Adblock Plus, DownThemAll, Firebug, Fission (status bar and loading indicator in location bar), Stop-or-Reload Button, Tamper Data, Xmarks... (and OS X only 1Password's add-on)
- Berk D. Demir
adblock, Tab Mix Plus (for the extra options), Fission (cool Safari/Mac stuff), All-in-One Gestures, SearchWP, Custom Download Manager (downloads are not supposed to open another window!), Jetpack (for the potential and the ad-blocking options), Hide Menubar (for the extra screen space).
- George Moga
Scott: Of course not, but it is the most popular, and .debs moreso.
- Tanath
Ahsan: You don't need to download everything. You simply add the repository to /etc/sources.list (which can be done via Software Sources from the Admin menu in Gnome, or in Synaptic) and then you can install whatever you like from that repo - in this case, chromium.
- Tanath
If you're not familiar with managing your repositories, you may want to look up a guide. You might also like Ubuntu Tweak, which has a sources.list editor, and can manage adding the Chromium repository for you (among others). You can find it here: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/downloa... (Still assuming you're running Ubuntu Linux).
- Tanath
Thanks, I'm comfortable with the command line. Perhaps I misunderstood the message on the repository page which said I had to download xx GB of packages.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
from IM
Adblock is a must, i can handle without the rest...
- Dudu Bekel
Oh, LOL. That's how much space the repo is taking on the server. That was the actual repo URL. The actual line you should add would be: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromiu... jaunty main # Google Chromium
- Tanath
Or from a browser's interface. Google is "good enough" and it'll take more than "10% better" (which Bing is in places) to rewire my brain from Google to Bing.
- Robert Scoble
There are some exceptions, though. Verticals. I could see using the video search. Or the travel features. They both are very nice.
- Robert Scoble
And I will consider the "cash back" for shopping. But it's going to be tough to get me off of Google, how about you?
- Robert Scoble
Agreed. Does not feel different enough. Google is safe for a few more years.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin: yeah, and I don't like the "look" of it. I think that's because Google is burned into my brain. It's going to be difficult to get that unburned. On the other hand, I can see the hundreds of millions of people on Hotmail trying it, if it's integrated well.
- Robert Scoble
How much will the 'well, it's the search engine that came on my computer' play into it. My sister still uses MSN search
- Johnny Worthington
Robert Scoble saying I love Bing is a good start compared to their previous attempts. So far I have had positive results. Will I change my habit of typing google without even knowing it? not sure.
- Vaibhav
And it is definitely a credible effort on all the searches I've tried so far. That's a HUGE difference from older search technologies Microsoft put together.
- Robert Scoble
Vaibhav: I know that having a credible competitor will keep Google innovative for a lot longer than if there were never any competition from anyone else. Now Google has some fire underneath them. No longer can Google's executives ignore the main search experience, which hasn't seen much innovation for a while.
- Robert Scoble
Bing has done a great job in its UI as well as for some other features (excerpt on results, image, map, videos, etc.). I'm still waiting for comments on how good their indexing/ranking is. I hope it'll be better than before.
- Dave Fuentes
I'm just impressed the results are not the subpar crap from before. It's as good as Google down to even the minor computational stuff I've thrown at it.
- Adi
I have the same feeling as for the Google and competition. There is no silver bullet, and there shouldn't be one BIG and SMART and whatever else company. Wish there would be email solution better than Google Apps. Wanted to pay for Apple's MobileMe but I think almost nobody is using their Web mail. And they still do not do custom email domains. So, Google is a winner for now... though, I beg for competitors :-)
- Olexiy Prokhorenko
You can't use things like "comfort" and "what you're used to" as reasons, kids that aren't used to anything, and are better at picking up new things will see Bing for what it really is. Now what that is, I still have no idea, we'll see how it performs the next time I need to find something I guess.
- Colin
I think Bing's novelty as a fresh face will wear off soon, and there's really nothing earth shattering about it as a search engine. I definitely think competition with Google is a great thing, because it's competition between two entities like Microsoft and Google that could really drive innovation (hopefully in OS building someday?). But I guess framing "Bing" as a competitor is a...
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- Victor Barrera
From the little that I've tried it out, it seems to be work fine; not better than Google, but mostly on par. But, like you said, after years of using Google exclusively, I won't be switching search engines unless something that is clearly better comes out.
- 321
The Snow Leopard on the front page is amusing.
- Diego Barros
There was a time when AltaVista was the king and I couldn't have imagined to use something else... I don't see why I couldn't make a switch again.
- Jemm
Found the T&C document for the cash-back: "You can participate in the Live Search cashback service if you are 18 years or older, reside in the United States..." and there I stopped reading.
- Edward Coffey
Love the "I think that's because Google is burned into my brain" quote. This is [scary] true
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Cashback service? What was that Edward? They payed people to use Live Search?
- Colin
What has changed at Microsoft? Bing, Windows 7, Zune HD all seem to be getting positive reviews.
- Vaibhav
So far, for me, I am finding that it does vanity searches better. Kevin Fox mentioned somewhere else on FF that it messes with page titles - that piece I an not so hot on.
- Andy Bold
Also, the pr0n biz might feel the heat from the video search it's got. Just sayin'. ;)
- Adi
Google is more famous, and more common, so for now I will stick with google. Bing does have some interesting features though. They are worthy enough to look into, but google is still the one. At least for me it is. Bing will eventually evolve, and who knows, it could become the next big thing.
- TheHenry
I think it is going to be baby steps. If MS get 2 to 3 % increase in market share that will be good enough for now. They have to keep improving though and yes Google needs competition.
- Rohit Harshvardhan
Simple vanity-searches on Bing for some of my friends and family who aren't famous but have active online presences actually put links to those presences in the first few results. Google prefers genealogy data of long-dead relatives, or the inactive, boiler-plate staff profile pages of university professors.
- Edward Coffey
Edward, I've noticed the same. That's quite nice of Bing..
- Christopher A Carr
Its frustrating that because I'm in the UK, I can't test the service. Would like to put it through its paces.
- Jim Connolly
TechNewsBlog: Why? Not out there yet? I can use it here in Australia.
- Diego Barros
That is pretty weak Tech News Blog, the whole point of the internet is that it doesn't have those boundaries.
- Colin
Christopher and Edward: both search engines put my old blog up top. Really pisses me off, I wish they'd move it down. Google puts friendfeed up where it belongs, though, while Bing has my wife's friendfeed above mine. That's VERY weird.
- Robert Scoble
Tech News, I'm also UK and it's working for me. What do you see?
- Andy Bold
Nice change of direction, i have tried it and the results have been good
- Deepa
Andy: I can see it now - Thanks! On Friday, I just got a redirect page.
- Jim Connolly
Over here, the bing.com domain is active, snow leopard and all, but the search results are just identical to Live Search (see query "hotel brussels" - http://www.scrnshots.com/users... ). None of the fancy stuff from the announcement video's is there.
- Dirk Houbrechts
For me, the biggest issue is that '10% better' learning curve. Until a search engine is SIGNIFICANTLY better/different than Google, it's going to be hard to convince me to chance.
- Cory OBrien
@stuart: I think it changes everyday. Soon snow leopard will be the thing of past (in more than one sense) ;)
- Jemm
I see the same results that Live search gave( when I tried a week back) . I don't find the site "snippet" to be useful as well.
- Krishnamoorthy
@Robert - what do you like bing to do that would make you swtich to it ? I understand core relevance improvements. but what else ? are there any potential directions that you think would make the user do a swtich...
- Krishna Gade
@jemm It might be geographical as well. I don't see the Leopard, I was getting a Nebula and now a bunch of hot air baloons over Turkey. I'm located in The Bahamas.
- Adi
Krishna: real time search that's better than friendfeed would get me interested very quickly. Integrating real time feedback underneath business listings would be even better. Do those two and then you change the game.
- Robert Scoble
The snow leopard has not gone from the front page for me.
- Diego Barros
Why would you need to rewire your brain? If I like a particular search engine's results, I'll just set my browser to use it as a default search. Do you actually go to the search engine's website and type your query into their search box? Gah.
- Stuart Schram
Robert: Real time search for any search engine is at best difficult. Google as an example has server farms located all over the planet and the databases are not all updated simultaneously. Not all that long ago Google only updated once a month and it took a week. They do it a lot quicker and more frequently now but you can see the implications there for real time search. Plus the...
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- Gilbert Harding
Oh, and FWIW, if I have to choose between the two, I'd much rather a mapping website simply fail to work than get effed-up results from Google Maps that send us more than 3 miles deep into Deliverance country so that I get griefed for the next 15 minutes while everybody in the car wonders if we're going to be made to squeal like piggies.
- Stuart Schram
I liked quite a few features, but it just didn't feel quite as clean as Google, and it didn't produce results quite as good (for my handful of sample searches). The best thing to come out of this will probably that Google learns a few new tricks from Bing & does them better.
- Gurpreet
It looks fugly, and a few quick test searches gave really horrid results.
- Anders Husa
Here's a question Robert, what makes this better than Yahoo search?
- Bwana ☠
Completely agree. I see no reason to switch from Google but it's nice for Google to have someone to compete with.
- John Munro
The only place I would be likely to use Bing is on my iPhone. But guess what? They don't have a mobile Bing site. It redirects to the sorry old Live Search mobile site. Yuck. Microsoft should have had a free App Store app for Bing ready to roll today for the launch if they weren't going to support a mobile version. No matter how much they want to, it makes little sense for Microsoft to ignore the iPhone's popularity.
- Andy
An incremental evolution of search isn't going to unseat Google. Google is more than "good enough", and even if Bing does turn out to be marginally better that's not enough to get a lot of switchers (and Google can easily clone Bing's features). MS needs a game changer and Bing doesn't seem to be it. And while I don't agree with Robert's enthusiasm for "real time" search, I do feel that...
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- Eric P
I like Bing pretty much but hey lets be honest its still half baked as with so many other MS products (unlike Windows Seven)
- Abhishek
It's not a competitor for real if people don't use it, Robert... Be part of the solution, not part of the problem! =)
- Andrew C
Scoble: I am really loving Bing as well. It with this Greasemonkey script (http://blog.mikedavidsmith.com/...) that allows you to add Twitter to the side panel (I really hated Twitter at the very top of the search) is very usable. The problem is that I go to Google for Gmail, Reader, and Calendar among other things. But I might try changing the base search engine of my Firefox awesome bar to Bing and see how it works (http://www.howinthetech.com/changin...).
- Sweyn Venderbush
I don't think I'll be using 'Bing' as a verb any time soon. Google IS search.
- Vince DeGeorge
I'm am finding it works as well as Google as a default provider in Chrome but I agree it will have to be a lot better than Google or have some unique extremely useful features before it will make any serious inroads. But it could creep up on Google search if Microsoft continues to press on all fronts (features, marketing, real time/speed of indexing) and if Google strays doing other stuff like Wave and neglects new search functionality.
- Brian Sullivan
I switched to Bing about a week after it came out; I wanted to take it for a trial run to see if I could leave Google and Yahoo (I was using both of them.) Needless to say, I've stuck with Bing. I really like the picture homepage; I look forward to learning something new every day about some unique place or thing in the world. I also find its interface less straining on my eyes: it's a...
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- Wonkette
Robert -- while not a one place checklist, visit http://forums.digitalpoint.com/. I've implemented some of their recommendations thus far and I feel like it's already making a difference.
- Aanarav Sareen
I've recently heard Google changed their algorithm, plus with aggregating sites indexing for us (FriendFeed, Facebook, Twitter), there are many outlets and methods of people reaching our media -- that is, if we remember to segregate to keep various audiences interested. ie: staying away from ping.fm like services.
- Mona Nomura
I'll let other folks suggest additional outside info. There's everything from Eric Goldman who talks about legal aspects of search http://blog.ericgoldman.org/ to SEO by the Sea http://www.seobythesea.com/ which talks about patents related to SEO/SEM/search. It's a really broad field. It's almost like asking "What are some good sources for information about blogging?" :)
- Matt Cutts
What a timely question Robert :) I'm just studying up on this whole subject for my own site, and didn't really know where to start. Nice
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
"Does anyone have a good checklist?" We wrote an SEO beginner's guide at http://googlewebmastercentral.... that I proofread before it went live. You can also do searches like [wordpress seo guide] and there are several good resources in the search results.
- Matt Cutts
Mona, Yes. something like 90% of all traffic starts with a search engine, so unless you are a destination site ,you rely on search to send your traffice. There are times when RSS Subs can be more valuable, like when you are doing loyalty building, but generally NEW users are finding you through a social media or through search. More people are in search than social media..Ergo its still relevant
- Brandon Wirtz
Aanarav, I would recommend some caution regarding Digital Point. Some of the more aggressive stuff that gets pitched in corners of DP can get you in trouble.
- Matt Cutts
Matt: this went to Twitter too. I have good PR's on both friendfeed and Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
What about excellent content? Is that still important? I mean, useful material for human beings? Shouldn't that be well ranked by search engines? And of course, a usable and web standards compliant site.
- Alexis Bellido
Thanks for this list. It finally showed me that value of FriendFeed over Twitter and Facebook. Good answers. Rock on. :-)
- Martin Seibert
I just want to mark this for building43 which I just did with this comment. Oh, I wish I had invisible comments to add metadata/metatags to items like this.
- Robert Scoble
Leather: I never liked delicious. It isn't setup to have a conversation like what happened here.
- Robert Scoble
www.SEOmoz.org, www.SEObook.com , www.SEOquake.com and also www.webpagefx.com is quite useful.
- Hayk H.
As Alexis Bellido says, "a usable and web standards compliant site." I recommend http://www.w3.org for brushing up on the compliance side of things (even if it gets a bit technical). It's the standards by which the web runs, from the horses mouth, so to speak.
- David August
You may want to try #Neil_Patel & his #Quick_Sprout outfit http://www.quicksprout.com/about... See his post: "How to Optimize Your Blog for Search Engines" http://bit.ly/JeXq1 - informative & good free advice. I've been digging into this subject myself for the benefit of a product one of my companies is incubating and this chap and his firm keeps rising to the top of my list. I am also fairly certain that he will advise you for free in return for a good word to your "subjects" ;) @AAinslie
- Alexander Ainslie
This post and more importanly the timeline of the replies are in and of themselves useful as a measure of which SEO/SEOm firms are paying attention online. Not that this is an automatic measure of capability or quality, but you gotta question how good any site is that doesn't link drop on this particular post, be it a self drop or otherwise, given who the author was/is. I*'m, amazed there haven't been more. This might be tell us a thing or two about FF and the SEO community.
- Eric Ward
Just a comment regarding Digital Point, they commonly recommend greyhat/blackhat techniques, and offer lots of stupid stuff for a price. The same advice can be had for free on BlackHatWorld.com. Information wants to be free. ;)
- Lee Ingram
http://www.seobook.com with Aaron I rate highly, digital-point is probably a good place for short term success on splogs but nothing sustainable long term for a proper business.
- Mark Edmondson
Eric, thanks for your offerings. I think that maybe the lack of SEO people here may be down to the fact that we are all working hard implementing all these techniques for our clients. There are plenty of SEO companies who merely do the work, rather than write down what they are doing and share with the rest. http://dragonsearchmarketing.com/blog... , the shop I work at part time is running really hard right now, with 3 new hires in the last 2 months.
- Mark Zip
As to the reflection on the Ff community, perhaps that is because FF is bleeding edge and most work in the trenches of SEO is being done short of the bleeding edge, where there are more "regular" folks.
- Mark Zip
Just joined StomperNet . Not a plug as I am still new with them (1 Week) http://stomping2.com/ and would like to know how others view them. They provide very detailed info through video. Seem to have an impressive staff on board. They are a paid subscription but think it is worth it so far. Would especially like to hear what Matt Cutts has to say about them. Should I cancel my subsription or not?
- Jonathan
Jonathan: I know some of the StomperNet folks, they are very smart.
- Robert Scoble
It does feel special to be using this service and be so connected in such a varitey of topics. Just tried the similar search (after reading comments on Matt Cutts ff) and did my usual search to see how a system works. http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/images... Need to get more non naked pics going :)
- Jonathan
Jonathan, that would be a longer conversation than the FF textbox has room for.
- Matt Cutts
SEOMoz is good, Seobook is good, I would also recommend WebmasterWorld as well. Supporters area on WebmasterWorld has some of the best minds hanging out there...
- Bill Hartzer