This is so crazy - why stand by such a crappy retouch? Good luck Anthony, kudos for sticking to your guns.
- Joe
The reach of this story just got reachier.
- Micah Wittman
Oh well, then. In the words of Bender - they're boned.
- WorldofHiglet
I wish they had spelled your name right, though, Antiny.
- WorldofHiglet
They did call him "the lensman" though, which sounds like a superhero to me.
- Joe
Good luck, and please keep us posted. They are being such douchebags...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
You all remember the Consumerist not backing down from the Cash 4 Gold retaliation http://consumerist.com/2009... right - they held their ground, light was shed in a dark corner, and justice prevailed. It's not always that clear cut, nor easy, and battles can be lost; but it's right. It's a completely different set of circumstances here, but the principal of it is universal. All the best, Anthony.
- Micah Wittman
@WoH: thanks, they be fixin' it soon, I trust.
- Anthony Citrano
While I agree that Demi Moore is starting to take this too far, at the same time I do have to say that the guy who did the Photoshop work should have at least checked to make sure that things were lined up correctly. Photoshopping a image is one thing, but not keeping an eye on your work is another.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Sean, if only I knew. This was delivered directly to me fresh and hot.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Wow, whatever you do, don't google "Asian guys at beach licking" if you want to find the Flickr account for this. No, seriously. Just...don't. o.O
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
changed my life forever...I will always go to the beach with a a few chubby buddies after porking myself up for those bosoms ~ and this image is most definitely going in the ol' spank bank
- sofarsoShawn
Remember ! I bring quality product to Friend Feed !:)
- Akiva Moskovitz
you know what would be funny: ok bear with me, if we blindfolded leather donut (you know the booby man) and...yeah fill in the blanks...something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- sofarsoShawn
Sir, randomly linking to your FriendFeed from one of my posts is oh wait you'll never see this because you're blocked for spamming. Thanks anyway, kaghazrangy.
- Akiva Moskovitz
damn this picture just won't go away - you have forced me to hide it
- William Harryman
Akiva, wasn't that pic taken at your last BBQ?
- Paul
Every time I see this picture I smile. Their joy is infectious, like herpes.
- Sparky
Paul, I surely do wish I had a beach in my back yard!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sparky, I'm going to have this blown up to poster-size and attaching it to the ceiling above our bed. That'll cause some infections!
- Akiva Moskovitz
makes me want to grow a rack and diddle with my own, know what I'm saying?
- sofarsoShawn
this. . . .this. . . ugh . . . so fucking wrong.
- Peter Ghosh
Akiva - you can put anything you want above our bed.
- Sparky
i've been trying to formulate a comment for this for days, but i just...can't.
- joey
I still want to know the motivation here. is this a gay marriage argument? or are we already pushing group social contracts on friendfeed?
- Noah David Simon
oh man this one keeps popping up on ma friendfeed,....must spread virus nao
- Chris Hofmann
I'm surprised no one's noticed old boy's red-framed glasses.
- Akiva Moskovitz
oh right... the glasses are so important when three asian men are licking his nipples and all the comments are by people who think gay marriage has something to do with equality... when it has everything to do with taking protections away from children. the red glass glasses.... um yeah. chicken and Oklahoma with milk
- Noah David Simon
Mark, you have uncovered the dark underbelly of humanity except in this case it isn't dark but is rather a pasty hue somewhere in the vicinity of undercooked flan.
- Akiva Moskovitz
This should be in the default noobie FF stream. Like the first thing anyone who signs up sees. If they stick around they're part of the family.
- Chrimmus Tad
Perhaps this can replace the kitty pic on the start page for non-members!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I'm certain prop8 had nothing to do with Swine Flu
- Noah David Simon
I'm thinking that eventually, it will have been hidden by every user on FriendFeed. It'll be the most hidden post in FriendFeed history.
- Akiva Moskovitz
WHY WHY KEEP BRINGING BACK THE EYES THEY HURT ME
- Neal Jansons
from IM
Herpes (and this): the gifts that keep on giving.
- Sparky
I wonder if the FriendFeed guys see this and say to themselves, 'Well, this isn't exactly what we had in mind when we started started FriendFeed.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
I look at it and think, "Not again."
- Steven Perez
from IM
Just about the time you FF is getting some class .. Oh well we is what we is.
- Brent - Loving Life
I can't believe after all this time some diligent FF'er hasn't dug up the identities (I said "titties") of this bunch and invited them to join the service that made them famous. Mitchell Tsai, get to work!
- Sprague D
i think if you unlike and delete all your comments anna it'll go away, but hide in general would be nice too (this photo makes me smile every time it pops up so don't mind it)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
*sigh* This is never going away, is it? It's gonna end up like James Bond movies and Swedish meatballs - always existing in the same form. never diminshing, never forgotten. :( :( :(
- Steven Perez
from IM
It will go away, to be replaced with photoshops of the original. It's all part of the meme lifecycle.
- Sparky
I am too new on friendfeed to know anything about record comments.. I love gmail tho, puts all the comments in one threaded email and I can delete them all later in one shot or not if I choose..
- David Gross
from email
well we should aim to beat the record.. i mean jeez there are tons of things that could be said about this.. like.. does it taste like chicken?
- ed fry
I'm gonna have nightmares now. thanks ed. ;)
- Alejandro
ok, in Japanese: "an, an, soko dame!"
- Rick Cogley
You can't close this thread. A lot of people say that this place is a Scoble-fest but, truly, it is this thread that is at the very heart of FriendFeed.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm officially going to proclaim that this is the FF equivalent of Goatse or FFoatse if you will. Lets all refer to it as that from this point forward.
- Mark Krynsky
Sparky has left 57 comments. The rest of you are slacking. Hop to it!
- Christopher Harley
Chrisitan just walked by and said "It's too early in the morning for Japanese titty licking." It's NEVER too early for Japanese titty licking.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
THIS is the first thing I see here this morning?
- l0ckergn0me
Chris, you just woke up? C'mon, man! It's 10:30!
- Akiva Moskovitz
I knew he would break eventually - it's fitting that it's on this thread *now to find out how to hide a thread once you've commented....*
- WorldofHiglet
As much as I am loathe to bump this post, I have to do it to say, You, sir, are a master. Well played, sir. Well played. This is why I take every opportunity to say, in my next life, I want to be Akiva. I've already called it! Don't anybody go getting any more ideas.
- ♥patricia♥
I, for one, refuse to "bump" posts...it's very unseemly...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
I wish FF-search allowed to do GROUP BY -aggregations so I could COUNT(*) who are the biggest *bump*ers. :)
- Jemm
Makes me laugh everytime I see it. Such a happy yet silly scene by the sea.
- Toby Graham
There is nothing silly about it. This is serious business.
- Sparky
The more I see this, the more I like it. Not for the ironic nipple-licking, but because these kids are genuinely enjoying themselves. :) Carry on.
- felicious
This photo looks so much better in iPhone 3.0!#!~
- Akiva Moskovitz
Seriously dude. What do I have to do to get rid of this disgusting picture!? Doh! Now I've just pushed it back to the top... yuck, I'm so sickened.
- Jason Nunnelley
I love this image, because I have no clue why it's happening. Randomness FTW!!
- Jimminy Fuller
from twhirl
I'm just thinking of all the new folks coming to friend feed and see this and wonder just what the hell did I get into anyway? And why in Gods name can't I spell Friend correctly the first time - GRRRRRR
- Brent - Loving Life
Can't believe I never hit 'like' on this! Consider the situation rectumfied.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Oops! I hope I didn't just bump this up again... ;-)
- Sprague D
It's just so refreshing to see genuine juvenile humour at work. These kids are no different from any other, I think it's a great happy image, given all the other shite happening in this world on a daily basis. For those that are too pompous and prudish, 'up yours with brass knobs'
- ImJustCreative
Wow. 666. Nice! Actually, the reason Asashoryu is getting a divorce ( http://ff.im/4T0UA ), is because he wants to spend time with this lot.
- Rick Cogley
To this day, the pic still comes back. Just like Herpes. :D
- Danny Minick
Although unlike herpes this photo is fun to share with friends.
- Sparky
I would rather go to http://woot.com and buy the Acer Aspire One for $259.99, I do not care that it is a refurb.. but what would I do with two laptops? Maybe #hive knows? hmm..
- David Gross
from email
What's this? A real question in this thread? Two extra laptops? Make them fancy digital photo frames.
- Jordan Hofker
Reason #696 why the Internet can grant you immortality. ;-)
- darnell
from BuddyFeed
I can't believe this thing is still floating around Friendfeed. These poor guys... ha ha ha
- Bradley Farless
@SeanMcGee sorry about the spam, this thread is sorta spammy.. I get the messages in email perfect for replying with any message because it then gets posted on twitter and facebook.. I do not do it all the time, look at my other posts in this stream..
- David Gross
from email
Lactating, males last resort to save ourselves, now that they can create sperm in labs.
- Jimminy Fuller
This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started feeding it, not knowing what it was, and they'll continue feeding it forever just because...This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started feeding it, not knowing what it was, and they'll continue feeding it forever just because...This is the thread that...
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- David Gross
from email
I have 89 :( emails since july 10th.. that includes the ones I sent.
- David Gross
from email
gmail comes in handy, it keeps all the email in conversations, 100 messages at a time but because the subject " :( " it will not filter out so they dont go to inbox.
- David Gross
from email
*THOUGHT FOR THE DAY...* Women are like phones: They like to be held, talked to, and touched often. But push the wrong button and your ass is disconnected.
- David Gross
from email
all this oral stuff is just begging the question of when do they start with the money shots?
- Noah David Simon
I just use this image as a way to announce crap. no one really pays attention to my feed... except my enemies. so when I have something important to say I tell the Asian Titty lickers. it is my strong belief that this thread needs it's very own domain name. something like http://xrl.us/TittyLickers
- Noah David Simon
You know, every time this pops up, since FF hides the middle of the comments of which there are 804 or so, I see Akiva say "I'm sorry." at the top. It makes me wonder about how some things are just not possible to apologize for!
- Rick Cogley
wow, I can't believe tomorrow is Friday :o) no, wait, somewhere in the world it's ALREADY Friday :o)
- David Gross
from email
Thanks Rick, thats what I thought.. does that mean I can start with the #followfriday on twitter or do I have to wait till it is Friday here in NJ? would be funny to post it from this post LOL all my friendfeed goes to twitter..
- David Gross
from email
David - yeah, you can get an early start.
- Rick Cogley
Rick, I am not good at lists or #followfriday but there are lotsa good people in this thread.
- David Gross
from email
the thing that strikes me about this (aside from the obvious) is after seeing this thing pop up like 35-40 times since March its just occurred to me that I don't have any (guy) friends that a) would lick my nipples b) would lick my nipples for a photograph. Maybe I should get out more...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
I'm a little scared that I've this has gotten more than 800 comments and almost 200 likes over nearly five months and I still haven't clicked "Hide."
- Scott of Two Countries
It's just a bit of fun. I mean watching how many comment, not the picture content (although I suspect that is all that was too!)
- Ian May
Allright, you guys ready to shoot "mirth and girth"?
- Rick Cogley
For the life of me, I'll never understand the emotion people have around this picture for or against. There's no nudity at all, not even implied nudity. Less dude nudity than a beer commercial or cigarette ad, yet there are people who really really really hate this picture.
- Matthew DeVries
I found a way to get a Tit Theme, and it involves this picture.
- Jimminy Fuller
Hahahaha! It's like a telethon. And after Joey Bishop goes off stage, they flash this picture on the screen. "Won't you think of the CHILDREN?"
- Spidra Webster
It's been a while, hope the magnetism still prevails...
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
I just had to bump this once more... gives me a whole new excuse to go look at Phoebe again!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Hmmm, where do you think they're from? My guess is Japan...
- sofarsoShawn
The bumping algorithm includes things like novel people posting to it, in addition to thread age, and rapidity of comments. If the same 3 people are talking in a thread, it quits bumping because it's obviously a closed tea party.
- Matthew DeVries
I forgot, also you're a very handsome guy(saw the wedding images), I don't understand why you don't like to share your face. Rochelle is a lucky lady.
- Jimminy Fuller
Jimminy, it's an irrational phobia. No different than people who are afraid of heights, spiders, clowns, or Canada.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, now I'm LMAO at the fear of Canada. People are actually afraid of Canada, or just the fact they don't know if they're British or French?
- Jimminy Fuller
I don't think even Canadians know that difference.
- Akiva Moskovitz
If Friendfeed had sound .. this thread would be all licks and slurps
- Mattb4rd
Sorry Akiva, I think it was the display picture.. I have known male and female Akivas.. Oh and by the way guys I am not afraid of Canada LOL will be there this weekend.. Dave Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes...> - "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day."
- David Gross
from email
I popped the 666 cherry and I will get 1000 also.
- Jimminy Fuller
If it gets to 1000 will Akiva lock it so it can sink from our feeds forever? Please?!?
- WorldofHiglet
I think locking this post would be un-FriendFeedian.
- Jason Huebel
This is the immortal post everyone who uses the service must see it so WoH it just wouldn't be good to lock it.
- Jimminy Fuller
Not everyone see's it, only the people with true class do.
- Sparky
It keeps on going and going and going....
- David Gross
from email
In the Hall of Great Posts at the FriendFeed museum, this shall be hung high on the wall with pride.
- Johnny Worthington
I'M THE ROCK AND ROLL CLOWN.. AND I LIKE COCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINE
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
*Wispering to Murderface* "Seriously man, I do... A LOT of cocaine."
- Matt Stoddard
It is now September 1st, and this has not reached 1000 comments. I am sorely disappointed. Yet, for some reason, I am uplifted by the smile of this young man, who was fortunate enough to have such great friends that fateful day on the beach.
- Josh Haley
Quick let's add some comments... Gee that guy on the far left is not really getting into the swing of things is he?
- Travis Koger
Travis... bear in mind that we don't know what "main chubby guy's" right hand is doing, or where it's doing whatever it's doing...
- Mark "DerBingle" J
BUT WE CAN INFER WHAT "MAIN CHUBBY GUY'S" HANDS ARE DOING. BOTH OF THEM.
- Sparky
@Mark, of interest (well not really) is the location of Front Left guy's left hand.
- Travis Koger
The photo of Akiva in the jacuzzi with the Texas A&M cheerleaders would be so much more popular. Now if only someone would post it.
- Christopher Harley
Noooooooooooooooooooooo! Posted March 1st and we are still enduring the wrath! "Akiva's posts, now with more staying power than ever before!"
- Nicholas Kreidberg
YAY! OVER 1000 COMMENTS BLAAAARGBLBLLB
- Josh Haley
It feels like Groundhog Day whenever I see this.
- Andru Edwards
Except that unlike Groundhog Day this is AWESOME!
- Sparky
This thread was how I discovered Akiva. ROFL... Y.M.C.A.! BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP! GAZE AT IT! DON'T LOOK AWAY! >:O I SED DON'T LOOK AWAY!!! ... ^_^
- Danny Minick
You have nothing to fear - I never look away.
- Sparky
On Fark, there was this one thread, that just kept growing and growing. On Fark, it was a single page per thread. And you could post images and gif inline. Well the thread wouldn't die, people just kept posting. I forget which one it was. Anyway, it got so monsterous, that few people going to read/post to it per day (which was only a handfull) accounted for 1/3 of the server load of the site. They eventually had to cull that thread.
- Matthew DeVries
I think everyone who has participated in this thread has 'culled' themselves privately.
- Akiva Moskovitz
What with all the copycat images this has inspired I hope our muse continues to stick around and not get lost in the shuffle of so many knockoffs.
- Sparky
SHUT UP SPARKY!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!
- Andru Edwards
I refuse to shut up about the glory that is this thread. REFUSE.
- Sparky
Yes, Vezquex, I'm jealous of those guys, it is warm there, nothing like a warm beatch..
- David Gross
from email
Yes, Sparky, they do not know how good they have it there frolicking on the beach while we freeze up here.. Hard to believe it is only 49 degrees, feels like 29.. I bet it's at least 85 degrees on that beach.
- David Gross
from email
Anyone who doesn't appreciate this thread is clearly not developing a FriendFeed iPhone client because this is a great stress test case. (It crashes BuddyFeed, by the way.)
- Akiva Moskovitz
from iPhone
Also it exercises the crap out of your thumb trying to scroll down to the bottom of it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
from iPhone
Do you need to appreciate the pic in order to appreciate the thread?
- Travis Koger
If I un-collapse this thread, will it break my computer?
- Eivind
Every time this thread gets a bumped, god kills a kitten
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, you may have given some people more reason to keep bumping this thread.
- Victor Ganata
How does it give you thumb exercise? Whatever you're doing, why don't you either use the keyboard or switch to Linux so you can middle-click the scrollbar to jump to where you want? :P
- Tanath
actually this thread does not bother me because I get it in email and gmail groups them and starts new thread after every 100 comments. I have it autoarchived so I do not have to see on phone lol and just see when I look at my ffeed label in gmail.
- David Gross
from email
disgusting? HOW DARE YOU, SIR! That is j-love! and it's beautiful (in it's own way.. a way that shouldn't be seen in public)
- Kyle Johnson
this is probably the most popular feed of 2009 in FF. lol.
- Bora Mesut PALAS
I think the one where Robert Scoble gave away money easily beats this one, but this post has staying power. ;-)
- Jason Huebel
I think that Chinese at FF post was a marriage proposal thing. They were all trying to bump the guy's photo so that it would be the first thing his girlfriend would see when she logged onto FF.
- Kamilah Gill
On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me, 1 salty beach, 2 pairs of glasses, 3 lords a licking, 4 chubby men, 5 santa hats(O_o), 6 rolls of fat, 7 ????, and 8 moobs to view.
- Jimminy Fuller
Hey, I'd be willing to let random guys suck on my nipples if it meant I'd lose all my extra weight. *waits for wiseass random guys to suggest it DOES mean that*
- Spidra Webster
That look is normally for when you didn't want someone to take your picture. How you managed to it by yourself is just impressive. :)
- CAJ, somewhere else
THANK YOU. That is exactly what I was going for. We all know I have no shame. I just felt like participating.
- Josh Haley
It's like seeing my future, Josh. I CAN SEE FOREVER
- Mike Nayyar
funny.. days before they won they performed the song live on bbc5 live, where they "promised" the DJs that they'd censor the song. they did, for a few seconds. they managed to get 4 "fuck you i won't do what you tell me" through before they were cut off and the stupid bitch dj goes "they said they wouldn't. err, vote for the other guy"...
- Terry O'Fee
Y'know, what with American Idol especially, Simon Cowell has long since acquired more money than he could know what to do with. I'm not criticizing him for that, but I can only assume that his continued work on X-Factor post that, etc means in part that he genuinely likes the kind of pop music his contest winners push out.
- Andrew C
So the reality is: it's not that there isn't anything there that you actually learn and get smarter from. It's that you don't really care and so won't exert the effort to do so.
- Victor Ganata
Approach everyone you meet as if they were a wiseman whose purpose in life is to teach you something, and you'll learn a lot more. Even that annoying idiot in line in front of you at a store that you just want to strangle, has something to teach you, if you are willing to be open to it and learn. Even if all you learn is how to be a more patient, tolerant person, it's still a lesson...
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- April Russo (app103)
I don't know, I think there's a difference between being able to learn something from someone no matter what, and expecting everyone teach you something, and then insulting people when you don't like what they teach you.
- Victor Ganata
I do expect everyone to teach me something, but I don't let them know it, nor do I usually reveal what they have taught me. That's only supposed to be for me. These are private lessons. As far as insulting the teacher because you find the homework too difficult, pointless, or boring, the ones that do that are usually too busy complaining, listening only to themselves, to learn anything...
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- April Russo (app103)
Also, I think the real question isn't whether someone can teach me something. It's really do I really want to learn?
- Victor Ganata
You are right. Some people do seem to spend enormous amounts of time and energy going in the opposite direction, and even more do it just to stand still. But that's ok, as long as that is what they really want. It won't disqualify them from being my teachers, though.
- April Russo (app103)
Well said, April! Secretly, I'm learning from you :P
- Lo
=( I HAZ A SORRY!!! I've been in a rather Grinchy mood the past week or so, plus I've been trying to wrap up the family drama before Christmas gets here. Otherwise I'm facing the prospect of three family Christmas-es rather than the normal two, and I don't know if my brain can handle that right now...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
No need to apologize. We miss you. I have been a bit absent amidst my job searchings. It has been a bit difficult to find that Holiday spirit and cheer. But I persevered and did. Hope that both of you are well.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I miss her, too! I was just thinking about her yesterday.
- Rochelle
Well, there's the job search thing (which is demoralizing and dragging on forever and takes hours every day), plus the Christmas thing (which isn't as much fun when I don't have the funds to go find niftiness for my family), plus the family drama thing (which has the potential of just thoroughly trashing the holiday season). All in all I've been in about the worst possible mood and have just been stewing in my own misery for the past week or so. I'm trying to dig out of it, though... 2009 cannot win!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina I think Donuts and Coffee are in order. What are you doing tomorrow AM?
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Actually, I'm going to be on an interview call of sorts tomorrow morning, Gunny.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Hear Hear, WoH. Hi, Tina. Sorry you're feeling Grinchy, but so understandable. ((Tina))
- Micah Wittman
Sorry you're having traumas, Tina. I hope it all resolves itself so you have a peaceful Christmas - we'll be waiting here with the LOLcats and funnies :)
- WorldofHiglet
Even I couldn't do this about a month ago. But peristant effort and lots of time to waste saved the day. Yes, I'm a complete loser....
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
Always could do it, I'm all ...bendy LOL!
- cristina sasu
I used to before I had my son. I could do it on my index and middle fingers. A few weeks after delivering him, I found I lost that ability on both hands. Weird.
- Admiral Anika
@Adrian Me too. Adrian and Cristina, welcome to the group! ;)
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
:D A very weird group? Or is it just me who thinks that?
- cristina sasu
@Cristina @Anika Who knows, I think we're aliens and this is our special sign to spot our bretherens. O_o
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
yes, with all of my fingers. simultaneously, if i need to. my wife can do this as well, so it's a pretty safe bet that we've passed this trait on to our kids.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Yes, only that 1 finger on my left hand though. I broke that one when I was a kid and have been able to do that ever since. I can also bend the 2nd joint of both ring fingers, without bending the first. I can also easily lift the middle 3 toes on both feet off the floor while standing, without raising the big or little toes. I can also wiggle my ears and raise my right eyebrow (just not at the same time).
- April Russo (app103)
Possibile che non sappiate riconoscere un po' di sacrosanta AUTO-IRONIA? C'è gente che posta foto con mollette sul naso e mutande in testa, ma se lo fa una con le tette grandi significa che se la tira e vuole farsi pubblicità. Se avessi voluto fare la VERA figa, avrei messo una delle mie foto da modellona, non una con un mestolo in mano per andare...
chi ha le tette grandi??? mi sono perso qualcosa? :D
- cybergerac
come è andata con l'auto poi ? una Musa ??
- TelespallaBlog
Martina, se hai voglia di giocare su FF non dovresti prendertela per queste cose. Fa parte del gioco
- paolo landi
sapevo che questo post sarebbe arrivato. Mettiti l'animo in pace, sei nuova, appena arrivata e ti sei messa in mostra in modo "aggressivo". Indipendentemente dalla maliziosità delle tue intenzioni, le critiche sarebbero arrivate comunque. Anche Lyza ha subito lo stesso trattamento pur senza far vedere le tette.
- zisho
mi date il link di quelli che hanno aperto una discussione su di me che me la tiro che non riesco a trovarli? Mi hanno detto che c'è ma non la trovo.
- Martina Panagia
stavi andando bene ma se fai così perdi tutto. Fai tu :)
- cybergerac
io so chi è stato. Io so cose che voi umani e bla bla bla
- Francesco Contini
E' un po' il destino delle "burbe" in caserma... dai non prendertela, vedrai che pian piano ti farai degli amici. Concordo con cyber, "sbottare" è controproducente
- Cirdan il Timoniere
a questo punto vediamole le foto da modellona son curioso
- SanfredianinoDoc
c'è un sito apposito. Tutto in flash, per il mio dolore.
- Francesco Contini
Ma come? Si sa che attirano di più le ragazze della porta accanto che le modellone! :D cmq nn credo si parli di te in altri thread, ma anche se fosse.. lasciali parlare, che te frega?
- Alfredinik
non sbotto ma è assurdo che TUTTI possano postare foto stupide, ma una carina no. Non ho detto che ero modella o che lavoro in tv, avessi voluto menarmela avrei messo il link al mio sito. I miei amici gay si sono scompisciati dalle risate perchè hanno visto l'autoironia e la disperazione di spalare la neve con un mestolo e non le mie tette. Che poi ce le ho, e amen.
- Martina Panagia
Era un'opinione sul niente, comunque. Non è che abbia una qualche validità ontologica.
- Woland
@Martina: coraggio, Luca Bizzarri si è preso vetriolate peggiori, su. E' normale. L'ideale, comunque, sarebbe che tu postassi una foto con un cartello e Luca una vestito da modellone.
- Alessandra Muccinelli
Martì senza offesa, fighe ce se nasce non si diventa, e tu lo naqui! :-D
- DanielSan
@woland tesoro non quello, c'è ne è un altro molto commentato mi hanno riferito in cui si dice che sono qui per farmi pubblicità. Però chissà perchè ste cose non le scrivono sul mio profilo ma sul loro, mi viene il dubbio che quelli in cerca di iscritti siano loro.
- Martina Panagia
continua così con ironia, non ti difendere non hai nessuna ragione per farlo
- Maurizio Goetz
Martina, non prendertela, dai. Anche i miei amici gay si scompisciano dalle risate quando mi vedono spalare la neve col mio attrezzo :)
- pisquano
@massimiliano: nel senso che quando mando un mms a loro simile alle foto che ho postato qui loro ridono a crepapelle perchè capiscono che sto solo facendo la scema.
- Martina Panagia
ti ho preso talmente sul serio che oggi ho fatto il pieno alla macchina con il mestolo e un wonderbra coi calzetti dentro...
- PaGuru
Martina, sinceramente non sapevo neanche chi fossi! :D Ed ora che lo so non è cambiata mica l'opinione che mi son fatto di te :D
- Alfredinik
Oddio, FF per farsi pubblicità è il peggio. Semo quattro gatti, pure mézzi. (citazione musical-pisana)
- Francesco Contini
Ragazze acide, da quando essere carine è una colpa?
- Maurizio Goetz
E' che noi ignoti/e e stettati possiamo fare gli scemi sempre, che è la prima cosa che si nota, invece voi noti e/o tettati vi tocca del lavoro in più per far deviare l'attenzione sulle cose sceme che stanno dietro la facciata famosa o tettuta. Tutto lì, eh.
- Alessandra Muccinelli
io ho guardato solo le tette. avevi anche un mestolo? e per farci cosa? una volta ho fatto un sogno che centrava un mestolo, ma non penso che tu lo usassi per quello, o almeno non avresti fatto la foto. credo.
- dud
Martina, non te la prendere. C'è sempre qualcuno che critica qualcun altro, da queste parti. Davvero. Secondo me non bisogna dare alla cosa molto peso. Certo, poi se metti le foto da modellona mi tocca entrare in psicanalisi e ho già speso tutti i soldi per la crema rassoda-tette della Pupa.
- Dania
Le foto del tuo sito ufficiale sono molto belle
- Maurizio Goetz
@tutti ma soprattutto Francesco Contini: Sante parole. Ho più di 4600 amici su myspace e non ho bisogno di FF per pubblicità. Mi sono iscritta perchè mi avevano detto che questo era un SN di persone intelligenti, simpatiche ed autoironiche. Peccato scoprire che sono poche. Per l'esattezza, per ora solo voi.
- Martina Panagia
Ti fa bene stare in rete, se impari a concentrarti sulle persone che ti fanno crescere e ignori tutte le altre
- Maurizio Goetz
quindi praticamente tutti gli utenti di ff. siamo pochi, sai :)
- zisho
io non lo sapevo chi eri, oddio francamente non l'ho ancora capito
- SanfredianinoDoc
ecchec... proprio francesco contini? (che tral'altro ora vado a hidare, così impara) ma se ha settantanove anni e scrive con una tastiera apposta perchè ha il delirio tremens. metti anche gli altri nomi.
- dud
eh, che volete da me? sò tornato ora, mi s'è spenta la macchina nel mezzo del traffico e non si voleva riaccendere, son partiti i freni e fa un freddo boia.
- Francesco Contini
vado a tirare fuori la webcam dalla fondina, se non fate i bravi.
- Dania
FF non è meglio della televisione. I meccanismi che attirano sono gli stessi: sesso, discussioni stupide, la prova del cuoco, ecc
- Alessandro Ronchi
a francè, non fare il furbo con noi. dove sei stato esattamente? e perché il tuo telefonino era sempre occupato?
- dud
ragazzi davvero, io non sono nessuno. Qualcuno però mi ha riconosciuta o googlata e quindi sono girati link al mio sito internet (vedi sopra Marco Massarotto ad es) o altre foto che ho su my space. Per carità niente di male, ma qui su FF vorrei continuare ad essere nessuno, quindi please please basta con i link al mio sito :-( voglio solo fare la scema, e postare foto cretine.
- Martina Panagia
il mio telefonino chissà che fine ha fatto. Lo dimenticai nelle lenzuola di qualcuna
- Francesco Contini
@Martina. No veramente, guarda, quell'impressione lì (e le cose che ho scritto sul thread) ce l'ho avuta, però ho anche pisciato un po' sulla tavoletta. Pardon.
- Woland
C'è anche una teoria del complotto da mettere sul piatto
- Francesco Contini
@woland...il bizzari ha la carta igienica se devi sederti...
- PaGuru
Scusami Martina, hai messo nome e cognome. Se volevi essere nessuno mettevi un nome finto.
- Alessandro Ronchi
non potete davvero prenderla per come si presenta, con semplicità? Non siete molto gentili, dai.
- Maurizio Goetz
@Martina scusa ma chi ti ha detto che qui c'era gente intelligente? Io ad esempio ho 1587 iscritti e solo perché sparo cazzate a manetta, se avessi detto cose serie ed intelligenti avrei 3 iscritti, anzi no 4.
- Roldano aka Rotfl
secondo me è sempre la solita faccenda dell'urina sugli alberi, maschi alfa ( che nei social network diventano femmine dominanti, uterine e permalose) e territori da difendere. In fondo non c'è nulla di cui discutere.
- Ateleologico
Se Martina impara l'ironia per Dania è finita ;)
- Maurizio Goetz
Non è questione di intelligenza. Si capisce che sai di essere quel che sei (bella e alla ribalta), e ci scherzi su (ci fai autoironia). Ma dà fastidio comunque... del genere: ok, hai già tutto, lasciaci almeno "il nostro mondo", FF. Giusto o sbagliato che sia, secondo me è questo il pensiero di chi ti critica. Va aldilà dell'intelligenza, è un moto spontaneo dell'animo.
- Pepper Mind
@woland. Oh finalmete! Era il tuo allora il thread di cui mi avevano parlato. Eh bloccami allora, cavolo tutti possono fare autoironia tranne le tettone?!? E poi DAVVERO sono scesa alle 9 di sabato mattina per togliere la neve dal vetro. E davvero ho mandato l'mms ai miei amici gay per fargli capire la mia disperazione. Loro che vedono l'ironia e le tette l' hanno capito. Comunque non sono arrabbiata, solo un po' interdetta.
- Martina Panagia
io l'ho imparato adesso che è la ragazza di bizzarri
- Magari sul Tardi
@pepper non sono daccordo per nulla i SN sono strumenti per socializzare con chiunque se uno/a è famoso o meno non ha importanza
- SanfredianinoDoc
ti credevo un fake. Sei tu, e hai persino autoironia. Come diceva un famoso articolo degli anni 70: "autocritica compagni"..
- Roberto Chibbaro
In ogni caso il post di Woland ha un suo perché al di là del bene e del male.
- Francesco Contini
Martina non stai imparando, niente difese, ammazzali con lo charme ;)
- Maurizio Goetz
Tra l'altro mandare mms ai soli amici gay è assai discriminante.
- Francesco Contini
@SanfredianinoDoc: non ho detto che io la pensi così. Ho detto che secondo me non c'entra l'intelligenza, ma un senso di "pure qui?". Come la penso io non ha importanz,a io analizzo solo il fenomeno :P
- Pepper Mind
Possiamo lasciare fuori Luca Bizzarri? Ho per caso mai parlato di lui? Non si parla di persone che non possono leggerci, bambini cattvi.
- Martina Panagia
Oh 3 commenti al minuto, sembra quasi uno di quei gruppi criminali su FB
- Roldano aka Rotfl
Martina lasciare fuori Luca? Ma con questo freddo e la neve non si congela? No dai ficchiamolo dentro a questa bolgia internale.
- Roldano aka Rotfl
sono stato un pericoloso brigatista in un'altra vita
- SanfredianinoDoc
like a contini. e che sono sti mms discriminatori...
- niccolò vecchia
comunque vuoi siete tutti intelligenti. Voi siete quelli che hanno capito!! Io vorrei qui quelli che NON hanno capito...a parte Woland che ha fatto Outing. Dove sono dove sono? w il libero pensiero, ma almeno ditemelo in faccia. Tanto non me la prendo, sono superiore. (no, questa non è autoironia)
- Martina Panagia
niccolò, hai ragione, discriminatorio volevo dire, oltreché tautologicamente discriminante
- Francesco Contini
io ti ho commentato usando la mia di autoironia :)
- lapaolina
Davvero però far vedere tette ad un uomo gay è come mostrare un Van Gogh ad un cieco. Puro non sense :)
- Roldano aka Rotfl
Ma il mio non è affatto un outing, è quello che è successo. Ho visto due post, mi sembravano frivoli e ci ho fatto dell'ironia. Mi sembrano ancora frivoli. Ma non è che ci fosse quel sottotesto là, è questo che ci tenevo a chiarire, più che altro. Non mi interessa né la presenza né l'assenza di tette, culi, mestoli o neve. E quando ho scritto il post non avevo idea che fossi una *vips*, né la cosa ha alcuna incidenza. Qui tra vips e non vips cambia solo il numero dei followers, e non sempre.
- Woland
Una torna su FF e trova 'sto delirio di rompipalle. Per una volta che una gnocca vera mette due foto. Cioè: hanno diritto al narcisismo solo i cessi? Non ho capito. Detto questo, piuttosto, consiglierei a Martina di non sottolineare l'orientamento sessuale dei suoi amici come dato rilevante (a meno che tutti i tuoi "amici eterosessuali" siano persone prive del senso dell'umorismo, ma ti auguro di no). Benvenuta.
- Roberta Lippi
Martina ma davvero stai prendendo sul serio questo Circo Togni? o_O
- Roldano aka Rotfl
@sanfredianino. Eh sì non mi arrabbio, però ci rimango male. Cmq sto considerando anche l'eventualità di essere così una pessima cominca che mi capiscono solo in troppo pochi. Mannaggia ho avuto un'illuminazione: è colpa mia che non sono capace :-(
- Martina Panagia
menomale che ci siete voi che arsenal-hull city sono all'intervallo tra il primo e il secondo tempo e non sapevo che fare.
- Sally Cinnamon
Ora cambio il mio nick in "Maria De Filippi" e magari acquisto un po' di autorità
- Francesco Contini
eccomi Martina!! Sono una di quelli che ha pensato male di te dopo i tuoi primi thread...forse mi sto ricredendo (sarà l'invidia per le tette XD)
- Foxyanne / Rossana
le donne che guardano il calcio sono molto sexy.
- niccolò vecchia
Tutto sto casino per due ghiandole piene di grasso che producono latte :) Che strani gli Homo Sapiens
- Roldano aka Rotfl
Io trovo un po' triste fare 175 iscrizioni in due giorni per due foto, poi ognuno è libero di fare quello che vuole, postare le foto che vuole, fare quello che vuole del proprio corpo. Non sono bacchettone, è stata l'escalation e basta. Sicuramente non avresti avuto questo successo senza autoironia e solo facendo la stragnocca.
- zadigone
Si è capito che nel mio discorso le tette c'entrano talmente poco che Martina poteva anche essere un traslocatore di taranto con un chilo di uccello, vero?
- Woland
scusate ma cosa c'entra l'essere gnocca o non esserlo? Quello è un dato di fatto. Se ci si vede solo implicazioni sessuali in una foto, seppur scollata (complimenti che alle 9 di mattina sei già presentabile) vuol dire che si soffre di una certa carenza, se uomini , e di sindrome premestruale cronica, se donne.
- Ateleologico
@rolando!!! Ma no, sono cervelli. In qualche commento ho anche sottolineato che mi aiutano a risolvere le radici quadrate. Poi però mi sono chiesta che alberi potessero nascere da radici quadrate. Eh questo è uno di quei commenti che scrive una che se la tira, vero? :-)
- Martina Panagia
Zadi, se vuoi posto un chilo di cazzo. Non il mio, che dovrei aprire un mutuo, ma trovo il materiale in due minuti.
- Woland
No no non blocco nessuno, perchè dovrei? Per carità non negherò la mia eccezzzzzzzzzzzionale e brillantissssssssima comicità a chicchèssia!!!! Se non la capiscono mi blocchino loro :-)
- Martina Panagia
cazzeggio puro peccato che sia sabato sera, era meglio se succedeva di lunedì
- SanfredianinoDoc
Martina co sto freddo un bel flame ci voleva :) PS mi chiamo Roldano. Comunque il tuo si chiama Humor Inglese e da ste parti non è ben compreso.
- Roldano aka Rotfl
@Roldano. Perdonami, davvero. E' che ho imparato a leggere solo due mesi fa, ed a scrivere anchora facio un pò d' faticha
- Martina Panagia
oddio non scrivere così che si palesa Guia e qui esplode tutto!
- Roldano aka Rotfl
oh scusate mi sono persa gli ultimi cento-centoventi commenti, mi fate un riassuntino?
- Sally Cinnamon
Sally "Martina contro il resto del mondo", un film già visto tipo i cinepanettone
- Roldano aka Rotfl
anche a me un riassunto farebbe piacere. A proposito, piacere.
- Insopportabile
per Sally & Insopportabile: ragazza procace (da ora RP) spala la neve dalla sua macchina con un mestolo ed esce in mezzo alla suddetta neve con la scollatura al vento, rischiando la broncopolmonite. Comunica la cosa ad un gruppo di amici gay via MMS ed ai follower di FF con un messaggio. Qualcuno inacidisce ritenendo il messaggio della RP un fishing for compliments e parte il flame. Io...
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- stefano epifani
@stefano sei geniale. Però non so chi sia Guia e neppure cosa sia un RP. Tre cervelli ma funzionano malissimo a quanto pare, Non sono così avanti. non commettete l'errore di sopravvalutarmi.
- Martina Panagia
ah un'altra cosa. Ma perchè il post iniziale non si legge tutto? Troppo lungo e tagliato o cliccando da qualche parte si può leggere completo? Ditemelo perchè altrimenti devo modificarlo e fare una sintesi, ma per quello devo chiedere aiuto a Stefano che ne è il Re assoluto.
- Martina Panagia
Guia è Guia Soncini. Da quando ha scoperto FFpare che passi la sua giornata a segnare in blu ed in rosso gli errori di grammatica nei messaggi su FriendFeed. RP - come specificato all'inizio del riassunto - sta per Ragazza Procace.
- stefano epifani
è per quello che nascono i flame Matteo... i nostri caratteri sono limitati :-)
- Cirdan il Timoniere
allora continuo qui: "......per andare a spalare la neve dal parabrezza alle 9 di sabato mattina". Più o meno era così.
- Martina Panagia
MA RP non stava per Ragazza Popputa? Dalla regia qui mi suggeriscono altri significati, ma siamo in fascia oraria non adatta (in realtà sarebbe in fascia pro tetta, ma non volevo dare alito a doppi signi ficati)
- Roldano aka Rotfl
Comunque, Martina, fa' quello che ti pare. Questo non è un posto, ma un servizio. Ognuno usa iscrizioni, hide e block per fare di ff il cazzo che gli pare. Quindi fregatene di tutto e tutti. Sei una bella figa. Questo attirerà segaioli e rompiballe: praticamente il riassunto dei frequentatori del luogo. Poi tu selezionerai, gli altri selezioneranno, insomma, stai serena che andrà bene comunque.
- Matteo Bordone
Pippe mentali intendevo....................ovviamente bimbi cattivi e maliziosi non pensate male :-)
- Martina Panagia
:)))) .. adesso voglio un mestolo anch'io..dovè, ma porc..dov'èèèè..
- enreeko
Martina in realtà RP era Rizza Peni o Piselli oppure Ragazza Patonza. Qui sì che siamo sul volgare, ma anche latino se ci esercitiamo. Ah sì qui un riferimento http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Roldano aka Rotfl
Martina, hai un terribile difetto per i maschietti italiani: addirittura pensi. Non diventare troppo simpatica o la tua carriera è finita.
- Insopportabile
mamma mia che s'è scatenato... 169 commenti + 2 visibili! cmq machetefrega ;-)
- Lui(gi) ►►
@Insopportabile: non generalizzare... io preferisco quelle che pensano ...anche se ormai si contano(come si contano anche i maschi che preferiscono quelle che pensano), comunque riguardo la questione di Martina... se posso dire la mia... dubito che se la tiri...altrimenti non si sarebbe neanche iscritta a FriendFeed se era una che se la tirava
- Andrea Mazzilli
quelli fuori dalla scritta "Altri 169 commenti"
- Andrea Mazzilli
ah. L'avevo detto io che i cervelli hanno bisogno di una revisione. Mannaggia proprio ora che qualcuno aveva scritto che ero in grado di pensare....forza tette, concetratevi un po'.
- Martina Panagia
A sto punto però gli devi dare un nome ai due "cervelli", come la mitica imitazione fatta dalla Cortellesi (imitava quella romagnola del GF, giusto?) suggerisce. :-D
- Fabio Cristi
brava! così si fa! è dura nascere stragnocche. ^^ (non te la piglia' ^^)
- paolo beneforti
come ti capisco Martina........................essere fighi è dura...... :D
- reysharks
@Martina lol, mi hai fatto troppo ridere... ti voglio già bene!
- Lui(gi) ►►
che impressione... una ragazza con il cervello... anzi no.. con 3!
- Alfredinik
ma tu sei quella del caffè trombetta!!!!! (non fate battute sul nome del caffè....!! XD ) avevi na faccia "familiare"!!
- Enrico
Ok, non generalizzo. In effetti in Italia le donne sono considerate prima per il loro pensiero, poi per l'aspetto fisico. Come ho fatto a generalizzare? Comunque una donna dotata di autoironia è rara come e più di una intelligente.
- Insopportabile
oddio ci sono troppi commenti. comunque essere criticati è normale, suvvia. criticano me che ho le tette...figuriamoci te che hai le tette e sei della televisione. rilassati e cazzeggia.
- occhidaorientale
ahahahaah!!Martina ma in pubblicità ti hanno tes..ato veramente??=P (scusate se esco dal tema però 170 commenti sono proprio troppi....)
- Enrico
Martina, con tutto il rispetto, io pure c'ho le tette, ma se devo uscire con sto tempo e spalare la neve mi copro. Non sapevo chi fossi fino a ieri e, francamente, per me resti solo una bella ragazza che posta su friendfeed quello che vuole. Una reazione così potevi aspettartela, si ha sempre bisogno di qualcosa di cui parlare, ciao
- talentosprecato
Si potrebbe pensare di fare un film... "tette al vento" con la partecipazione di Martina Panagia, Luca Bizzarri io e tutti gli altri contatti di FF
- Alfredinik
io chiamo "i miei amici gay" : "i miei amici etero" e quelli etero "stronzi bastarti" ^,^
- Alfredinik
ma voi riuscite a scrivere la parola "tette" senza essere pervasi da una sensazione di felicità e serenità? e stiamo anche qui a discuterne!?
- DvD
Sì, ma va usata con moderazione come parola... Ci son controindicazioni
- Alfredinik
@Alfredinik like agli amici "etero" o "stronzi bastardi che siano" ;-)
- Lui(gi) ►►
@talentosprecato. Certo che gli amici gay li chiamo amici e basta, ma era per rendere meglio l'idea che se non si vedono solo le tette (anche se sono co-protagoniste), si coglie più facilmente l'autoironia.
- Martina Panagia
@Insopportabile: su questo hai ragione... infatti ho anche scritto che sono pochi i ragazzi che preferiscono quelle che pensano... diciamo che siamo una razza in via d'estinzione...
- Andrea Mazzilli
per me può pure pensare mentre le guardo le tette
- seymour caulfield
scusa non ci conosciamo ma mi permetto di dire che una cosa non esclude l'altra...una può essere figa e autoironica ma forse non ho capito granchè di quanto scritto sopra...ho sonno arretrato, prurito alle mani, e vari fastidi che proprio ora farò scomparire in un battibaleno...
- Alberto Botton
non mi piace ne accusare ne difendere nessuno a priori oltretutto persone che non conosco ... ma confesso che questo thread mi fa pensare tanto ad una piazzetta di paese quando arriva una bella straniera ... e poi sono abbastanza convinto che a martina sarà già capitato di trovarsi nella stessa situazione nella vita di tutti i giorni .. non aspettarti che la rete sia diversa
- Stefano iCimo
Peggio delle offese, sono solo queste battute a mezza bocca, comunque.
- Maurizio Goetz
avete discusso così tanto che non sò dove agganciarmi. Cmq Martina sono molto più belle le tue foto qui su FF che quelle del tuo sito ufficiale. Continua a usare FF per divertirti e per socializzare con i friendfiddari che sono gli utenti più evoluti o più dementi del web. Non arrabbiarti e non cadere nei "tranelli" chi critica è perchè ha voglia di criticare e di accendere una cosa che qui piace a tutti: il flame. Se lo conosci lo eviti :D
- EmaWebDesign
siamo abituati che gli uomini disprezzino ciò che non capiscono, lo diceva goethe, fattene una ragione... :)
- Andrea Casadei
foto con mollette al naso? mutande in testa? dove??
- ezekiel
Chissene dell'autoironia. Io voglio vedere le tette, non solo la scollatura
- Stefano Fasteno
Martina, scusa eh...ci hai dato delle persone poco intelligenti perchè non abbiamo commentato in tuo favore, ci hai dato dei cazzoni che si mettono le mutande in testa mentre tu, che sei una vera figa, potresti volendo farci scomparire sotto valanghe di foto da modellona, ci hai dato dei rosiconi poco ironici, hai vantato i tuoi milioni di amici su myspace versus noi poveri 4 gatti...guarda che non è proprio un buon modo di presentarsi eh!
- Laura_aka_Fujiko
from fftogo
ci sono varie cose che non capisco: se sei approdata qui perchè cercvi un SN differente, con persone più aperte alla conversazione, perchè poi i tuoi contributi più significativi sono un delirio di foto e qualche lamento che malcela disprezzo? ma poi che cazzo c'entrano gli "amici gay" non s'è capito: io sono donna ed etero, e francamente delle tette altrui mi interesso poco.
- Laura_aka_Fujiko
from fftogo
infine, e questo è il punto più importante: noi di mestoli, piastrelle, punti luce, tinte per capelli, occhiali e tazzine del caffè ne abbiamo già visti una valanga, non è che sei Eva la prima donna su FF. quindi se vuoi essere come le altre, aspettati di essere trattata come le altre. ci passano tutti prima o poi.
- Laura_aka_Fujiko
from fftogo
Con "i miei amici gay" sparato un po' così, d'amblè, Martina Panagia wins.
- asterisco
Oh, se c'era dell'autoironia io sono Rocco Siffredi
- bloggo
from iPhone
La parte più divertente è quando ci si scava la fossa da soli. "non sbotto ma è assurdo che TUTTI possano postare foto stupide, ma una carina no." -> "non sbotto, ma mi dà al culo che io non possa postare foto simpatiche perché sono carina mentre voi, che siete delle cesse scardate, se lo fate vi riempiono di commenti. Uffa!" :D
- asterisco
@Laura: Ti avevo preparato una risposta punto per punto sui tuoi commenti simpatici, così mi sono accorta che hai travisato praticamente TUTTO quello che ho detto e scritto nei miei commenti. Se a qualcuno interessano andrà a rileggerseli e vedrà che non ho MAI insinuato che siete dei cazzoni, o che io sia una vera figa, o che io sia EVA o le altre cesse. (??????) Bhè, Facile così,...
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- Martina Panagia
@martina / @laura : non te la prendere , troverai sempre gente così, tanto lei resterà della sua idea e tu della tua
- TelespallaBlog
@telespalla, sante parole. Hai ragione!!!! entrambe rimarremo della nostra idea :-)
- Martina Panagia
Ho provato a leggere tutti i commenti ma alla fine mi sono stufato...ti invidio la neve, non le tette (e quello non è un mestolo, sembra più una paletta...mo' arriva questa, fresca fresca e ci vuole cambiare i nomi agli attrezzi da cucina! ;) )
- joevanni99
dovresti postarne una all'ora...all'ora sì...
- armando
Problema: questa è la mia auto. Devo uscire. Scendo agguerritissima, ma armata solo di bottiglia d'acqua bollente ed arnese da cucina. Potrei uscirne sconfitta. Se non mi leggete in 6-7 ore è perchè avrò pure liberato la macchina, ma sarò accartocciata da qualche parte. (la foto da web cam era d'obbligo).
Spero tu non abbia gettato acqua bollente sui vetri ghiacciati... non è una buona idea... :) P.S. Uscire fuori al gelo con la pelliccia va bene... ma va meno bene con un decolletè così... :P
- Giovy
se ti affacci dal balcone così vedrai che la neve si scioglie. Se ti affacci dal balcone così si scioglie pure il calcare delle stalattiti, si sciolgono le aspirine nei bicchieri e i patti lateranensi.
- azael ماسيمو
Hai intenzione di spostare la macchina con quella paletta?
- reysharks
Con i due cervelli aggiuntivi ed il pellicciotto non avrai problemi a trovare qualcuno a cui affibbiare l'ingrato compito di liberarti la macchina... X l'accartocciamento, beh almeno cerca di farlo con stile: fai la fiancata a tutta la fila di auto parcheggiate. Con il pellicciotto si può fare tutto.
- Ateleologico
from iPod
monique, come darti torto... ma qui stiamo assistendo alla nascita di Carro 2.0: le pere di Martina tirano più di un pelo che tira più di un carro...
- Max Uggeri | iRev
si Max ma lei è una tizia famosa...più o meno... ma prima di Giovedì quanti followers aveva? è iscritta dal 19 novembre... ma penso che da Giovedì ci sia stato un boom... no?
- Davide TheSgrash
Martina, ma sono naturali? 3° coppa C? Oppure è una seconda col push-up?. Direi di tagliare la testa al toro e mostrarle direttamente naked, così ci facciamo un'idea più precisa...
- Vincio
Like per monique. Manco avessero visto chissà cosa...
- Napolux
vincio, forse una seconda con rinforzo. tuttavia, in base alla teoria del carro 2.0, ciò resterà sempre un mistero
- michelA marra
vincio, fatti spiegare un attimo le meraviglie dei "rinforzi" ;-)
- michelA marra
e cmq il vero detto recita "failure is ALWAYS an option"....ve lo garantisce un sistemista
- Alex - "M0rF3uS"
@Davide TheSgrash: se io avessi quelle pere, qui dentro avrei più followers di Luca Bizzarri.
- Max Uggeri | iRev
so so... infatti ho scritto seconda col pushup... ma in questa qui; http://ff.im/d3rBz c'è molto di rinforzato [e poi ti rammento michelA, che in quanto a bOOb sono un esperto]
- Vincio
bah, non voglio entrare nei dettagli ma vi assicuro che con certi trucchetti una seconda ti diventa una quarta...vincio, davvero? ;-)
- michelA marra
si, ma io direi una terza che diventa una quinta... comunque appena Martina ci mostrerà il suo splendido seno ci toglieremo ogni dubbio... :)
- Vincio
il punto non è la quantità, ma la qualità nell'esibizione. Avesse anche una prima scarsa, e si stesse facendo alzare il volume riportando le maniglie dell'ammore, l'espressione è tipo "Non so spalare la neve, e allora?". Sklenarikova reloaded.
- Max Uggeri | iRev
Se non avessi letto tutte le manfrine dei soliti ingrifati non mi sarei nemmeno accorto che questa ragazza è un personaggio 'noto'. Le foto che espone nel 3D sono normalissime, a mio avviso. Io poi non è che segua moltissimo la TV (immagino che abbia a che fare con la TV). Avevo penhsato semplicemente ad una ragazza alle prese con tanta neve... ed effettivamente.... quanta neve! Da me non se ne vede mai neanche un briciolo, altro che.. Buon frenfid a tutti! :)
- Seo (ignobile) Guru
Povera palettina delle uova, ho come l'impressione che ne uscirà distrutta.
- TeodoroSpazzaruffi
io stamattina ero uguale, con meno tette ma più paletta.
- lapaolina
@lapaolina ci stai facendo sbellicare dalle sganascate qui sul divano :)))
- Carlo Reggiani
sbaglio o quella che hai in mano è l'alabarda spaziale. Restituiscila a Goldrake sù. Per risolvere i problemi usa i "cervelli" sono la migliore arma.
- EmaWebDesign
Acqua bollente + vetro ghiacciato = 800 euro da versare al GlassPoint più vicino
- ganassa
guarda che se insisti in questo modo un bel mal di gola non te lo leva nessuno, eh.
- bloggo
son sana e salva!!!!paletta e acqua bollente hanno funzionato. Ma c'ho rimesso un tergicristallo.
- Martina Panagia
La bottiglia d'acqua è una chiara provocazione.
- Gianluca Neri
Certe cose le femmine non dovrebbero farle... :D
- Vincio
Ti leggiamo in sei-sette ore se scrivi tantiiiiiiiissimo.
- Matteo Bordone
@Martina certo che con "quell'arma" in mano e, soprattutto, con quello sguardo metti quasi terrore. Se non commentiamo come si deve ci sculacci tutti? LOL
- EmaWebDesign
l' avevo detto che sarei scesa agguerritissima.
- Martina Panagia
'mazza se scendi "tette al vento" per scongelare la macchina cosa fai quando devi scongelare un uomo? O peggio quando lo vuoi far rimpiangere d'essere uomo?
- Alfredinik
io son sempre dell'idea che tu non abbia il problema di tenere il riscaldamento basso o assente come noi altre
- talentosprecato
@Alfredinik LOL! Cmq l'uomo in "quella situazione" mica rimpiange di essere uomo :P
- EmaWebDesign
Se gliela promette e non gliela da, sì!
- Alfredinik
Il collo può essere sintetico, basta che il resto sia naturale.
- S.
ah comunque paletta e bottiglia hanno funzionato alla grande. C'ho impiegato 20 minuti a spalare la neve dal finestrino, dal lunotto, dal parabrezza e dal tetto, ma alla fine, sudata, ho vinto io!!!!! Avevo anche pensato di mettere la webcam fuori al balcone e farvi vivere l'impresa in diretta, ma poi nonostante i miei 3 cervelli non avrei saputo come realizzarla.
- Martina Panagia
A me sta cosa dei 3 cervelli intimorisce non poco.. Già una con il cervello mi da da pensare, figurati con tre
- Alfredinik
"Did a quick informal poll of my friends on Facebook tonight. I went through some the people I have meet in the flesh (about 70 of them) and only 14 had Twitter accounts. Most of the ‘normal’ people I know have knowledge of Twitter, but don’t use it or do not intend to. They want a deep social space with pictures, fun and popular culture. They don’t want to know someone has posted new photos, they want to see them. They go on Facebook as an activity, not use a tool. So, in my small sphere of if the world, Twitter is dead. Facebook has won. But Johnny, look at these stats and you don’t know what… BLAH BLAH BLAH… From what I have learnt, being a social media expert allows for lapses of logic and fact. My space may be a bath tub in a sea of fact, but why look over the sides when my the water inside my walls feels fine. I also plan to frequently tweet how dead Twitter is, just to stab the wound and convince myself I wasn’t wrong about joining Twitter back in January 2007 and banking my reputation on it. Twitter broke my heart, so the bitch must pay."
- Johnny Worthington
from Bookmarklet
I never use it so it might as well be dead to me
- VAL D. Zone
I disagree with this. While the vast majority of people I know are on Facebook rather than Twitter, the majority also really don't use either tool. More use Facebook, sure, but only 10% of my Facebook friends use it on a regular basis. I think "normal" people haven't really been won over by Facebook but rather don't truly use any tool.
- Brandon Titus
They could have come up with a better name. 'Cyber' is so 90s.
- Chrissie M
Guh, I'm annoyed. I know, childish, but I just got home and I want to see what I missed and it's down. D:
- Colette
Sounds kinda like "Giant Enemy Crab" to me. But that's because it's late here. I'll be heading for bed now *yawns* see you guys
- Kamilah Gill
here's the text from the hackers... (THIS SITE HAS BEEN HACKED BY IRANIAN CYBER ARMY ) U.S.A THINK THEY CONTROLLING ANF MANAGING INTERNET BY THEIR ACCESS, BUT THEY DONT. WE CONTROL AND MANAGE INTERNET BY OUR POWER. SO DO NOT TRY TO STIMULATION IRANIAN PEOPLES TO...NOW WHICH COUNTY IN EMBARGO LIST? IRAN? USA? WE PUSH THEM IN EMBARGO LIST ;) TAKE CARE
- Ankush Narula
Sing to the phrase of "Jimmy Crack Corn". "Twitter is down and I don't care, Twitter is down and I don't care. Twitter is down and I don't caaaaarrrrreee... the lists have gone away."
- Louis Gray
I like pie, too. We should hang out.
- Steven Perez
from IM
interestingly, Twitter updates are still showing up, with people complaining that Twitter isn't working =/ I guess there's a lag. or something.
- Kamilah Gill
I can't get to it via the web... but when you search for twitter on Google you can see the firehose is still pumping real-time to Google's servers
- Ankush Narula
When twitter was on a go slow yesterday I missed out on answering a @namecheap Xmas trivia question. Now it looks like I will miss this hours. *shakes fist*
- Chrissie M
I rather like lists, it enables me to see tweets by people who I'm not following in context with others in their location/field.
- Simon Curran
yes... lists are useful... when twitter isn't in the shitter...
- Ankush Narula
I find pie to be a bit hit and miss though.
- Simon Curran
"Can I add you on the website?" Wouldn't that be nice? This is the next step I'd like to see with PSN - more functionality when you're away from your console. That's one thing I envy 360 owners for.
- aldenoneil
The 360 web site and service in general is far superior to the PlayStation. In this case you get what you pay for.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks everyone, I'll have to write all the users down and log into the PS3 and *slowly* type all of them in. Chore, Sony, sort out your web site!
- Kol Tregaskes
See how it redirects to www.google.com/reader?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, my point is Louis's stats mean as much as mine do - there are way more factors that go into this, I agree
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, without demeaning you personally, this is false and ridiculous. FriendFeed is a domain, a specific one, and I chose the primary domain. Google Reader is a subdomain or directory, and you chose the one that, as you show, nobody uses. The Alexa data you showed for FriendFeed illustrated something that nobody is experiencing. This isn't gamesmanship. It's just wrong, again.
- Louis Gray
I have a hard time understanding the fights and points Jesse chooses to get into.....just baffling.
- Matthew DeVries
Jason - considering some use FriendFeed as a replacement for Google Reader it's not apples and oranges - they're competition.
- Jesse Stay
Really? Why on earth would anyone use FF over Reader? FF complements Reader but shouldn't supplant it. Is there really a constructive way to read rss feeds here?
- Jason Williams
Jason, many people do that - it always comes out when Scoble is threatening to leave Reader. It's also why your FriendFeed stats now show up with your Feedburner stats.
- Jesse Stay
looks like we gotta get louis to work more hours to get that chart moving in the right direction!
- Allen Stern
Amen Allen (that's the spirit)! I'd love to see more stability and more focus on core functionality, not the social features. More stats, more organizational tools, more sharing tools. Better UI. Less bugs. I would use it more if that were the case.
- Jesse Stay
Give me a better way to manage thousands of items a day and I'll read thousands of items a day. For now I've had to reduce my use due to how bulky and hard-to-manage it all is.
- Jesse Stay
for the record i rarely to never use google reader.
- Allen Stern
when friendfeed shows me full content RSS feeds instead of just title links, let me know. until then, I'll keep using Google Reader. that's the same notion that twitter is a replacement for it. I get it but it doesn't work for me.
- Bill Kinney
Jesse knows that I read more than 1,000 items per day and am connected to more than 1,000 people via shared item feeds. The graph above is not valid. Google Reader is a great complement to FriendFeed, and always has been. It's the vast majority of my feed. Reader is also, very flexibly, able to share to different sites, including Twitter and Facebook.
- Louis Gray
Yes, Bill. Jesse is just grumpy today. :) He knows better than to post data without any substance and try and get a faux argument going. He also is tempting me to post a SocialToo traffic chart and compare it to Twitter. :)
- Louis Gray
i think that louis and jesse need a "time out" - both of you to your respective corners for a juice box
- Allen Stern
No way, Allen! Not when there are great injustices in this world! :)
- Louis Gray
louis i just sat through 4 hrs of city council hearings at city hall - not once did google reader or friendfeed come up :)
- Allen Stern
Jesse, the difference is that Readers traffic isn't dependent on who else is also using it. As much as Google would like it to be, it's not a social tool. I can get my FF feed in Reader but not vice versa. Do you really get your "news" from FF? It's the same thing with Twitter. People try to make it a RSS replacement but it isn't no matter how much you want it to be. 140 characters might be ok for links and quick social commentary but in depth news, not so much.
- Jason Williams
Allen, but they did mention a series of tubes, at least in passing I'm sure :)
- Micah Wittman
*thinks of how to talk Jesse down from the ledge...* Jesse, Hi :) At best you are criticizing conventional wisdom web statistics in general and mixing it with a clearly flawed swipe at Reader. ### Now, carefully, come back from the precipice and live to fight another day.
- Micah Wittman
You guys are all proving my point - that this argument is just as crazy a claim as this one is here: http://friendfeed.com/louisgr... - you can't trust stats
- Jesse Stay
I use Feedly, which is off the back of Google Reader
- Ian May
Jesse, nobody has proven your point. The only point that has been made is that you made a mistake and tried to draw a parallel, and you failed.
- Louis Gray
Of course you can trust stats, Jesse. You just have to understand how they were collected, what they mean, and not try to use them to support some completely unrelated hypothesis. I've seen two graphs of US and global FriendFeed visitor stats that support two different statements... that US usage is down and global usage is up, respectively. The graph you've created for reader.google.com is irrelevant and immaterial, for reasons given above.
- Ken Sheppardson
I could be wrong, but a certain someone who pronounced FF as dead cited that new features in GR were going to kill it. Just sayin'. Also just sayin' - I'm with Louis on this one. The combination of Google Reader and Friendfeed have changed the game for me, bigtime.
- jcunwired
I'm probably in the minority but I have replaced Google Reader with FriendFeed. Pretty much for discussions like this one. I'm not sure I find the same value in Reader, I tend to bookmark and re-visit the same sites anyway. FriendFeed brings something to the table that a bookmark just doesn't. Reader, not so much. At least not for me.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
We need a UFC match between Louis Gray and Jesse Stay. The 9-lettered names of mayhem!
- beersage
I'd like to append my last post with, I still scan GR, so the previous comments about using GR and FF together as a powerful combination--in practice, if not in heart--I'm in agreement with.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
See what happens when I stayed in GReader (and some Twitter) all day, I missed a good thread. I read/skim a little over 1,000 posts a day, I'm not sure if I read more than Louis (42,597 items in last 30 days) but it's my information center. Friendfeed use to be my place for discussions around the news, since engagement has dropped here (for me at least), I've moved back to Twitter for a fraction of that engagement (FB for friends/coworkers/family).
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I never knew there was a reader.google.com
- Richard Lawler
Almost all of Google's (non-acquired) properties can do both whatever.google.com and google.com/whatever which is very smart actually.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
On the subject, I must thank Louis, Jesse and many others that act as filters on GReader BTW. When I don't have time to go through the bulk, these guys help bring the cream to the top. I try to do my part in filtering for others but I feel that it's a team effort to bring the signal to others as automated filters aren't smart enough (yet).
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Funny, I cut back on my usage of both services and the graph goes down. You can blame Scoble now. I don't use Google Reader anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Don't talk about yourself in the third person.
- Mark
I blame Scoble for the drop in the Twitter chart as well then. <smirk>
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
My use has gone down significantly and I'm seriously looking for the perfect solution to replace it. Hoping Seesmic or Tweetie or Tweetdeck do that soon. See: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
I now know Louis's Kryptonite - criticize Google Reader ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Robert, please don't leave Gmail, because I still need that. Thanks.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Jesse - I agree with your April blog post 100%. I also want to mention that Google Alerts is also a helpful tool for monitoring blog posts. (And without a doubt, most of us use it.)
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Jesse, kryptonite would weaken someone if it were their personal poison. I am not weakened by your inaccuracies and stubbornness. :)
- Louis Gray
Anyone know what Feedly's numbers are??
- Roberto Bonini
it is still my best organic conversational real time tool...
- Yann Ropars
Is this a trend?? The holiday season and all?? What about Feedburner stats?? If RSS usage (i.e for RSS clients) is in decline (unlikely) it would show up there.
- Roberto Bonini
manieles: feedly's content is generated dynamically in the browser so the metrics you are pointing to are just metrics of our blog (most users download feedly from the mozilla (and now chrome) sites. 2009 was a good year for feedly: we grew 1,527% from Dec 08 until Dec 09. http://twitter.com/edwk...
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Ah, I guess that makes my comment above moot. There goes that theory.
- Roberto Bonini
Sorry Edwin, just like reader.google.com the compete numbers don't show the story of true use.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
No problem Mark (it happens a lot). Roberto: Feedly is still relatively a niche service compared to Friendfeed and Google Reader so your theory could be correct. I do not have visibility into the Google Reader usage information but I can say that the underlying infrastructure keeps on getting better and innovating at a very fast pace. They have the foundation for a distributed...
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
Sounds like what I said about FriendFeed :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: Friendfeed is down but they are not dead. It all depends on if Facebook will decide to invest and move the service forward or not. If they do not, at some point Twitter and Facebook will have a super set of the friendfeed features and at that point their will be no turn around possible. Friendfeed sold out too early.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, Jesse is having an off day. Feedly is doing fantastically. Google Reader continues to have the #1 position in RSS and things are flourishing with their social features. FriendFeed has great technology and a fantastic community, but stalled momentum. Jesse should be in better form in about 5-7 days.
- Louis Gray
Would be interesting to see a metric that measures total number of posts having comments and likes versus total posts and compare that to the "glory days" of Friendfeed. How much different is the engagement now?
- Steve
Louis is basing his "FriendFeed is down" on faulty stats - that's the point of this thread. FriendFeed's just fine: http://staynalive.com/article... - I agree Reader and RSS are fine. So is FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
Steve, you can always use FriendFeed's advanced search to find 100 comments and likes posts.
- Louis Gray
Jesse, discussing this with you is getting boring. That post was wrong and based on data even worse than the public information I used.
- Louis Gray
Nothing on the Internet is dead until the servers are unplugged and the information is not cached elsewhere. There could be 1 unique user on a site and it still could be very useful for that one person.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Mark, that's correct. I covered that when I said I would still find value if I were the last FriendFeeder. What's frustrating about this nonsense of a thread is that Jesse made a mistake with his graph and continues to stand by it.
- Louis Gray
As did Louis (I'm not standing by this graph - I was making a point), and he continues to stand by his (about FriendFeed traffic being down)
- Jesse Stay
It is a waste of time. It also does not benefit me or the community to make high visibility of negativity around this site. That's why I posted what I did here previously, also knowing it tends to be written about and spun by other blogs.
- Louis Gray
I don't think Louis believes his graph is wrong - who's the stubborn one? ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Congratulates Jesse and his graph for making my best of day on FF. I am not a fan of Google reader. the graph looks accurate to me and the feedback I see of GR.
- Mike Nencetti
Jesse: I am confused. It seems that the point you are trying to make is that graphs are wrong in general and that both friendfeed and RSS are fine. Is that correct?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Jesse, I believe that Compete.com data is not perfect, but it is the best publicly available data that we have. I also believe that the trends it portrays about this specific site are 100% accurate. Your data showing Google Reader at zero is laughable and an embarrassment to your reputation.
- Louis Gray
Mike, this didn't make "best of day". It made "most obtuse of the day". :)
- Louis Gray
Jesse: which metric would you use to determine if friendfeed as a service is up or down?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
It is not showing it at 0 - it is showing it at very low.
- Jesse Stay
Google Reader's traffic is hidden within www.google.com's data. Dare I add iGoogle for RSS feeds into that picture as well. However, Friendfeed's traffic is not hidden (for US Traffic) in Compete's numbers.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Jesse relied on Alexa data (which is the ugly stepsister of Compete.com), and he suggested that Bret Taylor's graph showing a higher percentage of international users suggested growth, when, more accurately, it portrayed that US visitors fell away at a dramatic rate.
- Louis Gray
Louis: May be you and Jesse are looking at this from different angle and are both right
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Nah. Edwin, I will always support good data. :) This is bad data.
- Louis Gray
Louis, I never denied yours was based on US data. My point was FriendFeed was not down, which you claimed it to be.
- Jesse Stay
May be Friendfeed has a lot more persian users which are less active but nevertheless users. But over all Friendfeed has a lot less momentum and engagement because the early adopters have moved to twitter
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Jesse, I continue to claim that global traffic worldwide, including US and non-US traffic is down, period. And even if you were right, turning this into Orkut or Friendster is not a thing to be proud of.
- Louis Gray
Jess: the problem is that down is not as important as momemtum and innovation.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Louis, again, you're showing the wrong state re: Quantcast - click the "all" link and you'll see something more reflective. They're down in the short-term (at least in the US), but not in the long-term.
- Jesse Stay
There' nothing wrong with Alexa from a world view. Just don't mix numbers between Compete, Quantcast and Alexa. Compete clearly shows the US usage has dropped.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Louis, I never turned this into a comparison of Orkut and Friendster - where is this coming from?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, the short term is the start of the long term. You know better than this.
- Louis Gray
I am. Those are sites dominated by non-US visitors, contrasted with Facebook and Twitter.
- Louis Gray
Louis, I disagree the short-term is the start of the long term
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: One simpler question for you: do you think that there is a chance for friendfeed to regain momentum and flourish without an engineering team behind it?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, absolutely, but I think there will be an engineering team behind it eventually
- Jesse Stay
and there is an engineering team behind it currently, or it would not be able to handle the current traffic.
- Jesse Stay
Hmm. Do you have another example to point us to? Where will the engineering come from eventually?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Friendfeed is clearly transforming. It may gain momentum for a while until 'other services' catch up. However once a better wheel is made...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Edwin, absolutely not - there are numbers to prove it - whether it's still FriendFeed or transforms into Facebook, it will still be around, and serving way more than it is now.
- Jesse Stay
Facebook wanted the brainpower and that brainpower is not integrated into other facebook projects
- Edwin Khodabakchian
That brainpower is still keeping FriendFeed running at the same time
- Jesse Stay
That brainpower still believes in FriendFeed
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I would listen to Edwin, and Matthew Davies, and almost everyone else in this thread.
- Louis Gray
Facebook is in a hyper competitive space, those brains are working 150% on facebook projects
- Edwin Khodabakchian
You can clearly see that the FF team is porting features into FB, they are attempting to have a friend of a friend system similar to FF. IF THEY SUCCEED, FB has become Friendfeed.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Jesse, Bret is VP of Products at Facebook and working on Connect and the dev community which reaches 100x+ more people than FriendFeed does.
- Louis Gray
Louis I didn't say FriendFeed wouldn't transform into Facebook. I did say it wasn't going away and it would continue growing.
- Jesse Stay
But it is not growing, and that entire argument is dead right there.
- Louis Gray
It is growing, your argument is dead.
- Jesse Stay
I think that you are right that it is going to stay (that is a low hanging fruit) and it might grow in some geographies (like it does in Iran because of the network effect) and because it was ahead of its time in terms of conversation, the erosion will take longer but there is no doubt that with no engineering, it is a dead end.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
AOL is not growing but it's hardly dead. Wait, I'm on Louis's side on this...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
AOL is apples and oranges - if Facebook stops growing you can start comparing it to AOL.
- Jesse Stay
Mark, that's fine. I don't think there are sides. There's what's correct, and whatever Jesse is doing.
- Louis Gray
Or whatever Louis is doing - he seems to think he's correct, which he's not (now this is getting repetitive)
- Jesse Stay
Too bad the friendfeed team did not believe in friendfeed the same way Jess believes in Friendfeed!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, the FriendFeed team saw what we all see and sold at the right time for a fantastic opportunity.
- Louis Gray
I will agree to disagree with Louis - that's about the only way I'm backing down on this. I believe passionately in FriendFeed, and I see no reason it's dying.
- Jesse Stay
Edwin look at how much the FriendFeed team uses FriendFeed - they still believe passionately in the service. They believe so as much as I do.
- Jesse Stay
(and I never said it was dying, nor did I say I don't believe in what was built here) Go find me saying that anywhere.
- Louis Gray
I don't get what you are saying Louis - what is your argument?
- Jesse Stay
Start from the top. (And read your DMs). The graph you show here has zero validity and it is in no way relevant to the graph you are discussing from last week, period.
- Louis Gray
All I know is that public statistics lie. Paul B knows the real answer for FF, as does Jeff Huber for GReader stats.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Okay, so your argument is that FriendFeed is declining - isn't that the same as dying?
- Jesse Stay
If you get the flu, do you always die, Jesse?
- Louis Gray
If you lose 20 pounds, is it guaranteed that you will eventually hit zero?
- Louis Gray
Louis, okay, whatever - I see no reason it's declining
- Jesse Stay
Then you are being naive and ignoring all the public data, plus anecdotal data from this site itself.
- Louis Gray
The FF sale is more than a flu, it's a handicap scenario. It makes it harder to see a perfect future.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Louis: I am not sure that facebook was/is a fantastic opportunity for the friendfeed team. Facebook connect is awesome but this space is still at its infancy and I am not sure that the centralized facebook/twitter model will be the model of the future. Friendfeed had the advantage of understanding search really well and being distributed at its core - great asset!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Louis, not naive at all - I shared the public data publicly on my blog, showing backed evidence the site is still growing. Where's your rebuttal? Do I have to show this again?: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
Using your links in your article, Jesse, Quantcast topped out in August and has fallen significantly since. And we already noted that the Alexa data, which is the outlier, shows a small upward trend.
- Louis Gray
Louis, your argument is it's falling short-term. My argument is that it's growing long-term. My data supports that. I'm definitely not naive and frankly I'm beginning to be offended you're calling me that.
- Jesse Stay
OK. Good discussion. I think that Louis and Jess should go get a beer and huge each other. Time to go write some code!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Yes, if you put the calendar back far enough, the trajectory is upward. Of course it is. And Edwin, I can't get Jesse to drink beer.
- Louis Gray
I agree that if you go over a 2 year calendar, traffic to FriendFeed has increased.
- Louis Gray
I guess I missed something... I've seen (1) Quantcast and Compete charts of US reach/visitors which says domestic use is down (2) an Alexa chart that says international use is up (3) a comment and accompanying chart from Bret saying "international growth has started to completely dominate since August (4) a pretty significant shift in the FFholic Most Active user list to international users, and (5) lots of anecdotal evidence from English-speaking users saying they've seen reduced (or stable) activity.
- Ken Sheppardson
...is somebody taking exception to any of those observations?
- Ken Sheppardson
But the entire thread originated with the Google Reader flat line, which was a mistake.
- Louis Gray
Yeah, I think everybody's just trying to ignore that at this point ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I just don't get why Jesse's trying to make this you-can't-believe-stats/charts argument. I think there's something in my list of 5 point that Jesse thinks is wrong.
- Ken Sheppardson
Jesse doesn't believe the Compete or Quantcast data showing a decline.
- Louis Gray
I don't think I ever agreed the above graph was correct - it was put there to show a point
- Jesse Stay
So you believe US usage is up, or not declining, Jesse?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, I didn't mean you can't believe them - I mean they can often be deceptive
- Jesse Stay
Which is amusing, because the blue line here is identical to the same blue line I posted last week.
- Louis Gray
So Google Reader is going to be like GM?
- Jesse Stay
Ah... sorry... a light bulb just went off... showing a chart that shows US traffic is declining is deceptive in that some people who look at it might conclude that's overall activity, when in fact total, world-wide activity is steady or increasing.
- Ken Sheppardson
That's one of Jesse's theories, Ken. (Still doesn't explain the Google Reader non-sequitir)
- Louis Gray
If Google Reader is like a Unicycle, it's like the Honda's U3-X..... a very cool one!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'm starting to piece this together... so showing reader.google.com traffic is declining when in fact total Reader traffic is up... ?
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd agree with that theory. The World growth is outpacing US internet growth.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I just took a look at the graph at http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... Turns out that although international reach is up as shown in your graph, Jesse, Alexa shows a 20% or so decrease in their pageview graph since the peak near August. More users spending less time...
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, that is short-term though, which was another point of mine. Long-term they still have an upward trend. It is still much too early to determine if they are declining yet. Maybe in 6 months you guys can all show me I'm wrong.
- Jesse Stay
Facebook bought FF in Aug, that throws a trendline in completely different direction. It's an inflection point.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Mark, FF took a dip after that, but they recovered and went even higher than before the FF acquisition. I wouldn't call that an inflection point.
- Jesse Stay
Which chart shows traffic higher than before the acquisition (not counting the spike after due to curious people who never heard of FF before they read it)? Are you looking at Alexa's "Reach"?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yes, Mark... Alexa's chart of international reach shows that the % of worldwide internet users who are visiting FriendFeed is up. It's also the 47th most popular site in Turkey, 227th in Italy, and 412th in Pakistan. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Mark, correct, which is more accurate because it compares visitors globally, not just US
- Jesse Stay
In fact Alexa says 20.7% users are from the US and 20.6% are from Turkey, and another 20% or so from Italy, Japan, and India combined.
- Ken Sheppardson
Right but the question would be what were those percentages between countries back in August? A shift in demographics needs to be adjusted by online population in those countries.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
There's roughly 74M people in Turkey. For every 1% drop in US visits, about 4% would automatically gain for Turkey in the Pie Chart without a single new user in growth.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I don't believe they're breaking out the % of users in each country that are visiting FriendFeed, they're talking about what % of FriendFeed users are coming from each country.
- Ken Sheppardson
Strongly Disagree. Look at my coupon work site: RedPlum.com 92.2% are from the US. I highly doubt I have that much audience but I'd love for it to be true.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Disagree with what, Mark? That stat means for every 100 people who visit your site, 92 are from the US.
- Ken Sheppardson
Sorry, I misunderstood your comment. It's a pie of % of FF visitors are coming from which country. We are on same page.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yeah, sorry... I switched from "reach" to the user breakdown midstream there.
- Ken Sheppardson
So as I was saying, a 1% drop in US visits moves Turkey up 4% when you factor populations and no new additions.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
To tie that together with Compete's US view, the US audience dropped 20% in last 90 days so Turkey would naturally rise in the pie chart regardless of new user growth from that country.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Actually digging that information a bit more, only 21.1% of the Turkey population uses the internet so the spread would widen even further.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
What a ridiculous discussion! It has already been said: the stats are apples and oranges. Let's look at the comparative numbers for internet users who are brain-dead versus those who can type. It would appear graduation from grade school bans internet access.
- Douglas Hopkins
Unfortunately, discussions here have gone south... Vocal users have moved to twitter, but there discussions are lost. And then, there's facebook -IFAIC, I try to keep it "private"...
- Panayotis Vryonis
Nope, *plenty* of discussion here. It's when you're not around that you miss it.
- Itachi
There was an article about how FF's quality has gotten better recently. I don't see it either, which brings a tear to my eye. We had some great, deep discussions on topics over here. That was Friendfeed to me, it was deeper engagement.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
And I can't give Scoble all the credit but clearly he was part of that...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Where DID Scoble go?!... things have gotten awful quiet.
- Thom Kennon
He fell in love with Twitter Lists and gave up on FF after Facebook acquired...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
*wonders if he has transformed into chopped liver*
- Morgan Haley
What kind of discussions are you looking for. We've been talking about the best Robin Hood all morning!
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
I agree. Little discussion here and every one I generate takes root elsewhere. I occasionally join one here, but conversation on FF has dwindled in everything I see.
- Ken Camp
See here's the problem I see here: There are people that I have rarely, if ever have seen in this thread. Dave Winer is a guy who is famous in the social media world. People often sign up and follow the feeds of Winer, Scoble, and the like and that's all they see. When Scoble leaves and others, they agree with them for saying FriendFeed is dead. However, to the contrary, it's very much...
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- Itachi
I think for some of these people if you aren't a techie, your conversations aren't that important. That's one thing I've noticed that has changed on FF. There is less of some things, but a lot more meaningful interaction among the people who have remained. The people still here are the ones who value a different type of personal interaction. FF is still very active and alive.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
dave - everyone moved to social median
- Allen Stern
I think there's a big difference between "tech" and "social media". People like Scoble often mix this up. There is plenty of "tech" discussion on Friendfeed. And I agree, with Junebug on that respect as well.
- Itachi
Maybe we just aren't talking about what you want to see? Your FriendFeed != My FriendFeed :)
- Johnny Worthington
Once again, the color of the speech bubbles are very telling here. Morgan, Micah, Johnny, Allen have blue. People I'm subscribed to. Names I recognize. The rest of you? White. What are you guys subscribed to, exactly?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Bingo, Rah. The less than active tend to be subscribed to only the A-listers of social media who they are familiar with. And who, alas, aren't active on Friendfeed.
- Itachi
the italian section of friendfeed is quite vocal...
- Alb.
The problem is Dave that many of the tech influentials, CEOs, programmers, journalists, etc spend their time elsewhere now. There are conversations but they are dramatically different than what were happening six months ago.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I think Itachi said it best earlier. The influentials and the like were the common glue (or routers so to speak) that joined various circles together. The routers are now gone, so now we are left with disconnected LANs. Each hold their value to that island but there much fewer bridges any more at least for the technical community.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
There are still some very interesting conversations that happen here - you just have to be subscribed to the right people. Follow some of the OpenID guys (Micah mentioned a few) - there is still a lot of conversation in that area that goes on here. It's a great conversations medium, much better than Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
I would argue many of the developers and programmers who used Friendfeed are still on here. Just because it's not the hot fad of the season doesn't mean it's dead. Slashdot isn't covered much by the social media kings, yet it's still alive and well.
- Itachi
Entries on my home feed with 3 or more comments: http://friendfeed.com/search.... You're welcome to modify the number to come up with your own definition of "discussion"
- Benjamin Golub
my FF has slowed down recently - people I used to have regular discussions with are either not as active, or not at the same time I am... as a result I use it less, and it probably trickles like that
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I think those people who formed a unique community on FriendFeed are noticing less of a change because their community is staying here. Those whose community exists outside of FriendFeed and merely uses FriendFeed as one channel of communication may find more volatility because it's easy to shift to the latest thing. Dave, as someone deep in the tech industry filled with early adopters (and early abandoners) your FriendFeed may be more adversely affected than others like myself.
- Kevin Fox
Dave subscribes to only 122 people -- maybe he needs to broaden his horizons?
- Brian Sullivan
My feed has never been busier, and I'm getting new subs every day. Of course, I'm not very techy so if you are, our paths might not cross.
- Derrick
Building on Benjamin Golub's search: here's the same thing, but for friends of Dave Winer: http://friendfeed.com/search... Looks like a bunch of discussions, several in the last couple of hours.
- Mark Trapp
I think everyone nailed it on this one... FF is no longer the holy land of social media zealot discussion, but has retained a very real connectivity to it surrounding non-tech and some-what tech individuals. IMO, Scoble and the like are not the celebs of current FF, but true wonderful characters like Derrick are becoming them in their absence. If left alone long enough this place could really be cool.
- SAM
Not all discussions are in the main feed either. There's a ton of active groups.
- Rodfather
Kevin should win an award or something for clarity of thought. And to throw in my two cents behind many of the others here, my feed is nuts. I often have to rely on a subset list along with RSS notices just to keep up. Also, unlike the last few months, I'm starting to see a lot of new subs recently. My guess is that FriendFeed is not dead; it was just tired after a long squawk. Seems to be perking up quite nicely now.
- Akiva Moskovitz
+1 Rodfather. Group discussions don't show up in the main feed unless someone cross-posts to their personal feed. Also, techy discussion is fairly limited these days, for the reasons previously mentioned. Mostly it's discussion about our personal lives, work or some article that may be about tech gadgets, but isn't really a technical discussion.
- Jason Huebel
Oh, and for one, I would like to see more tech-oriented discussions here. Sure, I'm all about the hyper-hangout that FriendFeed has become but I also miss the hardcore geek-outs that used to occur here. And I just seriously can't get my head around people having the same quality discussions about tech on Twitter that we used to have here.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Yeah, it's not possible to have a discussion on Twitter. I've posted some tech-oriented things recently and I'm beginning to move more toward geeky stuff in general, but a lot of my geekier discussions are in groups that don't make it into the main feed.
- Jason Huebel
I actually think the conversation streams and peeps have diversified from more hardcore tech to more cultural, art, cooking! not a bad thing. just a different tone and nature of the conversations. i still like that quote from a FF denizen who said "Facebook is where i hang out with people i already know. FriendFeed is where I hang out with people I'm getting to know." Speaking of FB -...
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- Thom Kennon
Dave, let's back up here... Looking at your feed, 99% of your posts are just imports from other services (mainly Twitter). Then you hop over to FriendFeed and say "why doesn't anyone discuss anything anymore?" It's because you aren't participating here. Gotta give something to get something. Commenting on your own Disqus imports isn't participation, either. I think the fact of the matter is that people don't feel an obligation to feed the geekeratti egos now that they've all but abandoned the service.
- Jason Huebel
The last reply you made to a post that wasn't your own was back on December 1st (http://friendfeed.com/chrisme...). Two weeks ago! And you haven't even replied to this post, which you made 3 hours ago.
- Jason Huebel
I also appreciate the fact that a large majority of users are having discussions in languages OTHER than English.
- Johnny Worthington
It's an elegant social network for a more civilized age.
- Goran Zec
Because it counters the thinking (or lack of thinking) of a few social media experts that places like FriendFeed and Twitter and other social networks only exists in western, English speaking countries...
- Johnny Worthington
Not everyone has an iPhone, not everyone can watch Hulu, not everyone can play Foursquare, not everyone has unlimited (uncapped) bandwidth, not everyone wants to know the news the second it happens, not everyone cares who someone reads and not everyone wants to talk tech 24/7. I like it outside the bubble :)
- Johnny Worthington
Maybe I do need to follow more people, but with the same number of followers there used to always be something interesting in FF to read about and comment on.
- Dave Winer
I also love the non-English. gives the place both a global feel - and reality. I have peeps, clients, etc. around the world and FriendFeed is our agreed great leveler.
- Thom Kennon
People you used to follow here have moved on to Twitter. Not many techies around these days. This leaves the rest, regular guys talking about regular stuff. But maybe this kind of discussions don't interest you.
- Jordi Soler
It's like a garden, if you don't tend to the garden bed, weeds will grow. If you don't prune your roses, you just have dead twigs.
- Johnny Worthington
@Thom and Johnny, I participate in the non-English posts fairly often. It's easier with FF Translate, even though I can only reply in English (and hope they can read it). Hey Micah, any chance you can make a translate thingamajig that goes the opposite direction? Translate my English to the language of the post?
- Jason Huebel
Jordi there are still a lot of Techies - follow Dewitt Clinton, myself, Chris Messina, Dave Recordon even some times participates. Then there's Paul, Bret, Benjamin, Kevin, etc. of the FF Team. Cristo's a techie. I could go on and on...
- Jesse Stay
In fact I probably participate with more techies than non on here.
- Jesse Stay
There are a ton of conversations here and some are tons more interesting than others. This one is interesting. The question is though if you are not having a conversation here - where are you hanging out lately?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Dave, I've been following you since at least 1995, and long before Friendfeed and Twitter. It was because of you that I heard about and joined Friendfeed and I regret the fact that it's lost its momentum since being absorbed into Facebook. There is still no substitute for what FF used to be. But the circus has left town now and there is no way of bringing it back. FF will continue and...
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- Tim Ostler
@Jesse: Perhaps I don't follow the right people then. Anyway, it was not a complaint, it was just a theory of what has happened to Friendfeed recently. More international content (myself) and more "social" posts. Which does not mean that there aren't any techies left. I'll follow your recommendations, thanks!
- Jordi Soler
I blame Facebook for all problems related to any lack of participation over here (j/k)
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Although "blame" is a harsh word, the Facebook acquisition was a significant turning point. Whether that's a downturn or not is debatable, but that's when most of the tech-elite skipped town. I admit to feeling down-in-the-mouth occasionally because I miss the technical involvement of the FF devs. But there is still a lot of good discussion here. It's just not as technical in nature.
- Jason Huebel
Discussions are not missing. They're just harder to find.
- Louis Gray
Jason, it's worth a good hard think and discussion. Posting translated text is a thornier issue (thinking form the POV of the tool maker). It commits to record an imperfect source, with any successive translations further degrading the signal (copy of a copy). Maybe I'm overly concerned about it, but like I said - needs more discussion. Thanks for getting the ball rolling :)
- Micah Wittman
@kr8tr tried to hold a 30 min real-time Q&A yesterday via Twitter on "What's it like to be Scoble's boss". I bailed because little way to follow. Twitter search on "@kr8tr" kind of worked but you had to keep refreshing. Google search a little better. But it would have been ideal had he announced it on Twitter (where everybody is) and then pointed to Friendfeed for the Q&A. Not sure there's a better platform for that kind of rt discussion.
- Nick in Manila
Another prob with Twitter in above context is everyone is using different Twitter apps that regurgitate the firehose at different rates so some people see comments much later that others. On Friendfeed, the sequence is at least consistent across participants.
- Nick in Manila
Dave, you might need to broaden your interests.
- zeroinfluencer
Nick: I agree. One little datapoint, though. Since Facebook bought FriendFeed I've gained 14,000 followers on Twitter. That is more followers than all but five people on FriendFeed have. The reason Twitter is popular is, well, it's popular. I'm sad that FriendFeed lost out, but it did. Oh, and Facebook has similar threading to FriendFeed only you have to refresh the page to see new...
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- Robert Scoble
Robert, with the 14,000 new followers, is that a spike or did it follow natural upward trends?
- Johnny Worthington
Johnny: it's definitely going up faster lately due to new list feature.
- Robert Scoble
So do we assume conversations are "dying"? (Hate the word, every once in a while something "dies" in the internet...)
- Jordi Soler
It would also be helpful to evaluate the level of conversation that was here and has now left. Quantity != Quality
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
For each of us it depends who we are following and who is following us, and whether people with interests in discussing certain things overlap in time sufficiently with you to get a conversation going - I guess I need to change my follow profile
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
There's 59 comments and 32 likes on this thread. What are you looking for exactly? That said, I tend to read only the 1st and last comment in these long threads.
- Vincent van Wylick
Vincent you got me there. Of course I knew there would be 33 likes and a zillion comments on this when I posted it. I am such an unreasonable person and you could see that! Your mother must be so proud of her little Vincent. :-)
- Dave Winer
thats why i am out of here and spending my time in boredom ,reading or sleeping
- ffcode
Vincent, the reason there is so much activity on this thread is because the topic is Friendfeed, specifically lack of activity on Friendfeed. People will flock to a topic if they can prove it wrong.
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
@Jason, that's a kind of cynical view, don't you think? This is a topic that's of common interest to everyone on FF. Most other posts are only interesting to smaller groups of people. That's not a bad thing. I think there is just a wider array of topics to talk about on FF now that tech evangelists have moved on. So the activity is spread out.
- Jason Huebel
And again, looking at your feed activity, you spend very little time interacting with others on FF. Most of your activity is importing from Facebook. So your experience isn't going to be as good as someone who actually shows interest in the posts of others here.
- Jason Huebel
I wasn't saying there aren't conversations to be found but I'm talking about his experience. He wasn't seeing any interactions on his posts until he posted about FF. Make your own conclusions.
- Jason Williams
Which is why I said "again". Dave Winer's interaction with other people's posts is minimal as well. He comments on his own posts all the time. But you'll never start a conversation if you only talk to yourself.
- Jason Huebel
Dave has obviously not visited the Life Scientists room :)
- Deepak Singh
it's a hard sell when you can't engage with your own content, for sure. I'm trying to be better at adding commentary as to why I thought it important enough to (re)post what I (re)post rather than leave it to a bunch of bots to aggregate/shovel it out.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
But he did start a conversation, it's just that it was about Friendfeed so others joined in. Go look at best of day at any time and you'll find multiple items about Friendfeed. It doesn't bode well for a service if the most popular activity on that service is about said service. If you looked at Twitter and saw half of the trending topics looking like (Twitter fail, twitter is dead,...
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- Jason Williams
Jason, I don't comment on my own posts. That's the second time you said it, and you're wrong. I hooked up my Disqus feed to FF so you're seeing my comments there echoed here. Stop being such a wiseass, you're not half as smart as you think you are.
- Dave Winer
I'd love FriendFeed discussions. You can't have them on Twitter because of the lack of threads and you can't keep track of everyone's message. One of my biggest issues with Twitter.
- Patrick
from twhirl
Ah, nice. Name calling and insults. But you've just proven my point. The "comments" are also coming from somewhere else. You expect to have people interact with you but you invest very little time in FF yourself. If you put even a small percentage of effort into FF that you do other services, you might actually see results. It's no longer good enough to import one's feeds into FF and expect people to pay attention. That ended when many of the tech elite left the service back in August.
- Jason Huebel
The truth is, the people left here on FF are mostly "little fish" when it comes to tech. So one really can't expect to get 1000 likes and 2000 comments on a post anymore. None of us have a "fan base" that can support that.
- Jason Huebel
I don't expect anything -- I asked a question.
- Dave Winer
I think Friendfeed is evolving into something quite different of what some people predicted a while back. But it's not dying, no way.
- Jordi Soler
Except when I'm addressing the issues I've pointed out with your feed, when I say "you", I'm using that as people in general. I can change all the you's to "one", if that will clarify. (Done.)
- Jason Huebel
Jordi, what is your definition of dying? Is it different than people leaving en mass (with the exception of non-english speaking countries) and the talent behind the service bought up by a mega-site all the while people arguing weather the service is viable/dying?
- Jason Williams
Good point. Dying as in "Geocities dying". But I see people talking about many things everyday. Just not the same topics there used to be.
- Jordi Soler
OK wait, Dave. First you claim that there are no discussions on FF. Then you say you don't comment on your own posts. The way I was brought up was that a discussion is when you say something, then other people respond, then you respond back, and so on. FF, like most anything else in life, is what you make it. If you don't interact with people here, then you have little basis for complaining (sorry, _observing_) that there are never any discussions here.
- vicster is...
I don't understand why people think the convo on friendfeed has gone down hill. It is the same if not better then it was before. If you don't like the discussions from the people you are following then find some new people to follow.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
i dunno about other people, but my FF is jumping so fast lately that i can barely keep up...and now it's mostly things i DO want to read about.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
vicster+++ I just skimmed, but this dude sounds like he hasn't been skiing for three years and says "how come no one ever skies anymore?" If you came to the FF mountain once in a while, you'd see my crazy ass every freaking day. I use FF more now than I ever have, more than I ever dreamed I'd enjoy. Now maybe you think the mountain has been taken over by hooligans, and that may be a fair point, but the caliber and content of my discussions do not make them non-discussions.
- Lo
My conclusion, based on this thread, is that there is indeed some discussing going on on FF. Mostly of the "Neener neener" variety. :-)
- Dave Winer
You can't base your conclusion on one thread of conversation with a topic like this. Why don't go and look for other people to follow and you'll see some activity.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Well, sure. You called us out. So there's going to be a bit of that. But in all honesty, there's a lot of good people here with a lot to talk about. You just have to seek it out.
- Jason Huebel
When I said "Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?" I was (in case it wasn't totally obvious) looking for suggestions not lectures. I'm now following Alex Scoble. I check FF many times each day.
- Dave Winer
Woo! I finally hit the big time! Seriously, though...thanks for the subscription, Dave. Much appreciated.
- Alex Scoble
If the FriendFeed community were not so oversensitive, one of the 100 comments above would have answered Dave's question by pointing him to the advanced search form, specifically the "at least _ comments" field and the saved search feature. Then he could quickly find discussions on his favorite topics every visit.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Bruce: That was the 23rd comment, from Benjamin Golub. How more/less oversensitive does that make us? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Good point, Ken. I searched for "advanced", "comments" and one other term, but didn't find that one. It makes the community 34.7% less oversensitive.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Friendfeed and Twitter lack the depth and breadth of Facebook, no matter which way you slice it. Gather the best minds of our generation, in many fields and areas, on Facebook, and you will not have to complain. Friendfeed and Twitter are, however, useful as secondary feeds into Facebook.
- david beckwith
FriendFeed still saves my stuff, unlike Facebook where my posts are lost in the ether, but I do miss the more active FriendFeed of times past. I think once "best of" became a standard feature, FriendFeed shifted to more family, personal life, etc... discussions rather than "tech" stuff (for better or for worse). Even for techies, new/lost jobs, new/old romances, etc... generated more feedback & discussion than most tech topics.
- Mitchell Tsai
Google Reader is seriously broken - it shares other items when I click share on one item. It shows other people's avatar instead of mine. Scoble's argument of switching entirely to Twitter or FriendFeed is beginning to be more convincing to me now. It's been this way for months now and no changes!
when I click on "all items", this error message appears: You don't have permission to view this feed!!!
- Zahra HB
And let me guess .. support hasn't been very helpful or responsive!!
- Chris Myles
Chris, look above. You can see a near-immediate response from Mihai Parparita, who works at Google Reader. That looks helpful and responsive to me. Kudos.
- Louis Gray
Louis: +1 Mihai, Jenna and the rest of the Google Reader team are amazingly responsive!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Hmm They may be here but I've had multiple requests (15) into their OFFICIAL HELP GROUP for over a year.. No response or feedback. I guess I must be in the wrong place!!
- Chris Myles
Works fine for me. I've never seen this happen.
- Otto
Louis, how in the world could this be user error? I hit shift-D on one article, and another article pops up. Am I doing it wrong? In addition, my avatar is someone else's. I can show screenshots of that as well if I need to. And no - feedly is not the answer - that proves that Google Reader is broken.
- Jesse Stay
Try deleting your cache and google cookies. Then close/re-start your browser and re-login. Might fix it.
- AJ Batac
Jesse. If you add a note and share, do you know if the article is shared correctly as you? Or do you get a share error or no error but the article does not get shared? Is it always the avatar of the same other person or do you get a random set?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I've never come across that issue with Reader but it wouldn't surprise me. I have had problems with feeds not updating like they should. Feedly is great IMO only if you have less than 100 feeds. Any more than that and the organization becomes disorganized, if that makes sense.
- Jason Williams
Edwin, the avatar seems to change randomly - it will be one for awhile, and then it will change. Shares always get shared as me, but will be shared as the wrong article (I've only reproduced this with notes). I've mentioned this before but no one responded. Is there an equivalent to the FriendFeed Feedback room for Google Reader?
- Jesse Stay
I see. So there are really two problems: a more cosmetic showing the wrong avatar and a more problematic poping up the wrong article. Are you able to consistently reproduce it?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, my initial description talks about both
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: since we suspect the share-with-note issue is browser-specific, we still need to know what browser you're seeing this with. As for the wrong avatar showing up, we've seen this happen when your contacts (accessible at google.com/contacts) have multiple conflicting email addresses (e.g. yours shows up in another contact's, or vice-versa).
- Mihai Parparita
Mihai, thanks - this is the first time I've seen the Google Reader team respond to an issue I've had like this. I'll test it in other browsers and get back to you on what browsers are affected.
- Jesse Stay
Mihai, also, regarding the avatar issue and contacts, wouldn't that be a bug? I hope it's not a feature. I should be able to say "this is my avatar" and have that stick.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, what browser are you seeing this in right now? You haven't answered that question.
- Louis Gray
i grandi intellettuali conoscono tutte le canzoni dei cartoni animati degli anni 80. (me lo ripeto continuamente perchè mi ritengo una luminare...)
- Valentina De Santis
io mi ritengo un'idiota. Ma con molta classe.
- Dania
ovviamente io le canzoni dei cartoni animati le conosco tutte a livello agonistico.
- Valentina De Santis
Chi non conosce le canzoni dei cartoni animati NON è un intellettuale.
- Alessandra Muccinelli
Per chi ha una certa età, non è valido... è ovvio che le conosca. Una volta facevano due cartoni animati due, li si guardava come delle prelibatezze, e si imparava tutto a memoria... sigla, battute, sequenze. Ora se sento quelle musiche, invece che nostalgia,. mi viene nausea... troppe volte le ho sentite!
- Pepper Mind
io le ascolto buona parte del giorno.. sono perfette come sottofondo per programmare =)
- Gas
ed ecco spiegato perchè non mi fido MAI del lavoro dei programmatori.
- Max Uggeri | iRev
ovvio, mica solo un pomeriggio? Il problema è quando inizi pure a rivederli
- EmaWebDesign
Goldrake, Capitan Harlock, L'uomo Tigre, Lady Oscar, Rocky Joe, Gundam, Candy Candy, Sampei, Conan, Yattaman, Tekkamen, Starzinger , Mazinga, Daltanius, Mila e Shiro, Chobin, Hello Spank e ancora, Capitan Harlock, Remì, Magica Emi, Pollon, Sui monti con Annette, l'indimenticabile Lamù, poi Cara Sara, Lupin III Lo strano mondo di Minù, Pollianna, I predatori del tempo.
- dadevoti
sto iniziando a sentirmi vecchia. fermi tutti.
- nandina
33. Ma di quelli mentali, molti meno...sono praticamente una OTTENNE.
- Valentina De Santis
mai nessuno che citi simba il leone bianco. Siete persone tristi, ecco.
- Francesco Contini
Cara Sara??? ma era Lovely Sara! comunque...Principessa Zaffìro, L'Uomo tigre, Iridella
- Valentina De Santis
Simba lo seguivano quelli dell'altra sezione a scuola, eravamo in guerra con loro e ovviamente noi avevamo riferimenti culturali opposti
- dadevoti
Oddio Lovely Sara il cartone più triste del mondo dopo quello del cane che cercava la mamma.
- nandina
In questi casi lo chiedo sempre: qualcuno ha mai seguito un cartone che era la storia di due bambine scambiate alla nascita, una di famiglia ricca e l'altra povera? Non riesco a ricordarmi il titolo.
- nandina
vi siete persi Jeeg, Bun Bun (tristerrimo), Trider G7, Lotti, Conan (quello con Lana)..
- Gas
demethan e le rane dello stagnooooo, demethan e le rane dello stagnooooo, demethan e le ragne dello stagnooooo....poi non mi ricordo come andava avanti...
- Alberto Botton
La stella della senna era stupendo. Soprattutto per l'errore storico nella sigla italiana... Gli snorky qualcuno ha osato nominarli? e David Gnomo? e il giro del mondo in 80 giorni?
- nandina
Peraltro la perduta sigla di Lamù è sicuramente opera di un napoletano. Nandina, credo tu ti riferisca a Jane e Micci, sigla di Nico Fidenco.
- Federico F.
Le tenebrose avventure di Billy e Mandy
- TelespallaBlog
per continuare la saga dell'allegria, c'erano anche Charlotte e Milly un giorno dopo l'altro
- Valentina De Santis
Lulù l'angelo tra i fiori (era il mio preferito)... :D
- Valentina De Santis
Voi non vi rendete conto di quanto i cartoni ci abbiano manipolato il cervello. Io ho la fissa erotica di trombare coppie di fratelli da quando ho visto Georgie. Ci potrebbero scrivere manuali di psichiatria.
- Dania
Daitarn 3 noi siam un trio allegri e pieni di brio ....
- dadevoti
......seguiam la scia se un meganoide ci spia......
- SanfredianinoDoc
La sui monti con Annette, Gigi la trottola, Magica Emi, Keni il guerriero, Alla scoperta di Babbo Natale (siamo anche in periodo), Il mistero della pietra azzurra, Sandybell, Gordian, Ruy piccoli cid, Dolce Katy, Monkey, Lalabel, Bia, PollyannaAstro Robot, Vultus 5, Sandy dai 1000 colori, Glaxy Express, Hurricane Polimar, Kolby, gli orsetti del cuore, Libro cuore, Kyashan, L'ape Maia, L'ape Maga'
- Gas
Vicky il vichingo, Barbapapà, He Man, Occhi di Gatto, Muteking, la Signora Minù, Coccinella, Temple e Tam Tam, Fiorellino Giramondo...ABBASTA COSI'
- Valentina De Santis
mica male.. ne abbiamo tirate fuori un bel po =)
- Gas
devilman era davvero fantastico ! Altri erano La principessa Zaffiro, King Arthur, Star Blazers, Starzinger, Fantaman (!!), Juni peperina, Denny, Coccinella, Angie Girl, Mysha, He Man, Capitan Jet, Chappi, Mapple Town, i bon bon magici di Lilly
- Gas
cmq si, da piccolo ero Cartoon dipendente (ma anche adesso) ^_^''
- Gas
Mazinger Z, Mazinger, Goldrake, Jeeg, Transformers, Mask, Ken il Guerriero, Cavalieri dello Zodiaco, Lupin...la lista potrebbe non finire mai...
- EmaWebDesign
The name I don't care for but CrunchPad was not that great either. It looks like the name was the only thing TechCrunch/Arrington was contributing.
- Brian Sullivan
it is similar to asus eee touch t91?
- Mike Chelen
Can't really know from this if Mike Arrington or Chandra was lying it's all he said she said kindergarten crap. Lets wait and see what the courts have to say about the whole thing.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
I don't there will ever be anything in "the courts".
- Brian Sullivan
It looks like the spin building is that either Arrington is a very good lawyer not to be contractually bound to this loser product or that he is incredibly lucky to get out of the deal.
- Brian Sullivan
"To emphasize: Michael did no deliver on his promises, and we have decided to move on our own."
- Brian Sullivan
"Let me emphasize: there are no contracts between Fusion Garage and TechCrunch."
- Brian Sullivan
"Despite what was written, there is no suit filed today. We own the IP and will defend it."
- Brian Sullivan
"There was never any agreement of any kind between the two companies. This was nothing more than a potential acquisition that didn't occur. Michael sat back while we took all the risk. The suggestion that Michael or TechCrunch owns anything is simply ludicrous."
- Brian Sullivan
Whichever way it goes I don't see anything that exciting about this product that would make me fork over $500 for one.
- ronin
ronin: that's about the going price for touchscreen tablets
- Mike Chelen
The $200 (and later $300) price was delusional from the get go.
- Brian Sullivan