“We need a little more repsonsibility here. I've seen TWO pictures today on FriendFeed (from those who are not my friend) that are COMPLETELY inappropriate. I browse at times with my daughter, and check sometimes at work. A proactive "Hide" would not have helped in either unless I blocked all.”
Unfortunately, I'm not sure what the fix may be except for a possible "Flag as Inappropriate" and then further action could be taken? Time for moderators (slippery slope)? - Vince DeGeorge
yeah, i think i know what one of them was. i probably shouldn't have commented on it, since that made it hang around a little longer. - edythe
I know of one that was done by someone who isn't a constructive community member to begin with, so I'm not sure how much this warning will affect people like him. I am almost willing to suggest/support a reputation system if this is the sign of things to come. - Mark Trapp
Perhaps a NSFW flag or a reminder to put it in the Porn room. - Morton Fox
No, please no reputation or karma system, a filter thingy will do the trick - directeur
This was one of the reasons why I hid all flickr images for a while, but there are still some that got through as FF messages - Bwana McCall
NSFW flag would not have really help in these two cases. Apparently one was a "mistake" and the other was purposeful to get a certain "reaction" from people (which I consider failed). I simply don't want things to spiral out of control. As a smaller community, this wasn't an issue, but the bigger FF becomes the more "safeguards" are needed. I hate to block "Friend of a Friend" entries because I've discovered so friends many that way. - Vince DeGeorge
Inappropriate? Was it full on nudity? I'm not sure all of the users would be able to agree, unless we all agreed not to share nudity. - Todd Jordan
Also, you can hide a particular user. - Todd Jordan
Shey & Morton, in one case the photo was right there and it was too late for a warning. :| Also, i thought, at least for the bookmarklet, that even if you share something to a room it is still posted on the main feed. - edythe
+1 Vince DeGeorge: It's not about filtering people, it's about filtering things. - directeur
Perhaps a way to block only images from FOAFs? Or block images from all, unless marked as trusted by you? - Trent Olson
Todd, one was full on nudity, yes. I saw it because of edythe's comment (I don't blame her at all) - her reaction was mine as well "whoa!" I could have only hidden this person AFTER the fact, and I truly believe he just made a mistake. It was a Flickr posting that should have been private, but wasn't. - Vince DeGeorge
edythe: No, if you use the bookmarklet to share to a specific room, it goes only to that room. The reason why it seems otherwise is many folks share things twice so that one copy goes to their main feed. - Morton Fox
i believe him that it was a mistake. it brings up an interesting issue with regards to sharing everything... because we can't share *everything* - edythe
If something is shared to FriendFeed by mistake, why not delete it right away? Instead he commented on it that it was a mistake. Sorry, something doesn't add up - Shey
Accidents happen all the time I'm sure. That said, I'm guessing that some folks will be more likely to share controversial material than others. I don't take nude photos, so you won't see those on my stream, but one never knows what might spark a negative reaction with someone. - Todd Jordan
He commented on it 2X AND left it up. Some frickin' mistake... - Shey
part and parcel of the internet is realizing that stuff like this will ALWAYS slip in. But yeah, putting tools in place to ward it is a great idea. Especially if it's community policing. Remember, to some people a picture of an attractive young lady in a bathing suit is considered hard core unacceptable, and I wouldn't support a ban on that. - Tad - just Tad
true, shey. i wanted to say that to him but didn't want to comment again. have to go see if i can twitter it. he may not know you can delete it. - edythe
yup I refused to comment on it because then it would have spread. If we all just hide this kind of stuff, or delete it if it is a comment under one of our things then it would really clean up fast. - Robert Scoble
Robert: so if I hide something seen in my stream, it's not shared to my followers as a (friend of Todd) post? - Todd Jordan
Todd: right. Only stuff you like or comment on is passed along. - Robert Scoble
Apologies. One of those pix was mine. I suppose it must have been an adult photo that was inappropriately designated public and/or safe on flickr. Believe me, when I favorited it I wasn't thinking about its showing up here. My own photos which are safe and appropriate don't show up here so I had basically forgotten about flickr at all. I will be more careful in the future. so how do you delete an item? - Rick Powell
Also I am currently pirating a wifi signal out the window and my connection goes up and down. It's taken me 15 minutes to post that last comment. - Rick Powell
My thought too Francine - and I was arguing just the opposite up until that point. Thanks for making us all think Rick! :) - Tad - just Tad
Despite the brouhaha, or I guess because of it, someone just subscribed to me. :-) - Rick Powell
I'm sorry you saw something that you find objectionable. As a nude photographer I am personally very careful about what and how I share. But I do want to point out the FriendFeed Terms of Service: "In accessing the Site and Services or following links to third-party websites you may be exposed to content that you consider offensive or inappropriate. You agree that your only recourse is to stop using the Site and Services." - Michael Hocter
If you want full control of what you see then only follow specific folks and not the public. I have no intention of only living ( and publishing ) a life that won;t offend someone elses worldview. - Soulhuntre via twhirl
Michael: Yes, disclaimer and all - that's a necessary thing, but I'm pretty sure that the FriendFeed team does not want this to become a free-for-all sharing of objectionable material. They would lose a lot of people fast. I just think some sort of flag for that material that would automatically hide things to FOAF if selected. As it stands, the system is ripe for abuse. - Vince DeGeorge
Vince, I agree FF needs better controls in this area. - Michael Hocter
better controls are already in place. only browse stuff with kids around which is explicitly marked as safe for your point of view. everything else is off limit. - Nicole Simon
