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apocalypse - http://skitch.com/duncanr...
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Doesn't mean we should go about CAUSING the End of Days, either.
- Cyndy
"i can see the apocalypse from my house!"
- sean percival
I don't get it. Obviously, whoever made it isn't Christian and doesn't get it either :)
- Patricia
that's offensive
- Drew Lucas
Does Palin's parish actually believe that they are the "final" generation and that she is instrumental toward the end of days?
- Wes Hoogenboom
This graphic is dead on -- Palin is closely associated with Christian Armageddonists and Dominionists, and has herself remarked that Armageddon may occur in her lifetime. She gives every indication that she wouldn't hesitate to help bring about Armageddon with wars against Iran and Russia.
- Sean McBride
@Wes: She's Christian, right? Then, yes.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
@Drew: Also: true.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
What's interesting is that, from a historical perspective, Jesus' ministry itself was highly eschatological.
- mikepk
Any idea where the image comes from originally? Looks familer?
- Roberto Bonini
All Abrahamic and monotheistic cults are highly eschatological -- eschatology is practically what defines them.
- Sean McBride
just saw this on imgfav ... awesome pic
- johnpiercy
in 2004 I posed the end-times question about Bush and his policies - "If you knew that your credit card company was going to be wiped out within a year, would you hesitate to charge what you needed? Especially if you had the Almighty's word that you were doing His work as you were spending?" http://allied.blogspot.com/2004...
- jeneane sessum
OK so my work filter is blocking this site - is this legit from the campaign?
- R. Ferguson
Many of the evangelical groups which claim to support Israel really only support Israel because they think that in doing so they can hasten Armageddon. I'd say though, that these Christians represent a small minority of Christians in general. I have heard that Palin's church claims that Alaska will be a "refuge" during the end times which they believe are near, so I'm not sure how far...
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- Chrimmus Tad
Ruth - of course this isn't from any campaign - it's a joke poster. Edit: Sorry, that came out snarky. Didn't mean to be snarky, I just don't think anyone intends to make anyone think this is a real campaign poster.
- Chrimmus Tad
Ryo: Google [palin armageddon] [palin dominionism] [palin cnp] [palin john hagee] for all the telling details on her connections to religious extremists and Armageddonist fantasies. She is firmly embedded in an ideological and social network that is praying for world destruction, as soon as possible. Her main sponsor in the Republican Party is the CNP (Council for National Policy), which was founded by Tim LaHaye, the author of the Left Behind series.
- Sean McBride
@Sean Yes, of course you're right, but there are degrees. The "how likely is it to be in my lifetime" kind of thing. Most of his immediate followers thought it was imminent. The scary part (as per the poster) is the people who think they can accelerate it by forcing the fulfillment of prophecy.
- mikepk
Michael: good point: monotheistic sects vary considerably in the intensity with which they focus on imminent End of the World scenarios. The most frightening belief of all is the crazy notion that one can accelerate the coming of Armageddon, the Messiah, the Second Coming, etc. through human aggression. Sarah Palin is closely associated with that branch of Christianity, and she is already making noises about military confrontations with Iran and Russia.
- Sean McBride
the irony of Christianity being demonized probably doesn't hold enough potential energy to be a useful stopgap anymore. Solutions and direction are what we need rather than more diversion and derision.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Roberto Bonini asked, "Any idea where the image comes from originally? Looks familer?" I'm guessing it was a margarine ad.... ;-) <jk>
- Yule Heibel
The image is of a style very much like the ones included on most bible tracts.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Ryo: religious fundamentalists tend to be power freaks who use "God" as a weapon to scam, rip off, plunder, enslave and exterminate cult outsiders. Thus has it ever been. Enlightened religionists are a different matter entirely.
- Sean McBride
right on sean mcgee.
- SolidSmack
from twhirl
Has anyone actually read the Bible, the apocalypse is a battle brought on after a never before seen time of PEACE. Ignorance!!!!
- Mike Lewis
As soon as religious extremists start injecting their crazy ideas into public policy and daily governance, they become fair game. In fact, ridiculing them then becomes a matter of urgent moral and practical necessity. The American Founding Fathers wisely sought to separate church from state.
- Sean McBride
Sean McGee, it's one of my favorite aspects of FriendFeed: seeing no religious proselytism here but seeing a ton of anti-religious posts (or posts smugly mocking religious people).
- Akiva Moskovitz
If anyone is being mocked here it's people who think that we need to accelerate our way towards a global war of devastation on a scale unimaginable. I have no problem with mocking that particular religious belief. As I've said before the vast majority of Christians don't hold these views and we aren't mocking them.
- Chrimmus Tad
Akiva -- I respect the right of people to believe whatever they like about religious matters -- that is a sacred American principle. Nor do I think religionists should be ridiculed -- on the contrary, many religionists are highly praiseworthy. But when characters like George W. Bush start to take Americans as a whole into self-destructive wars on the basis of extremist religious beliefs, then I think one must speak out, simply as a matter of self-preservation.
- Sean McBride
Akiva - another example. For many centuries antisemitism was enshrined as a core belief in important strains of Christianity, including Roman Catholicism and Lutheranism (Martin Luther was a virulent antisemite). These religious beliefs played a major role in producing the Holocaust. More Europeans should have expressed strong opposition to this brand of religion before the worst happened.
- Sean McBride
http://tinyurl.com/3ewnnz Andrew Sullivan: "Palin's spiritual colleagues describe themselves as part of "the final generation," engaged in "spiritual warfare" to purge the earth of "demonic strongholds." Palin has spent her entire adult life immersed in this apocalyptic hysteria. Ask yourself: Is it a good idea to place the most powerful military on earth at her disposal? Do we actually...
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- Sean McBride
If your beliefs are stupid, they deserve to be ridiculed.
- Eric P
@Sean McBride That's actually Andrew Sullivan quoting Sam Harris, from this Newsweek article: http://ub0.cc/1p/0S
- Chris Johnson
@eric, if they're stupid, they deserve disregard. But lumping her peeps with all christians and then making fun of them = not cool. Nobody would like that regardless of belief or religion. Ignorance comes in a lot of forms :)
- Patricia
Who's lumping anyone in with all Christians? People who have this idea that Armageddon can be hastened to bring about the end of days or whatever it is deserve all the ridicule that can possibly be heaped upon them.
- Chris Johnson
Eric, and who determines which beliefs are stupid?
- Akiva Moskovitz
I do, as the one doing the ridiculing. But that's not the point. The point is that religious beliefs deserve no special deference or respect simply because they're religious in nature. I hold them to the same standard of reason and evidence that I do any other assertion.
- Eric P
Akiva - many Muslims believe on religious grounds that the state of Israel should be destroyed. Christian Zionists believe that all Jews must either convert to Christianity and accept Jesus Christ as their savior or be exterminated by the Second Coming of Christ. Do you treat these religious views with respect? (Others here: Akiva is pretending that he isn't reading my posts. Someone else should ask him these questions and see if you can get a coherent answer.)
- Sean McBride
And mainstream Christian belief isn't exactly any more sensical. I don't see someone as having the grounds to criticize apocalyptic mythology while touting virgin births, angels, and a zombie resurrection as some kind of rational alternative. One is just as firmly grounded as the other.
- Eric P
Oh, so what you're saying is that you don't feel you should have to be respectful of other people's beliefs if they don't meet your personal criteria. Gotcha.
- Akiva Moskovitz
No, I don't feel I should have to be respectful of other people's beliefs. You say that like it's a bad thing.
- Eric P
Akiva disrespects, holds in contempt and loathes the beliefs of many others, including many other religionists. He is not making a lick of sense on this point. No group is more capable of hating other religions than religious fundamentalists -- they outdo atheists in this department.
- Sean McBride
It is.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm surprised by the level of ignorance on display by some on this thread. No, take that back. Not surprised. Shocked, but not surprised. And ignorance is probably much too kind of a word, but this is my early morning, and I'm too groggy for an accurate descriptor for this specific combination of stupidity, smugness, and insensitivity.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins - why does opposition to religious extremists like John Hagee, Tim LaHaye and Hal Lindsey upset you so much? Are you a member of the religious extremist camp yourself?
- Sean McBride
According to who? What makes religious beliefs so special exactly, that they should be innately deserving of respect no matter how patently absurd they are?
- Eric P
Re: Sarah Palin's pastor: http://tinyurl.com/3tw34a "Pastor Kalnins is the same guy who believes that certain parts of the world are controlled by demons—guess which parts—and preaches an “end times” theology, the radical fundamentalist belief that the corruption of the Holy Land, that would be Muslims, Jews, sundry heretics and unbelievers, must be purified by God’s cleansing fire...
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- Sean McBride
Moskovitz and Hopkins: do John Hagee's religious views on Roman Catholicism deserve respect?
- Sean McBride
Sean McGee: do you think religious extremists who preach hatred and violence against other religionists deserve respect as people? In my opinion, people who promote hateful and ignorant doctrines are hateful and ignorant people -- I don't respect them. But I always hold out the hope that they can be educated and give up their wrong beliefs. I don't consign them to eternal damnation.
- Sean McBride
I get the feeling that the FriendFeed "block" function isn't working as it is supposed to. Some of the folks I've blocked are somehow able to view my posts on this thread, apparently. At any rate, in answer to those folks who've called me out, no, I'm not a fundamentalist or follower of Hal Lindsey. Like most intelligent and well-read people though, I've read and understand the Bible. That's more than I can say for some of the people on this thread, though.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Mark Hopkins' answer to those of us who are concerned about the effects of fundamentalist and Armageddonist beliefs like those held by Sarah Palin and her co-religionists on American policy and governance? -- we haven't read and *understood* the Bible. In what sense is that remotely a rational or meaningful response? That's precisely the kind of argument that a religious fundamentalist...
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- Sean McBride
Sean McGee - do you respect people who commit violence or discriminate against others on the basis of extremist religious beliefs?
- Sean McBride
+1 Mark as well. Something tells me there's a mango about this thread.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva can't handle rational challenges to his irrational belief system without becoming conspicuously dysfunctional. It seems like a fair question to me: are there are any beliefs held by religious extremists to which he strongly objects? Of course there are -- he doesn't grant them all universal respect. Quite a few of them he no doubt finds to be threatening. I know I do.
- Sean McBride
In the future, there will be nothing to aggregate. We'll have all stopped producing content, and will instead use other people's web services to endlessly repackage other people's writing. The vast majority of web content will be produced by a handful of large conglomerates: the new MSM. ;-)
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I've been working on a short story along these lines. Ideas may be valued if "new" in the future. Not based on good, just new. But we're getting awful Phillip K. Dick in this dystopia.
- michael sean wright
can you say ECHO CHAMBER! - dude, we already have this problem!
- Susan Beebe
We already do that, and that's not a problem. Each time you "create" you're actually remixturing. It would be awesome if society realized that...
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
No, I disagree. While virtually everything is derivative to some degree (not a bad thing), simply aggregating is not the same as applying one's own analysis and weaving in different sources, illustrations, and perspectives -- as we do when we create content.
- Chris Baskind
In... We'll... The... - like that?
- Mark Dykeman
Not me. But you can all repackage my content.
- Louis Gray
That might be when I retire to a lake house and write with real pen and paper - for posterity's sake, yo!
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Note to people who still want to fight the Cold War: There's this neat game called RISK, where nobody has to actually die. Check it out.
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actually it caused one casuality job as a church secretary. LOL frustrated my boss I was not appropriately strategic....silly girl.
- R. Ferguson
You've never actually played RISK, have you Wil? My brother-in-law nearly lost an eye in a horrific wrath-inspired dice toss. We refer to it as "The Kamchatka Incident."
- XDpaul
You haven't played RISK until you've played the Giant Game of RISK: http://www.flickr.com/photos... :)
- Nathaniel Payne
I've actually never played Risk. I jumped straight to Axis & Allies and now play ridiculously complex games from Australia. If actual war was as complex as World in Flames, no one would actually do it. (JUST KIDDIN', HARRY.)
- Akiva Moskovitz
[Joe Klein]: It's Raining Nazis -- Continued - http://x.techwheat.com/1OQ
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"It is important, yet again, to call out the endless neoconservative search for new enemies, mini-Hitlers. It is the product of an abstract over-intellectualizing of the world, the classic defect of ideologues. It is, as we have seen the last eight years, a dangerous way to behave internationally."
- newsjunk.com
Of course the endless desire of the far left to constantly find conspiracies to blame for the failures of their ideologies is nothing like this right? :)
- Soulhuntre
"endless desire" and "constantly find" -- and who is this "far left" guy you're talking about. You're speaking idiot talk.
- Dave Winer
It's amazing the amount of defensive deflection that comes from the right in order to avoid open debate on the issue. The comments on this article include a neocon troll who demonstrates the point. Take not of the lack of responses after the group chimes in to rebut him.
- Jim McCusker
Ridiculous article.
- Spencer
Dave, you've chided Obama for being, in essence, too conservative. You've accused him of backing down on his liberal principles (e.g., the FISA bill). Obama is the most liberal senator; he's farther left than any politician in American history. If he's too conservative for you, that puts you on the far left of the far left. You'll notice, though, that I didn't resort to childish name calling to get my point across.
- Gregory Pittman
Dave, if you don;t see that the far left is conspiracy driven then there is no point in arguing it. I specifically said "far" left so that mainstream folks wouldn't feel blindsided. However, if you think they don't exist start on Daily Kos and cross ref to Prison Planet. You want to ask for more info, do so. You want to be insulting you're welcome to do that too - but don't expect me to take you seriously.
- Soulhuntre
Gregory, 4 years ago Kerry was branded "the most liberal" Senator by the very same group that is now branding Obama with that title. Do you REALLY think that Obama can come along in 4 years and amass a more "liberal" body of Senatorial work than Kerry, who had years and years and years of being liberal in the Senate? What, is Obama some kind of leftist superhero, leaping over conservative obstruction in a single bound, emanating a concentratic, caustic liberalism so powerful that it even overpowers...
- David Worrell
... Kerry's previously mentioned super-liberalism? Man, the next Democratic Presidential candidate is probably going to have to generate some kind of liberalistic black hole, eating everything in its path, in order to top Obama amongst the liberal-o-phobia set.
- David Worrell
The article itself is a example of exactly the bias it claims to rail against - personal bias and (it seems) hatred of an ideology clouding judgment. No doubt it will play well and get linked by the ton but in the end it says basically nothing.
- Soulhuntre
David, it's all based on voting record. Obama wasn't around four years ago when Kerry was running. Yes, he has out-liberalized John Kerry. And yes, according to his supporters' actions, Obama is some sort of leftist superhero. Any other questions?
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
Let's see the full paragraph: "But it is important, yet again, to call out the endless neoconservative search for new enemies, mini-Hitlers. It is the product of an abstract over-intellectualizing of the world, the classic defect of ideologues. It is, as we have seen the last eight years, a dangerous way to behave internationally. And it has severely damaged our moral authority in the...
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- Sean McBride
Joe Klein got it exactly right: the neocons, driven by messianic xenophobia (seeing ethnic and religious enemies everywhere, all the time), have squandered America's moral authority and military power in Iraq. We now have very little leverage to apply against Russia. In any case, Georgia, by invading South Ossetia, is responsible for starting this mess, not Russia. Nearly all the...
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- Sean McBride
I, for one, am looking forward to all of the neocon patriots signing up for military service in advance of our Glorious Endless Struggle Against Communism ... Oh, wait, they won't?!? Oh, in that case, I guess they need to STFU, cuz I'm not interested in yet another version of "Let's You and Him FIght".
- Steven Perez
"Moral Authority" never counted for much of anything in diplomatic circles in any case. What will make diplomacy possible is honest discussion between leaders that share a relationship and experience level. The ability to find common ground, not to preach at someone. They don't care how we FEEL about what they did - they care what we will do about it.
- Soulhuntre
Gregory: Read what you just wrote. Compare the length of Kerry's voting record (just the length right now, we'll get to the contents later) to Obama's. Read what you just wrote again. Repeat until comprehension dawns. You'll thank me when you're finished, trust me.
- David Worrell
The way I see it, the only defense Obama has about how liberal his voting has been is to say "don't worry! you've seen so little of me in government you don;t have any idea what I stand for! So you can't be mad at me". That is not much of an improvement :)
- Soulhuntre
Soulhuntre -- you're sounding exactly like John Bolton again. Moral authority, good reputation, being liked, etc. in the world community provide enormous advantages in waging diplomacy over being universally despised and hated. But that is neither here nor there: thanks to the neocons, we lack the military resources to go to war against either Iran or Russia, not to mention against Iraq, Iran and Russia all simultaneously.
- Sean McBride
I for one am proud to be a liberal and when you poll Americans on "Liberal" issues a majority of them are too. So, keep throwing it out there. All we need to do is define it.
- Brad Nickel
@gregory Pittman Have you looked into any of the critiques of the National Journal rankings? See, for example, http://www.tnr.com/politic...
- Michael Markman
Oh yeah, while there are a large number of liberals on DailyKos, you must be an avid Oreilly fan that doesn't actually choose to read anything, because there are also a significant number of conservatives, libertarians, and all other stripes of people actually discussing issues. "We" on DailyKos actually choose to call out our corrupt party members and cleanup the Democratic party, while Republicans choose to laud corruption and try to get better at it. That is what DailyKos is about.
- Brad Nickel
We NEVER had the resources in modern times to go to war against China alone - let alone in combination with other enemies. Unless you want us to go nuke right off - then we might make it happen. Of course goodwill is a useful tool and an important thing to court - but it is NOT the only thing and it is not often something you get at the time. Do you remember the anti-US hatred in Europe during the cold war? Yet now Obama holds the events in Berlin at that time up as an example of a great human event.
- Soulhuntre
Sometimes you wind up doing somehting unpopular. Often, you will be deeply hated for it. You need to follow your own ethics (and that's anyone on any issue, not just "my" side) over popularity or endlessly chasing outside approval.
- Soulhuntre
What. Does. Obama. Have. To. Do. With. This. Article.
- Steven Perez
Soulhuntre -- would-be despots and tyrants who follow their own "ethics" (that is, sociopathic bullying impulses) against the democratic will of the people usually end up like Mussolini -- hanging from a lamppost. That's why we have democratic procedures, checks and balances, the rule of law, etc. -- institutions which the neocons are trying to destroy. In any case, Bush is no more likely to go to war against Russia than he is against Iran -- he is not entirely crazy, apparently -- or so we hope.
- Sean McBride
Michael, no point in covering "what ifs." The fact remains he has the most liberal voting record of anyone in the senate right now. And, the article to which you point contains a major factual error. Obama has, in fact, recommended the nationalization of at least one industry: healthcare.
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
Again: What. Does. Obama. Have. To. Do. With. This. Article.
- Steven Perez
Steven -- what Obama has to do with this article is that the points that Joe Klein makes in the article are too subtle and complicated for some people to discuss in a substantive way. A diversion is required.
- Sean McBride
Ah, classic diversionary stratergy. Kinda like when Bush decided to invade Iraq instead of continuing to look for Osama bin Laden. I gets it. :)
- Steven Perez
This "soulhuntre" guy is a classic troll. One minute he's an asshole making sweeping generalizations about the "far left" -- next he's a sniffling sensitive feelings-hurt metrosexual who doesn't want to be my friend if I don't play nice. Heh. A classic idiot troll, this type has been around forever. I went to school with these kinds of idiots in NY.
- Dave Winer
Proclaiming that "neocons" are raving war mongers who try and find new little Hitlers is "subtle"? Seriously? That's what you consider subtle? Frankly the rhetoric in here is getting to be too much. policies you don't agree with is not the same thing as trying to destroy the "rule of law". That kind of exaggeration almost sounds like folks looking for a new fascist threat to rally against... I wonder what Joe Klein woudl say ? :)
- Soulhuntre
Gregory, Ted Kennedy has been advocating the "nationalization" of the health care industry for thirty freaking years along with gun control, student loans, social security, Head Start, Medicaid/care, civil rights, woman's rights, reproductive rights, etc. All those nasty "liberal" programs that the American public loves. To say that Obama is more liberal than EMK is simply laughable. The poll you cite exists for one reason and one reason only... to label the Dem running as the most liberal ever.
- Jeff Jones
Jeff, that wasn't my point. My point was that the article said Obama hasn't recommended nationalization of an industry. He has done just that. I made no assertion that no one else ever had. Pelosi has made the same assertion. Clinton has. Edwards has. That wasn't my point. The article referred to earlier as near gospel had a factual error in the first paragraph.
- Gregory Pittman
Gregory, Your "point" was stated quite clearly, that Obama has the most liberal voting record of anyone in the Senate at the moment. I was just pointing out how ridiculous that assertion, and your point, was.
- Jeff Jones
Jeff, that Obama has the most liberal voting record in the senate at moment is a matter of statistical fact not open to opinion. The numbers are there to support the assertion. Not much I can do to help you see that if you insist on keeping your eyes closed. But, that's not actually what you were arguing against earlier. You've jumped subjects now. Which is fine. I can keep up.
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
Gregory, One poll of VERY questionable method (I suggest you read the article Michael Markman links for a start) does not make this a cut and dried truth. The rankings do not take into account missed votes (McCain is not even ranked because he missed so many) and it uses the faulty assumption that a vote is either conservative or liberal based solely on how many of each caucus voted for it.
- Jeff Jones
Gregory, Look, Obama is a liberal. he freely admits it and is winning anyway (perhaps because of it after almost eight years of an example of the effectiveness of conservatism). But to base an absolute statement that he is the most liberal of all in the Senate on a flawed ranking system that puts Ted Kennedy 28th is simply absurd.
- Jeff Jones
Amazon explains the July 20 outage on S3, setting the bar high for corporate communication with customers it values. - http://status.aws.amazon.com/s3-2008...
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If only Twitter were so explicit when their outages happen...
- Jorge Escobar
A really great example of transparency which should create long term loyalty.
- AJ Kohn
This is a great example of why you want great PR people to work with. The S3 group has one of those PR teams and my guess is they had a hand.
- Christian Anderson
from fftogo
I think the guys at Twitter are trying, I was thinking of Comcast, who says nothing until they shut you off, deliberately, never apologizing, offering a refund, or explanation. If anyone from Comcast is listening, ultimately this is who you're going to be competing with. You're totally not ready for it.
- Dave Winer
Pity that Apple can not do the same after their iPhone and MobliMe debacle.
- joubert berger
from twhirl
This is a good PR move by being more transparent and open with your customers when something goes wrong with the service your company provides. It pisses the customers less than if you are hiding the problems the customers are facing. When customers understand what's going on, then they tend to be more accepting or else they will walk to another company.
- imabonehead
I think a lot of the bigger companies have tried the lame-o-Twitter approach, but the Exxon Valdez event & other experiences have convinced many that good communication can be cheaper in the long run. It's hard to battle the old "knowledge is power & need-to-know only". Amazon used to delete bad reviews and do slimier stuff. Now Amazon shows (a) the most popular good review (b) the most popular bad review - because many people like it.
- Mitchell Tsai
Amazon needs to spend some time and resources to bring S3 in line with Web 2.0 developers' expectations for reliability and scalability.
- Bill Sodeman
Increased transparency is also beginning in the areas of executive coaching versus traditional psychotherapy. During the past 10 years, there's more effort by coaches to bring their own issues into coaching sessions (e.g. ok, your discussion of issue X is making me fearful & yada yada). We've had 30+ yr veteran psychotherapists come to coaching seminars to learn how the new methods work. People often connect more deeply & faster with transparency (but can be initially scary for the one being transparent)
- Mitchell Tsai
Jason, I had dealings with the guy the NYT wrote about, and he says nice things, but he isn't empowered to change anything. Like lipstick on a pig. I'm sure the Times didn't do any more digging other than talking to some users that the Comcast PR people directed them to. If he had done just a modest search the story would have been much different. Comcast does not have much goodwill among users, for good reason. Nasty company.
- Dave Winer
"A distributed system is one in which the failure of a computer you didn't even know existed can render your own computer unusable." Leslie Lamport
- Edward Vielmetti
There's a special Hell for blogs that print spoilers without warning.
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and what movie did they do that for?
- Socom
Unlike those blogs.
- Russellreno
from NoiseRiver
This happened to me yesterday.
- Michelle Martinez
Cool idea for startup - base of such blogs. And plugin for browser that alert if blog printed spoilers.
- Ivan Maslov
Inching toward federation - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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Interesting stuff. Although the rest of the world is still obsessing about Facebook. There's no conversation there which is troubling.
- Rudolf Olah
Dave, I think the best bet is to not have your Twitters show up in your FriendFeed, if you're going to continue using the script. As it is now, you've got a lot of echo.
- Bill Jennings
Barack Obama meets troops in Kuwait, makes 3-pt jumper on first try - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Swish!
- Mike Doeff
Daaaamn ...
- Chris Baskind
the coolest
- Ňicķ
jesus, i mean it is not like he's a freakin superstar so stop admiring him like one. hope he makes it better than bush, that is all i want from him
- Nils Hitze
from twhirl
Nils, if you can hit that shot, I'll say the same about you. :-)
- Chris Baskind
if he's not superstar, i don't know who is.....
- Ňicķ
Shooting hoops may become a crucial part of his campaign
- Charlie
presidential shot
- Jamie
Fluke.
- Mohamed J
I wouldn't vote for a Bulls fan
- Noah David Simon
Wonder if he can throw a baseball.
- Larry Huffman
This really shows the one thing that sets Obama apart from most other public figures: how incredibly, almost preternaturally relaxed he is in front of a crowd. Coolness incarnate.
- Dave Bonta
Impressive guy all the way around...neat!
- Susan Beebe
All star
- Jeremiah Owyang
Yes but he can't bowl which shows he is not in touch with "regular" people. After all... regular people don;t play basketball.
- Jeff Jones
Quality!!!
- Joe Dawson
"I may not make this first one" - yeah, right
- Tom Quinn
he is "on target"
- orionstarr
Now I want to see him box.(What a president we could have!)
- Lisa Creech Bledsoe
from twhirl
forget foreign policy! I want a prez that can shoot hoops.
- SolidSmack
from twhirl
that's it. i'm voting for him. twice
- Cee Bee
he is left-handed....4 of the last 6 presidents were southpaws
- Derek Coatney
Awesome!
- Mitchell Tsai
Wouldn't it be neat to have a cool president?
- Anthony Citrano
Wow.
- Dave Winer
The Lakers sure could have used him back in the NBA finals, but I think the US needs him more.
- Jon Erickson
Would have they shown it if he hasn't scored? :) Anyway I hope he'll be your next President.
- Markingegno - Donato
Too bad the presidential race can't be decided by a game of 'around the world'.
- Dave Earley
Interesting sidenote: When John McCain visited the base last year he was handed the same basketball. It spontaneously self-deflated in his hand.
- Bill Barol
If Obama agrees to do a town-hall meeting with McCain I think McCain should agree to play Around the World or Horse with Obama.
- Brandon Titus
When I saw this on Fox News, they deliberately included 10 seconds of Obama "prepping" for the shot, but somehow were too short on time to include the part where he makes the basket.
- Sanjay
2 points.. toes were over the line!
- Aaron Baer
Bert & Ernie tries Gangsta-Rap - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Vince, TDavid, Holger Eilhard and 65 other people liked this
This is so well done, awesome one!
- Andrew Baron
Excellent :)
- Colin Walker
Incredible editing, dead on!
- AJ Kohn
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111oneoneone
- l0ckergn0me
Absolutely speechless right now.
- Gavin
Love it
- Greg
Still crackin up on this!
- Andrew Baron
I clicked the "like" button, and then I tried clicking it again. Very nice work.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
HAHAHAHA this one is ALL kinds of awesome too http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mona Nomura
Nobody will believe me when I tell them Sesame Street sent me on a M.O.P. music kick.
- Jason Toney
So well done. :-D
- Jason Wehmhoener
ossim!!
- Yolanda
"ANTE UP!...KIDNAP DAT FOOL!" hahaha!
- Carlos Ayala
Brilliant !
- Mo Kargas
Uh, oh. Puppets, they scare me now.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Love!
- Hutch Carpenter
I just captured a local version of this for my personal collection.
- Andrew Baron
This is cute, but do people really like that "music?" I grew up with rap, but lately a lot of the forms it's morphing into just sound like garbage. I guess I'm just getting old... *sob*
- Chrimmus Tad
This is totally awesome!!!
- Jonathan Greene
Hate to make you feel older Tad, but that song is 8 years old.
- Chris Nixon
Swell...
- Chrimmus Tad
Also, even if the music is not your style, its just so perfect for this particular performance. So zen.
- Andrew Baron
Personally, I think Bert and Ernie rock da howze.
- Chris Baskind
dead on - so impressed
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Like? More like LOVE!!
- ::Kristen::
I didn't think they could top the "death metal" skit. I was wrong!
- Iain Baker
this is great, actually Ernie and b
- Chris Conway
Bert are more hard core than your average rapper today. But not M.O.P. Those guys are def. Brooklyn bad ass
- Chris Conway
that wa dead on accurate! awesome
- Paul Rj Muller
Hah perfect!
- Nick
Fugazi – Waiting Room - http://www.last.fm/music...
Erik Chevalier, Pete Brown, Jay Wiegmann and 18 other people liked this
I haven't heard this song in ages, still love it. Thanks V!
- Todd
Ever listened to Minor Threat? One of Ian MacKaye's previous bands. Great band, number 9 on my Last.fm top artists list... Oh, just noticed that the the new Last.fm design is now official, on for everybody. Nice. http://last.fm/user...
- Vincent X
It blows my mind when ever I come across anyone who knows of Fugazi.
- Brendan McCue
:)
- Andrew
great song....ever heard that band one last wish that guy piccioto from fugazi was in before he was in fugazi? they were so great and so sadly forgotten!
- mike
Everybody's movin'! Everybody's movin'! Everybody's movin' movin movin'!
- connor
oh man, great song, that brings back some memories.
- Sawyer
Seeing Fugazi play this song at The Roseland actually, seriously, changed my life when I was 17.
- Timothy Shey
Every time I hear this song I end up endangering my hearing and my speakers.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I'm pissed that I grew up in DC and only saw Fugazi one time... what a wasted opportunity. But I did own a leather jacket that used to belong to Ian's brother Alec; and my sister is good friends with all the straight edge crowd -- so that almost makes me cool by affiliation.
- Alan Cheslow
You know something? All that FeedBurner feedflare stuff looks like crap. Not only that, people likely to do things such as email or bookmark to del.icio.us have better tools to do so in their browser or feed reader.
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At least in my experience, people reading via the RSS feed are far less likely to take any action. They read as much or as little of the posting as they like and move on to the next one. Since I enabled full feeds to RSS, the number of comments/del.icio.us submissions/reddit submissions/etc has gone way down. (It is also possible that my recent articles have all sucked, but I'm in denial about that.)
- DGentry
I think, in general, interaction is down. We have so much time and mental energy each day -- and a million channels to disburse it. You're right about full feeds: people who live in RSS readers generally stay there.
- Chris Baskind
I swing like a pendulum in the wind on this issue.
- Phil G
I click through on RSS feeds often to comment or bookmark. However, using a lot of services like StumbleUpon, del.icio.us, and Digg, I can honestly say I have never clicked a link at the bottom of a blog post or other web page to do so. I just do it from my browser.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
Completely agree on both counts. It's annoying that the FeedFlare stuff is styled *completely* differently than the post itself (and the RSS reader one is reading it in)--looks too much like part of a banner ad stuck in at the bottom of the feed entry.
- Pete Brown
Google Reader= one way street but http://feedly.com gives me response options like comment, friendfeed and twitter, it really is a beautiful thing! It has increased my ability to read many more feeds and actually take an action. RSS has been so bland graphically that it just doesn't stimulate like a well layed out blog, but I get some images with feedly.
- michael sean wright
New blog post: "Apple's walled garden." http://www.scripting.com/stories...
Rob Dolin, asiriusgeek, Warner Crocker and 7 other people liked this
link isn't working
- Marcos Marado
Link returned a 404 error for me?
- asiriusgeek
Same here - borked link
- metaverseoz
Good post Dave. While I love many of the iPhone features I still don't like the closed platform, short non-replaceable batter, and single carrier aspects of the product. Seeing people stand in line like sheep just amazes me, but it's their right to be able to get one and run home to show off to their friends, or perhaps to be part of the 'in' crowd.
- Jim McCusker
Fake Steve Jobs prescient answer:http://tinyurl.com/ytfk68 Don't like walled gardens? Have fun w/ OpenMoko or waiting for Android
- Steve Weis
Jim, not to be a fanboy, but to say the iPhone isn't the best phone on the market is misleading. I don't get camping out for a phone, but in a world of walled gardens and not, when the walled garden is the only good thing on the market, you bet that is where people will go. I would love to see carriers open up networks and platforms, but barring that, having one cell phone that doesn't suck is still a step forward. As in most things, "It works" beats out ideals in head to head competition every time.
- Robert Cooper
from twhirl
The iPhone is good - but it is not the best phone on the market for many people - and for many uses. It simply lacks a number of features that a lot of folks use on their phones every single day. No tethering, no MMS, no stereo bluetooth, no background processing for 3rd party apps, no copy / paste, no Java, no flash, no turn by turn gps, no tether to third party gps receiver for car use, no removable memory, no ability to swap for a spare battery. As a smartphone it is feature poor.
- Soulhuntre
Great post! Left you some comments here http://friendfeed.com/e... Remember Trolls are magical. ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Dont get me wrong, what it does do it often does brilliantly, but for peopel who need the features entirely lacks it doesn't work at all.
- Soulhuntre
@Robert, the iPhone definitely has major differentiators from any other phone on the market. But the fundamentals of being a phone, like battery life & carrier choices, reception and sound quality are definite negatives that have been noted. For anyone who doesn't care about those issues the iPhone is by far the best. I personally think Apple can and will do better in future releases.
- Jim McCusker
Well, if you are in the states, you don't have carrier choice with any but a small handful of phones. Certainly nearly every instance of phone, regardless of model, is locked in the states. All that aside, I marvelled for years at how horrible the software on Moto and Nokia phones were. WinCE is still pretty abysmal, and RIM's software is more usable, but primitive. For me, I didn't get...
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- Robert Cooper
from twhirl
I want a Techmeme without any business news. Just blog posts that make me smarter, or give me things to try. I think that's why I like FriendFeed so much. Far less "so and so buying so and so" kind of news, and more about "here's how to take a better picture" or "here's a new iPhone app."
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How about you?
- Robert Scoble
Funny. I had an idea for another type of meme ... thinking of talking to Gabe and Atul Arora about it ...
- AJ Kohn
But still tech news (or heavily oriented that way). I would like even more specialized info and discussion -- like what is going on in F1 racing, the bicycle world or other subjects I am or could become interested in. I thought the rooms feature would do it but it doesn't cut it (or maybe the people here are just interested in things that interest me)
- Brian Sullivan
true. find news is easy. find useful post/article is really hard.
- Rafał Nowak
We need a SMARTER filtering services, I really need this kinda service, data flowing everywhere ... Yes Scoble, I love FF for the same reason, let me ask you, did u bookmark your fav. users ? ;)
- Alemsah Ozturk
Brian: those will happen when FF grows. Right now the feature set here is retarding its growth. They are rewriting the backend so they can add new features to let us talk to the database in new ways. WHen that happens it'll take off in growth again and bring in less geeky kinds of people.
- Robert Scoble
Alemsah: nope, I don't bookmark anything. There's way too many to bookmark at this point. And I refresh so often that I see all good stuff anyway.
- Robert Scoble
Have you spent much time on Twine, Robert? I get the impression they're tackling this problem--in their own way, of course.
- Ken Sheppardson
we're trying to do that with Regator... although we do have business in there, there is much more to it and it doesn't dominate unless it is really top news in the whole blogosphere. We are working to make quality blogs and interesting posts accessible for average people as well as tech geeks... some people just don't care that twitter bought summize - can you believe it??? hit me up for a login if you are interested in taking a look. Please forgive the fairly blatant plug. :)
- Scott Lockhart
Twine is more of the semantic analysis/social news thing. Also has a "grouping" mechanism, but it is user driven. I think we are talking about techmeme for tech blogs here.
- Rob Diana
Whatsnewandhowtomeme?
- Charlie Anzman
My biggest problem is still redundancy; I'm not subscribed to that many people here (relatively) and even so I'll still see the same story linked five times, if not the same outright link. The next Google will be the guys who can nail personalization, recommendation, and filtering, as well as a sort of aggregation of conversation by topic. So far no one has gotten even close. FF might, but it's still got a ways to go.
- Eric P
Ken: I have to spend some time on Twine. I should have done that long ago. You like it?
- Robert Scoble
What if a search engine or filtering system, similar to summize for FF ?
- Alemsah Ozturk
hey eric, did you hear twitter acquired summize??? about a million times.
- Craig Ritchie
from twhirl
@Alemsah: Take a look at this. You will love it! ;-) http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Erhan Erdogan
I definitely still hope rooms take off as the diversity of folks (from an interests point of view) grows. I'm with Brian though in looking for more interaction on other topics beyond the hot tech and social media world...
- Gus Perez
Scoble : did you use feedhub for rss feeds. Basicly, it creates a personalized RSS feed from your RSS feeds .. And it learns with your help (you say I like this one, it changes the algorithm so on...) Would it be nice if similar idea can be applied to FF ?
- Alemsah Ozturk
If "editorializing by algorithms" then you need criteria for what is important; what would be the criteria? how about leveraging likes ? still fixing and open to suggestions :http://www.thredr.com/
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Have you tried Gyzork? http://www.gyzork.com
- Rebecca Povio
Rebecca: I just looked at Gyzork. It's worse than TechMeme. Less useful stuff and even more regular old news. Sorry, that's what http://news.google.com is for and it doesn't have an awful name, either. Alemsah: too much work. Never will take off, sorry. Needs to be easy for lazy types.
- Robert Scoble
Try Technorati's Percolator or Blogrunner.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
This is why I started reading magazines again!
- David Weiner
Hey guys. This is pretty close to what we're trying to do at socialmedian. The idea is collaborative filtering at the topical level, wiki-like scaling to an infinite # of topics. We call topic-based networks, "News Networks" and anyone can create one and bring in feeds, posts, and people to track, share, and discuss news of interest. We then add an additional layer/filter by enabling people to follow "Newsmakers." It's a tough problem to solve: Turn the volume up and turn it down at the same time.
- Jason Goldberg
Robert: have you checked out SocialMedian.com? Its coming out of alpha now. It lets you enter the topics and the sources you want -- In effect, its a customizable Techmeme.
- Christian Anderson
I like friendfeed because it does a pretty good job with sharing photos and videos, not just text. I've been experimenting with the open source twitter client, Witty, to add videos, drawings, and photos for this reason too. I think friendfeed activity also suggests that TechMeme is going to need to add comments if it wants to keep current.
- Loren Heiny
Christian: I just got added to SocialMedian yesterday, will try it out.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: i too am interested in the "this is cool" type stuff. that seems to be what is popular on socialmedian. I'm still playing with how to create a really tight "news network" for essentially engadget for web 2.0. Setting up the specific topics like iPhone apps is easy. setting one up around "how to take a better picture" is harder.
- Christian Anderson
Robert: We enable people on socialmedian to fully customize their news networks to include all types of sources (e.g. business news, blogs, etc., or just a few favorite feeds). Up to you. It's far from perfect yet but getting better by the day thanks to awesome feedback from our alpha users.
- Jason Goldberg
Jason: All we know how good SocialMedian is! ; ) Great job, congrats again!
- Erhan Erdogan
Erhan Erdogan are you on socialmedian? best you could do if you want to help us is let me/us know 3 areas we're f*cking up
- Jason Goldberg
Robert: RE Twine... I'm just beginning to take a serious look at it. I like the concept of joining affinity/interest groups and having members pool links to resources they come across, but it's not clear to me yet how/if it differs much from a social bookmarking system with tags, tag clusters, etc.
- Ken Sheppardson
Although there have been about a million "so and so buying so and so" posts on FF today
- James Joyner
that's kind of what i turn to reddit, digg, and fark for.
- Brian Ries
Jason: Thanks for your invite. ; ) I got the mail for - and also send me a feed back form or just send an email erhan(at)erhanerdogan.com.tr ;-)
- Erhan Erdogan
I want a site like Techmeme, but with a way to buy books. You can't read news all the time -- you need books too. Maybe that's why I'm always going to amazon.com.
- Gabe Rivera
Have you tried http://www.rssmeme.com/ ? From what I've seen, it comes close to achieving this.
- Mark Krynsky
Regator.com is in private beta right now, but I want to do a friendfeed experiment (even though this thread is a little old now). I have just created 30 invites that will use the code friendfeed. Just go to www.regator.com and pop in the invite code and see what you think of our site. Its definitely not Techmeme but take a look and see what you think. We're eager to get your feedback on what sucks and what rocks and what is just kinda okay. I will put this on my feed as well and see what happens... :)
- Scott Lockhart
But that's what Lifehacker is for! ;) Of course, I may be biased.
- Tamar Weinberg
@Gabe: Why not develop a bookmeme site then. I'll gladly help.
- AJ Kohn
@AJKohn - I would be more than happy to handover the domain you may be alluding to (in your comments up above) Gabe if he is interested in using it.
- Atul Arora
Techmeme has lost for me a long time ago. I hope that someone builds a newspaper view out of someone's personal friendfeed homepage (in effect a personalized, subscriptions-based techmeme)
- Meryn Stol
failPhone on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Amen to that!
- Steve Rubel
from Bookmarklet
my post coming soon...
- MG Siegler
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- l0ckergn0me
lemmings. sheep. fail.
- Andrea Baker
Hooray!
- Maryam Ardakani
Let me just say it again: I am so, so glad I didn't wait in line.
- Akiva Moskovitz
ROFLMAO
- Rob Witte
from Alert Thingy
Great !
- Amir Homaiy
LOVE IT!
- George Smith
Awesome!
- Chrimmus Tad
Don't have a Jesus (or Mary) phone yet, so I can't judge. I would like to be able to judge, though!
- Alex von Halem
from twhirl
my interpretation: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Holger Eilhard
awesome!
- andy brudtkuhl
lets hope the failphone stays failing for a few more hours - my iphone error page is doing quite nicely in pv :)
- Allen Stern
great picture!
- Corey Hammond
My RogersBlackberry is humming along fine
- johnpiercy
from twhirl
My RogersBlackberry is humming along fine too ;-)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
My updated iPhone (old school) is humming along just fine (I updated it yesterday and had no problems).
- Jennifer Dittrich
Right...but its Rogers...and its Blackberry. See?
- Kamath (नमः)
hey steve if your phone is down, i can let you borrow my samsung ace - it works great, super fast speeds, and an awesome opera mobile browser :)
- Allen Stern
Hang out for a while. It finally comes on. I was down for 3 hours trying to update this AM, though
- Francine Hardaway
from twhirl
I am a committed late adopter to expensive change... vote McCain
- Noah David Simon
Brilliant!
- Sarah Crisman
from NoiseRiver
Wow. First time I've seen an item with triple digit likes.
- Mark Krynsky
me thinks it will go higher by days end ,, as the problems continue , flickr exposure + friendfeed = TRAFFIC ( Viewed 2,049 times ) on flickr
- johnpiercy
beauty! i had a 1.0 brick all day
- Bob DeAmbra
from twhirl
i think this is one of the most liked posts on FF
- Susan Beebe
love it!!
- Drew B
I am considering only blogging on napkins. You will have to come to my home to get yours. I will write you a personal message in purple marker on the napkin of your choice. But I will only accept the thousand coolest, smartest people. Line forms on my porch at 8am tomorrow. Watch out for the dog.
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um, what kinda dog?
- acedanger
I'm not kidding about the dog.
- Chris Baskind
That would be Max the Rottie. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
I've been thinking Smoke Signals...
- Chrimmus Tad
That why I follow you, Tad. You're an innovator.
- Chris Baskind
I mentioned morse code on some other comment thread...I think that's a super idea; who's gonna do it first?
- acedanger
I'll be doing cave paintings.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Di-dit / d-dah dah-dah
- Chris Baskind
LOL @ cave paintings
- acedanger
@possible248 I like that. Very intimate. "Look: my hand in red ochre!"
- Chris Baskind
You can now address your followers as "Team Chris"
- Cee Bee
Gas is too precious for the road trip to your doorstep, Chris. You guys are so old fashioned. I think telepathy is the best way to blog. Saves the time and effort of writing anything and cuts to 0 the cost of distribution/bandwidth. :)
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Are you Jason having a fit?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Lindsay, I simply assumed people would bicycle.
- Chris Baskind
Do you have a black 16GB version? Oh, wait...
- Anthony Citrano
so are hooters girls bloggers now? they write on napkins all day long
- Jennifer Van Grove
from twhirl
Of course, the cave paintings would only be done next to actual archaeological digging sites where hominids have been found. Imagine an archaeologist looking at a cave painting next to a skeleton of a prehistoric human and exclaiming, "They used Mac OSX?" EDIT: I think Windows 95 would be funnier than Mac OSX.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Thanks for my first hearty laugh of the day! :-)
- Jeff Larche
NAPKINS! Why didn't I think of that - now I feel silly for spending all that money on Ham radio equipment ; )
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
In reading all the comments, I was actually thinking "How many people named Chris ARE there on FF?"
- Trish R
I needed a great big smile and that helped quite nicely. :)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Maybe I'll start spelling my name oddly, Trish: Krîs or something. That looks sort of Scandinavian heavy metal, no?
- Chris Baskind
from NoiseRiver
If you're going to start a new trend like napkin blogging, at least call yourself Krysse or Crysce.
- Trish R
i'll do you one better, i'm going to be writing on people's hands
- Nathan Rein
Oh man. I read this and rofl'd.'
- Shawn Farner
Nogging? Naploging? Captain's naplog stardate 2008.
- Yolanda
I'm working on a machine that will beam my blog right into your brain! Actually, I'm not.
- Sprague D
I'm considering actually talking to people, face to face. Difficult, I know, but try to grasp the concept.
- Trish R
That's not very green, Chris
- Mona Nomura
Mommyblogging on diapers? The mind reels at the possibilities.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Oh I'm hitting the unsubscribe link on Calcanis right now. Vanity emailing is dead.
- Chris Nixon
I will be puutting my blog on a geocached usb key. The co-ordinates will be written on the bottom of a brick in my back yard. Only the first persont o get there can keep it.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
Hi-larious. Can I send someone in my place?
- Marcus
I think I'll go straight to intuitive blogging. Everyone sit a their computers and write what they feel I would say.
- Robert Hafer
Ok, here's an important question: What KIND of napkin are you going to use? Quality matters folks...gotta select the *right* kind of blogging platform here.
- Susan Beebe
brilliant... made me laugh out loud.
- Tony
Chris, after that I don't think you'll ever have to write anything again because that was pure genius.
- Steve Spalding
So one messy BBQ ribs dinner could wipe out a week of posts.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
LOL, nice parody of Scoble's "I only follow smart people" and Calacanis in one fell swoop.
- Dread Pirate PJ
from NoiseRiver
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