would you?
- mike "glemak" dunn
I don't have time to write a blog post about RSS being dead. I'm too busy writing apps that move RSS from here to there in new ways.
Saket Vaidya, Marc Dong, don loeb and 17 other people liked this
That was a pretty silly statement by Steve Gillmor. Maybe RSS readers are dead, but RSS is certainly long-term glue--as you are proving.
- Bill Rice
How else was he going to generate the pageviews?
- coldbrew
so RSS is *un*dead? braiiins. :) I'm sure you've encountered the same thing, but I don't think RSS will ever be consumer tech in it's raw (RSS reader) form. It was destined from the beginning to be plumbing.
- mikepk
I used to describe it as the defacto web data API. Perfect? no, but darn useful.
- mikepk
Mike, it's like HTTP.
- Dave Winer
wow, thats great. Would like to know more about it through one of your blog posts
- Sampad Swain
Yeah, electricity is dead as well -- I don't see anywhere!
- Jorge Escobar
You know since Steve was adopting a musical theme, I went looking, and I haven't found it yet. I think it's on the Love You Live album where Mick Jagger responds to some people carrying on in the audience with a dismissive even derisive "Everything okay in the critics section?" He has a picture of the Beatles, they did some great music, but RSS is more like the Stones, rough and dirty. But it rocks.
- Dave Winer
If RSS is dead I must be in heaven - 722 feeds and rising.
- Michael Turro
I can feel the shift, I also just made mention of RSS feeling different now with TWITTER and other real time aggregators on my account @mattaphillips
- Matthew
Forget Apple, Amazon Should Buy Twitter. Why Not? - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
don loeb liked this
Here's a URL-shortener that's doing what I wanted bit.ly to do. $99 a year for white lable shortening. I'll check it out. http://makeme.awe.sm/
Susan Beebe, Daniel Sims, don loeb and 3 other people liked this
I love this idea!
- Susan Beebe
Do you think there would be interest in a tool that synched Flickr, Twitpic and Posterous, each backing up the other?
Cathryn Hrudicka, don loeb and Victor Panlilio liked this
That would be nice...
- Victor Panlilio
I'd buy that for a dollar.
- Drew Lucas
I don't like to duplicate my content (I only post my photos to flickr), but I could see someone wanting to move all their twitpics to a better site after the fact.
- Daniel Sims
I'd appreciate not having to post my photos in more than one site, and a single photo feed would be great.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
This guy has the best icon I've seen, ever, by far. http://twitter.com/WillAtWork
Joseph Zitt, William Mougayar, don loeb and 7 other people liked this
Whoa!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Ha! I had that on my first blog (down on the bottom right): http://davemadethis.blogspot.com/
- DaveDelaney.ME
That's a very old animated gif Dave... i'm surprised you've never seen it before
- Chris Heath
Watch for animated gifs to start making their way in.
- William Mougayar
Bush Endorsement of McCain - Will Ferrell on SNL - Hulu - http://www.hulu.com/watch...
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Maggie, Daniel J. Pritchett, Mohammad Abdurraafay and 31 other people liked this
So good!
- Paul Buchheit
"I'm outta here in a few months, so screw it!"
- April Buchheit
That's right! When you think of John McCain, think of George W. Bush.
- April Buchheit
hahahahaaa!!
- Susan Beebe
hilarious, i hadn't seen this yet
- shawnsmith
Instant classic. Gods, I miss him on SNL
- Michael W. May
I love this too!!
- Terence
Juxtaposition of Palin and Bush and their similarities was great
- Shakeel Mahate
Ugh, I hate Hulu. Here’s a link for people outside the US: http://www.nbc.com/Saturda...
- Guillermo Esteves
anyone find this on youtube? I can't Hulu as I'm in Europe..
- James Harnedy
"the election between the hot lady and the tiger woods guy"
- Clare Dibble
James, can you view it on the NBC site? http://www.nbc.com/Saturda...
- Maryam
Maryam: very late response (sorry) but nope I can't view it from NBC site either. All blocked for us Europeans :(
- James Harnedy
Someone should make a laptop with a keyboard that captures the kinetic energy of keystrokes and uses that energy to help charge the battery...
Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty, Parth Awasthi, Amir and 45 other people liked this
Brilliant, but I don't think it would work. Not enough juice. My rough back of envelope calculation says you'd need to turn a hand-crank for ~ 5 minutes to get 1 minute of laptop power.
- Stephen Mack
The Hybrid laptop, very cool.
- Bryan R. Adams
The same goes for the wireless keyboard and mouse combinations.
- Paul W. Swansen
look at it like an alternator on a car. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
That would be awesome!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
They could use the technology from F-1, But I see the keys having a stroke like a old typwriter. But for 3 million dollars and cold beer I could make it work ;)
- Moved to Facebook
from fftogo
And how about the acceleration as the laptop is being moved around?
- Todd Hoff
Stephen, I'm typing on my laptop hours upon hours every day. Surely I could get an extra half hour of juice per day from that, don't you think?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
KERS for laptops. ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
I don't think so -- unless you're really pounding the keys. Just regular key presses generate a negligible amount of kinetic energy, I think. I think a day of regular typing would get you only a few seconds.
- Stephen Mack
mouse-clicks too. lots of liking these days - FF, twitter, reader, FB, etc
- vijay
Stephen, you're crushing my dream here! ;-) But in case you're wondering, there are days when I am actually pounding away on the keys.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
just add a usb based foot platform/peddles.. so you can move ya feet and charge it up more. :o) sort of turbo ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Would this give enough energy I wonder? Might just be. In any case, a netbook has much lower power consumption than a regular laptop. Would be great if you could run a netbook on finger power. :)
- Meryn Stol
Sorry to crush your dream! My math may be totally off. And newer laptops that use less power and need less cooling, this could work -- especially if you don't need to power a fan.
- Stephen Mack
some possible yet slightly difficult to implement ideas :- Facepalms, Headdesks, ROFLMAOs, and ROFLs.
- vijay
Rob's idea would work. I really want to set up something like this: http://www.wowinsider.com/tag...
- Stephen Mack
This is interesting. Aren't the Japanese using technology that people walking up the stairs are generating energy for driving the lifts or something along the lines?
- Guru Panguji
kinetic energy IS the way forward.. so much movement everywhere ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
keystrokes are too light, but having flat pendulum to make it swinging while in bag and charging might be more feasible
- A.T.
once I designed a keyboard that was pressure sensetive and the software would have some features like understanding if you are angry and making it capslock :) or just some analog features for computer games. Unfortunately I checked and somebody already got the patent :) (well it was not worthy of geting a patent anyway)
- denizoktar
howabout if it used the swaying movement of your laptop in a bag to charge the battery, similar to how a kinetic watch works?
- clarke thomas
smart idea :)
- Bindu Reddy
http://www.halfbakery.com/idea...: "Each key press recharges the laptop battery a little more. They're small, but they're many, and as chip energy consumption goes down and screens get better, the energy gained from keypresses might eventually exceed (or at least significantly amend) the energy consumed."
- ⓞnor
http://slashdot.org/article...: "Compaq patents a keyboard that captures your kinetic energy. Magnets and coils on each key charge a small battery to augment the big one in your laptop."
- ⓞnor
I really wish friendfeed would add support for Whatpulse. They do have an API, do give stats info in XML format, (although it's not RSS). You would be amazed at how many keys you type, how much you click, and how far you move your mouse every day, or even every hour. My stats: http://whatpulse.org/stats... That's a lot of energy that could be harnessed and put to good use, just going to waste (well, not completely to waste, since I am doing work a lot of the time)
- April Russo (app103)
what about a body suite that saves all our movements and can power things we use the more we move? Shit that would make me workout more lol
- Kyle Weller
I would think that you would stand a better chance using the methane produced by the average human.
- Moved to Facebook
Schmidt says something right on: Try to fill your customers' needs. Think about them. Amen amen.
andy brudtkuhl, Manuel Arroyo, Jérôme Flipo and 3 other people liked this
The thing that I liked about it was that he was talking to newspaper people, who think a lot about themselves, and that's why it isn't working for them. The focus has to be on creating products that people want.
- Dave Winer
I'm still a little sore at POTUS for all the Pac-10 hating.
don loeb liked this
What did he say?
- Bret Taylor
That no California school would make it past the first round, and that most Pac-10 schools are worse than their rankings imply. We'll show him!
- Kevin Fox
Hate to say this but I agree with our DP: Pac-10 = overrated when it comes to basketball. And football. And...you get the point.
- Jeff Eddings
Well, in a couple days we'll know if you're right, or just bitter. :-)
- Brian Johns
I can't be bitter *and* right?
- Kevin Fox
If one of the PAC-10 teams goes past the second round I would expect some combination of "smug" and "exuberant", but I can't see any "bitter". :-)
- Brian Johns
yeah, the sucky part of it is that i think i may agree with POTUS. sigh.
- John Lilly
So far as the Pac-10 goes, POTUS is 1 for 6. We may not be swing states, but we can swing! (err, dunk).
- Kevin Fox
Pepsi Regular versus Pepsi Natural: the new Pepsi Challenge - http://www.keacher.com/?p=567
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Phil G, Michael W. May, Benton and 9 other people liked this
"There I was in Target, picking up some mundane supplies, when a display on an aisle end cap caught my eye: four-bottle packs of Pepsi Natural. Having ventured out from under my rock every once in a while, I was familiar with regular Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, Pepsi Max, and even Crystal Pepsi, but Pepsi Natural was new to my eyes. Curiosity was running through me like so much caffeine. What was this Pepsi Natural? How would it compare to the standard, plebeian product? In one swift move, I snapped up a four-pack, swung around, and snagged a bottle of regular off of the nearby shelf. It was time for a new Pepsi Challenge, Pepsi on Pepsi."
- Cee Bee
from Bookmarklet
The most noticable difference is the exclusion of high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) in favor of sugar alone. Some people have made a ruckus in recent years about the virtues of soft drinks sweetened with sugar instead of HFCS. Most major cola manufacturers made the switch to HFCS in the early 1980s, but some still have small production runs with the old-fashioned sweetener. Supposedly,...
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- Cee Bee
"Will Pepsi Natural find a permanent home in the market? Hard to say. History is littered with failed soft drink sub-brands. The price differential could be an issue, too: when money is tight, who is going to blow the budget by buying “natural” soda? Frankly, I find all soft drinks to be far too sweet, and the fizziness is unappealing. I probably consume no more than a quart of soft...
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- RAPatton
I found it a good read.
- RAPatton
here's an article on kosher for passover coke, which contains natural sugar instead of hfc: http://consumerist.com/5163048...
- Cee Bee
Love kosher coke and some coke bottled in mexico is also made with sugar and not HFCS. Tastes different for sure. *says "sugar...." in Homer Simpson voice*
- JoEllen
is it just me or does that bottle look suspiciously like a missing link between old pepsi bottles and the future ones from back tot he future?
- alphaxion
Announcing the private beta launch of Likaholix - http://blog.likaholix.com/2009...
Susan Beebe, Karthick R, Srikar and 18 other people liked this
Realizing that I can't keep up with two accounts - mine and Likaholix. So am going to prob. shut it down and just use mine.
- Bindu Reddy
I'm sure you've thought of this but what if Likaholix tracked my FriendFeed likes and imported them?
- Benjamin Golub
Yes. we did and next on the list of things to to. Thanks to your wonderful API! We will import both likes and comments very soon...
- Bindu Reddy
Do you have a Likeaholix room? You could pipe your 2nd account in there so you don't have to shut it down completely.
- Amani
@Amani, good idea.... I will do that
- Bindu Reddy
Where is the official Likeaholix room? We have much to discuss, I think.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
OK, I created one - http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Bindu Reddy
Would like to create an iPhone app for this. I think it would be great as it looks like there is an RSS feed already for what all the stuff I like..
- Kiran Mudiam
I'm in .... cool start ... Congrats!
- Charlie Anzman
Is there a bookmarklet in the works?
- Aviv
Aviv bookmarklet is already there... chrome has issues but should work on FireFox and Chrome. Look on the bottom right corner of your mylikes page
- Bindu Reddy
It's not there :) (using FF 3.0.4)
- Aviv
it should be, I just looked :)) Look for the following text - Add likes from your browser by dragging this button to your bookmarks toolbar
- Bindu Reddy
It's really not there. Viewed the source, looked for the text, nothing.
- Aviv
Oh wow. Ok do you mind sending me a screenshot. Send it to feedback@likaholix.com
- Bindu Reddy
Sent :)
- Aviv
Check now it should show up :) there was a bug where it wouldn't show for users with too few likes. Just fixed it.
- Bindu Reddy
Yep, it's on.
- Aviv
Kindle for iPhone. Well played Amazon. - http://venturebeat.com/2009...
Private Sanjeev, Wing Yung, Sanjay Ghemawat and 14 other people liked this
They're not missing a beat...
- Mike Nayyar
YES!! This'll let me read my books when I'm away from my Kindle! SWEET
- Chrimmus Tad
Bah Humbug - not available (yet at any rate) on Canadian store
- David HC Soul
yeah US only for now David (sucks)
- MG Siegler
It's getting easier to turn a netbook into a Macintosh. http://i.gizmodo.com/5156903...
Pete Barry, Bryan Strawser, don loeb and Arnaud Fischer liked this
Between posts like this and the latest email offer from Dell, it's getting to be just about impossible for me to ignore the Mini. I vowed I'd never buy another digitizer-less laptop again, and I really don't think I'm going to be able to keep that vow. If I haven't ordered one before the weekend is done, I'll be might surprised. In fact...I'm just gonna concede defeat. There will be...
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- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
...and today they got me. Another 1-day sale. Are these folks on FF?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Trillions of lenses fired into space by cannon could beat climate change... by forming huge 'sun shade'
| Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...
Mark Trapp, Emma, Carolyn Chan and 5 other people liked this
"Global temperatures could be brought back to pre-industrial levels by blasting trillions of lenses into space, astronomers claim. The team, from the University of Arizona, plans to fire the lenses a million miles above Earth to form a 100,000 square mile 'sun shade' that diverts the sun's rays. The huge Space Sunshield would be 62,000 miles long and have a height roughly equal to Earth's diameter - 8,000 miles. It would protect the Earth from 1.8 per cent of the sun's rays - enough to mitigate the effects of climate change, scientists believe. The ambitious and controversial project, led by astronomer Dr Roger Angel, is expected to take 20 or 30 years."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
I like the huge dome idea from the Simpsons Movie.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
There's one slight kink in the plan. We kinda need the sun. We've already been dimming the sun http://www.pbs.org/wgbh... from high altitude pollution which has delayed global warming but dimming causing problems of its own, for example, droughts.
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Hey, isn't that the cannon Hussein was trying to build? Maybe he was just an eco warrior? :-)
- Todd Hoff
Geoengineering Megaprojects are Bad Planetary Management: http://www.worldchanging.com/archive...
- Jason Wehmhoener
President Obama's First Address to a Joint Session of Congres - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Amira, Dinah, Roylan D Mosley and 4 other people liked this
Jennie is a Commie homo-loving son of a gun.
I'm going to steal this :)
- Roshan Vyas
I think that Sean Penn gave the best surprise of the night - most everyone else's speech were ho hum. Good on him.
- Jennie Lin
Offline Gmail for iPhone and Android using HTML5 local storage - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Yunus Tunak, Andrei M. Marinescu, Adewale Oshineye and 23 other people liked this
This is huge.
- Kevin Fox
from Bookmarklet
Supporting story: http://www.appleinsider.com/article...
- Kevin Fox
I really hope offline Gmail comes to the iPhone soon.
- Kevin Whalen
The offline use is nice, but doesn't the point about the experience being the same seem a little dubious? The HTC Dream and the iPhone run relatively similar versions of WebKit; the problem has always been UA developers not coding to the same specifications.
- Mark Trapp
HTML5 the draft? http://www.w3.org/TR... "HTML 5 is still a draft. The contents of HTML 5, as well as the contents of this document which depend on HTML 5, are still being discussed..."
- Stephen Mack
Mark: I don't understand. Can you elaborate? Is your concern that other mobile HTML5-compliant engines won't render the same as each other?
- Kevin Fox
"The HTML 5 specification will not be considered finished before there are at least two complete implementations of the specification. This is a different approach than previous versions of HTML had. The goal is to ensure that the specification is implementable and usable by designers and developers once it is finished."
- Philipp Lenssen
Kevin, I guess I'm thinking about the discussions from Joel Sposky and others (Joel's piece: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items...) when the IE8 "standards mode" was announced: I'm not convinced all mobile HTML5-compliant engines will interpret what it means to be compliant the same way, and this has been an issue with every version of HTML. I get it if we're limiting the...
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- Mark Trapp
Contradictorily to how things should be, if some dominant apps come out while the spec is still in draft form then engine developers will, for better or worse, try to code to those entrenched apps or at least not break them too hard, especially in the mobile market where the ability to run those apps are features that customers use when making purchasing decisions.
- Kevin Fox
The alternative would be a "Gears" for every platform, right? It makes sense to me they'd rather chase an evolving HTML5.
- Antonio Piccolboni
Exactly. By chasing it, you pin it down. How can you know if a spec draft is complete without building production apps to it? :-)
- Kevin Fox
The great thing about standards is how many there are to choose from.
- Stephen Mack
Does anyone know if a website exists that lists the location of electrical outlets in major airports? I imagine getting blueprints of airports could be difficult due to security fears, but there are so many times I wish I knew what to look for before walking 10 gates.
Bindu Reddy, Benjamin Chodroff, Benjamin Golub and 7 other people liked this
That would make a great iphone app.
- Ginger Makela Riker
Oh man I would LOVE that.
- EricaJoy
Also this would make a great Android app. Android devices know when they're being charged and also have GPS built in. One person with an hour on their hands (hello layover?) could easily map a few gates nearby.
- EricaJoy
I don't think they have outlet locations on blueprints anyway.
- Gabe
Gabe - They would be located on the Electrical Plans
- Maggie
Gabe - someone needs to put the plans on a site or app. I spend hours in the airport every week. If someone made the side or app, I'd personally contribute by mapping the airports I visit.
- Sarah Miller
That site would be awesome. I always carry a very small 3 way splitter in my bag. That gives me, the original outlet owner, and a new friend room to join.
- Benjamin Chodroff
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