“Some images on FriendFeed aren't loading because Amazon S3 is down. Also, the bookmarklet and mail2ff are unable to share images for the same reason. Hopefully it will be back soon.”
What made me notice was when I commented on this and it stayed in the same spot in my feed instead of popping to the top: http://friendfeed.com/e/f5900f... ETA: for instance, this: http://friendfeed.com/e/9cfa8d... (posted long before my comment and no comments or likes) still is above several active conversation threads - Shannon Jiménez
Shannon, entries eventually stop bubbling so that they don't stay at the top of the page forever. - Paul Buchheit
I thought that was only true with likes, not comments? The item was relatively "old" but the conversation was active today. - Shannon Jiménez
Does this also explain the weird pagination I've been getting lately? I'll have 15 entries on Page 1, then only 8 on Page 2, 1 on Page 3... it's not always reproducible but it's happened to me atleast once a day. - Jennie Lin
“Wordpress.com on Amazon S3 problems : 'Amazon's S3 Service is down which is causing some image serving problems on WordPress.com' (site)” - Jeroen De Miranda
is that why twitter pics are no shows on my stream? - Arne-Per
just read your post - I couldn't comment on a new friend I added - thanks for the heads up! :) - The Pageman
A good reason not to rely on "the cloud"? - Gabe Schaffer
I have the same problem in Twitter as well - CARisME
Agree with Gabe. It's what happens when the cheapest solution is chosen. - Anthony Citrano
I love it when people say "don't rely on the cloud" it always makes me wonder what they think is a better alternative than a large number of geographically distributed datacenters looked after by a company with the track record and finances of Amazon. - Adewale Oshineye
Adewale: it depends on what kind of business you're running. For businesses where an actual transaction is involved (FriendFeed is not that business currently) what is a better alternative than a large number of geographically distributed datacenters is a large number of geographically distributed data centers from multiple providers. - Robert Seidman
Adewale there are MUCH better alternatives, such as real CDNs; even better, distribute your load across a couple of CDNs. People are choosing S3 at the moment because it's cheap, not because it's the best solution for reliable global content delivery. - Anthony Citrano
I have bad news for you: CDNs fail too. Everything fails. It's just that if you're in a business where failure will cost you serious money then you can spend the money to acquire massive amounts of redundancy (in hardware, network routes, power supplliers, etc). Unfortunately a company like FF would go bust trying to get that kind of redundancy when they'll only need it a few times a year. - Adewale Oshineye
I am aware that CDNs fail too - I have a client in that business. Do some research and compare S3 with the top few CDNs - several media and analyst firms have done some unbiased testing - and you'll see why it's often worthwhile to spend a little extra. And you don't have to actually build global redundancy - you can rent it. And finally: none of the top CDNs have failed the way S3 has over the past 12 months. - Anthony Citrano
per Werner Vogels "“S3 EU is green again " - so we s/be seeing normalcy being return to the web. :)- - Peter Dawson
I think Adewale's point is that FriendFeed and its ilk can totally eat this failure. I mean, if Twitter can survive with all its self-inflicted failure, a few hours a quarter without images won't do FriendFeed in. Building something complicated based on CDNs and stuff is just more trouble than it's worth. Sure, if you *really* care about reliability you'll go to a much greater extent to identify and remove SPOFs, but that doesn't really have much to do with "in house" vs "hosted" app infrastructure. - ⓞnor
mark not sure if the US is up. as per last brief "3:23 PM PDT EU service has been fully restored. We have been working on the US in parallel but restoration will take longer due to fleet size." - Peter Dawson
