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Or, what I think about it. - Anthony Citrano

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I would rather everyone be anonymous than no one. - jeneane sessum

Gerard: as I said in the other thread this would be impossible to enforce so I wouldn't worry about it too much. - Robert Scoble

I commented on your blog: I think anonymity is both a horrible thing and a great tool, it depends on how it's used. In some countries complete anonymity is needed, otherwise they would be put to death or jail. I find its far more respectable when someone puts a real name and face to their opinion, though it isnt always needed. - Colby Olson

Robert: I just think it's interesting that you want to abolish anonymity, that in itself is an odd thing to say, I suppose. Perhaps you could explain your reasoning? - Colby Olson

Robert I think we all realize it would not be enforceable but what I'm going after is the idea behind it - that *were it enforceable*, it would be a good thing. To me, the underlying idea that anonymous speech is a bad thing and should be eliminated is rather authoritarian and terrifying. - Anthony Citrano

Colby: everything that I have seen negative on the Internet is due to anonymity. Can you link to one positive thing? Mini Microsoft but even that would be much better if the guy who wrote it would sign his name. - Robert Scoble

Anthony: well, I don't see it as a good thing. I have freedom of speech already and would die to defend that. Anonymity is for cowards. - Robert Scoble

Robert, speaking out on the internet against oppressive governments is not a bad thing. And as I have stated previously, many revolutions start in anonymity. Again, rules of absolutism don't allow for both sides. Anonymity is a tool and it can be used for good and bad. - Tim Finucane

Kind of a night of drastic comments from the Scobleizer, huh?? Everything negative on the internet is due to anonymity. Yikes thats a whole new round of overstatement. I love following you Robert and agree way more often than not but that's silly. - Cody Heitschmidt

tim: what revolution started with anonymity? Certainly NOT the American one. - Robert Scoble

It most definitely did start with secret meetings. The crown didn't know identities until after things got under way. - Tim Finucane

Robert: You just spawned numerous blog posts and threads with that one. I agree with you up to a point. One of the two that I have blocked on FF was determined to be a troll and supposedly anon. However, there are many countries that speaking up and signing on the dotted line will get both your head and hand chopped off. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Cody is right. I did overstate that and I am sorry about that. - Robert Scoble

Robert... i would follow you into the fire.. and here is why we all follow you: Your are passionate. Sometimes it gets in your way because you overstate things but then you admit you are wrong. A guy with 30,000 followers could be big headed enough not to admit something he said wasn't quite right. It's cool that a little guy in Ks can make a contrary statement at you and not just get blocked and you roll over him. Now admit you were wrong on the rule against anonymity too. lol just kidding. - Cody Heitschmidt

The Internet is and should be about choice. You should be able to choose your level of anonymity. It is not one shoe fits all. - Jauder Ho

Robert -- There is legitimate reason for anon speech, especially on the internet. What I think you really want is a "Personal Global Internet Filter" that allows the removal of the ugliest side-effects. Even looking to the American revolution, pen names and aliases were used countless times by the likes of Thomas Jefferson, et al. There is a legitimate purpose to it... the statement that no revolution was started by anonymous is a bit of a stretch. - Mark Philpot

There are a ton of reasons for a person to use a pseudonym on the internet. Especially when you look at people in other countries who can only speak by being "nameless". I even have reasons for using a name that isn't my real name. - Candace

Don't admit you were wrong on the rule unless you believe it... until you believe ! hehe lol Great freaking discussion who started this whole mess with the rule comment? - Cody Heitschmidt

I believe it was started by Robert's response to Laura Fitton's question: "What one "rule" would you make about the Internet?" - Tim Finucane

To all those under pseudonyms: Why? Are you truly in fear of reprisal? @Dtrizzle a link to your blog profile quickly reveals you. @Corvida do you have a reason? - Mathew A. Koeneker

i'm sorry he's wrong or right depending i've been batting this question lately and i use the internet not to shield who i am but to get people to talk to me who wouldn't do to disability. and if i ever meet any net folks in RL my hope is that they will be over it quicker due to knowing I'm capable and cool to begin with - Cecil Sandus

@Robert Scoble (scobleizer): What's so negative about my blog? Well, other than the fact that I don't apply myself. Sorry, there've been too many firings and too many "we won't hire you" situations because of uptight control freaks in power who can't stand employees who have their own minds. Anyone who really desires it can find out who MiniMage is, but I feel the better for not broadcasting my real name, and so do my parents. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF from NoiseRiver

well said Mage - Cecil Sandus

One rule for the internet is that all data is equal. The second rule is that there are no other rules. I think Scoble's idea of not anonymity is becoming more a reality with people's lives becoming intertwined with their online identity. I would like to preserve anonymity for whistle blowers, etc. Anonymity is a tool that can be used or abused. - Erik Weese

Pseudonyms mean nothing. People do find out who you are. I spent two days in a courtroom reading my blog entries aloud that were posted under a pseudonym. If you don't want people to read what you write, buy a pen and a blank journal and stick it under your mattress. - Trish R

MiniMage many many more people have been hired for their blogs than fired for them and I can't think of an instance where someone who was fired wasn't behaving stupidly. We have a whole chapter in our book about that. - Robert Scoble

yes Dtrizzle that makes sense to me and Trish as for your idea it's an oldie but a goodie... - Cecil Sandus

corvida isn't anonymous. I have talked with her on the phone. Minimicrosoft is pretty anonymous but I know at least one person who knows who he is. - Robert Scoble

Dtrizzle - The bit on your educational background while perfect for a resume can provide an easy way to start skip-tracing you. Not that I am. Just one of the little tricks I learned where tech meets accounting. - Mathew A. Koeneker

it is amazing the conversations that can start with a simple word or two. I am at a wedding with people who have left Iran to get the freedom of speech so understand well the problems with using your real name. One guy here was in Iranian prisons for years. He is not afraid to stand up in public against injustice. - Robert Scoble

@Robert Scoble (scobleizer): Do you remember the Chronicle of Higher Education article where someone talked about being on an interview committee? These EDUCATED folks attitudes were explained thus, "Several committee members expressed concern that a blogger who joined our staff might air departmental dirty laundry (real or imagined) on the cyber clothesline for the world to see. Past... more... - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF from NoiseRiver

Scoble I think he was referring to the fact that I don't use my real name online at all. As for the person who asked why, because I don't want people Googling me. I like to keep my personal life separate from my online life. Same person, different interactions and I don't want them overlapping in any way, shape, or form. - Corvida

@Corvida - Why keep yourself so fragmented? Then you have to remember who you with whom. I am with Robert for the most part on this one. You instantly gain more respect from me if your are proud enough of your name to attribute ALL of your actions whether in the VW or RW to it. You are an American are you not? Unless, you have a TS like my folks then who or what are you hiding from. Telling me that it is just a personal choice is a cop out. @Dtrizzle gives some valid rationale for his decision. - Mathew A. Koeneker

There are certain place on the net that you NEED anonymity !! Take a look at some Forums that ONLY focus on vulnerability disclosures. Each and every one of them is only known by a handle. Chances that you actually associate a handle w/ real name /face is near impossible. - Peter Dawson

I could argue the same. Most in my situation do take that approach. My disease is just that a disease. It is what it is. Like I commented earlier there can be valid reasons; I just wanted to hear Corvida's rationale both from a personal interest as she is just another human being as well as from the pov of the well known blogger. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Interesting convo. I actually talked to Mark Hopkins about this. He brought his anon handle into his identity. I've kept mine apart. I don't agree with no one being anonymous; I happily existed online for years and can still write about personal issues and my children without compromising their (or my) privacy. - Cyndy

I vote for anonymity. If you are anonymous and threatening though, realize that I also support using every tracking method possible to make a community safer. People can not yell "FIRE" in a crowded room. I can not call my neighbor a "RAPIST" just because I feel like it. Regulated Free Speech is ok. Unregulated free speech is not, just as I can not go around town physically hitting anyone I want to ("Freedom of Action"). - Mitchell Tsai

The vast majority of my college friends (Harvard 1982-89, age 40-50) are still petrified of Facebook due to Corvida's concerns - and I have mostly techy friends. There are discussions on our alumni boards (on & off Facebook) about all the potential career dangers. About 30-40% of my college friends are on LinkedIn because they understand resumes & how you can control the presentation of... more... - Mitchell Tsai

P.S. I've spoken with Corvida on the phone also. We were going to visit Georgia Tech together, but plans didn't work out (and my college friend who's a professor there turned out to be out-of-town also). Bummer. - Mitchell Tsai

Assume ANYTHING you e-mail, post on the Internet, or say on a phone is recorded somewhere and scanned for verbal/textual keywords. My first company is now partially owned by the C... and we process information to find ter...... Over 10 years ago (1992-98), I attended academic data-mining conferences where people from the phone company presented the algorithms they were using to scan... more... - Mitchell Tsai

“regulated free speech”, Mitchell? Can you be serious? - Anthony Citrano

Yep. - Mitchell Tsai

well i think the concept is absurd, myself. but i'm out. also, why post 5-6 messages in a row instead of 1? it's messy and inelegant. - Anthony Citrano

Paragraph marks in a comment would work too. I don't like how everything runs together in one comment... - Mitchell Tsai

@Robert people tend to act differently online than they do in real-life, anonymous or not. They perceive a disconnect between their online profile and life. Makes people be more direct, confrontational, and sometimes hostile. They don't feel bound by the same social rules (have respect for each other). - Alexander van Elsas

I can fully understand that some wish to be anonymous on the web. But thinking that the things you do online are disconnected from your offline life is stupid. I am not anonymous online and I am aware that my interactions are always visible. - Alexander van Elsas

Resurrected because of this: http://friendfeed.com/rww... - Anthony Citrano

I'll just add here that I don't agree that we should chop off our whole arm but if someone can point the finger and label me negatively knowing full well that I am public and not hiding behind a fake avatar, I should be able to see who is doing the labeling and so should the community since the insult was brought to the community's attention by the hiding labeler/harasser. We should... more... - Jeunelle Foster

Even aside from my opinion that the Imus thing was a bunch of BS from a clueless Outrage Nation, I disagree that providers ought strip away anonymity every time someone's feelings get hurt. - Anthony Citrano

My rule would be no obnoxious bloggers. - Cristo

There are good (edit: adequate) legal processes for handling truly abusive cases. - LogEx

This is a long thread and I may have missed it in a later response, but what about people finding you in person through the internet? I play WoW and my guild leader was stalked by someone who knew only her first name, state, and profession. He called her and flew to her area to find her. This is just a simple case of a nut job, but the internet is full of them. When you bring other countries, with less freedom into the mix things just get messier. - Heather

The thing is, he never defined his terms either. Is creating a bogus account and logging in through a proxy for a one-time flame the same as using a long-term pseudonym for mostly constructive purposes? I think not. There are so many good and valid reasons for not living completely transparently. - LogEx

@Anthony it's your opinion that you found the Imus thing BS and I'm not talking about when people's feelings get hurt, I disagree in cases where someone can get physically hurt, here is an example. Blogcatalog was in heat a few months ago when some of these members who I see as negative while hiding behind fake persona, fake avatars, hiding their Ip addresses and whois information took... more... - Jeunelle Foster

WOW. I was trying to figure out why I had this pop up from a year ago. I still pretty much side with The Scoblezier with a few exceptions. If you are blogging, chatting, or even surfing on-line....odds are pretty good that a determined individual or govt entity can find you out. You may think that you are "anon" but in reality you are not at all. Plus, I have a lot less respect for folks esp in this country that are unwillling to put their real names in their posts. - Mathew A. Koeneker

I didn't feel like cutting and pasting so sorry. But if you think that your on-life persona is somehow sacred and secure from your real life identity then you have some harsh realities to wake up to. This is the information age people. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Robert Scoble

There is a video being passed around of a woman dying after being shot in the streets of Iran. You know how to find it. I won't post it. It's just too horrific. My thoughts with her family and those who struggle to be heard.

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ya just saw it :/ - sean percival

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saw that. :/ - vijay

that's the one Milad was talking about :|||||| - Shandiz

What the hell can we do instead of just agreeing that real time is awesome ! - sami

god. its just one person. today almost 6 ppl died in the streets - Myri∂m

It's interesting that journalists always struggle to show just how much to show. It's a tough one. Sami: if you aren't in Iran you can't do much other than to declare your solidarity. - Robert Scoble

horrific. - Carlos Ayala

I agree with you (I didn't post it). then italian television showed it at 8pm... they suck... - ezekiel

The only reason a video like that exists, is because people are morbid enough to go watch it. These people are like real life trolls. We should just ignore them, maybe they'll go away. Yea, don't judge me, I mean, we have never tried that, have we? For all we know, it might work. - Javier Altman

Andrew sullivan live blogging what he is hearing from Iran http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/ - Teri Gidwitz

Javier: I don't agree with that. Sometimes you need to show other people the truth of life and death. Here they are showing what really is happening on the streets. On the Internet you can choose which truth you want to pay attention to. - Robert Scoble

Has anyone stopped to think that maybe passing these types of vids around could be further inflaming an already violent situation on the break of something much worse?? I am all for transparency but, when do we in social media draw a line and say that its not our place to interfere in other countries politics?? - Joe Hall

Maybe can we all decide for a worldwide gathering on a certain date to push our governments to do anything to help. - sami

the most important channel of italian public tv decided to show the video, at 8 pm, during the news, when a lot of people is watching... i'm glad here on ff we have this attitude, and WE THINK before posting... - Ivy /composmentis

sami: the worst thing for the US government to do would be to get involved. That will allow the Iranian government to turn the protesters into villians. - Robert Scoble

Not if governments where pushed into involvement by their citizens, Rwanda, Darfour, Bosnia, This has to stop, you know well that our governments will do nothing if no money is involved - sami

This is when clicking 'like' is not really appropriate. I've seen some horrid videos on the internet over the years, no matter where the 'line' is drawn it will always be broken. Sad but true. - Chris Marshall

The Supreme leader chap called Britain (my country) the most evil nation on earth which I thought was a bit harsh. - David Lloyd

Robert: I don't disagree with the dissemination of information. I think we all have a responsibility to know what is really going on in the world. All I'm saying is that media can be morbid because the media knows that blood, gore and icky stuff grabs peoples attention. It's very sad, but it's very true. And all I tried to say was, maybe the only reason why this crap happens is because... more... - Javier Altman

I was so shocked when I saw that. But in a way it illustrates what is keeping everyone glued to the topic: ghoulish bloodlust, electronically sanitised for the mass market. Meanwhile I'll keep tweeting to encourage a donation to avzaaz.com to pay for an independant exit poll http://bit.ly/q46TU - the only practical suggestion I have come across for those outside of Iran to do something affirmative to try and help this dreadful situation. - Anita Hunt

this is not interfering joe/ we need your help / we need you all to reflect these films and photos / we need to be heard - Shandiz

Just watched the video: what a world. - David Lloyd

Or we do something know to help them now, or our governments will go to war because of the Nuclear threat - Our choice ! - sami

we know iranian gov. is killing people... that would justify not a 'us' intervention, but for sure a UN intervention... - Ivy /composmentis from email

Anita: That is exactly my point. Because people consume it, it exists. Maybe if we stopped consuming it, it'd stop existing (or at least become rare). It's just a thought. It'll never happen though, human beings are way too drawn to blood and gore. - Javier Altman

@Javier I don't agree with you. I was just having this discussion with someone. The media in the U.S. censors tons of stuff because they think it's too much for the American audience. On the other hand, other countries don't censor their media. I know that in Latin America, they show everything because they feel people should understand what is exactly going on. I am not sure if this... more... - Shevonne

The protesters have already been labeled villans. I watched this yesterday when it was broadcast on CSPAN. The crowd chanted "death to America" and "death to Britain". Sadly this clip on CSPAN only has been viewed 104 times according to the counter on the site. http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library... - Robert Kenney

i just watched the video..and i feel that such videos should be shown so that the world gets to know the real situation in Iran . we cant just continue to be armchair activists ...something needs to be done ..NOW !! - Ray

I saw it. There are simply no words. - Chris Baskind

Shevonne: Please understand that I'm coming from a different background, as I was born, raised and still live in Latin America (Argentina and Chile, to be precise). If you saw some of the footage they show on TV here, dismembered bodies after a car wreck for no other effect but to keep people watching, you'd be disgusted. I have not watched this video either. I don't need to watch it to... more... - Javier Altman

@Javier I guess it depends as to the person's motive why he/she is posting it. I think the majority of the people (not going to say everyone cause you never know) are forwarding it so people can see that there is more to the story. The first time I saw the video on here was a Persian FFer, and I don't think she posted it for the shock factor. I think it's so everyone can understand what is going on. - Shevonne

Javier: I think the importance of this video is to help us conceive of the horror on an individual level. It's so easy to say Iran, Iranians, Iranian Government - to coalesce these ideas into an oversimplified whole. Those oversimplifications allow concepts like "Axis of Evil" to exist. When you are confronted with the harsh reality on a personal level, it's harder to ignore that these are individuals like us with families and friends, who are suffering at this moment. - Chip Ramsey

Shevonne makes a good point; there is so much disinformation flying around people post pics and vids as 'proof' to the outside world of their actual situation. For example: several hours ago there were reports of a bomb at the tomb of the last Ayatollah but not one pic or vid. - Anita Hunt

Shevonne: True, I'm not saying people posting it are all doing it out of a morbid sense of entertainment. I just think it's redundant. Maybe I'm too much of an optimist, but I want to believe that people don't need to be shown this kind of horror to understand it. Then again, that's just me. - Javier Altman

Chip: I'd hate to think that people need to be shown this horror on a personal level to understand how it works, what it is and what implications it has. I don't have to show you a video of me killing your dog so that you'll understand how much you'll suffer if I actually go and kill your dog. Aren't we smarter than that? Oversimplifications do exist and they suck, I'm not going to... more... - Javier Altman

+1 Javier. Just because I can see it, does not mean I need to. Just give me the overview so I can understand the gravity of it without all the gory details. The same reason I have refused to watch the beheading videos from the radicals. I understand what i means to be shot, beheaded, blown up, and have seen enough of this footage unintentionally to be satisfied that I have a grasp of what it means. I get it. - Robert Kenney

so sad and horrifying may her death and all those involved not be in vain. - Kim Landwehr

It is a difficult clip to watch - it makes me feel helpless. I pray for those in Iran fighting for their freedom. - Robert Freeze

we need something more than pray :| - Shandiz

Tell us what you need, Shandiz. - Chris Baskind

Javier: I understand your point and wish that were the case. Let me put it this way, I will be going over to a friend's house in an hour or so. Most of the people there will not be talking about Iran, nor will they care to talk about Iran. 1) because they have negative preconceptions of the region and 2) because they don't want to talk about anything that makes them uncomfortable. This has been going on for me at work as well. My experience has been that very few people are really paying attention. - Chip Ramsey

@Chris: we need to be heard as much as possible throughout the world. we can't just rely on BBC/ CCN or other news networks! - Shandiz

Chip: But that's life, for the most part. People generally don't care about things that don't affect them directly. Showing a video won't change that, it'll only make them want to stay away even more -- if they are uncomfortable talking about it, be jumping of joy at the idea of watching a video of something like this, don't you think? - Javier Altman

Javier: My point is you can't ignore the video. You can't shake the video. But, you can easily ignore my desire to talk about the situation at a party. You can easily ignore Anderson Cooper on CNN running a 5 minute news story about Iran tucked between stories about legalizing marijuana and a celebrity couple getting a divorce. - Chip Ramsey

just saw the video, may her soul rest in peace and her death not be in vain. I really feel for all the poeple in iran, that there rights to choose for a president are being ignored, and their protests being beaten down.. shame to you ahmejinejad.. excuse my spelling - Sebastiaan van den Akker

Chip: It's true, you can't shake the video that easily, and I suppose the rest of your argument holds water as well. One thing though, even if you make these people who obviously don't want to get involved at least be aware of the situation, what do we gain? These people are not the ones who are going to go out of their way to complain, to participate, to make an effort from their own... more... - Javier Altman

The video has been published on Facebook with a brief description of the incident that ends with the words, "The film is shot by my friend who was standing beside me. Please let the world know." Initially I was against such footage being shown but if such a video makes the world take notice then so be it. - Chris Marshall

Chip: maybe you could wear green to the party ;) - Anita Hunt

Javier: It becomes a matter of peer pressure. An exercise in social psychology. We see it happen every day with politicians and religious leaders. Once a story gets promoted to a certain level, even the people on the sidelines get involved. Anita: Good idea, but that may clash with what my wife is wearing. (joke) - Chip Ramsey

Chip: It usually happens when it affects that person's own community or country at most. It's rare that the people in the sidelines get involved with something that is so foreign to them. Still, I honestly hope you are right. - Javier Altman

Saw it almost immediately. Was considering tweeting it, but I have to agree with Robert here. All those interested will find it on their own. I would, however, appreciate it if someone would point me in the direction of the facebook post that tells the story behind the vid. May she and all those who have ever lost their lives standing up for the right to speak or as collateral in any power struggle - rest in peace. Lest we forget... - Danica Radisic

And so once again the media (real-time this time) is busy weaving and plotting justification to invade another country, demonize another nation (Obama 'world is watching'. Similar warning from then president, Bush, before Iraq invasion). I'm glad I know enough technologists are transforming the world for the better instead of fueling an already inflamed situation. Those who are claiming... more... - Moushumi Kabir

There are those who watch a video for the morbidity of it, there are those who watch because they need to see truth, and there are those (like me) who watch a video because they care about the subject (and had no idea the content would be what it was) There is nothing inherently wrong in posting, showing, or viewing a video. Only the intention behind the action is right or wrong. Many... more... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob, I agree, intention is important. Sadly, given our history/record, I can't help but sense a hidden agenda, more when emotions seem to be selective for the same crime based on nation/religion/ethnicity/color, etc.. If not, why are there no tears for fellow Americans: Katrina survivors, homeless, unemployed, etc.?! We all know the agenda is to instill a gov of our choosing. What... more... - Moushumi Kabir

I hope (among other things) to know her name... someday... - Carlos M. Gomes

carlos, I've heard her name was Neda? - motownmutt

it is not horrific, it is beautiful and tragic--she is the face of the revolution - Eleanor Wynn

speachless and sad - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed

Moushumi: I agree with you about the desire to interfere (by politicians/military) when we have plenty of issues at home. However, the people here have the desire for the people of Iran to have the same freedoms and voice that we have here. It is our duty to stand with them, and encourage them. Hopefully in doing so, we all succeed, and there is no need or reason for bombing or... more... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I've only seen the Techcrunch picture of that scene. Horrific is right. - George Hall (Australia)

That vid is raw, and real. Its a small representation of what people are ACTUALLY experiencing. We simply aren't used to not having layers of sanitized filters between us and well, life. - Sean Oliver

Thank you so much, Robert: 'Free speech' means spreading infos 'wisely' and respectfully too.. - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Rob: let me quote a fellow American who articulated it best "....It's a sensitive issue in the US, given the ongoing threats of "humanitarian" invasion, whether it be by our military or Israel's. The 24/7 news coverage we're getting is obviously aligned with the perpetual pre-war propaganda effort and an anti-Iran bias that has much more to do with oil, Islam, and the 1979 revolution... more... - Moushumi Kabir

What was I complaining about again? This vid is unspeakable even though I'm failing to be objective about it. - dhamza

Moushimi: What I would like to see come out of all that goes on this week, is sufficient change that any and all threat of western military action in Iran is removed, once and for all. What is sufficient to do that? I don't know. These protests, if /un/successful at changing the mode of leadership in Iran, will likely lead to intervention. However, if the protests change make some... more... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob: why is it our business whom the people of another nation chooses to elect? Our allegiance should be with our constitution, not with any foreign nation. In some countries it's considered treason and rightfully so. Singapore is a prime example: 0 political disturbance and 0 interference in internal politics of other nations. Nothing personal but just to clear my point: Would Robert... more... - Moushumi Kabir

Maryam told me that the name Neda means beautiful voice. I keep thinking of her dad who was one of the ones holding her as she died. It is my worst nightmare to watch one of my children dying. A beautiful voice has been silenced. - Robert Scoble

The allegiance is not with any foreign nation. It is with /people/ who wish to be heard. People transcend the borders of any nation. My allegiance is for the right of the people to express themselves without being silenced. (cutting off all communications infrastructure silences them!) And as a nation who has suffered the /very same thing/ recently, when one of our own /stole/ an... more... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

That is terrible - Dan Schawbel

Today when we celebrate fathers day. Please observe a moment of silence and say a small prayer for the father in Iran who lost his daughter. - Russ Jackson

Robert: It is when I saw that video that I decided I could not just stand idly by. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob: bottom line, there is an agenda behind 'supporting' Iranians. I want my government to focus on domestic issues, plain and simple. I want my fellow Americans to channel their energies in solving domestic crisis, health coverage for ALL Americans, jobs created for the rising unemployed. I want solidarity with these issues not the internal politics of a nation I've absolutely no right over. It's that simple. - Moushumi Kabir

Want or not, your government is going to continue to worry about international issues. Want or not, your country is on the brink of military incursion into Iran. Would you rather that? Would you prefer us to be completely isolationist? No nation is going to fix all of its own internal ills. If there is any agenda behind supporting Iranians, it seems that it would be a CIA sponsored... more... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob: on his day, I'm honoring my dad and following his teachings: cleaning up my own backyard and staying away from hypocrisy/double standards. It really is very simple, try it sometime! :-) - Moushumi Kabir

I don't feel that I'm engaging in hypocrisy or double standards. I would do the same as they are in my own country. And, if I happened to be in their country right now, I know where I would be. I'm not sure what you think is hypocritical about that. It is every person's right to be heard. I feel it is my duty and obligation to support people who choose to exercise that right, whether or... more... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

This is the first time I have been so conscious of Iranian women, defiantly beautiful, with perfect make-up, a shock of hair showing out from under the hijab, they remind me of the Tianamen Lady Liberty and our own Lady of the Harbor. - Phil Boiarski

Rob: allow me to share my Iranian friend's sentiment and message, "Friends: As a conscientious citizen of the world, I am very disturbed by the events that are taking shape in Iran, the country of my birth. As I have been telling some people in my recent discussions over the situation in Iran -- we all have to be very careful as to what we claim to oppose and what we choose to support... more... - Moushumi Kabir

Moushumi: well said. That's why I totally disagree with USA Republicans who are pushing Obama to do more. He has been perfect on this issue and should stay as quiet as possible. Iranians need to do the hard work here and it needs to continue to be seen as an Iranian issue. My wife still remembers being bombed by Iraq with USA made bombs. Lets not continue to make mistakes as Americans and I hope it all works out for Iranian citizens. - Robert Scoble

Russ, I will. And I pray for all the fathers who have lost children either through death or divorce. May they be reunited, if not here in restoration then in the Resurrection. May they be granted comfort and peace and hope. - Melanie Reed

I have to agree with Robert - The LAST thing I want to see in this is US military involvement. Whether that is to step in and be "peacekeepers" or to step in to overthrow the current regime, I don't think that these are admirable or desirable goals. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

And Moushumi, I don't understand why you think that supporting the people's right to be heard is hypocritical, or objectionable. I do not advocate violence, and I do not advocate military conflicts. Peaceful deomonstration is the proper means to change minds permanently. Why should I not support the people's right to do that. Go back and look through my tweets, and see what I think.... more... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Robert, Rob, I agree with you. As we got nearly the same problem in Madagascar: US, South Africa, other Africans, France (?) military involvement and so on! Believe me, pple just wanna live in -peace-, and those kind of unhealthy buzzes and wishes are simply inadmissible! - Thierry R. Andriamirado

The Iranian people don't need me to speak for them. But I am happy to help them have the means, and carry their message further. They don't need a "twitter revolution" but if there is revolution, the news of it won't be on CNN, and it won't be in the New York Times, or even on al Jazeera - at least not the news of it happening while it happens. That news will be on twitter, and on FriendFeed. I support people delivering the news. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Also: I truly believe that thought and words carry the ultimate power. If we all sit here and think about, and talk about violence as a solution, it will come to that. If we all sit and think about, and talk about the power of speech over the power of guns, that is what will come to be. Support speech with me. And remember Moushimi, supporting speech is not the same as taking sides. I would support both sides' rights to speak. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Robert I respectfully disagree. The us is the home And beacon of freedom loving people everywhere. It seems to me that most of the protestors want a strong show of support from the us administration. The eu has been much for forceful in their condemnation of the regimes behavior. I am a proud republican and want Obama to so much much more than he has. Like it or not we are accused of meddling anyway so we may as well truly meddle. - Zachary Adam Cohen

Rob, you said it all! US and European governments can't continue to 'ignore' facts and truths spread on the Internet when their own people are buzzing about them. That's why too many unfair infos can lead to horrible 'mistakes'. Horrible but sometimes wanted or even provoked mistakes! We are talking about billions $$$, but about billions of lifes too! - Thierry R. Andriamirado

"Gandhi contrasted satyagraha (holding on to truth) with “duragraha” (holding on by force), as in protest meant more to harass than enlighten opponents. He wrote: “There must be no impatience, no barbarity, no insolence, no undue pressure. If we want to cultivate a true spirit of democracy, we cannot afford to be intolerant. Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause." [http://ff.im/4g7Oe] - MikeAmundsen

Zachary, talking about 'home and beacon of freedom', once again I'll try to talk about nothing but just what I know: Madagascar, as an example. Believe me or not, but we in Madagascar have 'notions' of freedom too! We too have deep culture of 'how to protect peace' etc.. We too are Human, we too love our country as you love yours. We have brains (yes we do!) and can recognize it when... more... - Thierry R. Andriamirado

the best running commentary on the US foreign policy (among other things) is done by one Fred, at http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Fra... - Michael Bravo

There is a world outside US and Twitter. It doesn't reside in 'color' and has a mind of its own. It's called Asia - http://3.ly/tbE. Will Obama walk the walk as he talked the talk in Egypt? He should know Asia/Arab/Muslim world are watching him too. - Moushumi Kabir

Tamar Weinberg

when my newborn son is hungry, he tries to eat his clothes, my hair, and anything he can get his mouth near. it's so very cute.

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That raises interesting questions about how babies learn what is and isn't acceptable to eat. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

congrats by the way - mjc

Ask him if he'd like to see the wine list....'We have a lovely 2009 LEFT, or the surprisingly full-bodied RIGHT....I recommend a little from both, to provide the much needed balance during your dining experience here at 'Chez MomzBoobz'. - Morgan Haley

Morgan: at his Bris, he was fed a little wine as part of the ceremony. He HATED it. He is just like his mommy. :) - Tamar Weinberg

Audrey had a little wine at Pesach. She loved it. :( - Rochelle

Rochelle, I told you that you shouldn't have had that glass when she was in the womb! ;) - Tamar Weinberg

So does the cat we're fostering! LOL - Jorge Escobar

Robert Scoble

Hahah @karaswisher makes me laugh. See why here:

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http://kara.allthingsd.com/2009060... is her counter point to my article. - Robert Scoble

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She makes me laugh because she counter points my own article calling her and Walt Mossberg wrong for calling the 2010 web "Web 3.0." Lots of good points, except her defense of why she isn't on friendfeed is TOTALLY lame. - Robert Scoble

and she used "wronger" - Jesse Stay

Those are relatively sophisticated reasons to laugh. I just liked the Scooby Dumb picture. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo

doesn't include twitter or friendfeed in the sharing module - Michael Metz

Reply with a line by line retort, Robby x - David Lloyd

2010 web versus web 3.0, so funny :) - David Lloyd

Scooby Don't. Wow, kinda funny, but it doesn't sound like she fundamentally addressed the points that you made. I checked her Digg profile & her only friend there is Walt Mossberg. And on Twitter, she follows about 55 peeps. Not that she needs more Digg friends or Twitter followers. But what does that say about the depth of her understanding of these communities? - phil baumann

Twitter share is coming on ATD. And Phil, I thought social networks were supposed to be used the way each person wants to use them and not in the way some dictatorial types decide. - Kara

I am not on FriendFeed, because I must choose among all I can use and I find I like Twitter and Facebook best. Am trying out other stuff, but those stick. Also, I still find FF a bit more confusing, though I see why people like it. - Kara

It's lame to pass judgment on which services a person uses. As long as they participate in the conversation, listen, and add value. That would be like criticizing me for not using video. I just suck at it, so I don't. - Francine Hardaway

Thanks, Francine! But, apparently, some pigs are more social than others. - Kara

Kara, I also like Twitter and FB best, although sometimes I get involved in a discussion here because they are fun, especially around GG or TWiT - Francine Hardaway

Kara - I didn't say anything of the sort that you're implying. We all use these services the way we want. What I was questioning was your depth of understanding of these communities. I'm no expert. But: are you? - phil baumann

Exactly. Like this. But now I gotta go get dinner for the kids, which might not be social, but is MUCH more fun. - Kara

Didn't we have this argument about a year ago? Or am I having a case of Deja Vu? - Jesse Stay

You were commenting on how I use social tools. That would be EXACTLY none of your business. It's that kind of know-it-all attitude that keeps regular people from participating. I am not an expert, nor did I ever say I was in the Scooby piece, but you seemed to find out exactly how I use stuff. I don't have any idea how you do, nor do I care. It's your ride around the planet, so knock yourself out. - Kara

Also, I hope everyone knows that we were having fun with Robert, whom I love as does ATD. He is just the kind of passionate and enthusiastic user of all kinds of Web tools that everyone can appreciate (even if we don't agree on naming of Web eras). - Kara

I just like that Robert got Kara to comment on FriendFeed ;) - Jesse Stay

Blabby? first time I've heard the term. - Carolyn Wood

There is a certain irony that the lovely Kara replied on FF - David Lloyd

Kara - I was just asking a question. I didn't suggest any amount of knowledge. If I'm upsetting you right now, then I'll stop commenting. - phil baumann

Good entertainment. - Chris Rogers

- nice banter- Kara - I think it worked;-) - Carolyn Wood

Chris - yes. A healthy dose of sparks. - phil baumann

Really is a silly argument about Semantics, with the exception of the Friendfeed thing, Rob thinks its a crucial part of the 2010 web, Kara thinks one should be able to choose what sites are important for themselves. - David Lloyd

Hi Kara: I love you too. If I didn't I wouldn't debate you. I will come back to your other points when we open Building43. - Robert Scoble

And I think "wronger" isn't a word :-P - Jesse Stay

I also replied ALL OVER TWITTER! - Kara

I am so following you. - Carolyn Wood

Scooby, you are SO terminated when Google becomes self-aware! (Then again, they are gunning for me right now due to my opposition to Yahoogle!) - Kara

Mark: Kara will figure out why friendfeed is so important soon. Mark Zuckerberg today told me it is interesting. - Robert Scoble

Wronger is not a word. It is a joke word, though! - Kara

Kara it's okay - Robert called me an idiot on his blog. It's all love. :) - Jesse Stay

Kara, I was joking too - I just thought the whole semantics debate was funny so thought I'd join in. - Jesse Stay

Mark Zuckerberg! Well, if the Prophet of Palo Alto says so, then we all must follow! (actually, he is probably trying to buy it now that the Twitter guys dissed him and his $500M in stock and cash.) - Kara

where else besides FF can you watch an entertaining debate unfold like this?... nowhere I've found... making my morning here much more enjoyable reading this - MarkHirsch

Actually, I LIKE wronger. Let's all agree--if Zuck approves, of course--to use it all the time, - Kara

I think Kara has doubled the number of friendfeed comments in this thread alone. :-) hey Kara wait until you discover the search engine. - Robert Scoble

Kara, as long as I can use "funner" - Jesse Stay

Oh, god Robert, no more! I am really a bad parent and now might have to resort to take-out pizza. - Kara

How about: Funnierest - Kara

Wait, that sounds like it should be illegal. - Kara

Kara: I am a bad parent too. Come over and we will have a pizza party! - Robert Scoble

Kara, I like "more funnierest" better though - Jesse Stay

Predictions for the web in 2010? - David Lloyd

Phil: You were not upsetting me! I just think it odd that you report on my social practices. Both Walt and I embrace the whole shebang, unlike a lot of other folks in journalism, and we get dinged for not using each and every tool. Like I said, different strokes for different folks (which actually sounds naughty when you type it out like this) - Kara

Mark, the 2010 web will be more funnierest - Jesse Stay

and less wronger - Jesse Stay

The thing is tho Kara, FF really is a wonderful website, it's like Twitter Plus - David Lloyd

Oh, hmm, predicitions: Screen ubiquity; explosion of touch, gesture, etc across all devices; social embedded in everything and now just here or on FB; real-time becomes useful; and, just wishful thinking for a decade now, the easy use of Web on TV - Kara

Robert: Pizza with you and your spawn? My kids are like a pair of Dennis the Menaces. Do you have armor for yours? - Kara

Kara, my big add to all of that: Open - Jesse Stay

I know FF is great and, post-D, I will try to use it more. But if I end up liking another tool better, I want NO guff. - Kara

How bout we call it The Mongooses? The Fighting Mongooses? - Matthew DeVries

Open? A given. - Kara

Rikki Tikki Tavi - Kara

You just know right now Robert is in Wordpress editor typing up an epic piece about this whole thing - David Lloyd

Oh, another GIVEN - Kara

I think FriendFeed is sucking Kara in - careful, it's addictive - Jesse Stay

Oh, I do the same on Twitter. - Kara

Kara - I understand. I was just coming from the angle you just referenced regarding journalists and it's clear from your interaction here that you're thankfully countries away from some of your peers....Anyhoo, I'd like to see more face-off between you and Robert. I think Robert's on to something and your perspective adds another dimension. You should interview each other. Then we can duke it out on FF again. :) - phil baumann

kinda googley addictive hmmm - Carolyn Wood

I don't think the in person interview would work, Robert would probably be overwhelmed by Kara's personality and just huddle in a corner! - David Lloyd

First question Kara could ask: "Why do you leave companies after 18 months!" ouch! hehehe - David Lloyd

But most people in the IT industry could be asked that one! - John W Lewis

hehe - David Lloyd

Kara and Robby say hello to Techmeme - David Lloyd

Insignificant blabble. Don't these people ever do anything meaningful. If you round off the percentage of people who are "involved with social media" the result is 0. - Gary Sanders from BuddyFeed

I enjoyed the article, especially this part: "We. Don’t. Use. FriendFeed. Regularly. As I said, we use Twitter, we use Facebook, we use SMS, we use blogging and we use a whole lot more. In fact, between us, we try out pretty much everything." -- would you agree that their list appears to be broadcast oriented and not discussion oriented? - LPH™ and his dog P™

Why on earth would they want to engage in discussion. They're have to give up 50% of the airtime. Neither of them wants to do that. For them engagement *is* broadcast. They talk. People listen (at least in their minds). That's their interpretation of engagement. hehehe - Ken Camp

My favourite line was "Oh, Scooby-Don’t…" - Nicholas James

Kara, Like your FF comments better than Twitter..Its more interactive...:)... - venkat

Hmm, not surprised Zuckerberg finds Friendfeed "interesting" since Facebook "borrowed" several features from it. - Laura Norvig

Phil: We have debated live! Love Scoobs. - Kara

At a Fortune Brainstorm event last year. It was dicey but fun - Kara

Googley addictive sounds ominous. - Kara

Oh, Scoobs likes to get around and I like that in a man. - Kara

Gary: Social media is important and someday so pervasive we will not be debating it. - Kara

LPH: No, I think I have a lot of interaction with folks on Twitter. A ton, in fact. It can be just as reactive, etc. - Kara

Ken: That's a long graph there for a listener and all. But attack us all you like! We love that too. - Kara

I love responding in Twitter too as it requires I be pithy. - Kara

I am and will always be a big fan of Robert Scoble and Scooby-Do. Sometimes at the same time. - Kara

Um, Kara? It was GooHoo. Goo. Hoo. I stand by that. - Andrew Feinberg

Oh cool Louis Gray just left (we spent the evening playing with our kids). I should blog but have had enough fun for the evening! - Robert Scoble

Robert, what? The two of you together and no pictures on FriendFeed? - Jesse Stay

...I like "Scooby" more than "Scobelizer"...it's more warm and fuzzy. Scooby, why don't you go with Shaggy to investigate Web 3.0. Me, Daphne and Velma will hang out with the cool kids at E3, signed Freddie - .LAG liked that

Jesse: don't we post enough baby photos already? ;-) Maryam made an awesome meal, though. - Robert Scoble

Robert you can never have too many baby photos :) - Jesse Stay

Jesse, I took baby photos (and Milan). Want me to post them? - Louis Gray

Louis, yes, please - do I need to ask? :) - Jesse Stay

Sweet? Let me regroup! - Kara

Um, YAHOOGLE - Kara

Scooby goes for baby talk! Now, I look mean. - Kara

Also, I am Velma. OBVI. - Kara

no comment <<-- noise - Pico Seno

Hey Kara, does your level of activity on this thread mean you might possibly consider participating on FriendFeed more? If so, I'm totally subscribing. - EricaJoy

Favorite Kara quote: "You must know that mainstream users don’t pay one bit of attention to any and all of the dumb terms Silicon Valley comes up with." Word. - Aaron D'Souza

Aaron: actually that is very wrong. I hear "Web 2.0" used in mainstream press/media all the time. Which is one reason I hate the name because most people think it is new and not nine years old already. - Robert Scoble

True Robert, but she said "mainstream users" not "mainstream press/media" :) - Aaron D'Souza

This is inside baseball. I agree with Kara. The only people who care what you call it are technologists and tech journalists. End users pay absolutely no attention to these labels. - Kevin Pedraja

And I'd argue that the only reason any mainstream users are familiar with the term(s) is because the mainstream press/media made too big a deal of latching onto useless nomenclature. - Aaron D'Souza

Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

It is proven. I can find old email conversations faster in Gmail than @MVMPaula can in Outlook.

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Google Desktop's Outlook search is faster than Outlook's search. Just sayin'. - Andrew C

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Why are looking for old emails any way? Don't live in the past, live in the now! - RAPatton

lol, RAP. Needed to know exactly when a certain client decided to breach contract, and to find the email chain associated with that event. Andrew, I'll remember that when we're all forced to move to Outlook soon. ;) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Nooooooo - It's not that I dislike outlook, but I really really do not want to use it. - Brent - Loving Life

I thought this was one of those self-evident things. :) - Dan Messer

TROUTLOOK! just sayin. - mjc

RAP: *laugh*, but old emails are like gold when you need to back up your position. If you can find them. - Andrew C

Old emails, old chats, anything logged = my memory. - Michael W. May

More and more, my memory is external. (Not entirely electronic - I also have post-its around my monitors at work.) - Andrew C

Mona Nomura

You know, I get judged the most by people who advocate equality. Oh, the irony.

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How come? - Mycaptain

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That's what I want to know! - Mona Nomura

From Rizzn via Twitter: "@Mona It's about as ironical as when I'm called a racist. My Hispanic wife usually gets a kick out of that one." ...el oh el!! - Mona Nomura

As a man who advocates inequality, I still judge you. - Mike Nayyar

Which kind of equality? - moon_shadow70

Any kind of equality. - Mona Nomura

"It's like rain on your wedding day..." Honestly, advocating for equality != advocating for an end to making judgments about people. - Andrew C

So if honestly = "advocating for equality != advocating for an end to making judgments about people" what would it be if you were lying, Andrew? :) - Mona Nomura

I find it all depends whether people advocate equality in opportunity or equality in outcomes. - Glenn Slaven

Mona - I guess if I'd said "Dishonestly" instead, then I would have used the == operator. - Andrew C

Interesting conundrum, no? Occasionally, I get that too. - Helen Sventitsky

The pontificators are often the hypocrites. It seems that we often preach the lessons that we most need to learn ourselves. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

As of late, I noticed it's more defensive people. There are way too many defensive people in the world. Lighten up! - Mona Nomura

You tell'em, Mona! - ha3rvey (Ho)^3

small price to pay for being awesome. - John Wang

/me checks to see if he's been judging Mona - Alex Scoble

Hey, don't judge my judgment! ;) - Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)

@Mona, I see your WIN flag has carried over another day..... you must have 'RESTORE WIN STATUS AFTER REBOOT' also enabled ;) - Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)

"DOES NOT COMPUTE" ... re-compiling. ;) - Mona Nomura

You know you and I disagree about a lot of things, but I think you're great :) - anna sauce

and that wasn't a bitchy or ironic smiley. - anna sauce

I know - I heart you Anna! I think it's great we disagree on a lot of things but still find the other awesome! - Mona Nomura

Ross Miller

Let the fun begin!!!

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Yay!!! It has arrived! So glad you have some fun ahead putting it all together!! :) - Skye Miller

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@DavidFeng How are you accessing Twitter from Beijing right now?

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Duncan Riley

Twitter Needs to Buy TweetDeck - http://staynalive.com/article...

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;-) http://twitpic.com/6f0zc

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HAHAHAHA - Johnny Worthington

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You guys, this image is SO huge! HAHA - Mona Nomura

Lol - Farzad

Ignore! :D - MissSaghar

ترابلشوتینگ: to solve your problem you must shut down your computer and fuck yourself immedately! - M∂hmood

eAHAoeuhAEOUAEhoaehoueaH - MustaBR

رافائل هنگ کرد! :)))))))))))))) - M∂hmood

Like for saghar :D viva MicroSoft :D :D - Farzad

They have those on Gilligan's Island. - Trish R

amazing - Marcos Vicente

This is one of my new favorites. - Kevin Bondelli

i wonder what mona is like at a flea market - she probably finds the rare gems! - Allen Stern

Too bad there isn't a StumbleUpon for flea markets. - Kevin Bondelli

Allen: Will work for free food! ;) - Mona Nomura

I want to randomly deploy this into a piece of software as an easter egg. - Kevin Bondelli

aaaahhhh, windows.... hahahahha - Melissa Maskevich

I made a Mac error pop-up to keep this one company. http://friendfeed.com/e... - Kevin Bondelli

This *still* makes me laugh out loud lollll!! - Mona Nomura

wow september? nice to see this again hehe - Alfredo

As Carlos said, I am "crate digging" . . . my feed used to be so visual. I am finding ALL sorts of posts. - Mona Nomura from IM

Oh shit that's funny! - BEX

just laughed at this one again :) - (jeff)isageek

Hehehe - Jon, the Chilled Beartato from fftogo

lol! - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Fly, little butterfly, Fly! - Martha

oh this must be at least thirty-seven years old. but still funny! - Kirill Bolgarov

It can't be THAT old; it's done in XP look-and-feel... - Karl Knechtel

Love it! - Marcos Vicente

nice! I've never seen this one before. - Phil Maxwell

- the f word - Monique

Karl, that was a joke - Kirill Bolgarov

XA x333 - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Classy. \p/ - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

Had me LOL ... Literally. - Charlie Anzman

:D:D - Orçun the Nucro

Lol - yasin ghasemi

Jeremy Toeman

It’s Official, Twitter is a Cult - http://www.livedigitally.com/2009...

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First Facebook now Twitter... - Joe Dawson

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Yeah, isn't that drug GOOODDDD? :-) - Robert Scoble

So when do we get our cult robes? Every cult has some sweet robes. - Brad Butner from twhirl

Brad: that would be cool to get Twitter robes. Then we could Tweet in our robes. - Robert Scoble

That make so much sense. - Grant Bierman

we speak your name - shaun mclane

I really really want a twitter robe! I might actually make one for myself. - D. Eda Goze

Maybe Twitter is more of a 60's hippie Burning Man type of a cult that a robed one - rob

Twitter isn't a cult - cult's generally die when their leader does and if Twitter sells (and it probably will either late '09 or '10) the founders will probably leave after a year or so, and Twitter will still be rocking ;) - Nicholas James

There are those of us that use Twitter that don't fit all five definitions of a cult, as laid out in this article. - Mike Shields

So twitter is smurfy? - Keith Barrett

Actually I see it as friendster -> myspace -> facebood -> twitter -> { friendfeed | ??? } - Keith Barrett

Robert Scoble

What are the tech bloggers missing? Your business! - http://scobleizer.com/2009...

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Sounds like an opportunity for you Robert. But if I owned a local restaurant and wanted to learn how social media would help me, I would rather learn how successful restaurateurs have utilized the tools (e.g. "How I migrated from Penny Saver to Twitter and got more customers") than read about technophile obsessions ("The Anatomy of the Twitter Worm"). Perhaps there is a need that can be... more... - Ryan Miller

Perhaps we need more niche blogs that cater to specific industries, rather than "social media experts" trying shoehorn everything into a certain template. What works for Zappos may not work for the restaurant on the corner. A good example is the http://churchcrunch.com/ blog that covers web technologies as it relates to ministry. - Daniel Sims

Maybe the reason why they can't explain the relevance to business is because it just isn't that relevant? - Brian Sullivan

I would totally agree with this. It's not just regular businesses either, record labels seem like they probably stand the most to gain from, if not mastering, at least beginning to understand social networks. - Michael Turner

So this was the reason why you made your blog so plain!! :D (http://scobleizer.com/2009...) - Jérôme Flipo

During my visit to South Africa 4 years ago, I was amazed at how SMS was integrated with people's daily lives. SMS numbers were everywhere: billboards, signs, newspapers, banks, restaurants, TV; you name it and it had a SMS number for every conceivable service/transaction/competition you can imagine. I had a similar experience in India a few years after that. It seems that small businesses should do the same with Twitter/Friendfeed/Digg usernames; display it prominently everywhere. Invite your customers. - BuzzNova

What kind of content do you want to see on such blogs? Success stories? What about Jeremiah Owyang showcasing social media at Best Buy? Is that any good? Or do you want small business case studies specifically? - Meryn Stol

IMO one of the problems with tech bloggers is that they take so many things for granted (Arrington might be an exception) and allow companies to feed them with irrelevant stuff instead of the real info their readers should know about. For example, here's a small post I've written down during FF new beta release http://bit.ly/4VkT, trying to figure out how on earth non of the attendees have asked about FriendFeed's business model, which is vital for the company's existence. - Nir Ben Yona

Nir: if you watched the entire friendfeed press conference you would have seen that they were asked about business models. I think that question is in part V at http://scobleizer.blip.tv - Robert Scoble

A clue? - Paul L. McCord Jr.

And without having to wade through all the crap what was the answer to the business model question? - Brian Sullivan

Robert: you're right. I've probably watched some edited videos without this issue. Next time I'll remember to wait for your video posts ;). Having said that, the word "monetization" came up just once, without a real effort to pursue and get tangible answers. "Right now our entire focus is increasing engagement and make FriendFeed useful to as many people as possible"...that's not something you can settle with. - Nir Ben Yona

Brian, I too originally wondered how relevant this was to some businesses. Long story short, big businesses won't really have to worry too much about social media (at least not more than just damage control, i.e. what Comcast, etc. do now on Twitter). Big businesses really only focus on reminder advertising anyway, as they've cemented themselves in their industries as major players. - Tyler Hayes

Relevancy only has to do with timing. It's the small businesses that will need to begin to understand social media. You may think that it's not relevant now, but it will be relevant to them in 10-20 years. Which means that if they get involved now then they'll be the first key players in a booming industry. Now you tell me, what small business owner is going to turn down the opportunity to see in 20/20 hindsight, only it's before the fact? As long as it's explained properly, that is ;) - Tyler Hayes

Surprised no one has mentioned Jeremiah Owyang yet - Jesse Stay

That's why I was thinking Google should have: "Google Garage", which are evenings where the company invites small businesses for a seminar, teaching them about new advertising methods and about other alternatives they have instead of traditional places like radio, papers or TV. After all, they shouldn't expect every plumber, mechanic or a tailor to know about Adwords or so. They can easily arrange these meetings, give them trial vouchers to experience internet models and drag them into the "New World". - Nir Ben Yona

Robert: You make some great points - those sites that focus on 'social media' tend to forget the sales and marketing element - which is what businesses are REALLY interested in (especially today!) Seems many in social media 'don't get' marketing and many in marketing don't get social media. - Jim Connolly

Thomas Hawk

Second Wave of Flickr/Getty Invites Being Sent “En Masse” - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

Flickr and Getty Images Begin Inviting Select Flickr Photographers Into Their Joint Stock Photography Business

January 21, 2009 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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I just got mine! Now to see what it entails... - Jauder Ho

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congrats Jauder. How many of your photos are they interested in? - Thomas Hawk

9. But they have some odd selections IMO. - Jauder Ho

FYI, upon reading the Contributer Agreement, it looks like the payment schedule goes from 20 to 30 percent depending on how the image is licensed. Getty gets to keep a good chunk of the money. - Jauder Ho

Alright, couple more observations after submitting an image. 1) Getty currently does not read IPTC/EXIF from the image thus requiring you to re-enter data. 2) Getty does not import the associated tags from Flickr 3) I am hoping that Flickr will eventually have some sort of "License this image from Getty" link on each photograph that is submitted and accepted. - Jauder Ho

Quite a few invitations went out ~1400 over the span of the two rounds. I got one. I'm going to be writing about what I've learned about the program tonight. Stay tuned. - Jim Goldstein

No invite for me. Should I be sad? - Paula W

Paula, they are inviting in waves so you still might get one. - Jauder Ho

nah, Paula, don't worry about it. I haven't gotten one either. ;) - Thomas Hawk

Why I'm not taking part http://tinyurl.com/jmg-gal... - Jim Goldstein

hmmm, my invite must have gotten stuck in one of the intartubez, too... - vicster is...

I'm not too impressed with this program, and not just because I haven't gotten an invite. It seems incredibly restrictive - they want exclusive rights (I can't even sell my own prints?), and no creative commons allowed? Lame. - Eric P

I simply don't get why Flickr just didn't build a stock photography option in house - let all photographers opt-in any and/or all of their photos to sell as stock through Flickr, to anyone who wants to commercially license the work. Flickr has the biggest and best organized database of photos in the world - why they keep outsourcing that value to third parties is beyond me. - Eric P

Eric, I agree. It could have been built much better by Flickr themselves, but I don't think the momentum or the legal clearance was there behind the project at Yahoo. It's unfortunate. I'm still waiting and reserving judgment on this program until I better see how it works and operates. - Thomas Hawk

I too would have preferred a Flickr Stock site. But failing that, I'm going the route of one of the replies to Jim's post, which is to submit a couple of pictures which in my mind are not the best of your collection. I would also point out that signing up with Getty means licensing your images for 2 years (based on my reading of the contract) with no way to remove your image if you change your mind. So consider carefully before you submit. - Jauder Ho

I was curious as to what images that Getty wants to Rights Manage so I asked on the Getty Images Contributors group and thought I would share the results http://www.flickr.com/groups... - Jauder Ho

Interesting Jauder, it seems like they've made that group private and are not allowing outsiders in to see it. That's sort of lame in my opinion. Only those approved as Getty contributors can read threads in that group. This new service is feeling more and more exclusionary all the time. I think that's bad for community. - Thomas Hawk

Hmm, I did not know that the group was private. I guess they have the right to do so but it does seem somewhat against the spirit of sharing and contributing. - Jauder Ho

I think it goes against the spirit of sharing, transparency and openness for them to make the group private as well. But then again so does requiring you to change your license on photos for sale from Creative Commons to All Rights Reserved. Personally I worry they are going about this the wrong way. By being very exclusionary they alienate the spirit of community that is a large part of Flickr. People who don't get selected feel bad. - Thomas Hawk

I think that they would do better to allow anyone to join the program and then find at least a few images from anyone's stream. If the images suck they won't sell. But creating sort of a "private club" whose photographers are "worthy" vs. the rest of us who suck sends a bad message to users from Flickr/Getty. Putting a "Members Only" sign on the group about the program only further alienates people. - Thomas Hawk

I was asked from another site, NowPublic to have my photos CC my photos and sorry can't do that. Also with Getty, even though its a big stock company, I don't think I will dip into the profit scheme either. I am in photography for integrity, quality, some fun and $. - polou/indigo_bow

Eric- Presumably Flickr thought about launching their own Flickr stock program. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Ryan Gillespie

Gabe Rivera

The first images of the actual bird strike that brought down USAIR 1549 are on Flickr: http://flickr.com/photos... Yep, Flickr!

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Dave Winer

I thought I had a lot of followers until I saw that @guykawasaki has over 27K and @leolaporte has over 67K! Wow. Them's a lot of followers.

December 16, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Dave, did you see the video we did with @guykawasaki at http://www.fastcompany.tv ? We talk about Twitter a lot. :-) - Robert Scoble

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Dave if only I could get that many followers on twitter!! :) - Paul

Shhhh, don't tell Dave to look at my Twitter account. :-) - Robert Scoble

Don't worry, Robert. Your secret's safe with the 44,251 of us. - Bruce Lewis

A new Star Machine is born. - michael silverton

wait next scoble is going to say "its not about the number of followers but more importantly who you are following!" LOL - Allen Stern

Just wait till *real* celebrities ramp up. I signed up to lance Armstrong's twitter the other day and he had 12k at that point. - Richard

Allen: you're right! - Robert Scoble

John Hodgman on City Arts & Lectures said, "As opposed to Jonathan Coulton who has some kind of weird "internet fame," I am *actually* famous." If TV and Big Screen Star Machines didn't catch the shot over the bow from Hodgman, things could get interesting. Anyone want to put odds on Old Media walking away with the thought, "puny internet spark-maker, you will never hold a candle to MY Star Machine!" - michael silverton

Robert Scoble

Personally I'm wondering about CES itself. It'll be interesting to see if it survives two more years. The CE industry is really strained.

December 16, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Too bad, the end of an era, but these shows are just too expensive to put on. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

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I miss Comdex. Fond memories of the show from the 90's and boy did I attend some great parties. Monday night football party thrown by US Robotics was always a must. - Mark Krynsky

Mark: I remember one Spencer the Katt party where Bill Gates was dancing with a General's wife and had his hands all over her. Yeah, wild times! - Robert Scoble

Yes it will be one that will be interesting to see. Personally I think the companies need CES more than MacWorld needs Apple!! - Paul

Yeah, why bother with these shows when you can learn about everything on the internet anyhow. - Alex Scoble

It's all about meeting people. I'm still debating and seeing if I can go. - Ben Parr

I think with unconferencss & twitterups, etc new ways of networking that's more meaningful are making big trade shows unduly expensive - anna sauce

Why would these BIG companies want to pay for exposure when they could do it on Friend Feed. That is what boggles my mind, Don't you think? - Paul

Paul: http://www.friendfeed.com/seagate -- I think you have a point! Speaking of which, on Thursday I'll be at Seagate and tell them to post more cool stuff they are seeing happen in the market. - Robert Scoble

Scoble: Thanks I didn't know they were here. Any other companies you want to throw out and let me know about. i just subscribed to that one!!! - Paul

While I do agree with you that more people watch Endgadget at CES than attend where will Endgadget go if there is no CES? - Chris Johnston

Chris: Where they always go. They get there news on the web so they will still have news. :) - Paul

Robert, what year was that party. I was at the 98 party and saw something similar. Dancing with some lady, twice. He can't dance. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Eric: that sounds like the same year. It was around that time. - Robert Scoble

CES will go as well, but will take longer to do it. Tradeshows have been going downhill since around 2001 (9/11 + Dot Com Bust?). It's an end of an era, but the start of something else. Apple and other companies can't stop promoting, they'll just do it in other ways - smaller, less expensive groups, internet, social media, etc. - David Bisset (sn)

HA-HA, that is too funny. I tell that story all the time, too often I'm sure. I should've grabbed the Miller Light he was drinking. I could have cloned him and put all my money in Mini-Microsoft. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Does anyone worry that "non-trade" shows/symposia/meetings like SXSW will end up being invaded by the vendors and morphing them into quasi trade shows? - Matthew DeVries

Matthew: if that happens we will twitter around them. :-) - Robert Scoble

Ahhh, I miss Comdex too. HPs Chili cookoff was always fun. And, the parties/concerts (Eddie Money, Brian Setzer, etc) were fab! - Betsy Weber

Interesting reading the various comments about people lamenting the loss of the parties. Kind of points out the inefficiencies of these events. - Loren Heiny

Yes, inefficient, but lots of fun. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

@Eric, I particularly enjoy meeting people I would otherwise never meet at large events like these on the showroom floor, at a dinner party, etc. The large draw brings in interesting people of all backgrounds. - Loren Heiny

Friend of mine worked at the Ritz (this is on the Bill Gates skank factor) and said he had 2 call girls waiting for him in his room, and ate out of it for 3 days. The hotel room, people. Minds in the gutter! - anna sauce

Not sure these big expos are forever dead. Video-calls and meetings are great, social media gets there, but I'm dead certain fairs will revive. - Paul Papadimitriou

Wow, I'm the only one who thinks the era this is signalling the end of is the era of Steve? Sure, it's another sign that these big tradeshows day's are numbered, we all knew that. We also knew that Apple was in big need of succession planning, but we didn't see much evidence that they were acting on it until now. - Erik S

Just like Comdex, where it also disappeared - Alvin

I think CES will survive, but it's not going to be the tech trendsetter event of the past, but back more to the original roots of toaster ovens, telephone handsets, stereos etc. You have to remember that probably 85% of the things at CES every year have absolutely nothing to do with the Internet and what is considered 'high tech'. - Andrew Leyden

Andrew: I know, I've been going to CES since the 1980s. I hope you're right, because I love going to a show where I can compare AV, TV's, and stuff like that. Of course that could be done in a far smaller show than what it is today. - Robert Scoble

I think it'll be around for a bit, unless attendance has been down? It's so huge, and I agree - it's so nice to have one place to see everything. - Patricia

Patricia: attendance seemed down in 2008, but hotel rooms are available now for under $300 a night so I bet attendance will be way down in 2009. - Robert Scoble

I've never been before, so I'm really excited to go this year. Maybe CES just needs new people to appreciate it? :) - Sarah Perez

Keith Coleman

Official Gmail Blog: New in Labs: Turn an email into a Google doc - http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008...

December 16, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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The new "g-w" keyboard shortcut to create a Google doc saves me so much time. - Keith Coleman from Bookmarklet

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This thing came out of left field. I hadn't seen or heard about it until now. Love how fast we're moving lately. Woo hoo! - Michael Leggett

I found out about it when I was looking thru the code and saw an experiment with a useful sounding name. We'd talked about adding something like this a while ago -- thank you to Jeremie for just doing it :) - Keith Coleman

I love these Gmail Labs addons, but I really wish non-Googlers could write them. :) - Ray Cromwell

The Gmail platform, when it arrives, is going to be amazing :) - Ashwin Bharambe

Who was it that said all software expands until it supports email? - Amit Patel

But now it's "until it supports Google Maps" - Bay Chang

@amit, Jamie Zawinsky, but he didn't say anything about email supporting word processing - Ken Norton

Steven Hodson

Economic downturn sucks ass - http://www.winextra.com/index...

December 16, 2008 from WinExtra - Comment - Like - Share

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I don't want to read this for fear that the content doesn't live up to the excellence of the title. - Rob Diana

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I read it, and the content does live up to the excellence of the title. - Ontario Emperor

Mark ‘Rizzn’ Hopkins is out at Mashable? Awful, awful, awful. - Hutch Carpenter

Hutch, I agree. Mark was one of the Mashable writers I really enjoyed reading. He is a very talented writer. I hope he finds a new home soon. - Mike Fruchter

what a effin shame. - Zee.

@hutch .. no kidding .. time to start clearing out my Mashable related contact info. Like I said in the post I can understand lay-off in this this climate but the way <b>my friend</b> was dealt with in this case is just wrong. I can't support a company that has acted the way Mashable has in this instance (much of what can't be expressed). Supporting a friend is much more important in my cranky opinion. - Steven Hodson

Wow, that sucks. I know that feeling of being cut off suddenly too, though it was at least a phone call for me. I enjoy Mark's writing, hope he lands on his feet elsewhere soon. - Karoli

I will echo here what I said on the blog. Mark was the best writer Mashable had. It is a damn shame, but I am sure he will not be available for long. - Rob Diana

While there is always two sides to the story, canning him the week before Christmas was NOT the right thing to do. - Mike Fruchter

@Rob .. it is a damn shame and one that makes no sense what so ever - Steven Hodson

Brian Duffy, the editorial cartoonist in Des Moines, Iowa for over 25 years! was let go last week and wasn't even allowed to go back to his desk to get his personal belonging. They had security escort him out. He never saw it coming, either. Yep, it stinks. - Dawn

@Karoli .. even thought Mark was well know for getting people riled up during the election cycle it doesn't detract from the fact that as far I am concerned he is one of the best bloggers out there. He deserved better treatment. - Steven Hodson

A few things here. I think Mark will land on his feet. He's hard working, smart and a good writer. It would make an interesting venn diagram. But the timing ... well ... would it be better to wait until just *after* the holidays. Happy new year! Okay, maybe we wait until February. What? The lovey-dovey Valentine's Day month? Look, bad news sucks any time. And having been on the end of it ... it's sometimes not that bad in the short term. Freedom! New frontiers and all that. - AJ Kohn

Mike, the Christmas thing is fairly typical. It is the end of the calendar year, so people are cutting costs at the end of the year. Not saying it is a good thing, just that it is typical business practice. - Rob Diana

AJ, perhaps you're right about new frontiers. Anyone know the background behind this? http://rizzn.com/blog... - Ontario Emperor

@Ontario: The plot thickens ;) - AJ Kohn

not a post I want to like - really sucks, but I'm sure Mark will land on his feet. He was one of the main reasons why I read Mashable. - Frederic

Ontario - thanks for pointing that out. I left him a comment. - Hutch Carpenter

@Frederic I'm hoping as well that he lands on his feet real soon as well. - Steven Hodson

I recently reached to whom I thought was the blog editor at CNET, only to find she was among the estimated 20% of cuts there. I've been helping out friends who've been laid off by software companies, and I imagine the carnage is even worse in media. Good people eventually land on their feet, but that doesn't make the experience any less painful. - Daniel Tunkelang

Check the @rizzn Twitter feed for a link to a bit of explanation. - Ontario Emperor from fftogo

@Ontario: Thanks for the pointer - looks like rizzn is feeling pretty good about things. - AJ Kohn

Ouch. - Mike Reynolds

His latest update: http://rizzn.com/blog... - Jess Lee

Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Just because I'm a tech and productivity blogger, does NOT mean I won't speak the truth. I couldn't care less about "follows"

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Rahsheen: I only care about the hugs. Here's one for you. - Robert Scoble

I am new to all of this Rahsheen. So can you tell me...what is exactly is a tech and productivity blogger? - Adriana

Man...and here I thought you were like a fitness guru...guess that's what happens when I don't read your blog....<goes off and starts reading Rahsheen's blog> - Alex Scoble

Well, Alex, I guess I'm that, too...and an artist/musician...LOL - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Adriana, just means I mostly blog about technology or how to be more productive/successful....mostly :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Yeah, it's funny how tech and productivity blogger is so much more limiting than the reality. - Alex Scoble

Wait, what's the painful truth today Rah? I haven't seen anything inflammatory in this space lately. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Oh, nothing specific at this point, Daniel. Just had a few thoughts floating threw my head and this was one of them :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

I am on the fence about "speaking the truth". I certainly don't lie or misdirect but I am not completely comfortable laying into people who deserve it. I'm not quite rich or powerful enough to comfortably speak my mind day in and day out. - Daniel J. Pritchett

I definitely respect your position there, Daniel. I'm not as outspoken as some, but if I feel the need to "lay into" somebody and they actually get upset about it and take it as a personal attack, I probably didn't want to associate with them anyway. :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Last year, I was reminded that I could say something that could hurt how well a product did in the marketplace. I was blogging a good deal more, then, than I am, now. That kind of took the wind out of my sails. Realizing this helps me understand why I don't produce, now. I need to find a balance before I can start again. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Minimage...don't you think it's the consumer's responsibility to make sure that good products get heralded and that bad products get vilified? I sure think so. - Alex Scoble

The thing was, I was getting to play with a product before it was ready to be offered to the public. Any opinions I'd formed before the device went live could color my perception of the device that was being offered to the public. When the companies' rep pointed this out, and I realized what a few careless words could do to God knows how many people who'd poured their hearts and souls into making their dream real, it was frightening. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

I haven't really answered the question, though. Yes, the truth must be told. However, manufacturers must be given the chance to make things right. The bloggers' responsibilities are to let the producers know where they need to improve, without killing their chances of making good. That is a serious responsibility. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Rasheen, can I just call you a renaissance man and leave it at that? :D - Helen Sventitsky

I tend to agree with that, MiniMage. I try to offer constructive criticism where possible. Helen, that'll work for me...although it makes me think of oil paintings and statues...lol - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

I love how FriendFeed makes me realize something about myself. I don't think I understood how much the rep's words affected me until now. It's possible I tried to solve my conundrum by ceasing the flow of words, but this solution isn't satisfactory. I must simply learn to choose my words carefully. I have access to a million examples of how to do this, I'm sure. I just need to do some more reading. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Thus speaketh MiniMage: " I must simply learn to choose my words carefully." Not sure what it says about me that it took the Panoptic Web to make me seriously measure the significance of this timeless universal truth. Please, do not feel compelled to help me out on this one, thanks. :-) - michael silverton

Molly, "sorry"

Funny Cat Photos - http://blog.esaba.com - http://blog.esaba.com/project...

December 16, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Meow to you good chap! I approve of this kitteh - Nicholas Kreidberg

Zee.

Passionate about Twitter? - http://twitpic.com/sceh

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you're nothing on http://www.twitter.com/carolin... ... :) - Zee. from Bookmarklet

@caroline has a neat license plate. - Nicholas Kreidberg

Sarah Perez

Live Mesh: The Killer App for Netbooks - http://blogs.msdn.com/stevecl...

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I love mesh - Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)

me too :) - Sarah Perez

Robert Scoble

I had an interesting conversation today withTumblr's CEO about how microblogs can make money. Tons of ideas! Twitter will do well, we think.

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So the question is, are any of them viable? What's your take? - mikepk

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Twitter has several options to make money. Just waiting for them to pick one. - David Risley

twitterific is already making money, and that's a client app using the API. So no wonder if twitter makes money :) - directeur

Well there's make money and there's "get the return the VCs/investors are looking for". Very different animals. - mikepk

Ontario Emperor

retweeting @rizzn: A bit of explanation. http://rizzn.com/blog...

December 16, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Dolmar Cross

The blackberry storm is starting to get on my nerves now.

December 16, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Why? - Shawn Farner

Rob Williams

putting my mail on hold through the post office's website - great service: https://dunsapp.usps.gov/HoldMai...

December 16, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Louis Gray

Are bloggers & social networks killing the big shows? - http://scobleizer.com/2008...

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Steve Rubel

Steve Jobs is definitely sick. This is very late for them to make this announcement.

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More here http://valleywag.com/5111912... - Steve Rubel

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It sure seems like Steve Jobs is sick. I just heard Valleywag's Owen Thomas on KGO Radio talking about that. - Robert Scoble

Before this gets out of control, Jim Goldman has sources in Apple telling him its purely political, that Jobs health has nothing to do with this http://www.cnbc.com/id... - MG Siegler

Shit again - generation e, y, x, ... bless him... I'm sure he will come out with something that we don't know up to now! - Erhan Erdogan

Apple wouldn't make their decision to pull out of future MacWorld expos based on Jobs's health. If his health is why he's not giving this keynote then the two matters are unrelated, and that seems like a big coincidence. More likely they couldn't meet an internal deadline and decided not to pre-announce, and Jobs decided it was time to stop trying to meet an external schedule, and the straw broke Apple's Expo-attending back. - Kevin Fox

Another possibility, whatever they were going to announce aint ready. - Steve Rubel

If it's not his health, then he must be worried that the Violet Blue person will come near him again. EEE eee ee! - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

+1 mini, but i buhleeve it's spelt Violent Blue ;-) - Karim

If Macworld consistently provides a big boom to your sales every year and the investors/stockholders love it, would you press forward with another Macworld in today's economy knowing that it won't be as successful, or would you end it until favorable economic conditions return? Maybe this "move" to end Macworld is all about retaining the confidence of the stockholders. - Mitch

Obviously people in the know knew about this for a long, long time. Why do you think Adobe pulled out of MWSF? - Mark Trapp

Karim, her web site: http://tinynibbles.com/ - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

oh... wasn't that a reference to Fake Steve Jobs and "Violent" Blue? http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008... - Karim

No, sorry, this was the actual Violet Blue talking about how Steve Jobs called her rude for wanting a picture with him. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13... - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

I am betting he is sick too because of all the hype over this. I bet he doesn't have long t live!! - Paul

Fake Steve Jobs actually linked to her website. I just thought it was funny that he changed her name and claimed he was a victim of assault. - Karim

Definitely funny! - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Tris Hussey

Whoa, takes time to catch up on RSS, but I learned that Google Sync for Blackberry now syncs contacts! Woohoo! One address to rule them all!

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