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esther ♥ ♫, pea, Gordon Herd and 30 other people liked this
oh my, adorable! x_x
- Anna Haro
cute!
- Trish Haley
:D
- JA Castillo
A great picture
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Too cute!
- Nia
aw
- esther ♥ ♫
Aw YEAH! I found my Easy Bake Oven cake tin pusher thingy. It's on bitches!
Steven Perez, Steve, Jimminy Fuller and 52 other people liked this
LMMFAO
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
lololol
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
x_x. (but wait: i have an easy bake oven too ... that i got at 28.)
- tiffany
I think my current Easy Bake Oven was either for Mother's Day or Valentine's Day. I know I got it in '07. I have all *kinds* of stuff to bake. *happy dance*
- Admiral Anika
what's a turkey take in an easy bake? like 6 days?
- Morgan Haley
Wow, hard core! Thanksgiving via Easy Bake Oven!
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
LOL @ cake tin pusher thingy.
- Derrick
that pic is too funny. I bet you'll get sketched tonight ;) I don't peek to see who's ahead in my Best of Day
- Kamilah Gill
OMG... *covers his ass and runs for his life*
- Adrian
LOL
- Parth Awasthi
Hahaha
- Rodfather
Is that a multi-use tool? It looks like you can use that to choke someone from a distance.
- imabonehead
Without reading the text I thought Anika was about to blow giant bubbles.
- Mark Krynsky
Well that looks familiar..
- Mo Kargas
I used to skip making the cake and just eat the boxes of mix... Yeah, that probably explains a lot about me.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
That's awesome.
- Give 'Em DBizness
It would be more awesome if I could remember where I put my Easy Bake Oven. *sigh*
- Admiral Anika
It's your facial expression that makes this one so full of win.
- April Russo (app103)
This pic just keeps making me laugh.
- ha3rvey (big appetite)
Lol, that thing would fit right on your chin, you know.
- Rick Cogley
I should use it to prop me up while I'm working.
- Admiral Anika
Turbaconducken - http://bitsandpieces.us/2009...
Nicholas Kreidberg, Jimminy Fuller, Robyn Hawk and 38 other people liked this
Moreover, did this originally cluck or oik?
- Micah Wittman
cloink
- Jim Iz Not on Ur List
Winner!
- Micah Wittman
A thing I didn't think could better, has just been made Epic++infinity
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Good gravy!
- Trish Haley
gravy is totally not necessary.
- Jim Iz Not on Ur List
Now deep-fry it.
- Josh Haley
Was this stolen from This Is Why You're Fat?
- Kamilah Gill
Needs to be covered in cheese before being battered and deep fried.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
jesus
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Pour some maple syrup on that and park it next to a couple of eggs
- Adrian
I want to bread this thing badly.
- Carlos Ayala
LOL Carlos you don't want to know what I read you wanted to do with those birds...
- Rasmus Lauridsen
I wonder how this tastes.
- Junebug
like chicken, probably.
- Jim Iz Not on Ur List
do want.
- Can Mert Bozkurt
"I wanna take this behind the gym and get it pregnant."
- Jason is Sassy
from Android
and our new overlord is born.
- Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
lol
- echostreamer
makes my arteries clog just looking at it!
- Bonnie Foster
Is this what they make McRibs from?
- Mark It's 2000-Oh-1-Oh J
Shush, guys, he's trying to say something...
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
OMG OMG OMG
- Mark Krynsky
Stunning Images of Herds from Above #shareit - http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/feature...
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Feyzullah DALDAL, calculi, Aperture Image and 78 other people liked this
"Though the term “herd behaviour” today is most often used when talking about financial markets, it originally described individuals in a group acting together without direction – for example an animal herd fleeing from a predator. When seen from above, animal herds seem to follow intricate and intriguing patterns."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
When we watch Planet Earth, I'm always amazed at the sheer numbers of herds. I like to think of herds as >1000 (is that less than?), but we saw one doc that showed something like 25K gazelles. Amazing. Or the one with the gigantic flock of birds. WOW.
- Admiral Anika
Planet Earth is an amazing documentary. I guess Nature's Great Events are on their way to the US soon too. That's another great natural history doc from the BBC.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes, I've seen NGE, but seriously PE is infinitely better, visually speaking. The only thing that bugs me about PE is the constant, "Thanks to our brand-new, super-expensive technology we were able to be the first to capture this fish swimming." or whatever. Enough with the dick-stroking just give me facts.
- Admiral Anika
Yeah but there isn't much of that to be fair and is completely overshadowed by the quality of the images and documentary. Both NGE and PE are excellent. We get so much of that from the BBC, it's great.
- Kol Tregaskes
You don't think it's a lot? The other night we watched the PE marathon on Discovery. In each hour show, Weaver must have mentioned it 3 - 4 times. That's a lot to me. :) I can't wait to get both series in a boxset, but we agreed that we'll wait until we get a better TV.
- Admiral Anika
Anyone know when the new Planet Earth is coming out, i heard they were filming it a long time ago but i know it takes years to make those?
- Steve C
Steve, I had no idea there was even a new one in the making. How exciting.
- Admiral Anika
Steve, I just realized that the Planet Earth marathon I was watching was narrated by Sigourney Weaver, whereas the old ones were narrated by David Attenborough. Maybe these are the new ones, which explains why I was confused over some of the topics thinking, "Gosh I don't remember that one."
- Admiral Anika
New Planet Earth? News to me. I think there is a "movie" coming out or even out but I've not heard of any new series.
- Kol Tregaskes
In the U.S. Discovery cut the episodes and redid the narration with Sigourney. Same footage.
- Stephen Mack
Ah you can't beat David Attenborough - who could ever replace him?
- Kol Tregaskes
I'll have to look it up, but I thought it was in like Discovery magazine that they were making the next set of series. I was wrong once in like the second grade, so I guess it could happen again.
- Steve C
Seriously? I liked Attenborough's narration.
- Admiral Anika
Anika. That's what I meant. There's no one better IMHO. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
David Attenborough is the king. Nobody else comes close. He's an incredible man- Parkinson did a great interview with him.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
And Attenborough says he has no plans to retire. Yippee for us. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Are those walrus?
- LarchOye
Yep, them there walrus. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Funny; just ordered the Planet Earth Blu-ray set today.
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
Anthony, well worth it!
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm a cow, mooo.
- Will Higgins™
Hehe, Will. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bumping some old good posts. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Working on my #bitchlips
Ken Morley, David Cook, Praveen Vasudev and 24 other people liked this
You're almost there!
- Mark It's 2000-Oh-1-Oh J
I gather the OSX installation was successful =P
- vijay
Photo booth is in the house. :)
- Josh Haley
oh my...
- Trish Haley
Don't make me use 'em
- Josh Haley
nice Dragonball Z hair there, d00d!
- Joe Silence
EEEEK!!! Fix Josh's face! He took too much alum!!
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Hundreds of people have reported dreaming of this man in the past year. Do you dreamthisman.org?
- Steve
Dream or nightmare? EEEEEK!!
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
THIS IS MY FIRST DAY ON THE INTERNET...WITH A MAC
- Josh Haley
oh my
- jbrotherlove
lol
- Danny Minick
That is truly disturbing.
- Jason is Sassy
haha. people do this to themselves?
- Praveen Vasudev
jack Nicholson ???
- johnpiercy
The Big Mac: British design student pens McLaren F1 successor - http://www.autoblog.com/2009...
Iván Abrego, Lars Clausen, istanbuldailyphoto and 17 other people liked this
"the LM5 concept is envisioned as a successor to the venerable McLaren F1. That means three seats across, with a central driving position. That means power provided by BMW's M division; a retuned version of company's soon-to-be-retired 5.0-liter V10 in this case. And of course, that means epic performance."
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from Bookmarklet
color has to go but holy hell that's pretty.
- pea
holy smokes
- You.
have you been in my garage ?
- SCS Watching the Sun
is there anything prettier than a fast car? not really asking for a list ----->
- pea
no. like the direction but needs to be flatter.
- vijay
Ooooh- Black or silver please.
- R1CC1
yyyyummayy
- Anthony Citrano
McLaren - part of a "real" car family (Ferrari, Lotus, Maserati, etc.) - Not Asian crap cars.
- Mekkar
New blog post: Best Code I've Seen All Day http://blog.james-carr.org/2009...
You. and Tapio Kulmala liked this
Dave, LOL. Now everybody can like any post twice :-)
- Tapio Kulmala
The State of Solid State Hard Drives - http://www.codinghorror.com/blog...
You. and Tapio Kulmala liked this
Do You Trust Small Companies With Your Data More, Or Big Ones? - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
Oğuz Serdar, Jorge Escobar, Micah Wittman and 8 other people liked this
I like your answer. The tech community has seen horrific privacy violations in the last few months from both small and big companies, and yet there are companies both big and small that take privacy seriously. At TiVo, for example, we have a cross-divisional privacy council reviewing all of our decisions and acting as a watchdog to ensure we follow our privacy policy. For my own data, I take each company on a case by case basis and entrust my data only if I feel the company takes its duty seriously.
- Stephen Mack
As with Stephen, it's case-by-case with me. But if you know me at all you know I'm pretty conservative about the data I provide to any company to begin with.
- LogEx
Great to hear that Stephen. I'm a "one-man company" for a couple web 2 sites. There was an interested potential buyer for one of my sites and though the negotiation never reach the part where we discuss the future use and protection of user data, I was constantly thinking how would I ever know what they would end up doing after the hand-over? It made me reticent from the get-go, because I treat the data entrusted to my care like I want my own data treated by others.
- Micah Wittman
It really depends on what the company's service is. If the company is dealing with financial information or sensitive information and it's part of my business process, I will tend to trust a bigger company more. For social applications and testing things out, I don't really care, as long as the site offers something unique.
- Jorge Escobar
National Weather Service predicts that winter weather will be unpredictable (??!!) http://www.silive.com/news...
manielse (Mark Nielsen), You. and Roberto Bonini liked this
Yup. It does. Think the same thing for the UK.
- Roberto Bonini
"And since it's so unpredictable, we'll be spending the next 3 months in Aruba. Your forecasts for the next 3 months will be published by Flippy the Wonder Seal."
- Stephen Mack
Amazon.com launches SAME DAY delivery. - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Chris Martin, Juan Pablo González, Mark Layton and 7 other people liked this
jesus. how big is that logo? :P sorry about that
- Zee.
Conan: NBC was piloting a new show starring Kanye, Serena and Joe Wilson, entitled, "America's Got A-Holes" . Haha..
Scott of Two Countries, You., Tsali, The Native of FF and Jemm liked this
Children’s fantasy world - http://fenyu.org/childre...
Seda, ilkin, nagihan incefidan and 14 other people liked this
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You., Chieze Okoye, Victor Ganata and 5 other people liked this
whoa @ cassell
- Richard Lawler
Absolutely brilliant
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
the only thing missing from the Cassell pic is "haz" instead of "has"
- chrisofspades
How to add support for hosing VBScript to your MFC application (sic) Yeah. Awesome typo. - http://support.microsoft.com/kb...
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All's Fair in Love and Freedom of Speech.
Thomas Hawk, Mattb4rd, Rob Haas and 6 other people liked this
Nancy Pelosi claims indignance about protesters of the President’s health care plan carrying signs with swastikas on them, yet I do not recall the Speaker expressing such outrage when protesters in her own district of San Francisco carried signs with swastikas and comparing former President Bush to Hitler.
- Sharon McPherson
I guess in the 'World According To Nancy Pelosi', being disrespectful to the office of the presidency only applies if the President is a Democrat.
- Sharon McPherson
Agreed; everybody compares anyone they don't like to Hitler. However, to be fair, those protestors were not being echoed, organized, and financed by the Democratic Party or NPR. The issue isn't the comparison as much as who is making it...the Left fringe vs. the Right base and elected reps. Also, considering the difference morally between health-care reform and started a war for only...
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- Neal Jansons
Thank you for your comment Neal. I respect your opinion, but I do disagree with your statement that "the issue isn't the comparison as much as who is making it". I do not believe that all of the protesters voicing their 'mistrust' of the President's Health Care bill are organized shills, in fact, I know that not all of them are. Like most people, I find it distasteful when people use...
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- Sharon McPherson
I don't think they are shills, per se...many of them may be quite sincere. But the proof is in the pudding: the major conservative groups are actively soliciting and organizing this (and worse) behavior by their base, while the equivalent protesters on the other side are far off in the fringe, with no real support or addressing by orgs outside their own little subculture. I know...
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- Neal Jansons
As for respect for an office...I just don't agree. No person deserves any more or less respect than any other...once that base is established their actions may change one's opinions of them, but regardless of one's opinions, it is always morally blameworthy to abuse someone and slander them like this. I don't think that the president deserves any more respect than my neighbors, or rather (as I like to put it), I don't think a homeless person on the street deserves less respect than the president.
- Neal Jansons
Comparisons to Hitler are emotional appeals which shut off intelligent and thoughtful debate of the issues.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Agreed.
- Neal Jansons
from IM
"No person deserves any more or less respect than any other". I agree Neal, but if you'll notice my comments were not made about a person, they were directed toward the "office of the presidency". I was raised to be respectful of the office of the President of the United Sates. There's been several Presidents who have held that office that I did not have respect for, but that has never...
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- Sharon McPherson
I hate to tell the lady with the sign in pic one, but people with Medicare rate their satisfaction with their coverage higher than people people with private insurance...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Regardless of how you or anyone was raised, I don't understand how respect can be due an office. It smacks of feudalism and divine right to rule to me. A political office is just a job, and not even a job that requires much of a resume, just a good bankroll. Perhaps if these people were political scientists I might have respect for their expertise, but the majority of them have no...
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- Neal Jansons
I think if it was a Republican in the office and someone like Air America or NPR would tell Democrats to protest at the town hall meets they would and I still would be disgusted at their behavior. It doesn't matter what party you're in, if you're going to be going to a town hall meeting you don't shout to drown out others. It makes me totally sad to see this going on.
- Molly, Time Traveller
And that's the thing, Molly, is that they didn't. In fact, back during the first WTO protests I was a DJ on Free Radio Santa Cruz (firmly on the left fringe) and we had people in Seattle calling in and just leaving the phone open so we could get radio footage. Prior to sending them out, we did non-violent protest training that specifically addressed belligerence, violence, etc. and told...
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- Neal Jansons
"...the Left was protesting a war, the Right is protesting people being able to get healthy." That is where we differ Neal," the Right" as you call them, which by the way, they are not all what could be considered "the Right", are not protesting against "people being able to get healthy", they are protesting what they consider an unwelcome interference by the government into one of the...
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- Sharon McPherson
Molly, I agree, trying to drown out the speakers in a town-hall meeting with shouts, jeers and name-calling accomplishes nothing but making those who are doing so look like juvenile delinquents.
- Sharon McPherson
Not that anyone has asked or implied it, but, I think Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh are big-mouth blow-hards who only speak to hear themselves talk, I haven't watched Sean Hannity since Alan Colmes left the show, and I think Glenn Beck needs a combination of Xanax and Ritalin to bring him down from his paranoid induced "they're out to get us" high.
- Sharon McPherson
Republicans with opinions are nutjobs; Democrats are always thoughtful and respectful.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
At least the woman with the Medicare sign recognizes that it's a government program, which is more than can be said for some commentators.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
They sure seem to like using Nazi symbolism. Every time people flash that around (sometimes in contradicting circumstances) I tend to ignore whatever they have to say. I don't think it's a symbol anyone should throw around, or label their opponents out of hand.
- Mo Kargas
It was a little hard to avoid using Nazi references with Bush I and Bush II given that they used some of the same terms - "New World Order" "Homeland Security". I couldn't believe they'd actually want to invoke the history behind those terms...
- Spidra Webster
Hitler comparisons are pretty much inevitable because he's the best known villainous dictator. I think they should be avoided because they makes one's argument look stupid, and when used for inappropriate situations Hitler analogies demean the very real suffering caused by the Nazis. It's better to use more precise historical analogies. But in some ways, comparing Bush to Hitler was...
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- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Seafood Pho and Tsingtao at Sai's Vietnamese - http://lagtime.posterous.com/seafood...
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...it was so tasty, quite inexpensive, and I don't think I'll have to eat for a couple of days. ;)
- .LAG liked that
soylent green - now with more girls!
April Russo (app103), Aron Michalski, You. and 3 other people liked this
Throw Away The Recipe; Learn The Ratio Instead - http://www.npr.org/templat...
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Tsali, The Native of FF, Jenny Morman, vicster is... and 6 other people liked this
"Michael Ruhlman wants to free home cooks from what he calls the "shackles of the recipe." His new book, Ratio, is about learning basic ratios. For example: 3:2:1 — three parts flour, two parts fat (like butter) and one part water — makes a basic pie crust."
- Scott of Two Countries
from Bookmarklet
I am far too uptight in the kitchen. Maybe I should read this book.
- Scott of Two Countries
I agree with the concept. It's often useful to follow a recipe the first couple times one makes something new, but usually after that, I fly on my own. Occasionally I need to look up temperature or cooking time, but most things I cook now, I don't use a recipe for.
- Ladybug Heather
Gannett wasn't playing when they said "on or around the 9th". The Greenville News is already notifying people of layoffs this morning, about 1 every 30 minutes or so. Dave is sending me a play by play...
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You know, in the classic "not like" like
- You.
Gotcha =) So far no one I know is out, though my sister-in-law's boss just got her notice.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Carl Sagan 4th Dimension Explanation - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Roberto Bonini, M F, Dee S. and 4 other people liked this
that's awesome
- You.
I just got "the" email: I am officially a 2009 Microsoft® MVP! Thank you everyone ...
Pistos, Davis Freeberg, Hal Rottenberg and 3 other people liked this
Congratulations.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
from BuddyFeed
Congratulations, this was way overdue!
- Chad Miller
Thanks everyone for the congratulations and the nominations ...
- Joel Bennett
much deserved
- You.
Way to go and about time!
- Hal Rottenberg
Grats. I don't know what that is, but you deserve acknowledgement for your work.
- Pistos
congrats!
- Mark Stang
Smellr: It's like Flickr, but for your nose - http://www.smellr.com/#
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bnoise, HealingBrush, earl wallace and 85 other people liked this
"Your smell. Deeply personal yet very social, it says so much about you. And now there's a social network for your nose, a friendspace for your fragrance, a place to share your opinions on perfumes and vote for your favorite smells. We call it smellr and it's online now."
- Morton Fox
from Bookmarklet
WTF is this shit?
- tehKenny, Dork
BWahahahahahaha @ Humility!!!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
OMG. HAHAHAHA.
- adf
O M G just what i needed. hahahah
- kaieteur
If this would make me as cool as Robert, then it'd be the first time I'd wear a fragrance!
- Meryn Stol
Oh I now see the other ads. I don't care about those guys. I mean how to show you *really* don't get it - with your perfume. :D
- Meryn Stol
Genius... but where's "Megalomania" by Steve Jobs? :-)
- Andrew Terry
Oh yes I'd wear Steve's fragrance on occasion too. :)
- Meryn Stol
Andrew wins!!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
or, "Dogmatique" by.... Oh, no, I couldn't possibly say.
- Andrew Terry
Peter Shankman is winning! http://smellr.wufoo.com/reports...
- AJ Batac
From the facial expressions smell not so good.
- jcunwired
hahaha so funny!
- Jorg Jansen
BUMP
- Josh Haley
is that scoble???
- Rob Sellen :o)
If I wore this would I be a Social Media Expert too? Besides smelling sooo dreamy...
- sofarsoShawn
Hey - where's mine?
- Tad
LOL
- Caroline
Database refactoring is the worst kind of work there is.
John E. Bredehoft, Morton Fox, You. and Jorge Escobar liked this
DB refactoring is hard but interesting. Messy VB6 code is impossible to maintain.
- Tapio Kulmala
Well fortunately it's not VB6 code I'm dealing with.
- Chris, Without Direction
from IM
My real problem with the refactoring is due to using Entity Framework, although from what I hear I'd have the same problem with any ORM. And that problem is creating a root entity in the database while still being able to access each actual entity via its own set.
- Chris, Without Direction
from IM
I suppose I can create fake sets by querying the root set, but it'd be nice if EF didn't force me to do that.
- Chris, Without Direction
from IM
'Cept that'll make it much more difficult to get at related entities because EF doesn't support implicit lazy loading yet, and littering my code to support explicit lazy loading makes it less understandable even to me.
- Chris, Without Direction
from IM
Flickr Founder Calls Nuked User 'A Dick' | Gawker - http://gawker.com/5288759...
TheHenry, Davis Freeberg, Michael Hart and 64 other people liked this
Look, I think flickR should be able to control their network and its content however they wish. But this policy is ridiculous and evil (wiping out all user data and not letting them get it back) and they deserve all the negative press that comes with it, especially when they act like dismissive assholes.
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
Is he the guy that wrote that hilarious exit letter re: silver mining?
- anna sauce
Same dude anna.
- vijay
god, I love Stuart (finally read post) nice way to stand behind your colleague.
- anna sauce
exactly. : ) Title is misleading.
- vijay
I'm not a fan of Flickr but it's hard for me to summon any outrage on behalf of that dick.
- Chester
Check this out.. last line from Johnson- "Ask Heather to fill you in". lol! Credit to Stewart for showing the level of restraint he did.
- vijay
flickr is a great service but their terms of use and the ways they enforce them makes them much bigger dicks than any justifiably irate user. And I am not trying to compliment them. But it's typical corporate internet arrogance.
- Rick Powell
What a great chance to respond to a CR issue without having to represent the company admirably... given a chance to say what he actually felt, I think Stewart's response was maybe not totally called for, but totally funny and he has the right. Way to back up your former peeps too.
- SAM
Well, whatever. I think Stewart is a dick, but far fewer people will read that than have read and will read his e-mail and will make their own minds up.
- Rick Powell
So, if somebody emailed me to ask me to mediate a problem they were having with my former employer, I suspect that my response would both be ruder and shorter.
- Wirehead
I completely agree Anthony, it is unbelievable and I have a Pro account :-|
- Luca Conti
@Wirehead Well, in that case, you, just like Stewart, would be going out of your way to be a dick yourself. All he really needed to write was the first sentence, or not respond at all. But flickr's policy of deleting a user's photos without warning and without appeal, pretty much sums up corporate assholism for me.
- Rick Powell
My capital rules of staying on the internet: 1. be nice. 2. if you can't be nice, be civil. 3. if you can't be civil, be offline. They served me well in the last 15 years. (and - honestly - I trust Heather's judgement in managing communities a wee bit more than a random guy trolling comment threads, being nuked from existence and throwing a tantrum about it)
- dario
There is usually little difference between a nice person enforcing bad corporate policy and a bad person doing it, except for the style in which it's done. Apologies to "Heather," I'm sure, since I don't know her personally. [insert eye rolls here.]
- Rick Powell
this is why i stopped using flikr. They dont CARE.
- Jim Hague
As somebody who manages online communities for a living, I'm going to have to say that the response here was probably the right one (granted I haven't seen the original threads, and he could have afforded to be a little more civil with his language). Trolls live for this shit. And most of them are dicks.
- mike fabio
Troll is a dismissive word, used ubiquitously and uncritically. It's been MY experience that while there are genuine trolls, the word is not infrequently used to dismiss someone who brings up an uncomfortable political issue. No excuse for being a dick, of course.
- Rick Powell
What concerns me in this issue is that if someone at Yahoo decides that they disagree with something I said or the way I said it, they are willing to completely remove my account. It makes me distrustful of the cloud as a place to store my data. With that said, Yahoo was perfectly within their rights to make this move. It just seems like they don't care to engender confidence in the integrity of the data on their servers.
- Scott Ohlemacher
I have wondered if flickr so easily deletes paying customers photos because they have never provided an easy way for anyone to download all of their collection once it's in the cloud. I guess they think, why would anyone want to do that?
- Rick Powell
@Rick Powell: You're right that there is no excuse for being a dick, but dickery is subjective.
- Scott Ohlemacher
And I think deleting a paying customer's photos, even if he violated terms of service, and not the law, for instance, is simply bad corporate policy. That is really being a dick, in my opinion.
- Rick Powell
Amen, Rick, Amen. Perhaps the real issue was that flickr was afraid of losing the White House photostream?
- Scott Ohlemacher
Wow, just wow. Just goes to show you that money (or talent for that matter) and class don't always go hand in hand.
- Alex Scoble
Finally Flickr's actions as Judge, Jury and Executioner in deleting unwanted members is getting some mainstream coverage due to the political angle. Even if some disagree whether it was the correct forum to air his grievances on the WH's detainee photo policy, it appears to have been measured and civil. Certainly not grounds for a non-appealable deletion. So exactly how does Flickr safeguard our photos (i.e. backups), if deleted members cannot be retrieved? Cloud-computing, or merely dust?
- Nils Sandin
Yeah- seems like a draconian move by Yahoo.
- anna sauce
another Community Manager from a different site chiming in... Flickr was totally within their rights to toast this guy *and* his account. The TOS on any site is not just an agreement between a single user and the company with regard to their own content, but also between the community at large and the company that OTHER users will be subjected to the TOS. This guy was spamming and...
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- Edubya
Spam? What exactly was he selling? If I read the accounts right, every American needs to have those pictures shoved under their noses until they wake the frak up. Really, the vagueness in rhetoric that everyone just accepts here is amazing. They were pictures of torture. It was a political protest. Yahoo was certainly within their "rights," although the idea of assigning rights to a corporation makes me queasy, but that doesn't mean I think the world is better off because Yahoo gets to do what it wants.
- Rick Powell
@Edubya They have a right and obligation to uphold their TOS. However, asymmetrical responses like this are not a good way to keep up a good image.
- Scott Ohlemacher
Yeah, this definitely falls under the definition of protected speech in my opinion. Yahoo isn't looking good over this.
- Alex Scoble
"protected speech"? I don't think the constitution said you were guaranteed the right be able to post on flickr. The constitution doesn't mean everyone has to put up with your shit. A political protest in flickr comments is a pretty lazy freedom fighter anyway. That said, wiping out a paying customers stored images without a warning is really messed up, and it seems like they do that quite frequently.
- Richard Lawler
It may not be constitutionally protected speech in this context, but in another it would be. That should at least make Yahoo pause and handle the situation carefully and diplomatically just to avoid the backlash.
- Scott Ohlemacher
The constitution says that political speech is protected. It doesn't specify forum.
- Alex Scoble
I think that Anthony's first comment here sums up the situation admirably. Flickr did something legal that was morally ambiguous.
- Scott Ohlemacher
Just because speech is protect by the constitution doesn't mean that a private service has to allow unfettered expression of it.
- Kevin Pedraja
No, it's not protected speech but it just points out why we can't trust corporations with our data, with anything. They don't give a shit and they don't have to.
- Rick Powell
Ah, I love it when people speak up to defend the rights of corporations! Give them exemptions to all moral obligations! So encouraging for our democracy. Whether or not they have the legal right is irrelevant if we are talking about ethics. This is, however, the kind of culture we have.
- Rick Powell
A rule against spamming comments != a law prohibiting free speech. How is a corporation morally obligated to put up with spammers, no matter what the content is they're spamming?
- Richard Lawler
This may not hold up to scrutiny, but as a publicly traded company reliant on their image to maintain a user base and therefore profits, don't they have an obligation to shareholders to handle situations like this in the most diplomatic way possible?
- Scott Ohlemacher
Sometimes the truth hurts and hearing it from someone you hope will help you hurts even more. I've seen Johnson's trolling and he deserved this treatment, plain and simple.
- Rene Wirtz
Corporations are not morally obligated to do anything. That's the point. That is why they cannot be trusted. Further, I didn't make that equivalency between spam and free speech. You did. Not to mention which the word "spam" is debatable in this case, not least because corporate policies disdain politics, by default, a position which, of course, always favors the powerful.
- Rick Powell
debating whether this is a free speech issue or not is moot. Flickr (or pretty much anywhere else different from your own site) is private property, they have community guidelines which are designed for "the greater good" (which translates nicely to: having the largest number of satisfied users/customers possible). Flickr community guidelines basically boil down to "Behave. If you don't, it may very well be one strike, you're out".
- dario
Rick, not to defend Flickr because I think they've handled this poorly (from a PR point of view if nothing else). But if you sign up to use a service and agree to the TOS, you are voluntarily agreeing to a certain code of conduct. If you violate the TOS, you are subject to the penalties of doing so. Johnson is free to take his protest to another venue. That said, Flickr could be a bit more accommodating and give the guy his images back.
- Kevin Pedraja
and yes, losing your stuff sucks bad, and yes, they probably should implement some sort of "pre-ban" which lets you download your content back on - say - a two weeks notice before the termination of your account.
- dario
Is it an appropriate solution for us to "vote with our eyeballs" and boycott the service until they change some of these policies in a public way?
- Scott Ohlemacher
Peeps, the First Amendment protects you against government action. You have no constitutional right to a flickR account. There's a difference between saying "flickR sucks for doing this" and "flickR has no right to do this." They certainly do have a right to do it, and I have a right to think they're assholes because of it. But I guess that's what I said initially (sorry.)
- Anthony Citrano
@Kevin Have you read the TOS lately? Do you know what NIPSA means? I certainly don't know, after reading it a dozen times. Their TOS is not as arcane, opaque and just plain retarded as ebay's, which must set some sort of record in the history of incomprehensible corporate jargon, but it's not exactly transparent. I think they can ban me if they want. But after accepting my money and...
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- Rick Powell
also, on the "morally reprehensible" issue: this has nothing to do with ethics. Turning over your users' personal data to the chinese government IS unethical, and still, as a publicly shared company, you have to answer to your shareholders first, which might -or might not- be interested in your moral high ground
- dario
@dario What you described is why, in my youth, I believed in economic democracy, which, I think, only the Zapatistas actually advocate now.
- Rick Powell
I think you people are confusing how the flickr software is presently implemented with an arbitrary policy decision. This is common with people who don't know what they are talking about but like to sound like they do. I twittered this on Tuesday... unless you've actually hacked big software that runs on large server farms, STFU about how you'd change how a large website that runs on large server farms would work.
- Wirehead
Oh, I love that one! Technological barriers, the last refuge of the nihilist. Give me a frakin break. This thread has seen it all, right? First-name dropping, specious arguments about the rights of corporations, equating speech with spam, and now claiming the high ground for those who "have hacked big software." I believe I'll have another beer and thank the gods I have never been anywhere near large server farms. Big cow farms, yes.
- Rick Powell
Anthony...I agree. Chalk it up to another Festivus miracle, my friend! lol
- Carlton Hackett
@Wirehead That was needlessly vitriolic. Couldn't be civil and say something like "There are technological limitations related to policy implementation in communities of this size" rather than making assumptions about the skills and experiences of the people in the discussion and then disparaging them? You didn't contribute to this conversation at all, you detracted from it. @everyone else: sorry for feeding the troll.
- Scott Ohlemacher
Dude, I'm just stating an unpleasant truth. But it's very popular amongst people with a little grain of knowledge to assume that they can apply this everywhere. Do I sit here and make suggestions for how cattle ranchers might improve production? No, because I recognize that I don't know a damn thing about cattle ranching and would probably suggest something really stupid.
- Wirehead
On that note, I'm going to go have a beer and watch the hockey game.
- Scott Ohlemacher
I'm a bit sad that Mr. Johnson lost all his pictures. (Rule 1: always make backups!) But the more I hear about his one-man crusade, the more I agree with Stewart Butterfield's assessment. There are right ways to get one's message out, and wrong ways. Mr. Johnson thought his cause was so noble, his message so urgent, that the normal rules didn't apply to him. Alas for his 1200 pictures, he was wrong.
- Pat Rice
@Pat I would guess that a large percentage of the world's dissidents would say that the normal rules don't apply to them, and they would be right, else they would not be dissidents. As for your comment, your rhetoric is precious (alas? a bit sad?) and your argument, if I can call it that, empty. Anyone else?
- Rick Powell
Alex: The constitution defines how government must act. The speech is protected from the government squelching it. No private company is obligated to allow anyone to speak in any way other than the way it wants. Period. The constitution does not give you the right to make the New York Times print anything and everything you want, nor does it give you the right to make flickr do it either.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Most law, and most particularly, the Constitution points back to principles that Dick Cheney, among others, refers to as "quaint," but that doesn't mean they're not valued or have no value, or don't constitute, get that word, the basis for understanding moral behavior. Most citizens understand this. Corporations, unique in history we will eventually realize, are somehow allowed to opt...
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- Rick Powell
Big, scary, god-like (it's a technology, Captain, but none like we've ever seen) server farm or not, I expect backups have to be available. Maybe only for a week (I think that's how long I was told Sprint's picture mail server kept backups), but for some period of time.
- MiniMage - HLtW
See, you are just proving my point, BoringMage. There is a difference between backups and restoring deleted accounts. Given the expected failure rate of disk drives, if flickr didn't keep backups, you'd know. :)
- Wirehead
Flickr could disable the account and prevent harmful activity without deletion of customer data, and that is what they should be doing in these cases. This is more about consumer rights than freedom of speech.
- Mike Chelen
I'm afraid it cannot be "protected speech" if you spam the same comment 10, 20 more times on individual pictures. Then it becomes heckling. These are the flickr terms: "Don’t vent your frustrations, rant, or bore the brains out of other members. Flickr is not a venue for you to harass, abuse, impersonate, or intimidate others. If we receive a valid complaint about your conduct, we’ll...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
If they did warn him and he kept spamming, then he deserved what happened. If he didn't back up his own data after being warned and continued doing the same thing, who can he blame?
- Richard Lawler
Jeez, I keep commenting, since so many people find so many creative or not-so-creative ways of avoiding the real points. There is no easy way to back up one's flickr collection, which in some cases involves clicking twice for each photo - which can run into thousands of clicks. If you knew what you were talking about, then you would already know this. flickr's API does not allow...
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- Rick Powell
Yes, we've heard your opinion Rick. That's great. It still doesn't justify the guy's behavior. It doesn't entirely pardon flickr, and I don't think anyone is, but he made his choice.
- Richard Lawler
Well, Richard, if anyone had actually heard my opinion then they would comment as if they understood the contents of my opinion, which you clearly haven't. I have not made justifications about his behavior, mostly because I really don't fully know the extent and content of his behavior. Do you? Perhaps you can fill us all in? It seems clear he was obnoxious, as many people are who want...
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- Rick Powell
Rick, I am not sure about your point - in order to upload to Flickr you need to have the image in the first place, so the assumption is you still have the originals and could re-upload to a new account (I certainly have my images on 2 drives here plus several places online). If you somehow lose the originals you should take copies back out of Flickr immediately, not rely on Flickr (or anything) as your sole copy. PS: have you tried http://www.ghacks.net/2009...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Congratulations, Joelle, your life is a lot more stable than mine was. I started uploading to flickr when I was homeless and had no computer of my own. Borrowed cameras, with personal images, and gift memberships from readers of my blog. This year will be the first time I have to decide whether to flip the bird to flickr or pay up. 4 years of connections, not to mention photos. Not an...
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- Rick Powell
Just for the purpose of backup perhaps you can switch the images from private to public (but w. adult warning to avoid people being offended) - run the backup, then change it back? Just circumvent the system temporarily so you have your images at least! I totally agree with you that the feeling that the plug can be pulled under you is an uneasy one, but the cases where flickr has done...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
You have totally disarmed me. ;-) I will think about trying that, and any indie, open, distributed options you have would be welcome.
- Rick Powell
I have a lot of thoughts on this as some might expect. May have to break them down into a few posts. I saw this letter from Stewart well before it appeared in Valleywag. It first appeared in the DeleteMe Uncensored group that I admin on Flickr. My first problem with the letter is that I don't think Shepherd should have posted it there or anywhere at all. It was private correspondence...
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- Thomas Hawk
Had Shepherd asked Stewart for permission to post it and Stewart said yes I think that'd probably be ok then. But I don't think Shepherd did that and I don't think Stewart gave permission for it to be published. While I support Shepard's fight against Flickr, I did tell him that I didn't think it was right that he published this email. I know that I personally won't publish emails...
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- Thomas Hawk
Stewart and Heather are friends so I'd think it fair to assume that he'd stick up for Heather in this case without admittedly knowing many of the specific details. I think a lot of us might as our first reaction stick up for our friends. Unfortunately, I think Stewart's response turns this debate more into a personality thing than it should be. I think there are three problems with the way that Flickr handled the Shepherd Johnson case.
- Thomas Hawk
1. Obama campaigned on a platform of transparency in Govt. Deleting critical comments is not transparency. Obama is using social media to enhance his transparency. Deleting critical comments doesn't add much to his credibility in that department. This is not an Obama campaign photostream. It's the official Whitehouse photostream produced by your and my tax dollars. The Obama...
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- Thomas Hawk
2. Shepherd Johnson should not have had his account deleted over the comments that he posted. He linked to a photo (not his but from another photostream as allowed by flickr that was also nuked) depicting detainee prison abuse with a message protesting Obama's support of a new law to suppress additional photos from being released. Of all speech political speech should be given the...
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- Thomas Hawk
3. Flickr should not be deleting *any* accounts permanently and irrevocably. To be so arrogant that they would assume that they will never make a mistake in an account deletion is mind numbing. The fact that they refuse to address this issue and simply dismiss anyone who suggests otherwise is an equally horrible position of arrogance. Instead Flickr should change their policy with...
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- Thomas Hawk
+++ @TH
- Nils Sandin
Scott, this is not just about a Flickr account deletion. According to Shepherd, Heather was not aware of some of the comments that were deleted on the President's stream. The only way those comments could have been deleted (if not by flickr) would have been by Shepherd himself or someone who controls the President's stream. I've personally written to the White House on it and posted a...
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- Thomas Hawk
And there is no political bias on my part in this one. I voted for Obama and support him as my President even if I might not vote for him again. I'm a Democrat who believes strongly that censorship is wrong, even if it's done by a popular Democratic President.
- Thomas Hawk
Political speech does not and should not deserve a wider berth if the guy was breaking the rules. That should be entirely content agnostic.
- Richard Lawler
When are you going to realize that Obama and Bush policy wise are one and the same?
- John Blanton
from twhirl
Richard, the problem with that position is that the "rules" at flickr are very, very subjective. According to Shepherd, Heather told him his account was deleted because he posted a link to a detainee abuse photo and because he was "spamming" flickr, and yet Heather refused to define what "spamming" was and there is definitely no specific rule about not linking to detainee abuse photos....
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- Thomas Hawk
so in Flickr's subjective implementation of their rules? Yes, I do think that political speech should be given a wider berth. Not directly relevant, but U.S. Courts have consistently given political speech a wider berth when dealing with First Amendment issues.
- Thomas Hawk
If you think flickrs rules are bad then thats great, but its not censorship for them to have and enforce rules on their own website.This is not a first amendment issue and flickr shouldn't treat it as one, that amendment does not give you the rights being implied here. If your Dad sent a complaint to flickr about you posting his photo and you continued to repost it, then sure your stream should be deleted.
- Richard Lawler
Richard it is actually censorship if Flickr deletes an account. It might not be Govt. censorship (which also may or may not have taken place in this case). Censorship doesn't have to be Govt sponsored to be considered censorship. It may be *justifiable* censorship to you but it is still censorship.
- Thomas Hawk
No, it's censorship if they remove it because of the content, which is exactly why whether it is political speech or not should never come into play.
- Richard Lawler
Moral of the story: Don't be a dick.
- © b e e n s w a n k
Richard, Flickr did remove Shepherds account because of content. That's exactly why his account was deleted. Content of an image (detainee torture abuse) and content of his words (protesting the Obama administration) that they called spam but would not define.
- Thomas Hawk
You've decided it was the content based on their lack of a hard definition for spam, but that doesn't make it so. What he was doing doesn't serve for justification for how he went about doing it.
- Richard Lawler
Not sure anyone in this long thread has corrected the assumption that this is "censorship." Censorship is inherently a government act. If it's not an act of government, by definition, it isn't censorship.
- Jon Lebkowsky
At least, if you folow the strict, original defnition of the term. There's a huge issue here, but I don't see it as an issue of censorship.
- Jon Lebkowsky
Censorship by any definition is anyone preventing anyone else from fully using our right to free speech. .this is censorship of the worst kind.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
Jon: Censorship is not limited to government accts. Your confusing "censorship" with "government censorship," a common mistake that people make. Since you mention the definition of the term, check out the definition in the dictionary. Richard, according to Shepherd, his account was deleted in part for the photo and in part for what they call spamming (without any notice or warning I...
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- Thomas Hawk
Again, you have a right to free speech in /public/ - Flickr is a /private/ place. Just as you can dictate the speech that goes on in your own home, so can Flickr in their message boards. It may be censorship, but it is not infringing on your right to free speech We are all free to bitch about Flickr in public. So's the guy they dumped. Flickr is free to censor any damn thing they like...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
It is censorship, but it's perfectly legal and "fine" for them to do, however offensive and inadvisable it may be
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, I've never said his speech on Flickr is protected. I've never said that what Flickr did her was illegal. Flickr can censor me for wearing a green shirt if they want to. Nobody's disputing that. I'm saying it's bad policy and as one of the most active community members who has put thousands of hours into the site and thousands of pieces of content into the site, I think their...
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- Thomas Hawk
I do wish actually though that the White House would in fact address the question of whether or not they censor comments on their own Flickrstream. I think it's a fair question in light of Obama's oft promised new "transparency" in Govt.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas: no you never said any of those things. And i have to agree that it's bad policy. I think in general censorship sucks no matter who does it. And definitely I think you're correct that the Obama Administration should address that question. It's a fair question regardless of promised "transparency" - it's a fair question because it is OUR government. (of, for, and BY the people, right?)But, we've sen on several occasions already that the Obama White House cannot & will not live up to it's promises.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
If this is just a debate over corporate policy, then perhaps we ought to stop slinging around emotionally-charged & easily-misconstrued words like 'censorship'. Calling it censorship implies that it's a First Amendment, freedom-of-speech issue. It isn't. P.S. To Rick Powell: nice ad hominem there.
- Pat Rice
Thanks Pat :) Well said.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Pat, calling it *government* censorship (which in fact may or may not have taken place here) implies that it's a First Amendment freedom-of-speech issue. Calling it censorship is simply stating what it is. If FriendFeed decided to delete a user's account for posting images of prison detainee abuse that would also be censorship. Fortunately for all of us, Friendfeed doesn't seem to be...
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- Thomas Hawk
It does suck, but we do have to remember that this type of censorship is also an exercise of freedom as well. No matter how much it sucks, it is Flickr's right to do it. (no matter how bad it is for their users, or their own company it's still their right -we are all free to engage in our own stupidity) "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
If I paint my message on the side of the Washington Monument, and the National Park Service sends somebody to wash it off, is that censorship?
- Pat Rice
"I will defend your right to say it" indeed - but I won't defend your right to yell it, say it over and over right in someone's face, or heckle in a public space. And I wont defend your right to say it by force to people who dont want to hear it. None of these are free speech - As soon as your speech infringes on the free speech or freedom of others, it's no longer free speech. If...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Sorry, Joelle, I can only say you've never encountered an issue where your passion and your politics overrode your sense of propriety, (I have) because that is what you are talking about now. Unless you have suddenly become a public figure at the level of the President of the United States. Free speech as a right protects us against the government, not against corporate assholes, which...
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- Rick Powell
My pneumatic entertainment+workstation now has arms!
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here are the two arms + one notebook tray for $200 after shipping http://www.provantage.com/ergotro...
- David Lynch
here's the extra notebook tray for $32, where I rigged one so far http://www.provantage.com/ergotro...
- David Lynch
I also built the computer to be silent, because I cannot stand fan noises, or loud hard drives.
- David Lynch
I am going to add a 1080p projector for $1500 when netflix starts streaming HD on the computer.
- David Lynch
I could add two arms on the other side, and put a wacom screen, or another peripheral.
- David Lynch
How cool would it be if everyone at FF had a workstation like this? You could roll your office anywhere.
- David Lynch
works better as keyboard/mouse table http://www.overstock.com/Health-...
- David Lynch
my rig 9.0; with music http://friendfeed.com/davidly...
- David Lynch
No one cares how many Likes or Comments your feed gets.
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Should they?
- Brian Sullivan
tru dat
- mike "glemak" dunn
@Brian: In my opinion - no. FriendFeed isn't a popularity contest or an ego-stroking paradise.
- AJ Kohn
When you say "no one" -- do you mean including you?
- Brian Sullivan
@Brian: Yup, including me. I'm not going to whine when some of my feed items don't get Likes or Comments. Is it nice when it happens - sure - but in the end, I'm not focused on it nor do I equate success or failure by those metrics.
- AJ Kohn
But on the counter side - you post stuff in a public place so people will look at it and acknowledge - and that is done by liking or commenting. I would like to have stuff I post be acknowledged but I also derive catharsis just by posting so I don't need acknowledgement on every post.
- Brian Sullivan
I would say that there's usually at least one person who cares how many Likes or Comments that their feed gets. :)
- Alex Scoble
@Brian: As I said, it can be gratifying to get a response on items in your feed but it's not the reason I do it. The motivation isn't to obtain Likes or Comments. For me, part of it is to contribute to the data stream - I take *a lot*, meaning I learn from other feeds, so I try to do my part as well. Hopefully it helps some, sparks some conversation etc. but if it didn't well ... so be it.
- AJ Kohn
Well I must admit my motivation is not altruistic at all ... I am not trying to contribute to the data stream ... I do it purely for myself (http://radio.weblogs.com/0127028... for reference)
- Brian Sullivan
@Brian: Nothing wrong with that and I've used FriendFeed for cathartic release as well. You'll find me in Bitchfest from time to time ;) And I'll be rallying cycling fans come TDF season.
- AJ Kohn
Liked for assuming my opinion.
- Will Higgins™
AJ, I see what you're trying to get at, and I applaud it. On the whole, I've been delighted that FF is less of a "LOOK AT ME!!!!!! BUY MY MARKETING SERVICES CLICK ON MY LINKS!!!!!!1" than Twitter, but at the same time, I think it's disingenuous to say that participation on feeds is not noticed. Even if the individual himself or herself doesn't care about participation on their feeds, I...
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- Adam Lasnik
FF is just a damn useful place to store stuff, find stuff, and search for stuff. Likes and comments are gravy.
- Christopher Galtenberg
Funny, I use the number of likes an item gets to find the good stuff in friendfeed's search. So I do care about how many likes items get.
- Robert Scoble
@Adam: You might be right but that doesn't mean that's how it *should* be. The loner in the corner of the party might be really interesting even though none of the popular kids are hanging out with him. But ... all that said, Likes and Comments are important - I'm more interested in the mentality ... the mentality should not be to get Likes and Comments - it should be in feeding good content.
- AJ Kohn
@Christopher: +3. It is a nice place to store stuff. It's become a good place for me to park some of my ideas via contribution to comment discussions.
- AJ Kohn
I use like to index interesting threads it is not always an indicator of agreement.
- Eric Logan
AJ, again, you and are in practically total agreement here. I was just making a distinction between your asserted "is" and what you really meant, which was "should" or "ought" ;-)
- Adam Lasnik
@Robert: I understand your meta-filter and I'm sure it works well for you. In that way you actually don't care if the 'feed' gets Likes or Comments, only that specific items meet that criteria. I keep my lists to a Dunbar like number so I can catch content from my filters ... people. Nevertheless, I'm speaking more about the motivation to contribute and participate on FriendFeed.
- AJ Kohn
If someone cares about how many comments/likes their feed gets doesn't that simple fact prove the contrary of your statement?
- Geoff Schultz
I care.
- Steven Perez
I think everyone cares if they get "likes" and "comments" on their items but the only way they will get likes and comments is by having an interesting feed and interacting with other users.
- Nicholas James
We will eventually care more once Friendfeed filters items and feeds based on the amounts of likes and comments and based on the likes and comments of our networks. Sure friendfeed already does some basic filtering like that, but once they filter it down using algorithms, this will make all conversations possible in real-time about all topics, and filter only the best input to the top automatically
- Charbax
yeah i wouldnt say "no one" cares.
- (jeff)isageek
really?
- Baard @ Pixum
I liked this thread of comments, so much so - I 'liked' it. Good discussion.
- Mike Nencetti
I post content on FriendFeed to help get people thinking. Likes and comments, while being nothing to fret over, are signs that I am doing a good job.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I may not care so much if my own feed is liked or commented, but i care what items i like or not : for me it means sharing again en entry.
- Stanislas Jourdan
@Rishabh: That's a great mentality - though I wouldn't use it as the sole signal that you're doing a good job. @Stanislas: Yes, being judicious on your likes and comments is important. You're a personal filter for all of your subscribers.
- AJ Kohn
So, if I am going to pretend to be skeptical about Friendfeed in a presentation what should I include besides bacon, LOLCats, and people whose feeds go unread and uncommented on?
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well supposedly it's "complicated". At least that's what some people say.
- Laura Norvig
Don't forget that it's all Scoble, all day.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
NOISE!!! =) Oh, and people don't post on just one topic so it's hard to put 'em into lists. Silly well-rounded FriendFeeders!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
++ mark.... I am much happier having blocked him. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
You often see the same item coming by multiple times, as Google Reader shares, bookmarks, native FF posts, etc etc. But you can learn to adapt to that.
- Meryn Stol
Meryn... I need to work out which of mine to stop, which to use. ;o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
Dont forget the 23 million one sided Twitter responses.
- Tony C (Unrated)
from fftogo
don't forget about ff devolving from a place where conversations happened usually started from Tweets to just a repository for all those email forwards with silly pictures and funny captions... oh and a link farm for people just looking for SEO and not conversation / engagement
- Christian Anderson
People that 'Like' everthing, including a tweet that was nothing but the date or time.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
And it's only for discussions about FF.
- You.
Don't forget faux skepticism about said network is aided and abetted there. But to be fair, the force of irony deployed is usually sufficient to turn a negative into a positive. Or vice versa. Did I mention dog chasing its own tale comment thread logic?—"Look Ma, no irony!"
- Micah Wittman
And also the announcements that 'X' has crossed the line and will be blocked, then the follow up 'I've just blocked X' and then the "X fights back' rebuttal. Plus people complaining that FF 'is not the same/boring/lost it's flavour'.
- WorldofHiglet
The First Rule of FriendFeed: Discuss Only FriendFeed? ;)
- Tyson Key
FiendFeed!
- Tyson Key
dayum
- Josh Haley
I wonder if my husband will let me marry Jason Huebel for the day. LOL
- Admiral Anika
"The sky is falling! FriendFeed is doomed to fail! Facebook is taking over!" -> "FriendFeed will crush Facebook and Twitter" threads come to mind...
- Tyson Key
Photo shares?
- Tyson Key
Don't forget TMI "husband" matters =)
- Micah Wittman
NSFW posts available to the children of our world. They *are* our future.
- AJ Kohn
Its over whelming for someone who is trying to get into FF.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Make sure you add Last.fm tracks. Lots of them.
- Steven Perez
Don't forget Morton Fox and the other Likaholix (sic)! ;)
- Tyson Key
Sump pump updates imported from Facebook!
- Tyson Key
Forgot to come back yesterday and thank you all for the suggestions
- Alan Simpson
So...which ones did you use?
- WorldofHiglet
BOOBS!!!!!
- Ladybug Heather
well you should be amazed that you had comments, to come back to, unlike others who get no comments.
- Tatty Gibson
@worldofhiglet - saving them right now. writing presentation for conference in May
- Alan Simpson
Ahh - gotcha! Well there's plenty here to pad it out (not that need to pad it out...!). I'm assuming that crowd sourcing is going to be in there somewhere? :)
- WorldofHiglet
Wanted to report to all who contributed that I did my presentation and it went well. Here's the slide show :http://www.slideshare.net/theycal... Thanks for all the help
- Alan Simpson
Great preso, Alan! Did you enjoy the Pecha Kucha?
- Laura Norvig
There's no Oprah
- sofarsoShawn
Shawn - I mentioned Oprah, I just didn't do an Oprah slide
- Alan Simpson
Laura - Thanks. I enjoyed it. The 20 seconds per slide kept it moving and gave me less time to get nervous or worry about what I might be forgetting to say.
- Alan Simpson
DOMO ARIGATO!!
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This stupid song has been in my head for the past 5 minutes. Thanks a lot!
- You.
Looks like the budget on Tetsuo 3 was kind of crap.
- Akiva Moskovitz
now it is stuck in my head
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
TETSUOOOOOOOOOO!
- Josh Haley
Josh: +1 for Akira reference
- Costa Walcott
Akiva can have 0.5 of that +1. Plus his name reminds me of the film already. :D. BTW, that is one crazy-ass movie.
- Josh Haley
KANEDAAAAAAAAAA!
- Josh Haley
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