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DYSP: The FF MMO Group

For FriendFeed MMO players. WoW, DCUO, LOTRO, SWKOTORO, etc.
Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
.... WoW Withdrawal hits the hardest when I just want to run around for hours hitting everything with a stick
That's what keeps me subbed. And beta invites too. :) I think you may need to return for WoD if possible. So far it's enjoyable though I'm still getting used to some of my hunter class changes (will port in a few more Alts this week). - Hookuh Tinypants from FreshFeed
Hookuh Tinypants
Well I guess we know what I'm doing this weekend...
I got an invite too. 50/50 on being interested and apprehensive. - Arlan K.
100% ready to do something besides level my alts through MoP, that's where I'm at. - Hookuh Tinypants
Arlan K.
Just read the latest alpha patch notes. ( I'm not going to read anymore patch notes until WoD launch. They're just pissing me off and making the xpac look like crap.
What in particular is upsetting you? - Chris Topher
I don't really play warriors that much, but… it seems like they're ripping out a lot of their abilities? - Victor Ganata
It seems as if the majority of the pruning involves getting rid of passives that alter rotational abilities and just rolling what the passives do into the rotational abilities. - Chris Topher
They're definitely merging the passives into active abilities, but it also looks like they're pruning active abilities. - Victor Ganata
Warrior changes from the link. PvP oriented: Deep Wounds prot only baked into TC forcing Arms/Fury to grab Bloodbath for DoT. Blizz's backpedalling on stance dancing. General: Removal of Slam. One of the main reasons I love Warrior is that there were more things I could do on them than other classes. It's looking a little concerning with MS and CSmash costing rage. Rage gen from... more... - Arlan K.
And actually, Hunters had it easier because they had the ability to gain focus through an ability, whereas the only things Warriors can do is either highly buff haste or crit or both. - Arlan K.
Overall many of the changes in WoD seem interesting and doable. My classes have been fucked with enough over the previous four xpacs. I got over my outrage with Cata. - Hookuh Tinypants from FreshFeed
There were only two big instances that bugged me in the past. The worst was changes in TBC. I can't quite remember what they were, but I was pretty annoyed at the time. The second was when they switched Arms and Fury in playstyle. I mained Fury since Vanilla, but couldn't play it when they switched the playstyle to RNG in Cata. But at least there was Arms. I guess they want everyone to get outraged at some point so here we are. - Arlan K.
Don't forget, this is Alpha we are talking about. I remember with every expansion so far that there were numerous spell changes/additions and talent additions/changes that were completely different in live than they were in testing. - Chris Topher
Yes, that's why I said I won't read any more patch notes until launch. Still, them even exploring reversing the QoL changes they made to stances is disconcerting at the very least and downright aggravating otherwise. Should those changes go live, I get to waste my first several hours of WoD creating the macros I had throughout the years. - Arlan K.
Victor Ganata
New female night elf model pics have been released. There is now a raging argument about whether or not night elves are supposed to have fangs :D
Confirmed: new night elf models will have fangs :) - Victor Ganata
I really hate that they have fangs. I don't recall reference to them in anything I've read. But then again, the wealth of literature is so large, I am sure it's a detail I would have missed. (but seriously, fangs? It's bad enough that they have teeth now, which make them look like babyeaters) - Hookuh Tinypants
I think the rationale is the troll ancestry. But even before Blizz confirmed the lineage, I did get the sense from the WC3 manual that nelfs are supposed to be more savage and feral than helfs/belfs. I've always suspected that Metzen was trying to do for D&D drow what he did for Tolkienian orcs. - Victor Ganata
Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
I still hate, Hate, HATE this guy.
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Victor Ganata
feinting couch: n., furniture designed for hunters to be placed upon while they're feigning death.
Arlan K.
I was bored so I pre-ordered WoD and level boosted my rogue to 90 and finally, FINALLY, completed one of the alchemy specialization quests (transmute). Tossed leather tokens at the rogue and got two daggers from the TI vendor.
Now I'm planning on mass running AV this weekend for transmog gear. Maybe even honor gear too since they're 522's. - Arlan K.
I'm jealous! - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
Victor Ganata
Massive changes to PvP in WoD
Buffing PvP gear makes a hell of a lot more sense than nerfing PvE gear. - Victor Ganata
I'm wondering how HP and mana would work. With the flipping of the ilvl, will you gain the increased hp/mana or will your reserve increase but not fill up? If you're questing but flagged (say like after getting out of a BG) will your gear be at the PvP-ilvl? Gotta see the change in action, but it just seems like there's a flaw. - Arlan K.
Yeah, guess we gotta wait for the beta at least, but I imagine your max HP/mana/other resources will increase, and your current HP/mana/other resources will stay the same percentage. In world PvP, I could still see them being able to automatically increase it as soon as you're in combat with another player. - Victor Ganata
I guess I'm pessimistic about the auto-ilvl changes. It sounds neat but I keep thinking there's going to be a way the ganker/attacker can exploit the mechanic. I would rather they leave PvP Power and Resilience (and actually add them to all gear) and rework the PvP On/Off mechanic for PvE focused realms. You know, force people to switch on PvP status instead of just blueflagging. and... more... - Arlan K.
Related: The only thing I really like about flying mounts is that I can avoid any potential PvP action in the world after getting out of a BG. Which probably means that if I'm playing WoD and get to level cap, I'll probably either hangout in my garrison or in a Flying-capable area when/if I'm doing random BGs. - Arlan K.
Victor Ganata
It's kind of crazy how much GRRM seems to have influenced cRPGs/MMORPGs. Lots of ASoIaF references in both Dragon Age and in WoW.
Probably why I don't like either :D - Mo Kargas
Although, to be honest, I never played much of Dragon Age, but the whole concept of the Grey Wardens fighting darkspawn during a Blight have a lot of overlap with the Night's Watch fighting Others during Winter. - Victor Ganata
And while the ASoIaF references are a very minor part of WoW, I always find myself leveling through Darkshire with their own Night Watch fighting against a seemingly random pocket of undead. I was kind of sad when they removed the gnome Tyrion from Stormwind Keep. And the Shado Pan on the Wall in Pandaria even have lines taken from ASoIaF's Night's Watch: "We are the sword in the shadows" and "We are the watchers on the wall" - Victor Ganata
And while Bastion Keep in Diablo 3 isn't necessarily a deliberate allusion to ASoIaF, that's pretty much what I imagine fighting Others during Winter will be like. - Victor Ganata
I forgot the Kingslayer title from Wrath. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Yeah, when Dragon Age first came out, I couldn't help but associate the Grey Wardens with the Night Watch too. And the whole dark fantasy theme. Never really thought about it for Wrath, though. Probably because that expansion was all Argent Tournament for me. - Arlan K.
I didn't even really make any sort of Grey Wardens connection; the whole concept of 'military force on the fringe built from the fringes of society' is old enough that they both felt like they were influenced from similar sources. It makes sense looking at it now, though at least with the NW, you don't have a sincerely large likelihood of dying before you even really get to do any sort of training. - Jennifer Dittrich
I wonder what the ur-Night's Watch is? Because of Westeros' basis in Great Britain, it's tempting for me to imagine the Roman legionaires guarding Hadrian's Wall as the primary antecedent, but they weren't really guarding against much (to read some sources, building the Wall was more an exercise of power and an act of security theater). But I guess the secret society that prevents unspeakable evil from entering into the world is a really old trope. - Victor Ganata
Besides the Kingslayer title, I think this NPC named Khaliisi might be another reference in Wrath — Having her as a hunter kind of makes sense. But she should have a pet bear named Jorah (since, like Daenerys Targaryen is quickly learning, dragons are untameable.) :D - Victor Ganata
I think Tyrion was from Vanilla? - Victor Ganata
It occurs to me that the Rangers of the North from LotR have a lot in common with the Night's Watch. Everyone thinks they're just outlaws, ruffians, and vagrants, but they're actually keeping orcs and undead horrors from Angmar at bay :D - Victor Ganata
Victor Ganata
More often than not, whenever I name a new character in an MMO or other cRPG/cRPG-like game, I end up naming them in Quenya. I just figured out that Shadowsong (as in Maiev Shadowsong) translates to Lomelinde, which is another name for Tinúviel, so now I have a headcanon where Lúthien Tinúviel is a warden/demon hunter.
Lúthien Tinúviel did defeat Sauron in hand-to-hand combat (with the help of Huan the Hound) and she skinned a vampire(!) so it kind of fits. - Victor Ganata
Victor Ganata
On a lighter note, some WoW players on Twitter are now discussing the existence of mogu porn #Rule34
Victor Ganata
Azeroth Choppers is a show?!? What the...?
It's amusing for no other reason than to see Chris Metzen having to shill for the Alliance (though lately he has been more and more about the Alliance - wonder if he finally went back and read his own damn lore and realized that the orcs were kind of to blame for a lot of shit). - Hookuh Tinypants
Victor Ganata
D'oh, forgot to log in to check mail >.< I didn't need that gold anyway.
Victor Ganata
They added new sections to the Patch 6.0 alpha notes
Dang, it looks like they nerfed DKs hard for PvP. Not only is AotD gone, but AMZ's damage reduction is cut in half. - Victor Ganata
I can already taste the tears of the min/maxers now that snapshotting stats for DoTs is totally dead. - Victor Ganata
Snapshotting DoTs is way too min/maxy imo. It complicates things way too much. - Chris Topher
Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
Oh man I can't believe I didn't have an authenticator on the account, I own 3! Luckily things worked out, but damn whoever got into my account probably had wet dream when the added my gold up. I usually have more than most medium sized guilds.
Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
My account has been hacked and they change 4 of my characters realms I don't know how to fix this.
Do you have your account back yet? If you do, you can petition to have your characters restored to their correct realms. If you don't have your account back yet, first step is to contact Blizzard and get that shit secured and returned to you ASAP. - Hookuh Tinypants
Highly recommend downloading the mobile authenticator and attaching it to your account. - Hookuh Tinypants
Already done as well as changing password - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce from Android
Part of my problem is I do not have access to apc with internet right now. Part of the reason my account was inactive... - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce from Android
They used PayPal..... - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce from Android
They used your PayPal account? Meaning, they hacked your PayPal account as well? Or were they able to attach their PayPal account to your Blizzard account? - Hookuh Tinypants
It's total bullshit that they got rid of the phone support, it was the most responsive. I hope you can get something out of them quickly. - Heather
It was already attached and because I forgot to keep blizzard in my rotation they had the same password. I think everything is ok. Authenticator attached. Passwords changed account rolled back and charges canceled. - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce from Android
Victor Ganata
I realize Avenger's Shield is a straight-up rip of Captain America's signature move, so Captain America is kind of the ur-prot pally, but I also can't help wonder if Thor isn't the prototype ret pally, what with all the hammers and all :D
The way your mind works, man. :) Always connecting dots and whatnot. :D - Hookuh Tinypants
Didja play the Crusader in D3 yet, bro? Thor and Capt. America COMBINED INTO ONE! - Arlan K.
I haven't even gotten past the first act with my Crusader yet. I've been too enamored with the Wizard and my Avatar: The Last Airbender headcanon. :D And trying to get moar legendaries for my WD. - Victor Ganata
Victor Ganata
At least Volley lives on in Demon Hunters in Diablo 3. :D
Arlan K.
After reading down into the Class changes, WTF!? The hell they doing to Hunters? No Hunter's Mark or Distracting Shot? Removing Kill Shot from Survival is like removing Execute for Arms Warriors. *checks to see they didn't do that*
No glowy hands for (Ret) Paladins or wings for Prot. Holy shit, I think this is the first time I'm disgusted with what Blizz is looking to do. I hated the change to Fury making it RNG-y, but just rolled with it (and went Arms). If these changes last to WoD, I don't think even Garrisons is going to get me to resub. - Arlan K.
The Ret changes don't seem too bad. I'm going to miss running into Vann's or Wyrmbane's room and blinding the whole Horde raid before getting focus-fired to death, but I never liked GoAK (I think it looks ugly :D) and Inquisition made ret feel like playing a rogue. - Victor Ganata
Majority of the Warrior changes makes sense. They fucked up Berserker Stance a long time ago and while I'm sad they're removing it, it's better than having it there reminding me of the good old times back in Vanilla. No Thunder Clap for Fury is a bit sad, but whatever. - Arlan K.
I guess Marks just has to use Aiming Shot instead or Arcane Shot to dump focus? I guess that's one way to change up the rotation. Removing Lock and Load for SV seems kind of rough, though. - Victor Ganata
Admittedly the only reason I like Inquisition is the glowy hands. They removed it from Enrage for Warriors and it was nice seeing something like that on at least one of my melee characters. But no wings for Prot, man. NO WINGS FOR PROT. - Arlan K.
No ghoul and no Army of the Dead for my frost DK does kind of make me sad, though. I always thought it was hilarious when Hordies would get surprised mobbed by six superbuffed ghouls after a shammy popped hero. - Victor Ganata
I like GoAK and it was fun busting it out with the DPS CD, but don't really care that they're making it prot only. You know the GoAK flies with you? I think Mac would agree with you about Inquisition. Aside from Warrior, Paladin and Hunter, the only other class I'm familiar with is Shaman and those changes don't seem so bad. - Arlan K.
No instant cast heals for healers does make me nervous about trying to play with my healers. Guess I'll just respec them as DPS for now :D - Victor Ganata
Since they built a DPS quasi-spec for mistweavers (and a tank quasi-spec for demo locks), I really don't understand why they can't make shockadins a real thing. :D - Victor Ganata
If Black Arrow is still dispellable in PvP that's going to really hurt Surv. Blizz moved LnL to Black Arrow. In PvE it's no big deal, but in PvP... well. - Arlan K.
RE: Shockadins. Probably still traumatized from Vanilla. :P - Arlan K.
I suppose Glyph of Harsh Words is to shockadins as Glyph of Demon Hunting is to demo lock tanks but killing things as holy is still ridiculously painfully slow :D - Victor Ganata
Victor Ganata
WoD alpha begins. — I guess we really are gonna have to wait until December, huh?
WoD Alpha patch notes — some of these changes are pretty wild. - Victor Ganata
You mean sexy. :D - Hookuh Tinypants
Admittedly there are some changes they're making that I think is just too much easymode, but that's just me clinging to notions gained through decades of RPG play. In general I can appreciate how having to balance hit can be annoying for people who just want to be able to slap on gear and kill shit. - Hookuh Tinypants
I do wonder how the healing changes will affect raiding. There are a lot of healers out there who clearly operate on smart heals, and forcing healers to go back and actually BE healers is going to drop a lot of folks out of the running as useful healers until they learn to actually play their class. - Hookuh Tinypants
The removal of all instant cast heals is probably going to be traumatic. Although I guess they're also going to make it so bosses can't just two-shot tanks in 3 seconds, so maybe it's only going to affect PvP, and with the mass nerfing of silences and interrupts, even that might not be as bad as it sounds. - Victor Ganata
Removing massive unavoidable damage spikes is probably going to make smart healing less necessary, too. - Victor Ganata
They'd have a lot of bosses to revamp in that case. All the way back to vanilla. I don't think removing smart heals is a bad thing. They haven't been around all that long, but it's been clear the impact they've had on growing quality healers. I would be quite pleased to go back to having good trained healers that I can trust to keep my tanks up. - Hookuh Tinypants
It'll also raise the bar a bit for tanks too. If they don't already, they'll have to learn to watch their HP and know when to use high mitigation skills more proactively to be more in sync with their healer(s). - Arlan K.
My sub runs out next month and I don't think I'll resub until the pre-patch content comes in. I enjoyed my time on the Timeless Isle, but I don't want to do that for the next potentially 8 months. Not interested in PvP right now either. Thankfully, Reaper of Souls and Loot 2.0 has made Diablo 3 pretty fun. That and I have my New Game+ to do on Bravely Default. - Arlan K.
Yup, that's another thing that's been a perverse incentive of smart healing - tanks (and party members in general) have been allowed to get lazy with watching their own HP and being careful. Now granted, I appreciate smart healing in LFG and LFR because, y'know...LFG and LFR. No control over morons. But in non-LFG/LFR parties, it's nice to have a healer that can think on their feet, and tanks and DPS who pay attention to standing in shit or dmg mitigation. - Hookuh Tinypants
The removal of vengeance and the addition of resolve does seem to suggest that tanks are going to need to rely more on active mitigation and self-heals than on healers saving their asses. - Victor Ganata
It sounds like they might revamp SoO bosses in the pre-patch, but I think everything else is going to remain the same. I guess even with the stat squish, they're expecting people are still going to massively outgear older MoP content. Stuff that's even older might be more difficult to run at level but unless they nerf looms or the OP MoP and Cata BoE low level gear, it probably won't be noticeable. - Victor Ganata
I figured the stat squish wouldn't do anything to change how your recent gear and level will make you OP in the older raids. Everything is being squished so it'll just be shifting everything down. - Arlan K.
Victor Ganata
I can't believe how long it took to kill 50 hordies in Vann's room and how long it took to win AV 100 times.
Has it gotten significantly harder since the change in AV? I thought all they did was modify the terrain around FW entrance by FWGY? Oh and lulz to proof that Blizz favors Horde since they made that change and no other changes to the smaller BGs to help Ally. /trollface - Arlan K.
Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not sure if the Loyal Defender achieve is cumulative, or if I literally got 50 HKs in Vann's room in one fight. They just kept running in one by one for a handful of defenders and Vann to massacre :D - Victor Ganata
Given how many times we've run AV, I'm surprised it took this many years to win 100 matches, though :D - Victor Ganata
Alliance still seems to dominate AV, although I did lose a couple of times this CTA because people kept letting the Horde take IBT and TP back. - Victor Ganata
Oh! Achieves. I get it now. Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't get 100 earlier. - Arlan K.
Victor Ganata
I was flagged on Timeless Isle from doing AV and some Hordie pally started dropping hammers on my head. I thought it was an accident, and I was trying to be nice and I tried to run away, but he stunned and dismounted me, so I had to open up a can of whoopass and pound him repeatedly in the face with my own hammers. Silly Hordie.
Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
I really want to pre-order WoD but... money, :( I MISS HURLING GNOMES
Victor Ganata
We actually won this AV by defending noob hill :D Won by reinforcements 303-0.
Victor Ganata
LOL. Guild on Silvermoon-Mok'Nathal: <IT HURTS WHEN I PVP>
Victor Ganata
The Alliance's total inability to adapt to the Horde's new strategy in IoC is quite astounding.
New strategy? - Chris Topher
Right now, the Horde is rushing hangar, sending a big enough force to docks to delay the Alliance from capping it, and sending a token force to WS. Then Horde rezzers stay on D and wipeout anyone using catas to jump the gate and/or they take WS so we can't run bombs. This works really well because the standard Alliance strategy is to rush docks and WS. The glaives blow up even before we... more... - Victor Ganata from iPhone
And if you suggest going to hangar to delay the Horde from capping it, no one ever goes and they'll just verbally abuse you :D - Victor Ganata from iPhone
That's not really new, though. It's usually what happens toward the end of the expansion because glaive HP don't scale as well as gear. It'll take a long time before Alliance gets their head out of their butts and start going Docks/Hangar or WS/Hangar. Then, expansion hits and glaive HP gets buffed and with the entry ilvl glaives become relevant again and then it'll take a long time before Alliance starts going back to Docks. - Arlan K.
I miss the group suicide runs to hangar :D - Victor Ganata
It's crazy how a few seconds of delay at hangar or docks is what determines who wins. - Victor Ganata
Yeah, I kinda miss those days. - Arlan K.
Victor Ganata
To LFR or not to LFR. That is the question.
Victor Ganata
Warlords of Draenor pre-purchase (plus boost to 90) available now -
December 20th, 2014?! Sheesh. - Victor Ganata
I'd be interested to see how they manage to limp MoP along until then. I'm going to assume that is an incredibly soft date at this point. They can't afford to hemorrhage players between now and then. - Hookuh Tinypants
Yeah, I think they'd try to release as soon as possible, but probably don't have enough done right now to give a better estimate. Would they have anybody available to release new content within the 8 months if they do take until December? - Arlan K.
Price increase of $10 to boot. But yeah, its a soft date, the goal is September I hear. - Chris Topher
I get the impression it's going to be out much earlier than that, but they're just putting a "safe" date by specifying December. - Stephen Mack
All the discussions they had at BC regarding WoD indicated a 3rd qtr release. Amused that they'd put such a ridiculous soft date on there. - Hookuh Tinypants from FreshFeed
don't like the price hike much... grr - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
Victor Ganata
LOL, apparently newly boosted 90s spawn on the Timeless Isle, and they're getting camped by people trying to farm Bloody Coins
ahaha Well, that's what they should expect for being on a PvP server. - Arlan K.
On the Timeless Isle, there's an option that lets you gank anybody, even players in your own faction :D - Victor Ganata
The other player still has to be flagged first before you can gank them on a PvE realm. - Hookuh Tinypants from FreshFeed
True, but sometimes you can count on the "if it's red (well, technically, if it's yellow), it's dead" mentality to get them to accidentally flag. Sadly, many a griefer has tricked me in this way :D Although it doesn't happen as much now that there aren't huge crowds for the world bosses. Basically, I should know better than to tab-target by now. - Victor Ganata
I remember once a griefer got me good. Did right in a quest NPC waiting for an accidental click. Imagine his surprise when I almost immediately had about 10 level 70s (whether when that was the cap? Or even worse... 60) pop in to help fight back. That was back in the hay day it the giant guild I was in. We had fun - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce from Android
This reminds me, I still haven't glyphed any of my pallies for bubblehearthing. - Victor Ganata
Victor Ganata
If I boost a Hordie to 90, I wonder if I'll get the "Double Agent" achieve?
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