You've never actually played RISK, have you Wil? My brother-in-law nearly lost an eye in a horrific wrath-inspired dice toss. We refer to it as "The Kamchatka Incident."
- XDpaul
I've actually never played Risk. I jumped straight to Axis & Allies and now play ridiculously complex games from Australia. If actual war was as complex as World in Flames, no one would actually do it. (JUST KIDDIN', HARRY.)
- Akiva
"It is important, yet again, to call out the endless neoconservative search for new enemies, mini-Hitlers. It is the product of an abstract over-intellectualizing of the world, the classic defect of ideologues. It is, as we have seen the last eight years, a dangerous way to behave internationally."
- newsjunk.com
Of course the endless desire of the far left to constantly find conspiracies to blame for the failures of their ideologies is nothing like this right? :)
- Soulhuntre
"endless desire" and "constantly find" -- and who is this "far left" guy you're talking about. You're speaking idiot talk.
- Dave Winer
It's amazing the amount of defensive deflection that comes from the right in order to avoid open debate on the issue. The comments on this article include a neocon troll who demonstrates the point. Take not of the lack of responses after the group chimes in to rebut him.
- Jim McCusker
Dave, you've chided Obama for being, in essence, too conservative. You've accused him of backing down on his liberal principles (e.g., the FISA bill). Obama is the most liberal senator; he's farther left than any politician in American history. If he's too conservative for you, that puts you on the far left of the far left. You'll notice, though, that I didn't resort to childish name calling to get my point across.
- Gregory Pittman
Dave, if you don;t see that the far left is conspiracy driven then there is no point in arguing it. I specifically said "far" left so that mainstream folks wouldn't feel blindsided. However, if you think they don't exist start on Daily Kos and cross ref to Prison Planet. You want to ask for more info, do so. You want to be insulting you're welcome to do that too - but don't expect me to take you seriously.
- Soulhuntre
Gregory, 4 years ago Kerry was branded "the most liberal" Senator by the very same group that is now branding Obama with that title. Do you REALLY think that Obama can come along in 4 years and amass a more "liberal" body of Senatorial work than Kerry, who had years and years and years of being liberal in the Senate? What, is Obama some kind of leftist superhero, leaping over conservative obstruction in a single bound, emanating a concentratic, caustic liberalism so powerful that it even overpowers...
- David Worrell
... Kerry's previously mentioned super-liberalism? Man, the next Democratic Presidential candidate is probably going to have to generate some kind of liberalistic black hole, eating everything in its path, in order to top Obama amongst the liberal-o-phobia set.
- David Worrell
The article itself is a example of exactly the bias it claims to rail against - personal bias and (it seems) hatred of an ideology clouding judgment. No doubt it will play well and get linked by the ton but in the end it says basically nothing.
- Soulhuntre
David, it's all based on voting record. Obama wasn't around four years ago when Kerry was running. Yes, he has out-liberalized John Kerry. And yes, according to his supporters' actions, Obama is some sort of leftist superhero. Any other questions?
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
Let's see the full paragraph: "But it is important, yet again, to call out the endless neoconservative search for new enemies, mini-Hitlers. It is the product of an abstract over-intellectualizing of the world, the classic defect of ideologues. It is, as we have seen the last eight years, a dangerous way to behave internationally. And it has severely damaged our moral authority in the...
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- Sean McBride
Joe Klein got it exactly right: the neocons, driven by messianic xenophobia (seeing ethnic and religious enemies everywhere, all the time), have squandered America's moral authority and military power in Iraq. We now have very little leverage to apply against Russia. In any case, Georgia, by invading South Ossetia, is responsible for starting this mess, not Russia. Nearly all the...
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- Sean McBride
I, for one, am looking forward to all of the neocon patriots signing up for military service in advance of our Glorious Endless Struggle Against Communism ... Oh, wait, they won't?!? Oh, in that case, I guess they need to STFU, cuz I'm not interested in yet another version of "Let's You and Him FIght".
- Steven Perez
"Moral Authority" never counted for much of anything in diplomatic circles in any case. What will make diplomacy possible is honest discussion between leaders that share a relationship and experience level. The ability to find common ground, not to preach at someone. They don't care how we FEEL about what they did - they care what we will do about it.
- Soulhuntre
Gregory: Read what you just wrote. Compare the length of Kerry's voting record (just the length right now, we'll get to the contents later) to Obama's. Read what you just wrote again. Repeat until comprehension dawns. You'll thank me when you're finished, trust me.
- David Worrell
The way I see it, the only defense Obama has about how liberal his voting has been is to say "don't worry! you've seen so little of me in government you don;t have any idea what I stand for! So you can't be mad at me". That is not much of an improvement :)
- Soulhuntre
Soulhuntre -- you're sounding exactly like John Bolton again. Moral authority, good reputation, being liked, etc. in the world community provide enormous advantages in waging diplomacy over being universally despised and hated. But that is neither here nor there: thanks to the neocons, we lack the military resources to go to war against either Iran or Russia, not to mention against Iraq, Iran and Russia all simultaneously.
- Sean McBride
I for one am proud to be a liberal and when you poll Americans on "Liberal" issues a majority of them are too. So, keep throwing it out there. All we need to do is define it.
- Brad Nickel
Oh yeah, while there are a large number of liberals on DailyKos, you must be an avid Oreilly fan that doesn't actually choose to read anything, because there are also a significant number of conservatives, libertarians, and all other stripes of people actually discussing issues. "We" on DailyKos actually choose to call out our corrupt party members and cleanup the Democratic party, while Republicans choose to laud corruption and try to get better at it. That is what DailyKos is about.
- Brad Nickel
We NEVER had the resources in modern times to go to war against China alone - let alone in combination with other enemies. Unless you want us to go nuke right off - then we might make it happen. Of course goodwill is a useful tool and an important thing to court - but it is NOT the only thing and it is not often something you get at the time. Do you remember the anti-US hatred in Europe during the cold war? Yet now Obama holds the events in Berlin at that time up as an example of a great human event.
- Soulhuntre
Sometimes you wind up doing somehting unpopular. Often, you will be deeply hated for it. You need to follow your own ethics (and that's anyone on any issue, not just "my" side) over popularity or endlessly chasing outside approval.
- Soulhuntre
What. Does. Obama. Have. To. Do. With. This. Article.
- Steven Perez
Soulhuntre -- would-be despots and tyrants who follow their own "ethics" (that is, sociopathic bullying impulses) against the democratic will of the people usually end up like Mussolini -- hanging from a lamppost. That's why we have democratic procedures, checks and balances, the rule of law, etc. -- institutions which the neocons are trying to destroy. In any case, Bush is no more likely to go to war against Russia than he is against Iran -- he is not entirely crazy, apparently -- or so we hope.
- Sean McBride
Michael, no point in covering "what ifs." The fact remains he has the most liberal voting record of anyone in the senate right now. And, the article to which you point contains a major factual error. Obama has, in fact, recommended the nationalization of at least one industry: healthcare.
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
Again: What. Does. Obama. Have. To. Do. With. This. Article.
- Steven Perez
Steven -- what Obama has to do with this article is that the points that Joe Klein makes in the article are too subtle and complicated for some people to discuss in a substantive way. A diversion is required.
- Sean McBride
Ah, classic diversionary stratergy. Kinda like when Bush decided to invade Iraq instead of continuing to look for Osama bin Laden. I gets it. :)
- Steven Perez
This "soulhuntre" guy is a classic troll. One minute he's an asshole making sweeping generalizations about the "far left" -- next he's a sniffling sensitive feelings-hurt metrosexual who doesn't want to be my friend if I don't play nice. Heh. A classic idiot troll, this type has been around forever. I went to school with these kinds of idiots in NY.
- Dave Winer
Proclaiming that "neocons" are raving war mongers who try and find new little Hitlers is "subtle"? Seriously? That's what you consider subtle? Frankly the rhetoric in here is getting to be too much. policies you don't agree with is not the same thing as trying to destroy the "rule of law". That kind of exaggeration almost sounds like folks looking for a new fascist threat to rally against... I wonder what Joe Klein woudl say ? :)
- Soulhuntre
Gregory, Ted Kennedy has been advocating the "nationalization" of the health care industry for thirty freaking years along with gun control, student loans, social security, Head Start, Medicaid/care, civil rights, woman's rights, reproductive rights, etc. All those nasty "liberal" programs that the American public loves. To say that Obama is more liberal than EMK is simply laughable. The poll you cite exists for one reason and one reason only... to label the Dem running as the most liberal ever.
- Jeff Jones
Jeff, that wasn't my point. My point was that the article said Obama hasn't recommended nationalization of an industry. He has done just that. I made no assertion that no one else ever had. Pelosi has made the same assertion. Clinton has. Edwards has. That wasn't my point. The article referred to earlier as near gospel had a factual error in the first paragraph.
- Gregory Pittman
Gregory, Your "point" was stated quite clearly, that Obama has the most liberal voting record of anyone in the Senate at the moment. I was just pointing out how ridiculous that assertion, and your point, was.
- Jeff Jones
Jeff, that Obama has the most liberal voting record in the senate at moment is a matter of statistical fact not open to opinion. The numbers are there to support the assertion. Not much I can do to help you see that if you insist on keeping your eyes closed. But, that's not actually what you were arguing against earlier. You've jumped subjects now. Which is fine. I can keep up.
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
Gregory, One poll of VERY questionable method (I suggest you read the article Michael Markman links for a start) does not make this a cut and dried truth. The rankings do not take into account missed votes (McCain is not even ranked because he missed so many) and it uses the faulty assumption that a vote is either conservative or liberal based solely on how many of each caucus voted for it.
- Jeff Jones
Gregory, Look, Obama is a liberal. he freely admits it and is winning anyway (perhaps because of it after almost eight years of an example of the effectiveness of conservatism). But to base an absolute statement that he is the most liberal of all in the Senate on a flawed ranking system that puts Ted Kennedy 28th is simply absurd.
- Jeff Jones
Amazon explains the July 20 outage on S3, setting the bar high for corporate communication with customers it values. - http://status.aws.amazon.com/s3-2008...
A really great example of transparency which should create long term loyalty.
- AJ Kohn
This is a great example of why you want great PR people to work with. The S3 group has one of those PR teams and my guess is they had a hand.
- Christian Anderson
from fftogo
I think the guys at Twitter are trying, I was thinking of Comcast, who says nothing until they shut you off, deliberately, never apologizing, offering a refund, or explanation. If anyone from Comcast is listening, ultimately this is who you're going to be competing with. You're totally not ready for it.
- Dave Winer
Pity that Apple can not do the same after their iPhone and MobliMe debacle.
- joubert berger
from twhirl
This is a good PR move by being more transparent and open with your customers when something goes wrong with the service your company provides. It pisses the customers less than if you are hiding the problems the customers are facing. When customers understand what's going on, then they tend to be more accepting or else they will walk to another company.
- imabonehead
I think a lot of the bigger companies have tried the lame-o-Twitter approach, but the Exxon Valdez event & other experiences have convinced many that good communication can be cheaper in the long run. It's hard to battle the old "knowledge is power & need-to-know only". Amazon used to delete bad reviews and do slimier stuff. Now Amazon shows (a) the most popular good review (b) the most popular bad review - because many people like it.
- Mitchell Tsai
Amazon needs to spend some time and resources to bring S3 in line with Web 2.0 developers' expectations for reliability and scalability.
- Bill Sodeman
Increased transparency is also beginning in the areas of executive coaching versus traditional psychotherapy. During the past 10 years, there's more effort by coaches to bring their own issues into coaching sessions (e.g. ok, your discussion of issue X is making me fearful & yada yada). We've had 30+ yr veteran psychotherapists come to coaching seminars to learn how the new methods work. People often connect more deeply & faster with transparency (but can be initially scary for the one being transparent)
- Mitchell Tsai
Jason, I had dealings with the guy the NYT wrote about, and he says nice things, but he isn't empowered to change anything. Like lipstick on a pig. I'm sure the Times didn't do any more digging other than talking to some users that the Comcast PR people directed them to. If he had done just a modest search the story would have been much different. Comcast does not have much goodwill among users, for good reason. Nasty company.
- Dave Winer
"A distributed system is one in which the failure of a computer you didn't even know existed can render your own computer unusable." Leslie Lamport
- Edward Vielmetti
Dave, I think the best bet is to not have your Twitters show up in your FriendFeed, if you're going to continue using the script. As it is now, you've got a lot of echo.
- Bill Jennings
I just captured a local version of this for my personal collection.
- Andrew Baron
This is cute, but do people really like that "music?" I grew up with rap, but lately a lot of the forms it's morphing into just sound like garbage. I guess I'm just getting old... *sob*
- iTad
I haven't heard this song in ages, still love it. Thanks V!
- Todd
Ever listened to Minor Threat? One of Ian MacKaye's previous bands. Great band, number 9 on my Last.fm top artists list... Oh, just noticed that the the new Last.fm design is now official, on for everybody. Nice. http://last.fm/user...
- Vincent X
great song....ever heard that band one last wish that guy piccioto from fugazi was in before he was in fugazi? they were so great and so sadly forgotten!
- mike
oh man, great song, that brings back some memories.
- Sawyer
Seeing Fugazi play this song at The Roseland actually, seriously, changed my life when I was 17.
- Timothy Shey
Every time I hear this song I end up endangering my hearing and my speakers.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I'm pissed that I grew up in DC and only saw Fugazi one time... what a wasted opportunity. But I did own a leather jacket that used to belong to Ian's brother Alec; and my sister is good friends with all the straight edge crowd -- so that almost makes me cool by affiliation.
- Alan Cheslow
Good post Dave. While I love many of the iPhone features I still don't like the closed platform, short non-replaceable batter, and single carrier aspects of the product. Seeing people stand in line like sheep just amazes me, but it's their right to be able to get one and run home to show off to their friends, or perhaps to be part of the 'in' crowd.
- Jim McCusker
Fake Steve Jobs prescient answer:http://tinyurl.com/ytfk68 Don't like walled gardens? Have fun w/ OpenMoko or waiting for Android
- Steve Weis
Jim, not to be a fanboy, but to say the iPhone isn't the best phone on the market is misleading. I don't get camping out for a phone, but in a world of walled gardens and not, when the walled garden is the only good thing on the market, you bet that is where people will go. I would love to see carriers open up networks and platforms, but barring that, having one cell phone that doesn't suck is still a step forward. As in most things, "It works" beats out ideals in head to head competition every time.
- Robert Cooper
from twhirl
The iPhone is good - but it is not the best phone on the market for many people - and for many uses. It simply lacks a number of features that a lot of folks use on their phones every single day. No tethering, no MMS, no stereo bluetooth, no background processing for 3rd party apps, no copy / paste, no Java, no flash, no turn by turn gps, no tether to third party gps receiver for car use, no removable memory, no ability to swap for a spare battery. As a smartphone it is feature poor.
- Soulhuntre
Dont get me wrong, what it does do it often does brilliantly, but for peopel who need the features entirely lacks it doesn't work at all.
- Soulhuntre
@Robert, the iPhone definitely has major differentiators from any other phone on the market. But the fundamentals of being a phone, like battery life & carrier choices, reception and sound quality are definite negatives that have been noted. For anyone who doesn't care about those issues the iPhone is by far the best. I personally think Apple can and will do better in future releases.
- Jim McCusker
Well, if you are in the states, you don't have carrier choice with any but a small handful of phones. Certainly nearly every instance of phone, regardless of model, is locked in the states. All that aside, I marvelled for years at how horrible the software on Moto and Nokia phones were. WinCE is still pretty abysmal, and RIM's software is more usable, but primitive. For me, I didn't get...
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- Robert Cooper
from twhirl
I want a Techmeme without any business news. Just blog posts that make me smarter, or give me things to try. I think that's why I like FriendFeed so much. Far less "so and so buying so and so" kind of news, and more about "here's how to take a better picture" or "here's a new iPhone app."
Funny. I had an idea for another type of meme ... thinking of talking to Gabe and Atul Arora about it ...
- AJ Kohn
But still tech news (or heavily oriented that way). I would like even more specialized info and discussion -- like what is going on in F1 racing, the bicycle world or other subjects I am or could become interested in. I thought the rooms feature would do it but it doesn't cut it (or maybe the people here are just interested in things that interest me)
- Brian Sullivan
true. find news is easy. find useful post/article is really hard.
- Rafał Nowak
We need a SMARTER filtering services, I really need this kinda service, data flowing everywhere ... Yes Scoble, I love FF for the same reason, let me ask you, did u bookmark your fav. users ? ;)
- Alemsah Ozturk
Brian: those will happen when FF grows. Right now the feature set here is retarding its growth. They are rewriting the backend so they can add new features to let us talk to the database in new ways. WHen that happens it'll take off in growth again and bring in less geeky kinds of people.
- Robert Scoble
Alemsah: nope, I don't bookmark anything. There's way too many to bookmark at this point. And I refresh so often that I see all good stuff anyway.
- Robert Scoble
Have you spent much time on Twine, Robert? I get the impression they're tackling this problem--in their own way, of course.
- Ken Sheppardson
we're trying to do that with Regator... although we do have business in there, there is much more to it and it doesn't dominate unless it is really top news in the whole blogosphere. We are working to make quality blogs and interesting posts accessible for average people as well as tech geeks... some people just don't care that twitter bought summize - can you believe it??? hit me up for a login if you are interested in taking a look. Please forgive the fairly blatant plug. :)
- Scott Lockhart
Twine is more of the semantic analysis/social news thing. Also has a "grouping" mechanism, but it is user driven. I think we are talking about techmeme for tech blogs here.
- Rob Diana
My biggest problem is still redundancy; I'm not subscribed to that many people here (relatively) and even so I'll still see the same story linked five times, if not the same outright link. The next Google will be the guys who can nail personalization, recommendation, and filtering, as well as a sort of aggregation of conversation by topic. So far no one has gotten even close. FF might, but it's still got a ways to go.
- Eric P
Ken: I have to spend some time on Twine. I should have done that long ago. You like it?
- Robert Scoble
What if a search engine or filtering system, similar to summize for FF ?
- Alemsah Ozturk
hey eric, did you hear twitter acquired summize??? about a million times.
- Craig Ritchie
from twhirl
I definitely still hope rooms take off as the diversity of folks (from an interests point of view) grows. I'm with Brian though in looking for more interaction on other topics beyond the hot tech and social media world...
- Gus Perez
Scoble : did you use feedhub for rss feeds. Basicly, it creates a personalized RSS feed from your RSS feeds .. And it learns with your help (you say I like this one, it changes the algorithm so on...) Would it be nice if similar idea can be applied to FF ?
- Alemsah Ozturk
If "editorializing by algorithms" then you need criteria for what is important; what would be the criteria? how about leveraging likes ? still fixing and open to suggestions :http://www.thredr.com/
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Rebecca: I just looked at Gyzork. It's worse than TechMeme. Less useful stuff and even more regular old news. Sorry, that's what http://news.google.com is for and it doesn't have an awful name, either. Alemsah: too much work. Never will take off, sorry. Needs to be easy for lazy types.
- Robert Scoble
This is why I started reading magazines again!
- David Weiner
Hey guys. This is pretty close to what we're trying to do at socialmedian. The idea is collaborative filtering at the topical level, wiki-like scaling to an infinite # of topics. We call topic-based networks, "News Networks" and anyone can create one and bring in feeds, posts, and people to track, share, and discuss news of interest. We then add an additional layer/filter by enabling people to follow "Newsmakers." It's a tough problem to solve: Turn the volume up and turn it down at the same time.
- Jason Goldberg
Robert: have you checked out SocialMedian.com? Its coming out of alpha now. It lets you enter the topics and the sources you want -- In effect, its a customizable Techmeme.
- Christian Anderson
I like friendfeed because it does a pretty good job with sharing photos and videos, not just text. I've been experimenting with the open source twitter client, Witty, to add videos, drawings, and photos for this reason too. I think friendfeed activity also suggests that TechMeme is going to need to add comments if it wants to keep current.
- Loren Heiny
Christian: I just got added to SocialMedian yesterday, will try it out.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: i too am interested in the "this is cool" type stuff. that seems to be what is popular on socialmedian. I'm still playing with how to create a really tight "news network" for essentially engadget for web 2.0. Setting up the specific topics like iPhone apps is easy. setting one up around "how to take a better picture" is harder.
- Christian Anderson
Robert: We enable people on socialmedian to fully customize their news networks to include all types of sources (e.g. business news, blogs, etc., or just a few favorite feeds). Up to you. It's far from perfect yet but getting better by the day thanks to awesome feedback from our alpha users.
- Jason Goldberg
Jason: All we know how good SocialMedian is! ; ) Great job, congrats again!
- Erhan Erdoğan
Erhan Erdogan are you on socialmedian? best you could do if you want to help us is let me/us know 3 areas we're f*cking up
- Jason Goldberg
Robert: RE Twine... I'm just beginning to take a serious look at it. I like the concept of joining affinity/interest groups and having members pool links to resources they come across, but it's not clear to me yet how/if it differs much from a social bookmarking system with tags, tag clusters, etc.
- Ken Sheppardson
Although there have been about a million "so and so buying so and so" posts on FF today
- James Joyner
Jason: Thanks for your invite. ; ) I got the mail for - and also send me a feed back form or just send an email erhan(at)erhanerdogan.com.tr ;-)
- Erhan Erdoğan
I want a site like Techmeme, but with a way to buy books. You can't read news all the time -- you need books too. Maybe that's why I'm always going to amazon.com.
- Gabe Rivera
Regator.com is in private beta right now, but I want to do a friendfeed experiment (even though this thread is a little old now). I have just created 30 invites that will use the code friendfeed. Just go to www.regator.com and pop in the invite code and see what you think of our site. Its definitely not Techmeme but take a look and see what you think. We're eager to get your feedback on what sucks and what rocks and what is just kinda okay. I will put this on my feed as well and see what happens... :)
- Scott Lockhart
But that's what Lifehacker is for! ;) Of course, I may be biased.
- Tamar Weinberg
@Gabe: Why not develop a bookmeme site then. I'll gladly help.
- AJ Kohn
@AJKohn - I would be more than happy to handover the domain you may be alluding to (in your comments up above) Gabe if he is interested in using it.
- Atul Arora
Techmeme has lost for me a long time ago. I hope that someone builds a newspaper view out of someone's personal friendfeed homepage (in effect a personalized, subscriptions-based techmeme)
- Meryn Stol
My RogersBlackberry is humming along fine too ;-)
- AJ Batac :)
My updated iPhone (old school) is humming along just fine (I updated it yesterday and had no problems).
- Jennifer Dittrich
Right...but its Rogers...and its Blackberry. See?
- The Fat Oracle
hey steve if your phone is down, i can let you borrow my samsung ace - it works great, super fast speeds, and an awesome opera mobile browser :)
- Allen Stern
Hang out for a while. It finally comes on. I was down for 3 hours trying to update this AM, though
- Francine Hardaway
from twhirl
I am a committed late adopter to expensive change... vote McCain
- NoahDavidSimon
"Bit.ly, a new URL shortening service from the innovation network Betaworks, is launching today with a staggering feature set for both end users and forward looking developers."
- tech.newsjunk.com