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DYSP: The WoW FF Guild
The official group for the FriendFeed World of Warcraft guild. We are Alliance on the Silvermoon server. Vent: sj1.ugt-servers.com. Port:23620, pw:DYSP1234
One of our ToGC raiding mages. he's an awesome dude, and a great mage! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Renkou in conclave of shadows on magtheridon :)
- mjc
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Wow.
- Lindsay
oh my gosh. Amazing.
- Miriella
Post the stupid(est) toon names you come across in this thread.
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Jrswomentwo <-- implies there's also a Jrswomenone. But in that case, womEn not womAn makes sense, right?
- Lindsay
Dahottchic <-- how did I NOT snag this one before it was gone??
- Lindsay
Fustercluck <-- Classy!
- Lindsay
DaHammer --- hehehe..
- CW™
There's no Jrswomenone but there is a Jrswomen. :D
- Victor Ganata
Cirenitram (his name in real life is Eric Martin)
- mjc
Healsforsecs
- mjc
Colorfullfart <-- sigh
- Lindsay
I've duelled that guy several times. He's nice but I told him his toon name HAS to go. All his toons have "fart" in the name.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Facesitter <- oh dear
- Lindsay
Throbhammer <- ummm no.
- Lindsay
Lazerturkey <- if he wasn't lvl 80 I'd think he was a rouge for turkeying for the Pilgrim stuff.
- Lindsay
HelloKitteh <- ok, I had to giggle at that one.
- Lindsay
Any name where the player was so completely incapable of thinking of something original that they had to use accent marks. I've got the "how to type it" thing down (chatter or prat) but it's irritating.
- mjc
I pretty much refuse to interact with anyone for whom I can't type their name... Not worth my time to figure out how to do it... They're "dead" to me.
- Lindsay
I feel the same way. If there's non-standard characters in their name, they're just another NPC.
- Internet's Tad
Can't you just shift+click? (/me likes using accent marks in toon names, even when there aren't other players with names without accents :D)
- Victor Ganata
Didn't know that Victor!
- Internet's Tad
@Lindsay dunno why, but when you wrote '"dead" to me', I giggled, as my DK is "deadlikeme" :p
- mjc
When chatting with someone in-game, does anyone ever actually use more than the first few letters of someone's toon's name?
- Victor Ganata
Not really. :) Even in Vent, I get called "Tiny" or "Funky". I keep requesting to be called "Ms. Pants" but nobody complies. Your toon, however...I don't think it's possible to shorten yours and not look like an asshole. Which is why I just call you Vic. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Heh, out-of-game, people have been known to shorten my real name just to V. And not just when typing.
- Victor Ganata
Ok now that's just lazy and sad. LOL Then again, I have friends who literally call me "A". But that stems back to it being something I was called online for a number of years. So it's not lazy, it's endearing. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I do when typing, I type the first three letters and hit tab
- mjc
Onemanwoman
- Lindsay
Hummina - just kidding ;)
- Kamala Whitaker
There's a well known pally on Firetree called Holyhawtness with an alt names Lilhawtness. They annoy the $h*t out of me. There's a lot of pot reference names too but honestly none are memorable.
- Heather
Putting on my gameface for mah FF guild run!
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Why yes. Yes those *are* pigtails. Or handlebars, if you prefer.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
cuteness!
- holly
Sorry had an errand to run, logging in now!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
from IM
If Strawberry Shortcake was a brunette!
- Ken
If only I smelled as good...
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
And rockin' the Claddagh
- Christopher Harley
hahahaha...sorry can't repeat
- Zehnchu
@Christopher: Yup, that I am. :) It's technically on the wrong hand, but the heart is facing the right way...
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Your secret is safe with an Irishman.
- Christopher Harley
You'll notice that that phrase has never been uttered anywhere on the internet. http://www.google.com/search...
- Christopher Harley
Oh woman, you are so cute!!!!
- Miriella
You are too cute!
- Laura H.
OMAN are those your raiding gloves? My mom knit me some fingerless gloves and everyone makes fun of me. But I luff them. Yours are cutter though. ^_^ (raiding in pigtails is win)
- Heather
Just spent about 1000G on gems and enchants this evening instead of going to sleep at a reasonable hour. Am I reading this right? I'm almost ready for Naxx 10?!?! LOL! Who came up with gear score, anyway? :D
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There's a discrepancy between what an instance was intended for and what people actually want to run with: people seem to only want to take people who are out-geared for an instance, so you're looking for a green bar up to Naxx (~1700 GS; probably more for tanks). But you're totally geared for all the heroics now!
- Mark Trapp
I find that stuff to not be that accurate, but then again I'm a holy pally that doesn't do holy light, so apparently I'm breaking the game. Anyhow, it's not hard to be ready for Naxx (it's cake if you can handle strat, threat, and moving). It's more about what people will accept. Do daily heroics like whoa pants and you'll get badge gear to help out with opinion. Plus, making a good impression can get you pug invites.
- Heather
Scanning Scanning Scanning the Auction House.
I got my mind on my money and my money on my mind.
- Internet's Tad
Average gamer is 35, often overweight and sad: study
| Reuters - http://www.reuters.com/article...
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I don't know about sad... but I fit the other two categories. Also found this interesting "Adult video gamers of both sexes relied more on the Internet for social support than non-gamers, which supports prior research suggesting that adult video game players may "sacrifice real-world social activities to play video games"".
- Lindsay
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LOL... I just remembered that I'm not 35 yet... sigh... it's been a long day...
- Lindsay
Hey I'm not sad!
- Rodfather
umm.. :( The fact I am turning 35 next week does not make me happy about this which makes me sad... hate when they are right.
- CW™
Yes, rather than going to a tweetup, I spent a night SMASHING FACES in WoW! And it felt good. Not 35 yet though. And sad? When I'm SMASHING FACES! I'm usually pretty happy. But when my face gets melted, then I'm not happy. I am angry. rawr.
- Arlan Koizumi
At first I thought it was funny that the median age of the average gamer was getting older and older, but then I realized, the gamers when the average age was 20-something are now of course, older. So I think these studies are following the generation that's really the first one that started gaming.
- Arlan Koizumi
I'm not 35 and I'm not overweight, I might be sad but I'd say stressed is more accurate. Plus, I love my WoW friends, they might not come over my house but I talk to them all the time and they're great. It might not be the same quality as offline friendships, but that doesn't mean online friendships don't "count".
- Heather
25/fit& love WoW :)))
- Emir Suner
Hey guys, anyone around that can log in really quick to invite my alt to the guild? (yes, she's a DK, yes, she's my second DK, but DUDE, I had to have a Gnome DK called Tinkee!)
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Yeah I'll do it
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Woot! thanks Gunny :D
- Kamala Whitaker
no problemma
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Love the name.
- CW™
Fwd: World of Warcraft Philosophized: How to make fishing in Wintergrasp waters worthwhile - http://wowphilosophized.blogspot.com/2009... (via http://friendfeed.com/tad...)
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THANKS for posting this... I need to go fish there now and wasn't sure how to accomplish it!!
- Lindsay
Tad originally posted it in the main feed. Thought I'd add it here.
- CW™
Whoa, that's a good tip.
- Arlan Koizumi
old times @ dunemaul...
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Nice capture!
- Lindsay
Hey Gunny! I got yer sack right here! Watch where you leave it!
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haha
- mjc
Hey I'll do ya one Better. I'm an NPC in Honor Hold :)
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
I beat both of ya, I don't play WoW. :D
- Danny Minick
grats?
- Miriella
One of these days, I'll get through the Tribunal on Heroic mode without dying :D
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LOL You almost made it. At least we finished the fight, right? :P
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I was getting kinda punchy by the time we got to Brann. Quite possibly if I had been more awake, we would have succeeded.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
No, honestly, there's no way we could have. You guys need more upgraded gear on you before we can try that one again. Like I said last night, you need to focus on the preliminary heroics first to get your badge gear up before you move on to the more difficult ones. H HoS is too beefy of a heroic for this particular group.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
You really need to start out with UK, Nexus, VH, and CoS on heavy rotation. THEN move on to UP, DTK, and Gundrak. And THEN move up to AN, OK, HoS, HoL. I would not recommend Oc at all unless everyone has been doing their Wyrmrest dailies so they're familiar with drake mount fighting.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Right now, Vic's health is too low, Sean's spell power is too low, and your DPS is too low to be able to work together in H HoS. If you each ran it with a more powerful group, you'd be fine. Vic did well when I brought in a bunch of OP people to finish off the Tribunal and the last boss. He just got horsekicked by the laser beam.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
On a related note, looking at all of your gear, there is a marked lack of enchantments that could be very beneficial to all of you. Just because something is a blue or green doesn't mean it shouldn't get an enchant. Especially when you have an end-game enchanter at your disposal (me). If you're not sure what should be enchanted or what to enchant with, check yourself on WoW-Heroes. It will give you recommendations for what enchant
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I also see several empty sockets. You should always gem up your sockets, even if you have to go with a less expensive one that you can afford. Don't pass up the opportunity for additions to stats. If you're a blacksmith, you can add sockets to some of your items. You should do so. If you're a jewelcrafter, you can craft JC-only gems. Do it. And share between your professions. If you can craft an item for someone that is wayyyyy beneficial to them, then do it. LW's, BS's, and Tailors, I'm looking at you.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I thought I had started ok on gems and enchants I need better chest, hands and weapons. Since you seem to have time on your hands, why don't you compile a list of some gear I should try to acquire. :D
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Or how about this? How about y'all just keep bashing your head against the Tribunal wall while I move on to other things? I could have spent several hours working on my research paper last night instead of acquiring a 60g total repair bill, using three Flasks of Endless Rage, and dropping 7 fish feasts. I don't expect gratitude. That's not why I do this. I like running with you guys. But I'm not about to give you a helpful assessment and be met with snark. I have better things to do with my time. kthxbai.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Woah woah whoa. I was kidding. Not trying to be snarky at all. Sorry :(
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Kiss and make up, guys? Group hug? Yeah, we're sadly undergeared for that fight and definitely need more purples. I've been scouring Google for recommended gear to be ready for heroics. Here are a couple for DPS DKs: http://dancing-rune.blogspot.com/2008... and http://zerozephr.livejournal.com/213922...
- Victor Ganata
And thanks for the assessment, Amanda. It's good to know the specific reasons why we kept eating shit and dying. Gear is a lot easier to upgrade than skill :D Still, I think I've probably gotten as far as I can get with gear I can buy without dumping thousands of GPs into the AH for crafted purples. I really need to start picking up badge gear and/or leveling my BS skill.
- Victor Ganata
My lack of mana and low spell power def has a lot to do with it. I only have one purple item, and it's a ring. I seriously need better gear. I'm gonna start rep grinding as of tonight just to get some decent blues at least.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
One thing to keep in mind is that when you run with a group that's mostly overgeared (which is the case with most pugs), heroics should only take about a half-hour. You can run one or two heroics a night and get a really nice bump in your rep grinding, a few badges, experience, and possibly a few blues that should save you some time. I think waiting for DYSP-only runs, if you're interested in getting geared, is doing you guys a disservice.
- Mark Trapp
And yeah, even when running with OP groups, HoS Tribunal is still a pain in the butt. The first successful one I did we only won by dumb luck: we wiped 3 seconds before the event ended, so we got credit. The second one was only because the healer, the tank, and a DPS were in full TotC 25 gear. When I pug heroics, I try to stick with the easy fast ones: Gundrak, Violet Hold, Culling of Stratholme, and Utgarde Keep.
- Mark Trapp
Except that I hate PUGs. With a blinding fiery passion. I always get stuck in a group with a couple elitist assholes who want to tell me how to play my character, or on a single wipe freak out and start cursing everyone out. I know it's slow to wait for DYSP runs, but if the alternative is what I described above, then I'll gladly wait it out.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I dunno, I see it as free advice you don't have to take. You always have the option to leave the group if someone's being a real prick or never grouping with that person again. What do you care what a stranger thinks of how you play? You're there to get loot from them, so joke's on them. For DYSP runs though, I think we just need to run things that aren't HoS tribunal for a while: we...
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- Mark Trapp
Actually it's better for them to run it as a guild because if they continue to rely on OP people carrying them through runs, they will never improve as players. It's not just about how much shit you can pile up on your character, it's about actually LEARNING SOMETHING. Last night was the first time I've EVER failed Tribunal, and I've actually run it with gear-appropriate groups before....
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- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
We had problems on EVERY boss. And we lagged between pulls because Sean was having to mana up a lot. Just because we survived a fight doesn't mean we did it well. It means we were fucking LUCKY.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I didn't get that impression at all. I feel confident in our teamwork and always have. We need practice, sure, but no need to crap all over what we did accomplish last night. I think we all need to step away from this thread because people are getting upset. It was one run, and a late night one at that.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
If the purpose of the game, and the guild, is to have fun, I don't know what the value of doing things like this are if everyone's going to get upset with each other about how a run went. Let's do stuff that doesn't result in a nasty thread like this being created.
- Mark Trapp
Agreed, Mark. 100%.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Sean - I was speaking of one person specifically, not the entire group as a whole. We'll discuss offline if you need more information. I was already done with this thread hours ago but came back because I think advising you to just run with OP groups so you can gear up is a poor attitude to have; I don't want to see you guys getting in that rut. It makes for shitty team players and you're better than that.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Well, let's get it out in the open. There were 5 people in the group, and obviously you or Sean aren't the person you're referring to. If it was Victor, I doubt you'd have finished the run later with him. So either it's me or Gunny, and I really don't think you have a problem with Gunny. So what's your problem? What did I do that has you railing about how awful last night was?
- Mark Trapp
My problem? Well really, it seems that I *am* the problem. So what I'm going to do now is unsub from this group and when I get home, I will pull my toons from the guild. My presence has created a disharmony and it's better for y'all if I stepped completely away. I apologize if I've ruined anyone's gameplay. It was not my intention. I just wanted to help and apparently every time I do that, I just piss you all off even more. So. I'm outtie.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Come on, don't do that (if you haven't done it already). I've lurked in this group and it seemed to me you all got along more than you fought. Wouldn't it be better if you folks got together in vent or ingame and just talk things over?
- Arlan Koizumi
Re-reading the top... badge gear farming is nice, but really right now, that's trying to jump a step. Prior to the whole easy conquest badge farming, you only could farm heroism badges in heroics. That's pretty much gear before doing Naxx hardcore (just about Naxx 10-man). The gear progression should be instance/quest > rep/crafted purples > heroics/badge gear > fracking raiding...
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- Arlan Koizumi
You're right Arlan, but I'd argue that running heroics is the fastest way to gain rep (when compared to daily quests). When you can get ~1500-2000 rep from one heroic run vs. 750/day of rep for Wyrmrest, I don't think it's a bad idea to run a heroic with overpowered pugs to get what you need to run what you want. I thought last night was purely a gear issue, and to me, getting gear is a...
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- Mark Trapp
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, RANT RANT RANT.. can we now run some dungeons?
- CW™
Looking at the almighty Gear Score as a benchmark, I have one of 3217 which is BARELY acceptable for 10 man Naxx. I picked up a couple of pieces from the article Vic linked. Thanks Vic.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Hmm. What are you using to calculate Gear Score?
- Victor Ganata
I've found most people refer to the wow-heroes.com instead of the AddOn, which uses a different formula. It looks like yours is 1367 (url: http://wow-heroes.com/index...). Just adding enchants should bump that up a hundred points or so.
- Mark Trapp
*sigh* I thought The add on made me sound pretty dang good :(
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Well, you have a lot of room on your enchants :)
- Victor Ganata
Mark: I agree too. Rep grinding can be fast in heroics. But yes, "lower level" heroics would probably be better to tackle right now. When you start doing stuff like HoS, HoL, UK, things can get hairy if you don't have the basic gear for the difficulty. Unfortunately, I can't remember if doing HoS on regular will give you rep (I'm thinking only level 80 instances gives rep without it being heroic).
- Arlan Koizumi
finding enchanters who will do stuff for me NAO without Mats is the challenge :D
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Regular HoS won't (although regular HoL will.) To be sure, when we tried running H UK without anyone who was overgeared, it was kind of a struggle, although it was gratifying to make improvements and slowly get through it after each wipe. I don't think we'll be running H HoS any time soon without any overpowered assistance.
- Victor Ganata
I've been buying scrolls from the AH mostly. And then there are the enchants you can get from different factions after you grind enough rep. This is probably a lot easier than trying to get mats when you can't DE things.
- Victor Ganata
These tips will probably be old news, but if not, cool beans. Ret Pally: 1) Repentance when you can and HoJ mobs. In a learning group, every bit of cc is helpful, 2) Use instant FoL on the tank or healer if the pally's own hp is ok, 3) BoP people if they're in trouble, 4) Save LoH for tank in really hard boss fights. DK: 1) Strangulate and Mind Freeze caster mobs to help mitigate...
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- Arlan Koizumi
wait I can BUY enchants on teh AH?
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
You folks use raid icons to set primary and secondary targets? Can also use other icons to designate CC. For tanks, an alternative to enchants are armor patches. heavy borean kits give +18 stamina. Provided the tank already has head, shoulder and leg enchants, you can still get a 54 sta boost.
- Arlan Koizumi
As you solo, you should be getting a few green items. Besides selling them, give 'em to an enchanter friend to DE. And yeah, you can usually find scrolls with enchants in the AH.
- Arlan Koizumi
wow-loot.com shows you some gear you can get before raiding. I thought I saw this posted earlier but wow-gem.com is great for picking gems.
- Arlan Koizumi
I've added some enchants. I feel a little better about myself now
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
on a related note, did a 7 minute H UK today... crazy
- mjc
http://rawr.codeplex.com/ should help you figure out what gear/spec/enchants/gems to shoot for
- mjc
Up to 1411 :)
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Yeah, I'd like to check Rawr out, but Mono doesn't work on Snow Leopard yet.
- Victor Ganata
Hmm I DID just install VMWare fusion and windows 7 today I'll have to give rawr a look.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
@Gunny it's not the most intuitive app, but it works. basically you want to make sure to put at least a gem and item enhancement in any place you can do so (don't tell rawr you want to enchant your rings if you're not an enchanter, for example), set filters to only instances/crafting/tokens you can get without much effort (perhaps don't include triumph gear if you don't do raids...
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- mjc
Can't get it to run in VM Ware
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Topless Robot - All Hail the Pandaren Brewmaster - http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009...
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"Holy shit. World of Warcraft players, why the fuck didn't you tell me there were beer-making pandas in your MMORPG? Why did I have to find out from this admittedly awesome toy (which I assume like the other WoW figures is made by DC Direct)? Dude, I would gladly pay $15 per month to make a virtual panda get drunk, and I'll likewise pay $50 for this figure and his massive cask of... I don't know, bamboo vodka, or whatever the hell Pandaran Brewmasters make, and order him here. You've let me down, people. I don't know how I can trust again. (Via ToyNewsI)"
- CW™
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Love it when I make it to Dalaran just in time for it to crash! Yay poor server performance!
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we had a crash during anub'arak in togc25 the other day. fail
- mjc
A World of Warcraft player from Taiwan becomes the first to snag every single achievement in the game. http://pc.gamespy.com/pc... Just in time for 3.3, I guess :D
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HOLY.FUCKING.CRAP. That's insane.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
from IM
Umm internet addiction at its best!
- CW™
I wonder how soon it'll be before he beats Arthas.
- Victor Ganata
Good heavens....
- Miriella
His next goal is to finally touch a boobie for the first time.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
*cackles at Amanda* I love you.
- Laura H.
*giggle @ tinypants*
- Miriella
I think the comments on the article are the real winners in all of this. And I'm betting *none* of them have ever touched a boobie either. We should make that a requirement for joining DYSP. (Avynn being the obvious exception being, y'know, a minor and all)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
from FreshFeed
Are we going to have to present photographic evidence?!?!
- Victor Ganata
Are you saying you have some to present? Cuz that's HAWT.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
from FreshFeed
Women, touching your own don't count.
- CW™
Mission already accomplished.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
from FreshFeed
Achievement unlocked? Did you get a badge for that?
- CW™
LOL, no I don't. At least, not that I'm aware of, and certainly not in my possession. :D
- Victor Ganata
@CW: no badge, but it did net me a phone number. @Victor: I have a sneaking suspicion you were a wild child in your younger days and won't admit it... :P
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
@Amanda: Heh, I won't deny it. I've certainly had my wild moments.
- Victor Ganata
And that's why you da man, Vic. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I grab other women's boobies all the time! (Usually they are my friends', and occasionally, I might have been drinking, but not always...) I would totally fit in the guild! :D
- Miriella
And this is why I love Miriella. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
*heads into Lindsay's office to grab boobs*
- Internet's Tad
I love this thread! :D
- holly
And Tad actually DID come in the office and grab me... with only the explanation that he was "required" to...
- Lindsay
Any excuse...
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
Do ANYBODY NO a good pvp DK spec that will be successful despite my less than stellar gear?
Have you tried the builds on wowwiki (http://www.wowwiki.com/Death_k...)? Can I armory you? What gear do you currently have?
- Arlan Koizumi
And here's a link to wowpopular DK PvP Builds: http://www.wowpopular.com/Death+K... Take with a grain of salt though. Sometimes I've seen top rated specs with weird talent distributions. That, or I'm too nub to see the light.
- Arlan Koizumi
I'd love to do some Heroics tonight. I can even stay up late. What can we do?
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bitch at me to finish leveling and transfer
- mjc
I'm down, haven't played much this week and it was dead on Sunday. I'll for whatever the daily is plus anything else. I need stinkin badges!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
from IM
I have an appointment at 5pm server time so won't be available until probably 6:30 server time. I'm happy to do anything. I can play any role, tank, healer, or dps
- Kamala Whitaker
I have been playing AV on my huntard trying to level her to Northrend. About half way to 68 now. I'm ready to rock some badges though.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
AV levelling is kinda silly unless you are around the level of the mobs (ie 61 or 71), the XP is low... you'd spend a lot less time if you just gun it to 80 with quests and then pvp after the fact
- mjc
getting XP for Caps killing Galv etc. It's fun and I am getting honor points for gear. You play your game I'll play mine mmmkay? :p Besides I RACED to 80 on my DK.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
ok, so I might rephrase and say "AV levelling for the sake of levelling", you have a good point :P
- mjc
I should be on around 8pm server, as I'm trying to finish up two research papers for finals. I can run y'all through any heroic you want, with the except of Oc. I'd rather take two fists up the ass with no lube than go to that pit of hell ever again.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I bet you it's the H daily, too :D
- Victor Ganata
If it is, I'm gonna go on a murderous rampage in WG...in BM spec no less
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
from FreshFeed
I'm hoping that I can get the hell out of here soon and log in by 8pm server time. Anyone know what the H daily is?
- Victor Ganata
Halls of Stone today
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
LOL. Awesome. Tribunal, here we come.
- Victor Ganata
I'm all about that. I can get us a druid to run as well, in any form though I highly recommend using him as a healer.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Can't wait :)
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
SWEET. I just set it up. He'll heal for us. He has a run at 10pm so I figure we should start by 8:30 at the latest. So we have me (DPS), him (heals), Vic (tank), Gunny (DPS)...just need one more Deeps and we're gravy. :D By god, I'm gonna get y'all through the Tribunal if it's the last thing I do.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
OR...if Haggis is able to join us, we can have the druid DPS instead. He's viable in any form. Haggis, you feel comfy healing Tribunal? My main goal is to just get y'all through it so you can get familiar with the fight from a proper standpoint so that you can comfortably run it as a part of your daily badge runs.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
The Hit Table (From Elitist Jerks: http://elitistjerks.com/f76...)
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It's often assumed by casual observers that the different kinds of avoidance are checked in sequence, e.g. first the server checks to see if the mob misses you; if it doesn't miss then the server checks to see if you parry; if you don't parry then the server checks for a dodge, etc. This makes intuitive sense, but it's not the way things actually work.
- Mark Trapp
What actually happens is the server makes a single "roll of the dice" to determine what happens on an attack, and all your avoidance chances, as well as your chance to be crit, are applied at the same time to that one roll. So for example, if a tank is naked and using a trash can lid as a shield, and has a 5% chance to be missed, 5% chance to dodge, 5% chance to parry and 5% chance to block, the server constructs a hit table that looks like this:
- Mark Trapp
01 - 05: miss (5%) 06 - 10: parry (5%) 11 - 15: dodge (5%) 16 - 20: block (5%) 21 - 95: hit (75%) 96 -100: crit (5%) ... and then a single random number between 1 and 100 determines the outcome.
- Mark Trapp
If a tank has a 10% chance to be missed, a 10% chance to dodge, 10% chance to parry, 10% chance to block, and has enough defense to be immune to critical hits, the table looks like this: 01 - 10: miss (10%) 11 - 20: parry (10%) 21 - 30: dodge (10%) 31 - 40: block (10%) 41 -100: hit (60%)
- Mark Trapp
If the tank has Holy Shield active, the chance of a block goes up to 40% and the chance of a regular hit goes down to 30. If the tank has Holy Shield active and Redoubt procs, the chance of a block is 70%, and it is impossible for an attack to hit without being blocked. The important thing to be aware of here is that the more of each kind of avoidance you have, the more valuable the...
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- Mark Trapp
Doing damage to something is the reverse of this: hit decreases the chance to miss, and expertise decreases the chance to be parried or dodged. So the more expertise and hit you have, the less effective an opponent's defense stats are.
- Mark Trapp
Oh, and spells cannot be mitigated by dodge, parry, or block, so expertise doesn't do anything for spell casters. Dealing with spell casters is the domain of three other stats: resilience, which decreases the chance to be crit and decreases the amount of damage a successful crit does (this only affects player spells, not mob spells, so it's a pvp only stat), spell resistance, which...
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- Mark Trapp
What a helpful thread! And yeah, spell casters just ought to reach for the hit minimum, so your spells won't have a chance to miss.
- Miriella
useful to note that people very often think that block is avoidance... it isn't. it's mitigation
- mjc
@Miriella, he's talking about avoiding or mitigating spells taken (as in tanking)
- mjc
This explanation is definitely helpful. I've always wondered why some people consider expertise a tanking stat, but I guess it can really screw up your threat generation if you get dodged or parried. From what I understand, it seems like boss parry-haste isn't as much of a consideration anymore, though.
- Victor Ganata
Fwd: I has a mount - http://naurunappula.com/z... (via http://friendfeed.com/funny-p...)
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awesomesauce
- mjc
Your World of Warcraft toon on a poster - Boing Boing - http://www.boingboing.net/2009...
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"Ted sez, "This website allows you to create posters of WoW characters. The company allows you to use a variety of backgrounds and designs, as well as inserting a character (in their currently loaded) armor into the poster, with pets and all (this is a big deal to hunters). Paper is high quality stuff.""
- CW™
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SWANK. There was a guy that used to do really nice artwork of your toons based on screen caps he would take in-game. Just total Photoshop genius. I lost his website link and was never able to order up my own sitting. :( This may just be the perfect alternate. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Avynn was raving about this the other day... Maybe Santa will bring one his way.
- Lindsay
heh
- mjc
Post the most interesting (funny or cool) guild names you've seen in this thread.
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and Two Stealthed Rogues <-- starting with Tad's favorite
- Lindsay
Blue Murloc Cult :)
- holly
My two faves are still Grand Theft Kodo and Gnome Depot. Both on Silvermoon. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
My old guild on Eitrigg was Less Than Three <3 :D
- Jonas, Leper of FF
Two Gnomes One Cup
- Christian (Simply X)
My favorite is actually <and two stealthed rogues> Great guild name on a PvP server!
- Internet's Tad
Gnomercy, Gnomeland Security, Counter Tauren Unit. I don't know any Horde ones that would qualify.
- Arlan Koizumi
A couple of Horde ones that I've seen that made me LOL: BloodBath and Beyond, Eat Crit and Die
- Victor Ganata
Horrible but funny: Fat Kids R Slow In RL
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
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I've always liked Grand Theft Kodo also. :D
- Laura H.
Your Mother's a Horde
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Unhand My Sasquatch
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
BRB My Goat is on Fire
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
My faves are <My Pretty Pwnies> and <OMG Lazerz Pew Pew>
- Internet's Tad
Kiss My Crits. I've run with a couple of them before. Excellent sense of humor as you'd expect.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
3.3.0 looms nearer!
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*boner*
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
tinypants is now bigpants.
- mjc
There is actually a Biggpants in my old guild, believe it or not. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Wahooo! IC here we come! I can't wait to tank my way through the new content!!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
tinypants: "Biggpants" would have been a great name for me when I was an officer of a guild called "10 inches unbuffed"
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Heh, we have (or had?) a guild on Silvermoon called Eight Inches Unbuffed. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
not anymore unfortunately, according to armory. :( make one? :D
- mjc
Nope. I've got enough guilds on Silvermoon that I belong to. LOL
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
True story.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
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If You Gain Unauthorized Access To A Character In A Virtual World, Is It Theft? | Techdirt - http://techdirt.com/article...
"Well, here we go again. For years we've questioned the wisdom of using real world laws to deal with issues within virtual worlds. You begin to open up quite the Pandora's Box of problems. If it's okay to charge someone for theft of virtual goods in a virtual world, what do you do if "theft" is a part of the game? And then does killing another character in a virtual world become "murder"? These issues are coming up again as Slashdot points out that a guy in the UK has been arrested for "robbery" of a player in the online world RuneScape. In this case, the arrested guy used a phishing scheme to get access to the username and password, making it similar to a story from two years ago involving "stolen goods" in Habbo Hotel that involved a similar "hacking" of an account. But, again, it seems questionable to call this a robbery. Why not just charge the guy with violation of whatever laws there are against phishing or fraud, rather than robbery. These sorts of "robberies" can and probably...
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- CW™
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I went on a PUG Deadmines run on one of my alts yesterday that was so full of win, I have to share.
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So my alt (which I keep forgetting to get an invite for) is currently a level 14 human warrior. I'm wandering around Westfall and a level 23 mage asks me if I want to do DM, and I say, sure. Little did I realize that, despite being the lowest level toon in the group, and despite there being a higher level paladin, they expected me to tank.
- Victor Ganata
Which I didn't really end up doing, because we had a crazed nelf hunter in our party who refused to stop and let the priest and mage go on mana breaks, who refused to wait for people to come back from their corpse runs, and who would get pissed when he would die after running way too far ahead of the main party.
- Victor Ganata
The paladin in our group also kept demanding we change looting options to free-for-all. I guess so that he wouldn't have to work too hard to ninja loot. Not that I really care if I get phat loot from DM, but eventually the crazed nelf hunter snapped at him, and the paladin left with a "fuck you." We found another paladin. Who was still higher level than me. And who also didn't want to tank.
- Victor Ganata
Somehow, despite various party members dying several times even before we got to the instance portal, we eventually make it to Sneed and his Shredder and predictably, we wipe. We go on our corpse run. Crazed nelf hunter is the first to get back. Before anyone else gets back, he engages the shredder once again, and then goes on an all caps tirade about how no one was helping him. Despite the fact we kept telling him to wait. The new paladin, who obviously recognizes the futility of the situation, leaves.
- Victor Ganata
Time wasted at this point: 1-1/2 hours. Gear: all red. I now remember quite keenly why I don't do non-DYSP instance runs.
- Victor Ganata
*comforts* || See, this is why I'm so leery of doing pugs. However my own experience when I started playing WoW wasn't so bad. By the time I got to my mid-40s I had made enough friends to not worry about crappy pugs and with my first main being a hunter, I didn't mind soloing and not doing a lot of group content (as an ex-FFXI player, I was in heaven soloing). The times I did do pugs...
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- Arlan Koizumi
Sounds like a pretty entertaining 1.5 hours! Hehehe.
- Lindsay
Holy. Wow.
- Miriella
There probably should be a distinction between pugs for low level instances like Deadmines where everyone is either a) extremely inexperienced or b) extremely overconfident of their ability because they're running an alt and pugs at the level cap. There's always the hilarious or annoying exception every once in a while, but I don't run into groups like the horror show you described here too often.
- Mark Trapp
A hunter randomly sent me a tell out of the clear blue late Saturday night - they were looking for a healer for regular ToC. Just by the way he sent me the tell (it was very polite, very nice, and very noobish), I knew it was going to be a disaster, but I wanted to see how bad it was going to be. I join the group, and I ask who is tanking, and it's the level 79, who currently has 16k...
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- Miriella
Oh man, I think if I'd seen a 16k hp tank, there would have been a "whoops! I've DC'ed and can't get back on for the next two hours!" accident in my immediate future. Your ToC run is right up there with my 2-hour 17-wipe H UP run from a couple weeks ago. I only stuck around because they were very nice and I wanted to be helpful in gearing up noobish end-gamers. But really, I kept...
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- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Oh yeah! I KNEW it was going to be bad, but they are so rare for me that I just had to do it. (Besides, it makes for a good story) BM spec - we had an ex-guildie hunter pet that used to tank Hakkar - your pet totally would have done a better job tanking UP, lol! I just start wanding whenever I pull aggro, Ms. Pants (I'm learning!). And definitely, there was that part of me that wanted...
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- Miriella
Oh that's so sweet of them. :D Yeah, with my group, when I offered to be the official DE of the group, they got all wide-eyed and were like "Why would you DE anything? We need gear upgrades!" and then someone inspected me and they got wide-eyed all over again. LOL What's funny is that I actually tanked alongside my pet...which was a cat. :) My guild teases me about being a Hunter Tank...
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- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
screw that, I would have joined and said "listen, he doesn't have the gear to tank this and I don't need a repair bill to prove that" and bail. :P but I understand the temptation....
- mjc
Gobble, gobble!
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How'd they do that??
- Lindsay
I can make critter bites now! Woot!
- Lindsay
I have critter bites coming out my ass. They were good for a quest and achievement, but now I'm stuck with ten stacks. About ready to throw them in the GB.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I like Critter Bites. :D
- Laura H.
LOL Keep an eye on the guild bank then. :) I'll try to remember to send them over from my hunter this week.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Oooohh... I'll take some more if you don't want em!! Trying to build up a few stacks. I think it's going to be one of my favorite things in the game getting stuff to follow me around.
- Lindsay
OK, I have like 6 or 7 stacks that I sent over to my shammy before I went to bed last night. I will make a note to myself to get onto my shammy tonight and hand 'em out to y'all, or at least send them to you via mail. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Slashdot Games Story | Online "Guilds" Mirror Real Life Gangs - http://games.slashdot.org/story...
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""In June 2009, Dr Neil Johnson published a paper titled "Human group formation in online guilds and offline gangs driven by a common team dynamic" in Physical Review E that found the way in which WoW "guilds" form can be described by a mathematical model that can also be applied to an unrelated group of people, namely street gangs in Los Angeles. Since "Any group that satisfies these fairly autonomous, competitive criteria would also (fit the model)," said Dr Johnson, the findings are of interest to those combating international as well as local terrorist cells.""
- CW™
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So when do I get my leather jacket with DYSP labeled in old english lettering on the back?
- CW™
Wha...
- Miriella
The devs should implement the C-walk as a night-elf emote.
- Victor Ganata
*snap...snap...snap...snap* When you're a Nelf, you're a Nelf all the way, from your first wispy rez to your last raid foray...
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
...heh
- mjc
I'm buying one of these for each of my DYSP guildies for Christmas...
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LOL and *barf*
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
yum?
- mjc
LOL, I totally thought this was a Blizzard product, given their apparent in-game obsession with outhouses and feces.
- Victor Ganata
Vic wins. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Dammit - I just cannot do the stupid Turkenator thing. Sigh. Damn slow spawning turkeys!!
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Got up early Saturday morning and it was SUPER easy! w00t! Love my dumb stupid turkey pet.
- Internet's Tad
Let's do this. LEEEROOOYY JENNKINNNNSSS!!!
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Did he just run in?
- mjc
I can't cast with this shi-
- Arlan Koizumi
Tonight when I was rogue hunting for the Pilgrim title, I saw a level 9 gnome rogue named Shiv. How'd he luck into such an awesome name? :)
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