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Social Media Cash Grab - http://www.huomah.com/Persona...
A New Facebook Clone in China, but not a Walled Garden! http://www.5gsns.com/
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sk0207, Oliver Ding, Maki and 4 other people liked this
So...you can import/export data around?
- Hao Chen
ZoomBan http://zoomban.vn - Vietnamese Facebook clone
- Ninh Nguyen
It's not Facebook Clone, it just seems like Facebook. I don't believe UC Home guys know what social design is.
- Oliver Ding
The Definition of Social Media Marketing: How to Find the Best Social Media Consultant » techipedia | tamar weinberg - http://www.techipedia.com/2008...
polymath22, Faizar, Louis P. and 4 other people liked this
Tamar, wonderful how you posed question to a *wide variety* of voices in the social media sphere. Thank you!
- Barbara K. Baker
from Bookmarklet
Thank YOU :)
- Tamar Weinberg
Better FriendFeed "recommended" – Userscripts.org - http://userscripts.org/scripts...
Ryne Nelson, Shey, Jamaican of FF, Caleb Elston and 17 other people liked this
Find interesting people. Can you guys please test and LMK if it works and if you like it? Thanks.
- Hao Chen
from Bookmarklet
Nice, works really well
- Glenn Slaven
Great, thanks!
- Hao Chen
This is awesome, thank you!! =)
- Susan Beebe
@susan you're welcome :)
- Hao Chen
Cool
- Minh Bui
If it runs slow, please edit the script and set the variable MAX_SUBSCRIPTIONS_PER_USER to a lower number and LMK what number works well for you.
- Hao Chen
Just posted a fix for performance issues.
- Hao Chen
Installed but it keeps asking for my user/pass for FF, which I give, but it won't authenticate.
- Steve Isaacs
@steve Do these links work for you? http://friendfeed.com/api... and http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Hao Chen
I'm becoming a big fan of bad ESL phrases... seriously, I like them! :-) Very cool script, thanks!
- Brian Carter
@Hao yes, they work.
- Steve Isaacs
Updated today. It's MUCH BETTER. Optimized speed + added settings to find more people. Re-install now!
- Hao Chen
Using FriendFeed is like drinking beer - http://harry.hchen1.com/2008...
Hao Chen, Sarah Perez, mark and 5 other people liked this
Nice analogy. "...moderate use can enhance our life, but over consumption can cause serious damages..." I'll add that just like beer, some people have a higher tolerance than others.
- Brian Sloane
Yup, pretty good analogy. For some though, getting plastered is part of the fun.
- phil baumann
@bsloane: i like that.
- Harry Chen
like twittering, digging, redditing and stumbling!
- Alex Barredo
We can probably make the same analogy to Sex! All good things in Life become addictive! LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
The Leechblock firefox extension can really help with learning moderation. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US...
- Jason Wehmhoener
I like friendfeed so which beer do you recommend? Perhaps some drunk time in front of the computer will earn me a few follower... (or turn me into a troll) rofl
- Czar
lmao
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
From the Front Lines - Breaking the Record for largest care package ever sent to the troops through the use of Social Media - http://embeds.tv/frontline/
Maki liked this
Note: This is the type of thing that I hope social media does more of in the next few years. Using live streaming services like uStream.tv to replace our use of TV, using places like Digg or StumbleUpon to spread the word, etc. So you know, it's an 8 hour stream-a-thon for the troops.
- Ben Parr
Obama's Secret Digital Weapon - http://www.businessweek.com/magazin...
Steaprok, Jason Peck, Maki and Mike Reynolds liked this
Obama & Blue State gaming social media?
- Ryan Underdown
from Bookmarklet
I agree! Obama is brainwashing the youth,
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
What is more important: 1 million Impressions or 5 relationships? | SOCIAL IMPRESSIONS - http://www.reemabeidoh.com/social-...
Steaprok, Roney Smith, Sarah Perez and 6 other people liked this
"1 Million impressions"...no I'll take the 5 relationships that will help me grow 1 million subscribers...
- Anthony Farrior
The thing is, they both go hand in hand. You aren't getting those impressions without relationships, and you aren't getting those relationships without impressions. Usually. What I'm saying is that neither is mutually exclusive.
- Ben Parr
Five relationships... although your lead measures are important. The big question - does your 1m impressions lead to relationships and if so, how many? Mileage will vary.
- David Sim
The timing & metrics are very important in here. How long does it takes to lead the 5 relationships to 1M impressions & what the current situation is & such questions.
- Nikpay
SNSing = five relationships. Real life is a whole different story.
- Mona Nomura
I'll take the impressions. Unless Keira Knightley is one 5 relationships?? And I need the adsense for drink and cigarettes.
- john conroy
FriendFeed Dark Theme - http://geekcondition.com/2008...
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I love FriendFeed and I’ve been spending a lot more time on it recently so I’ve decided to create a Dark Theme for it. Have fun ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
- Brandon
from Bookmarklet
Is Social Media The Ultimate Buzz Kill? - http://jonathanfields.com/blog...
Steaprok, Maki, Mikael Pittam and 4 other people liked this
"As long as people were focused on documenting the experience, they couldn’t be fully in the experience."
- ※Fu※
Sometimes it can enhance the experience - so it becomes shared with a community. The problem is perhaps more when people document their personal events and interactions. I found this when video recording - you weren't part of the party, just an observer.
- David Sim
I'm distracted by cell cameras at shows. It's visually distracting, but also takes away from the shared musical experience by constantly reminding me of the degree to which people's desire for social capital motivates them to go to concerts. It's human nature, and there's certainly nothing wrong with it, but it's not something I want to think about when I'm trying to enjoy the music and truly enjoy something for the sake of how it sounds and makes me feel.
- grag
Mixx Gets Serious About Community Building - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
Steaprok, Rob Diana, Maki and 3 other people liked this
Finaly...
- Marcos Marado
It would be nice if they allowed for deeper integration w/ the ability to register users through an API. Developers would be much more likely to integrate something like this into their website if they could just hook up their existing user base to it without needing them to register at Mixx.com. Although this would allow devs to create thousands of Mixx accounts on the fly (with a script) it wouldn't create a spam issue if users were required to validate their email before posting at Mixx.com.
- grag
You can't use Qik in the Oval Office but you can Twitter. How do I know that? Because today Congressman John Culberson met with the President and he said the Secret Service wouldn't let him do live video but he did Twitter from there.
David Almacy, Chris Garrett, Jay and 92 other people liked this
What's Congressman Culberson's Twitter name?
- Chris Rodgers
Oddly enough, xSk8rB0i899x
- Mark Trapp
thats a security breach - but trust me the NSA is tracking that twit !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
Now if they'll just stop planning our foreign policy in 140 character tweets, all will be well.
- Chris Baskind
Heh, the Senator told me that limiting politicians to 140 characters is a good thing.
- Robert Scoble
@johnculberson - http://twitter.com/johncul...
- Kirk Kittell
Chris, his twitter name is @johnculberson
- Jason Shultz
@Mark quality response!!
- Joe Dawson
Why do I find it hard to believe that the president who touts using "the Google" and the "Internets" uses Twitter? Lord knows, McCain has yet to master Windows solitaire.
- Chris Reed
Thanks for the Twitter link. It will be really interesting to follow a politician on Twitter.
- Chris Rodgers
I wonder if Obama will tweet from the Oval Office
- Mike Hussein Cohen
Robert: I recant. 140 characters might be just the thing. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
unfortunately you can't take pictures inside the West Wing either - WH press room is ok, Rose Garden is ok but not in
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Following. - Holy moly, he just followed me back (probably auto...).
- Vince DeGeorge
Picture the monkey in office Twittering launch codes... "Twitter is over capacity. Too many tweets! Please wait a moment and try to invade Iran again".
- Andrew Smith
I follow him also - Twitter name - #johnculberson
- Craig Thomler
Commenting here so I remember to add him as an imaginary friend later (since I can't do that on FFToGo)
- Chrimmus Tad
from fftogo
Culberson was by far the best conversation of the day. He clearly loves his job and wants new technology to do it better, even if he has to learn. Amazing, amazing guy. Can't wait for his Town Hall tomorrow!
- Andrew Feinberg
wow, you guys had FUN!! so jealous... twitter in the white house holy cow! McCain is soo screwed!
- Susan Beebe
So Scoble is the Maxwell Smart of tech?
- Mark Forman
surprised they didn't just put a jammer on the the area
- clarke thomas
I'm sure we'll be able to sum up all the positive things the Bush administration accomplished in less than 140 characters.
- Kevin Shannon
About to find the John Culberson Twitter account now. Wonder what he's saying about the Scoble effect. :)
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
very cool -- like what i see... following Culberson now.
- Andy Sternberg
+1 Kevin Shannon.
- Mohamed J
very interesting to see that Culberson also follows you back- almost immediately unlike some of the other politicos mentioned in yesterday's blog post.
- Nathan Eckenrode
John Culbertson followed me back immediately and then we even tweeted. I am still unsure about the other two mentioned. I can't seem to find the rep from OH and the rep from AZ (I think) his tweets have the feel of a staffer. Bears another look today though. By far the best thread yesterday!
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I had a back and forth with Congressman Culberson last night on gas prices on Twitter; pretty amazing, really.
- Lee Stranahan
from Alert Thingy
I got an immediate followback as well-- Lee, great to hear he is genuinely on the service.
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
Rep. Culberson and I don't agree politically, but it was civil and it was a real conversation - a couple of people DMd me and said 'wow! this is cool!'. Tim Ryan is a Congressman, also on Twitter - but he follows nobody.
- Lee Stranahan
from Alert Thingy
I disagree with just about all of his politics, but I love his twitter gumption. :) Go Culbertson!
- Jarrod Morgenstern
Scoblizing The White House?:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Plurk - An investigation into the benefits and detriments of micro blogging | Online Marketing Banter - http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/plurk-a...
Dieter Schwarz, Jill O'Neill, Maki and Jason Peck liked this
microblogging a great way for companies to monitor brand image, customer service/ customer experience etc.
- Andrew Wilson
Social media for colleges and universities | Andy DeSoto - http://www.andydesoto.com/social-...
Maki liked this
Wouldn't be posting this if I didn't enjoy writing it so much: My college misses out on a chance to interact with nearly 2,000 current and former students because it wasn't social media savvy. Any similar stories?
- Andy DeSoto
from Bookmarklet
Secrets to Good Community Conversation on Your Blog - http://www.scribefire.com/2008...
Maki, Andy DeSoto and Anthony Farrior liked this
A great post by Darren Rowse of ProBlogger on developing conversation on your blog.
- Steaprok
from Bookmarklet
Twitter: Ultimate Time Waster or Great Tool? | 10e20 Blog - http://www.10e20.com/blog...
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The Five Stages Of Early Adopter Behavior - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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A minor nit to pick with the post though. You make the early adopter process seem very negative. Essentially, the reasoning being the early adopter gets "tired" of the site or its users. I can understand the decreasing excitement as you start using something more and it goes more mainstream, but part of that is due to the site not "needing" the early adopter as much.
- Rob Diana
Love the writing, love the wit. An excellent post!
- Stephen Foskett
I guess all early adopters are closet egomaniacs?
- Ro (Lilyhill)
Agree on all
- Guy Vander Heyden
@ Rob Diana- The question is wether this really is a negative process or not? Its negative because the service in question might be brilliant in and of itself but still be left in the dust by the early adopter. The point should be that early adopters are focused not on the staying power of the service but on its geekiness. Those that follow join not because of its geek cred, but because they find it useful based on said reviews by the early adopted crowd.
- Roberto Bonini
In my mind, it's not intended to be a negative process. But you can see the word FriendFeed throughout the post without having to say it, right? I often read here that XX% of all content on FriendFeed is about FriendFeed. So if you look at these five stages, you can see stages 2 and 3 for sure. Do I feel the need to announce FriendFeed Rooms or Personalization or Search? No. People already know I'm here. But others (Rubel, Loic, Thomas Hawk, Hutch, Jeremiah, Scoble) are still banging the drum.
- Louis Gray
I hope this doesn't mean that you're moving on to stages 4 or 5 Louis...
- Paul Buchheit
I don't think this is a negative post. But it is certainly accurate.
- Francine Hardaway
from twhirl
@Paul, I'm not planning on it. Given that this was a broader piece, you can see others who exhibit the behavior seen in 3 and 4, making "demands" more than requests, or trying to make FriendFeed something it's not. I've found FriendFeed to be a great addition to my information workflow, and the site's been good to me too. What I also should have mentioned is that some sites have the potential to be a permanent 3. That challenge is yours for the taking.
- Louis Gray
We're doing our best to be a permanent 3 :)
- Paul Buchheit
dude. This is fantastic. We are often thinking through the progress of the user base and shifts that occur as we (and they age). Brad Feld has a great post called: http://www.feld.com/blog.... I think yours a great compliment to this concept.
- Micah Baldwin
I think the 5 stages of Death applies here as well. example (where X is some new service, gadget, etc.) 1) DENIAL: "I don't next X. X is lame. X still has issues." 2) ANGER: "What do you mean 'it's a closed beta?' How come so-and-so got one?" 3) BARGAINING: "Someone please send me an X invite/beta/demo unit!" 4) DEPRESSION: "Is that all there is? Shouldn't there be more to life than this?" 5) ACCEPTANCE: "I occasionally use X, but not every day. Meh."
- Karim
these stages are absolutely positive
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Don't forget "Recovery"
- TranceMist
Who is Louis Gray?
- Charlie Anzman
Louis Gray is King Midas. He touches you and you turn to gold.
- Amit Patel
Sorry, but FriendFeed has nowhere near the pull of Twitter. Far less comments, even with original posts. I'm thinking of uninstalling the FriendFeed WordPress plugin - it's pointless right now.
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It probably depends on your community. The other way round at this end. I've never seen anything pull like FF
- Deepak Singh
Take a look at FF vs. Twitter on Google Trends. What's most interesting to me is not that FF has a fraction of the searches, but that twitter's has been declining significantly. http://www.google.com/trends...
- Tom Landini
Oh, but we are in early days. At one time, cassettes had a lot more pull than CDs as well.
- Louis Gray
you rarely like things or comment on them. Plus your items aren't very conversational so what did you expect? That we would drop everything to comment on your stuff?
- Robert Scoble
I've never used twitter myself, other than just following some people, but I find FF with be so much easier to keep on top of that I never even bothered signing up for a twitter account.
- Mr. Gunn
Chris, Robert has a point on this. Look at the comments on his page http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... or mine: http://friendfeed.com/louisgr.... With engagement, this could be you. This is not a passive platform.
- Louis Gray
*Hide*
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Completely opposite for me. Twitter never really functioned for me, but FF made sense in 30 seconds and now I'm hooked.
- AJ Kohn
*Hide* :)
- Bwana ☠
considering the typical reader that Chris has and probably relates to how he sees a community I'm not surprised as this at all
- Steven Hodson
Chris, Friendfeed is like a pet. You must pet, feed and care for your FF feed, i.e. give it lots of attention and thought, then it will purr for you! (virtual Chia Pet!) Louis and Robert are correct... you have to *engage* your audience to *participate* in your Friendfeed otherwise ...silence.
- Susan Beebe
I'll add that I use Twitter a lot, but purely as a communication/messaging medium, very different from FF
- Deepak Singh
FriendFeed just needs some more time. There are still a lot of people out there which never heard of it
- Benjamin Kohler
from twhirl
and if you think about the asynchronous viewing of your friend's Twits on FF, especially if you follow many people on Twitter, plus the longer comments you can do as response to the Twits...FF is the tool... I know, the Twitter is supposed to be for random, short status updates... but The Life Scientists we have turned it to a gathering / social discussion mechanism of random bits of consciousness stream, posted on Twitter by the followers of the ... cult ! (eh, the FF room)
- Ntino
Susan said it all! I also believe FF is great and whether it has the reach that Twitter does, it still is a medium for people to talk about your content.
- Mark Frost
from twhirl
I say we all head back to Jaiku. The originator of threaded comments with the Twitter style. Can't go wrong there, and I'm seriously considering it.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
I'm with Deepak. It really depends on the community. I get far more comments here than on Twitter and I have way more people following me on Twitter.
- Corvida
Susan has some great points - love the analogy, agree completely.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
I think Robert makes a decent point: FF is a two way street + you already have a strong community so FF may never really compete with what you have in terms of comments on a post.
- Duncan Riley
Actually using FriendFeed is a very good way to get traffic to your blog. Before FriendFeed, nobody read my blog. Now, it's ballooned to 300+ visits a day. I am a FriendFeed success story. :D Another bonus of FriendFeed is that I get more blog post ideas, so I've been posting more, which means that people that have subscribed to me, but have not read my blog before are more likely to find it. Since Chris already has a popular blog, This doesn't really apply to him as much as it does to me.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
(Hit max comment size) However, participating more on FriendFeed will make him a more important and well-respected figure in the community. Your brand will be more well known and so forth.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I like A better than B, because B seems to be better than A, though I see A's potential, B is the one for me. I'm sticking with B, and maybe trying out C. - Why do I feel like I've seen this many times and many places?
- Vince DeGeorge
Vince, because...you have? ;-) Chris seems to have had the expectation that merely by flowing his existing streams into the FriendFeed river that he'd see lots of ripples. For reasons Susan and other illustrated brilliantly, it doesn't work that way. Not here on FriendFeed or anywhere else. On the other hand being a contrarian and talking smack about FriendFeed on Friendfeed seems to have worked very well!
- Robert Seidman
Also, not following up on comments makes a difference. You can't expect a new community following to happen, if you don't engage it. Followers will follow you, not the other way around. And just to poke at Twitter, can you really have conversations on there? Are you sure you are getting it all? How bout when @replies is down :)
- Tim Hoeck
I dunno, Chris .... looks like a lot of comments to me ; -)
- Tom Landini
Don't hurry:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
i've found friendfeed to be far more useful than twitter is atm. Twitter has become a sea of "eating Noodles" or "good night" that it doesn't provide me the stuff I really want, a discussion. Sure the purpose of twitter is what are you doing now, but no one interprets that its the straight forward what they are doing. Friendfeed is discussions on things i like. I guess its just how you look at noise and information in the end, but give it time chris. @scoble: great comment
- BCK
Chris's FriendFeed subscriptions = 745. Twitter subscriptions = 14,042. Assuming he's got comparable numbers of subscribers...well, he's right. FriendFeed doesn't have the pull for him. How could it? Twitter subscriptions dwarf his FriendFeed subscriptions.
- Hutch Carpenter
You yanked their chains with this one Chris. Nice job! :-) Friend Feed is even more of an echo chamber than Twitter.
- Leo Laporte
twitter is suffering from the inverse of rapid viral growth - rapid viral decline, where every loss exponentially lowers twitter's value. friendfeed is likely on the climb side of the equation?
- Justin Long
N00b! ;-)
- Noah Carter
They are philosophically different tools and I think everytime we compare them; we are trying to draw a parallel between skewed planes... Yes, they are in the same space; No; they aren't parallel. Twitter is just about microblogging; Friendfeed an aggregator. Yes you can use both of them for some great discussions and discover some great content via each but there is much more to both that diverges from just this. Compeltely agree with @Scoble and @Hutch.
- Parth Awasthi
Comparing apples with oranges. Friendfeed is not about short messages, Twitter is not about aggregation ...
- cerement
Contrarian posts certainly do get attention don't they? I like FF whether or not it gains my "followers" "friends" or "subscribers". It all comes down to how the user wishes to interface with the application and its inherent community. Twitter is great for short little informational bursts be they serious or just "noise". I am also using it as a means to re-connect with the pulse of my hometown of StL. Friend Feed which jumped out to me in week 1or 2 of Twitter use seemed like the logical progression.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
(Yikes, too long a post for FF.) It serves as aggregator, place to continue ideas and conversations in a more threaded pattern which appeals to my brain. The perk is that you get all of these other streams from folks when you start looking at one thing which in my case has led me happily deeper into quite a few concepts.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Chris, what are your thoughts on all this? Curious what your response will be... I am glad you're on FF and posted this. Now you've gotten LOTS of comments! So this is a perfect case in point... it worked! =)
- Susan Beebe
We all -- ALL OF US -- need to do a mass exodus from Twitter to SOMEWHERE. Plurk? FF? Jaiku? Pownce? I don't care. But Twitter's been spending its time fighting the crashes, meanwhile other services have been innovating like mad.
- Tod Maffin
Looks like you got your comments. ;) I have the same trouble just over at my blog. Silence mostly. I can hear an echo.. of my own voice. ;) Some here have made a great point about engaging the reader to reply. Not just merely expecting it. Personally, I see you as VERY engaging on most posts, so I dont know what they mean. But good to know, as a general frame of thought for those of us, like me, having trouble gaining an audience. Also.. I see Twitter as WAY different. More casual. Comments here go deeper.
- Lisa Lee
How to use YouTube annotations - very impressive - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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- polymath22
Annotations are awesome, can't wait to use this for a client.
- Brian Carter
Viral Marketing Hall of Fame 2008: Top 10 Campaigns & Results Data - http://www.marketingsherpa.com/article...
Keep Your Eyes On FriendFeed: It May Be The Google Of Social Networks - http://www.webomatica.com/wordpre...
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I love Friendfeed rooms but I wouldn't go as far as this article does. What are your thoughts?
- Muhammad Saleem
On May 7, I shared my experience of how FriendFeed has replaced Google in my personal behavior -- "Finding Technology News: Is FriendFeed the new Google or Citeseer?" http://friendfeed.com/e... Like the Webomatica author, I think the FriendFeed interface is well-thought-out for heavy information users. Kind of a cross between Google/Media/Blogs and the information part of social networks.
- Mitchell Tsai
Unlike the author, I use Social Networks to connect with real-life friends and do business-networking, and 99% of them are not bloggers and not on FriendFeed. Keeping Facebook, Tribe, LinkedIn, and MySpace pages helps old friends from the past 30 years find me to reconnect. LinkedIn and Facebook also funnel new business contacts to me (like a Yellow Pages). I think it's very cool that FriendFeed has NOT tried to do the White Pages/Yellow Pages part of social networks, and focused on its"core competency".
- Mitchell Tsai
I think that the Google of social networks, will soon to come from Google themselves. (and hoping it will be more original than just that)
- Orli Yakuel
I think that's a big call, a very big call. I can't see FF reaching it now or in the near future.
- Mo Kargas
This is so far fetched
- Azzam
I agree that FF is a game-changer, but it isn't going to be as big as Google. The SM/SN space is too complex I think. I don't see FF replacing the other tools, but it is a great place to learn and find things. However, could I live a day without it? Most certainly.
- Tris Hussey
I would have also thought it to be farfetched when I first started on FF, but re-evaluate that after a few weeks of really using FF and being immersed in the community. I'm not saying I agree with all the points in the article -- but his points definitely resonate with my experiences here on FF.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
just discovered 2 more *actually useful* facebook apps - weird. I might be starting to like fB again!
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One is FriendFeed. The other is Feedheads. That is all.
- Louis Gray
I actually had no idea Friendfeed had a facebook app. I like it! Thanks Louis.
- Matt Harwood
FriendFeed FB app is great: http://apps.facebook.com/friendf...
- Tanath
what about facebook apps that are cool and interesting if not useful then?
- Sarah Perez
Honestybox, and Liar Liar are worth checking out.
- Tanath
Obama Pulls Ahead of Clinton in Superdelegates - New York Times - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
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at this rate, the DNC needs to solidify the party and focus on the general election. i fear that mccain is a few steps ahead because of obama v. hilary. step down, hilary, please?
- grant fox
I doubt either will step down until some financial goal is met or they are ensured some power position. Great publicity for both candidates and the DNC - meanwhile, oopps, McCain wins. The DNC is using poor strategy at their attempt to make this a Democratic race with this backwards competition going on.
- Frank Davis
Barack Obama sacks adviser over talks with Hamas. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol...
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Good thing he can't sack Jimmy Carter. Obama needs to kiss some serious Israeli ass if he wants to have a chance at winning the election. That's his motive. What does he know of Israeli independence? 60+ years of occupation, oppression, humiliation, and murder against the Palestinian population. Does he know that?
- Mohamed J
@Mo Watching the Hamas Mickey Mouse show, I see..... Show me an Israeli suicide bomber and then we can talk about murder.....
- Chris Reed
@Chris Too bad you live under a rock. There are no Israeli suicide bombers. They don't need them. They have the world's second most powerful military. Now look at how many deaths have been caused by the Israeli military occupying Palestine. http://tinyurl.com/dre3b and http://tinyurl.com/2p97rb
- Mohamed J
So you're saying that the Israeli military is more powerful than that of Russia and China? Seriously?
- Adewale Oshineye
God I hate business politics, processes, procedures, etc. I just want to make cool shit that makes a difference.
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That message really hits a nerve for me and pretty much sums up why I left the dotcom corporate world.
- Mark Krynsky
you can never get away from it for too long. Every organization, once it realizes a little bit of success, immediately gets the elements everyone like you and I dread.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Rizzn, unfortunately you speak the truth.
- Mark Krynsky
The FriendFeed Orgasm And Why It Is Off The Mark » David Risley - http://www.davidrisley.com/2008...
Kevin Donahue, Tamar Weinberg, Prokofy Neva and 28 other people liked this
No offense, but it looks like the author's having a similar reaction to FriendFeed as his reaction to Twitter. No matter when he got into it (early or later in the service's life), how long has he been using Twitter? And how long FF? FF just hasn't been around long enough for him to get used to it. Which is fine; tech takes time to prove its utility.
- Brent Newhall
LOL at the title
- TranceMist
Although I agree with the concern about FF claiming comments that would have otherwise been posted to the originating site, the complaint about repetition is just a symptom of self-entitled laziness. Just skip over the redundancies and stop expecting everyone to do everything for you.
- Akiva Moskovitz
from Alert Thingy
Oh, puhleeeeze. Bloggers want comments? Sure, ego-tripping and ad-money driven bloggers care about the volume. Real bloggers care about the content / value. And if you can't use the various features that let you reduce what is "noise" to you, let it be. I don'
- Alex von Halem
Alex: I agree with you.
- Robert Scoble
bad finger! went and hit the return key, before you were supposed to. Anyways... I meant to say: I don't care WHERE the discussion takes place as long as it does. And FF is good for aggregating stuff from different places, so why would I want to limit discussion to my own blogs?
- Alex von Halem
My opinion on fractured comments has already been well documented, and my bookmarking does not endorse the author's conclusion. :-)
- Louis Gray
Sounds like David misses the mark to me -- are we the lost ones or are the skeptics not giving Friendfeed the props it deserves?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
From post: "I had some well-known bloggers commenting on my story. Scoble. Louis Gray. Others. But, those comments were on FriendFeed! I’d MUCH rather have those guys here on my blog." Yeah, there's a replay of the fractured comments angle. I still say this: FriendFeed comments are likely those you would never have gotten on your blog. Enjoy the new source of comments!
- Hutch Carpenter
Way off base in article content. But the article title ROCKS. Grabs you. :-)
- Mitchell Tsai
Hutch: I refuse to comment over on that article out of principle. But here? Heheheh.
- Robert Scoble
The real solution is for blog software to notice FF comments and link to them.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
I find it so much quicker and handy to comment on friendfeed. Discussions in blog comment sections are awful, with @31 here and "To the guy 4 comments above" there. I want more comments on friendfeed than my blog, because I want a conversation, not praise / ego boosters.
- Matt Harwood
Kenneth: Disqus does just that.
- Robert Scoble
No offence but its silly to claim that only ego-tripping and ad-money driven bloggers care about having comments on their blog. People want the FF comments on their blog because a great part of their readership might not be using Friendfeed. For example, this discussion on FF is great but the non-FF users will probably not see it (unless they click over and browse around). And so the blogger and his/her readers lose out on a potentially enriching discussion.
- Maki
It's the way of the web. Comments will just be further dispersed, reaching places you never knew were there. For me, I see that as inevitable and very exciting.
- Alex Williams
Robert: Yet one more reason to move my Wordpress blog to another server... :) Wordpress.com won't support plugins like that.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
@Maki just import a FF feed onto your blog and all is good.
- Alex von Halem
My comment on the post: The noise level is really high and the echo chamber effect is definitely a problem. However, all of these are just side effects because every aggregation of the same item is necessary to some extent. Some people hide all Twitter items. That's ok, get it through to them through Google Reader or your blog posts. As for the echo chamber effect, stop following so...
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- Corvida
I wonder if he's a little annoyed that there's more than 2x as many comments here than on his blog post?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@Alex and Scoble. Post back to the blog itself out of respect and common courtesy. I know it's a pretty foreign concept for some, but it's "the nice thing to do." There's nothing wrong with carry on here on Friendfeed, but at least inform the author of something if you have something to contribute. Not everyone is a Friendfeed junkie!
- Corvida
[commenting here just because I want to be able to go back to this discussion later] ;)
- Aviv
@Corvida I'm assuming you're responding to me and not Alex Williams (?). Good point. Tedious. But I'll go back to the OP and post my original comment there. This does throw up an interesting question, though. Does a blog poster have a right to be responded to at his own "location". Do journalists do that? (!)
- Alex von Halem
I just realized posting there means I have to go back there to see what else develops. Now there's the value of FF.
- Alex von Halem
It's just more convenient to comment here but people will still click through to the blog entry.
- Morton Fox
Corvida: no. It's not my responsibility to make the blogger/journalist aware of where I'm talking about him or her. And, if they aren't already watching their referer log anyway to see where traffic is coming from, then they probably don't care anyway. FriendFeed is driving a lot of traffic now.
- Robert Scoble
@corvida donate $ when you utilize open source software, it's "the nice thing to do". (people who say they do pirate PS/music, lies). If people (including the bloggers) want in on the conversation then they need to go get in on it. It's easy to see how bloggers *expect* that some ethical guideline should be drawn whereby the conversation's obligation is to seek out the blogger... it's an issue of complex as well as a rehashed debate. it boils down to debating freedom of speech. that's an impossible fight.
- Matt Shaulis
Sometimes it scares me when I agree with Scoble. People wanting to control things they can't control is nothing new. Besides what kind of fool of a writer do you have to be to NOT want so many people talking about what you wrote that it is impossible to participate in all the conversations it generates?
- Robert Seidman
The irony is thick. I bash FriendFeed for the noise level and today it is sending a lot of traffic to my blog. FriendFeed does certainly drive traffic.
- David Risley
from twhirl
More of my thoughts on this here: http://shegeeks.net/self-in...
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
David: why wouldn't it drive traffic? All the cool kids are hanging out here with our fingers on the mouse button, looking for interesting stuff to read. More fun than hanging out at TechMeme.
- Robert Scoble
David: Your blog is now saved by 208 people at Del.icio.us. :-) I added one more. --- Sometimes it's the conversation you generate (and not whether anyone agrees with you)...
- Mitchell Tsai
Part of being a blogger is stoking the flames. I did that today in order to show that FriendFeed isn't perfect. Robert Scoble, you not posting a comment on the post "out of principle" is childish. FriendFeed'ers, don't stick your nose up in the air and be cocky just because somebody questions your medium. FriendFeed IS nice. But, it is NOISY.
- David Risley
David: it's not childish. I wouldn't have even known about your blog if it weren't for FriendFeed. Oh, and now you're adding to the noise. It's so beautiful, don't you think? Thank you! If you don't want noise, go read Google News or the New York Times.
- Robert Scoble
I'll second that, Robert. I would never even have heard of this blog, had it not been for FF. I guess we all just ahve to lose a bit of our vanity to succeed in the information age.
- Alex von Halem
@Robert Scoble Google News and the New York Times have probably even more noise, because you have no or just little control, you get a piece of everything. FriendFeed is much less noisy. @Topic: The article is pretty stupid link-bait. After playing just a little bit with the "hide"-controls, FriendFeed is very usable. I stopped using Twitter actively because of the crazy amount of noise.
- sebmos
Mitchell Tsai: Yeah, I know. That was kind of the idea in this case.
- David Risley
Robert: I'm a blogger. I'm all about the noise. But, that same noise is why FriendFeed is only going to appeal to people like you and me. Our business is about the noise. We're a little different. For people following FriendFeed Twitter-style, it is NOISY. Really noisy. It's beautiful like a stampede. :)
- David Risley
David: there are ways coming to look at only the signal. Already I'm noticing that posts that have more than two comments are usually pretty good signal. Or, more than two likes. Or, posts that have more than two likes and more than two comments are REALLY high signal. Certainly higher signal and less noise than most other places I hang out on the Internet.
- Robert Scoble
I say this all the time, but maybe it can help you David. Try filtering by service, or clik on Scoble's comments link http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... or Louis Gray's, etc. There are a couple of features like these that can help you with the noise.
- Alejandro
I don't think that FriendFeed being "Noisy" really detracts from the experience. Twitter is "Noisy" when you have too many friends and that issue might need to be addressed. I agree that some more features should be put into place to detract from the noise but if you dislike the noise so much I believe there are plenty of measures currently in place to cut it down enough (for now). The issue of not commenting on blog posts is something I agree with Scoble on. I don't think it's the commenters responsibility
- Brandon Titus
I wrote a blog post about this one, so we'll have some more incoming: http://scobleizer.com/2008...
- Robert Scoble
... wouldn't it be really funny if I deleted this entry now? :-)
- Louis Gray
haha Louis. But that will just encourage him to write a new post about how much traffic and conversation this sent his way. Of course he'll probably do that anyway. Ah, linkbait!
- Robert Seidman
Great title, I can see this as generating the most interest today! I read the Shegeeks article and see from the comments Scoble has one up as well. I don't really agree with David's comments especially about it sucking for bloggers!
- Joe Dawson
Seidman: Would you ignore such a thing? Seriously. I'm just saying.
- David Risley
Scoble, nice touch linking to the FriendFeed entry rather than the blog post itself. Is your nose elevated about 27 degrees into the air? Otherwise, good post, though.
- David Risley
David: and every single one of them will click over and check out your post too. Point made. Did you notice that most people are commenting here and not on my own blog? I go where the conversation is.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble: Agreed. However, I thought linking to bloggers is kind of an etiquette thing. It would have never occurred to me to link to this rather than the post which generated the conversation in the first place.
- David Risley
BTW, one thing I'll credit FriendFeed for as well...it certainly cut through the noise and has you and I speaking. Couldn't do that on Twitter. Are you coming to Gnomedex again this year?
- David Risley
David: I wanted my readers to see the conversation that's happening in both places. I guess you didn't read Steve Gillmor's "links are dead" piece. I used to be disappointed that people didn't link to me either. I got over it.
- Robert Scoble
ha, it really is Adult FriendFeed.
- edythe
Admittedly I found it overwhelming but the more I use FF the more I like it. It should only get better.
- Gabriel Nijmeh
The author guy is very defensive per his calling Mr. Scoble snobby.
- Mike Reynolds
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Thanks for the TwitterLocal leaderboard.
- Mike Reynolds
Greasemonkey Scripts For the Social Media Addict - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
nouhad, Gadiel Rivera, Maki and 4 other people liked this
OK, now this is TOO far!!! Scoble bobblehead: http://www.zude.com/index...
Lou Rech, Mike Reynolds, John Deisher and 19 other people liked this
LOL
- Darth Guru
made me smile!
- Laura Whitehead
from Alert Thingy
lmao wow!
- Corvida
from Alert Thingy
love it! LOL
- James Hull
thats a riot
- John Helmus
awesome!
- Thomas Hawk
lawl
- Sam Purtill
"This will piss off Arrington quite good! Ha Ha"
- Russellreno
really wish I could embed that thing on Mahalo's Robert Scoble page ;-)
- C. K. Sample III
from twhirl
You love it ;)
- Leif Hansen
from Alert Thingy
All the stress relief I need is an even dozen of these bobbleheads and a BB gun !!
- martin english
lmao Zude Scoble Bobblehead is awesomesauce approved!
- Corvida
bobble boy has a better figure then you Scoble
- Noah David Simon
from twhirl
the question is... does impressive technology make it cry?
- Bastard Operator From FF
Now that's just too funny
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
from Alert Thingy
Now Mr. Scoble has really sold out :)
- Mike Reynolds
Next up. Scoble action figures. Pre-order yours today !
- Charlie Anzman
amazingly, this tweet has stayed up on FF longer the twitter has stayed up
- Bastard Operator From FF
from twhirl
1 Like for @Sean :)
- Steven Hodson
LOL Bobblehead. Hope you don't feel too bad Scoble. :-) It's cute...
- Mitchell Tsai
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