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David Risley posted a link
Iran Now to Kill Bloggers - Follow That, China! : Committee to Protect Bloggers
yesterday at 8:08 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
Misleading bloody blog titles. This is still in debate. - Michael W. May via twhirl
Given the nature of the story, I really can't believe that's your first reaction. - David Risley
I've been following this for a day and half, that is why that was my first reaction. - Michael W. May via twhirl
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l0ckergn0me posted a message
“Removing my Twitter stream from my FriendFeed stream. Why? Ping.fm supports posting directly to FriendFeed now. :) Social networks, untied.”
Friday at 1:38 pm - Link
WOOOHOOO! Exactly what I've been waiting for! - Spinn
And now...we see if FF will kill Twitter. Probably not but, I bet a lot of others will remove their Twitter feeds as well. - Candace Holly
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Great. Now we can't hide your Twitter updates without also hiding your FF updates. There's a trade-off for everything! :-) - Josh Bancroft
I gotta get an invite /code to ping.fm. Anyone have any? Let me know at evanstj (at) gmail. - Tim via Alert Thingy
@Tim - Tell them to use beta code "pingyoulater" so they can get in on the beta action! - Spinn
Josh, I don't think you understand - I've completely removed my Twitter account link from here to keep from reposting the same stuff unnecessarily. This makes things better for everyone, not worse. Ping.fm is becoming an indispensable "native updates" tool. If you use both Twitter and FriendFeed, you need to use Ping.fm to post the same thing to both places (and then, potentially remove Twitter from FriendFeed). - l0ckergn0me
Can I ask sort of a dumb question as I try to to unify my online world? I can see how ping.fm will help me send the same message to various networks, but how are most of you then reading all the responses afterwards? Aren't we stuck having to go to six different networks to read all the various and separate responses? - Neil Kramer
I've been waiting for this as well. Awesome! - Joanmarie
Chris, I understand what ping.fm does, and what you're doing. Partly, I'm giving you a hard time. And partly, I'm making the argument that Twitter is just as good a "native updates" tool - a place to write - as ping.fm. This is why I love FriendFeed - I don't have to care, and be on the same tool, to get updates. Let us know how it goes! - Josh Bancroft
Neil, I don't think that's a dumb question -- mainly because I've been asking it myself lately. :-) Maybe we need a reverse ping.fm to get all of those updates in one place. I've considered using friendfeed to make a bunch of "imaginary friends" to add their services, but that will take a long time. So.... I dunno.... It is an issue. - Joanmarie
Whoooooooo! Ping.fm FTW! - Joe
Thanks! I just did the same. The other thing I just did was to remove Tumblr from Ping.fm -- I'm going to use Tumblr primarily for images, video and audio and put them and an occasional text post there directly. So far everything is making it across as I want it to Facebook too. I have the Ping.fm and Tumblr apps installed there. It was a bit wacko figuring out how to glue everything together correctly - and be able to do it from my iPhone. Swurl can have it all however it gets there. Now -- about WordPress :). - Jeff Evans
i had already removed twitter from ff - ping.fm rocks! - Dieter Schwarz
What is ping.fm? ... Ah, got it. - Ansgar Wollnik
What web page or app (for OS X, Ubuntu, & Windoze) reads all I'm following on Twitter, FF and indenti.ca ? Facebook I can do direct. - Jeff Evans
Agree ... but haven't figured out a good SIMPLE way to reply to a "tweet" using ping.fm ... FF comments stay "in house" - Christopher Perry
Not bad reply tweet in friendfeed,twitter is also a social web service. - Chris Qie
Thank gawd someone finally sees the light - Steven Hodson
I'm trying the same thing, but now I have to browse my microblog sites (twitter, pownce, identi.ca) sites manually in order to see replies. Unless I take the time to bring in all my friends to FF. - Bill Bittner
My name is Bwana, and I approve this message - Bwana McCall
I didn't add FriendFeed to Ping.FM, only Twitter. I guess it is the reverse situation, but works. - David Risley
Nice so doing this - adolfo foronda
I tried updating Friendfeed from Ping.fm using the @ff but it didn't work. - Steve Rubel
so just a sec, does that mean no more responding via friendfeed to twitter if everyone does this? We'd have to visit both sites no? - Zee from WeDoCreative
No way. Thanks for the major education session. I just checked out Ping.fm for the first time and - this should be good. I wish I could give this a triple 'like'. - Sonciary Honnoll
I thought everybody likes FF cause you can interact with everything here. how do you interact with twitter from FF if your twitter is not incorporated? (that said, I am considering removing twitter from FF myself but for entirely different reasons.) - Sebastian Keil
Why? What's wrong with just importing Twitter? - Pat Hawks
I find myself not bothering with ping.fm (as cool as it is) simply because its write-only. - Hal Rottenberg via twhirl
FriendFeed should work within Ping.fm again, but no word from FriendFeed as to what happened - and if it'll get blocked again. I don't know anybody at FriendFeed. - l0ckergn0me
Great tip! - Mark Nassal
umm... like "one ping to rule them all"? - Laura Scott via Alert Thingy
fantastic tip! I just did the same! Done and done! - Jeff McCord via twhirl
FF is working from Ping.fm at this time, but there is a disclaimer... - Robert
How are you guys getting your ping.fm stuff into FF at this point? - Robert
Well, finally a reason to use my ping.fm account. I'm going to give this a shot. :) - Dennis Jackson
Posting to FF via Ping.fm does not seem to be working after a couple tests. Sad. Must be the rate limit thing. Hope it comes back. - Dennis Jackson
That sucks... They changed there message and said they were working to bring it back... - Robert
friendfeed shares usually include something 'useful' whereas twitter is something to be filtered out more times than not. in removing your friend feed and replacing it by being posted 'directly' into the system you reduced the value of your ff shares. - Nicole Simon
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Steven Hodson posted an entry on WinExtra
Kwippy and I am not using the Twitter killer analogy
Friday at 2:42 pm - Link
I have some invites left if anyone is interested .. just need an email address - Steven Hodson
oh and just incase anyone does decide to ply in this new sandpile - my page http://www.kwippy.com/StevenHo... - Steven Hodson
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Product A does not kill Product B. Product B kills itself by not innovating/keeping up. We'll see if "Product T" can overcome its current issues quickly enough. If they can't, there will be many other products entering the market. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Saw your Kwippy headline on Duncan Riley's new service, by the way. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
@OE cool :) - Steven Hodson
I joined Kwippy yesterday. Yet another service I probably won't use when Twitter is functional. - Morton Fox
Toss me an invite? tojosan - gmail.com - Todd Jordan
@Todd - sent your way - Steven Hodson
Jeez,, another one? - David Risley
will anyone be so kind to send me an invite ? fajarjasmin@gmail.com - Fajar Jasmin
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Invites: David Risley posted a message
“Anyone have a beta code to Ping.Fm? Email is drisley -at - pcmech.com”
Friday at 3:14 pm - Link
Sent! - Matt Harwood
pingyoulater - Mona N
Thanks guys. - David Risley
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David Risley posted a message
“There are some sick bastards out there. Had a rush of comment spam on my blog overnight...one of them talking about "extreme tit torture". Jeez.”
Thursday at 5:36 am - Link
Oh, and good morning. ;-) - David Risley
I hate it when that happens. Wait, I don't have a blog! That's never happened. Good Morning2u2 - Les
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Re: louisgray.com: July's Jewels: Five Obscure Blogs that Sparkle
Thursday at 3:42 am - Link
"Thanks for the shout out, Louis. Much appreciated." - David Risley
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Brad McCrorey posted a link
Yikes. I finally found a service that makes me want to leave twitter.
Wednesday at 6:05 pm - Link
You, me and a gazillion other people ;-) - Susan Beebe
identi.ca is a replacement for Twitter? It's still missing many features. - Morton Fox
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"Uptime" is its killer app, tho. - Steve Lynch via Alert Thingy
It's Twitter 2006, but with an open source sticker on it...so that makes it more attractive. Also, the possibility of a distributed federated architecture (in theory) helps some with fail-whale fears. - Bwana McCall
It is still missing some key components, but it sure is a better contender than Plurk. - David Risley
Maybe if enough folks leave Twitter, the fail whales will subside. - richrecruiter
The worst part is, it's got me coding.. Trying to write my very first greasemonkey script to add a reply button. Like I don't have anything better to do.. - Brad McCrorey
failure is a sign of sucess..Do not underestimate Twitter !! - Peter Dawson
the magic with this: being open source, we can build on it. It's a start, not perfect, but morally superior. - Duncan Riley
Reality check - It's not a 'Twitter' yet ... but who knows :) - Charlie Anzman
no replies, DMs, track? not sure yet either... seen a couple of performance hits already...not bad though..i like the UIX - Susan Beebe
Here is Brad's GM for the reply icon http://userscripts.org/scripts... - Russellreno
reply icon is COOOL! thanks! - Susan Beebe
No problem, Susan :) - Brad McCrorey
And, thanks Russelreno for the pimpage ;) - Brad McCrorey
I've always wanted to dress like a pimp. - Russellreno
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Don’t Make Me Think » PCMech
Wednesday at 7:36 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
Great read for anybody running a website. - David Risley via Bookmarklet
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Blockbuster Withdraws Proposal to Acquire Circuit City: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance
Wednesday at 6:30 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
This would have been one of the strangest mergers I've seen anyway. - David Risley via Bookmarklet
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Curse Of Being an Early Adopter and Tech Blogger » David Risley
Wednesday at 6:22 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
It is a lonely road? :) - David Risley via Bookmarklet
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Robert Scoble shared an item on Google Reader
Fred, YouTube Sensation
June 30 at 11:28 am - Link
Now THIS is the kind of video I'm NOT trying to do. Sure is funny for the family, though. Sigh, I think I just killed a brain cell. Or 50. - Robert Scoble
i'm never getting the time back that I spent watching that video - Lou Paglia
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omg buy a Zipit? What the hell is a zipit? - Chris Lamping via Alert Thingy
Argh! The video is so .......... blargh! - Mário Pires
That's horrible. I guess I'm old. It was about - BISQ via twhirl
Oops. Hit enter by mistake...it was about <insert lengh of video> too long. - BISQ via twhirl
This is what you are going for when you say "you want traffic to your blog." - Robert Scoble
I must be in the wrong demographic. - brian junyor
Oy vey! Annoying is an understatement. Glad someone invented the escape button. - Larry Kless
aaaaaaaarghhhh :( - Iain Baker
I really like Fred. He's infectious. Nicely edited too -- quick'n'fast. - john conroy
The guy is a total genious - Joakim Hilj
Hysterical - Diane Ensey
WOW... just about 3:01 mintues to long (yes I added an extra second... cause of the inflatable toy abuse) - John Worthington
ok you guys just saved me a lot of time...thanks - Susan Beebe
Just great! He's a genious indeed! I feel young again now I know I like kid's stuff! :-) - Ton Zijp
Fred is an example of video editing that is not just eyecandy...it actually makes a stupid video brilliant. I love Fred!! - Art
I'm not sure something could be any more annoying than this. I want my 3 minutes back - Jim Goldstein
I wonder, who would win? Chris Cocker (leave Britney alone) or Fred? - Robert Scoble
Robert, I second that question. I'd like to know too. But I wouldn't like to watch it. Blech. - Raoul Pop
This is EXACTLY the kind of inscrutable content my 13-year-old and all his friend adore on YouTube. The LA Times got it right. Internet video means every demographic is going to be superserved. Nothing wrong with that. - Leo Laporte
sweet jesus that was terrible - adolfo foronda
Is it wrong of me to wish that he can only speak like that with the help of helium... and in doing so... had to injest a lot of helium that is now replacing the oxyden in his brain, as helium is prone to do? - John Worthington
Funny for the first few seconds, then I just had to end the insanity. - David Risley
If you were a 13 year old girl you'd think he was da bomb. I'm not and I don't. - Sprague D
ow ow ow ow ow ow ow....ow. Even with all of the comments I didn't think it would be /bad like that/ bad yes, but not like that.... ow. - xero
My daughters (9 & 11) have been watching Fred videos for a while now. Interesting how the topic intersects across our social spaces on the web. - Sal Distefano
Can some young person explain the appeal? I'm just not getting it. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Yikes. @Mark it's semi-funny... um no I give up, I can't explain it - Brian Carter via NoiseRiver
Is it that much different than an episode of the Ninja? Similar editing style. Jokes and content are just written to appeal to a younger demographic. I actually thought it was pretty funny. Of course when my kids were young I used to watch Pee-Wee's Playhouse and thought he was funny and inventive. I did children's magic shows for years. You have to think like a kid to get them to laugh. As my wife is fond of telling me, I never advanced past 7 mentally. - Kevin Shannon
There's a huge difference between Fred and Ninja: I can stand Ninja's voice for more than 30 seconds. That's the hugely distracting thing about Fred I can't understand. It's just beyond me, and it's hard for me to understand other people liking it, I guess. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
@Mark Did you like Pee-Wee Herman? I can understand people getting annoyed at Fred. My 18 YO daughter just came in and I asked her if she ever saw Fred videos. She went crazy about how much she loves them. Told me to look up the valentine one. She then pointed out this video which is popular with her college friends (I promise it's not Fred and it's not as annoying.... and it's not a Rick Roll) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... Just an idea of what 18 YO's think is funny. - Kevin Shannon
This is a take on the Valley Girl ridicule gag, just mutated since today age 6 is the new 13; throw in the "ADHD: medical problem or just crappy parenting" backdrop, Alvin & the Chipmunks vocals (the 'banana peal' of sound effects), and classic cartoon telegraphing, and what you get is "Fred": Merlin Mann's nephew with whom he competes for attention at every required attendance family gathering. - Micah Wittman
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possible248 posted an entry on CodingExperiments.com
Which Linux Distributions Are Dying?
June 30 at 12:50 pm - Link
shhhh... Fedora's dying? Google lies! :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
Not really that surprising, truthfully. Of course, as an old Gentoo guy, I'm used to being off the radar. ;) - Alexander Williams
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Actually, I'm optimistic about Fedora's future. It has a lot of things to work on, but as my avatar says, I'm a big Fedora fan. :D - possible248
Oh yes! Your avatar! :) And btw Fedora started almost everything Ubuntu ships --troll ends here ;-) - directeur via NoiseRiver
I am a Debian guy. I don't really believe that any of those distributions are "dying"*, just that Ubuntu is the best pitched. If any of those dye, it will be slackware. - Marcos Marado
Marcos: Don't tell that to my Slackware friend. :D Actually, as soon as I posted that, I saw that the word "dying" really doesn't describe it. So what if newbie users aren't into Debian? It doesn't mean that they won't try Debian after having become experienced with Ubuntu. I even pressed the "stop" button in Firefox, but the post was published to the world... - possible248
Debian may be dying as a standalone distro, but many major distros, including Ubuntu, are based on Debian. - Michael
I'm sort of missing Gentoo linux, but I suppose that never was as main stream as I thought it was. ;) But yeah, slack is largely being "replaced" by distros that take its core foundation, and make it both more modern and more up to date (Arch Linux is one example). Debian has its fair share of children too. (Ubuntu being the most obvious one) I don't see them dying as much as I see them letting "their young go into the world". =) - Daniel Bruce
regarding debian, I have to say that not only debian derivatives benefict from debian, but debian beneficts from them (some more than others). Then, you have those derivative users that end up realizing that Debian is better O:-) - Marcos Marado
Man, I've seen so many posts being triggered by google trends, lately. - David Risley
I actually had this idea many weeks earlier, but I only got the impulse to write my own once everybody else had used up the idea. :D - possible248
well, one thing that came into my mind when reading your blog post was exactly: "why google trends? why not distrowatch?" - Marcos Marado
reminds that it is 17 years since I tried linux the first time (dont remember if it was 0.01, 0.02 or 0.03 though) :) - Amund Tveit
Marcos: A friend of mine added Distrowatch info - possible248
I actually kind of like Debian for a server distro. Hope it stays around. - Eric Florenzano
Congrats, possible248! You made it to Linux Today: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infr... Funny how I found it on LT before I saw it on FF. :D - Cyvros/fyc
The fact that I made it onto Linux Today is more of a curse than a blessing. :D - possible248
Linux Today would explain the steady stream of referrals from your story to mine. I was sure it hit Slashdot or something... - Louis Gray
Linux ain't die. Specially Ubuntu. But other distros as well, ain't die. - Unseen
Interesting article and comments no matter how reliable the conclusion is. I went over to Google Trends to input these and other distros. All sorts of conclusions can be drawn from the info. However, one thing I found interesting is the listing of Regions making the inquiries. The United States was not high on any of the lists and often not even in the top ten. Quite often the regions with the highest ranking were Eastern European and Asian. Draw whatever conclusion you want, but the interest in Linux distros doesn't come from the US. - phil
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Scoble is Wrong About Blog Comments Being Dead » David Risley
June 30 at 3:43 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
The conversation rolls on. Nice provocative headline there, Scobe. :-) - David Risley via Bookmarklet
I agree with Scoble, comments will happen on aggregators like ff more than on a blog pg itself. - adolfo foronda
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adolfo, that doesn't mean blog comments are dead. FriendFeed is only used by a tiny fraction of the people online. - David Risley
And yet David - the comment count is so much higher for most of us bloggers on FriendFeed. - Hutch Carpenter
So what if the conversion dies off within a day? Blog comments stay with the content, add value to the content, and help with SEO, too. All this conversation on FriendFeed will be dead and buried by the end of today, most likely. - David Risley
FriendFeed comments seem to be a different animal anyway. In my case, I have to think a blog comment through at least a couple of times before I take the plunge and decide it's worth submitting. FF comments are a lot more off the cuff. - Dominik Hofmann
@David, good point. Blog comments become part of the blog, add to its value and persist. Often, I think folks value the immediacy of socnet conversations but they tend to evaporate within minutes as the next topic claims our attention. We're very stimulus-driven. - Sprague D
Wow. This FriendFeed thing gets better and better. First the post. Then the meta-post. All the conversation happening in the one place. There's something happening here, my friends. What it is ain't exactly clear... - john conroy
//there's a man with a gun over there, telling me, I got to watch Fast.tv... - john conroy
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l0ckergn0me posted an entry on Tech Help and How To
How to Make Microwave Popcorn
June 30 at 12:21 pm - Link
Useless, but cool to see an inline MP3 on FriendFeed. New? - David Risley
How does this inline audio player work ? - Brian Sullivan
I love popcorn. - Richard
grr u make me so hungry! =P - Michael Garrison via twhirl
inline mp3 player on FF = cool - andy brudtkuhl
the inline player is lovely. would be great if they could embed Last.FM audio from peoples loved tracks - Jamie
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l0ckergn0me posted a link
Oliver Stone and 'W.,' a story of President Bush - Los Angeles Times
Oliver Stone and 'W.,' a story of President Bush - Los Angeles Times
June 30 at 11:01 am - via Reshare - Link
I get "Page Not Found" - Michael Garrison via twhirl
should be a pretty short movie, like 10-12 minutes tops? - Chris Harris
"W" will be one of the finest examples of filmidity ever. - Chris Baskind
Yeah, I'm sure that will be a fair movie. Do these directors like Stone and Moore actually think they're changing the world by making these crapumentaries? - David Risley
I wonder how they'll portray Bush? - Johnny Baker
I was sorta looking forward to this movie, now it seems like it's more garbage then a realistic portoryal of Bush. - Chris Lamping via Alert Thingy
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David Risley posted an entry on PCMech
Windows XP Died Today. RIP.
June 30 at 10:42 am - Link
It will take one hell of a dx10 only game for me to purchase Vista. And at my age and getting older, I don't know if such a game will be made ;) - Michael W. May via twhirl
Vista made me switch to Mac. And I won't even run Vista in VMware. For me, its XP if I need to use Windows. - David Risley
I moved to ubuntu. But still have my XP install when needed. - Ricardo Vidal
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Jeremiah Owyang posted a message
“How do you think Friendfeed will monetize. Although still in the very early days, Friendfeed is showing traction with a small group of influeners. Think two years out with 10 million active users. How will FF monetize? Have you noticed FF appeals to the 'creator/critic/collector/joiner' ?”
June 30 at 5:29 am - Link
Ah the million dollar question - I think context based advertising is the most likely monetization strategy - Brian Sullivan
Pro accounts to get rid of the limits? That worked for Flickr (Or did it?)... - Yuvi
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Yeah, I would have no problem with Pro accounts (not sure what functionality would be limited, number of rooms? number of friends?). Nor would I have any beef with injecting text ads into the river - as long as they flow down the page, not pinned to the top. I wouldn't have problems with banner ads either, outside the main content area. - felix
I think that you will see a continuos process of standardization in the whole realm of "social networking" and "aggregation" (data portability) and that it will become in the end a standard service of the internet, like i.e. email or ftp some time. At this point MySpace, Facebook and even FF will prolly not die, but maybe become providers for this networking service, like Gmail and Hotmail are providers for email today. And then - same monetizing as usual :) - Sebastian Küpers
@Yuvi: flickr is getting only 3% (TBV) of the money back from premium...wouldn't call this "worked"... - Luigi Centenaro
I would go for sponsored rooms and in a softer than facebook beacon model... - Luigi Centenaro
There is definitely an opportunity for partners and sponsors to do some engaging activities in FF Rooms. The Rooms feature are a great staring points for virtual communities within FF for users (and potential customers for partners/sponsors) with specific interests. - tekspectator
@Luigi: Yes, I was wondering the same thing. 25$ a year isn't goanna keep something as big as flickr running... - Yuvi
Paid access to additional privileges. Things like a profile bio, perhaps a directory of users or a directory of FriendFeed Rooms. Things pro users would be interested in. - David Risley
Current 11 Page Limit/Lowered Like/Comment Limits for Non-Pro folks? - Yuvi
Getting theend users to pay for what is essentially a communications service I believe is not something that the masses will open their wallets to. The service has to appear to the end user to be "free", either subsidized by partners/sponsors engagements or user action/context based ads (even though Fb Beacon doesn't seem to take off). - tekspectator
Ads from aggregated content? Think of FriendFeed as a scraper that scrapes content with creators' permission. ;) - Mike Abundo
@pixelsebi sound like a reasonable assessment. Google Connect in someways provides that layer of social features. The interesting part is how they (in theory) can harvest attention data coupled with context of virtual communities with special interests. A bunch of e-gaming companies are already doing just that with larger poker communities for instance for customer retention. - tekspectator
Perhaps offering the service to be used within a corporation (customize it) and charge for it. Bring Social Media within an organization? - tanya
anyway a service should be premium on functionalities that give some sort of return (reputation, money, business, etc)...not stressing the "early adopters" with a fee... - Luigi Centenaro
I would think contextual advertising but I've heard that's not the case. Perhaps data mining for ORM purposes? - andy brudtkuhl
Since FF doesn't have some other business, there's no potential for indirect benefits here, unless some other company acquires them. So, I'm guessing the strategy is either advertising or acquisition (or none at all, but these folks seem too smart for that). - Jason Wehmhoener
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David Risley posted a link
Are Blogs Old School
June 29 at 2:10 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
Blogging is on the other side of the bell curve. It is not old school. - David Risley via Bookmarklet
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Been itching to overclock your Mac Pro? No problem.
June 29 at 1:47 pm - via