Hi Dr. Sanders, Is there a website for Lab Dx? I only have a link for Path I and can't find the site for Lab Dx. Seems like such an ideal day for studying :)
- Scott Dukowitz
She makes me laugh because she counter points my own article calling her and Walt Mossberg wrong for calling the 2010 web "Web 3.0." Lots of good points, except her defense of why she isn't on friendfeed is TOTALLY lame.
- Robert Scoble
Those are relatively sophisticated reasons to laugh. I just liked the Scooby Dumb picture.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
doesn't include twitter or friendfeed in the sharing module
- Michael Metz
Reply with a line by line retort, Robby x
- David Lloyd
2010 web versus web 3.0, so funny :)
- David Lloyd
Scooby Don't. Wow, kinda funny, but it doesn't sound like she fundamentally addressed the points that you made. I checked her Digg profile & her only friend there is Walt Mossberg. And on Twitter, she follows about 55 peeps. Not that she needs more Digg friends or Twitter followers. But what does that say about the depth of her understanding of these communities?
- phil baumann
Twitter share is coming on ATD. And Phil, I thought social networks were supposed to be used the way each person wants to use them and not in the way some dictatorial types decide.
- Kara
I am not on FriendFeed, because I must choose among all I can use and I find I like Twitter and Facebook best. Am trying out other stuff, but those stick. Also, I still find FF a bit more confusing, though I see why people like it.
- Kara
It's lame to pass judgment on which services a person uses. As long as they participate in the conversation, listen, and add value. That would be like criticizing me for not using video. I just suck at it, so I don't.
- Francine Hardaway
Thanks, Francine! But, apparently, some pigs are more social than others.
- Kara
Kara, I also like Twitter and FB best, although sometimes I get involved in a discussion here because they are fun, especially around GG or TWiT
- Francine Hardaway
Kara - I didn't say anything of the sort that you're implying. We all use these services the way we want. What I was questioning was your depth of understanding of these communities. I'm no expert. But: are you?
- phil baumann
Exactly. Like this. But now I gotta go get dinner for the kids, which might not be social, but is MUCH more fun.
- Kara
Didn't we have this argument about a year ago? Or am I having a case of Deja Vu?
- Jesse Stay
You were commenting on how I use social tools. That would be EXACTLY none of your business. It's that kind of know-it-all attitude that keeps regular people from participating. I am not an expert, nor did I ever say I was in the Scooby piece, but you seemed to find out exactly how I use stuff. I don't have any idea how you do, nor do I care. It's your ride around the planet, so knock yourself out.
- Kara
Also, I hope everyone knows that we were having fun with Robert, whom I love as does ATD. He is just the kind of passionate and enthusiastic user of all kinds of Web tools that everyone can appreciate (even if we don't agree on naming of Web eras).
- Kara
I just like that Robert got Kara to comment on FriendFeed ;)
- Jesse Stay
Blabby? first time I've heard the term.
- Carolyn Wood
There is a certain irony that the lovely Kara replied on FF
- David Lloyd
Kara - I was just asking a question. I didn't suggest any amount of knowledge. If I'm upsetting you right now, then I'll stop commenting.
- phil baumann
- nice banter- Kara - I think it worked;-)
- Carolyn Wood
Chris - yes. A healthy dose of sparks.
- phil baumann
Really is a silly argument about Semantics, with the exception of the Friendfeed thing, Rob thinks its a crucial part of the 2010 web, Kara thinks one should be able to choose what sites are important for themselves.
- David Lloyd
Hi Kara: I love you too. If I didn't I wouldn't debate you. I will come back to your other points when we open Building43.
- Robert Scoble
And I think "wronger" isn't a word :-P
- Jesse Stay
Scooby, you are SO terminated when Google becomes self-aware! (Then again, they are gunning for me right now due to my opposition to Yahoogle!)
- Kara
Mark: Kara will figure out why friendfeed is so important soon. Mark Zuckerberg today told me it is interesting.
- Robert Scoble
Wronger is not a word. It is a joke word, though!
- Kara
Kara it's okay - Robert called me an idiot on his blog. It's all love. :)
- Jesse Stay
Kara, I was joking too - I just thought the whole semantics debate was funny so thought I'd join in.
- Jesse Stay
Mark Zuckerberg! Well, if the Prophet of Palo Alto says so, then we all must follow! (actually, he is probably trying to buy it now that the Twitter guys dissed him and his $500M in stock and cash.)
- Kara
where else besides FF can you watch an entertaining debate unfold like this?... nowhere I've found... making my morning here much more enjoyable reading this
- MarkHirsch
Actually, I LIKE wronger. Let's all agree--if Zuck approves, of course--to use it all the time,
- Kara
I think Kara has doubled the number of friendfeed comments in this thread alone. :-) hey Kara wait until you discover the search engine.
- Robert Scoble
Phil: You were not upsetting me! I just think it odd that you report on my social practices. Both Walt and I embrace the whole shebang, unlike a lot of other folks in journalism, and we get dinged for not using each and every tool. Like I said, different strokes for different folks (which actually sounds naughty when you type it out like this)
- Kara
Mark, the 2010 web will be more funnierest
- Jesse Stay
The thing is tho Kara, FF really is a wonderful website, it's like Twitter Plus
- David Lloyd
Oh, hmm, predicitions: Screen ubiquity; explosion of touch, gesture, etc across all devices; social embedded in everything and now just here or on FB; real-time becomes useful; and, just wishful thinking for a decade now, the easy use of Web on TV
- Kara
Robert: Pizza with you and your spawn? My kids are like a pair of Dennis the Menaces. Do you have armor for yours?
- Kara
Kara, my big add to all of that: Open
- Jesse Stay
I know FF is great and, post-D, I will try to use it more. But if I end up liking another tool better, I want NO guff.
- Kara
Kara - I understand. I was just coming from the angle you just referenced regarding journalists and it's clear from your interaction here that you're thankfully countries away from some of your peers....Anyhoo, I'd like to see more face-off between you and Robert. I think Robert's on to something and your perspective adds another dimension. You should interview each other. Then we can duke it out on FF again. :)
- phil baumann
I don't think the in person interview would work, Robert would probably be overwhelmed by Kara's personality and just huddle in a corner!
- David Lloyd
First question Kara could ask: "Why do you leave companies after 18 months!" ouch! hehehe
- David Lloyd
But most people in the IT industry could be asked that one!
- John W Lewis
Kara and Robby say hello to Techmeme
- David Lloyd
Insignificant blabble. Don't these people ever do anything meaningful. If you round off the percentage of people who are "involved with social media" the result is 0.
- Gary Sanders
from BuddyFeed
I enjoyed the article, especially this part: "We. Don’t. Use. FriendFeed. Regularly. As I said, we use Twitter, we use Facebook, we use SMS, we use blogging and we use a whole lot more. In fact, between us, we try out pretty much everything." -- would you agree that their list appears to be broadcast oriented and not discussion oriented?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Kara, Like your FF comments better than Twitter..Its more interactive...:)...
- venkat
Hmm, not surprised Zuckerberg finds Friendfeed "interesting" since Facebook "borrowed" several features from it.
- Laura Norvig
Oh, Scoobs likes to get around and I like that in a man.
- Kara
Gary: Social media is important and someday so pervasive we will not be debating it.
- Kara
LPH: No, I think I have a lot of interaction with folks on Twitter. A ton, in fact. It can be just as reactive, etc.
- Kara
Ken: That's a long graph there for a listener and all. But attack us all you like! We love that too.
- Kara
I love responding in Twitter too as it requires I be pithy.
- Kara
I am and will always be a big fan of Robert Scoble and Scooby-Do. Sometimes at the same time.
- Kara
Um, Kara? It was GooHoo. Goo. Hoo. I stand by that.
- Andrew Feinberg
Oh cool Louis Gray just left (we spent the evening playing with our kids). I should blog but have had enough fun for the evening!
- Robert Scoble
Robert, what? The two of you together and no pictures on FriendFeed?
- Jesse Stay
...I like "Scooby" more than "Scobelizer"...it's more warm and fuzzy. Scooby, why don't you go with Shaggy to investigate Web 3.0. Me, Daphne and Velma will hang out with the cool kids at E3, signed Freddie
- .LAG liked that
Jesse: don't we post enough baby photos already? ;-) Maryam made an awesome meal, though.
- Robert Scoble
Robert you can never have too many baby photos :)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I took baby photos (and Milan). Want me to post them?
- Louis Gray
Louis, yes, please - do I need to ask? :)
- Jesse Stay
Hey Kara, does your level of activity on this thread mean you might possibly consider participating on FriendFeed more? If so, I'm totally subscribing.
- EricaJoy
Aaron: actually that is very wrong. I hear "Web 2.0" used in mainstream press/media all the time. Which is one reason I hate the name because most people think it is new and not nine years old already.
- Robert Scoble
This is inside baseball. I agree with Kara. The only people who care what you call it are technologists and tech journalists. End users pay absolutely no attention to these labels.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
interesting...checking the story out now
- (jeff)isageek
... It would be a bit weird to say the least.
- ralphsaunders
guess it cant be worse then some of the crap on tv now :)
- (jeff)isageek
It'll be interesting to see how they resolve the trademark issues with Leo Laporte and TWiT. There's also a http://twittertvlive.com already, which should get a cease and desist any day now.
- Ken Sheppardson
aren't they already resolved Ken? I agree though about TwitterTVLive - thats just one big mess
- Zee.
Zee: No, Leo's trademark applies specifically to streaming video/TV/etc. Since Twitter's not in that space, it creates no confusion in the marketplace, so there's been no "conflict". If they get into video, however... BTW, Leo was just talking about this on The Tech Guy radio show yesterday. The general TM issue... not the fact that they're talking about doing TV. That part didn't come up.
- Ken Sheppardson
ah i see, really interesting - might just add that to the post. Thanks Ken
- Zee.
As I understand it back in 2007 Leo left Twitter for Jaiku, in part to avoid TWiT/Twitter confusion. http://leoville.vox.com/library... He's back on Twitter now, since you really have to be if you're a broadcaster these days.
- Ken Sheppardson
Yeah, poor fella has had to come back with his tail between his legs. Clearly he's a little pissed with the similarities in the name...as i would be
- Zee.
Well supposedly everything is cool between them as long as twitter doesn't get into streaming video....
- Chris Heath
I guess the Twitter TV episodes will be light on content, but fast and edgy?
- DGentry
Seems like yet another vehicle for celebrities
- Raj Advani
yep +1 Raj, i think the celebs are going to end up winners here
- Zee.
My trademark is in ALL video, not just streaming. We've been negotiating mainstream TV deals, as well. A Twitter TV show might well quash any broadcast deals I might make due to the confusion.
- Leo Laporte
Leo, thank you so much for commenting. I'll update the post
- Zee.
This is bullshit. Twitter is clearly infringing. Besides, CNN is turning into a Twitter show anyways, lol.
- Andrew VanderVeen
it's about *core competencies*. when you think about twitter, you don't think (at this moment) of a tv show. twit's main focus is on video. it's what's twitter's planning to do that this is about. confusion exists. ask any noob. lol i think leo has to do what he has to to defend his investment in his trademark. again, it's more than just about the name.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Perhaps Twitter should buy the TWIT trademark,then Leo could really expand. Leo is the brand not TWIT. Without Leo, TWIT is exactly what Twitter is: a simple group of followers that generate content, most of which is consistent of a Twit
- Gary Sanders
from BuddyFeed
yeah, I'd agree with you Gary...i think thats a great idea
- Zee.
They're leaving Leo no choice in the matter
- Bwana ☠
Please no.........the beginning of the end, sides we already have you tube et al
- Kevin J Hatton
This sounds like such a stupid idea. They should be working on lauching a profit model, instead of a stupid TV show.
- PC Easy
from twhirl
Is this a joke? I can't even take this seriously
- Angus Burton
PC Easy: maybe they're hoping to make money from spin-offs like TV shows and books rather than the core product. Not a wise move in the long term if you ask me.
- Martin Bryant
Twitter TV Live has 3 shows live 5 days a week - it's based out of hollywood and the prodution quality (at least the audio) is just horrible! (turn your speakers down if you click this link) http://www.ustream.tv/channel...
- Chris Heath
The kindest thing I could say is that it is amateur and feels rushed. Admittedly I need to work on some of my own content but on balance work much harder to produce something of quality. http://www.ustream.tv/recorde...
- Kevin J Hatton
honestly i think they are hoping to succeed at showing other shows how an interactive component can be added with Twitter. They aren't entering the TV market as a content producers they want to enter as content expanders... When I think Twitter I think texts...when i think TWIT i think Leo....I don't see a case here.
- Sidney
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