"So, Google has finally bitten the bullet and launched Real-time Search. While it won’t yet show up by default when you search, you can trigger it easily. Here’s how…"
- Martin Bryant
from Bookmarklet
WTF did Lou Holtz just call Colt McCoy the leading Heisman candidate of the year? Hello? Colt was cold as ice for the first 4 or 5 games of the season. Dudes on ESPN need to skip the hookah room before getting on air, seriously.
...Heisman voters tend to remember more recent accomplishments. things done in September and October not as important at the end of the season, when more is on the line...and McCoy has been good lately. My vote, of course, is for Gerhart.
- .LAG liked that
If UF wins on Saturday and I don't see Tim Tebow on the podium in New York I might do something bad and catch 25 to life. If I disappear you know why
- LANjackal
from IM
It would be a real shame if Tebow graduated with three rings and *only* one Heisman :P
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel...not if Alabama, or Texas, or heck, even TCU has something to say about it, depending on with happens on Saturday. Do you think Florida's a lock as national champion?
- .LAG liked that
Colt McCoy struggled through the early games with some minor nagging injuries and illnesses. The sign of a champion is being able to win. And he did that despite not being 100%. Colt absolutely deserves the Heisman -- as does a couple of other players.
- Katy Barrilleaux
Gerhart deserves it. But that Tebow, boy is he a great, great man, on and off the field. Just seeing him on TV the other day cured my shingles. *pukes*
- Christopher A Carr
I'm a Bama alum and I'm hoping for us to go all the way this year. I was just poking fun at LANjackal.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I still can't believe we couldn't beat UF last year even with Harvin sidelined.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
LOL Christopher! I heard Tebow caught Bin Laden after saving some orphans caught in a fire.
- Michelle Martinez
...hahaha! I hear that people have become better people by just being in Tim Tebow's presence, his aura washes over you
- .LAG liked that
In all honesty though ... I see him as another Vince Young. His first couple years in the NFL are going to be brutal when he's no longer in an organization that all but worships him and with a religiously loyal fan base. I hope he survives them but I see a lot of INTs coming in that rookie year, especially with his slow windup and tendency to drop the ball below his waist while doing it.
- LANjackal
from IM
...this just in: all NFL rookie QBs throw lots of INTs, make lots of mistakes. can we get past this Joe Flacco/Matt Ryan statistical anomaly from last year. I don't know what pro scouts look for, I'm just a fan of the game, but Tim Tebow doesn't look like an NFL QB to me. But he is "godlike" otherwise. .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
I don't think he is one either. We'll see though
- LANjackal
from IM
I am a Gator, but I think it comes down to Gerheart & McCoy...and maybe Ingram. If Tebow has a crazy game against the Tide, he may work his way to the NY presentation, but I just don't think it's in the cards for him. Most seem to be picking McCoy based upon career accomplishment, but Gerheart has been a beast. Oh, and don't forget Suh from Nebraska...as the dark-horse!
- JA Castillo
JA... that sounds about right. I want Gerhart, but Stanford's only an 8-4 team and just barely in the Top 25 (which is a GREAT season for us, but just OK in comparison to the Floridas, Bamas and Texases), so it will probably be McCoy, especially if he puts up big stats in the Big12 champ. game. Suh is a defender, so unless the voters have seen lots of video of him, he doesn't have stats that you can look at and go "wow".
- .LAG liked that
Once Ingram turns in 5 TDs from the Wildcat this weekend the debate will be over ;)
- Daniel J. Pritchett
You might wanna revise your predictions ... downward
- LANjackal
from IM
After the games yesterday, I still think Gerhart should be in NYC; team record be damned. Ingram had a great game, so he's back in the race too. Other than those two and McCoy, there is no one else I would consider worthwhile. And yeah, Suh would be a looooong shot. What helped Woodson a few years back was his returning punts & some offensive plays. Suh did not have that luxury. Lastly,...
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- JA Castillo
:( That turkey better not hurt any TJ employees. I like that place way too much.
- Kamilah Gill
It was two regular-sized guys initially. And the dude was giving them all they could take. Then this third big TJ's employee came outside and joined in. That ended it. Police arrived shortly thereafter.
- Hutch Carpenter
The TJ employees will be lucky if they don't get fired for that.
- Dave Roth
from iPhone
Anyone else think Colt played himself out of the Heisman tonight?
- Steve
Ingram had a much more solid season. Flip a coin for Ingram vs. Gearhart IMO.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Gerheart and Ingram are much better choices than any of the QBs
- RAPatton
from iPhone
This year more than ever it seems to me that trying to pick a "best" team or player is just idiotic. Not everything can be rank ordered. Half a second more hang time on that last pass by McCoy and Texas would be "out of it". Cincinnati could be "out of it" if not for a slippery spot of grass that led to Pittsburgh missing an extra point. Of course they were never actually "in it" because they're Cincinnati. Whether Gerhart gets the Heisman is largely a function of ABC's broadcast schedule. It's all a joke.
- Ken Sheppardson
top-seeded Montana drilled Stephen F. Austin 51-0 in a Division I Quarterfinal football game on Saturday. A 10-turnover snowball started with less than two minutes into the game when Montana's Erik Stoll intercepted a Jeremy Moses pass at the Grizzly 11-yard line. The avalanche of fumbles and interceptions ended in the fourth quarter when UM's Brock Coyle intercepted backup quarterback Dalton Williams. Montana's defense forced an amazing 10 turnovers - including six on Stephen F. Austin's first seven possessions. Montana scored 37 points off of the turnovers and blanked the nation's top scoring offense, securing the program's ninth trip to the FCS semifinals.
- Steve
from Bookmarklet
Yeah, he was averaging about 50 points a game throughout the year. Tough day with 10 turnovers. I can see why this playoff system would never work at the next level. Ha.
- Steve
I want to fill one with raspberry iced tea and just walk down the street sippin' on it. Maybe throw in some overalls for good measure.
- Christopher Harley
I'm with Akiva, though I can't say it's not popular. But ya, damn, a gallon.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Pretty much, yeah. You can use it, and it's not bad, but you're selling your food and tongue short.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I grew up 90 miles from the Gulf coast and I still see plenty of Tabasco here and there. I haven't lived right on the water as a townie though - perhaps I've missed out.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
does tabasco sauce ever spoil? this might not be a bad investment.
- tiffany
For some reason, I really don't like Tabasco. It just tastes like vinegar to me. I will, however, put sriracha on just about anything.
- joey
My favorite Southern hot sauce is probably Red Rooster and/or Crystal's. That stuff is the business. I like sriracha alright, but not more than I do that stuff.
- Derrick
Hah, don't get me wrong; I'm just having a laugh here. I don't have anything against Tabasco and it's certainly prevalent down there. I was just raised on Crystal's and definitely prefer it. Hell, I'll drink Crystal's right from the bottle. (Okay, that's a lie (no it's not))
- Akiva Moskovitz
Melinda's is my favorite. Not super hot for a habanero sauce, but man is it delicious. :)
- mikepk
I'd take a gallon of the chipotle flavor. Otherwise, gimme Frank's
- ha3rvey (needs soup)
Red Hot, Ha3rvey? I'm down with that. WHY NO BODY MAKING ME NO CATFISH?
- Derrick
I know a great place for catfish, Derrick, but you'd have to get here first. Seriously: me, you, and an eating trip across the south. I got the time now!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Dang, Derrick. We totally have to hang out next time I'm out that way. DO YOU GOT ANY BREAM?
- ha3rvey (needs soup)
I know what I'm gonna be getting my wife and father for Christmas now. Thanks Derrick!
- Give 'Em DBizness
I use Tapatio and Tabasco and sriracha depending on the meal but almost always use one of them with almost everything. for ejemplo, Tabasco on loco mocos, tapatio on buffalo wings, and sriracha on stir fry.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
"The same way you should regularly put aside some of your income for taxes, regularly put aside some time to pay off your code and design debt. If you don't, you'll just be paying interest (fixing hacks) instead of paying down the principal (and moving forward)."
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from Bookmarklet
*BLOCKS BREN* You're breaking my heart brother!!! Jane's Addiction's "Nothing Shocking" was the first album I ever heard *stoned*... I will NEVER forget how it sounded, and nothing else will ever sound like that for me.
- Adrian
The next time you visit I'm envisioning a Clockwork Orange-esq re-education where in you eat In-N-Out while listening to a Jane's playlist. Of course, that will probably just back-fire and make you hungry for In-N-Out the next time you hear Jane's, and then angry that you can't have it, and dislike Jane's more.
- Tony Del Porto
Heh. You know I never liked that mess. Give me progressive art-metal, or give me funky acid jazz...
- Bren, Not Grinchy
from iPhone
Same. I've tried to like them but ended up only liking those 2 songs.
- Rodfather
Same here. Anything else from them gets me to change the radio station.
- David Cook
From io9: "Twilight fans can keep their shirts emblazoned with Robert Pattinson's face. The rest of us know that the only Team Edward worth belonging to is Team Edward James Olmos. And now you can wear your affiliation proudly."
- Mark Trapp
from Bookmarklet
"There is a myth that Lisp (and Prolog) are "special-purpose" languages, while languages such as Pascal and C are "general purpose". Actually, just the reverse is true. Pascal and C are special-purpose languages for manipulating the registers and memory of a von Neumann-style computer. The majority of their syntax is devoted to arithmetic and Boolean expressions, and while they provide some facilities for forming data structures, they have poor mechanisms for procedural abstraction or control abstraction. In addition, they are designed for the state-oriented style of programming: computing a result by changing the value of variable through assignment statements."
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from Bookmarklet
Is formatting of the text critical, beyond spacing and line breaks? Are there critical embedded media elements? If not, plain text always wins.
- LogEx
Doesn't Google docs support docx files as well?
- Brian Sullivan
.doc is a standard...95% of the electronic document world uses it. Get off my lawn. The world doesn't work the way you want it to work. You must work the way the world works. .doc FTW.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
"WAAAAA... Your not using the service I recommend this week..WAAAA"
- CW™
Microsoft thinks EVERYTHING it poops out is a "standard". sorry, not biting.
- Joe Silence is not dead
I want to know what kind of information about a wedding had to be represented in a word doc that couldn't have just been put into the message, presumably email, that contained the word doc. Are you one of those people who write your message into word, then save it and attach it to an email with the text "see this attachment for my message to you"?
- Andy Bakun
from Android
As a tech person you HAVE to be flexible and be able to handle all sorts of formats.
- CW™
Microsoft's largest monopoly is in the Office space, not the OS. You can look it up, my numbers aren't far off.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
indeed, most modern email programs let you save the body (and headers, if you want) as some kind of formatted or unformatted text file, whether RTF or DOC or TXT or whatever. no excuse for an attachment.
- Joe Silence is not dead
You guys might as well start complaining about the use of Comic Sans as a font while you are at it...Like I said...the world doesn't work how you want it to work. Complaining about it, won't change it. I think from now on I will send all my correspondence to Robert inside a Word attachment ;)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
maybe you can explain why then that supposed standard, .doc, isn't supported by the others, it even keep changing on each version of m$-office!!!
- ovigia
Why are you taking it out on him when it's the folks here who are fussing at you? hee. Feel free to communicate with me any way you wish. I got nothing but time! ;-)
- pea
Alex is right. #1 feature request from family and friends when they ask me about which computer to buy is 'It has to run Word'. Short tail vs very long tail issue.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
"You must work the way the world works" - spoken like a true conservative Luddite, uninterested in improving the world. TXT >> RTF > HTML > ODF > PDF >> Word
- LogEx
Johnny, having an interest in using Word does not at all equate to actually sending people attachments they don't want, in a format they don't want.
- LogEx
PDF is in no way shape or form better than .doc. Nor is HTML. And I'm neither a conservative nor a luddite, but pissing in the wind just gets you drenched in piss.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
And now I want to do all my friendfeed posts in .doc format
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I am sorry, but if you sent me a .doc it would be in the trash bin and I'd be complaining too. There is nothing wrong with plain text (or html if you need formatting). It's pretty much universal and can be read on any device, any OS. Maybe back in 2002 I might have felt differently, but spending a substantial amount of time using a device incapable of displaying a .doc from the latest...
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- April Russo (app103)
Really? Cause in the real world a document = a word document. This goes to Alex's point that the majority of people still use word and the .doc format. All the other suggestions mentioned here are not in the mind of the normal user.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
.rtf has the same formating techniques and is supported everywhere. Opens in Word, and pretty much any other word processing program. Was made by Microsoft as well, if that's important to you
- Fulaan, inna Hebel
Email is the only universal interpersonal computer communication protocol, and plain text is the only universal format for using in an email. Attachments put an unnecessary burden on the recipient.
- LogEx
I guess you are only sending them to "normal users". Anyone who owns Acrobat can edit your PDF unless it's locked.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, be happy I don't have to send you email on a regular basis. I'd be sending you messages in a different format every time, sending you scrambling to find a solution to enable you to read it...just to teach you a lesson.
- April Russo (app103)
Any email sent to me in which the contents are only an attachment will get trashed. If you want to have some pretty formatted thing, put it on a website and email me the link. The worst is getting an email that's a link to a website that has a link to a goddamn Word document. That is email abuse and a waste of my time.
- ǎňňǎ
The people who send me PDFs do not lock them...just sayin'.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
then the people who send you PDFs don't know wtf they're doing with Acrobat.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Who uses Acrobat? I make my PDFs using CutePDF or similar print-to-pdf tools.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
This is an argument about which tire gives the best grip and performance when really, the vast majority of people just get in their car and drive on the tires the car came with.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Johnny, I think it's more like "why are you driving a car? That's environmentally wasteful!" when most people need to drive a car to get around.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
the vast majority of people don't pay much attention to anything except their own personal pleasure and desires.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Joe, which is why Word is the dominant format... Like Internet Explorer... And Outlook Express... We care (and know) about different formats, the real world has things to do
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
you mean the real world is too lazy and stupid to try anything that isn't forced on them.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Yes, your elitist thinking is so going to win you friends at dinner parties. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
half the execs i have worked under in the IT and publishing world could barely use a computer and none could use Word or Excel. they had people for that.
- Joe Silence is not dead
I am not saying you can't use Word. Keep in mind that it is capable of easily saving in formats other than .doc.
- April Russo (app103)
I do everything in Pages because I'm a filthy Mac user. If I need to send out something that requires formatting, it goes out in PDF. If you can't deal with PDF, or if you whine about it, I probably don't want to deal with you either.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Alex, was was his suggested format for the wedding information you sent him?
- CW™
Joe, cause electricity was 10 times better. It's not just enough to be slightly better. We are talking about changing the collective consiousness of a world just coming to gripes with computers.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Where did I call anyone a name?
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Whenever I hear someone talk about not using a Microsoft product just because it's Microsoft, it makes me want to evangelize the hell out of Microsoft products and get everyone I know to use them. Sometimes spite is just damned fun.
- Akiva Moskovitz
So it's you don't like Word, that's cool. Doesn't change the point.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Very rarely have I ever had problems with Excel
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Personally, I'd stick the guest list in a .tdo file too. Of course as a Mac user you might have a hard time with that.
- April Russo (app103)
then you're either living a charmed life or don't really use it that extensively, Alex.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Joe. In my job I produce lots of formatted documents such as proformas, msds sheets and shipping documents. I send some as PDF but the majority is as the raw .doc file when working with others on them. Can't copy and paste that into the body of an email
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I use it every day for work, Joe. And you underestimate my skills at working with computers.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
@Johnny: that's a different matter. i'd use RTF in that situation. but i would go with DOC if the recipient needed it.
- Joe Silence is not dead
"too early for popcorn"? now there's a statement that could be debated! too early for the smell but not the taste. :D
- pea
@Joe - Smaller file? I just ran a test, saving a .doc file in .rtf, .odt and .docx formats. The original .doc was 126kb, the .rtf version is 291kb, the .docx is 42kb and the .odt is 32kb. How is 291kb smaller than 126, 42 or 32kb?
- Curtiss Grymala
Because of the exchange rate between Microsoft-produced and non-Microsoft-produced kilobytes?
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Curtiss, how big is the file in plain text?
- LogEx
What software did you use to run your test? Word? Try Wordpad. Much less useless junk added to the .rtf.
- April Russo (app103)
plaintext for text, html for rich content? it is a standard and tons of people can read it. though there is no reason to use only 1 file type
- Mike Chelen
HTML is horrible for editing text
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Not with a decent HTML editor. And Word can export your document as HTML.
- April Russo (app103)
The file in plain text is 36kb. I used Word to convert it to RTF, as it's not possible to readably open a .doc file in Wordpad.
- Curtiss Grymala
.odt and.docx are compressed, as far as I know
- Curtiss Grymala
Run your own test. I just ran another test and got similar results. I generated 50 paragraphs of dummy text on lipsum.com and pasted it into Wordpad first. I saved it as RTF and TXT. Then, I opened the RTF in Word and saved it as .doc, .docx and .odt
- Curtiss Grymala
Ah, OK, compression makes sense, though I still argue that compression and formatting should be avoided unles they are critical to the content. I save 140 characters of text in UTF-8 with no BOM and the file is 140 bytes. I can email that text, SMS it, Tweet it, IM it, read it in any browser, etc.
- LogEx
I'm certainly not saying Word is the be-all, end-all, but it does work well and it is fairly universal. If someone doesn't have Word, they can easily open a Word doc in Word Viewer (free), OpenOffice or even in GoogleDocs if they so choose. Word simply works, and it works well. With GoogleDocs, whenever I change the formatting on one thing, it always ends up screwing up the formatting on something else. IMHO, even GoogleDocs can't match the comments and tracked changes features in Word.
- Curtiss Grymala
Sorry, but unless you save it in a much older Word format, all of the above are not options on my pda.
- April Russo (app103)
Could have been worse. You could have saved it in an old WordPerfect format.
- Steven Perez
One of my co-workers still insists on WordPerfect. It's a total pain to deal with.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
And there is another reason not to use .doc. 20 years from now you may not be able to open it.
- April Russo (app103)
Logan - I'd be willing to bet that, if April's PDA can't open a Word 97-2003 document, it probably can't open an ODT file, either.
- Curtiss Grymala
April - We have no idea what file formats will still exist or be usable in 20 years. That's an odd reason not to use a particular format, especially one as well-supported as Word
- Curtiss Grymala
When I was working at the law firm in Palo Alto (in 2005), there was one court in San Diego (I believe) that required all legal documents be sent in Word Perfect format
- Alex Scoble
from IM
almost 150 comments and still nobody has said it........'Word Up!'
- Morgan Haley
Alex - at least they didn't insist on WordStar format
- Curtiss Grymala
Ahh, WordStar...that brings back fond memories...first word processor app I ever used.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Mine, too, Alex. We used WordStar first, then moved up to WordPerfect when we got Windows 3.
- Curtiss Grymala
Alex, most of the world prays to a sky daddy. ...doesn't make it right. :)
- Edward Zwart
Curtis: It's something to think about when saving documents, especially for archivists, if you think there could even be a remote possibility that it may be important enough that you'd want to open it at some point in the distant future. My guess is that plain text would still be usable at that time. The historians of the future are going to have a hell of a time with our digital stuff. Not like carvings on stone or print on paper.
- April Russo (app103)
No, but when most of the world prays to a sky daddy, you are probably better off not making fun of said daddy unless you want to be run out of town or worse.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I don't believe you can quantify your statement "most of the world still works in Word."
- Glen Mistletoe
I believe that I already did, Glen
- Alex Scoble
from IM
If you really want your words to last, try nickel plates with high-resolution analog ion-beam engraving [http://www.norsam.com/hdroset...] and hope that future generations will be able to read the language you wrote it in.
- LogEx
I wish I still had a copy of Office 2000. I'd send you a .doc that would make you tear your hair out trying to view the message.
- April Russo (app103)
Heh, too bad you don't, because I'd take that challenge too
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I have a rather old application that only runs on Windows XP or older, that integrates with Office 2000, that allowed me to attach sticky notes to Office documents, viewable only by people that also have the same version of the same discontinued application installed, along with Office 2000. It works with no other version of Office.
- April Russo (app103)
Maybe I haven't said this often enough, Alex, but I think I love you. My Wednesday has just taken a turn for the better after reading this thread :D
- WorldofHiglet
If Robert uses Gmail, he could just open the Word attachment directly in GoogleDocs.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Wow, this was a long (and hilarious) thread. I honestly can't believe that anyone is taking the stance (and apparently believing it) that .doc isn't the standard word processing format for most of the electronic document world. Fight the good fight, Alex.
- Chieze Okoye
Yes, but that would require him to do extra work, Jandy. He can't even be bothered to use friendfeed anymore. ;)
- Alex Scoble
From what I understand Robert lives on his phone now, and if he can't open it on his phone it pretty much is useless to him.
- April Russo (app103)
I just knew that it would eventually come to this! Families torn apart by a difference in document file format conventions!
- Mark Jepsen
He lives on his phone? Is that like being sent off to the phantom zone like General Zod?
- Alex Scoble
Wait a second, Droid doesn't have a Word Doc viewer?
- Chieze Okoye
I know I've said this before, Alex, but sometimes your brother's uber-nerdiness slays me.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Chieze - If that's the case, that would be the bigger news out of this thread. That would be absolutely insane
- Curtiss Grymala
I've toyed with the idea of using Open Doc and then converting for clients, but am always worried about the hassles of formatting, footnotes, etc. Plus, I think only Word has Grammar check (hate it but need it). Anyway, my recent contracts with a publisher specify "IBM compatible" documents. I think they mean .doc. So I comply and don't piss in the wind. I'm happy to have Alex make me feel less ashamed of that fact.
- Mark Horne
I thought he was still on the iPhone.
- Alex Scoble
iPhone has a doc viewer built in, so if he's complaining about not being able to open it, he must not still be using the iPhone
- Curtiss Grymala
Unless he's trying to edit the document. In which case, he can't easily do that on the iPhone
- Curtiss Grymala
Someone once sent me a comprehensive shoot-out style software review of just about every wallpaper changer application for windows that exists, knowing full well the review was going to be published on a web page in HTML format...as one of the most complex excel documents I have ever seen. After 3-4 people collaborating on how the hell I could open and view this properly to extract ALL...
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- April Russo (app103)
"It was so close I could taste it. Two weeks ago we were ready to publicly launch the CrunchPad. The device was stable enough for a demo. It went hours without crashing. We could even let people play with the device themselves – the user interface was intuitive enough that people “got it” without any instructions. And the look of pure joy on the handful of outsiders who had used it made the nearly 1.5 year effort completely worth it."
- Fulaan, inna Hebel
from Bookmarklet
There's more this story than is being told, I'm sensing.
- Fulaan, inna Hebel
Ungood! A hundred times double-plus ungood! But yes, there is the air of missing information.
- i80and
from IM
Yeah, definitely more to the story. This could also be a negotiating tactic on the part of Arrington, he does have considerable power with his readership. No way to know for sure.
- mikepk
Can it be that FG refused to make it at a $300/unit price point and that Arrington refused to budge on the price?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
For a "Fortune 100 Business Intelligence developer" you do ask quite a stupid question, Daniel. Were you privy to Arrington's budget figures and cost estimates to assume his $300 retail unit target was anywhere near realistic? You think his 13-people strong manufacturing partner FG was sunk by greed [before product even hit the market] because that's what Arrington alleged to? Wake up. #CrunchPad
- ianf ⌘
Odd that no one has even mentioned the rumors of an Apple tablet, and how that might affect the success of the Crunchpad.
- John Craft
Listen to yesterdays MacBreak Weekly. Leo and co had a along discussion about this that included the iTablet.
- Roberto Bonini
"MacBreak Weekly 169: This Is What Happens Larry" - LOL. Thanks, Roberto.
- John Craft
For those of us who cannot afford to invest umpteen minutes of their lives in listening to Laporte's et al. drivel, could you please summarize his arguments here, Roberto?
- ianf ⌘
Either there never was a crunchpad (ie this is arrington's way of getting out of it- but there are working prototypes). Or there was no way to get it to Market before the iTablet (hence the crunchpad would just be another also ran). Or, and this is alex lindsays theory that there was no way to do it at $300 or $400 dollars.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Basically then what I was saying all along http://friendfeed.com/search... - darn Laporte to steal all the credit (and credit$$$) for Regurgitating My Stating The Obvious™
- ianf ⌘
There was a lot more discussion over the matter. But those are the main main main points.
- Roberto Bonini
Interesting SAM. What if this is a Apple-esque stunt to drive demand??
- Roberto Bonini
Which particular "Apple[-esque]" stunt are you thinking of?
- ianf ⌘
I thought of that Roberto... and if it is... brilliant and I want mine in black.
- SAM
Ian - none in particular... but Apple does all sorts of non-orthodox PR. i want mine in black too - to go with my iPhone ;)
- Roberto Bonini
I was just saying the $300 price point was unlikely and maybe FG didn't want to stay involved with an impossible project. Thanks for the kind words, Ian.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Oh, I though something has passed me by [everybody needs to conduct occassional self-test for Alzheimer on themselves, and this was mine ;-))]. Apple would not have done anything like that, and –TRUST ME ON THAT– Arrington even less so. He has lost so much face over it already, that he'd be downright stupid to attempt to whip up the interest for the CrunchPad by killing it first. He's naive, but stupid? no.
- ianf ⌘
Daniel, emit things grounded in reflection or experience, and I'll be the first to applaud you. From a "business Intelligence developer" I'd expect something better than that your naive take of the TC/FG business relationship: "[maybe] FG refused to make it at a $300/unit price point and Arrington refused to budge on the price?" Spare us.
- ianf ⌘
@mikepk http://friendfeed.com/techcru... "This could also be a negotiating tactic on the part of Arrington" - NOT. Other things being equal, Arrington will never fully recover from that monumental fiasco he himself engineered. Recover as in being taken seriously by readers in the future. As there was nothing to be...
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- ianf ⌘
#sidenote: that's probably the first time I've seen a permalink of a comment by someone in an actual FF thread
- Fulaan, inna Hebel
"Remember seeing Redskins QB Joe Theismann’s leg get destroyed on Monday Night Football? Watching Giants legend Lawrence Taylor giving Theismann an extra leg joint was kind of like watching a Bea Arthur sex tape–highly disturbing, strangely compelling, and thankfully, that wasn’t us in either scene. But most sports injuries are of the garden-variety type (think ankle sprains and groin pulls), but every once-in-a-while an athlete sustains a truly grotesque, stomach churning, pants shitting injury that, unlike a Golden Girl sex-a-thon, gets replayed on Sportscenter again…and again…and again. Here are ten of the most horrifying sports injuries of all-time, all rated with your handy Theismann-O-Meter."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
i feel a little sick from this list. at first i thought, "where's dave dravecky?" but as gross as his arm was, it wasn't gross enough for this list.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
I remember watching that Raiders game with Napoleon McCallum's injury. They only replayed that twist a few dozen times in the first ten minutes after his leg decided to part ways with the rest of his body.
- Steven Perez
Yeah, I was kinda wondering why Robin Ventura's ankle blowout (1997 spring training) didn't make the list. That was fairly horrific, too.
- Steven Perez
I can't believe I watched those videos. Even more, I can't believe I watched the ones I'd already seen before *again*. -_-
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
Neither is separating your spine from your pelvis. Thank God they didn't find photos of that.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I will never, ever forget Malarchuk's injury. I still feel a little swoon-ish when I see it.
- vicster
Seems to be no video of the Jason Kendall (pittsburgh pirate) compound leg fracture while running to 1st base. After the break he ran another couple steps on the stump....
- Steve
"Upon further review . . . UCLA Coach Rick Neuheisel remains convinced that there was nothing wrong with the final minute of USC's 28-7 victory over the Bruins. Neuheisel called a timeout with 54 seconds left Saturday and the Trojans taking a knee to run out the clock. USC Coach Pete Carroll countered by throwing a long touchdown pass that resulted in an angry confrontation between players on the field. "Do I wish I did it differently? No," Neuheisel said on Sunday. "There were 50 seconds left and we had three timeouts. You owe it to your guys to keep trying." Asked about Carroll's decision to go for the jugular, Neuheisel said, "It is Pete's job to coach his team." Neuheisel, though, was asked what his decision would be if an opposing coach called time out with the Bruins leading and the game decided. "I would probably run the ball," Neuheisel said. Not pass? "If you miss a pass, it would save them a timeout," Neuheisel said. So he definitely wouldn't throw a deep pass? "This just...
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- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
I am not a Pete Carroll guy, but if Newweasel wouldn't let you run out the clock by taking a knee I have no issues with him throwing a bomb
- RAPatton
I don't think anyone outside of LA had an issue with the final minute. I'm more concerned about USC, they've got a lot of work to do in the off-season
- LANjackal
I don't see how UCLA fans can be upset; you call a timeout on a team trying to end a game by taking a knee, you better be ready to defend their offense
- RAPatton
from iPhone
I'm not upset, I thought it was an awesome pass and reception. We just played poorly and made too many errors. Maybe next year...
- Michael Fidler
Tempest in a teapot. USC wanted to end it gracefully, UCLA declined, USC continued playing full throttle.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I think the game ended how it should have ended. I'm a huge fan of coaching to the last second on principle. I hate when the final 5 minutes of a game are a tea party
- LANjackal
from IM
I have no fan allegiances here and if we consider football to be a game of chess, Pete Carrol's decision after the timeout was the best decision to make. Why turn it over on downs?
- Jason Toney
Pete did the right thing; if the baby bears would not gracefully accept defeat, you have to keep playing
- RAPatton
from iPhone
He did the right thing. The other team was asking for it and they should have defensed the play
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Where Pete Carroll punks out is I think he focuses completely on football and very little on character building. From what I hear from local sports, the taunting from the USC bench was constant and awful all game and got even worse after the time out call. I realize it's a rivalry game but damn.
- Jason Toney
If the taunting were egregious UCLA would have filed a formal complaint. Stop whining
- LANjackal
from IM
Thankfully it is. Just got back from Wal-Mart with a new tire, a hair cut, and a salad.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from iPhone
That's pretty neat. I've never seen one that looks like that. And you just reminded me that I can use my air compressor to inflate my tires. I always forget that because it's so small.
- Captain Bubbles
Less than that because they didn't take into consideration those with a broadband connection that have low data transfer limits and the ones with really bad flaky service.
- April Russo (app103)
Don't worry; urban might keep him out for a series
- RAPatton
from iPhone
It probably won't get mentioned on ESPN because they are too busy salivating over Tim Tebow. They should rename College GameDay as College TebowDay. Yes, I'm hatin'.
- Michelle Martinez
I'm just embarressed that Urban was ever on osu assistant, and think that Saban's (another former osu assistant) going to cause a talent issue in coming years for the gators. As Gator players go, I was a big Emmitt S. fan when he was in college and I like Percy H.
- RAPatton
from iPhone
I love my Gators and Tebow, but EVERYONE has been drinking too much of the Kool-Aid! Where's the love for Colt McCoy? He's graduating too and has had a great career, why not show him some love? As for Meyer & Saban recruiting...there will be competition (don't forget Kiffin at UT), but I don't think one team or another will suffer, per se, due to one or the other when it comes to recruting.
- JA Castillo
@Michelle & Jamar - #suckit Dawg-fans...it's going to be a long off-season for you guys! :P
- JA Castillo
haha @JA don't worry if ya'll beat Bama I'll root for SEC come MNC game
- jamar78
haha...yeah, win or lose, I will be rooting for the SEC in the NC game too! Though, I do think Saban is an ass...
- JA Castillo
Image stabilizers, timers, post-processing "flash", cropping, magic pre-calibrated color schemes, goofy filters to add water effects and vignette boxing.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
/Disclosure: Stephen Mack liked this because I am a TiVo subscriber and Jesse Stay liked it because I advise SocialToo. (See what I mean?)
- Louis Gray
Exactly. Now we're all gonna overdisclose.
- Stephen Mack
he he... good points. I guess the idea is to make sure that you disclose content that you post that you get directly get paid for. Of course, no really good way to police this.
- Bindu Reddy
Louis, yes, you are an advisor to SocialToo, but I liked it because you are a friend and I like your content - no disclosure needed :-)
- Jesse Stay
/Disclosure: I recently had a meeting with Bindu where she bought me a free Diet Coke.
- Louis Gray
Jesse you could pass for an Englishman with a comment like that.
- Thomas Power
I liked this because Louis drops science in such an efficient manner...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
/Disclosure: Thomas Power invited me to a paid speaking opportunity in London to Ecademy in September of 2009. I also intend to have a paid working relationship with Ecademy in the future, to help raise their visibility in the US.
- Louis Gray
@Louis now I am embarrassed I simply got you a diet coke... Not liking this disclosure thing at all...:)
- Bindu Reddy
a diet coke, crikey we took him for two posh dinners and even introduced him to our three kids (who love him by the way)
- Thomas Power
Great thread, A+++ would [Like] again. Louis - I'm curious about your emerging relationships with enterprise players. Are these all Valley based? What sort of stuff are you getting into?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, today my major enterprise client is Emulex. They have a San Jose office, but are based in Costa Mesa. Most other clients are startups.
- Louis Gray
/Disclosure: I watched Louis Gray eat fried chicken for breakfast once.
- Glen Mistletoe
i wish i had something (anything!) to disclose
- Chris Heath
I'm not very interested in the FTC rules, but because of that nice review on his blog back in January I guess I'd better click like anyway.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
"My favorite question to ask when interviewing someone is: "Who would win in a fight between Spider-Man and Batman?" It'd always been a heated debate around the office, so I like to hear their main argument (rarely original), but it also throws them off from being all under pressure and generally lightens the mood."
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from Bookmarklet
Left to right, as if you didn't know already: Dan Hsiao, Casey Muller, Ana Yang, Jim Norris, Tudor Bosman, Bret Taylor, Paul Buchheit (with Camilla), Sanjeev Singh, Kevin Fox.
- Tudor Bosman
That's why I love today's web : you can talk with the people that build the next web, and see those who build your current web. Congrats guys!
- Zackatoustra
FriendFeed Team, I love you !!!! Thanks to you all, I'm very happy everyday!!!
- Renchin(Reina)Wang
So that was the TGIFF ("Thank Goodness It's FriendFeed") party? Perhaps slightly off-topic, but if Camiila hasn't been betrothed yet, have I got a grandson for her ;-))
- ianf ⌘
TGIFF was excellent. Great event and great people.Thanks for the invite and hospitality.
- AJ Kohn
Louis, thank you and thank you to the FriendFeed team for making a killer product and hosting a great open house!
- Brian Solis
(bump) Ana and Casey are now married. Here's a pic of them on the left, between Ross and Jim. Congratulations to Ana and Casey! (per http://friendfeed.com/jessica...)
- Louis Gray
علی حجوانی تو روحت، ای واسه چه موقعیه؟ :)))
- Mehran
:))))))))) مال بعد از عیده. اواخر فروردین فک کنم
- Aly
NPR most of the time, if I don't have my iPod for some reason.
- ha3rvey (needs soup)
I actually listen to KEXP, and another Seattle public radio station (KNHC), using Winamp. I haven't been using my home theater system lately (it has about 25 radio stations which I've preset), since I've been on the computer so much since getting broadband Internet...
- Dennis Jernberg
In the car, and once in a blue moon I will listen to a live stream of a football game from a radio station. Car stations are NPR, classic rock, and some top 40 or something.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
For me, the answer is no. I have recently read an newspaper on the question (french mag: Marketing magazine N°135 Nov.2009). There is a very interesting ITW of the headoffice of NRJ radio and some insight viewes on how musical radios faces their audience with Internet and Web.
- Véronique Rabuteau
"An Ohio woman allegedly spanked a stranger's two-year-old son for saying something that annoyed her. Gloria Ballard, 43, was then arrested and charged with assault. Donnay Jones, the toddler's mother, told the news, "She was basically trying to tell me what to do with my son." She told Ballard she would handle her own business, then she says, Ballard took Sean from her and spanked him, making him cry. Ballard (a mother and grandmother herself) denies any wrongdoing and says she was just trying to help. She says she gave the boy a hug and gently patted his backside because he was upset. She faces a maximum of six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. If the allegations were true and the child was yours, what do you think the punishment should be?"
- Michelle Martinez
from Bookmarklet
I would be furious if someone spanked my toddler. He is far from perfect, but discipline is my job.
- Michelle Martinez
if anyone other than me or my wife spanked one of our kids, i would break their arms as a warm-up to breaking their heads. this goes double for ppl in places of authority in the public school system (i saw too many outright beatings in school as a kid).
- Joe Silence is not dead
Do any parents have any thoughts on this issue that don't involve bodily harm to the people doing the spanking? Those might be interesting to hear.
- Noah Belson
I doubt they would be interesting, Noah. Family member is assaulted, people respond with violent negative reactions. I'm not sure what the "interesting" angle to this is other than "omg can you believe that lady?"
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Noah, the only other alternative is calling the police and they wouldn't get there soon enough to make a difference cos the person would be long gone. no, in this case it's time for delivering a beatdown.
- Joe Silence is not dead
I dunno, I just think it might be interesting to hear if parents have thoughts on these incidents that go beyond bashing someone's head in with a pipe if they touch their kids, etc.
- Noah Belson
Round these parts you may be right, Dead Silence.
- Noah Belson
I should add that I'd probably be pissed too if anyone spanked my kids, but chances are I'd just get away from that person quickly and skip the stuff about yanking their spine out of their backs, etc. I know me, I know I'm too much of a wuss to even make such threats.
- Noah Belson
nothing so grandiose or impossible as "yanking their spine out" but certainly some harsh words while giving them the goon-hand out into the parking lot for a damned good boxing.
- Joe Silence is not dead
I would consider a stranger spanking my child to be assault. I would call the police and report it as such. If the person tried to leave before the police arrived, I would follow them to their car and get the license plate.
- Rochelle
i'm usually pretty laid back, even shy at times. but i'm 6'1" and used to be fairly athletic in my youth. abuse one of my children and you'll be a very unhappy person very quickly.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Whether it's spanking or gently patting, I don't want a stranger touching my child.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
A question for parents: when your child is doing one of the things that might cause a stranger to want to discipline them (i.e. screaming a lot or being rude, what have you) what's your course of action? We're talking a lot about the reprocussions of strangers disciplining kids, but not at all about the causes. And they can't all be crackpots, some of them have just got to be really fed up. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Not trying to start trouble, just asking a question.
- Noah Belson
I was spanked by a stranger for acting up in a department store when I was a kid. My mom thanked her and baked her a cake. o_O
- Derrick
No thoughts, really. No amount of crazy irritating behavior justifies hitting strangers. May as well skip straight to beating the crazy homeless guy on the street for annoying you on your ride to work.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Well this kind of thing brings about a lot of monday morning quarterbacking (which is normal, frankly) and I'm actually trying to cut through that stuff and examine WHY these incidents are happening in the first place. Is EVERY person who disciplines someone else's child crazy, or are some just completely fed up? I do not condone what they do in ANY WAY, but I am trying to understand WHY they do it. And "because they're nuts" just doesn't seem to cut it.
- Noah Belson
@Noah I think a lot of people are fed up, not to put too fine a point on it but I see quite a few people running around with kids but very few "parents". That being said, I don't think it would be right put put your hands on a strangers child
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
no monday morning QBing bullshit here. when my kids act up in public or at home i don't ignore it, i deal with it immediately. NO ONE BUT MYSELF OR MY WIFE has the right to get physical with my kids. PERIOD. cross that line at your peril.
- Joe Silence is not dead
and only a fool with issues would take the disciplining of a stranger's child into their own hands uninvited. so "because they're nuts" is pretty much the only shoe that fits that jackass.
- Joe Silence is not dead
What say we move away from the act of discipline itself and examine WHY someone would feel the need to do such a thing in the first place. Are they just insane in general, or insane for finding a child's behavior annoying? Is anyone who's annoyed by a child's behavior insane? Or do you only become insane if you act on that annoyance? And what's the parent's role in preventing this type of behavior? Or is there any?
- Noah Belson
plenty of pplz kids annoy me. do i smack them? no. the action is insane, not the impulse. the parent's role in preventing their children's bad behaviour is in being a parent and not trying to be their buddy, which is a common mistake.
- Joe Silence is not dead
but what's at issue here is the action of the person who took the disciplining of a stranger's child into her own hands, not why she did it. no mystery there. re-read the first post, that stupid twunt thought she had the right to school a stranger on how to deal their misbehaving child. what she did was assault. she should get the maximum penalty cited in the story.
- Joe Silence is not dead
I think we all agree that people who touch other people's kids should be dealt with harshly. What I'm trying to determine is why this sort of thing is happening, beyond "insanity." At some point we're going to have to examine a parent's responsibility to properly discipline their own children. That kind of thing is always an afterthought in situations like this, but if it was discussed more, situations like this might occur a lot less frequently.
- Noah Belson
Well - if someone assaulted one of my kids my first priority would be to make sure my child is okay and then restrain the person so they could be dealt with appropriately because my first reaction would be to revenge my kid. But following my initial instinct would not really teach my kid anything other than violence is the way to resolve difficult problems. I'm not sure how gently I would restrain the offender, though.
- WorldofHiglet
additionally, i get the impression that most of the ppl on FF who have kids (at least the ones i am subbed to) are not absent parents. they do properly discipline their own children when it's appropriate in their own mind. they also take raising their children very seriously and, as a result, probably don't have to discipline them very often.
- Joe Silence is not dead
that said, there is never a circumstance where it is appropriate for someone to physically discipline a stranger's child. the parent(s) not doing it themselves is no excuse.
- Joe Silence is not dead
You're totally right, that is no excuse. I guess it's really two separate issues, people assaulting kids and parents refusing to discipline their kids. I may have made a mistake in trying to address both issues in the same discussion. Apologies if I ruffled any feathers in the process.
- Noah Belson
I agree with that, DS, but I would stop a kid running into the road or something like that, whether I knew them or their parents or not.
- WorldofHiglet
Higlet: stopping someone's kid from getting pasted by an SUV is VERY different from backhanding that child cos they won't stop singing the theme to Barney at the top of their lungs. :P
- Joe Silence is not dead
Yes, but still you would have to touch them to stop them. I was just trying to illustrate that sometimes you have to intervene.
- WorldofHiglet
What kills me is when we're at the park and some little kid is running around hitting other kids and the parent is nowhere to be found. You better believe that I'd tell him to stop and find his mommy. Too many parents out here just think their kids can do no wrong. Grr.
- Lis Miller
Rather than spank someone else's kid, I would be more interested in choke-slamming the parent of that child. It's not the kid's fault they weren't raised properly. Gotta take the ass whooping to the source...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I was spanked by a complete stranger when I was 10 (39 years ago), for throwing a stick at his car. Didn't dare tell my mom. If she had found out, she would have shaken the stranger's hand and then spanked me herself in front of him. It is so different these days!
- paul williams