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I haven't visited Twitter since the new Friendfeed UI came out.

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i have.... if you look at my profile...u see lots of fail whales :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Most of this time you couldn't even if you wanted to. This... is... FAIL WHALE! - Joe Kavanagh

I know what you're saying Leo! I have Tweedeck running in the background just just I need to hear that little alert noise... ;-P - Walt Ruppar

like someone said.. that fail whale page should be monetised! - Rob Sellen :o)

how about a screencast of your Beta FF , stream ... any tricks or tips to share ? - johnpiercy

Been more on twitter since the new friendfeed UI came out. - Dan van Moll

daniel.. why??? - Rob Sellen :o)

anything special to set up? - Mark Essel

where mark.. here or there? - Rob Sellen :o)

it's definitely pretty. now i just need to get all of my buddies to move over to yet *another* service. ugh! - redboy

show them how you expand on conversations from them other places here ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Welcome back, Leo :) - Mona Nomura

It's too bad more people (in my circle of friends) don't use friendfeed. Then again, they don't use Twitter either. Everyone is on Facebook tho :-/ - Doug Jones

Good for you, Leo. Be one of US! - Josh Haley

I DO agree with you there Leo Laporte.. me either.. and the new Seesmic Desktop client didn't help either.. friendfeed ftw - Qbat

I haven't visited Twitter since I figured out how to post via IRC. - Pete Brown

My Twitter activity has dropped as well. What's ironic is that I'm hearing about a lot of Twitter issues since the new FF beta... very strange - Bwana ☠

Rob: I meant here with the FF beta ui - Mark Essel

I'm with you all, the FF realtime feed has almost completely replaced twitter.com for me. Wild - Jeff Carter

I'd bet the Twitter issues are being caused by all the FriendFeeder's dumping their content back into Twitter through the API. Just a guess though. - The Griff

mark... yeah add filters ;o) use them. :o) if not following bwana follow him... ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

thanks Rob, I suppose there's a better way to get this to update then hitting refresh? - Mark Essel

it all updates live time now anyway. :o) but yeah use filters ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I think in a lot of ways Twitter is *too* minimalist. I appreciate at least one level of comment threading that almost every other site supports. Also, sometimes I like to be wordy and don't want to post everything in 160 character chunks. - Doug Jones

@Rob: I get all interesting posts delivered to Tweetdeck anyway (because ppl crosspost) and always used FF for discussions and not "regular updates".. I'm pretty happy with Facebook, being for close friends, FriendFeed being for discussions and Twitter for everything else (like recently spending time with my friend, the whale) :) - Dan van Moll

But Leo, you are a Social Media Butterfly. ;) - Robert Hafer

@Bwana: That's true! Since FF beta release on monday the "whale-rate" increased significant. Twitter recently disabled the "delete" function for tweets -- maybe to ease server load (see elections 2008, where they did this, too). - Dan van Moll

Am learning how to use FF. Pretty good I think :) - mahjongmi

@Doug: Same here.. But I'm pretty fine with my "real life friends" being on Facebook and everyone else being on the twitters/friendfeed.. especially since the new Tweetdeck made monitoring Twitter and Facebook so easy. - Dan van Moll

I wish I could "automatically" have all of my twitter friends' posts show up in ff. I've imported all of my twitter friends who are on ff, into ff, but for those twitter friends who are NOT on ff, is what I'm missing, and forcing me to still watch twitter a bit. Any good solutions to that? - Dan Nimtz

This is interesting? Will this be the new twitter? I would like some customization too. - Disney By The Numbers

what i am waiting for Dan.. that way I can stop using twitter full stop :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Hmm maybe I should just invest a little more time into "learning friendfeed" (especially lists). In general it has everything Twitter got plus a better visualization of discussions.. do you all use the website or are there tools like Tweetdeck out yet? - Dan van Moll

use the website dan ;o) how can we all not improve it via feedback if we dont use it ;o) these people ACT on feedback ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

@Rob: Hmm sounds reasonable =) - Dan van Moll

ok I'm following @bwana, now to find those filters...(got blind sided by 3 articles) - Mark Essel

Figured out how to see non FF Twitter friends on my feed...may not work for protected updates tho. - The Griff

Griff.. care to share? i got a room with all my twitter replies going to it.. but really want a stream with ALL my twitter in it, so i just reply from here. - Rob Sellen :o)

ahh I see there's a beta.friendfeed.com hmmm looks familiar - Mark Essel

Posted it to my feed. Basically just "Create a Feed", make it private if you want. Then add the twitter service pointing to your (unprotected) friends. Can do one feed per friend to make it clearer or one big feed if you want. Still checking whether it'll work for protected friends...thinking it might since you are already signed into Twitter from FF. - The Griff

The funny thing is that I read this while listening to the Gillmor Gang from last weekend which was all about Friendfeed. - Michael K Pate

Leo, do you think that will continue? - Ed

I'm visiting it a lot less, too. - Robert Scoble

Leo, are you automatically creating imaginary friends for people that are on Twitter but not on FriendFeed? Anyone know of something automated for that? - Jason Carter

Same here. Now if only FriendFeed had a native iPhone App. But Nambu is pretty good. - Adam Nieto

thats what I already do griff.. i dont get the whole twitter stream.. ;o( - Rob Sellen :o)

I did once... to follow someone who was only on twitter. But this place is home now. - Aaron

Trying out friendfeed for the first time... seems pretty cool - Danny Dunn

I think I might just make this my home too! - Kevin J Hatton

welcome to all you new users. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

do you follow all your twitter friends here? I wasn't able to get that rss feed into FF - Mark Essel

Really glad to have you over here Leo. It really is a superior medium. - Thomas Hawk

Liking the iPhone UI though a native app will be nice. Tweetie sets the bar for Twitter clients let's hope for something similar on the iPhone. But I would like a desktop app too. - Ken Knight

I'll visit Twitter just to see if people have replied to me in Twitter. - John E. Bredehoft

Honnestly, I don't understand. You've just "broadcasted" this message, Leo. Where's your contribution to this discussion? Live, real-time or not... where's the difference (to you)? - directeur

Griff: Not clear on what you're doing and/or getting out of the feed you made. Rob's question seems to still stand? What the goal is: Have all those that you follow on twitter to be feeding in (as FF friends or as invisible friends) to a single feed which would then represent everything that you would see via the twitter web page. Not necessarily real elegant, but less frustrating that fail whales ;) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I've looked at Twitter more since Beta came out than the previous 30 days. - JSNFLMNG

Twitter may be a good place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. - Louis Gray

I was forced there as the corporate firewall blocked out friendfeed :S - Sanne Buurma

++++ louis. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Now that I've set up Friend Feed. I'm agreeing with Leo - Tendonitis' Bitch from Alert Thingy

Trying to find a groove on using FF, Tweetdeck & all others... - Judd6149

welcome to you new users... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

judd... just use ths ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I can't completely cut the cord from the twitters. Way too many friends there that will NEVER use friendfeed. - tomit

I initially had one private feed setup for all of my non-FF Twitter friends. I've switched to having a private feed set per non-FF Twitter friend. Each time a friend posts on Twitter it comes into my FF stream. I can then reply and by checking the box send an @ reply back to Twitter. Hope that answers the question @guruvan. The problem with having the single feed is that people become unidentifiable. I'm sure an enhancement could be made to FF to fix that. Think the 1:1 is better though. - The Griff

that is really awesome!! FF is kicking ass! woo hoo! - Susan Beebe

The new FF Ui might very well be the perfect excuse to stop visiting twitter. - Pedro Fonseca

I have, but I started using FriendFeed more after the UI change - Cristian

I generally like the new UI but, I have to say, I'm getting burned out on the long comment threads here on FriendFeed. I just don't have time for it and I'm getting better information density on Twitter. Less is more for me. - Mike Doeff

Leo is in the bag :-D - Dobromir Hadzhiev

It would be nice if FF implemented a Twitter client using the API and automatically made non-FF users imaginary. - Peter Warnock

How about opening up a method in the API to create imaginary friends and let the community build some tools to automate porting friends from other services? - Brian Stoner

Then why is it all up and down FF, I see posts from you from Twitter, Leo? Am I missing something? - Steve Austin

Steve, if you view the Twitter profile and see the source they are from FriendFeed, Tumblr etc ;) - Nicholas James

So when I see the twitter icon next to one of his posts, that doesn't mean that it was first posted on twitter? I'm not trying to be accusatory or anything, just trying to learn... - Steve Austin

I second this motion. Tired of recreating friend groups. - Bryan Griffith

Steve; sometimes posts which receive "likes" and "comments" get bumped in the users feed. Although it does appear that Leo is using Twitter unless FriendFeed is recognizing the imported Tumblr items to Twitter as a source from Twitter. I'm not exactly sure on that. - Nicholas James

Is Twitter up? ;-) - David Bausola

It seems as though most people on Twitter INSIST on posting the very same tweets here, too. So what's the point of reading Twitter again? - Stan Scott

That is the frustration most have. FF consolidates all feeds for all social sites in one location, so redundancy is inevitable.Now if FF incorporated a service like Ping.fm into the site, and build an app to support all mobile phones and appliances you would never have to go anywhere else! ;) - Aaron Friedman

My reaction is that FriendFeed does not really add value over Twitter and other silos. - Scott Royall

That's nothing yet! I haven't ate, drank or slept since the beta came out. I'm gonna sue these FF bastards, mark my words. ;) - Meryn Stol

Scott: really? You clearly have NOT looked very deeply. - Robert Scoble

Twitter never got me, or i never really "got" twitter. I'm much happier here on FF, not really because its real time, but because i find the content and conversations much more interesting. - Lasse Johnsen

Oh and i actually FIND the content and conversations here. - Lasse Johnsen

I have said it before and I'll say it again: How much can you really say in 140 characters anyway? - Meryn Stol

lol - Rachael Depp

a few words meryn... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Are you serious? The best part is the simplicity of threading on tweets, and watching quality content in your network rise to the top. - Kevin Elliott

likewise - CharlieWhiskey™

I'm unimpresed. Think about it. You have to have an account on every service you want to aggregate. Each of those accounts has to be maintained. If you don't have those sources, you have a very dull FF account. - Scott Royall

Scott, you can participate on FF without using any external services. Just comment, and post messages (and links) yourself. It's very much like Twitter then. Only way better UI. A UI which is impossible to duplicate on the Twitter platform atm. - Meryn Stol

You want imaginary accounts that generates imaginary content? Thats totally Web 5.0! - Lasse Johnsen

Yeah? :-) Good for you :-). I was enjoying your episode on the xserve today. - Richard A.

What is the goal of Social Networking? To provide a way to interact with people who interest us, right? So why do we keep re-inventing it? Each time we do, we have to rebuild our commnities. - Scott Royall

Scott: because we keep figuring out new things to do with it. Yelp is a social network for restaurant reviews. Upcoming.org is a social network for events. Friendfeed is needed because Twitter doesn't do enough. I'm sure there'll be others that will come along that will compete with friendfeed, too. - Robert Scoble

My take: Something like FF ends up accidentally doing the opposite of what it intends by creating yet another refuge for discerning users to flee to. - Scott Royall

Scott: ff is doing something other social networks have proven incapable of doing so far. First, it's live. Second, it has filtering that Twitter will never be able to match (Twitter doesn't have the metadata that friendfeed has). Third, friendfeed has a much better conversation surface than Twitter does (or facebook). Fourth, friendfeed's rooms (er, feeds) are a place where you can do private business much better than on any other network. Fifth, friendfeed's direct messaging features actually work. - Robert Scoble

Finally, I just saw my fifth fail whale of the day over on Twitter. Friendfeed hasn't failed for me EVER (it was down for an hour quite a few months ago but is 100 times more reliable than Twitter and faster than Facebook). - Robert Scoble

I am happy for you. Unfortunately you still cannot get Friendfeed via SMS so when I am at work, I cannot get those updates so I will stick with both. - Paul L. McCord Jr.

Paul: yup, there's a lot of things that Twitter does that friendfeed doesn't. It's why I stay on both too. - Robert Scoble

Paul, you can receive FF updates via IM, would that be a viable option? - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Yes Robert, you duplicate effort, which was my point. - Scott Royall

Scott: there's a tax to pay and I paid it. Yes! :-) - Robert Scoble

hope you don't mind me using this thread in my blog post today : http://www.techsoomer.com/friendf... - Kevin Pruett

Robert, social networking is a major part of your life. I think most people just fit it in. - Scott Royall

Scott: there are more and more people who make this stuff a major part of their lives. You've gotta see the engagement stats for Facebook. Off the charts. My wife is addicted. - Robert Scoble

Kevin, go for it. - Scott Royall

@leo et al: I haven't visited FriendFeed since the new TweetDeck came out ;-) - Jason Goldberg

Jason: are you on http://beta.friendfeed.com ? Tweetdeck is a lot less interesting than it used to be. - Robert Scoble

I am glad you are accessible to us fans now :) You do amazing work. I am glad your not bound by tech tv any more and can do what ya like ^_^ - Stephen

Same here.. the instant FF released it's new UI. Twitter is acting like Cry baby with Fail Whales http://is.gd/rGcJ - Sardar Mohkim Khan

It's all Rob's fault that twitter is being ignored by me. Is it coincidence with the new ff ui? They say that things happen in perfect timing, when they're supposed to. - Myrna

It seems to me there are two sides to social media: personal and professional. Just when I figured Twitter would win the professional side Friendfeed beta comes out. I have to wonder if the beta will cause the services' roles to switch. Then again why would anyone but close friends care about my Netflix queue, etc? Perhaps that's what filtering will help but FF needs some templates. - The Griff

please pardon me, but new UI is terrible :P I pray God twitter will never change. - Bicentennial (Franc)

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