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Everyone writing these protocols need to get together and decide on the benefits of each and come to decision on a single standard. It seems all these different protocols are distracting from each other. - Jesse Stay

I think competing projects like this are generally beneficial to the cause. The community will decide on it eventually. - Meryn Stol

That is, Birdfeeder vs OpenMicroBlogging. - Meryn Stol

loks like a lot of POSTs and very few GETs. basically ignores caching. - MikeAmundsen

Jesse: As long as the different proposals are exploring different solutions then it's healthy. The OMB folks are mostly on Identica but they're aware of BirdFeeder. - Adewale Oshineye

Is there a spec in there somewhere? - Dave Winer

If you mean for OMB then 0.1: http://openmicroblogging.org/protoco... and 0.2 is currently in progress: http://gitorious.org/project... If you mean BirdFeeder then the guy behind it hasn't had time to do that yet. He does have running code though. - Adewale Oshineye

Jesse, when you say "all these protocols" do you have any in mind other than OMB and FETHR? - Michael R. Bernstein

Dave: The spec is a moving target; I'm working on it, still shaking out some details of the gossip protocol. — Mike: It's a push protocol. I don't ask you for news, you tell me news. What's to cache? - Daniel Sandler

Also: I'm aware of OMB, and I like the look of 0.2. But FETHR takes a fundamentally different approach to authentication; by securing objects rather than channels, FETHR allows objects to be shared/redistributed (avoiding a microblogging version of the RSS Bandwidth Problem™). I'll write up this design point soon, probably in a dsandler.org post. - Daniel Sandler

intrigued by what's being tackled by fethr, especially gossip as a scaling solution (related to the obscenely popular) and how micro-messaging is only a sample application of the protoco(s). - sull

conjuring up the notion of users "joining" and the why/where of their point of entry. i can sort of see it similar to ISP provided email service... where you can use a gateway to this micro-messaging utility. maybe a website would sprout that manages all these gateways so a user can easily begin based on some type of criteria (ISP, Geo-Location, Content Niche etc). Of course, ideally... more... - sull

cool - Meryn Stol

Since when has this been out? - Meryn Stol

Last time I checked this wasn't actually a usable product. Has that changed? - Adewale Oshineye

It's ok for Twitter to be like Compuserve. This is the next iteration of the Internet. History does not repeat. Open your mind. Just because your hate of walled gardens worked the first time around,don't assume you will prevail this time. Walled gardens work in many ways. Let them be. - Prokofy Neva

"Walled gardens are no problem when anyone can come inside." - Meryn Stol

Prokofy: I'll see your assertion with a "those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it" and raise you a "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce" - Adewale Oshineye

Adewale: Usable? Not sure about that—it's very rough researchware. But you can download and play with the prototype code now. - Daniel Sandler