Turns out people want to keep up on what I'm doing on Facebook... but I don't want to keep up on what thousands of strangers (lovely ones, I'm sure, but still...) are doing. This is Facebook's way of letting you follow someone without them following you, I guess.
- Don MacAskill
you're right, it's the right way to use personal profiles and fan pages :)
- Notorious
Or you can use friend lists and privacy controls. That's "what I do".
- Jesse Stay
Oh, that's an interesting idea. Does it scale? I mostly don't have time to fiddle with stuff, so wanted things to go into buckets automatically.
- Don MacAskill
Don, to an extent, yes. There are still a few things you can't segregate, but you can customize most things to only show to certain friends or groups of friends. I've found it pretty effective for my uses.
- Jesse Stay
Does that mean you got a little sleep?
- Anne Bouey
Good news? People like Paul don't usually get in the office so early especially after a lack of sleep, on a Monday morning, if there wasn't a great reason.
- Louis Gray
Aww Man, see now I am not going to get any sleep tonight! DAMN YOU PAUL and your teasing little smiley face. OK, must go and get some coffee!
- Travis Koger
O.k., I'll smile too :) (and open my ears and eyes)
- Martha
10 bucks says that they add emoticons soon. :)
- Joe Beda
This emoticon makes a little more sense now...
- Stephen Foskett
Guessing this was about the Facebook announcement?
- Ben Hedrington
Paul, will you respond to this? This is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but distracted by Facebook and with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone. Middle of the road: Facebook forces its ads into the timeline and friendfeed starts acting like Facebook by ignoring its users.
- tollie williams
@tollie, I imagine Paul's ability to respond is now constrained, which is just one of the changes we'll see coming. There's new management in town, folks.
- Ken Kennedy
Congratulations Paul - I am very proud of you... no wonder you couldn't sleep! :) Now we know why! As you know, I am a huge fan of your FriendFeed product. I am very happy for you guys and hope you keep your fabulous culture of innovation going strong. This is really amazing.... nice exit! :)
- Susan Beebe
I have been wishing facebook could get more like Friendfeed :) awesome.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
"After acquiring On2's video compression codecs in a deal valued at approximately $106.5 million in stock, will Google simply turn around and open source them? It certainly looks that way. In both the press release and the blog post announcing the acquisition of On2, Google makes a point of saying that it believes "high-quality video compression technology should be a part of the web platform" - and that On2 is a means of achieving that goal. As is typical of Googlespeak, this tells us close to nothing. But if you also consider the company's so far fruitless efforts to push through a video tag for HTML 5 - the still gestating update to the web's hypertext markup language - the On2 acquisition looks an awful lot like an effort to solve this browser-maker impasse."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Reporters are always asking me if I think that Google is still "good". My answer is always yes, and this is an example of why.
- Paul Buchheit
That was my first thought, too. The HTML5 group has been having conflict over using H.264 (licensing) vs Ogg (no penetration, worrisome quality and CPU usage). This could solve the whole thing.
- Don MacAskill
Awesome! Thanks! I looked for this, but apparently not hard enough. :) Thanks! Don
- Don MacAskill
from email
No worries! Let me know how it goes. I'd love to see how well media enclosures work with Hubbub.
- Brett Slatkin
Cool! That was my first reply-to-friendfeed-using-email comment and worked like a charm. What a great feature. :)
- Don MacAskill
We support AtomMedia on skitch.com atom feeds. seems to work with friend feed too
- Cris Pearson
MediaRSS works just fine in Atom -- see http://friendfeed.com/paul... for example. MediaRSS's name seems to be it's biggest problem. I don't know why AtomMedia exists.
- Paul Buchheit
Haha. Found these great shoes and they're been discontinued. That's like a size 13, way bigger, so this is my way of capturing them to hunt down later (which I was able to do!)
- Don MacAskill
I like that you can scroll over porn videos and they automatically play! hehehehehe. Got that from TechCrunch's MG Siegler artcle just now and that LOIC is twittering about it
- Stephen Pickering
I've run several product reviews searches. It sure is FAST.
- Chris Foley
Kurt: I won't say anything about that, but, yes, it's already a great porn search engine.
- Robert Scoble
Ok Ok Ok, I'm coming. Hold your horses. I know it says ring for assistance but......
- dedlam
Total number of results is - as with all search engines - completely inaccurate and changes when you drill into the results.
- petitesphrases
dedlam: hehehe. I just had to do the multiple "bings" because that's what Twitter and friendfeed look like tonight. http://www.bing.com/ is it!
- Robert Scoble
bing is now live. live is now bing.
- ronald widha
I quite like the look and feel. colorful but not too overbaring
- ronald widha
I agree with Ronald. Looks very nice. I hope this gives Goog some competition. Finally. And a search deal with Yahoo! would only help. Sounds like Carol Bartz is open to that.
- Allen S.
@scobleizer I know what you mean. And Google's WAVEing back
- dedlam
Robert: You need to pace yourself....or you will be all Bing'ed out!
- Clifford Kennedy
I'm enjoying the nice backgrounds of photos from around the world on Bing. OTOH, that history of all my searches showing up on the side reminds me of always having to delete spams from my yahoo account---yuk! Too Much To Handle. I don't like all that clutter at ALL. Will deter me from any use!
- Elizabeth Good
Son of a BING!! BING is causing my firefox to crash when I mouseover a video result!
- Gaurav
Gaurav: Safari crashed on me too a couple of times when doing that.
- Robert Scoble
...fries are done! Oh wait, that's ding.
- Gurpreet
It's nice but I think there is too much hype over a name and a nice design.
- Charles Naut
Most glaring omission for me: No chronological filtering... last 24hrs, week, month year, etc Most times, I don't want to see 2006 in my results!
- Jeff Weber
But It's Not Google! But It's Not Google! But It's Not Google! But It's Not Google!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
"I'm dreaming of my search results, just like the ones that google shows" (sung to the tune of White Christmas by Bing Crosby)
- jcunwired
Heh, whilst I'm by no means a fan of Microsoft, or an apologist for them (such things exist? ;)), it is a pretty good attempt from them. I haven't had a look at the rest of Bing's functionality, though.
- Tyson Key
Anyone willing to do a "Pepsi Test" on Bing, to see how it compares to Google? ;)
- Tyson Key
A big BOO for bing.com redirecting to livesearch on the iPhone. MS is shooting themselves in foot by not making Bing accessible on that platform.
- Andy
I actually like Bing, and I might use it as my default search engine. I should really check *everything* out, though
- TeraDyne Azurepaw
Well, in Sweden we haven't got all the features yet apparently. For an example, video search. So no...I'll stick with Google...Google...Google. Repeat it, you will never switch :p
- Patrik Johansson
Patrik: Its in BETA everywhere except the US. I think its good even using the BETA
- Nicholas James
Patrik, in holland it's very basic as well, I think only the news tab have been implemented here. But from seo point it does suck quite much actually.
- Jaap Willem
****THIS IS ROBERT SCOBLE'S FINEST MOMENT ON FRIENDFEED.****
- teh Dork Knight
robert the big issue is the focus on hypervideo interactivity. they know the living room and all that they are doing with Xbox and windows TV sync tech it's about hypervideo interactivity with product placement tracking. but no one is catching that ...
- davidlee
Bing..... Still has a long way to go for me to use it. Possibilities seem like they may be promising. We will have to see what type of ad campaign they will come out with as i see regular internet users not liking the name when they first here about it.
- Chris Nwakalo
Used Bing alot today...I think its great...my new homepage, why? The search functionality is good enough and the video search is fantastick...plus I really like the competition for Google
- Daniel Kenney
I tried Bing for a bunch of things today - Movies, Hotels, Shopping - i.e. the things that it's supposed to be good for. The movie search was reasonable but for that as well as for every other query, I was more clicks from what I wanted than I was with Google. It's their best search engine yet and surprisingly close, but it's not quite there.
- Robin Barooah
Yep, it looks like Microsoft is really on to something here. I am looking forward to trying Google Wave as well.
- Michael Bazzoni
I just searched "why bing?" on bing. Bing wasn't aware of its presence. Nothing related on the first page. I recommend a better name for this, Bang. Apparently it is welcomed as a porn search engine.
- Cem ARGUN
you can also 'xrank' your searches for data. there's no data at the moment on robert scoble, but here's one on leo laporte: http://www.bing.com/xrank...
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
That second thing. Apparently we're too stupid, according to Twitter, to decide whether we want to see @replies or not. However, many disagree with their assessment of our mental acuity. ;)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
@Louis. Maybe aplusk just became Twitter's common denominator? ;-)
- Andy Bold
I don't even understand there "technical" argument for removing @replies to non-friends from my timeline.. Mentions still show but replies can't? What's to stop power users from coming up with a different reply symbol than @ and just using that?
- Kevin Whalen
is there something you're not telling us Louis? (Are we sure FB fails?) ;-)
- David Bausola
David: Have you been on FB recently? They're practically all dating ads
- Nicholas James
american apparel is definitely a raunchy advertiser.. they also does nude ads. no joke. search and you will find some nsfw sites that run nsfw AA ads.
- Paul Stamatiou
google ads thought for a good month last fall that I had a huge hardon for tactical surveillance gear. Parabolic mics, night vision spotting scopes..... I'm wondering who bought what with my credit card.
- Matthew DeVries
Well, it did become something you shared on..
- Thomas Bøhm
I only ever see a broken image icon in Facebook ads =) Takes up a lot less space that way too.
- LogEx
Nicholas - Aye, I was jesting. I avoid FB like the plague, regardless of having Friends there; there's no depth of experience on the platform - as demonstrated by the display adverts.
- David Bausola
Since you don't think you need one of these, am I to assume you already have one? :)
- Rob La Gesse
Rob, do you think Blue is LG's colour?
- David Bausola
Rob, I don't yet have one. Hmmm... maybe Facebook is on to something.
- Louis Gray
If I own a wall and invite everyone and anyone to come and write graffiti on it, then what have I actually got? Initially I may have an interesting collage that everyone wants to look at, but at the end of the day, when people have moved on back to quality content, in reality I just have a messy wall. Who’d want to advertise next to that? - More at http://blog.famebook.com
- Jan Simmonds
I get all these dating ads and I've specifically selected I'm no on FB for dating, utter useless. Get the targets right it might work but I tend to ignore ads.
- Kol Tregaskes
Nearly every ad I get from Facebook for a local business is in San Francisco. I live in Seattle. I haven't lived in the Bay Area since before I joined Facebook. I've been conducting a little experiment lately, giving a thumbs down to every ad from a business in California, marking them as irrelevant. I have yet to get an ad for a business in Seattle. Their ad system isn't just bad, it's horrendously and completely broken.
- Kevin Pedraja
Kevin - I think (i know) it has to do with WHO places the ads too.
- David Bausola
David: What do you mean? Are local advertisers asking for their ads to be shown to people who live 900 miles away? I don't think I'd want to pay for those clicks if it were me... And how hard is it for Facebook to look at my home address and serve me ads that at least have a slight chance of being relevant. (Sorry, this has been annoying me for a while now... ;))
- Kevin Pedraja
Facebook need to charge a $1 a year the ads are hopeless
- Thomas Power
That's a good point Thomas - 23 million users? It can't be more than 23 million dollars to run that thing
- Matthew DeVries
Looks like she's sitting on the loo...
- Kathy Johnson
I didn't even know there were ads on Facebook. I've only ever used it with Firefox and ABP. Apparently it works pretty well.
- Kenton
Wow, that ad is so bad, I'd think it was a competitor of theirs running it. wtf?
- Don MacAskill
I was hoping you wouldn't reveal the reason for the change. I am a fan of simple, returning back to the basic every now and then as well.
- michael sean wright
Robert I would say that this minimalism is very cool -I try to use minimalistic themes too, but if you could change the font. Times New Roman, I think sucks! I believe that if you could make it to Arial or something it would much more perfect!
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
Scoble, a really simple design is great, just have a tan background, grey helvetica 14pt and be done with it. But what you have now sucks, lol. I recommend you checking out http://readable-app.appspot.com/. You can learn a lot there.
- Kiko Cherman
Was the length of stay per visitor for a given article unchanged when compared against previously published articles of similar length prior to the theme change?
- Kevin Eklund
Robert: I know most "real" bloggers love and use Wordpress, but why not use free blogger.com. Is it really worth all the trouble to have a self-hosted mydomain.com blog any more? I think the reasons people had for self-hosting have changed. How much reviewing wordpress plugins do you do? You can have a decent looking yourblog.blogspot.com in 2 minutes or less and start blogging right away. Blogger gadgets have also come a long way. It shouldn't take weeks to set up a blog.
- Tweet Feeds
Tweet: I never liked Blogger and its approach. I already have a free account. I want to have control of my own server.
- Robert Scoble
There seems to be a consensus that you should change the font... although I'm not sure that was the point! : ) I do think it's interesting to think of how all of the "branding" we do and the advertising we permit on our blogs can interfere with the message(s). It at least really makes you think before you add components in to your design. Unless you're not about content but just pretty looks...
- Julie
I rarely read your blog other than via RSS so mostly it makes no difference what it looks like in the browser.
- Brian Sullivan
Robert: Why do you need to control your own server? What does that get you? You could also have a set of no-stress blogs on blogger and still have your wordpress blog for reviewing plugins and experiments. What do your readers think about it? I am sure most like me read you on here. just a suggestion
- Tweet Feeds
Tweet: it lets me play around and have complete control.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: am curious, what do you mean "never liked Blogger and its approach.." Is there anything we should know about Blogger? The uptime seems fine, The TOS seems fair.
- Tweet Feeds
Robert: hope this doesn't sound repetitive but am really curious what do you mean "play around and have complete control", I previously self-hosted and at the moment I really have no reasons to do that because am mostly using blogs for sharing content. bouncing servers and configuring them doesn't seem to add anything to my current needs. Is there something cool that i am not aware of about self-hosting or Wordpress. I don't even see the value in having my own domain because search engines find me.
- Tweet Feeds
Robert are you going to host on Mosso or with a dedicated Rackspace server?
- Ewan MacLeod
Tweet: I didn't care for my personal user experience on blogger. Not as intuitive as I would like, and I get much more of my own chosen experience from my self hosted site. I would prefer it even more if I had complete control over the actual linux host. (mine is hosted by a friend, who owns the domain name that I want my blog site on)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
You should post adds thu - why pass up a couple of extra bucks!
- Kevin Nordmand
Rob Nelson: Thanks for the answer but I am mostly interested in creating and sharing content. I rarely use the web interface on blogger.com because I use Live Writer, I don't care about the domain, I don't care for custom templates, I don't have any friends that can host me, I have little interest in doing linux administration at this point in my life and will probably never customize...
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- Tweet Feeds
Tweet: you sounds as though you've answered your own question? If you're satisfied with the experience you have, why would you change it? "Don't fix what ain't broke" - I didn't care for blogger, so I tried Wordpress.com - I liked it, but couldn't install my own plugins. I didn't care to setup wordpress on my own server, and so didn't. But when I saw the right domain come up, I jumped on it, and all I have to admin is my WordPress. And now I get the plugins I wanted.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Like Robert, the more I get into the whole notion, the more I would perhaps like complete control over the linux machine. I've found at least one reason I would like that. But as yet it's not compelling enough to a) lose the domain name and b) spend time ad energy maintaining apache and the wordpress system itself.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
A bit to basic/ugly for my liking. Numbers probably didn't change because people come for the content, not the look but why not give them a good user experience at the same time. plus most readers probably use a feed reader.
- CJPhoto
You know I was almost going to tell you to keep that design, or lack thereof, even before you brought up this topic. It has a Craigslisty Authentic feel to it, but I suppose it needs a little design. Maybe a happy medium is best. It's true, all those box ads on Techcrunch and Mashable are destracting, but of course one does have to make money. Hmmmm.
- Stephen Pickering
You know I'd rather see one large, aesthetically pleasing ad than so many flashing boxes. I think this would work with the NYtimes as well. When you click an article they have so many distracting things going on around it, even things that aren't ads. I'd rather have one beautiful ad
- Stephen Pickering
you can't be serious, I didn't bash it because I like the "from scratch" approach but ignoring the design altogether is VERY wrong. Some might read the content via RSS and might be used to raw data, but onsite experience is still a BIG thing
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
It reminds me of a newspaper (which I still like to read) so I find it nostalgic and endearing.
- Christian (Simply X)
There's definitely something to be said for minimalism, but this does give the appearance of a 'lost' theme, due to corruption or whatever, as opposed to one you've selected yourself. On a side note, I've never understood the objections to Times New Roman - I find it to be a perfectly readable font.
- Shéa Bennett
Honestly, when it gets too cluttered, I don't want to come back. It is amazing what whitespace, font choice and size can do. Period. Don't need all the wiz-bang. Fine tuning can make a huge difference. Look at what FriendFeed has done with the beta. Granted it's more function-added. But, now the old look is painful.
- Glen Group
The old FF Realtime is still better when being used as an IRC replacement.
- coldbrew
Sure... talking from a visual perspective. If you did have Scoble 1 and Scoble 2, all things equal except for the look and feel- the look would have a huge impact.
- Glen Group
Also Robert - the blog would be just fine as it is now, if a) not so White...wow..fries my eyes, and narrower. too hard to read with no real paragraphing.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
True, guruvan, the page I am reading this in (beta.friendfeed) is toned down background color. Subtle details, but, preferable on the eye.
- Glen Group
Glen: exactly...it's all it takes. The high-intensity white makes me not want to read Robert's blog. (it didn't make me not read it, but close)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Well said Robert. Content is King. If you have something valuable to say, it does not matter if your WordPress theme is plain or not.
- Tony C
& there i was...clicking refresh in the hope of loading the original scobleizer design (before reading this feed) Hah... :D
- Roshan Ramachandran
If content is King, that makes design, Queen. Doesn't have to be complicated or fancy, just organized.
- Glen Group
Like I said over on your blog post, the best designs *are* simple. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be designed. Take the good feedback and integrate it without making it complex. Harder route - but better.
- Don MacAskill
Honestly, I really like this look -- pages that look "over-designed" tend to distract from quality writing, in my view -- but I'd be in favor of choosing a more readable font. I think black TNR on a white background causes eyestrain. I think the best well-known fonts for onscreen reading, for what it's worth, are Georgia, Cambria, and MS Trebuchet.
- Nathan Rein
Bloat in what sense? Nested atom entries aren't exactly compact. Also, does anyone actually use AtomMedia? I had never heard of it before seeing it in the activitystreams spec.
- Paul Buchheit
It creates bloat in my head to remember that both of those exist.
- Kevin
Reminds me of the so called "open microblogging protocol" in which I don't believe. I appreciate and respect the author's efforts, but I sincerly don't think that we need one.
- directeur
@directeur What problems with the OMB protocol would you like to see fixed?
- Adewale Oshineye
@Paul: no one uses AtomMedia because, for all intents and purposes, it doesn't yet exist. We were developing this format since ATOM doesn't have the semantics to really capture the way that people are publishing media today — and MediaRSS is somewhat long in the tooth, unloved and seems more designed for Big Media purposes, rather than for the web.
- Chris Messina
I'm not a fan of unnecessarily inventing formats or technologies, but it seemed that, with the activity streams work, there was an opportunity to come up with a complementary format that was designed to fit into ATOM. Should publishers adopt this, I think it would benefit FriendFeed, so I'd love your feedback, generally on why AtomMedia, as it's spec'd, sucks, and what you like about MediaRSS (besides adoption)!
- Chris Messina
Before Sunset is #1, and I'd swap Stardust for Princess Bride (I think Yvaine is a better character than Buttercup), drop Serendipity... never saw LA Story or Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Would add Truly, Madly, Deeply. And Cousins even though Ted Danson's only serviceable in the male role, cause Isabella Rossellini was perfect in it. OK, that's 4; I'll throw in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind to round it out.
- Andrew C
No order: Never Been Kissed...oh wait, I don't really watch romantic comedies. This is going to be hard...10 Things I Hate About You. Does Love & Basketball count? Fine, The Princess Bride. Run Fat Boy Run and yes, I chuckled a bit at Hitch.
- Anika
chris: true, but still... jacob: i would have guessed your favorite would have cats in it. or at least be a musical. :p
- Maya Baratz
Maya: So what if I sing showtunes while shopping for flasher jackets, that doesn't mean anything!
- Jacob Mullins
Maya, it is weird that so many men aren't doing it right. Looking at you, Thomas Hawk. ;) Anika, good one on The Wedding Singer. Totally forgot that one. When Harry Met Sally and Love Actually are pretty high up there too.
- Matt Cutts
If Alien is a romantic comedy then so is Fight Club and Danny the Dog.
- Jimminy
I think people are only reading romantic movies. The English Patient was so NOT a comedy. LOL Actually, I can't say that, I turned off the movie 20 min. in, maybe it got funny later.
- Anika
fyi, so hard for me to pick a romantic comedy. they usually consist of at least 20% crap/filler scenes. And there's no 80/20 rule here. Chris W.: Eternal Sunshine is as much a romantic comedy as Valkyrie.
- Maya Baratz
It's obvious that there's some variation here when it comes to sense of humor. Some folks seem to have completely missed the point of some of our suggestions.
- Ken Sheppardson
If Princess Bride is in the list, then clearly we're not just talking about formulaic romcoms to begin with. Princess Bride was no funnier than most of my list...
- Andrew C
50 First Dates and Juno are the only two I actually own that fit into the romcom genre
- Jimminy
Anika: I can see 50 First Dates being a little creepy, especially with 10 Second Tom. A few more favorites are A Knight's Tale and How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days.
- Jimminy
How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days is a big guilty pleasure of mine (well most of these movies are)
- Joe Pierce
not sure on order, but Princess Bride definitely; +1 to Andrew C's addition of Stardust just because Neil Gaiman is freaking amazing; Sliding Doors as the movie you've most likely never heard of that you should watch in the category; Desk Set for a classic; and The American President.
- Chris Abbey
Secretary, Bridget Jones, Chasing Amy, Pride & Prejudice & While You Were Sleeping.
- Alix Whitmire
No particular order, Notting Hill, Love Actually, Best Man, When Harry Met Sally, 40 Year Old Virgin
- Bryan R. Adams
I definitely would have added "You've Got Mail"
- Damond Nollan
I'd say Princess Bride, Harold & Maude, LA Story, Annie Hall, and The American President. Kevin, don't be embarrassed about 10 Things... it's Taming of the Shrew, right?
- Keith Pelczarski
The kids are old enough for full-length Hollywood 3D animated movies just in time for Up! Woo hoo! (We saw Monsters vs Aliens - just so-so movie but the 3D was awesome)
- Don MacAskill
Our Support Heroes are hearing about this *a lot*. :(
- Don MacAskill
This hits me everytime I use certain sites. I was at the SmugMug user group when users complained and Don had to explain that he couldn't fix this issue. You could see the pain in his face cause he doesn't like disappointing his customers. Especially when it's something he can't do anything about.
- Robert Scoble
Most important to us? We have five members of our family. Actually six, since Maryam's mom lives with us. So we need a big car now to take us all around. Also important? Resale value. Gas mileage. Reliability. Ratings on Consumer Reports, etc.
- Robert Scoble
Mt want to look at Toyota Highlander. Believe it gives good gas mileage.
- kamla bhatt
Matthew: does the Forrester seat six?
- Robert Scoble
kamla: Highlander not big enough. My ex had one of those.
- Robert Scoble
Nick: Japanese brands typically have better resale and better reliability.
- Robert Scoble
After our minivan era, we (my wife) got a Pacifica. I like it better than the Pilot/other crossovers. A little more power (mercedes engine) and plenty roomy for us (w/2 children).
- Jim Mitchem
The Pilot. But I'm a Honda fangirl, since my family has had umpteen Hondas/Acuras, and they've all run up to 200k miles and more with no serious issues.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Really? A Minivan? The Mazda CX-7 & CX-9 are supposed to be great cars and can fit up to 7 (on the CX-9). But if you don't need that many people in the car, consider getting a wagon from VW, Audi, or BMW. The 328 Sports wagon gets 27 mpg and is one fun car/wagon to drive. I know... I owned one before I moved to NYC.
- Christopher Gizzi
I just went through this. I wanted a more regular ski car and didn't need to schlep quite so many bodies so we picked up a Nissan xterra. An awd mini van might work better for y'all
- Christian Anderson
Been there recently.. Nissan Murano.. really a great car. [Edit: but it's not that big. Toyota Highlander would probably be better for you]
- Aviv
actually, if you need a car that large the Buick Enclave is HANDS DOWN the nicest new people mover out. and Mr. Scoble... the VW Routan is actually a variation on the best selling minivan ever, the Crysler Town&Country.
- glen green
The Toyota Sienna is the Blue-Ray HD version of a Camry, so one cannot go wrong in getting one. Ours has made clicking kids into their seats much easier on my wife's and my noggin while avoiding the head bumps:)
- Roney Smith
How many cubic feet of people do you have? The Infiniti FX hold 102.5 cubic feet
- Matthew DeVries
The Subaru Forrester is the most popular car among English aristocracy, according to Top Gear (season 3, episode 3). It's doesn't attract attention, can go anywhere, carries a lot, and lasts so long that they pass it on to their children.
- Jayson Elliot
The Forrester Is way too small. It's in the same class as the hylander
- Christian Anderson
Robert, I have as much faith that you'll be able to keep the money rolling in during this economy, but Hyanudai does have that special going where if you lose your job, they'll forgive payments, and if you still don't have a job, they'll let you give the car back.
- Matthew DeVries
Jayson: the Subaru isn't big enough. Thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Matthew: that's pretty cool, but I like Japanese cars. Toyota has treated several branches of our family very well and Alex has a Honda that's great.
- Robert Scoble
You might want to also check out the Mazda 5. My friend Chris just got one and it gets decent gas mileage, is apparently fairly well regarded on CR and is quite a bit cheaper than a Pilot. You might have to get passed the shape though. I think Chris got his with two rear LCD screens for like $23k.
- Alex Scoble
Two relatively new Nissan's in the family. Nothing but RAVES from here ...
- Charlie Anzman
I looked at the 4runner pretty closely when I was looking. It has third row seating that is pretty accessible
- Christian Anderson
We ended up getting a Volvo XC90 (1 kids is 10, one kid is 7 and uses the built in booster seat, and one is 2 and a half and has a Brittax car seat - the absolute BEST car seat I've owned for any of our kids) because it was the ONLY car that could sit all three kids across the middle bench AND have room for 2 more in the third row. HOWEVER, we did extensive research on vans and really the only one that had the right mix of safety, reliability and technology was the Toyota Siena. Buy Toyota.
- Tim
Murano/CX-7/Odyssey are good choices (if you don't mind the ugly snout on the Murano). The Audi wagons are also good though will probably be too small. Toyota Avensis, Tarago are also good, but man are they slow :). Out of the left field suggestion: BMW X5 3.0D...
- Mo Kargas
If the Saturn Vue or (the bigger model - the name escapes me) is still using a Honda engine then you get the good engine without Honda price. I have an 05 Vue that essentially has the same engine as a Pilot. It's been a great car.
- AJ Kohn
When our twins were born, we got a Honda Odyssey because 1) we like Hondas and 2) they have the power sliding doors (actuated from keyfob) on both sides, making it easy to load two babies / small children even though our hands were full. Your young'uns are close enough in age that your situation isn't dissimilar. You should look into a Honda Odyssey or Toyota Sienna.
- Elden Nelson
On a related note, regardless of whatever you have currently, spend the money and buy both kids a Brittax marathon carseat as soon as they are heavier than 10 pounds. It is the best and safest seat on the market and it will be the last seat you buy for both kids until they are into seat only booster seats. Like our Bugaboo stroller, I wish I had bought the Brittax first.
- Tim
My wife and I would echo what Elden just said - our Odyssey has been fantastic.
- Micah Wittman
we love our sienna and it's lasted several years w/o major expense.
- MikeAmundsen
As my wife read these comments, she chimed in that the Chysler Town and Country was also our favorite. It has incredible features (the halo lights are amazing and would be tremendously useful on long trips), and it is a great handling car. Plus you get the added plus of buying American. Just make sure the warranty will still be something you can use if they go out of business...
- Tim
Don't know how you could feel good about buying a chrystler right now.
- Christian Anderson
I currently have a 2006 Toyota Sienna. It has been a great car to this point. Lease is up in a month and leaning towards the Pilot now that the kids can handle the doors on their own. A friend of mine just went from the 2006 to the 2009 Sienna and said the quality had dropped a notch or two. Minivan has better milage and easier access for all. Kind of nice when your hands are full of kids, groceries or camera gear to be able to push a button and open the doors.
- gfurry
Buy a minivan, Robert. Toyota, Honda... One of those. You'll be sorry if you don't.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
We had a Mazda5 in Switzerland and loved it. The US version is a bit more stripped down, but still is fun.
- Morton Swimmer
Mark: we are pretty sure we are going with a minivan.
- Robert Scoble
Are you looking new or used? The Ford Windstar/Freestar has been very good for us. I don't think Ford is selling those new any more though.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: new. Mark: although Leo has us thinking Highlander again.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, then I say go with Toyota. I've had very good experience with Toyota.
- Jesse Stay
Yeah we replaced a 1999 Siena with the Highlander. The Siena has been a great car (it's now the kids' car).
- Leo Laporte
Can't go wrong with the Highlander, for sure. Just remember that when Leo's family was younger, as yours is now, the choice was a minivan.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
That's very true Mark - the Siena was an easier car for young kids. Especially if you get the automatic sliding door. We had it for 10 years.
- Leo Laporte
My mom has a highlander as her primary car. It was great toting around my 90 year old great Aunt. When I visit the West coast in May I'll use it for 2 weeks - I'll tell you how our family of 5 worked in it.
- Tim
try the honda minivan or the Ford Flex. The Flex is assume.
- Comptr
Personally I would go with the Honda Pilot. I've owned nothing by Hondas my entire life, quality has remained consistent from the 90's in my experience. I own a Pilot and (not sure how much this applies to people living in California) but it handles awesome in all weather, especially crazy snow. Tons of room, we have 2 dogs and it holds up to them easily. It rides INCREDIBLY smooth,...
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- Devlin Dunsmore
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My mom has a Pilot that's about 5 years old. It still rides real smooth and we've never had problems with it. I'm very happy with Honda's and how durable they are. Don't know much about the other cars, but I don't think you can go wrong with the Pilot choice.
- Michael
Devlin: Toyota PR just contacted me on Twitter @SonaMoon said hi and offered her help if I needed anything.
- Robert Scoble
I'm renting a Nissan Sentra while my car is being repaired: DON'T GET ONE OF THOSE!! Awful car.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Hmm, interested that Toyota is actively watching Twitter - not suprised by definitely interested. I wonder if other manufacturers are watching this conversation
- Mo Kargas
do you need power or towing? then get SUV. want better MPG, get minivan. Sienna is the best minivan... SUV i would say Yukon XL, you can get a smoking deal on one right now.. and they have gobs of room, AWD for crap weather, and great power.
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
I don't think you can go wrong with a Toyota or Honda. I love my Civic.
- Peter Warnock
My absolute favorite big family car is the Marathon (has a jump seat). But since they don't make 'em anymore, definitely go with the Toyota Siena.
- Marie Carnes
I think you should get a Tahoe since your a fan of that new Eminem track!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Can't help here - my advice is always "buy used" - I am a luddite in cars and only buy them used, and once I know which models can just keep going hassle free for years.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I´m with Nick. Volkswagen are great quality cars (and have the coolest in-dash Siemens manufactured media/HDD/navigation system which also counts in this day and age;)). I upgraded the firmware on the navi this weekend, and also have a CAN-BUS cable for general hacking of the car, the ultimate geek car:) I have the Touran Turbo-diesel which I guess is the Routan overseas in the US. VW FTW!
- Thomas Bøhm
VW Touran != Routan . Routan is a rebadged Chrysler and it is supposed to suck. The Touran is much better, but not sold in the US.
- Morton Swimmer
VW makes great quality cars? When I bought my Jetta in 2001 that was definitely not true. After the fact I read the Consumer Reports guide that showed VW having terrible quality problems, should have read it before buying the car. Have things improved greatly at VW since 2001?
- DGentry
I do like me some Subaru... the Forester is great, as is the Tribeca
- Lou
Our '03 Odyssey is a great vehicle. I don't care for minivans or SUV's, but if I had to choose one or the other (as I did six years ago), I'd go for a minivan: they're more versatile, usually seat more, and get better mileage than a comparable SUV.
- Steve Lowe
POWER SLIDING DOORS! I swallowed my man pride once I had kids for this luxury alone.
- Chris McLean
Chris: funny enough I see the practicality of this. My wife is the one resisting the mini-van thing. I think she's finally coming around, though. :-)
- Robert Scoble
If you don't need the third row seats, really consider the Honda CR-V. Very utilitarian with much better gas mileage. If the third row is a necessity and you really want a people mover, Odyssey is hard to top.
- Mark Philpot
Honda Pilot was redesigned for 09.It get's my vote. I would take the MDX over the pilot though
- Gordon Ebanks
I'm on my third Dodge minivan (drove the first 14 years, second was hit my a truck) They don't get the mpg of the motorized rollerskates, but you can seat 6 comfortably and fold down seats for cargo. Very servicable.
- Robert Hafer
Go with the minivan. She'll never regret the amount of space. It's easier to maneuver to around inside, and we were able to fit a full size couch with the door shut in our minivan. You'd never be able to accomplish that with an SUV like the Pilot.
- Mike Bruder
I'm a little late to the party here but to me there is no question; go with the Sienna. We're on our second and will likely be getting another when our lease expires later this year. It gets better gas mileage than any other mini-van or SUV and has way more room than anything but the giant SUV's. It's comfortable and reliable and if you want you can get it in AWD (with a loss of 1 or 2 mpg).
- Kenton
Another thing to that I like about a minvan is sliding doors. No matter how hard the kids swing them open in a crowded parking lot they can't hit the car next to us. I can't say the same about my other car.
- gfurry
gfurry, very good point. We just recently replaced a two-door car with a 4-door hatch. I've lost track of the number of near misses or thumps into the posts of our carport. All the kids want to do is get out of the car as fast as they can.
- Kenton
Volkswagen has a new diesel engine that not only burns bio-fuel but gets more than 60 mpg. Don't know if they offer it on the van, but the campers are cool.
- Phil Boiarski
Volkswagen and others have lots of great diesel engines. For some reason they only share a couple of them with us in America. Why can't I buy a VW Van with a diesel in the US?
- gfurry
Love my Honda Odyssey. Toyota wanted to nickel & dime me with options (want *two* sliding doors? That'll be $$ please, thanks!) and wouldn't remove the ugly fake wood detail work. No thanks!
- Don MacAskill
Robert - If anything says you belong in a Routan, turn on your TV (or watch you Tivo'd ep of How I Met Your Mother from tonight) and watch the new Routan commercial. The little kid in the car seat looks like Milan. It's meant to be.
- Matthew DeVries
Toyota Sienna is a fantastic vehicle. We've had two in a row, with the last one being acquired last year. We bought it because we wanted AWD, but you'd do well with either this or the Honda minivan. Incidentally, with two infants - having auto opening and sliding doors is a big advantage to getting a minivan.
- David Geller
We have had two Toyota Siennas ... great vehicles and good seating options, auto doors, and easy to break down the seats for hauling big stuff around as a mini-moving van
- Steve Holden
Guillotine is a card game but is quick to pick up, quick to play, and very fun. Some of the german-style board games just take too long sometimes (an hour or more, not including setting up all the hundreds of pieces and explaining the hundreds of rules...)
- Shirley Wu
RISK, I agree. Not the rubbish modern version, though. Settlers is good too but disappointingly non-violent... ;)
- Euan
Puerto Rico is my current favorite. Settlers of Catan (w/Seafarers and Cities & Knights) also rocks.
- Don MacAskill
Settlers of Catan! I was "forced" by a friend to learn it on an original German version. I was so lost at first. Then hooked and avid. Then burnt out. Now it's fun again and a classic that my kids always want to play too.
- Micah Wittman
Everyone worked every other day, played every other day. It was awesome. :)
- Don MacAskill
Don, that sounds like an awesome work/play schedule even at this current economic situation. :)
- imabonehead
I am one of the people that got to go. Thank you Don and thanks so much for a great place to work. Oh, and I am soooo tired now. I need a week off to recuperate. :-)
- Chris Walker
"everyone" except a few of us that worked pretty much every day :(
- Chris Abbey
twitter is incapable of driving traffic the way FF can. the FOAF feature alone knocks it out of the park. which is how i was driven to your video and ultimately subscribing to you here.
- Carlos Ayala
This is as indicative of your activity on FriendFeed vs. your activity on Twitter as it is of the two services. Somebody like Kevin Rose or Gabe Rivera would no doubt see the reverse.
- Louis Gray
I didn't realize you could post 1080p video to SmugMug. I've got a 5D MkII as well and I am having plenty of fun with it.
- Tommy Williams
On my Nokia post Twitter is pushing 4x more traffic than FriendFeed is.
- Robert Scoble
indicative of activity? or of followers? its is obvious that the more followers you have the more traffic you can bait. i am incapable of doing the math but i am pretty sure that if robert had the same amount of followers here on FF that he does on twitter...he'd experience an exponential rise in traffic that would shadow anything happening on twitter. once again, twitter is not capable of doing the reverse.
- Carlos Ayala
Wow! That's an amazing video. I watched the the Full HD version and couldn't believe how good it looked!
- Michael Zitek
Carlos -- Scoble has 40000 twitter followers and 20,000 ff followers. I am not sure your logic holds. In fact if has 4x traffic is accurate it would seem to be reversed.
- Brian Sullivan
I believe I have a lot more Twitter followers than FF, though I don't really know since I don't really care. But if so, seems strange that FF would drive more traffic...
- Don MacAskill
I suspect followers are less likely to miss posts at FF than at Twitter. It might also reflect a stronger interest and/or different following here than over there.
- Internet Strategist
Brian - it seems to me that there are more avenues for exposure on FF than on twitter. on twitter i need to follow him to know whats going on with him, thats not the case on FF.
- Carlos Ayala
I will extend my point to include specifically what happened here. I dont know Mr MacAskiill, i didnt follow him here and i dont follow him on twitter. Though familiar with SmugMug, I never heard of him. If it were not for his post on FF, chances are that I would not have seen this video until days later...and not directly from him, but from someone else like a Thomas or a Justin or a Scoble, for example. I know that i would have never seen it on twitter. See my point now?
- Carlos Ayala
Surely FF / Twitter can rally to save this thing? I don't even know what's involved, but I'm very interested in seeing SmugMug can do it or help or whatever. The photography is soooooo good...
- Don MacAskill
I was bummed out by that as well when I got the notification this morning. I just joined the site a month ago but was really impressed by the membership.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I would think they'll be selling off the assets. Would be great see this publication continue in some form.
- Mike Doeff
I think it would be neat if Smugmug bought it, and I could tie my JPG submissions to my Smugmug account. I have no idea if it would be financially viable but as a customer of both I'd be quite happy to see that happen :)
- Eric P
Heh. Eric, I've been wanting to do something similar with 52clix.com for a while. That is, tie an existing photo sharing/printing service with my community product. Photographers could then have an easy way to sell prints/books/etc. seamlessly through the site. It's odd to me that entrenched community and print sales haven't bumped into one another yet, as it seems like such an obvious play in the photo space. Every site out there seems to focus on either or.
- Ryan Gillespie
JPG Magazine free for SmugMug members--genius. buy it out of bankruptcy print it at breakeven
- Jason Calacanis
As a Smugmugger I'd love to chip in and help you guys save JPGmag
- Roberto Bonini
don-put markham in touch w/ exec team. let me know how else i can help. -sigmund@jpg
- sig naah
I must say I hadn't really known about it, as I am normally over at dgrin.com, and don't do many tree magazines. I just signed up on the JPG website, which looks great, and if the SmugPeople get behind it, I'll chip in however I can, FWIW. Looks like it'd be a shame to lose such a great resource.
- James Schipper