One would have thought this would have happened a long time ago, rather than to keep going on and exhaust both parties both mentally and financially. - cmiper
I find it hard to believe HRC will concede until the DNC at the very earliest. Her self-interest needs outweigh the Democratic party at-large. - Scott Jarkoff
As an outsider....she looks a bit mental doesn't she. That forced smile creeps me out. I'm sure she actually very nice....but eeegggghhhh. - Chris Nixon via twhirl
Yes Chris, the media always picks the *best* photos the can find to represent her. ;-) - cmiper
This just makes me very sad today Right now I only see 1 way I will not vote for McCain in November - sorry, there is just something about Obama I do not trust, and I hope in the next few years I'm not sitting here saying, at least I didn't vote for him just like I didn't vote for his predecessor. :( And, I can assure you I am not the only one who feels this way. - Paula Hawk
I know what you mean Paula. How can you trust someone who refuses PAC and special interest money, has the courage not to pander to voters with a bogus gas tax repeal, and opposed an immoral war from the very start. This guy sounds dangerous. He might actually do something in office. - Leo Laporte
Love the sarcasm, Leo, allows me to see you in a new light and reinforces to me that I've been right all along to keep my viewpoints to myself. So sorry to have gotten involved in this HRC bashing. :( - Paula Hawk
Obama is the only one I trust to do the right thing. HRC will just say anything to get the vote, but she'll continue the same failed politics. McSame will just give us 4 more years of Bush's politics. - Mike Cohen via Alert Thingy
Mike, I see your point with McCain, but in my eyes it is him or throw my vote completely away on Nader.... Those same failed politics you are speaking of worked very well in the 1990s - for those of you old enough to recall, who did we all say was running the White House at that time anyhow? I was working with the federal government during this time, and I recall the amazement at the budget simply balancing! In an article that I read summarizing Obama's appearance on Meet the Press over this past weekend, the first point that was made was that Obama claimed he has the DNA to be the better president, because he is descended from both Caucasion and African ancestors. What kind of crap is that? I couldn't read any further. I only stopped to read it because I knew I needed to get used to the idea that he was going to beat HRC - but no, I can't vote for someone who is going to say that their ANCESTRY makes them a better candidate. - Paula Hawk
I'm sorry you see my post as "Hillary bashing." In fact, it is not. I am sad to see HRC go. I would have gladly voted for her had she won the nomination. My real problem is with the notion that since, for some undefined reason you "don't trust" Obama, you would consider casting a vote for McCain. Set aside McCain's self-professed ignorance on the economy, and hawkish position on Iraq. The next president will fill at least two, maybe three Supreme Court seats, giving him or her a huge and lasting impact. - Leo Laporte
Paula, I think you misunderstood the statement. Obama is in a a unique position to change the face of the Presidency because he's been on 'both sides of the fence' and could unite the country like no other. To me, that's very attractive because that's exactly what this country needs... A leader that people can rally behind. I just happen to agree with his political stances as well, with lobbyist being the scourge of progression. HRC is 'old politics'... McCain is really old politics. - Vince DeGeorge
I wouldn't vote for HRC if she got the nomination. She's every bit as bad as McSame. In that case I would stay home on election day rather than vote for either of them. - Mike Cohen via Alert Thingy
Paula let's get it right: "You know, I'm somebody who is born to a white mother and a, and an African father. It's in my DNA to believe that we can bring this country together and that the people are the same under the skin. And that's what I've been fighting for all my life, and, you knowto a large degree, everything that I've done as a community organizer, everything that I've done as a state legislator and a United States senator embodies those ideals that we can get people who look differently or speak differently or come from different experiences to recognize what they have in common. - Leo Laporte
Paula, I think it's pretty obvious now that you're a crypto-Republican, misquoting Obama to fuel racist mistrust on McCain's behalf. I expect we'll see a lot more of that through November. If you really are a HRC supporter, I would hope you would chose this time to start talking issues and stop feeding these specious doubts. - Leo Laporte
Good point, Leo. It's great for everyone to have their own way of looking at this race, and some people will, unfortunately, decide to vote against their best interests for whatever reason - hell, middle-class Republicans have been doing it for years - but the idea of putting words into Obama's mouth simply in order to try to bash him with them and, as you point out, fuel racist mistrust, is frankly despicable, if not downright Rovian. - Brad Farris via Alert Thingy
Very interesting to see this much discussion on this topic. I'm in a very conservative state, (ND) and many Republicans here are looking to Obama as a chance. Most don't trust McCain and they surely don't trust HRC. Every time anyone has ever asked me why Obama I've said. "It's a difference in how they conduct politics." HRC and McCain represent old Washington politics. Honestly everything I've heard from my friends involved in the Democratic Party they are suspecting this will get drug out to the National Convention. I really hope that is not the case as the sheer amount of negative press that each side is stirring up is giving more easy fuel for the GOP. - Bryan
WOW I've been called a lot of things in my life, but never a Republican or a crypto-Republican. I said I read an article discussing Obama being on TV, I did not watch the show, I did not read the article any further, but I know that the post I was reading was written by someone who has staunchly supported Obama for the past several months. Call me names if you must. I hope it makes you all feel better. - Paula Hawk
Vince, wanted to make sure I thank you, from the direct quote, yes, I must have misread something, or something was miswritten. And, I just wanted to add, that no one has even bothered much to give me a reason to want to vote for Obama, just to not associate with most of you involved with this conversation. - Paula Hawk
Paula, the most important part of this whole affair is discussion. It's fantastic to see people "talk" politics and really be involved. No, name calling is not necessary in any case. If this election has taught us anything, it's that people, when pushed, are VERY passionate about what they believe in. This debate, no matter which side you stand is very healthy and much better than the apathy that resulted in Bush's re-election. I urge everyone to go beyond the "media" and really look. - Vince DeGeorge
Thanx Vince. In all seriousness, I have waited 8 years for HRC to run, and dammit, I'm pissed as hell that she has blown it the way she has. I know she is better than these silly 'faux pas' she has been making over the past several months. I also know that it is time to accept that HRC has blown it, I accepted that fact before the PA primaries. :( Since then, I have tried to read positive blog posts about Obama, but I keep finding things like http://online.wsj.com/article/... - Paula Hawk
I like you Leo, I do. You work hard and your a good guy and you do a lot for new media. But honestly, you have to be kidding. I didn't realize anyone really used the term "crypto-anything" as more than a punchline for paranoia. Sadly it just adds to the growing impression I have that your biases really do cloud your commentary on technical (and now political) issues. - Soulhuntre
As an Obama supporter.Odd as it may be, I actually appreciate the "intense" campaign HRC ran. It served to prepare him for the assaults he will likely be the target of all the way until November. Not only that but it gave us, the voters, the opportunity to see him operate under pressure and address some of the most volatile topics in American society. So for that, hats off to her. That being said, it's time to step aside and work towards unifying the Democratic Party. - Geoff Schultz
Paula completely misquoted Obama. He didn't say his DNA would make him a better president he said: "You know, I'm somebody who is born to a white mother and a, and an African father. It's in my DNA to believe that we can bring this country together and that the people are the same under the skin." Completely different than what you heard. I don't understand when people say they don't like Obama, and have no reason to back it up. BTW, transcript is here from meet the press: http://blogs.suntimes.com/swee... - Patrick Binder
Patrick, it's a feeling. Can't help it. We all have feelings and we all have our right to feel whatever it is that we feel. Great thing about living in America is that we have the right to express those feelings as we wish. Thank you for the direct quote again, someone else beat you to the punch and slapped me down for misinterpreting a third party review of the interview. You want something to discuss, please see the Wall Street Journal link I gave above. Or, give me a reason YOU like Obama over HRC.. - Paula Hawk
I don't need a soundbite reason to distrust someone... humans make judgments on many, many factors. Tone of voice, cadence, word choice, facial expressions, eye movement, body language.... further, we refine those judgments the more we see of someone. There is also the totality of integrating all that into all the knowledge we have of someone. - Soulhuntre
My feelings about Obama including my distrust come from the totality of my experience with him, not a sentence or a soundbite. Just like many who find him charismatic do so from the totality of their "Obama experience". Fortunately few people judge someone only on the words they actually say - or we would all be trivially easy to fool. - Soulhuntre
Paula: Obama seems to get it. He talks about and I hope he could deliver the ability to unify this nation because it is severely fractured. Who knows if it could be done, but atleast he is willing to try. That is the big reason. I also like that he is running a more clean/positive campaign than HRC. His campaign is also being run very well. AND he doesn't have his hands as deep in lobbyist's pockets. - Patrick Binder
Who the hell am I kidding...I am actually basing my vote on the best looking website...and Obama is clearly ahead of the competition. HRC's website is better now, but is still too cluttered. THESE are the real issues ;) I like HRC, but her campaigning tactics have turned me away. - Patrick Binder
