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Kirsten
The email from ExLibris regarding EBSCO pulling out of Primo Central (EL's discovery layer):
As you may know, for the past eighteen months, we have been indexing in Primo Central a number of the EBSCO databases. EBSCO has now changed their strategy and will no longer permit third-party discovery services to load and index their content. Therefore, starting 1st January 2011 we will cease hosting of the EBSCO content in the Primo Central Index. EBSCO will, however, permit our use of a specialized API to search the EBSCO content ‘just-in-time’. - Kirsten
Since our initial agreement with EBSCO in June 2009, we have made significant progress in working directly with many publishers and other aggregators to dramatically increase the content in the Primo Central Index. In addition we recently reached agreement with Gale whereby their databases in Primo Central will now be available to all, regardless of subscription. Since there is a... more... - Kirsten
Based on a recent analysis of the Primo Central content, we cover, through other channels, over 90% of the data provided by the current EBSCO content loaded in the Primo Central Index. Furthermore, of the small number of titles exclusively available from EBSCO, none of these appears on the list of the 5,000 most used journals, based on SFX logs, and only three appear on the list of the 10,000 most used journals. - Kirsten
We are currently finalizing the details of the new arrangement with EBSCO for ‘just-in-time’ search and will update you as we progress on this. However, we believe that EBSCO’s decision to withdraw their content from the Primo Central Index does not best serve your user’s interests. We therefore strongly encourage you to add your voices directly to those of the ELUNA and IGELU steering committees in requesting that EBSCO reverse their decision and enable their data for indexing. - Kirsten
Ah, ok. That doesn't affect 360 Search, because it's a pure federated search product with no harvesting. But this means that Summon is going to be cut off too. - DJF
holeeeee crap. - jambina
Yeah, the EBSCO databases are still available through MetaLib (EL's federated search). But not being in the discover layer may well do a number on use stats, and if those are bad enough then the state-wide agreements will start to matter less. - Kirsten
my comment on this has disappeared? basically mentioning summon and Ebsco being the new evil empire - Christina Pikas
Could someone offer a TL:DR version? The reference desk is poppin' this morning. - Andy
PRIMO harvests database content into it's central index. EBSCO has cut them off, but it still allows federated searching in realtime. (considering how EBSCO has been cutting off other vendors from hosting content, this doesn't actually surprise me.) - DJF
Christina: You commented on the one in my feed; I reposted to LSW. Apologies for the confusion. - Kirsten
Craptastic. Seriously. We just got 360 Search and are considering Summon. It seems that vendors like EBSCO will defend their damned information silos to the bitter end. Let's all send EBSCO email that say, "Save the time of the user", shall we? - maʀtha
Martha, EBSCO's current dick move shouldn't affect 360 Search, because 360 doesn't harvest. I'm seeing HUGE problems with Search 360 that have nothing to do with EBSCO. I suspect soembody at Serials Solutions spilled their coffee on a computer or soemthing. - DJF
Yes, I wasn't being clear in my carping. I'm thinking about how this EBSCO effects everyone with Summon or who might get Summon (in addition to everyone with Primo). - maʀtha
Are any other libraries reporting problems with 360 Search? - maʀtha
Wait, does anyone have Primo Central yet? This is a fraction of Primo users, no? We have Primo for discovery, but still use Metalib for federated search, so this doesn't affect us. - Meg VMeg
We have it Meg, but I don't know how many libraries are using it. It's still fairly new, I think--our timing was such that we implemented Primo and Primo Central at the same time. Metalib is still in there too, so we do still have access to EBSCO databases. But Metalib is so much slower than Primo Central, I'm worried about how this is going to play out here. People were just getting used to our new interface. - Kirsten
liking so I can bookmark this. We are a completely ex libris shop now so this will definitely affect us. - Elizabeth Brown
It won't affect Summon users as the content harvested direct from the publisher not the indexer, e.g. EBSCO. Summon has around 97% of 'EBSCO' ft content but has never harvested EBSCO - Graham Stone
Meg, we're in the process of setting up Primo Central. We got an email from Ex Libris explaining that we can activate a whole bunch of databases that we don't subscribe to that cover the EBSCO holdings. Then SFX kicks in to locate the article in EBSCO. It's an awkward workaround until the APIs are available. - Zamms
Interesting! - Meg VMeg
Is "just in time" federated search? - María Milagros Fernández
I just want to echo Graham Stone, above. Summon (and ExLibris) are already doing end-around work bypassing the "ease" of importing EBSCO indexing. I think this will ultimately backfire in EBSCO's face as their products get marginalized and their locked-in EDS customers become their only customers. - Aaron the Librarian
If EBSCO/ProQuest/ExLibris start making exclusive indexing deals with major academic publishers, then you can worry. For now, it's just one dog marking a tree that every other dog has marked as well. - Holly's favorite Anna
saw an EBSCO demo for their EDS product last week and the way that the VP was talking they have a few exclusive deals with vendors and publishers that no one else does. He said one going to be announced at some big engineering conference in a few weeks. - Sir Shuping is just sir
I'm with Aaron and Anna on this one - the workarounds are there, so until they have exclusive indexing deals, well....They do tout their indexing as superior, of course, but still. - ~Courtney F
I think when publishers start seeing libraries cancel subscriptions because the titles aren't in their discovery systems, they might reconsider the exclusive deals that seemed so tantalizing now. - Holly's favorite Anna
No use = dropped subscriptions at MPOW... If it isn't indexed in a discovery system there won't be any use. Of course, I'm still working on selling the priority of a unified index as a discovery layer. - Aaron the Librarian
So glad we don't have Primo. The UMN does, but not us. - maʀtha
How did this float to the top today? (It's from 2011) - Aaron the Librarian from Android
spammer spammed, but then got deleted - Sir Shuping is just sir
Ah ok. Added bonus: I still agree with what I said back then. (which does not always happen) - Aaron the Librarian from Android
Ken Gidley
MC/Scott - I found your next nightmare location.
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Why? Just why? Why would you stay there? Why would you build that? Why hasn't it been burned to the ground? - Mary Carmen
Paging Rob Zombie... - Corinne L
Paging Obama, found a use for those drones mate - Mo Kargas
saving for my next ipad messaging section with Ms. 11. - Elizabeth Brown
It's literally in the middle of the Nevada desert too - Tonopah, NV. Creeping mining town vibe, and then this... - Ken Gidley
Nope. - Mary Carmen
Mo wins! - Janet from FFHound!
Sarah G.
At the point in "Written in my own hearts blood" that I have about 15% of book left and so slowing down to savor last few chapters...
I'm still on Fiery Cross. Just 878 more pages to go... - Jen
I think I'm going to do a re-read after this. There's a LOT of characters and situations where I'm like, "who the hell..?" - Sarah G.
That's what's holding me back. I read all the previous books in one go, finishing them up about...2 years ago? Three, maybe? And even then, there were characters and situations where I was like "who the hell...?" So I'm thinking I need to re-read at least the last one (maybe, god help me, all of them) before tackling this one. - Catherine Pellegrino
She's actually pretty good at providing a little explanatory text at who the people are. Not as good as Jim Butcher, who basically re-explains Harry's entire life each book, but enough so that you get the gist. It's more that I have no memory of that happening in the original since it's probably been over a decade since I've read some of the books. - Sarah G.
I've not convinced myself to try to read the new one - Echo in the Bone didn't capture my attention at all. The only thing that might convince me to do so is the notion that it's more focused on Jamie & Claire than other recent(relatively speaking that is) volumes in the series. - ellbeecee
I burned out on those pretty quickly. 20 pages of plot spread out over 100, was the impression I kept getting. - RepoRat
I started a reread of the series - like Sarah G it's been a LONG time since I first read some of them. Still undecided about getting the last one. - Elizabeth Brown
I am going to watch the series, but I can't decide if I want to attempt a re-read before it airs. I remember the general story, but given the way HBO has made significant changes to the True Blood and Games of Thrones storylines, I worry that Starz will do the same, and drive me bonkers with the details. - sglassme
I can say I'm enjoying this one a whole bunch more than the last, but that may be because I am generally in a much better place than when I read that one. - Sarah G.
I'm torn. The last one i read was either Fiery Cross or Drums of Autumn. (and zero of the lord john books). I was thinking I would do audio to catch up, but each of the books is about *45* hours on audio!!! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I think I'm too Catholic to listen to some of those sex scenes being read to me. - Sarah G.
I stopped at Fiery Cross... I loved the first few but by that one... it was dragged out a bit, I think. - Christina Pikas
LB hates stale candy!
How is my flight always at the cul de sac of the farthest possible terminal from where I started? #MurphysLaw
Mine always is too! - Jenny
Once again I'm at the very end of the concourse. - LB hates stale candy! from Android
I always consider getting to airline transfer points as part of my exercise program. - Elizabeth Brown
Exercise opportunity! - Amit Patel
Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
The Words That Are Most Known to Only Men or Women http://www.slate.com/blogs... Didn't know the meaning of two 'male' words but I recognized them
The Words That Are Most Known to Only Men or Women http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/06/23/center_for_reading_research_study_finds_different_vocabulary_words_are_known.html Didn't know the meaning of two 'male' words but I recognized them
'Dreadnought' and 'bolshevism' I had to look up but I knew of those words. I knew they existed. :P - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
I think I did pretty well with both lists. - Stephen Mack
Same. I recognized 'solenoid,' but had to look it up. Some of those make sense to me, and some just WTF. - Jennifer Dittrich
A couple of the "female" words I'm not sure about: mascarpone is a dessert, right? and bottlebrush, is that a brush to clean bottles? - Betsy
Ha ha, this will only make sense to Brits, but I really didn't expect Dean Gaffney to be holding that sword ;-) - Heleninstitches
Really? "golem" is recognized more by men than by women? But hey, it's Slate reprinted from Business Insider, so it must be...never mind. - Walt Crawford
The only word I didn't recognize was "claymore." - John (bird whisperer)
Marscapone is a cheese that's used in desserts. It's awesome! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
what does it mean if i recognised and knew the meaning/definition of everything on both lists? - Big Joe Silence
I'm really shocked. I know my late husband knew (and used) all the "female" words, and the only "male" word I had think about was "codec". But then "claymore" and "scimitar" and "dreadnought" show up in a lot of history and historical fiction, so there's that. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Also is humvee a word? Like an actual word. Because it's the pronunciation of the brand name of that ridiculous big ass car! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
"humvee" entered the colloquial lexicon about 20 years back, so yes. - Big Joe Silence
"Humvee" is apparently in the American English online version of the OED http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us... - Victor Ganata
OED seems to adopt early. - Big Joe Silence
Well, I think OED tends to pick up words early because they're trying to document actual usage, not prescribe "correct English". - Victor Ganata
I have about as much familiarity with "scimitar" dreadnought" and "claymore" as I do with "decoupage" "taffeta" and "tresses"... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I still say humvee shouldn't be a word, yo. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
If we use it and people know what we're talking about, it's a word. :-) - Kirsten
@Zulema: thanks. So I guess I was half right about mascarpone? - Betsy
Am I the only one that clicked through to take the test? (scored 81% with no nonwords) - April Russo
I didn't even notice there was a test. I scrolled straight to the list. - Betsy
There was a test? oh! I got 84%. (no nonwords) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
84% with one nonword (I should listen to myself more). - Betsy
90% with zero nonwords, and I recognized "zloty" about a second after I said I didn't recognize it. ("bedaub" may be a word, but I'll continue not to recognize it.) - Walt Crawford
You got different words than I did. - Betsy
93% - Katy S
Could the female word list be any more stereotypical? Ugh. - Heather
87%, no nonwords. The words I missed were: inspectoral, tisane, whipstall, axil, trimaran, agronomics, scarfskin, tercenteniary, and coltsfoot. I got up to 91% with a retest. - Stephen Mack
90%, no nonwords, I missed acicular, syringa, yashmak, exponible, latria, strickle, and filature. I lost some time cackling at the non-word bodibator. #iam12 - Victor Ganata
93% on the retest. I missed borecole, redingote, instauration, imbrue, and complaisantly. - Victor Ganata
Familiar with all of the but would probably fumble trying to give an exact dictionary definition of solenoid and dreadnought. - Spidra Webster
83% on the test - ended up fat-fingering a couple of words I knew, but oh well. The ones I genuinely missed were random fashion/sewing accessory related. Take that, sexist word knowing thingie. Or something. - Jennifer Dittrich
Betsy: If the test is set up well, that will usually happen--e.g., I saw only one or two of Stephen's and Victor's words. - Walt Crawford
I hadn't realized people would get different words. I would've posted my missed words. - Betsy
http://vocabulary.ugent.be/wordtes... Words that I didn't know - falderal (didn't connect this as the same as folderal, darn my Texas drawl), hoatzin, paraxial, aquilegia, polyclonal, diplopod. - Greg GuitarBuster
81%. No non-words. Not bad knowing that English is not my first language. - Uli
thinking a lot of men thought decoupage was decolletage. :) - Elizabeth Brown
I thought a solenoid was a lonely noid - Pete
88%. I got three wrong. There were some funky words on my list. - Elizabeth Brown
It's interesting that the test doesn't require you to define the word, just agree that it is a word. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I think asking for definitions would be extremely difficult. What should the algorithm consider as a correct definition? I think only counting a verbatim dictionary definition (and from which dictionary?) would result in a lot of false negatives. - Victor Ganata
What Victor sez. - Walt Crawford
I'm imagining multiple choice of the rough domain the word is in. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Joe Hardy
We have fallen into a frozen waffle breakfast routine rut. Please HELP! Need ideas for food in hand on the go options for children 3,3,7
Both my daughter and I like Belvita crackers. So does our black cat. - Elizabeth Brown
String cheese and hardboiled eggs? - Regular Amanda
I should make more hardboiled eggs! - Joe Hardy
I think I need to get them alll to come upstairs and sit down to eat for a second as well - Joe Hardy
egg muffins? I do a couple dozen at a time and then warm in the toaster oven/microwave. Eggs/various vegetables/cheese/bacon as desired-- cook bacon, mix other, fill muffins, bake 350 for 20 minutes ish? I use silicon muffin cups, far easier than scraping a muffin pan clean - Hedgehog
PB&J. - Bren from iPhone
Frozen pancakes? Gogurt and cereal bar. Cereal in a cup, no milk. - Yvonne from FFHound!
PBJ is 50% of what they eat for lunch ;) - Joe Hardy
Muffins! that sounds good as long as they stay at the table to eat. - Joe Hardy
Yvonne: they LOVE cereal but often demand milk (insistently) - Joe Hardy
Cut-up fruit, toasted bagels - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Fruit. Just cut up a bunch of fruit beforehand. Give them yogurt and granola and let them choose what they want. Not ideal if you're rushing out the door. Also, with the frozen waffles, sometimes I'll prepare them like french toast or cinnamon toast. Dip in yogurt. - Anika
Baked oatmeal squares or in muffin shapes or smoothies in straw cups - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Oh egg muffins sound good. Like little frittatas - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Yes and they are wonderful fridge/freezer glue. Throw things in a cup, add eggs, bake. Tada! We call them Egg Pucks at Chez Hedgehog because they puff up in the oven but then collapse. Really great protein punch. here's a good basic recipe http://allrecipes.com/recipe... - Hedgehog
definitely going to try those.! - Joe Hardy
Elizabeth Brown
Spices restocked and organized.
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Ooooh, pretty - Hedgehog
Thanks! I think I'll make this the background for my ipad. - Elizabeth Brown
Stocked and organized spices are so satisfying! - Galadriel C. from Android
oooooooh. i love this. - holly #ravingfangirl
Yeah, this was fun to do. The mister just gave me a blank look afterwards. - Elizabeth Brown
Betsy
The new LSW Member Twitter Handle Post, just in case. (The old one is at http://friendfeed.com/lsw... )
(Is there a list for non-LSW?) - Betsy
@BetsyVera2 - Betsy
@ElaineLibrarian - LibrarianOnTheLoose
@reddite - Pete
@ellbeecee - ellbeecee
@webgoddess - WebGoddess
@cpellegr - Catherine Pellegrino
@eabrown25 - Elizabeth Brown
@LibSkrat - RepoRat
@disedlibrarian - Rebecca Hedreen
@bfister - barbara fister
@s_francoeur - Stephen Francoeur
@orgmonkey - Marie
@CogSciLibrarian - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
@grasshopperlibr - maʀtha
@gohomekiki - Kirsten
@spamgirl - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
@dupuisj - John Dupuis
@newrambler - laura x
@oajoe and @bibliobrew - Joe
@waltcrawford - Walt Crawford
@cpikas - Christina Pikas
@hedgielib - Hedgehog
@weelibrarian - weelibrarian
@julian2 - Julian
@lisalibrarian - Lisa Hinchliffe
@desertlibrarian - Ruth Kneale
@mjreddin - Marianne
@megvmeg - Meg VMeg
@czammarelli - Zamms
@k8southern - Katy S from iPhone
Don't make me resort to tweeting! Please *whimpers* - Heleninstitches
I hope we don't have to, but I also don't want to lose you. :-( - Betsy
*sighs* @heleninstitches - Heleninstitches
@suelibrarian - suelibrarian from iPhone
@freedabrook - Freeda B.
@deborahfitchett --Oh wait, also I recently started @freeasinsmiles trying to post a new OA resource a day. - Deborah Fitchett
@rudibrarian - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
@jsholman - Jen
@gchilton - Galadriel C. from Android
@wawoodworth - Andy
@henare - henry
@younglibrarian - Katie
@library_chic - ~Courtney F
would some kind person please turn this into a public list? Twitter hates me right now - maʀtha
I don't know what that means. - Betsy
Working on it Martha :) - Hedgehog
Here's a public list on Twitter--it wont' let me add me to the list so don't forget to follow me! https://twitter.com/hedgiel... - Hedgehog
thank you! - maʀtha
Elizabeth Brown
Pared down my social profile - noticed someone was using my old blogger username!
and she was an 18yo college student. Moral: make sure your old accounts are deleted. - Elizabeth Brown
Meg VMeg
Holy crap, Jean-Claude Bradley died???? :(((((
so it seems. I am sad. He was on the side of the angels. - RepoRat
WHUT - jambina
oh my. that is very sad. - jambina
I'm sad too. He was a good person in all senses of the word. - John Dupuis
Wow, sudden news. I'm glad Tony was able to share this, since he knew him so well. - Elizabeth Brown
oh so sad. I saw him at ASIS&T way back when. RIP. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Retroactively proud to have shared a stage with him at SLA once. - RepoRat
I just pinged Drexel archives to see if they'll pick up the UsefulChem website. If not, I will yell and scream and stomp my feet until somebody else does or my digital-curation students do it next spring, whichever comes first. - RepoRat
Got a "thanks, kicking this up the chain" response from an archives tech there. - RepoRat
Had he been sick or anything? Does anyone know? I don't really see anything from him since ~2012 except for his White House visit. - Christina Pikas
Haven't a clue. This came out of the clear blue as far as I'm concerned. - RepoRat
What? Damned. There goes another good one. Now I am going to start crying... - Joe
So sad. - Sarah
What a loss. I remember, Meg, when you brought him to that kick ass conference at NYU you did a while back (and Elizabeth and Tony were there as presenters, too). - Stephen Francoeur
Yeah, I hadn't heard anything about an illness. I'm proud to have presented with him at the OpenSciNY and an ACS regional meeting a while back. Glad his work will be archived and remembered. - Elizabeth Brown
Archivist got back to me; IA has apparently been crawling the site, but recent crawls have failed and she's going to look into it. I thanked her, suggested the embedded content might be part of the issue, and offered to throw some students at it if they couldn't get a satisfactory IA crawl. - RepoRat
So sad. I met him at a Science Commons Symposium back in 2011 - the only other group I followed here on FF. Was so inspired by the idea of Open Notebook Science. He'll be missed. - Grumpator
Thanks for pursuing, RR. - Meg VMeg
NP. Somebody had to; why not me. - RepoRat
JC was an inspiration - literally - to a whole bunch of us. Was never happy with saying something could (let alone should) be done if he wasn't actually getting on and doing it. Usually with a crap-load of appropriated technology, bailing twine and duct tape - Cameron Neylon
Does lead me to wonder once again about archiving this place. You can't get back into stuff much pre-2011 systematically but it seems to be their if you can trigger google to give you a link. Quite a lot of history buried in the FF archives. - Cameron Neylon
SIGH okay lemme think about it. Could be a good, though VASTLY less than simple, digital-curation project for next year's students. - RepoRat
Sorry, didn't mean to suggest you should take it on. Just that its the second time in a month I wanted to dig back in and realised that you run into a wall if you just keep paging back. May need to talk to someone with control of the back end. - Cameron Neylon
No, it's worth thinking about, and would be a solid project if I can keep it from being overwhelming. - RepoRat
Let's get Jason Scott on this, too! - Stephen Francoeur
sure. I'll talk to him at the Harvard thinger. - RepoRat
I've been trying to figure out how to scrape just LSW for a project I'm working on...tossing in a hat of willing to help if I can - Hedgehog
Does anyone mind if I link to this from this blog post? http://cameronneylon.net/blog... - Cameron Neylon
Not at all. - RepoRat
Nope. - Meg VMeg
Be my guest. - Stephen Francoeur
Thanks, now linked. - Cameron Neylon
Mary Carmen
In preparation for another move, I am clearing out some of my stash yarn. Lots of good, high quality wool in various weights. Photos and details here: https://www.flickr.com/photos... 5$ per skein/hank, will negotiate price for the larger lots. If you need it wound add $1 to each skein/hank. Plus 1st class shipping.
May I ask what pattern you had in mind for the Nutmeg skeins? I am seriously drooling but as a novice knitter I need a very easy sweater pattern. - Janet
Sure. Lemme go find it. - Mary Carmen
http://www.craftsy.com/supplie... I wanted to try this one but the pattern is only when you purchase yarn - Janet
you buried the lead! moving??? - Lnorigb
Janet, I was going to make this, which is not a simple pattern. However, if you'd like, I can help you find an easy sweater pattern. http://tahkistacycharles.com/t... - Mary Carmen
Yeah, we are moving back to the San Jaoquin Valley. Scott has a good work from home gig going, we need space, and we can't resist the pull of the $1600 5bdr/3bth homes for rent. - Mary Carmen
Janet, you can get that pattern you like for $6: http://www.ravelry.com/pattern... - Mary Carmen
Then give me a price for the nutmeg lot, shipping is to Denver, PA (17517) I can do PayPal. Thanks for finding the pattern!! Your planned sweater is so far off my grid of skill level! - Janet
Is that closer to or farther from Lancaster/Palmdale? Which is about an hour east of Camarillo. - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Okay. 90 minutes. - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Yeah, we are moving back to Stockton/Lodi. - Mary Carmen
Wait, what???? Awww - Stephen Mack
San Joaquin Valley for the win!! Glad to have you back this way, MC & Scott! - Corinne L
Sorry, Stephen.....can't justify the rent here. Corinne, we have to make a date. - Mary Carmen
Can I get the Malabrigo Sock and Suburst Gold Lamb's Pride? Plus the green, purple, and oatmeal Cacade 220s. - Alix May
Yup. DM me your addy and I can give you a postage estimate. - Mary Carmen
Most definitely, MC! Give me a shout once y'all are settled in at your new place. - Corinne L
ack! I want all the things! I'll put a wishlist together by end of day. - t-ra: WeirdnessSandwich
Is the Malabrigo taken? - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Also the pink Manos de Uruguay? :) - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Z, the Malabrigio is taken, the Manos is not. - Mary Carmen
Manos, The Hands of Fate. - Betsy
I'd like 2 skeins of the currant Knit Picks Wool of the Andes, the lettuce Knit Picks Andean silk, and mountain green Wool Pak Yarns NZ. - t-ra: WeirdnessSandwich
I'd love the pink Manos de Uruguay! How many do you have? - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Just to be clear: the pinks from this photo https://www.flickr.com/photos... PLUS this variegated version: https://www.flickr.com/photos... - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
^OMG getting a conference request approved at work has me speaking 'corporate' on here. >.< Haha! Sorry. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
T & Z - just got back from grocery shopping. Imma put the stuff away, feed the kid and then get your stuff together. Could you DM me your addresses so I can estimate shipping. - Mary Carmen
I added 3 more photos. A new yarn: https://www.flickr.com/photos... and what's in the grab bags in case anyone wants to pick and choose: https://www.flickr.com/photos... There are some full skeins in there. Just ask and I can tell you all I remember. - Mary Carmen
Z- there are 2 full skeins of the light pink and I'd say a hlf or a bit more of the darker one. I have 4 full skeins of the varigated. - Mary Carmen
*bumping* - Mary Carmen
Oooh! I like the Smiley Stripes! What were you going to make with that? I could totally see a cute baby blanket with that. =) - Yvonne from FFHound!
If Yvonne doesn't want it, I'll take the Smiley Stripes. But god only knows when I'll find time to knit, so I won't fight over it. :D - Jenica
Yvonne, I was going to make a baby sweater with it....but I never got the time. - Mary Carmen
I've found a few cute crochet patterns with variegated yarn, but I'm not sure I'll find the time. =( Jenica can have them. - Yvonne from FFHound!
Jenica, it's yours if you want it. - Mary Carmen
I do! - Jenica from iPhone
I DM'd you the info. - Mary Carmen
I've already tempted Alix in a DM, but if you are into sock yarn, I can tell you that there are 2 full skeins of Mountain Colors sock yarn in two different colorways, and 1.5 skeins of Blue Moon Fiber Arts BFL Sport. - Mary Carmen
bumping again. There is some great sock yarn still available for those of you who like to knit socks.....or wanna make a shawl or something. - Mary Carmen
Bumping again. ADDED YARN TODAY - Mary Carmen
Mary, STAHP! But first send me that blue moon fiber arts bfl sport. :D - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Is there anything left? I like the Manos and the rainbow lot of Cascade 220. - Elizabeth Brown
Meg VMeg
Turns out, I originally learned to knit Continental style.
Turns out, there are styles of knitting. - Meg VMeg
Similarly there are different kinds of buttercream. - Zamms from iPhone
Shit, really? Just last year, I learned there were different kinds of bourbon balls. - Meg VMeg
That's the way I always knit. The only true way. ;) - lris
So is it more common than the book I'm using claims it to be? - Meg VMeg
I know a few people who knit that way. It's decidedly more efficient. - lris
My mom told me about how the less efficient way was invented to show that aristocrats were doing this for fun rather than of necessity. And Wikipedia says that the efficiency was associated with Germany, and therefore fell out of favor during WWII. Whichever way, people are trying to explain why they decided to go with the harder way, so I feel superior. :) - lris
My grandmother taught me to knit when I was 11. She knitted Continental style but taught me to throw the yarn as an easier method. - Janet
I can knit continental and I do knit both ways doing color work but i was taught American style when I was little and it's what comes naturally. Wish it were the other way. - Christina Pikas from iPhone
I taught myself to knit from a book that taught both, so I went for efficiency. Then I quit knitting out of boredom. - laura x from iPhone
I learned the English style and much later learned Continental. I still can't switch over to Continental completely. There's also a third style, it's more common in eastern Europe. - Elizabeth Brown
There are also some interesting techniques out of South America. I knit English method unless I'm doing colorwork, but I had to learn to teach both because I had students who needed help with both styles. - Hedgehog
Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Those of you who talk about "inbox zero," do you mean getting rid of unread messages? Or do you literally get your inbox empty?
My goal is to file or delete all the messages. Right now, I would be delighted with Inbox 100. - maʀtha
A lot of us are referring to Merlin Mann's Inbox Zero series: http://inboxzero.com/articles/ . For my part, I try for less than a screenful of un-dealt-with inbox. I'm not there at the moment, I admit. - RepoRat
Yeah, filed or deleted so there's nothing in the inbox. I get there every once in a while. I get twitchy if I have more than a screenful of un-dealt-with stuff in my inbox. - lris
what iris said. - holly #ravingfangirl
Yep, nothing at all in the inbox once a day is my goal. - Steele Lawman
I make up for all of you with my email hoarding ways. ;) - ellbeecee
Inbox 914. - DJF
you're not even close to me there, buddy. Inbox 6,000 and counting. (I can hear the gasps across the country from my admitting that. Breathe, everyone. :) ) - ellbeecee
I follow the Getting Things Done method of do, delegate, and defer, so I aim to file or tag for follow up all messages every day. I get there at least every three days. At this time of year, I give myself a pass to have a few more. - GretelSK
I'm not an evangelist for inbox zero--when it comes down to it, 6,000 messages in "inbox" isn't that different from 6,000 messages in "saved mail." So it all depends on what makes you feel less anxious and what allows you the freedom to do the stuff you want to be doing, rather than fretting over email. - Steele Lawman
My goal is to have no scroll bar, with everything still in the inbox a legitimate "to do." Everything else gets filed or deleted. - Kirsten
I'm with Kirsten - right now, I'm all unread with about 50 unfiled message. (some I leave in inbox because they make me smile, like this from lolhusband >^•.•^< ) - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Right, for me, less in the inbox lowers my anxiety. If I remove stuff from the inbox before I deal with it, I forget about it entirely. - maʀtha
Something that's helped me get my work inbox down is a 'for meetings this week' folder. I can stick stuff in temporary holding there and I try to clean it out every other week, by then the meetings have passed - Hedgehog from Android
Same as Kirsten - everything in my inbox is something to deal with, and I never leave more than 10 in there. - Lily
Thank you ellbeecee! DJF! I am ashamed to admit this, but I actually started printing out emails relating to stuff that needed to be fixed on the new website. It really helped me to be able to touch and scribble "done" or "followed up on...." I've also learned that I'm very good at GETTING organized, but dreadful at staying that way, so I have made friends with "search Inbox" and tried not to feel less loser-like. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
My inbox is like 2700. I love search. - laura x from iPhone
Filed, deleted, and followed-up-on. My inbox is my workspace, though I do call "inbox zero" only when the items flagged for today or overdue are completed, and when there are no new messages to process. - Holly's favorite Anna
I have a "pending" folder, which I guess is kind of cheating? But it helps lower my anxiety as well. - YvonneM
I like to have less than a screen of stuff pending, and archive or delete the rest each day. Time out of the office is tough, though. - Elizabeth Brown
I lol at the idea of inbox zero, though I live to delete. - kaijsa
after this thread I did go delete some. when I left for the desk at 4, I was down to around inbox 4000. - ellbeecee
*fistbumps Ellbeecee and Laura X* It must be a Laura thing. ;) - LB hates stale candy! from Android
I too am a "search" person. I periodically clear out list messages which helps knock things down. I think of the email addresses I use most often, the one with the least messages has around 750 (unread), the next couple have around 2800 (unread). Then there's alter ego's email which has around 18,000 (unread). Basically, I skim the subject lines and often don't bother to do anything beyond that. - Katie
It *is* a Laura thing! Personal inbox 6,431. Work - who knows but there's 2176 unread ... - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
I'm looking up how to stiffen a knitted piece but still be able to wear it so it can't be stiff as bark. *sigh*
Spray starch? - Marie
Yeah, the more I read the more I think that's the only solution. Thanks for the confirmation! :) - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
:) - Marie
you could felt it - but that would change the size/dimensions - Elizabeth Brown
Oh no, that would ruin the lace. :) - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
if it's wool, iron on interfacing? but lace... probably not - Christina Pikas
Yeah, I'm knitting this cowl: http://www.ravelry.com/pattern... but I doubt this yarn will stand up as well as the cotton used for the photo. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Oh yeah - felting would not work for lace. I like the spray starch idea. - Elizabeth Brown
RepoRat
User talk:Scholarly kitchen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
For the delectation of all, or at least sundry. - RepoRat from Bookmarklet
oh my. thank you. - jambina
Wow! - Galadriel C.
reading the various appeals, "generally being a jerk" also seems in play - RepoRat
awesome eta: ka is clearly not reading the criticism which they're taking pains to explain to him - Christina Pikas
He thinks he is He Who Must Be Obeyed. - RepoRat
Meanwhile, Wikipedia actually has an article on Skitch, one with all the "neutral viewpoint" of a press release and no Talk page at all. I didn't realize advocacy blogs were either (a) suitable as Wikipedia topics, (b) appropriate as source material, unlike other online sources. (I think we've all figured out that ka has a certain form of reading disability, so that's no surprise.) - Walt Crawford
shall we all go flag it? *g* - RepoRat
Reading the comments has been immensely enjoyable. - Andy
Sometimes I think I am an asshole. Sometimes I realize it's true. But damn, I am not in Kent Anderson's class. - RepoRat
Nice: "As such, this unblock request is denied and your next request will likely be the last. Sorry, you can't be unblocked without actually doing some reading" - Aaron the Librarian
That's terrible: That's discrimination against the willfully ignorant and self-important assholes. (Although Wikipedia has plenty of self-important assholes involved, at least they're willing to Read the Rules.) - Walt Crawford
The page has now been deleted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Graham Steel
Also interesting that the entry for the SSP is under "Investigation of potential copyright issue," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Joe
whoa. - jambina
the claim appears to be that the SSP's own web page was infringed upon. The claim was lodged manually, by the same editor who deleted the SKitch page. I'm the last person to defend either SSP or SKitch, but this is starting to look a bit sketchy-vendettaish. - RepoRat
user Meyercarol has since disappeared... i agree with you RR - jambina
I agree with RR here as well. - Walt Crawford
My Favorite link in the response section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Elizabeth Brown
Carol Meyer tweeted my (ill advised) ssp talk a few years ago. Got stuff annoyingly wrong. - Christina Pikas from iPhone
I think Scholarly Kitchen and Wikipedia deserve each other. - Steele Lawman
YvonneM
Are there any 2nd career librarians here? What, to you, are some of the pros & cons? I'm working on a blog post & running out of ideas.
isn't is more difficult to find first career librarians? i was a naval officer so anything would be better than that! I think there's some value to working in a domain before becoming a librarian. More breadth so better/easier question answering. Also, I use my knowledge gained from my previous career in my job. just friday i was talking about the employment of the 5" gun for countering small boats :) Plus you get better leadership and management training in other fields - Christina Pikas
You understand a broader picture of the working world, I think - in that you see clearly how skills are transferable across environments. (this is all I've got at the moment :) ) - ellbeecee
Pros: I have a full-time job with benefits, which I didn't have in my first field. Cons: at 43, I'm just now earning tenure. - Catherine Pellegrino
Going from highly experienced professional to fresh out of school is a bit of a shock to the system - DJF from Android
I'm a 3rd career librarian (1st was acquisitions in book publishing, 2nd was development for a large nonprofit). I don't see any cons, just pros. I think I learned a lot of things in prior careers that have served me well in librarianship where some of those things aren't commonly taught (e.g., how to communicate well, project management, working really really fast under tons of pressure). - Stephen Francoeur
Thanks for the feedback. These are all good points. - YvonneM
Cons: I could have been having fun being a librarian much earlier in my life. - Stephen Francoeur
Colleague who would've been great for this is no longer available, but an article he was quoted in about second careers was quoted extensively in his obit. http://couriernews.suntimes.com/news... - Betsy
@Stephen....Totally agree! Thanks, Betsy. Bill sounds like he was amazing :-) - YvonneM
I can't say that I had a career prior to librarianship, but I did have multiple professional jobs. I think that working in different kinds of organizations (particularly outside of academic institutions) is extremely helpful in understanding professionalism, workplace culture, and as Christina said, broader/better information/experience in management and leadership. - Galadriel C.
I'm almost 2nd career? I'm ABD in religious studies, before deciding to become a librarian (with a pitstop as a textbook editor while I made the transition to library school). The advanced graduate work has been invaluable to me as a librarian. My understanding of the nature of research and scholarship comes from that, and in no way from my LIS degree. I don't think I could work with grad students and faculty very effectively without that background. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
May I use quotes in the blog post? If so, let me know. Thanks! - YvonneM
this is my second career, and i actively look for 2nd career peeps on hiring committees. they bring real world views to the academic bubble AND often understand that a deadline is a deadline. - jambina
Pro; Prior work experience helps put things in context. Con: I make a lot less money than I did as a software engineer. - kristin buxton
Third-ish here. Adjunct teaching after PhD then a jump to the telecom industry where I did writing, project management, web publishing, and crisis comms work. Mostly pros here too: transferrable skills in a lot of areas, a tendency to think in terms of deliverables that need to be completed on time or early, and an ability to work fast in a fire drill/goat rodeo. Sometimes a con: committees structures can puzzle me. - Heather
the main con is the management might try to exploit existing experience from past career and give similar tasks but that's the main reason why the person switched - to do something different. I have seen this apply also for people switching between libraries too - aaron from BuddyFeed
pro is because you have actual working experience in the industry you can be a pretty good subject liaison in that area. - aaron from BuddyFeed
Second here, though I didn't get out of grad school for the first (research zoologist). Definitely helps liaising to science faculty. I may have that degree, but I do understand first hand the research process. The teaching experience was invaluable, too. - Rebecca Hedreen
Second here too - I was formerly a chemist. I made the change because I wanted to interact more with people than machines. I'm glad I switched careers. - Elizabeth Brown
Second here too, a political scientist in my former life. Made the change because I had more fun teaching my fellow grad students how to use JSTOR than in thinking about my dissertation :) - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
Meg VMeg
Man, I hate Snickers.
WHAT. MEG. - holly #ravingfangirl
They are my dad's favorite. He used to take most of our snickers from our trick or treat haul each year. He told us it was a lesson on "commission" because he is the one that took us out. - LibrarianOnTheLoose
I don't really like candy. - laura x
It's like all I can taste is the corn syrup. - Meg VMeg
How about guffaws? - Steele Lawman
Giggle : melts in your mouth, then in your heart - Pete
I like Hee Haw, does that count? I also haaaaaaaaaate candy corn. - Meg VMeg
I'm mostly with laura x on this one...although, admittedly, I'll eat leftover KitKats after tonight as long as they last. One snack-size bar a week. On Sunday mornings, when it's a couple of hours between when I get up and when we have breakfast. - Walt Crawford
More for me! (There's a stash of mini-Snickers in one of my desk drawers) - Hedgehog
I like Snickers well enough, though they're not really a favorite. (I mainly like dark chocolate candy.) - John (bird whisperer)
Mounds for me. (When faced with the vast choice of candy bars, I have to go all the way through the jingle to remember the name. "Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. Almond Joy's got nuts. Peter Paul Mounds don't.") - Betsy
I never liked them much either. Oddly, I did like Milky Ways as a kid, because they are similar to them. - Elizabeth Brown
kendrak
Can I just get a HELL YEAH MEG V MEG ROCKS? Or maybe a simple Happy Birthday?
hell yeah meg v meg rocks! also happy birthday! - Sir Shuping is just sir
Happy birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Stephen Francoeur
I love me some Meg! Happy Birthday! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
* warms up the confetti cannon * - Julian
... and she does indeed rock. - Julian
Happy birthday, Meg. - Betsy
Happy! - Jenica from iPhone
Happy happy! - ellbeecee
Happy birthday, Meg! - Mary Carmen
HELL YEAH HAPPY BIRTHDAY! - laura x
HAPPY MEG DAY! - holly #ravingfangirl
HIPY PAPY BTHUTHDTH THUTHDA BTHUTHDY - Catherine Pellegrino
happy happy happy happy! - lris
Happy birthday :) - Pete
I LOVE MEGVMEG - jambina from FFHound(roid)!
happiest of birthdays!!!! - LibrarianOnTheLoose
Happy Birthday Meg! - Hedgehog
Happy birthday, Meg! - Jason P
HELL YEAH MEG V MEG ROCKS - WebGoddess
HELL YEAH MEG V MEG ROCKS - Joe
Happy Birthday! - Elizabeth Brown
HELL YEAH IT IS MEG'S BIRTHDAY! - Joe Hardy
Happy birthday, Meg, and many happy returns! - Lily
Aw, thanks! - Meg VMeg
Happy B-daaay!! - Kathy
All of the above and another hell yeah, - barbara fister from iPhone
HELL TO THE AW YEAH - RepoRat
HELL YEAH!!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! - Katy S
Many happy returns. Rock on. - Megan loves summer
Hellz to tha yeah! Have a great birthday! - LB hates stale candy! from Android
HELL YEAH! - MoTO: Tufted Coqeutte from Android
You guys are the best. - Meg VMeg
Belated birthday wishes; I hope you had an awesome one! - Galadriel C. from Android
Hope you had a wonderful birthday and that the party continued all weekend! - Jen
Christina Pikas
Gov't call for proposals has a requirement that proposer have an h-index over 18 (or... ). topic is Psychology. our psychologists think that's pretty rare. A way to search for psychology and sort by h-index? researcher id and scopus don't appear to have a way
It might ! I'll give it a try - thanks! - Christina Pikas from iPhone
good gawd. I will *never* have an h-index of 18, especially with a time limit imposed. how the hell much do people publish in a year? yikes. - RepoRat
Grad students who list you on their papers? - Hedgehog
yeah, if you run a lab or a bunch of clinical trials, I guess I can see it. - RepoRat
what is a "normal" h-index in LIS, I wonder, limiting to the universe of libns/rschrs who actually publish? - RepoRat
i would say LIS probably has three groupings of normal... humanities/archives types, computery (IR, HCI, NLP) types, and standard LIS... I would guess the computery parts are higher - Christina Pikas
Lol. I have an h-index of 2. This is unlikely to climb very much higher. - kaijsa
are they looking for really old proposers? That's kind of a crazy barrier. - barbara fister
Also, 18 by whose count? - Hedgehog
I agree that H index is essentially an age index. If you are an older academic, you are more likely to have 18 articles with 18 or more citations. - Joe
some uses try to control for that by adding "in the last X years," but even so, the floor is pretty high and n00bs not welcome! - RepoRat
the plugin doesn't work for me - javascript error - but figure 3 here: http://projectimplicit.net/nosek... shows this would be about right for the 20 years since phd mark in social psychology - Christina Pikas
I have an h-index! Of 1. On Google Scholar. Still, I was excite. - Deborah Fitchett
... isn't social psych where all the making-stuff-up allegations are flying? Diederik (sp?) Stapel's turf? - RepoRat
Google Citations does an automatic h-index count... - Björn Brembs
You can rank "most cited authors" within a discipline here http://highlycited.com/categor... but does not spit out h index - I wonder whether you can get this from http://www.harzing.com/pop.htm or from http://scholarometer.indiana.edu/about... Would be interested in knowing what solution you find - it would be useful for our library citations working group - Kubke
h-index of 18 suggests to me they are limiting to tenured academic faculty. Depending on the area of psych the h-index could vary a lot, so I would try to see what area it covers. Our neuropsychologists have pretty high h-indexes, other areas would probably be lower. - Elizabeth Brown
Where was this call for proposals, btw? - Sarah from FreshFeed
sorry - just saw this now: https://www.fbo.gov/index... - Christina Pikas
Thanks! - Sarah
LibrarianOnTheLoose
I need to bounce some thoughts off of someone who knows a bit about comparisons between Web of Science, Scopus, and Google Scholar. Anyone? I'll DM you if you are willing to be my rubber wall...
sorta? I'll follow you. - Christina Pikas
MEG - kendrak
CogSciLibrarian at the gmails. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Happy to help. I was just about to post a tangentially related question! - Meg VMeg
I can help too. - Elizabeth Brown
I might be able to oblige. - Joe
Meg VMeg
Anyone know offhand of any databases that let you search by author address/affiliation, other than Web of Science and Scopus?
Dissertation abstracts.... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Oh, good one, I didn't think of that. - Meg VMeg
Scifinder, maybe? - John Dupuis
PubMed has an affiliation tag that you can search in advanced search - Hedgehog
but I think maybe the affiliation data isn't in older records? - maʀtha
PsycINFO does - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Did ProQuest keep that aspect of the CSA databases (that weird CSA scholar add on...) it ate? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Scifinder but it's crap - Christina Pikas
Inspec, Compendex both do as does NTIS probably geobase - Christina Pikas
both inspec and compendex added all author affiliations like maybe 5 years ago so before that it was just first author affiliation - Christina Pikas
Theoretically, Google Scholar, if the affiliation is distinctive. - Elizabeth Brown
Thanks you guys, this is great! - Meg VMeg
LoisMarketing
FFeeps -- Do you eat breakfast? If so, what are your favorite breakfast foods?
My favourite things to eat in the morning are not breakfast foods. I'm not a big breakfast person. - Heleninstitches
I do, but usually not until late morning. I usually have toast with Vegemite. My favourite breakfast food is bacon but I'm scared that if I eat it every day I'll end up having a heart attack :o( - Melly
I usually eat a yogurt for breakfast. If not that, I'll have oatmeal or toast and eggs. - John (bird whisperer)
Fried egg over medium, bacon, cinnamon rolls. Coffee (surprise surprise). - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
I eat oatmeal or shredded wheat every morning, but I love poached eggs on thick sourdough toast with goat cheese and roasted red pepper. - Jenny H. from Android
Coffee and lately an egg sandwich. Did I mention coffee - WarLord
Oh, right, coffee. That goes without saying. :-D - John (bird whisperer)
Every day is oats in some form, either oatmeal or homemade granola, with almond milk and some fruit. (my favorite oat format is baked oatmeal with blueberries, lemon curd, and ginger, doused in almond milk) I'm a massive fan of egg white frittatas with red peppers, basil, and fresh mozz. Or a scramble of egg whites, zucchini, tomatoes, mushrooms, onions, peppers, and smoked gouda. And now I've gone and made myself extra hungry... - Hookuh Tinypants
Favorite Breakfast ==> Bagels and lox with cream cheese, onion and capers. Most days I eat cottage cheese and fruit. - Eric Logan
I try to, but it's really hard for me to eat first thing. I just don't have an appetite until later. Maybe yogurt, or a piece of fruit, but that's it. Now brunch, OTOH... - Derrick
A big cup of half coffee, half chocolate milk, and (this summer) a dish of ice cream, also half coffee and half chocolate. Eventually I'll get tired of the ice cream and do something else. If I can wean off a couple sleep meds, maybe I'll go back to just the big coffee. - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Almost always a large bowl of cereal and plenty of milk. Sometimes a smoothie too. Very occasionally scrambled eggs and toast or english muffin. Never coffee. - Brian Johns
Yes. Absolutely. Always. At home, either yogurt & a nutrition bar or (corn bread or bagel) & a nutrition bar, plus orange juice, coffee and, during stone fruit season, one or two pieces of fruit. On the road, a FULL breakfast. Always. I can't imagine skipping breakfast. [Weekends: Waffles & fruit Sat., omelet & fruit Sun.] - Walt Crawford
My favorite food is cereal but I can no longer imbibe. Soggy Life cereal was my comfort food. I now eat a low carb pancake every day. I change it up by putting peanut butter and s/f chocolate sauce on it. - Janet
I usually have fruit, protein, fat and coffee or tea. The usual is an apple, veggie sausage and a piece of cheese. I've found that if I have a decent amount of protein and fat, I stay full longer, wake up better, and don't trigger any heartburn. - Jennifer Dittrich
Coffee. - Georgia
My favorite food can depend on my mood. Sometimes it is just a cup of coffee, but a nice french toast plate or a great omelette are my favorites. - Eric - Back to the Grill
I wish I did, but I often don't. favorite weekday breakfast is coffee and pastry. favorite weekend breakfast is juice, coffee, 2 eggs overeasy with biscuit and sausage. - t-ra: WeirdnessSandwich
No breakfast for me (except coffee). Food in the morning makes me nauseas. - Kevin Johnson
Smoothies; oatmeal - Brent Schaus
I generally alternate between oatmeal topped with mixed frozen berries, apple, chopped walnuts and coconut oil and an egg white scramble, with onions, peppers and zucchini... often supplemented with hummus and pita bread. Plus very strong, black coffee. There has to be coffee! - Ken Morley
Cereal or a breakfast bar (both high-fiber cause I'm responsible) plus a half-half mix of yogurt and milk. Been adding some blueberries in there recently too. - Andrew C (✔)
What I eat for breakfast and what my favorite breakfast foods are are two different things. :-) - Betsy
Pancakes, waffles, oatmeal, peanut butter honey toast, eggs and toast - Joe Hardy from Android
In theory, this is my breakfast: http://engine2diet.com/recipe... Ahead of time, I make a bunch of single serving baggies that contain ingredients 1-6. In the morning, I grab a baggie and add walnuts, some sliced fruit (e.g., two or three strawberries), and 3/4 cup soy milk. Also drink a glass of soy milk. This all depends on (1) making the baggies ahead of time and (2) not getting up late. - Betsy
My favorite breakfast is leftover bbq pork egg foo yung. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
A few years ago I had a very brief burst of productivity and made six breakfast burritos for myself (ham, cheese, potatoes, salsa) and froze them for later. They were pretty good, but then I never did go back to doing that again. - Andrew C (✔)
Just woke up...had spaghetti. - April Russo
Thanks everyone! - LoisMarketing
Yes, flakes of some kind normally. I eat at work during on weekdays as it speeds up my time at home and also is too early to me for me. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
My latest favorite breakfast is a bowl of instant oatmeal with a spoonful of Nutella. I used to slice up a hard-boiled egg and have it on toast with a slice of cheese. - Elizabeth Brown
Mary Carmen
The only dates we could get for our birthing class were 10/26 & 27. Cutting it close to 11/20...maybe the baby will be late. On the positive side, less time for me to dwell on what may happen and freak out.
First babies tend to come at 41 weeks. Penny came a week early, so who knows, but that was the statistic I read. I think you'll be just fine! - Georgia
Thanks. The doc told us that they are usually late and that they won't let me go longer than 7 days post-due date. - Mary Carmen
have I told you the story of how our daughter was born on December 7th but we had no idea Carol was pregnant until 10/26? We did a one day birthing class. push her out shove her out way out! <clap> - A Gunny named Slickback
Yup, you told me. That is still nuts. - Mary Carmen
Oh my, that is crazy!!! - Georgia
Is your due date 11/20? She'll share her birthday with me (poor thing, Thanksgiving tends to run all over it some years) - Shannon - GlassMistress
That's what they are predicting. We shall see. - Mary Carmen
That's my niece's birthday. It's a good day. :) - Katy S from iPhone
Not to freak you out, but since the class usually focuses on standard delivery, I highly recommend educating yourself on c-sections as well. Things can happen and in the end the goal is healthy baby and healthy mama. =) - Yvonne from FFHound!
my son came exactly on his due date 6/27 - MAMA VAL#GOSCARLETTGO
Grab a video - knowledge is power. My son was 5 weeks early and it was a little crazy not knowing what to expect. - Jen
My class was 2 hr once a week for 4 weeks. It covered everything including c sections and inducing and natural birth and how a doula can help and recovery afterward - Christina Pikas from iPhone
I've been watching tons and tons of videos on all different types of births: c-section, natural with epidural, natural without any meds, water, etc. - Mary Carmen
We took the birthing class for our son 3 weeks before his due date and then he showed up 11 days late. And he was our second! Our first was exactly a week late and our youngest was 4 days early. I think you'll be fine :) - Elena
I think you are ready then! You got this :) - Jen
I loved, loved, loved our Birthing From Within classes. I think Jeff even enjoyed it - getting to meet other expectant first-time parents - and it is sooo not the kind of thing he would normally do, but he really got into it. http://www.birthingfromwithin.com/ - Laura Norvig
I think you'll have the class in time. Lots of early deliveries (pre-38 weeks) are C-sections. I think I was the oldest first time mother in my class (I was 34). - Elizabeth Brown
RepoRat
Per @grimmelm: "In a brief 5-page opinion, the 2nd Circuit just vacated the Google Books class certification and remanded for consideration of fair use."
Will post link when I see one. - RepoRat
tl;dr version: "Settle the fair-use question, THEN consider whether the class holds together." @grimmelm thinks this means that the appeals court believes Google will win the shit out of a fair-use assertion. In any case, everybody grumbling that Google wouldn't stand on fair use? Google's gonna stand on fair use, unless something weirder than I can imagine happens to prevent it. - RepoRat
Ah, interesting. Was the main reason the AG wanted to have a class was to cook up a settlement they would favor? It nearly worked. The other piece that fell out of this is orphaned works - the settlement would have monetized them, yes? Court said nope. - barbara fister
Well, the AG was gunning (among other things) for Hathi's complete dismemberment. If Google wins a fair-use assertion, Hathi is gold. I have trouble figuring out the AG's overall strategy and goals, though, because they keep doing weird unsavory sideshow shit (e.g. the "section 108 means no fair use!" thing, which, OMGWTFBBQ). So Imma sit back and wait for @grimmelm and/or Andrew Albanese to explain it all to me. - RepoRat
(My sense, tho, is that AG felt it needed class certification to be up to Google/Hathi's weight? And to get around the problem of fair use being a case-by-case basis thing?) - RepoRat
holy shit - DJF from Android
It would be SO NICE if Google actually wins on fair use... And if SAG (Some Authors' Guild, they sure as hell don't represent me or Cory Doctorow or...) lost bad, so much the better. - Walt Crawford
@grimmelm at slightly more length: http://laboratorium.net/archive... - RepoRat
Wow, that is on a tumblr... - Joe
Techdirt's take: https://www.techdirt.com/article... Good point about the AG potentially turning around and using the no-single-class argument against Google! That would be hilarious and also frustrating, which is the AG all over. - RepoRat
my take on the AG case was they asserted libraries could only rely on section 108 for copyright exemptions and 107 didn't apply. Which is nonsense, section 107 applies to everyone. - Elizabeth Brown
this was AG versus Hathitrust case - sorry for being clearer. This is one complicated set of cases! - Elizabeth Brown
Elizabeth: Well, you have to consider that AG is mostly fiction writers...in the world they dream of, there is no Section 107. - Walt Crawford
That's true Walt - forgot that point. But still, section 107 is pretty clear on to whom it applies... - Elizabeth Brown
Kevin Smith fills in the understanding gaps (mine, at least!): http://blogs.library.duke.edu/scholco... NOW I see why @grimmelm was saying this was a "fair use is go" signal. - RepoRat
laura x
When did you first hear of global warming/climate change?
1990...? Most likely because of Captain Planet. - Julian
Early '90s - Jed from iPhone
Sometime in the 90s, but I didn't really appreciate what was going on until later. - John (bird whisperer)
uh... it's been part of my mental furniture for so long I honestly have no idea? But the intro-to-meteorology class I took freshman year of undergrad is an odds-on bet; that would have been 1991. - RepoRat
I was chairperson for Earth Day at my school in 1971. :) - LoisMarketing
I learned about the greenhouse effect in a 4th grade science class, so 1985-86. - laura x
sometime in 1978. - Big Joe Silence
Probably in the 1980's and probably from tv (news programs? I thought school at first, but now I can't see how that would have happened), though in my mind, it was conflated with the hole in the ozone layer. I wish I had been taught more about atmospheric stuff as a kid, it's so fascinating. - Meg VMeg
no idea. like RepoRat states, it has always been there. - royce
You know what? Now I know. It wasn't undergrad; it was an oddball oceanography elective taught by an eccentric (in the best sense!) Ph.D who had done fieldwork via SCUBA all over hell's half acre. That was... 1985ish. Also introduced me to plate tectonics (tsunami!). - RepoRat
I don't recall there being a point where I didn't know about it. - Soup in a TARDIS
'80s. Environmental science class. It's actually possible I heard about it even in the '70s. I don't exactly remember. - Spidra Webster
When was the Rio summit? We had a big thing going in school before that.... We were going to save the rainforest, one leaf at a time! ETA Wikipedia says 1992. - Heleninstitches
I'm a lot like RR, except I think I knew about stuff like the ozone layer and the rainforest and acid rain and save the whales before I knew about actual global climate change. - Catherine Pellegrino
I learned about the greenhouse effect in the 80s before the term global warming came into common use. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
My experience is similar to Catherine's: while growing up I learned more about other environmental issues like CFCs and plastic pollution. - John (bird whisperer)
In the '80s there was a thing in the British education system called "combined science." It was an experiment in continuity, whereby a class had one science teacher for the two-year period leading to GCSE exams, and that teacher would teach all the sciences (with occasional switches to more specialised teachers in certain areas) in the same time previously allotted to any one of the... more... - Slippy: Potato Croquette from Android
In the mid-80s; Earth Day in elementary school was a major thing. - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
1989/1990 - took a meteorology class and recall lectures from at least faculty member on topic (anti-global warming, as I recall); I remember acid rain and river pollution were earlier (mid-1970's to 1980's) but don't remember global warming being specifically mentioned or discussed. It was more related to industrial pollution and dumping chemicals into the water supply. - Elizabeth Brown
1991-92 - I fell in with Earth Day celebrations in Windsor, ON. I think, because of the industry down that way, the green movement possessed a kind of specialized knowledge. - Brent Schaus
In the early 80s. Lots of greenpeace activists around, plus greenham common, the threat of nuclear war etc. made me very conscious. And watching so many wildlife programs where habitat threat was a big thing. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Early 90's. But, the concept of global warming being caused by humans has less of a time stamp. The first major paper to point this out came out in 1992. Edit to an open version, http://www.ecd.bnl.gov/steve... There were other earlier papers (such as this from 1990, http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...), but I think that the 1992 science paper is the research that got the bulk of the attention. - Joe
Don't remember. I was too busy worrying about the nuclear holocaust - maʀtha from Android
Global what now? - Steele Lawman
early 90's. - imabonehead
sometime in the 1990s - Björn Brembs
Elizabeth Brown
getting ready for #SLA2013 - I leave Saturday afternoon
We should get some of those carne asada fries at some point. - Meg VMeg
I haven't heard of those - they sound tasty! - Elizabeth Brown
yes yes yes yes - jambina
also went to an excellent sushi place last year in SD - not near the conference though - Elizabeth Brown
i am going to pokez for potato flautas. - kendrak
and if you can get to Extraordinary Desserts it's amazing: http://extraordinarydesserts.com/locatio... - Elizabeth Brown
How did I miss seeing you at SLA??!! - LibrarianOnTheLoose
i missed pretty much everybody. :( - kendrak
Sorry I wasn't able to arrange for an LSW meetup this year. - Joe
I missed a lot of people this year - not sure why, as the attendance was lower than in the past. - Elizabeth Brown
Steele Lawman
Is "Impact Factor" essential cultural knowledge for an academic librarian? I mean, I know it has to do with citations to work that appears in the journal, but when I read that Journal X "has an impact factor of 3.9," should I know what that means?
Articles published in the journal in 2010 and 2011 had been cited 3.9 times on average during 2012. There is also a 5 year impact factor, since many journals have articles that are not cited so quickly. - Joe
So the average citations per article in the preceding full year, for articles published in the two years prior to that year? - Steele Lawman
Yup. - Joe
Yeah, it's currency at mpow for faculty talking about tenure. It has been nice hearing conversations recently about how we need to move away from m it. - Hedgehog
Worth noting that citation patterns are highly discipline-dependent. (I mean, I know we all know this, but...) So if somebody comes up to me and says "the Journal of Irreproducible Results has a 3.9 impact factor, is that good?" my answer is "hell if I know; lemme hit up Thomson and look up the spread for the discipline." It does immediately tell me that JoIR has been around long enough to have its IF evaluated, which is sometimes useful info. - RepoRat
"the Journal of Irreproducible Results" *dies* - maʀtha
these days it seems like that's every journal in creation, but yeah, it's my standard journal analogue to example.com. Pretty sure I didn't invent it, either. - RepoRat
The discipline-dependence of IF became a big problem in Australia, when a nationwide research-evaluation exercise declared it was going to base itself on a single across-the-board IF scale. The humanities, whose journals tend to have WAY lower IFs than the sciences (hard, social, bio-, name it), squalled en masse. - RepoRat
Someone needs to come up with a humanities equivalent for monographs based on who is in the acknowledgments to what book. - laura x
RR did not invent The Journal of Irreproducible Results because I think I remember my parents having a bound collection of articles from said journal when I was a kid. cf: http://www.jir.com/ - Catherine Pellegrino
Interestingly enough,a while back I found people were looking not just for the IF itself but also the ranking by IF in their subject area for each journal. That makes more sense at least. The Australia system sounds a bit crazy, at the very least they should try metrics like SNIP or maybe eigenfactor/article influence that at least try to compensate for discipline differences if they going to compare like that. - aaron
There is very little about country-wide research-evaluation systems that is not crazy, honestly. - RepoRat
Yes, terrible awful no-good idea that is the antithesis of curiosity and intellectual freedom. UK does this too. Please stop. - barbara fister
So when someone says "The Journal of Profit Maximization" has an IF of 3.3, the sensible questions to ask are, "how does that compare to other journals in the field?" and "what is the trend over time for the JPM?" I mean besides "why did you think I'd care?" - Steele Lawman
Yes, those are exactly the questions to ask - DJF from Android
Yep, 'zackly. - RepoRat
I'm pretty sure that what it "means" depends about 20% on what impact factor other journals in the same discipline get, and 80% on the cosmic radiation that powers random number generators. Alas, it's important to NZ's national "Give us meaningless numbers about your research and we'll dollop out university funding accordingly" programme too. - Deborah Fitchett
Thomson is about as transparent with its algorithms as Google, so, yeah. - RepoRat
I would say yes, IF is important to understand as an academic librarian, and like others mentioned it's a measure of the journal as a whole, not the individual articles. Whenever I've seen this discussed on my campus, the faculty don't talk much about IF and use citations as a measure for impact for P&T cases, when they can be counted. That's actually one of the real limitations of... more... - Elizabeth Brown
"That's actually one of the real limitations of faculty performance data, that some fields rely heavily on citations and others do not." This confuses me. Someone is trying to find metrics to compare faculty quantitatively across disciplines? Why / how / what is this I don't even? - Steele Lawman
Well sure, if you can compare the disciplines, now you can decide who is succeeding and gets money. - Hedgehog
it's a bit more complex than that, as there is citation activity within a discipline and between disciplines. The trend in higher education is to look at activity/productivity within an academic department and also between departments on a campus, nationally, globally. The idea is that you can use this data to identify areas of higher potential growth. The problem is that not all... more... - Elizabeth Brown
laura x
I'm doing a list of Quick Reads for adult summer reading. Please name your favorite books that are either 1) UNDER 200 pages or 2) have VERY SHORT chapters. Fiction and nonfiction are fine.
Girl With a Pearl Earring may skate in just over 200 pages, but I recall blasting through it much faster than most novels when I read it. - Catherine Pellegrino
All my friends are superheroes by Andrew Kaufman; The chairs are where the people go by Sheila Heti; The Clock of the Long Now by Steward Brand are three that come to mind... - copystar
Well, this will spoil the surprise I had for you, because I'm mailing it as soon as I get my ass down to the post office (and I am going to imperiously and ineffectually demand you not read it until you get that copy), but I'm utterly in love with Maggie Nelson's Bluets (http://www.wavepoetry.com/collect...). It's 112 pages long and the chapters are paragraphs. (It's not *actually* poetry either, although it is sometimes poetry-like - it's fiction and/or memoir.) - Marianne
Blockade Billy, by Stephen King. - Julian
84, Charing Cross Road by Helene Hanff (it's less than 100) - Katy S
Animal Farm - Hedgehog
The Illustrated Man by Ray Bradbury (technically a collection of connected short stories, if that's okay). Also, I'd love to see your list when you're done. :) - Katy S
The Last Lecture by Randy Pausch - Kathy
Broetry by Brian McGackin - Katie
The Bride Stripped Bare by Nikki Gemmell (very short chapters) - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
Someone at Fiction-L has been collecting these, too, for a quick turn-around book club. http://www3.mgpl.org/maillis... - barbara fister
Ordinary Love and Good Will, Smiley - maʀtha
Annie John, Kincaid - maʀtha
I think most Jane Austen novels are a little over 200 pages, and I think they also have fairly short chapters. Pride & Prejudice comes in at about 256, and has 61 chapters. My other favorite Jane Austen novel is Persuasion. - Laura
ooh, a lot of kincaid is short. My Brother is my favorite (nonfiction) and it's 208 pp... it read very quickly. - Marianne
Second on 84 Charing Cross Road! I also adore Cold Comfort Farm by Stella Gibbons, which skates in at 234 pgs. Paletas by Fany Gerson, Finnish Lessons: What Can the World Learn from Educational Change in Finland? Classic short stories like the Yellow Wallpaper, ....I do not read many book under 200 pages. This is hard! - MontglaneChess
House on Mango Street, Cisneros - maʀtha
also a lot of Diana Athill is very short. Somewhere Towards the End is seriously wonderful (and again, 208 pages; what's with me and 208 page books?). - Marianne
I was surprised to see that The Martian Chronicles was as long as 250 pages. A college acquaintance of mine wrote a wonderful short book called Treasure Island!!! http://www.amazon.com/Treasur... - Steele Lawman
Room with a View, Forster - maʀtha
Could alo include some flash fiction collections - maʀtha
Various Steinbeck - maʀtha
To the lighthouse, Woolf - maʀtha
Night - maʀtha
Is the goal to come up with books that are fun and not intimidating? - Steele Lawman
I just read Tale of the Unknown Island by Saramago on Sunday, VERY short - maʀtha
In honor of DJF, Three Men in a Boat - maʀtha
P. G. Wodehouse - maʀtha
Teaching a stone to Talk, Dillard - maʀtha
Stewart O'Nan's The Odds (179 pp). Iain Pears' The Portrait (224 pp but it's effectively double-spaced). - Marianne
All The Days & Nights - William Maxwell; Kindred - Octavia Butler; The Writing Life - Annie Dillard; On Chesil Beach - Ian McEwan - MoTO: Tufted Coqeutte
The Reluctant Fundamentalist by Mohsin Hamed - Heleninstitches
Carlos Ruiz Zafon's shorter books - Heleninstitches
Paul Torday's might come in under 200 pages. Always intriguing... tho perhaps a bit British! - Heleninstitches
Cowboys Are My Weakness by Pam Houston, just under 200p, flies by - Julie Kane
@Steele: Yeah, I've refrained from listing a bunch of titles because they might be less accessible: The Bluest Eye, Henry James short novels, Faith & the Good Thing, and the book I'm reading now, Beasts of No Nation (Iweala), which is definitely not light summer reading and is stunningly good. - maʀtha
On Bullshit, Frankfurt. Less than 100 pages, but written by a real philosopher. - Steele Lawman
The Little Prince. - Deborah Fitchett
Where'd you go, Bernadette? - Elizabeth Brown
Any of Tove Jansson's non-Moomin stuff. Novels are short, others are short story collections. - Pete
Just read Buddha in the Attic. Not my favourite per se, but it's very good, quick, and unusual. - Megan loves summer
Thank you all! The goal is to have a variety of short books and/or quick to read books. Some will be fun and some will be more intimidating, but I figure an intimidating 180 page book is much less intimidating than, say, an intimidating 680 page book. - laura x
we would like to see the finished list, please :) - maʀtha
Mary Carmen
Why must ALL THE CATS want to lay on me while I feel so sick.
Anne and I were talking about this this morning -- while I was sick, the cats all spent four days launching themselves onto and off of my belly and my goodies at high speed. - Jason P
Sometimes, I think they're trying to comfort me. Other times, I think they just want to steal my heat while I can't move. - Jennifer Dittrich
When I was pregnant all the pets wouldn't leave me alone. I think it's the change in body smell/ phermones. - Elizabeth Brown
Yes that. And it hurts. In a few months they won't be able to sit on my belly. - Mary Carmen from iPhone
I wouldn't count on that, Mary. My parents' cat (who was staying with us while my wife was pregnant - the cat was staying with us, that is, not my parents) used to climb up on my wife's pregnant belly so much that we swore the kidlet was going to have paw prints on her forehead when she was born. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
RepoRat
EBSCO and Ex Libris slapfight. Pass the popcorn. http://t.co/wdZFuT5Gfb
Like Terrell Owens, I have my popcorn ready. - Julian
*munch munch munch* (We're in the middle of this: we're an Ex Libris shop, looking to activate Primo Central soon, and the bulk of our database content comes from EBSCO.) - Catherine Pellegrino
Highly entertaining. But, evidence of exactly why we need to remember and act like we are in the midst of a bunch of business deals, not altruistic nonprofits (even if that is our role - which may also be debatable). - Lisa Hinchliffe
Yes. One of the things I like best about this is Orbis Cascade Alliance's tone. - Catherine Pellegrino
Now entering The Octagon... - Marie
What language is that signature from Matti in? - Joe
Hebrew. Ex Libris is based out of Israel. - Catherine Pellegrino
I'm not allowed to talk about why we didn't implement Primo at MfPOW a few years back. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Stephanie, did you sign a non-disclosure document about it? - copystar
The Orbis Cascade Board of Directors are my new favorite people. - Jenica
Now that makes sense (concerning the sig.) - Joe
this rocks. - jambina
In related news, does anyone know if ebrary content is indexed by EDS? - Meg VMeg
not any more. (I don't know) - DJF
Could someone explain this to me like I'm five, please? - Andy
EBSCO owns content. Ex Libris would like to include that content in its Primo discovery layer, so that users at libraries who subscribe to the EBSCO products can find it using the library's single search box. EBSCO says, "No. If you want to access the EBSCO metadata, you need to subscribe to OUR discovery layer." - DJF
Ebsco, like Proquest, is in the position of providing both content and a discovery tool. They are taking the lead in ensuring that their content is best/only accessed via THEIR discovery tool. As a result, Ex Libris's discovery tool can't effectively access EBSCO content. And all commercial entities in the game are failing to play nicely with each other. - Jenica
(Two of us assessed it about the same at the same time, so you know we must be right. AND AWESOME.) - Jenica
I support Orbis Cascade's position that if EBSCO and Ex Libris won't play together, then neither of them gets any money. Of course, in this particular case, that's not really fair to Ex Libris, who has no control over what EBSCO lets them see. - DJF
I'm in love with the fact that a library organization is standing up and, in public, plainly asserting its right as a paying customer to demand better of the industry. Fuck. Yes. - Jenica
Gotcha. Thanks! - Andy
Also: discovery layers are serious business. - Andy
I think EBSCO's fucking this up. They need to build a wall between the discovery business and the content business, and fast. Because if the content business is not indexed in a neutral way, then people using Primo or Summon will not find the EBSCO content. If people don't find the content, it doesn't get used. And that's how databases get cancelled. - DJF
O_o - Hedgehog
The timing of this memo is odd as we learned a few weeks ago that EBSCO has agreed to re-do the API. I'm more upset with ProQuest They won't even offer us an API to use with Primo. - Jen
One comment I've heard regarding this situation is that their library holdings are only a small part of EBSCO's portfolio. Of course you would think Proquest, who has a higher percentage of library content, would care more. - Elizabeth Brown
It's a good thing I wasn't eating popcorn when I got to "and use sub-standard API" at the bottom of page 2, or it'd be all over my keyboard now. It's like when you're trying *really really hard* to be the unbiased voice of reason in a debate but then a "plus your product sucks!" just slips out there. - Deborah Fitchett
It would have been handy to have all of pop into view last month when we had Serials Solutions, EBSCO, and ExLibris deliver back to back one-hour discovery layer pitches to our consortium. It was my first full-on vendor experience post MLIS and I was alternately amused and appalled by the EBSCO hard core FUD. - Heather
Heather, FUD is EBSCO's primary product line. We've all seen that in action. - DJF
I used to work in a comms unit that supported sales guys and anytime the FUD was rolled out it was a clear sign of a product line in trouble and/or sales reps that didn't understand or respect their audience. Sales rep tactics appear to be a transferrable skill. - Heather
"there is an inherent conflict of interest when content providers attempt to control a library’s choice of discovery." But since their interest is to make money, as much as possible, and control as many markets as they can, where's the conflict? I'm glad there's pushback, but why would we NOT expect a company to vertically integrate and resist sharing? In some ways its more a conflict of public interest for libraries to rely on these bozos. - barbara fister
You nailed it, Secret Agent Fister, when are libraries going to wake up and realize they do not need to buy in to feeding the pigs? (codicil: when are the damn faculty going to stop giving their work away to the pigs) - Aaron the Librarian from Android
Must say I first read Ebsco's response and it was a very good attempt to cloud Pmatters, I was almost convinced..., shows how much I know about discovery :P Anyway I never quite got why it's always about ebscohost , Proquest does the same. Or is it because their databases have metadata that can be obtained in other ways? - aaron
Yes, Barbara, yes. If you're a librarian, Ebsco's position looks ethically sketchy. If you're a business analyst, they appear to have a sound strategy. Ex Libris's positioning of themselves as The Good Guys Fighting The Good Fight for libraries pisses me off, because i don't believe for a second that, if they "win" and Ebsco opens up their data, Ex Libris won't turn around and try to... more... - Jenica
Aaron, what is the link to the EBSCO response? - Joe
how did ProQuest / Serials Solutions / Summon get around this? - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
They go to the journal publishers and get the metadata. It's not 100% of say CINAHL, but maybe 90%+ but of course it's very "thin metadata" (ebsco's term), sometimes not even abstract or subject headings and usually no full text. It can make quite a difference sometimes. - aaron
Thanks Jackyn. - Joe
A message went around at my Primo-using library this morning saying that use of our EBSCO full text resources have declined 64% and use of their indexes 73%. I think we'll be looking for this content elsewhere... - Megan loves summer
phew. well, I can't say I'm sorry to see this chickenshit tactic backfire. - RepoRat
I like most of my EBSCO contacts, but the guy they had delivering the FUD sales pitch when we looked at EDS last year really turned me off. - Holly's favorite Anna
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