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Epic Win: News Corp Likely To Remove Content From Google - http://www.inquisitr.com/46786...
Alex Schleber, Bonnie Foster, Brian and 27 other people liked this
Smart move (maybe) - if Google is paying Twitter to get their content, why shouldn't Google be paying others as well? News Corp is a big entity - is it a loss for Google to lose all that content or a loss for News Corp?
- Jesse Stay
from Bookmarklet
WOW
- Holden Page
Since News Corp suck at reporting and Murdoch is a greedy bastard, I say 'Good bloody riddance'
- Mo Kargas
I know a whole lotta conservatives that will still bypass Google to get the content
- Jesse Stay
Not to mention MySpace users - however, will MySpace users revolt now that their pages can't be indexed (if this goes through)?
- Jesse Stay
*bookmark*
- Micah Wittman
Also makes me wonder what News Corp is doing with MySpace now - what do they have up their sleeves?
- Jesse Stay
Imagine if they too set up a deal with Twitter...
- Jesse Stay
to search content, that is
- Jesse Stay
Good, it would save me the trouble of having to look to see if something comes from Murdoch's entities. I doubt this will actually happen, though.
- Rob H.
Sorry but most people won't even realize that News Corp content is missing. People will search and they'll find other sites. Sorry, the unibrow of the web wins.
- AJ Kohn
So if I link to a News Corp article via Twitter... will that tweet not be searchable?
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Johnny, they can block Google spider from news corp sites but twitter will still be indexed as usual.
- Amit Morson
Two Words... DON'T CARE
- CW™
Would be a good move if News Corp carried ALL the news (sorry for allcaps). But there are plenty of others wanting for Google love.
- Mike Reynolds
When Murdoch and his kind get together to set a price, the Government will step in to stop what is obvious price fixing. His threat is hollow, they won't set a price.
- Wallace
Rupert must have been listening to Twist #24. Calacanis suggested he do this. http://thisweekinstartups.com/2009... (somewhere near the end of the episode).
- Ken Morley
Calacanis suggested he do this???? It figures....
- Roberto Bonini
He was saying the top ten news oranizations should get together and make an offer to Bing... but that Rupert was likely the only one with the balls to do it; and that Google set a precedent by paying Twitter to index their content. :o)
- Ken Morley
Update: Calacanis just posted this: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ken Morley
Genius! epic win for sure!
- Jason Calacanis
It's curious that he would say search engine referral visitors aren't desired by advertisers.
- Rob Sterling
Only way to make money from your content is to control it from the beginning. News Corp gave it away in several ways on the internet, including allowing Google search to go through their websites. Now that it has happened, if they choose to close off key avenues of information to go out to the users that are now used to getting their information a certain way, will backfire beyond...
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- CW™
One word, "Antitrust." Or is that two words? The bulk Twitter feed apparently was not available to the public or it would have already been searched by Google. If content is available to the public now for free, I don't know how you are going to exclude some member of the public (Google) from accessing that content without creating a legal problem.
- Jimmy Walker
I love moves that make old media harder to get to, driving those bastards farther behind their walls, marginalizing their impact even further. It makes just that much more space to allow the future to get her sooner.
- Matthew DeVries
I guess new media won't kill old media after all. Old media will simply commit suicide.
- Victor Ganata
I think Rupert should do it. Not because I want see News Corp. die (sorry all) but because they have a right to control their content, and he is probably right about the fact that losing readership to actually paying subs is more worth it in the end. Plus, if google had to pay Twitter for content, why shouldn't Google pay for their content which *is* worth MUCH more (whether we like it or not)
- Holden Page
And Jason just sent around an email newsletter explaining. I'd post it but its Copyrighted.
- Roberto Bonini
What, this? http://calacanis.com/2009...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Why is he "talking about it"? Couldn't a quick change to the robots.txt file (which Google and legitimate search robots obey) exclude Google?
- Brian Sullivan
Jason get rich by flux, it doesn't matter to him who wins, as long as there is change, upheaval and instability. Flat markets are Satan that he must fight. It does not surprise me that he advocates points of view that represent a sea change in the industry. It matters not to him whether new media or old media wins, just that there is a decade of fighting.
- Matthew DeVries
For sure they want to be' payd as Twitter, the move to exit from the index is a suicide about advertising, by now it guarantee 100000 imp x day (It's in the answer of google to Murdock).
- Lucio Riccardi - CantorJF
from iPhone
Nenshad Bardoliwalla's Blog on Strategy-Driven Execution: Is Enterprise 2.0 a Savior or a Charlatan? How Strategy-Driven Execution can pave the path to proving legitimate business value - http://bardoli.blogspot.com/2009...
Daniel J. Pritchett liked this
They key activity steps of enterprise business processes embodied into today's ERP, CRM, SCM et al software, such order-to-cash, procure-to-pay, hire-to-retire, or record-to-report need to be highly structured for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is efficiency, their primary reason for being, but also for significant compliance concerns they address. I don't foresee a point any time in the near future where enterprises will leverage Enterprise 2.0 principles in the core of accounting, or payroll, or order management because there are serious risks to doing so for a business. These enterprise business processes are complicated enough without any unstructured processes surrounding in them, as you can see here in this offer creation process which we diagrammed in Driven to Perform in our chapter on Risk-Aware Marketing Performance Management.
- Hutch Carpenter
Great read, wasn't it?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Why do people always point to the DMV as an example of government run poorly? Would you rather that anyone be able to drive a car? Not to mention that I've never had a bad experience at a DMV.
Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF), The Bohemian Penguin, sofarsoShawn and 5 other people liked this
Alex, because they don't have good experiences there like you. And people aren't asking for there not to be a DMV, they are asking for one that is run efficiently.
- Cristo
Because DMVs (in CA cities, at least) are known for their long lines and surly employees.
- Spidra Webster
I've never had a bad experience either in CA or OR.
- Todd Hoff
California DMV system, at least in the Bay Area, has a website showing average wait for each office, so if you go when it's busy you only have yourself to blame.
- Alex Scoble
I recently went to the DMV to register my car. I had to wait about 30 seconds before going up to the window, & the employee I dealt with--a long time DMV employee--was incredibly nice & helpful.
- josh neff, Fun Dip of FF
E.g. I've made an appointment, still waited an hour, and then was told I had to go home and get different paperwork.
- Cristo
Personally, I've never had horrible experiences at a DMV. The only time I had to spend more than an hour there, the clerk was helpful and patient. God knows I needed that because I didn't know how else to go about fixing the problem I had.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
And if we are limited to only the entities we've only had good experiences with that pretty much eliminates everyone, doesn't it?
- Todd Hoff
I have never had a bad experience at the DMV, either, but I have always lived in the boonies where I don't have a long wait. I would probably hate it if I lived in a city.
- Michelle Martinez
The difference between the DMV in CA and the DOL in WA could not be more stark. I hated the DMV, I've never had a remotely bad experience with the DOL.
- Bren, Photophobe
from iPhone
Alex, I don't think I'll be using you as a guide to the SF DMV since I doubt you've ever even been there.
- Cristo
In fact, I've never had more than two people in front of me in line, and the workers have gone out of their way to be helpful. Maybe, because in WA they separate driver and vehicle licensing, the system is just more efficient.
- Bren, Photophobe
from iPhone
That's good, Chris. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Well, I did love trying to convince the Missouri DMV that I was in Texas at school and was not going to be able to come in person to get my driver's license replaced when it was stolen. They had no forms for people studying out of state. They did eventually take a out-of-state military form, but this was after days of discussion over the phone (and my dad going into the MO DMV to talk...
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- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
The only DMVs I remember going to were in LA, Mountain View, and San Francisco. They all were long waits involving bored and semi-rude workers. I find post offices to be similar, which is why I use the UPS store instead.
- Cristo
I've had some shitty experiences with rude, bored employees at fast food places, but that doesn't mean the fast food industry needs to be taken over by the government.
- josh neff, Fun Dip of FF
The DMV isn't all that bad in my experience. It's actually pretty efficient from what I've seen. Now, let's talk about the Department of Human Resources. There is a clusterfuck worth mentioning.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
I realize this is just a coded thread for whether we should have nationalized healthcare, but my comments are specifically about the DMV without expressing any particular opinion on the other topic.
- Cristo
But can you imagine it, Josh? The Triplicate Burger, having a hot dog during the Tax Break...
- Pete
Also, it's obvious from this thread that you'll have widely different experiences depending on which state and city you live in and when you've gone (I've had a driver's license since 1979).
- Cristo
Sorry, Cristo, I used some of the same words as you, but I didn't mean my comment to be targeted at you. I was commenting on how many people will point to bad experiences at the DMV as the reason why goverment-run systems are bad, without considering that corporate-run services aren't any better.
- josh neff, Fun Dip of FF
I've never had any bad DMV experiences per se, but the differences between the DMVs in the Bay Area and the ones here in Reno and Sparks are like night and day.
- Helen Sventitsky
I dislike NJ's DMV - there's always a problem of some sort. But my experience with the DMV in DC has been positive. How's that - the people in Washington turned out to be more efficient than the people outside the Beltway.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
It's an old hackneyed cliche from when they used to be run more poorly. In my experience I've had much worse service/experiences (ie retail returns) with the corporate/private sector than within government funded services including the DMV.
- sofarsoShawn
My only comment is that Cristo's first comment is dead on.
- Jason Huebel
sofarsoShawn, that's a pretty broad generalization. It seems more realistic to frame things in terms of your own experiences, rather than dismissing others.
- Cristo
Each person can have their individual experiences, I think the point most try to make is it is very inefficient to say the least.
- Spencer
I turn into my "hapless rube" mode and have always had good service. Maybe it's the smile, or the saying something nice to them...but it always ends nice.
- Satan thinks ur awesome
I will say that the DMV is better run than Comcast. The government should definitely take over cable services.
- Cristo
@Cristo Don't worry, I'm sure that is some agenda somewhere.
- Spencer
It took my wife 3 tries to get our newly traded-for car registered properly because the people at the counter gave us different answers everytime about which paperwork we needed. I called in before the first visit, wrote down everything we eneded, and then put a packet together for @CPritchett. We still had to try three times to additional papers before they finally let us go.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Spencer, what I'd really like is for the government to level the playing field for cable and internet services. The infrastructure should be owned by the government, just like the Interstate system is. The problem with the cable companies is they have a monopoly in many places, so there is no competition. Hence the suckage, because they don't need to compete by offering better customer support.
- Cristo
@cristo chill out, that's what in my experience means, some people have good ones other's bad
- sofarsoShawn
Cristo, I completely agree re: cable companies.
- josh neff, Fun Dip of FF
I didn't understand eithe r(coming from WA), until I lived in MD. Moving my driver's license took over 2 hours. I was the third person in line at the DMV when it opened that morning. There were 5 different lines I had to wait in to fill out a form and talk to a person.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I've only had one bad time at the DMV. Now, it's in-and-out in less than 30 min. It helps they have wait times on the website and have moved so much stuff online.
- Anika
I may be buying a used car, and this thread prompted me to look up what I need to do in DC. <sob> I don't understand... I think their website is just not very good... a case of too much of the wrong information
- Jason
Jason, a friend recently bought a car and had it registered in DC. It didn't seem to be too much trouble. I suppose it mostly depends on whether you're buying it from a dealer or an individual.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
An individual, it's already tagged in DC and I can't tell if the tags transfer with the title or not? Also, it says to retitle the car in the new owners name and 15 days later you get it in the mail, then come back to register???? So I was confused and if the car is untagged while you wait, or you get temp plates? I did find that the inspection sticker stays with the car, so that's good.
- Jason
Because the DMV is one of the few government institutions that almost every person in the U.S. deals with on a personal level. Sure, we all deal with the IRS, but that's a faceless group (and it gets its fair share of derision, obviously, as well). When dealing with the DMV, we all deal with individuals, so there's a much larger base of people that have experience from which to pull negative comments.
- Curtiss Grymala
The bay area wait times are a lie, no matter when you go, you will have to wait for no reason. I always get an appointment and have never made it out in less than an hour. Wouldn't be so bad, if the employees acted like they at least cared. The computers that they use have to be from the 80's. It's like Calif. forgot about them and never upgraded.
- Davis Freeberg
I've never had to wait more than 10 min. at the local (Gilroy, CA) DMV office.
- Glen Campbell
That's not a bad idea, except the last time I visited Gilroy I got a speeding ticket.
- Davis Freeberg
Question for GEEKS - Is there a way to REMOTELY cut off access to the internet in the entire house? [Background - I have 2 rebellious teens that want to do nothing but gaming].
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You could get a router that supports remote login and control it that way. WRT54G with an open source firmware would do it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Alternately I think most routers have some sort of built-in web-based external admin option. If you set up a list of allowed/disallowed MAC addresses then you could toggle the Xbox (or whatever) on/off at will.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Agreed. Logging in to a routers admin via the web would be the easiest way. Linksys router firmware has parental type options available.
- Spencer
If the kids are really rebellious they'll soon figure out they can do a hard reset on the router to bypass you though. Press and hold the little plastic button on the back for five seconds. That's a bit of a scorched earth retaliation on their part though - there's no way they'd be able to hide that other than feigned ignorance.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'll bet Alex Scoble would have a good answer to this - he's big on console gaming and on network penetration IIRC.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
There are things like this for TV: http://www.familysafemedia.com/token_t..., maybe they have them for games too?
- Todd Hoff
Non-geek answer: take it away.
- The Archangel ωαřмaiden
Yeah, the best way that I can think of would be to enable external management of your router, but this also opens you up to increased risks as anyone on the internet can now attempt to take control of your router. But it's usually a feature that you have to turn on while at home. You can't do it remotely the first time.
- Alex Scoble
When you leave the house, take your router with you.
- sofarsoShawn
sofar++
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
If they're dedicated, they could always just drop their own router in. To really lock things down you'd literally have to lock things down, i.e. put the router in a locked cabinet, and secure the cable run upstream of the router.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd actually take the primary connection device if you want to prevent them from accessing the internet all day. Cable modem or whatever router,modem, etc. is provided by your service. Much harder to replace. :)
- Alex Scoble
And of course none of this helps you if you have a neighbor near you with an unprotected or poorly protected wireless router.
- Alex Scoble
Some sort of active jamming device, perhaps, Alex?
- Ken Sheppardson
Wi-fi-blocking paint? https://friendfeed.com/logical...
- LogEx
LogEx, wow.
- Micah Wittman
pull the plug
- VAL D.
Sssshhh... my oldest one gets on FriendFeed sometimes and knows how to do stuff with routers... :-| - but usually it's not him that's as much trouble (although he is right now) - it's the 16-yr old who is the worst and with him I try to avoid doing something physical like pulling the plug (I've done that before) because he can spin out of control and start breaking things in the house. :-|
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Even with all this done, couldn't they just connect to another open connection in the vicinity or crack a protected one?
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
It worries me that he is violent. :( Good luck
- Dragon Goldmaple
Your post is public as is your account. He could be reading this as we speak...
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
One of our neighbors has an internet connection that even we can access without a password or anything (although it's a weak signal)... I was thinking along the lines of cutting off the power that goes to the router..
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Well, if there are others routers around, it's kind of futile. If it's a laptop mehbe take computer away or power cord for desktop? Srsly though, some kind of agreement or discipline is best
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
Maxamad: He's sleeping right now... Plus, even if he does read it, he might get a clue the trouble he causes when he participates or assists in his 16-yr old brother's behaviors...
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
How about simple port blocking???Block everything except port 80. Or you could stick in a meter and have then pay by the megabyte. :)
- Roberto Bonini
Use the internet for something intensive yourself? If you eg torrent old films to watch (find something legal carefully) then you can pick when you're going to set that going & it'll make online gaming rather painful due to lag. Definitely recommend trying to negotiate some 'gaming times' first though - it may make them happier if they get some input & you could always use the...
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- immaterial
Maxamad - I've taken away the powercord and when I do something physical like that he can escalate out of control & I try to avoid that because the dad's out of town most of the time working. If the dad reacts too strongly, they run away. It truly is a lose/lose situation.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Maybe some time limits... during certain hours only, or for certain durations per day. Many routers have that capability. But again, you are at the mercy of alternative connections (wi-fi) or factory-reset of the router.
- LogEx
immaterial - the 16-yr old does not follow any rules or respect parental authority.. I'm going to have to activate the state "juvenile outside of control" laws on him before he turns 17.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
immaterial - I like the torrent film idea, but if there's a lag in the internet or the router has problems, he has taken the router before and thrown it across the room & broke it. :-|
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Is there a specific game they're playing? If you disabled it would they start playing something else or give up?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Well it sounds like he is going to get physical no matter what you do.
- Dragon Goldmaple
Daniel - yes, the specific game is Gild Wars - the 16 yr. old is addicted to it.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I'd definitely make him replace it himself if he did that (or just deny access completely), although I can get rather passive-aggressive. It just doesn't sound like acceptable behaviour, but if he is actually scaring you that's probably worse & more important to sort out than the gaming addiction. Do you have neighbours who could help?
- immaterial
Yeah, it sounds like you have a problem that isn't going to be solved through technical methods.
- Alex Scoble
Yup.
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
If he physically gets out of control, have you considered calling the police and having him sent to juvie? I know that seems harsh, but it sounds like it really might be time for some drastic action.
- Jill is sugar free
i am apparently smarter than the guy working at radio shack. he says that windows mobile is the same as android. i wanted to scream.
Greg, rowlikeagirl, hecho en eu, Judah Richardson and 25 other people liked this
Maybe he got his training working at Fry's!
- Jeff P. Henderson
gah, I spent like 15 minutes trying to explain to him that WinMo isn't the same as Android. And then he was like, "I got the first Android phone!" And he whips out a HTC Diamond, which is powered by, you guessed it, Windows Mobile. Seriously, I wish they had internet access there so that I could prove to him how stupid he was.
- Tamar Weinberg
I probably would have freaked and responded, "Windows Mobile IS NOT the same as Android," in a shocked voice
- Shevonne
was this in the bronx?
- Allen Stern
Yes.
- Tamar Weinberg
Shevonne - I did. Four times. I kept saying "it's not the same, it's not the same," and he was like "yes it is!!!!" And I was like ... uh, no.
- Tamar Weinberg
ROFL...this is incredible.
- Alex Scoble
He talked for about 15 minutes afterward, and I couldn't bear to listen so I just nodded my head and silently agreed to everything he said.
- Tamar Weinberg
You should have called up Cristo on the phone and had him talk to the sales guy.
- Rochelle
LOL I was just having fun seeing how dumb they were
- Tamar Weinberg
I once pissed off a guy in Radio Shack when I told him that his bullshit drivel about $30 HDMI cables being any better than the $15 HDMI cables wasn't true.
- EricaJoy
welcome to my life about 5 years ago when i used to work in retail as a "technology" associate. the people they hired after me were dumb as rocks but they could sell, and that's all that mattered. I was disgusted at what they didn't know
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
I have a feeling that the guy I dealt with today would not be able to sell me any drivel at all. It was that bad. He even showed me his HTC Diamond and said it was the first phone with Android on it. Windows Android. (It has Windows Mobile 6.1.)
- Tamar Weinberg
So did you get the new Windows Droid or not?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I think this is the problem with too many choices in technology, it's up to the companies to train the salespeople, it's up to the salespeople to inform the customer. There used to be reputable retail stores you could go to and feel like you got an honest salesperson who was there to actually help you. That's gone today, died out about 10 years ago. I saw the change when I worked in...
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- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
from IM
So the Windows Droid looks something like this right? http://bit.ly/4qIiDB
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
haha I wasn't really shopping for a phone. I wanted to see the various options and possibly try out the Droid.
- Tamar Weinberg
I just facepalmed myself so hard I gave myself a concussion.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
The people at Radio Shack don't always know what they're talking about. One guy told me that they didn't carry the newer version of my phone even though it was *right there*.
- Anika
I used to work in computer retail. You have no idea how clueless they are, and Radio Shack is just a place to rack up cell phone spiffs. No need to know anything.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
from iPhone
I would have probably given up on convincing him, way before you did.
- Amit Morson
I thought everyone was smarter than the guys working at Radio Shack.
- Steven Summers
Seriously, Tamar? Geez. LOL!
- Steven Perez
Re: BREAKING: EA Acquires Facebook Game Maker Playfish For Up to $400 Million - http://mashable.com/2009...
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"This is shaping up to be the month from hell for Zynga. First TechCrunch rips them with last week's corrupt advertising exposé, then a highly polished and experienced competitor sells out to gaming borg EA. Look for EA to hit Zynga head-on within 12 months."
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Huge huge news in social gaming. Huge.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
No Doubt sues Activision over use in Band Hero game -- latimes.com - http://www.latimes.com/busines...
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"Rock band No Doubt has filed a real-world lawsuit over its virtual role in the just-released Band Hero edition of the Guitar Hero video game series, contending that the game has "transformed No Doubt band members into a virtual karaoke circus act," singing dozens of songs the group neither wrote, popularized nor approved for use in the game."
- Anika
from Bookmarklet
Funny, you know...since Gwen Stefani has made a solo career singing songs she didn't write or popularize.
- Anika
Didn't they do the same thing to Kurt Cobain?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Did they? I don't know. It's been my understanding that in these Hero games, they use the avatars for different songs. I'd be surprised if that's not in the contract.
- Anika
Yeah Rah, Courtney Love was saying the exact same thing a month ago. I can't imagine the contracts didn't specify the "your avatar will sing other peoples' songs" aspect of the games. This makes Love+Stefani+Grohl all look silly IMO.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Re: BREAKING: EA Acquires Facebook Game Maker Playfish For Up to $400 Million - http://mashable.com/2009...
"So far they generate revenue through microtransactions (pay us $1 for a new item or a guaranteed win in your next turn) and through sidebar ads. There are also merchandising opportunities both ways if you either create a game that people want to buy products for or bring in an existing game from a larger brand in exchange for a fee."
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Re: BREAKING: EA Acquires Facebook Game Maker Playfish For Up to $400 Million - http://mashable.com/2009...
"I agree with your assessment. Playfish makes good social games, Zynga has been making clones and skinner boxes jampacked with microtransactions and weird advertising. Playfish's talent plus EA's resources is a huge nightmare for Zynga. With any luck Zynga will reinvent themselves as a kinder, gentler business."
- Daniel J. Pritchett
These graphics were the bomb back in the day, kid!
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I used to try to stab April.
- Anika
She totally had it coming, why couldn't she just stay out of trouble?
- Joe Pierce
That game was teh awesome!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Now, I'm going to have to clear some room on the Xbox. I think I saw a TMNT demo for the old game a couple of weeks ago.
- Anika
You can get the full game on XBox live, it is still teh awesome! ...Now if only they would get the X-men and Simpsons 4-player arcade games on there.
- Joe Pierce
Is it free? I only have like 160 credits. :( I want to see N.A.R.C. and 1942. I loved playing those games too.
- Anika
I can't remember how much it was, I made my friend buy it so I could save my precious, precious, credits for something else. 1942 and N.A.R.C. would rock too. Contra is still pretty sweet too.
- Joe Pierce
I think can play this on my dreamcast - I've got an NES emulator for it and have all the games.
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
Is that the NES or arcade one?
- Matt Mastracci
This is the arcade one, I hated the original NES game, that swimming level was poo.
- Joe Pierce
I think I found it in my MAME collection from way back - just have to see if the ROM is still good with the latest MAME. Amazing that a game like that could fit under 2MB.
- Matt Mastracci
TMNT 4 for SNES is a good emulator ROM target if you want the TMNT arcade experience right away on the computer.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
that vase on the table behind Donatello looks kind of bong-like
- Joe Pierce
The lag from Twitter to FriendFeed is absurd. FriendFeed feels more like a wake every day. I know I'm in serious mourning. I'd say I'm somewhere between anger and bargaining. Just let me live long enough to see Facebook rot in hell.
Steven Perez, Eric Logan, VAL D. and 4 other people liked this
Agreed, It's pretty bad lately...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I don't really see what your'e talking about. They're different issues; Twitter has just stopped releasing the realtime tweetstream to FriendFeed.
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
... which makes FF that much less useful and turns off a few more users.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yes, and why would Twitter do that?
- Kevin Gamble
It is slowly dieing, but FB is not the antichrist or anything. People really make it seem more bad than it really is. I like to think of it as the next evolution of FF.
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
Maxamad-- How do you get your stuff out of FB?
- Kevin Gamble
Maxamad-- Show me the feeds.
- Kevin Gamble
Paul recently stated (less than 24 hrs ago) that "Twitter shut off the firehose, but made available a replacement API called birddog. We're about ready to switch that on (which will restore realtime Twitter updates), but are waiting on some final approvals from legal. I'm hoping it will all be resolved this week." http://friendfeed.com/stevegi...
- Micah Wittman
Micah-- W00T!
- Kevin Gamble
Indeed :)
- Micah Wittman
AllHipHop.com Daily News - : P.Miller Speaks on New Network BBTV - http://allhiphop.com/stories...
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"“You look at The Cosby Show and that was funny and entertaining but also educational and uplifting. It sent a message that probably sparked a lot of black doctors and lawyers now. That's what I want to offer with BBTV. It's going to show people where the future is going because a lot of us don't want to die gangbangers in the hood. Some of us do want to get older and be around to raise their kids.”"
- tiffany
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“[The biggest challenge is] to be able to make a diverse product and knowing that you need something that the churches and other cultures can feel good about so you don't just stereotype your product to where it's just all African Americans,” Miller stated. “To me, Hip-Hop is all cultures now, but it's also being able to service the corporations and make good shows that sponsors want to...
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- tiffany
yes, that's p. miller as in Master P of "How Ya Do Dat" fame: http://www.youtube.com/watch... (confession: this is one of my favorite dirty south tracks.)
- tiffany
Well, in his defense, he's always been a bit of a businessman. Not surprised to see him transition, cause hip hop as an artist is a young man's game.
- Derrick
I know him through work, and this is one of the most humble, focused and genuine people I've ever met. I wish him good luck.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
i'm not knocking his businessman ways. that's what i respect most about him. i'm just tripping because he went from making rather gully hip-hop to wanting to be a vehicle for positive, anti-stereotypical TV programming. the irony is making my head hurt.
- tiffany
Is it just me or are there a number of Master P affiliated artists who are incarcerated? Or is that just hip hop in general? I can't keep up anymore.
- Derrick
I love the idea of Master P paying homage to the Cosby Show. I hope his business works well.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
David Byrne called and he wants his suit back.
- Steve is older than ever
c-murder, kane & abel, and mystikal. that's 3. that's more than diddy :-) ...EDIT: 3 acts 4 people.
- tiffany
Methinks that things change when you've got a college age son who you'd rather see with a doctorate instead of on a docket.
- Jason Toney
I love this conversation string. Win.
- Cheryl
YouTube: Cat fighting gets ugly during BYU vs. New Mexico women's soccer match - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Don't mess with Elizabeth Lambert.
- Bill Sodeman
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Video is also at http://espn.go.com/video...
- Bill Sodeman
That scared the crap out of me. She has a future as a prison guard.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
That chick is vicious.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
She's been suspended indefinitely by UNM: http://www.golobos.com/sports...
- Bill Sodeman
Man. I just rewatched the ESPN video and the other girls clearly instigated it in every case where Lambert did something rough. Escalation is probably a bad idea though.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Sweet, found a live stream of the Bama/LSU game from WZRR, listening on my phone now!
Took some doing to find one that I could stream to my phone but here we are
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Share your wardrobe staples.
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List the clothing items you can be spotted in most of the time. - today's Plinky question: http://www.plinky.com/prompts...
- Kol Tregaskes
They are mine! :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Dockers and polo shirt
- Alex Scoble
black cross-trainers, black cotton waffle-knit henley, black cotton chinos, black wool socks from Denmark... i should be a friggin' stage hand.
- Joe Silence is not dead
dark wash jeans, black ballet flats, solid tee shirt, scowl.
- Sarah is Novembery
Jeans, tshirt, sneakers/boots/Birks
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Brown leather lace-up rubber-soled shoes, black socks, target boxers, brown belt, khaki pants, polo shirt, black wireframe glasses, white gold wedding band, midsize hearing aids.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Banana Republic, Jane Ferrar, or Express usually. Or whatever random other clothes they sell at Macy's and JC Penney. East-West Tradejourneys jeans or usually or X10.
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
jeans. everything else changes.
- Jim Hearts FF
Hoodies, I am almost always in a hoodie.
- Sarah Peterman
Dickies shorts. :)
- Beau "Slick Foot" Liening
from iPhone
Cravat, smoking jacket, shirt w/French cuffs, cummerbund, and stretch knit pants.
- Glen Campbell
Jeans, tshirts, flipflops or flats. If it's winter, a hoodie with sleeves long enough to pull over my hands
- Tamara
Unrelieve'd Black. Usually a skirt, tights, flat shoes and a jersey or sweater. Slightly funky jewelry. Some kind of hat.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Sweats. This IS Reno/Sparks, after all.
- Helen Sventitsky
I'm not sure if this crossed Mark Zuckerberg's mind, but Facebook can become the largest distributed computing project to provide scientists cures for disease, such as Alzheimer's, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many cancers.
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and find aliens. don't forget the aliens.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Explain.
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
I honnestly don't think so, AJ.
- directeur
You can ask users to install a bit of software to share cpu process that runs in the background. And while they waste their time on Facebook it can act like seti.
- AJ Batac
Why not directeur?
- AJ Batac
AJ, well, I just suppose that their infrastructure (I'm sure it's big) isn't the biggest. And they'd need more than database and web servers for the tasks you're talking about. Facebook is nothing compared to the whole Internet.
- directeur
Maybe not the largest but "one" of the largest. It can help.
- AJ Batac
I'm sure if 10% of those 400M users install that, it will be a big help.
- AJ Batac
I think Josh Haley is a cool guy, eh kills aleins and doesn't afraid of anything.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
directeur, my understanding is, he's not talking about Facebook's own infrastructure but it's user base.
- Ozgur Demir
AJ, ah! got it! You mean install an app on the client's machine and use its resources?
- directeur
Ozgur's right. Yes, directeur.
- AJ Batac
Sounds like Boinc: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ Just needs a friendly Facebook installer. :)
- Matt Mastracci
Yeah, Matt! And then, IMVHO, google is more suited for this.
- directeur
Jumbo delivery: Pregnant elephant practices her maternity exercises | Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
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"Like any expectant mother, Panang the elephant wants the very best for her baby, which is evident as she carefully performs her maternity exercises. Guided by her minder Andi Fries, the 20-year-old elephant did a series of stretches in her pen at the Tierpark Hellabrunn Zoo in Munich. Panang, who is nearing the end of her two-year gestation period, is due to give birth this month or next."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
Two years of gestation? That's amazing.
- Derrick
Oh, man - just imagine....two years. I'm breaking out in a sweat just thinking about it.
- Renee Hendricks
Best of luck to her! The Memphis Zoo had a baby elephant earlier this year after years of trying and we lost her :/
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Adorable! It looks like she's doing mama yoga. ; )
- Fossil Huntress
'Phants rule.
- Roger Benningfield
OH EM GEE, I feel like an elephant right now! I'm due Nov 16th... Where's my handler!??? Also, Elephants do rule!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
(X_X) Prego for 2 years! She's probably like, "C'mon baby, already!"
- rowlikeagirl, hecho en eu
Ok Friendfeeders, I've started a baby pool for Panang: http://bebepool.com/panang <--come join the fun :)
- Micah Wittman
Awww those pics have a powerful de-crankifying effect. :D
- Lo
What You Do When Server Warns You Plate is “Very Hot” « GraphJam: Music and Pop Culture in Charts and Graphs. Let us explain them. - http://graphjam.com/2009...
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touch it, TOUCH IT!
- chaz2b
yep
- Mike Nencetti
I was a waiter for a few months ten years ago, I can totally take any-OWW!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I don't do this any more, and I don't think I have since burning my fingers on an extremely hot glass bottle many years ago. (It'd been in a small bonfire for hours... apparently glass that's melted down and yet is not glowing can still be very very hot.)
- Andrew C
Anyone out there have thoughts/experiences on the GRE General Test? Paper based vs computer based? Thanks.
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I know that I chose the graduate program that I applied to because it didn't require I take the GRE. :P
- Rochelle
Ha! Rochelle, that's what I did with art/film school. Not really an option for me now, though should I decide to go back to school. D'oh!
- Derrick
I took the computer-based, back in 2003. It was relatively painless, but I'm also good at standardized tests. The computer-based one varies the difficulty of the questions based on how well you're doing (you get one right, the next one is harder; you get one wrong, the next one is easier), but you also can't go back to any that you skipped, the way you can on the paper-based. I...
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- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
there's a paper option? i took the computer-based one about 3 or 4 years ago and it was painful. taking the GRE was my own personal bit of hell to tell the truth. i will say this: the computer based option was an all black-white-gray screened affair. by then end of it, i had eyestrain and a slight headache. of course that could also have been because my brain gears were starting to smoke after seeing math formulas that i learned and forgot 10 years before.
- tiffany
I got the score I needed by the skin of my teeth because I thought that I was smart enough to do the math bit without studying. No. There was no paper option when I took mine.
- Baroness Von Cut-A-Bitch
Yeah, is there actually a paper-based anymore? I thought when I took mine they were phasing out the paper version.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Oh looks that way, Jandy. "Paper-based General Test administrations are offered in areas where computer-based testing is not available." Which means not a problem in LA.
- Derrick
I couldn't take the paper-based test here in Seattle. And the testing centre was wicked far away, too. I think you can only really do that one out of the country. The computer-based option was painful and there was actually a study done that said that men tend to perform better on it than women because they are more adept to processing in a linear fashion whereas women tend to take tests by jumping back and forth between questions.
- joey
I took the paper version, but that was in 1995.
- Trish R
I've never taken the paper version. The computer version was great for me, because if you get done with a section early you can move on to the next section without waiting for formal time to end like you would in a room with others where you're all taking the paper version. Plus, you get your scores when your done. I haven't taken it since the writing portion was added - I got to take the fun logic-problems section version.
- Katy S
Practice. It's not about how smart you are, it's about how well you take the GRE test, and the way to get good at that is by taking practice tests. It has been a while for me, but I have always like the Princeton Review test-prep books (never taken a class from them, just the books).
- Steve is older than ever
Steve's right. I went to a prep class the school offered for the GRE and the GMAT (I took both because I'm a masochist).
- Trish R
Whatever you do, just don't stress out about it and make sure you are well-rested and not hungry at the time you take it. Having said that, the last time I took it I was having allergy problems. I had hives all up and down my arms and was itching like crazy while trying to speed through the test to get it over with. I still did fine.
- Katy S
I think there's no paper version any more. Also, what steve said.
- lris
Steve is right. I had 0 preparation and I regret that. I could have scored much better. Also, Katy has great advice. I spent hours bussing to the location in the middle of nowhere and was completely stressing out about how I was going to get back during my test. It was awful.
- joey
(1) I took it back when it was 800 Math, 800 Verbal, and 5 or 6 writing. I think it's 800 of each now, right? My quick takeaways: Scoring near 800 was much more common on the math test than on the verbal test - possibly because it's mostly high school math and people going to grad school for mathy things are beyond that. In other words a perfect score in math was only 98th percentile while 98th percentile on verbal was somewhere in the 600s.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yes, agreed on stress. Ideally you will not be tired and not be hungry, and instead slightly, pleasantly hyped up like "BRING ON THE PATHETIC LITTLE TEST!"
- Steve is older than ever
(2) The GRE ca. 2003 was *highly* gameable. I got a Barron's test prep book from my then fiancee and read it cover to cover. The math concepts: Learn them all - it's mostly high school math and they WILL be on the test. The verbal section - it's crammed full of word lists and while you'd think the English language is too big for a word bank to help you out on a test *tons* of the words on my test were right out of that book. Learn them.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
(3) The writing section (ca. 2003) is quite formulaic. The College Board published writing samples and the scores they were given. I read them all and identified the patterns inherent in top-score essays. It turned out that what they thought was an optimally structured persuasive essay didn't really mesh with my natural writing style at the time but I managed to fake it anyway. Learn...
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- Daniel J. Pritchett
(4) Learning the word banks, math concepts, and writing style guidelines is only half the battle. The 2003 GRE was a computer based test with some quirks to the way its questions were presented. The scoring algorithm as I read about it was also weird (i.e. getting early questions wrong could branch you off to a point where you'd never even get asked the hard questions that earn you a...
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- Daniel J. Pritchett
Lot of good stuff in this thread. I'm just kind of flirting with the idea of going back to school and there's still a lot to think about, but the GRE part is unavoidable and certain. Will take all of the pointers and keep em in my pocket.
- Derrick
+1 Jandy about onscreen editing and the joy of immediate scores. I found that I was able to write a much better essay given a rudimentary word processor. I'd have done much less with paper essays.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
SEC fines Meyer $30,000 for criticizing officials http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...
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Urban Meyer of Florida became the first coach to be disciplined under the Southeastern Conference's new policy regarding criticizing officials. The league fined Meyer $30,000 on Friday, two days after he said referees missed a late hit against quarterback Tim Tebow in No. 1 Florida's 41-17 win against Georgia. Meyer sent video of the play to the SEC office, but his mistake was telling reporters refs missed the call. Last week, the SEC changed its policy about coaches publicly criticizing officials, making the punishment either a fine or a suspension and doing away with reprimands. The change came after Tennessee's Lane Kiffin, Mississippi State's Dan Mullen and Arkansas' Bobby Petrino were reprimanded after they publicly questioned officiating.
- Alan Simpson
Maybe instead of more punishment for the coaches who criticize the officials, they should try doing something to make the officiating better
- Alan Simpson
I totally agree with making the officiating better. There is a reason the coaches are critical and to cover the problem up isn't going to fix it.
- Kenton
He makes $4M a year. Criticizing officials is a winning strategy if it gets him into the title game. IIRC he advocated his way into the 2006 title game, didn't he?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Daniel - he advocated just as much as the rest of the coaches / teams who thought they should play in the NC game.
- JA Castillo
As long as they're not suspended, fired, or fined upwards of $100k I think public arguing is a winning strategy.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Dear Ford Motor Company - how can someone have 7+ years experience in "Social and Emerging Media". Youtube (one of the sites mentioned) is only 4 years old.
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My dialup BBS experience in 7th grade was emerging and social... and there were door games which means pretty pictures (that's media!). That should give me... *ponder* 27 years experience :D
- Michael W. May
I've been blogging since 2001.
- Alex Scoble
i've been complaining on the Internet since 1994.
- Joe Silence is not dead
sister?
- Joe Silence is not dead
7+ years in internet time. Though, y'know, sixdegrees.com was founded in 1997...
- Andrew C
IRC is certainly social.
- Joe Silence is not dead
I've been on usenet since 1994... well, to be honest, I haven't used it in probably 3-4 years now.
- Andrew C
I used Compact Disks when they first came out, AND I talked to my friends about them. That gives me 24 years in social and emerging media. :-)
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
I'm waiting for someone looking for experience in social media failure. After all, I am one of only a handful of people who launched blogging products in the first couple years of the decade who never made a dime. :D
- Roger Benningfield
Yolanda, I saw a job listing with exactly this kind of problem earlier today. Puts me off of the company altogether since it makes them look out of touch...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I've been online since 1992, so it's possible to have loads of experience in emerging media.
- cecily
I assume they want 7 years of traditional media experience with an ever-increasing share devoted to online and social stuff. Think about it - most of us FFers are small-scale social media whizzes but we're not actually trained or qualified as marketers or community managers or communications directors, are we?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Maybe you could claim that time spent on multiple social sites is like concurrent prison sentences?
- Greg GuitarBuster
hahahaha ++
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Spending the morning writing primitive #unix shell scripts - who'd have thought? http://pastie.org/684994
Feel free to post revisions in the comments!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I would recommend that you stuff some of the filenames into some variables. like FKAWDKAJWD/transfer.log occurs in multiple places.
- Rudolf Olah
Good call, Rudolf. I already abstracted the path and some constants to variables but that file_transfer_log happens a good 4 times.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
New work laptop delivered. First apps I install: Chrome, Launchy, Pidgin, Putty, Foxit, VirtualBox - now trying to find missing Notes bkmrks
How times have changed! Wonder how long I'll make it before I need to use Firefox?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Beachy watercolors from @CPritchett's new Etsy shop - http://www.etsy.com/shop...
Chandler's started a new series of blue crabs based on her experiences growing up on the gulf coast.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from Bookmarklet
Spending the morning writing primitive #unix shell scripts - who'd have thought? http://pastie.org/684994
Feel free to post revisions in the comments!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
True Blood: Nelsan Ellis Q&A - Den of Geek - http://www.denofgeek.com/televis...
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"Speaking of Alexander Skarsgård, will we actually ever see any of Lafayette's dreams with Eric? [Laughs] I think I heard Alan Ball say there might be a scene or two... Why, do you want to see that? You wanna see me and Alex getting it on? [plenty of slash-fic screams/applause from the audience]"
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
"Has the show caused much controversy in the American South? I think so. We've been banned in Shreveport, Louisiana, from shooting in certain places, because they're morally against the message the show gives. So, there are some places in the South where I think there's some controversy. Who are your friends on the set, and who would you like to work with again? I'm probably the closest...
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- RAPatton
"How did you come up with the Lafayette character? It was a collaboration. We all threw in some ideas. The scarf thing, is 'cause my momma used to wear a lot of scarves. I think there's some Prince influence in there. We did research, went to a whole lot of gay clubs, we'd go down on the strip, so we just came up with it. We also threw in some ideas into this stew of his wardrobe. Especially his head-wraps."
- RAPatton
Hooray for Prince influences.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I loved the AIDS Burger scene. Nelsan Ellis is great!
- Jess Lee
He has been a great character for the audience and showcase for Nelsan Ellis's skill
- RAPatton
And has put the idea in my head of exactly what I want for Christmas. O_o
- Derrick
A scarf?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
NO CAPES.
- Derrick
YES. YES IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY. *cough*
- cecily
Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed - ABC News - http://abcnews.go.com/Politic...
"The tide of extending marriage rights to same-sex couples -- which has swept across New England in recent months -- has stopped at Maine. Voters rejected a state law Tuesday that would have allowed same-sex couples to wed. The repeal comes just six months after the measure was passed by the Maine legislature and signed by the Democratic Gov. John Baldacci. Maine would have been the sixth state in the country to allow gay and lesbian couples to marry, but instead becomes the 31st state to oppose the unions in a popular vote."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Was this a prop 8 sorta thing with squillions of dollars coming in from other states to beef up the lobbies on either side of the issue?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
It's just kinda weird when people are all "woo state's rights, let's not worry about this on a national level" and then the per-state campaigns are all managed by national entities.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
A mob is also democratic. Just look at Bosnia.
- Terris Linenbach
Alright, I'm going to open up a can of worms here, so I'm sorry for the drama in advance...
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*braces*
- Joe Silence is not dead
*twitches*
- Derrick
What actor do you think is the best at playing both good guys AND bad guys? For the purpose of discussion, "good" guy can mean "funny" as well, as long as it's a definite foil to the evil parts they've played.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Gary Oldman
- Mary Carmen
*grabs a knife and fork*
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
best? i dunno. i rate Gene Hackman pretty highly. but i dunno who the best is.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Sam Neill
- The Archangel ωαřмaiden
Oh, I was preparing for a "I'M LEAVING FF" or some big ranty post.
- Rochelle
I'm torn, for me it's a tie between John Lithgowe and Donald Sutherland.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
no, I'M leaving FF!
- Joe Silence is not dead
Clive Owen (he should have been Bond)
- Jess
*crickets*
- Joe Silence is not dead
Anthony Hopkins
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Samuel L. Jackson ...ummm, this is a very TASTY hamburger!
- .LAG liked that
John Travolta
- Mary Carmen
thats easy..Tom Hanks. he is awesome as the good guy in Apollo 13 and as that evil dude in Forrest Gump.
- Satan thinks ur awesome
i see what you did there, Satan.
- Joe Silence is not dead
I'd have to agree with Anthony Hopkins
- Glen Campbell
Alan Rickman
- Alex Scrivener
Alan Rickman was great in Snow Cake.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Bruce Willis
- .LAG liked that
Matt Damon
- .LAG liked that
Pruitt Taylor Vince
- Rene Wirtz
I have to give a little love to Christopher Walken. But, others have mentioned some good ones!
- Katy S
+1 Alan Rickman - loved him in Blow Dry
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Rick Moranis
- Outsanity & Kate + Hate
I find it interesting that everyone we've named had been male.
- Katy S
Doh, I forgot Christopher Walken!!! Katy, he was on my original list when I first had this conversation 10 years ago... Oh, and I figured all males was because of the verbiage 'actor'. I'd have to mull it over for actresses (they don't always get as great a range of roles =/ )
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I know - women don't get the same range. I figure the word actor had something to do with people's choices, too.
- Katy S
Meryl Streep
- .LAG liked that
Kevin Bacon
- Jason Huebel
Humphrey Bogart comes to mind.
- Brian Sullivan
I second Meryl Streep
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Kathy Bates
- Iván Abrego
Jack
- Rodfather
A lot of good mentions here. Rickman would have been the first to spring to mind for me. Oldman is fantastic, though. He's absolutely protean. Kathy Bates has played both good and bad well.
- Spidra Webster
YES on Kathy Bates!!! And I agree on Streep as well.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I betcha Jane Lynch can do both.
- Spidra Webster
Angela Lansbury was pretty scary in Manchurian Candidate. Kathy Bates rocks!
- Katy S
Oh, good one, katy!
- Spidra Webster
Glenn Close, Woody Harrelson
- jcunwired
How about Kevin Spacey?
- Kenton
Someone might have to fact check for me (as I'm not really a film/TV buff): did Joan Collins ever play nice/funny? Did she do it worth a damn? If so I'd say she's up there!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Hugh Jackman. If you've never seen "The Prestige", DO EET.
- Spidra Webster
Jimmy Stewart, hands down.
- Sarah is Novembery
Harrelson was also on my original list, can't believe I forgot him! And I'd definitely agree on Spacey and Stewart...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Also, YOU CALL THIS DRAMA? :P
- Sarah is Novembery
I AM THE DRAMA LLAMA!!! And I am also ept and gruntled =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tim Roth, He's got the rough love good guy and the downright nasty bad guy in him.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
John Lithgow. He's brilliant as both the funny man and the villain.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
DAMN! I forgot the reason I had this train of thought in the first place: I saw Tim Curry in a Rocky Horror clip on TV and he's on my list.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Where have you seen Jimmy Stewart as a bad guy?
- Spidra Webster
Harrison Ford
- Louis Gray
Michael Moore
- Louis Gray
Spidra, I know Stewart played a murderer early in his career. A more established videophile might have more/better examples.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Betty White? - http://friendfeed.com/jhuebel...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is a famous example of Stewart as a bad guy. Vertigo is a great example of him as a twisted character - he's extremely sadistic at times.
- Sarah is Novembery
I can see that, MVB. Not to mention she went from streetwise trollop to naive rube one show right after the other.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I vote for Denzel Washington
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Denzel Washington. He doesn't play bad guys enough, though.
- cecily
It's been a while since I saw Liberty Valance. Guess I forgot. I'm not as big a fan of his westerns as I am of his other work. Early in his career, Stewart was actually cast as the male ingenue. He even sings in "Born to Dance". The studio didn't know what to do with him yet.
- Spidra Webster
Bette Davis
- Katy S
Glenn Close. She was so scary in Fatal Attraction.
- Rodfather
Alan Rickman
- Soup
Kevin Spacey by far, BY FAR!!!
- Jordi Soler
Alan Rickman, Glenn Close, Amanda Peet, James Stewart, Kevin Spacey, Alec Baldwin
- Helen Sventitsky
Tough call but Anthony Hopkins because you have to clarify the definition of evil and whether it is done out of wickedness or weakness. For instance, take the role Macbeth. He clearly does evil but it is out of a tragic flaw, he's aware that its wrong but can't seem to stop himself, even at the end. But you pity him because he knows and its eating him away from the inside out. But the...
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- Melanie Reed
And yet Anthony played C. S. Lewis in "The Shadowlands" a man of God and Christian apologist so far removed from Hannibel as to be in heaven away from hell. The love he showed for God and his wife as he cared for her during terminal cancer till her death was the full spectrum of the human experience of love and joy in the midst of grief
- Melanie Reed
When Hopkins plays good characters there always seems to be something lacking there. Why? His eyes: they're too smart to reflect only pure goodness. Whereas Spacey, oh my, he can play devil or saint as he chooses, although he likes to walk the line between both. Take his defining role for instance: Keyser Söze. He has you fooled right til the end into believing he's the kindest character of all. Then, suddenly, the hint of a smile...
- Jordi Soler
Jordi, I like that you caught that! There is a moment in the film "Shadowlands" where Joy has just learned that she has cancer and its incurable and she looks up at him after leaning the truth from him and says:"You're looking properly at me now. You never looked properly at me before." And its true. Hopkins does an amazing job just with his eyes at that moment.
- Melanie Reed
Richard Harris!
- Katy S
:) How did I know that you were going to pick "The Sting" Matthew. I can almost here Joplin's "Solace" in the background. But are you sure about "Quint" ?! *squints*
- Melanie Reed
@Melanie: I'll have to rewatch "Shadowlands". Must confess that I found it quite boring the first time I saw it (long time ago). But seriously, Hopkins has some issues when trying to portray ambivalent characters (take "Human Stain", for instance). On the other hand, he is perfect when he has to play evil masterminds as the one in "Fracture".
- Jordi Soler
Jordi, I recall the Human Stain and chalked that up to wanting to pay some bills or an agent somewhere. Anthony is a bit of a conundrum in the roles he takes but then again, its a business. He does seem to excel in roles calling upon his ability to play the divided soul: Magic, Guilty Conscience. And I think it is this soulful ambidexterity that allows him to go either way or in the...
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- Melanie Reed
Steven Weber
- Spidra Webster
Ian McKellen
- Kevin Pedraja
If you want to see Hopkins as a truly likable and sympathetic character, watch "The Fastest Indian". You root for him the whole time.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, I have been wanting to see that and several things kept getting in the way. (my dvd drive died) Now that I have a DVD drive back in a laptop I can reserve it from our library. Thanks for reminding me! :)
- Melanie Reed
A late entry: Robin Williams.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Cary Grant is my number one. In a close second is Brad Pitt. Johnny Depp is good, too. I also like Guy Pearce for this. Kathy Bates and Hugh Jackman are good mentions. Robin Williams is also a good pull (he's played some really disturbing bad guys).
- Curtiss Grymala
Agree, Alan Rickman, Anthony Hopkins......and most definitely Gene Hackman!
- Bonnie Foster
When was Robin Williams a bad guy?
- Parvez Halim
Robin Williams has played a villain in "Insomnia" (the American remake of a Norwegian film) and "One Hour Photo"
- Spidra Webster
I would say Deniro, but I think even his "good guy" characters are still kind of frightening and intense.
- Curtiss Grymala
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Ian McShane. Have a look at his portrayal as "swedgin" in Deadwood.
- Terry O'Fee
Tim Curry was the first that came to mind. Many other good ones mentioned, Alan Rickman is high on my list. It's also interesting how many of these people are attractive, moral ambiguity must be a turn-on... weird.
- Lo
what about Johnny Depp and John Travolta? so mainstream but pretty diverse catalogs...
- Robyn Hawk
I said Johnny Depp, and quite a few people mentioned John Travolta.
- Curtiss Grymala
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Has anyone else noticed that "Health Care Reform subtly became "Health Insurance Reform?"
Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF), Alex Scrivener, Roberto Bonini and Maxamad (Amazigh) liked this
I missed that one, creepy.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Dems suck at naming things. This is a little better.
- Todd Hoff
Inserting "Insurance" into the title is very clever wordsmithing. No one really cares about their insurance, they care about their quality of life and reasonable access to necessary medical services. This insidiously limits the discussion.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Dunno if you caught the two This American Life episodes about health care reform. Very interesting and objective shows that made me question the whole notion that the problem lies entirely with insurance carriers. There are a LOT of moving parts to the system and insurance is just one of them. I'd like to see reform focus just as much on the health care providers, who often force carriers into the behaviors that get them labeled as the bad guys in the system.
- Kevin Pedraja
I did not, Kevin. I'll look for it.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Links for you: http://www.thislife.org/Radio_E... and http://www.thislife.org/Radio_E...
- Kevin Pedraja
Thank, Kevin.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Re: Enterprise collaboration’s image problem - http://www.sharingatwork.com/2009...
"Looks like Novell is taking a stab at solving this problem with the announcement of their new "Pulse" collaboration product. http://www.novell.com/product... I wonder how they implemented it - through a browser-based clipboard grabber or through a Jing-style program that individual users have to install locally?"
- Daniel J. Pritchett
looks promising. :)
- Bicentennial (Franc)
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