yes, bad bad bad. this was a clear win for pretty much everyone and it still managed to get defeated. - Larry Greenfield
how did it lose? what's the assembly's deal? - ⓞnor
ny government is chronically dysfunctional. the assembly is essentially controlled by the speaker, Sheldon Silver, who represents the LES. probably what killed congestion pricing more than anything else was that he didn't want it to pass. his public comments had been lukewarm support. it's quite possible he didn't let it to pass because it was a way of him demonstrating his power. but the assembly members (democrats) also seemed anti-pricing because---and this is just a hypothesis---they're not too smart. - Larry Greenfield
Remind me why you get so excited about congestion pricing again? Among other things, how does this help carless Manhattanites like yourself? - j1m
Less pollution, less honking. Cars are a blight. - ƃuɐʞ
Of course, half of the cars driving in new york at any given moment are cabs. And it's already very expensive to bring a car in during a weekday. - j1m
benefits for the car-less: the revenue stream was dedicated to help mass transit. clearing up congestion allows for faster cab rides (even across the bridges needed to reach brooklyn) and should lower business costs for things like deliveries. - Larry Greenfield
So what do you figure the real cost is to the city (and other providers of resources that those cars use) of having a car driving around for an hour? Parked for an hour? In Manhattan for a whole day? - j1m
@j1m: It might be expensive in time and parking, but tolls are free if you enter via the Manhattan or Brooklyn bridges and exit through the George Washington Bridge. - Michelle Lee
