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Rest in peace, Amber: 1993-2009. My baby didn't make it. Love you and miss you so much.
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Myrna, Amber, Random Time Lord, SAM and 34 other people liked this
I'm so sorry! Losing a pet is one of the worst hurts. Sending you warm thoughts. Im sorry.
- Mary Carmen
I am so sorry :o( xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
- Mellissa Claus
:(
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
I'm sorry for your loss. :(
- TVTechGrl
:(
- Wirehead
I'm so sorry, rowlikeagirl. I know this is so hard. Amber was a beauty. xo
- Ayşe E.
=( I'm so sorry to hear it... She looked like a very well loved cat.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
:( What a loss for you; I'm so sorry.
- Anne Bouey
Thanks for the warm thoughts, everyone. I found out she passed away at the vet's office early this morning. I knew she was close to the end, but I was hoping she'd at least be able to come home and pass away comfortably there. ;( I've been sobbing on and off all morning. She was a spoiled little diva, and I know she lived better than most people. It's just the thought of life without her that is the hardest part right now.
- rowlikeagirl
I'm so sorry. I really am. I know how it feels. :( She really was a beautiful cat.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
She was fortunate to have had a friend in you. I'm sorry.
- Christopher Harley
I'm so sorry! I know how it feels - I few years ago my siamese cat died just short of 19 yrs old and it was really hard to deal with. Take care!
- Katy S
:(
- VAL D. Zone
:(
- Roberto Bonini
:( r.i.p.
- Anna Lynn M.
We lost one of ours in March, much love to you and yours.
- Scott
:( I'm so sorry too!
- Carla
So sorry about your loss :(
- Alex Scoble
So sorry for your loss. Treasure the memories. When you're ready, there are more homeless kitties who want to share your love.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
I'm so sorry for your loss. She looks like she was a special kitty.
- Derrick
So sorry, such a beautiful cat she was. We had one that looked just like her when I grew up..
- Rasmus Lauridsen
So sorry :(
- Shannon Jiménez
I'm so sorry. :-(
- Ladybug Heather
Oh no! I'm so sorry about this. Sending you peaceful, loving thoughts and purrs and nosekisses from my furkids.
- vicster is...
Sorry for your loss!
- Lo
I know how hard it is to lose a pet. When I go to the house to see my daughter, I still look for my Griffey's big furry ears and excited eyes watching out from the corner of the window overlooking the driveway. He still visits me in my dreams, and we go for long walks in the woods. They leave us with good memories to help us through the loss.
- Mark "DerBingle" J
:-( I'm sorry.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Sorry for your loss. Our pets are like our children. We've been brokenhearted every time we've lost one.
- Greg Guitarbuster
I'm so sorry! {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
I'm sorry; she was a beautiful cat
- RAPatton
from iPhone
Aww. :( That's so hard. I'm sorry. :(
- Alix Whitmire
So sorry for your loss :( RIP
- Penny
I'm so sorry :(
- Mona Nomura
bad cat sherafettin :)
- Arapprensi
oh so sorry.
- anna sauce
R.I.P. / i am so sorry <3
- anjelina
Oh, I'm so so so sorry!!!! This is horrible! *hugs*
- Rachel Lea Fox
im so sorry to hear of your loss, may he RIP! i have 2 cats myself, this is my worst fear, my cats are very close to me!
- Halil
:( sorry
- Darren Heydon
That is so, so hard to go through. I'm sorry.
- Shannon
:(
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from iPhone
I'm sorry for your loss. Losing a pet is terribly hard.
- Jim: Dead Like FF
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- ★ Soner Gönül
This makes me very sad. I'm sorry for your loss. I know my wife will be absolutely inconsolable whenever ours chooses to leave us.
- Curtiss Grymala
:( Big hugs to you. I'm so sorry.
- Laura wishes you peace.
:( So Sorry,,, they give us so much, and it's so hard when they go....
- Bash
:(
- winckel
*sad*
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Thank you again for the kind words, everyone. They mean so much. I know she had a great life. She gave me such joy. I cannot express it in words. If you have a pet, please hug him/her for me. XXOXOXOXOOXOXO
- rowlikeagirl
She was teh beautiful cat, I'm sorry Audrea. I know no other pet will replace her. {hugs}
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Cambridge professor David Mackay on building renewables on a large scale | Environment | guardian.co.uk - http://www.guardian.co.uk/environ...
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The discussion about energy options tends to be an intensely emotional, polarised, mistrustful, and destructive one. Every option is strongly opposed: the public seem to be anti-wind, anti-coal, anti-waste-to-energy, anti-tidal-barrages, anti-carbon-tax, and anti-nuclear. We can't be anti-everything – we need an energy plan that adds up. But there's a lack of numeracy in the public discussion of energy. Where people do use numbers, they select them to sound big and score points in arguments, rather than to aid thoughtful discussion. I would like to help people have honest and constructive conversations about energy. We need to understand how much energy our modern lifestyles use, decide how much energy we would like to use in the future and choose where we will get that energy from.
- Meryn Stol
Demode to Demode's feed, Photographers sharing links, photographs,and tips!, Fine Art Photography, Photographing, PhotoThing, Photography as Art, The Photogenics, Fotograf
Michael Kenna - http://www.michaelkenna.net/
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zephyrlily, Hande Ünver, Ferzvladimir and 9 other people liked this
Michael Kenna, birçoğumuz henüz uykudayken, peşine düşüp yakaladığı karelerdeki gerçeküstü etkiler sayesinde, izleyene huzur ve dinginlik veren eserlerini çok sade kadrajlardan yana kullanarak, hikayeyi izleyenin tamamlamasına olanak veriyor..Manzara fotoğraflarında sade kadraj seçimi ile `insana huzur ve dinginlik veren` ifadesi yakıştırılan Kenna, kimi zamanlarda manzaranın yansıtılmasında oynadığı ışık ve koyu renkleriyle de fotoğrafta `gerçeküstücü` olarak tanımlanıyor.
- Demode
(Blog post) "From advocacy to authority – how to create an open source #documentary to help your cause" http://sm4good.com/2009...
Michael R. Bernstein and E-Advocate Network liked this
Book review: “Yes We Did – Obama’s social media strategy" - http://sm4good.com/2009...
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Thank you for this link!
- E-Advocate Network
Source told me Google Chrome announcement later today will have two releases: Chromium (open source version) and Chrome OS (locked down).
Susan Beebe, J. Abdul-Qahhar and E-Advocate Network liked this
Will "web 2.0" help advocacy groups hold officials accountable? Case study of unprecedented live, online Q&A btw Sudan advocacy groups and the White House: http://rootwork.org/blog...
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- GREEN GRASS OFFICIAL VIDEO - CIBELLE - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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مـــــــــمد, E-Advocate Network, کیان پردیس and 3 other people liked this
parfait
- IΞhsan
عالی عالی عالی
- Shandiz
خودم که لاو
- Soudeh
این لایک مجدد داره
- IΞhsan
این ورسیون رو ببین که این دو تا دختر همشهری ات چه کرده اند! یعنی اگه من پاریس بودم حتما سعی می کردم تو برنامه هایی که اجرا می کنند شرکت کنم. ولی حیف...http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- abldali
خوب پا شو برای برنامه هاشون بیا شهرمون
- Soudeh
آخه اینها حرفه ای که نیستند برنامه شون از شش ماه قبل مشخص باشه. یه روز مثلا پا می شن می رن تو یه کافه ای می خونند. یه بار می رن دم sacré cœur ساز می زنند.
- abldali
It's much easier to honestly criticize than it is to honestly compliment.
J. Abdul-Qahhar, Alex Scoble, Clare Dibble and 2 other people liked this
But the latter will get you farther.
- Cristo
I would like to honestly compliment you on this post.
- Louis Gray
That's because there's usually far, far, far more to criticise than compliment.
- Mark H
How beautiful. I wonder if admiration and awe are more complicated feelings to express, or we just do not learn how to express them as well.
- E-Advocate Network
Criticisms are more economically productive while compliments are more socially productive.
- Mitch
MySpace Causes shuts down, abandoning 184,674 nonprofits supporters. Is it time to demand some openness? http://rootwork.org/blog...
Michael R. Bernstein, Eric Johnson and E-Advocate Network liked this
Its time to for 3rd party apps in the nptech "business" to focus their usability and functionality on creating strong relationships between supporters and nonprofits. Social change happens outside the application - in the real world. Apps should be connectors - the abondonment would not have been relevent if this was already a goal. Causes tech philosophy is inverted, despite good intentions.
- E-Advocate Network
It's time to pull the plug on MySpace
- Call me Bronco
I think that conclusion is based on stereotype Sarah- MySpace leads by 14% in family density. Parents using social media is rare majority and find on social media. LinkedIn had 20% with children in the home. It would be a huge loss to nonprofits that focus on families.
- E-Advocate Network
If you think TechCruch's synopsis of MySpace catering to "people of color," it is wrong. It only leads in hispanic women making up to $100,000.000 per year. This demographic migrates to Facebook after 50 years old.
- E-Advocate Network
Where it falls behid is graduate degrees, yet it stronly leads in female majority. I think what we are seeing is women choosing motherhood over graduate school. It also had the same percentage of middle class users, yet falls behind by 8% total in the higher upper classes.
- E-Advocate Network
sorry, it was an off-the-cuff remark. I know MySpace still has users, I just can't stand the site personally.
- Call me Bronco
That is your taste, strongly not others. Out of all social sites (especially Twitter) MySpace has the smallest level of passer by users, the largest percentage of dedicated users and "addicts" It is a dedicated, vibrant community for those who use it.
- E-Advocate Network
This is a Causes design failure because it is not working on a social change paradigm - it is working on an internal, gated app paradigm
- E-Advocate Network
Ivan!! Have you been to MySpace Impact or A Place for Impact. There is an entire suite of tools that does what you state MySpace users are now without. Does anyone writing about this have a relationship with, know the demographics of, or use MySpace Impacts tools?
- E-Advocate Network
19 Creative Ways To Decrease Your CarbonFootprint Online - http://www.webhostingsearch.com/article...
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Panorama shot I just created from U2 concert. Thx to Autostitch - http://krynsky.posterous.com/panoram...
polou/indigo_bow, Iván Abrego, E-Advocate Network and 6 other people liked this
One thing I like about Mark Zuckerberg: he is willing to piss off his users once a year to take Facebook forward.I
Amadou M. Sall, DC Crowley, ax0n and 19 other people liked this
When you see the mistakes Friendster, MySpace, Friends Reunited (UK) made that led to their irrelevance, it makes sense to keep pushing the art forward. I believe Facebook realise that and thus keep taking the best aspects of Twitter/FF etc. However they still need to retain their innovative edge, which I believe they have kind of lost over the past year.
- Jamie
Golden rule in software: you can't satisfy all your customers all of the time. So, in order to improve there is no way around pissing users off.
- Rene Wirtz
I need some upbeat, but not too distracting, music for an intense tagging project. I'm adding tags to hundreds of items. Head in danger of exploding.
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Earth, Wind & Fire
- Mary Carmen
Mozart?
- Katy S
ooh, excellent suggestion, Mary. that will take me back to High School right quick, but I'll try to supress that aspect of it!
- Laura Norvig
Katy, I was doing classical this morning as I first tackled the project and was considering things in detail. Now I'm burnt and need to power through it. Sadly, it is going slower than I had hoped. I keep stopping to rewrite abstracts. Cuz I'm picky like that.
- Laura Norvig
so metal is out then? ;) I had to ask
- metalerik
Sometimes I listen to Gershwin piano music when I'm typing b/c it's upbeat and keeps my fingers moving at a quick pace. I'm probably weird in that anything with words distracts me from my work. I want to sing along, instead.
- Katy S
So is Earth Wind & Fire going to be in R&B/Soul or R&B/Funk on Pandora? I can never find a Pandora category that makes sense. There's no bluegrass on there, for instance.
- Laura Norvig
You need some deathcore or thrash metal. Maybe a little screamo.
- Itachi
laura, oddly enough, after metal, bluegrass is my next favorite kind of music. I'm totally not kidding. try this for bluegrass on last.fm: http://www.last.fm/listen...
- metalerik
That's not odd. They both follow what I call the piddly-piddly form of guitar (as opposed to ranch-a-danch). In other words, many notes per measure in order to showcase insane stringed instrument virtuosity.
- Laura Norvig
omg, you get it! you just made my day :D
- metalerik
you know, I've been looking at your username for months and not knowing how to parse it. It just hit me that it's metal-Erik. Duh!
- Laura Norvig
haha. it's like license plates sometimes, right? btw, Lester Flatt & Earl Scruggs are shredding over at that link on last.fm
- metalerik
Have you created a station on Pandora? I have enjoyed their alien sounding "genome" music project- i.e. intuitive.
- E-Advocate Network
No, I haven't created a station of my own - I just pop on and listen to the main stations. They tend to repeat music a lot - limited playlists.
- Laura Norvig
Great presentation on mapping tools to strengthen and inform communities. Be sure to click on the Somerville link for an example of hand drawn maps that really make community connections. http://bit.ly/o09ci
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Sorry, I corrected the link.
- Christine Dattilo
Eureka! Thank you so much for this Chrisitne. I am in a usability course and we are covering mapping. One area I have not been able to find is hand drawn perspectives. Thank you.
- E-Advocate Network
This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch - http://gizmodo.com/5374890...
Wulffy, Nicholas James, David Berrebi and 127 other people liked this
"PhotoSketch is an internet-based program that can take the rough, labeled sketch on the left and automagically turn it into the naff montage on the right."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Wow, that is awesome. The authors list cracked me up: "Tao Chen, Ming-Ming Cheng, Ping Tan, Ariel Shamir, and Shi-Min Hu". One of these things is not like the others.
- Jim Norris
What is the definition of naff here? Here in the UK it effectively means stupid/silly/rubbish.
- Travis Koger
Yes, I can see it from the pixels.. :)
- Jemm
Wow, co-developed at NUS! although they've managed to mis-spell Singapore
- arunthampi
That's mind-bogglingly cool...
- Andrew Terry
Unb-freaking-livable!!
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
their site is down already...
- Maхx Tee
pretty neat but when i downloaded some higher resolution examples in their pdf, they didnt look quite as good
- bob
it's not so much about the resolution as it is about the intelligence of the system. Pretty cool!
- Vincent van Wylick
That seems so unreal! OnLive looks more real then this! Its blowing my mind
- Devin
Was just reading about this in a spanish photography blog. Amazing program.
- Juan Pablo González
Wow. That is so cool!
- Zachary TG
Similar to some cmu research http://graphics.cs.cmu.edu/project...
- Ryan Moulton
Does this even work? I think it might be a farce.
- Harsh SIngh
My FAV band, I love this song Good morning all! @DamienCripps Band Australia "Pictures" ♫ http://blip.fm/profile...
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Did you know DamienCripps was an Austrailia Indie Band? @libbytalks @libbyspins does :-)
- RetiredTeacherD
@DamienCripps Band is coming to the US in 2010. They are a great Indie Band from Perth, Australia and I love their music!
- Libby Baker Sweiger
from email
The Secret Behind The Real-Time Web - YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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(1)Bebekvegebelik, Mike Chelen, Daniel Chow and 243 other people liked this
Ross and Dan made this video to illustrate the advanced technology we use behind the scenes at FriendFeed. (Ross and Dan, you are amazing - I can't believe how awesome this thing turned out)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
How very creative. This is very fluid and cool.
- Louis Gray
OK, not exactly what I was expecting, but very cool.
- Kevin Arth
Anyone have the video somewhere other than Youtube? it's banned here in Turkey and I can't wait until we get home (next month) to watch it!!
- Chris Myles
Bret, this video should be titled: A Love Song for FriendFeed ! Great vid (and music) !
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
This is awesome!
- Christopher Chung
with a community like this - you just can't roll-it into f.b.. keep the dream alive!
- michael sean wright
:O
- Josh Haley
Amazing, thanks for that!
- dkb
According to Ross, they used about 1030 individual pictures in the final version. Stop motion is a lot of work :)
- Bret Taylor
Sure, sure--give away all the secrets. (Are those Lego dudes union?)
- Kathy Fitch
very creative. wonder how long it took to do that stop-action?
- berchman
Ross's best work so far ! great job Ross
- goutham
Major props to Ross and Dan. FriendFeed lives on
- Shane
That's priceless. Great job, guys.
- John Craft
This is superb. I just showed it to my 5 year old son who enjoys Lego and has already taken some great photos, including one or two of his toys. So now he has the seed of the idea that, in time, he could take multiple stills and put them together to make moving pictures. Thank you very much for posting it and giving me and him that opportunity. Maybe, he might use FriendFeed one day too!
- John W Lewis
Great project!
- Anne Bouey
AWESOME!
- Kevin Fox
I think they need to make a full stop-motion version of the Matrix in legos. Now THAT would be awesome. I wonder what bullet-time looks like in LEGO?
- Bret Taylor
i'd pay to see the stop animation lego matrix, but not the sequels
- patrick
"Equipment Generously Provided By Casey Muller" - hahaha!! THIS IS AWESOMESAUCE!!! I love the creative energy and vibe in this video... LOTS of work went into that one! Thanks guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Genius, how much time did that all take?
- Wayne Hornsey
Chris Myles: if you want ot - DM me an address and I'll mail you a copy.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
That is so awesome
- Glenn Slaven
happy-making!
- Felicia Yue
I am more proud than ever for being a FriendFeeder :)
- Arvind
Wow!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
Excellent!!
- Kol Tregaskes
That's great!
- Devon Govett
Cool! The friendfeed's manufactury
- Benedetto Vacca
неплохо, неплохо! Продолжение будет?
- atner
Lots of handshaking I see :)
- Nicholas Kreidberg
hahaha very nice stop motion and music!
- Alex Huinchucleffy
BUMP
- Roberto Bonini
FULL OF WIN
- Jac Falcon
I think the Google Chrome browser logo is a rip off copy of the 1970's "Simon" electronic game. What do you think?
Marcos, Ben Chatelain, Arijit Das and 87 other people liked this
its pretty close.
- Alfredo
You should send this totallylookslike.com
- Mike Nayyar
guitar hero is a heavy rip off of simon says too, pretty inspirational game
- Yunus Tunak
Mike - I might just do that!
- Susan Beebe
The device name is not "Simon Says"...just Simon. "Simon Says" was on of the modes of play on Simon. </ComicBookGuy>
- Josh Haley
Yep.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
That's why it looked familiar
- M F
(in germany it was called "senso", and the colours were even more like the chrome logo.)
- esther ♥ ♫
@Josh Haley - Thanks! I just corrected it... much appreciated
- Susan Beebe
i remember that game. god, how i hated it.
- Nathan Rein
in the other news ... http://www.youtube.com/watch... ;)
- A.T.
and little more chrome 80s styled http://www.youtube.com/watch... :)
- A.T.
I bet kids today have never seen the "Simon" electronic toy... makes me feel old!
- Susan Beebe
I saw my name mentioned a few times, things ok over here?
- Simon Wicks
Pft, it's obviously a pokeball
- Daniel Bruce
I loved that game!
- JA Castillo
hahaha!
- Susan Beebe
omg, totally!!
- Sarah Perez
I knew it reminded me of something!
- Mary DeSive
since you put it that way, yeah ;)
- Doug Schumacher
Lots of folks saying the Google Chrome logo "makes them want to play Simon" - LOL
- Susan Beebe
to me it looks like how a non-computer-using artist type would design a trackball -- either that or they are trying to get a HAL vibe without creeping everyone out
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Uh-oh, Google, you've been caught with your hand in the electronics bin!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I got my son a travel version of Simon, so there's at least one kid who's seen it. (He needs hand-eye coordination practice.) This does seem very, very similar.
- Kisha, Well Conditioned
from BuddyFeed
I get the Simon apps for my phones. WinMo and iPhone.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I can see where you may have a point there susan :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Not sure why I didn't mention that I still have my old Simon.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
exactly! awesome idea :) congrats!
- `aziz´ Alihan ÇETİN
:) @Doğuş lol This is more than same :D
- `aziz´ Alihan ÇETİN
You know what i really want on friendfeed? A way to just see upcoming discussions so I can get involved. There's "best of day" that only shows you discussions that have already got popular and been discussed...but nothing that tells me, over the last hour, where/what discussions are getting heated.
Kol Tregaskes, E-Advocate Network, Mike Chelen and 10 other people liked this
not much chance of this being incorporated though...Oh and search isnt good enough, you can't specify dates/times
- Zee.
Ideally, your main feed should work well enough for that. the topics getting more discussion keep jumping to the top.
- Kevin Fox
that's true Kevin, but its not only my feed i want to have discussions within...I'd love to see where else on Friendfeed people are talking
- Zee.
Only if this works. http://friendfeed.com/search... It gives out a service unavailable. :(((
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Sorry AJ, search was down for a bit. Should be fixed now :)
- Private Sanjeev
Yes, something like thread "velocity" would be nice. A metric like comments/minute or something.
- Meryn Stol
hear hear!
- Vincent van Wylick
Discovered http://activitystrea.ms/ via @jesse today. Fascinating new microformat that we might be able to use for our stuff.
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I saw this a while ago. Too detailed and looks like an "extrapolation" of different current (and commercial) services.
- directeur
Both Facebook and Myspace are using this in production now
- Jesse Stay
while the initial work was done by a rather closed set of devs - the latest work is all public and the core of the protocol seems very clean
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
directeur, it's only a layer on top of Atom - to standardize the stream you need to get more detailed.
- Jesse Stay
Yes, it's like an effort to unite current services. Yes, Jesse, it's an extension, I know
- directeur
Yeah, what bear said - it's all managed by a third party group (although Dave Recordon's now with Facebook)
- Jesse Stay
directeur - @jesse mentioned this elsewhere, but it's probably the easiest way to get the big guns into any new technology. I think it's pretty useful to standardize some of the aspects of those 3rd party, proprietary services, even though the concepts these formats represent are pretty abstract.
- Matt Mastracci
Matt, I understand, but IMHO that'd be nice if we "abstract" some notions. I see "article" and "blog entry". I see "photo albums" (why just for photos?)... See what I mean?
- directeur
As an aside, are you guys all subscribed to http://friendfeed.com/feedtech ?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken - I just did, thanks for the pointer
- Matt Mastracci
I am now :-)
- Jesse Stay
What I mean simply is this: Rather than trying to please the "big guns". Make a robust, clean, abstracted standard and force them to obey. By trying to please evryone, you won't please anyone. I might be wrong, but that's how I feel this :)
- directeur
directeur a standard will never make it into the mainstream if you approach it that way
- Jesse Stay
directeur, that would be ideal of course, but it's hard^H^H^H^Himpossible to work that way with companies. Once you've got a spec in place that pleases everyone enough, you can work on it to improve it. It's the standards politics game.
- Matt Mastracci
Jesse, so how did RSS and Atom? How did HTML? There are standards like APML that did it.
- directeur
RSS and HTML were defacto standards that were later specified. Atom and RSS 2.0 came about as a way to clean up the mess that was RSS 0.9x (after the huge RSS flamewars of the early 00's :)). I would personally love it if we could specify this stuff up front and get a clean spec, but NIH is a powerful force against you.
- Matt Mastracci
RSS didn't become big until the major news sites began implementing it. I don't know much about the history of Atom.
- Jesse Stay
Matt, I understand. I really do. But imho the industry should be more "humble". People don't dare anything new nowadays because they're all worried about how to please companies that gather bazzillions of people. Creative ideas sure need constraints, but not "fear". Again, that's only how I feel these kind of stuff :)
- directeur
ActivityStrea.ms wasn't originated by Facebook or MySpace in any way that I know of. It was a group of various people from various organizations that all came together to define a spec. Once it was developed then Facebook hopped on board.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I'm not talking about its integration, I'm talking about the design of it. About ActivityStrea.ms btw, is there any independant edu. org? any university for eg. Like it's the case with the W3C? I don't think so...
- directeur
The design of activitystrea.ms was not done by Facebook or MySpace or anyone that is currently integrating it that I know of. It was designed by an independent group of people from various organizations as well as individuals to design. Not sure I'm understanding your point.
- Jesse Stay
@jesse - interesting!
- Matt Mastracci
FWIW, live blogging coverage of the last Activitystrea.ms meetup http://therealmccrea.com/2009... [bah... that's not the most recent meetup... but probably typical of the participation, from what I can tell... most recent is here http://therealmccrea.com/2009... ]
- Ken Sheppardson
Jesse I know look at the bottom of the specs. ("Authors' Addresses") Not a single university/institute member there (I don't mean that these folks don't know what they're doing!!) I mean that it'd be nice if an "independant" person or two were there too. Let's say I'm from yahoo, I'd call some friends from IBM, Novell.. and we will create our ActivityFlow standard.
- directeur
I've always been very annoyed that the ActivityStream & OpenSocial extensions haven't merged. Back in March I tried to push for that a bit (http://groups.google.com/group...), but never had time to follow it up, The last I heard about it was http://groups.google.com/group...
- Nick Lothian
What I'd like to see is a real consortium where I can see people from the MIT, the Keio University and INRIA, Linux, Google, Msft... for eg. Without this, I'm almost sure that in the near future we'll see dozens of standards like these originated by other companies (because they weren't part in this standard) and Bonjour! the hard work for developpers!
- directeur
@directeur - I don't think that matters. There are already 1000's or extensions for RSS/Atom - the important thing is which ones have adoption. In _most_ cases people are happy to adopt an existing one, unless there are specific reasons why it doesn't suite them. A good example of this is mediaRSS - created by Yahoo, but very widely adopted now. Others include geoRSS and OpenSearch
- Nick Lothian
Tonight is the beginning of the end of the "geeks-only" phase of FriendFeed. Now that Guy Kawasaki is here the marketers will start showing up.
Akash Sharma, Ozer Wrzl (EN), Martynas and 140 other people liked this
I'm showing Six Flags tomorrow...lol
- sean andersen
*doffs hat in respect to the passing of the time of geeks*
- WorldofHiglet
So what's next?
- Kevin Arth
yeah but unlike twitter, I'm not so sure internet marketers would feel successful on FriendFeed with everyone blocking them
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Now on to Google Wave!
- sean andersen
And the spammers too, I guess. Great..
- Citronella
And ghost posters / commenters.
- Ben Hanten
Slayerboy: good marketers won't get blocked. I really appreciated getting cuts in line at Six Flags because of their Twitter contest.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Good marketers aren't most marketers :)
- Brett Kelly
Brett: only good ones will survive here.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Or they will drown.
- sean andersen
Only if Guy likes it will they come. Friendfeed.alltop.com and all that.
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
Robert: I don't mind good marketers, as long as they're genuine. Too many of them (particular the "social media marketing gurus") are just unforgivably obnoxious and fake in their attempts to pimp their own garbage services/blog. So, I really hope you're right :)
- Brett Kelly
Bad marketers on FriendFeed will survive in search results. Do a search for a couple of terms like 'canon 135mm' and you'll see plenty of entries that are just links to people selling the lens. You're not going to block them all. I don't see that as a big problem, but I suspect they'll be successful enough there to keep them coming.
- Edward Coffey
Start? I've been here for a loooong time. A few of my 'marketing' friends have been too.
- AJ Kohn
Marketers phase has already started in Turkey. Friendfeed is generally used by them, or I think like that...
- Sabri Küstür
we need like a freindfeed costranostra to keep the peace, and make things just poof into the ethersphere
- Robert Higgins
so wish i was a freindfeed coder and i could merge with the stream and provide some community services... :AKA Hiro Protaganist
- Robert Higgins
@Robert: +1 for Snowcrash reference.
- AJ Kohn
I'm in Marketing, and I've been here from the beginning. Are you slandering my craft, Mr. Scoble? :)
- Louis Gray
Louis: you don't work for a big brand. When you sell your souls and work for a big brand let us know, OK? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, wait, don't you work for a big brand?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: sssshhhhh.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
"Now on to Google Wave! - sean andersen" Exactly. Unless the FF core team is over there on the sandbox right now, doing all they can to start the scrambling scrum RIGHT NOW, the big GWave will assimilate all. At least until the assimilation wave after that. FF has maybe a one year window -- if that -- to make it's move, whatever that might be, starting right now.
- michael silverton
Citronella - I like that the spammers are vaporized almost instantly here. Decent built in tools for group reporting.
- BairdWilliamson
If I got here before Guy and I'm geekless does that give me any special designation?
- Kimber Scott
michael silverton: Wave sandbox already looks like Gmail. I bet when they release it, it will be Gmail 2.0. I hope Bret & co. are studying it close...
- sean andersen
Kimber: you are geeky because you were here before...whether you like that designation or not :)
- WorldofHiglet
Louis has more than *one* soul? Or is this a left-foot, right-foot thing. Colour me confus`ed :D
- Micah Wittman
LOL! Well, I guess I could be called an amateur geek...
- Kimber Scott
from email
Pot. Kettle. Black.
- Gilbert Harding
@silverton, agreed that FriendFeed has a limited time window to figure out what it wants to be when it's all grown up.. in other news, can't believe it took Guy this long to show up here to play. Nothing wrong with a little marketing, especially if it's of the "Moving the Freeline" variety.. +1 Gilbert, LOL.
- Alex Schleber
If I were Guy, or the head of any company, be it a camera shop or whatever, whenever I had a little free time, I'd tweet out, "Hey, I'm going to be on FriendFeed for an hour or so, answering any questions about Alltop, telling you about its features, advantages, and benefits, come join in!" or something like that. That's a vertical that feeds off Twitter and really enriches both platforms, utilizing them both for their strengths.
- Stephen Pickering
With Leo, Steve Rubel, and Guy K now all here .. this landscape is about to change ... agreed.
- Charlie Anzman
I'm reading Crossing the Chasm, only 18 years after it was published. Can I blend in as a "marketer" now?
- DGentry
Well hopefully communities will coexist in open social media, we aren't defined by what or where we login to right? It's just information we share, the platform is merely a pipeline. The communities need to exist beyond the platforms
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
<LOL>
- Allen Harkleroad
Say it isn't so Joe! It will be interesting to watch the transformation, will FriendFeed go to the dark side or will it make a stand :)
- Owen Greaves
true.. true..
- Cesar Sanchez
So, do you think the population will tend to shift to more casual people than the creme de la creme people. I feel so, since there are only the innovative, open-minded people on FriendFeed right now; and I think the change is pretty near.
- Yiğit Arda Türkoğlu
Marketing guys have always been here. The difference... tactics and respect. That being said change is always happening and even still I'm not sure Friendfeed will hit the critical mass Twitter has with marketers. The friendfeed brand will likely be defined differently than Twitter and attract different people. Time will tell.
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
why? can't marketing guys and geeks get along?
- kakuei
No. We cannot get along. This war has been waged for too long, and too much blood has been spilled. Most of us no longer even remember why we are fighting, but it doesn't matter. Victory is all that matters.
- DGentry
The marketers are already here, but most of them are totally clueless about how friendfeed works. They somehow think they can dump their stuff here and it will get "found" and when that doesn't work, they just go back to twitter. The ones that do understand how it works either feel it is too much damn work to fake being real to be worth it, or they are the real deal and it works quite well for them.
- April Russo (app103)
April: I think there's some cost-benefit analysis going on there. There's a smaller crowd at FF and it takes a lot more work. Plus, most people here are marketing jaded.
- Trent Hamm
The craft of marketing. That's priceless.
- Big K
Guy is a marketer, sure, but also a geek. Geeks phase ends when the Celebs show up.
- Garin Kilpatrick
well if they start selling, just dont click "like" or "comment" and they will drop off the page in minutes
- Mark
I think some marketers are already here..but anyway, you think Guy being here will change things much?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Robert, you might have to make a stand for geeks everywhere. Prepare yourself.
- Joe
Robert, "Wanna learn how to get 1,000's of Friendfeed friends in no time. Click here http://somespammylink.com to learn my patent pending, amazing, fantastic, game-changing, and revolutionary way to gain residual income through the magic of your Friendfeed friends." Don't click yet, I was just brushing up!
- Sean Powell
I'm so honored to have read this message from scoble. I'm grateful for our "geeks only" days that we've all shared! LOL
- Jason Pollock
No Kidding! Welcome Guy Kawasaki, who ever your are.
- Houseofmax
Yes I agree
- Randy Allen Bishop
thats unfortunate, but who is GuyK?
- echostreamer
When the marketer wagon shows up I'll be going private.
- Geoff Schultz
Yeah, Jim Goldstein sez it: those of us from the dark side that stumbled into these sweet precincts have kept a low profile... sorta like taking your hat off when you go to church ; >
- Thom Kennon
he's actually been here awhile, just not posting, mr scoble
- chaz2b
Some ppl cannot be stopped. Like me! Not geeky enough, a girl, too wall st. Watch out, cause tenacity wins every time.
- Liza
well then lets learn from Twitter and not follow every stupid command that celebrities give us to rocket them to the top of friend feed. BOYCOTT ALL CELEBRITIES ON FRIEND FEED to save this from becoming the punchline that twitter. save the whales, then save friend feed plez :)
- echostreamer
Jason Pollock liked this, that is HILARIOUS! He posts the most redundant links on Twitter...a notorious spammer. At least Guy admits what he does, still somewhat annoying. Not sure why Leo Laporte was mentioned, I don't see him fitting that GK mold at all.
- Benjamin Taylor
In retrospect ... it seems to have been a hit and run for now ?? Hoping not. Would be great to see him actively engaging here. A LOT to offer. Marketing crowd? ... No worries - There's always 'block, tackle and hide .....' here
- Charlie Anzman
Robert, I think this is such crazy talk, you're a marketer too ;)
- Jeremiah Owyang
Umm, I'm pretty sure that Guy is also a geek. Regardless of what his cool cred is...then again his cool cred is totally geek cool cred.
- Alex Scoble
LOL Robert. What is wrong with you. I lol'd.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Guy Kawasaki does have magic initials, I will give him that.
- Garin Kilpatrick
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- پـرستووو
from email
doh!
- Jonathan Blundell
Oh god the end of the world is near :)
- Daryl Hunt on FF
Well now with the FB acquisition this post just seems like a jab in the eye. Poor FF.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Wow - people are writing entire blog posts in the comments on my post here: http://staynalive.com/article.... Do people not blog any more?
Kol Tregaskes, E-Advocate Network, Mahendra (SkepticGeek) and 7 other people liked this
I'm thinking of a blog reply actually......
- Alexander van Elsas
Alexander, I like those - go at it! Comments are good, but if you have more than a paragraph or two to respond, a blog response is in order (which is why I wrote mine in response to Robert Scoble's).
- Jesse Stay
I've never liked the idea of replying to somebody else's blog on your own blog. It disconnects the conversation, makes it harder for other people to follow. It's fine if you have something larger to say or want to take it a different direction, but a straight conversation is best conducted as comments. Note that this disconnection problem could be eliminated if pingbacks/trackbacks didn't get relegated to the dark side of the blogs.
- Otto
There's a related conversation over here http://friendfeed.com/vanelsa... Specifically, we're stuck in this world where everybody wants to have people come to *their* site and use *their* UI... whether it's Facebook, Twitter, or bloggers. We need better tools that just let us author content--both short and long form--and connect it all together, but recognize we'll never get everything and every conversation connected.
- Ken Sheppardson
Where and when exactly did we lose hold of the fundamental idea that the web is a network of hyperlinked content, and not everything related needs to or can appear on the same page at the same time?
- Ken Sheppardson
What's a page?
- Cliff Gerrish
@Otto, I think that centralizing conversation impossible and unnecessary is. Conversation need to be free, taking place wherever it wants. That's what happens in the physical world too. Having said that, I do like it in general when people comment on blogs or using a blog link ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
+1 Ken ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
I agree with decentralization in theory, but how can you follow the conversation? If I'm reading your blog, then how do I see the replies to it on all these other blogs? Do I have to see them first and follow backwards? That seems inefficient and unnecessary. I don't care if it's displayed in the same place, I simply want there to be some obvious indication and easy way to find...
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- Otto
Otto, maybe so. I know right now there are people somewhere in the world are talking about topics I have an interest in. I can't follow all of that, but that's fine with me :-)
- Alexander van Elsas
from iPhone
I can only hope that someday I do or write about something that somebody somewhere finds important enough to talk about even though I'm not around to participate in the conversation. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
+2 ken :-) sorry for the hijack of this conversation Jesse ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
from iPhone
Otto, I like to let you own your own content. Posting on my blog takes that credit away from you and gives it to me. When you post on your own blog it shows up as a trackback on mine, so you should still be linked to the conversation.
- Jesse Stay
I wonder how Technorati has suffered since people stopped writing blog posts and have instead resorted to comments. Do they need to start tracking number of comments instead of links now?
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse plus they do not track Twitter reactions or FF posts :)
- Valeria Maltoni
Otto, for this purpose (keeping track of conversations happening across multiple blogs) Trackbacks where invented. Unfortunately, they are not widely supported across blogs. So for those blogs who do not have trackbacks, it can indeed be hard to find the responses on different blogs. A good alternative may be for the person who has responded on his blog to leave a comment on the original post stating he has replied on his blog, with a url to his post included (that is the essence of trackback actually).
- Meryn Stol
Otto, excuse me, reading back I see that you know of trackbacks... Well anyway, my point still stands. Maybe we should design a more spam-proof way of doing trackbacks.
- Meryn Stol
Yeah, trackbacks are great and all, but they don't really solve the fundamental problem, as I see it. For one, they're extremely limited in scope, and for two, people complain that they add to the "clutter" of comment conversations. I don't know of a real solution, yet. Wish I did.
- Otto
Otto, I think the solution is better clients. An advanced greasemonkey script could probably - by using screenscraping - display the content of the trackbacks in full below the original post if a user wishes so. But clients are at a loss if there's no trackback-info.. So trackbacks need to return first.
- Meryn Stol
Giving Google Reader the ole' college try, now that it's got new features n' stuff. So I start reading all my items, it's just one big long window of stuff. How do I mark an individual item as "read"? The only options I see are "mark all as read", or "mark items older than a day as read", etc.
Mike Chelen, E-Advocate Network, testbeta and 2 other people liked this
You just use keyboard shortcuts. J jumps forward. K goes back. You can read more feeds this way than any other service I've seen. J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-K-J-J-J-K-K-J-J... you get the idea.
- Louis Gray
thanks! I mean, I saw the "previous" and "next" buttons also, but I want stuff I'm NOT interested in to disappear. Can I do that?
- Laura Norvig
Doh! Never mind - I see what I was looking for now at the bottom of the individual item.
- Laura Norvig
Great. Have some patience, but I think you'll love it. Fantastic product.
- Louis Gray
I'm liking it, but I have issues with the fact that stuff I "mark as read" doesn't get shunted off to a folder or disappear.
- Laura Norvig
Google Reader works diefferently. Normally all you have to do is *read* the entries you like. They will be marked as read, and will disappear *the next time* you open Google Reader. I also mark all entries as read (button at the top) when i am finished. So the next time i only see new stuff.
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
Hmm, I tried that and it didn't work for me. But I'm clicking on "All Items" to read. Is there some other view that will only have new stuff?
- Laura Norvig
Am I the only one that uses N instead of J?
- Tristan Seligmann
You might try feedly, which is a firefox plugin that sits over Greader. I find the process of reading through the entries isn't quite as fast but you can make things disappear from the screen immediately if you want
- Marc Staniford
I keep Reader in "Expanded" view, displaying only new items. I cruise through it as if it were an inbox, hitting "j" to move from one article to the next, simply flagging (i.e. Star-ing with the "s" key) those items that will take more than a few seconds to read. The "r" key refreshes the page, hiding those items I've already read/seen and displaying any additional articles Reader has...
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- Ken Sheppardson
BTW, I've cut down to only 64 feeds at the moment, and seem to get most of my new items from the 12 people whose shared items I follow (including Louis :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Those are great tips, Ken. And Marc, I have heard nothing but goodness about Feedly. Did not realize it was a firefox plugin, though, interesting (and fine by me, as Firefox is my browser of choice).
- Laura Norvig
So if Google Reader is supposed to be morphing into a sort of socnet of its own, how do I see, for example, all of the 12 people whose shared items you follow, Ken?
- Laura Norvig
Hmm... that's a great question. I don't think there's a way to do that at the moment. By the way, while I had a little weekend fling with the social features in Reader, I prune that list of people I follow relentlessly and haven't looked at the "comments" view in days now. I've retreated to FriendFeed for now when it comes to true conversation, discovery, and true crowd-sourced recommendations,
- Ken Sheppardson
Laura - you should click on 'N new items' along with the 'Refresh' button will get what you need, I think. Avoid the 'All items' link, unless you'd like to go back and read something you didn't star or otherwise tag (as Ken suggests).
- Joel
Mobile map projector with GPS lights the way - http://news.cnet.com/8301-17...
Jason A. Samfield, Ben Hanten, ovigia and 68 other people liked this
"This handy portable map projector equipped with GPS makes getting lost a thing of the past. All you need is a surface to shine your map on. A friend's forehead would do. Designed by Jinsun Park and Seonkeun Park of South Korea's Samsung Art & Design Institute, the Maptor is somewhat similar to this map/flashlight we profiled awhile back, but far more convenient. Not only do you not have to bother with tiresome unfolding of paper, you don't have to search for your location, thanks to the GPS function that points it out."
- April Russo (app103)
from Bookmarklet
That's cool.
- Anne Bouey
Cool. (and hey, a concept shared via Yanko design that somehow doesn't have glaring conceptual flaws! Mark this day.)
- Andrew C
+Want, very cool
- Threepwood
This is kind of cool, but where exactly are the maps coming from? Via bluetooth on your iPhone (which already has maps)?
- Cristo
Yeah, maps coming via bluetooth from an iPhone would certainly be a "glaring conceptual flaw" to me. iPhone = Do Not Want. IMO.
- Ladybug Heather
But comparing the size of a projected map to the screen size on an iPhone, it might be easier to see them this way.
- April Russo (app103)
Wouldn't the maps be in the device like any other gps?
- Cody Heitschmidt
Samsung has projector phones in the market now
- Taehoon Kim
Cody, the article says they come through a connection via bluetooth. Phones already have a connected mechanism for downloading maps. April, the size of the map might be bigger, but the ability to directly manipulate it is severely reduced. E.g. how would you get directions or look at a location other than where you are currently? Also, a backlit phone screen would probably be a lot easier to see than a projected one
- Cristo
Cristo, I guess I took "Maps can be downloaded via bluetooth" to mean that new or updated maps could be received via bluetooth and "Downloaded" to the device. If that is the case.. seems like a cool little gadget. If it is just projecting from another device you must carry around, how would it incorporate its GPS to put the red "u r here" arrow on it?
- Cody Heitschmidt
Cody, it would request a map from the device based on lat/long. If maps have to be manually downloaded, then what is the likelihood that the right map will be there when you go to use it? In my experience, manually loading maps has been a fail.
- Cristo
awesome!
- Mahmood Padura
Who cares about tropical storms...watch out for massive flooding from my drool!
- Scott of Two Countries
Well, downloading maps for storage on the device wouldn't be that bad if it was regional maps. I don't think someone living in NYC needs every street map in the world. Having maps of Paris, London, and Tokyo would be a waste if all you need is NYC or the NY/NJ/CT tri-state area.
- April Russo (app103)
that looks crazy cool.
- Chieze Okoye
It says sixth sense projection technology is too close! http://www.wired.com/epicent...
- Death Sucker The Great
"20 Ways to Change the World in 15 Minutes a Day" http://ff.im/-6N7is (via @mashable) - mainly US based ideas but not only. #nptech - http://twitter.com/timolue...
E-Advocate Network liked this
does anybody know if there is a special way on youtube to indicate that the video is under creative commons license? #nptech #ff - http://twitter.com/lnorvig...
E-Advocate Network and Meryn Stol liked this
No? Do anybody no if a government account has similar features as a "Partners" account?
- Laura Norvig
They don't use cc licensing
- Beth Kanter
Thanks Beth!
- Laura Norvig
Apparently there are a few special "Partners" who have this and offer downloading: Stanford is one: http://creativecommons.org/weblog...
- Laura Norvig
Have you ever considered using, or are you using, Friendfeed as a tool for your nonprofit organization, internally or externally? If yes, how is it going? If not, why not? #nptech #monthlytopic
E-Advocate Network, Eric Johnson and Joe Solomon liked this
We are using it in several ways but some of them have not taken off. The first is a basic aggregation of our content here: http://friendfeed.com/service... You can see we only have 65 subscribers - that's compared to 1,193 on Twitter. We take that aggregated feed and display it on one of our internal pages on our website here: http://nationalserviceresources.org/connect It's a handy way to provide a fresh mix of delicious links, tweets, and youtube favorites.
- Laura Norvig
The second thing we've done is, I've created a private room for staff discussion/sharing. It hasn't really caught on, though, as we have many other more officially sanctioned (but not as versatile, IMO) ways of communicating internally.
- Laura Norvig
The third thing I've done is create a place to listen to news in our field. http://friendfeed.com/service...
- Laura Norvig
We've set up a FF account that's aggregating our content (http://friendfeed.com/volunte...), but haven't done much with it yet. Honestly not really sure what to do with it! I need to wave the 'information overload' flag on this one. I know I can set up filters, but I don't really get the impression that FF is a primary destination where people go to interact anyway. Since I can't engage everywhere, FF has taken a backseat -- at least for now.
- Matt Koltermann
Yup, I think Friendfeed is still an early-adopter platform, so it's not yet useful for initiating conversation with constituents. It *is* useful as a listening tool, or an aggregation tool that you can than push out to your own website or blog.
- Laura Norvig
FF's new embeddable search feature seems to be a promising way to aggregate and display relevant content on our website, actually. Speaking of aggregation, we've been bookmarking our Web mentions on Delicious (http://delicious.com/volunte...) and turned an RSS feed of our "mentions+news+bestof" tags into a dynamic new "CCS in the News" page, which just launched today! Still needs some stylistic tweaking, but we're very excited about this model: http://tr.im/ccsnews
- Matt Koltermann
That is a cool solution, Matt, congratulations on that implementation!
- Laura Norvig
We're doing something similar to Matt, where we use delicious and friendfeed to track mentions of our dinosaur trail and individual dinosaurs. We separate out based on whether the content is from an "expert" source (orange box) or an "amateur" (yellow box). See http://www.lifeandscience.org/dinosau... for the main page, and click on one of the dinosaur icons at the top of the page to see how it works for each individual dinosaur.
- Jeff Stern
Custom FriendFeed themes and a way to show them off - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
(1)Bebekvegebelik, Jason A. Samfield, Nick Mutton and 235 other people liked this
"Starting today, people who visit your profile will see it in the theme you've chosen... We've [also] added an option that lets you create a custom theme by uploading a background image and choosing a few colors."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
This is all for MG: http://friendfeed.com/parisle...
- Bret Taylor
See FF is not dead...yet. :)
- Bryan Lee
Cool, thanks Bret!!
- Kol Tregaskes
MG?
- Kol Tregaskes
Huzzah!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Dude... 1) I called it... 2) Why do it if your not gonna be around long............ Unless...........
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
MG Spiegler?
- Bryan Lee
Ah, thanks for the edit there, Bret. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Rolling out these features pretty darn quick
- anna sauce
Awesome!
- Robert Scoble
Cool!
- Anne Bouey
Anyone else have a duck scrolling across your screen that you can shoot?
- Sam Houston
Sam: I made FriendFeed News duck hunt despite the objections of almost everyone in the office :) http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Bret Taylor
I LOVE IT!!! I'm going to have to "greasemonkey-remove" the borders around the box titles.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
thankyou, done deal & it looks good, thanks again, :)
- chaz2b
Haha, cool. Thanks for the answer Bret :) BTW Congrats on the acquisition earlier this week. Fantastic news for a great team and great product :)
- Sam Houston
Zul, hold on that a sec...
- Kevin Fox
Oh my! WILL DO! *holding pattern commenced*
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
(Deleted: Nevermind. Sorry Kevin, Bret.)
- Meryn Stol
Must be Bret's theme, Sam.
- Kol Tregaskes
Meryn: you can do that by clicking "Settings" and then un-check the "See other people's themes" checkbox
- Bret Taylor
Yay! Let's party like it's 2004 and we're customising our Myspace profiles!
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
Bret: is this to help usher in branded pages for companies, celebrities,etc?
- Bryan Lee
Called it! ~ http://ff.im/5aLBG ;)
- CannonGod
Bryan: yep, that is one of the goals.
- Bret Taylor
So silly. :)
- Louis Gray
Duck hunt is awesome! Tell Kevin to go sit in the corner for a while. :-)
- Robert Scoble
But what if I don't want to see other people's themes? There's a reason I avoid doing that on Twitter. Can we make our theme the default at all times?
- Admiral Anika
yes, finally. hot dog theme.
- MG Siegler
Anika, you can turn it off in your settings. Both others' seeing yours and/or you seeing others'.
- LogEx
Nice! (especially "See other people's themes" config option)
- Micah Wittman
Hot dog? No way man... BACON!
- Mark Krynsky
thanks Bret, I'm working on it :)
- MG Siegler
not sure if I am happy about this one :) Thanks for the updates though!
- Tim Hoeck
Zulema, the box-border bug is fixed now. Thanks!
- Kevin Fox
very nice! - to see profiles with theme selected by owner, not our own ...
- Petr Buben
I was hoping for long time to see this =) Thank you people.
- Durukan Duru
So FF is sticking around? I'm confused. When will we know of the future of FF?
- Kol Tregaskes
Tim: Uncheck both checkboxes in the settings dialog and the feature will go away completely for you.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin: on my page, my name is fading into the background. Any way to control the color of that text?
- Robert Scoble
Oh no, celebrities. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
ah, I figured as much there would be a setting, thanks Kevin! :P
- Tim Hoeck
Thank you, LE. It wouldn't have killed me to check that first, but I'm super tired.
- Admiral Anika
Robert: If you change your theme's background color to black (even though it won't display because of hte tiling) the links will turn white.
- Kevin Fox
Robert, that's too much green monster for me. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
to your guys' credit you make it pretty hard to make this as hideous as you can make Gmail
- MG Siegler
You're doing pretty good MG
- Casey Muller
Slouching towards MySpace?
- Christopher Harley
@ Chris ..well, how about to make this personal themes showing through an option? /quick button, no need to go to settings - that'd be too far :] .. option for viewer, not for author
- Petr Buben
Ok so I'm shooting ducks here. is that part of the custom pages open to all?
- BairdWilliamson
I'm sorry, but this is the lamest thing FF has done (besides sell to Facebook, perhaps). This should not be default, especially when there's a theme that sends a duck flying across pages distracting you from reading them (it's like 1997 all over again). The only upside is that you can turn it off. It's a neat gimmick the first time, but after that it's just lame and becomes a...
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- Tanath
I'm sorry, Tanath, but I 100.000% disagree with you. Don't like it? Turn it off. Me? I love it.
- Stephen Mack
Already have - but it shouldn't be default behaviour.
- Tanath
Why not? I bet more people love it than hate it.
- Stephen Mack
Look, I'm excited that FF is still being worked on too, but this is arguably a step in the wrong direction. There's reasons why MySpace is going down the toilet, and different themes on every page is one of them. I'm inclined to take that bet, just not at this early point because it's mostly die-hard FF addicts that even know of the feature's existence.
- Tanath
As long you guys don't f*** with it, I can't see a problem. Why should FF staff avoid a feature only fearing its possible misuse? I'd rather see an option inside FF to explicitly hide user themes, if they get disturbing.
- David Schmidt
On or off, I can't see any themes on friendfeed except what I have in my browser's usercontent.css file. It would have been nice to include an "advanced user" feature that could have allowed us to enter in our own custom CSS for designing our own theme, sort of like how LiveJournal allows. That would have not only allowed customizing on friendfeed, it would also fix the problem with...
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- April Russo (app103)
David: you can hide other people's themes in your settings (top right of the page)
- Bret Taylor
April, that is a good idea.
- joey
The Coolest and Creative FriendFeed Theme http://friendfeed.com/yusuph... (http://friendfeed.com/burakdo...)
- Yusuf İbili
Bret: There ya go, you guys are fabulous and amazing. Nothing to complain about here on FF.
- David Schmidt
@joey It was something I suggested over a month ago as a one possible solution to a problem I discovered. http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- April Russo (app103)
Comparisons to MySpace seem off, since custom themes involve only four possibilities (background image, background color, bar color and box color) -- no widgets, no custom HTML, etc. And first and foremost, they can be switched off. How many times do you visit someone else's page on FF anyway? Most of the time is in your home feed or different lists. I just don't get the negativity, when it's a fun and optional feature that you can opt out from ever seeing again in about two seconds.
- Stephen Mack
I don't know if I consider customizing a few basic settings is really a "Theme".
- Steve de Mena
The correct analogy is to twitter.com user pages, right?
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, that was our thinking internally, though we also give a bit more control with the checkboxes.
- Kevin Fox
Forcing themes on others is bad. This needs an opt out. Glad I use custom CSS.
- Michael W. May
Michael: It DOES have an opt out. If you don't like it please opt out! Click Settings in upper right, you'll see two prominent check boxes regarding theme display.
- Stephen Mack
Kevin: Thanks! You're right, you did twitter one better by letting people opt out of seeing customized themes entirely.
- Stephen Mack
Michael, just uncheck the "See other people's themes" checkbox under settings and you won't see anyone else's theme.
- Dan Hsiao
Stephen's right. Read Bret's comment further up: "[Y]ou can do that by clicking "Settings" and then un-check the "See other people's themes" checkbox" - Bret Taylor
- Micah Wittman
i really like this.really really :-)
- dwightboozer
If this is any indication of what is to come, congrats :) Absolutely gorgeous!
- mySingapore
Thanks to the FF staff, this has been a long awaited request =) Ya'll rock!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
What's the next? I guess "FF background creator tools" will come out nowadays. :)
- Oğuz Serdar
To begin with, is "Themes" really a necessary feature? Still, great to see the new features coming. =)
- Winston Teo
sytycd = best theme ever!
- Jen Liao
Winston: yes. I've been waiting for this for a long time. It lets me put some personality onto my home page and that is, believe it or not, important. Very important for brands, too, if this is going to become a business.
- Robert Scoble
love this :)
- Edgar Rodríguez
Bret u rock!
- orionstarr
from iPhone
I had not noticed the steampunk theme. Awesome.
- j1m
@Stephen Mack so it does, thanks, and apologies. I shouldn't comment before mocha, I know this.
- Michael W. May
It's great ! My new theme : http://friendfeed.com/allford...
- All for design
@All for design: Nice theme. Only the blue of the logo sticks out like a sore thumb.
- Peter
Can you guys stop adding awesome new features, please? Otherwise, no-one else will have a chance to catch up and it'll be an even greater disappointment when it goes. ;)
- James Myatt
Hurrah! I just themed my page along the lines of Twitter and my web page [ http://www.achean.com - shameless plug, but I need the hits! ]
- achean
Check Out My Theme;)
- ALPER DURUKAN
Is it possible to make the background image resolution neutral... It is spoiling my lulz --> http://www.friendfeed.com/jworthi...
- Johnny Worthington
I changed my background, but how do I let others see? when I click Bret's page, I still see my own background...I assume this is similar to twitter's custom theme where every user has a different background when their link is clicked. (I'm on friendfeed.com/bret, but still seeing my own background). -edit-Nvm...I guess I have to log out to see it...
- brainno722 (Peter)
@Kevin, thanks for removing the borders <3. @Peter he probably doesn't have a theme set for his own profile...
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
issue uploading background. hangs on firefox & safari. tile image checkbox is greyed out.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
how can i change the font color of "my name"?
- Bahriye
I think life is better if you choose to trust people a little more. Something about reality being a mirror.
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I'm sure this seems naive to many.
- Paul Buchheit
i'm naive by nature, but always honest, :)
- chaz2b
I wish this was true in our country. Relative to other cultures, we have much to learn.
- Akshay Dodeja
people can be trusted, groups less and organizations never (sorry, I should also add "by me as a general rule")
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Are you saying... to chill out?
- Josh Haley
Too many people complaining, I guess. Indeed, trust is something rare in the cynical times we live in.
- Jordi Soler
I believe people who are questioning will trust more when they get more clarity. In the absence of answers, speculation fills the gap.
- Louis Gray
hey man I trust loads more people online than off and I certainly trust the FFolk. These guys are no fools to build what they built and sell what they sold.
- Thomas Power
Unfortunately clarity takes time. Life is inherently unpredictable.
- Paul Buchheit
PB I am happy to wait take your time and yes I trust you all the whole team.
- Thomas Power
It's precisely because I viewed FF as a collection of people that I invested trust with them - so yes I'm waiting for the clarity that I trust will come and hope your allowed to share it by the new boss.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I couldn't agree with you more Paul. (congrats BTW) I just hope bigger companies also realize the same thing, we will treat them the same way they treat us. With FF I think we all felt like part of the team, communication was open and two-way..it brought the passion out of all of us.
- Chris Myles
I ain't no naysayer I am a true FFsupporter. Go PB Bear x
- Thomas Power
i don't think ppl always like what they see...perhaps why they choice to treat others badly : reflecting their own ugly.
- :}(o|O){:
Oh, I could tell you stories about how I trusted people and was let down, betrayed, and backstabbed. Cynicism is not without precedent.
- Morton Fox
I don't think it's naive, you definitely live better when you are not constantly thinking if people are trying to scam you.
- Amit Morson
It's not good to call a bluff on people/anything before you understand the situation. On trusting people a little more....that's fine. However, it's a very thin line because people are different and unique in many aspects.We can do much more if we remove the slyness that have destroyed capitalism.
- Symon Muchina Thuo
BTW, I like the little "Add comment" thingy. Good going.
- Amit Morson
If I went with optimism, I would prefer cautious optimism over blind optimism.
- Morton Fox
culturally it seems cynicism is a means for people to cope with irony
- :}(o|O){:
I trust the FF team. As I said before I doubt they'll let FB take over and do messy things. They worked too hard to let them do that.
- Molly, "sorry"
I always give people a bit of trust, and it works out. There have been very few people that have lost the trust I gave them. I expect the best from everyone, and most return the favor. As for thinks like FF, well I don't have a lot of experience and I'm not super attached to the current workings, so I'm just waiting patiently to see what happens. I didn't join for the system, I joined for the people and the content. ^_^
- Heather
ana, that is why trust is required :)
- Paul Buchheit
It sounds like you've gained some confidence in yourself. That's always a plus.
- Wallace
I love FF. You guys have done a great job, and I have no doubt you will continue to do so. Some may have acted more on emotions than needed. However, when you end up being too trustworthy for too long, you tend to get burned. It's cheesy, it's a cliche, but it happens. I know I'm not one of the big ones here, but earlier today, in my completely zombified state, I decided to just roll...
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- Matthew Horton
I don't like how some people are thinking you "sold out" because you were bought by FB, because you needed the money and if you didn't get it what would happen? I think people are pissed off mainly because FB was the service that bought it. What if Myspace or Micorsoft bought FF? I bet there would be more people (including myself) who would totally lose trust in you guys.
- Molly, "sorry"
Some people are going to take this cryptic post as "Friendfeed will remain a separate entity and will continue to be developed, but I just can't reveal that yet." If that's not what ends up happening -- as seems almost certainly to be the case -- many FFers will hold it against you. I don't believe that's what you're saying, but many will. I imagine the fact that the reaction is mostly...
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- Christopher A Carr
Christopher - I think Paul should start writing even more cryptic posts to /really/ mess with people.
- Andrew C
He seems busting at the seems to talk about *something* he knows, I just doubt that something will really be all that reassuring.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, you're reading too much into this (as are most people here). I really do mean it as a general point about life. The truth is that I don't know exactly what the future holds, and neither does anyone else.
- Paul Buchheit
I have been through a few recent experiences where my apprehensions and concerns about the honesty and the intent of people have been proven wrong. I guess some of us need to go through this phase of realization before we can start trusting people a bit easier than before.
- Jassim
Paul: I was saying that I'm not reading that into your post, but many people will. In light of circumstances, posting something like that is going to be heavily interpreted, right?
- Christopher A Carr
I guess I'm in what some people might think of "denial". I want to think positively instead of being cynical. Being cynical to me is negative and doesn't solve a damn thing. Being positive about anything this day and age is a bad thing, I guess. People view positive feelings as being "in denial" which IMHO is a bunch of bullcrap.
- Molly, "sorry"
Depressing country music comes to mind... the dog ran away and the truck died, sad tune... *Sigh*
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Perhaps more to the point: Most here may trust the former FF team, but many don't trust Facebook.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, I think that is the main point. It was interesting to see Matt Cutts post his congrats via a FF post, but also mention that he hopes the FF team brings some openness to the FB. That is part of the trust thing. Even Microsoft is more trustworthy than FB right now and everyone knows that a team of talented devs getting swallowed up by an untrustworthy corp typically makes no difference to the corp's culture.
- Travis Koger
I hate Facebook
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Software is scalable to huge customer bases.. Customer support, feedback, and expectations don't scale as easily!!
- Chris Myles
Travis: Yep.
- Christopher A Carr
I had to admit, even though I like FB a lot, they have done some things I'm not happy with. I'm hoping they don't mess with FF too much or I won't go there anymore.
- Molly, "sorry"
@Paul, I will stretch my trust a bit further to see how this washes out for the FF team, but in my view trust is always based on the actions and the way this has been handled, given that you are well aware of your rabid fan base, is not good for maintaining trust. I would have actually preferred that FF be bought my Microsoft (I know MS haters, perish the thought), but at the moment I...
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- Travis Koger
Thing is, every single FF user with a FB account could go delete their Facebook account, and Facebook would barely notice. So it's hard to believe that that they care -- why should they?
- Christopher A Carr
Totally agree Christopher. The FF crowd are such a small bag that they do not care. The reason why I would prefer MS is that they would care because they are clawing marketshare with any means, each little grab of users for them means a lot more then it does to FB, who as we all know don't even care about their existing 250-300mill.
- Travis Koger
Travis: You do know that MS is FB's single largest investor by far, right? For all practical purposes, MS bought FF as much as FB did
- LANjackal
LANjackal, yeah, but I am not sure about single largest? Particularly since the valuation that they bought in at was a lot higher than the current valuation from the recent buy in, so I think their shareholding is a tiny bit smaller now. There is still competition between the two for users, as there is from Google and twitter etc.
- Travis Koger
Hmm, I don't like mirrors...
- Mo Kargas
Lanjackal, I told like you to one of my friends feed yesterday, you are right!
- muratt
Travis: FB isn't publicly traded, and MS has given them more funding than anyone else, period. No one else has come close to the $240M MS poured into FB
- LANjackal
muratt: Thanks, appreciated
- LANjackal
Travis: You don't think the Bing search results integrated with FB search results are accidental, do you? That said, I'm not one of those people who believes everything MS is bad. So far they've done well allowing FB to grow as they have. I've been with FB since 2004 so I have more faith in them than the average person. I'm giving them time to see how this all shakes out, and putting a lil trust in the FF devs too
- LANjackal
LANjackal, absolutely not, I know that was part of the investment and obviously worth a shed load more than the original 240M. I did think though that they had just received 200M from a russian company and have received other similar size investments from other companies. Don't get me wrong, I am not a total FB hater, if they do right by FF then I will absolutely stick around. What I...
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- Travis Koger
This is a smart approach. Trust...but verify. As much as many of us chuckled at Reagan in the 80s (OK, as much as some of us old guys chuckled) that's not a bad philosophy; it's what we do in day-to-day life, anyway. If we didn't implicitly trust most of the people we interacted with daily life would be chaos. Oh, and "naive" is the way we act on a daily basis.
- Tom Guarriello
Oh, and one more thing. I think the difference between the public reaction to FB buying FF and Amazon buying Zappos is fascinating.
- Tom Guarriello
I have actually more trust in FB than I have in Amazon - FB has not yet had the kind of anti competitive practices that Amazon has had in the last few years. If it had an easier way to ignore most apps, and reined their lawyers when revising T&Cs, FB would be positively peachy :)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Reality is a mirror. We will manifest in life what we continue to see and be. If we find that we continually cannot or do not trust people, it is often because we ourselves are not trustworthy. Give situations time to sort out before you automatically assume that the worst will come about.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Paul, I take your point. This is how I've gone through my entire life, with varying degrees of success. But I should tell you because of this I've been burned many, many times and have the emotional scars to prove it. It is not a statement to be made lightly (not that I think this is what you were doing).
- Jim: Dead Like FF
I think most people would like to trust but most people have been disappointed before so when one cares about something or someone might tend to create negative mental scenarios as a mechanism to protect oneself from another disappointment and not to appear a fool once again.
- M F
Cautious optimism is how I proceed. However, I've been involved in and project managed through many acquisitions, and usually the acquiree gets fed a bunch of bs about how they'll be able to control their destiny and keep their baby running. But I don't think I've ever seen that actually happen. I hope it might, in this case, but I feel like so much cannon fodder at this point.
- Rick Cogley
@rick - touche
- Monique
@PaulToo / Paul Buchheit you say "Unfortunately clarity takes time." This is really where I think many people take issue, why did you sell the company without getting a more firm road-map for how things were going to go (which you could have then announced)? Unless you basically said: "OK, just give us the money and we'll let things sort themselves out later." Which is of course your...
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- Alex Schleber
Are people forgetting that Paul sunk millions of his own money into FF? Unless FF was a 503c Foundation, he can't be faulted for seeking to recoup that, and with big players copying FF features every day, there was a risk to FF's future. I'm somewhat saddened by what happened, but happy for Paul, but either way, FF introduced a bunch of concepts that will now be copied by other...
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- Ray Cromwell
I like the sentiment to stay open and trusting. Life is too short to do otherwise. And since there is a lot of talk about the facebook deal on this thread guess I'll throw in my 2c there too -- which is, congratulations on another successful venture Paul. Very impressive and facebook will be better as a result. If FF gets lost in the shuffle that just means someone has to go out there and start another venture ;)
- Thomas Mader
@cromwellian, that's why I used the words "which is of course your prerogative"..business is business, fine. I congratulate the FF team on their business win. But then don't mix categories and try to bring social issues like "trust" back in through the backdoor. After Beacon et al. FB PR disasters, do you trust Zuckerberg/FB with a darn thing? You yourself seem to think similarly by saying you're "kinda resigned that it's long term fate is not in the cards." My point exactly..
- Alex Schleber
@Guruvan BTW I disagree with you that this has anything to with LOA/Projection type stuff..the point is we all trusted FB in the beginning..a long time ago. Did we attract their multiple mis-behaviors into our shared reality somehow?!?
- Alex Schleber
More accurately, life is better when people are trustworthy.
- Tanath
Alex: I have spent about 10 hours of my life with Mark Zuckerberg. I think he is a lot more trustworthy than most business leaders I have met.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Scobleizer, which isn't saying that much, would you agree? :) It is after all the same Mark Zuckerberg that handed out business cards reading "I'm CEO, Bitch" not all that long ago..
- Alex Schleber
How does facebook reconcile talking about openness but trying to prevent other services from gaining traction by blocking the flow of information out of facebook that would enable smaller networks to compete? It looks like facebook is trying to become the entire web experience for users.
- Ru Viljoen
I've been through too many mergers and acquisitions to trust anything the buying corporation says.
- Alex Scoble
yeah u need to trust now because you gave away control. i think it was a silly move. i still think that friendfeed could have turned the tide by itself,...with proper profiles and people search. now all you can do is hoping you didn't got fooled
- Chris Hofmann
Schleber: damn, I didn't get one of those cards from him and had to drag him into a Time Magazine party. He didn't want to go because he didn't have an invite. I think that's the last time that I'll have an invite to something he doesn't have. But, seriously, I love how we blow out of proportion people like him.
- Robert Scoble
Alex Scoble: I assume the worst and when the best happens, I'm surprised. That said, Zuckerberg and Facebook has never stabbed me in the back or been jerks the way some other companies have been.
- Robert Scoble
If facebook succeeds it will lead to a period where innovation stagnates, and finally the largest task for facebook is to wrest power from google, and I personally do not want that to happen.
- Ru Viljoen
Ru: if you think Facebook is stagnating, I think you are smoking some good dope. Remember, FriendFeed couldn't take off because Facebook was too fast a follower. Many of my favorite friends from across the industry are now working there. Don't underestimate this company.
- Robert Scoble
Plus they stole Google's sushi chef and he's freaking awesome.
- Robert Scoble
Any company in Silicon Valley who is powered by sushi is unstoppable. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I don't think that, I think facebook is brilliant and incredibly innovative, I mean it will go that way if they become too dominant in the comprehensive web experiance.
- Ru Viljoen
Ru: Facebook is the next Google.
- Robert Scoble
I have never heard of any company continuing to drive innovation as google has after acquiring a monopolistic majority, that is why I do not want it to be replaced.
- Ru Viljoen
Facebook never stabbed you in the back? :) http://scobleizer.com/2008...
- Louis Gray
I was thinking about that Louis.
- Alejandro
I think he is right, social search is better than legions of anonymous results. Facebook leads social so when they master search they will undermine google.
- Ru Viljoen
yeah but the content that is dragged into FB is still much more limited to what google can crawl.
- Chris Hofmann
What exactly are you referring to by "social search," Ru?
- Christopher A Carr
If I'm trying to figure out who *among my FB friends* has the cutest new baby, or the highest ranking on Farmtown, then FB is certainly superb.
- Christopher A Carr
Search results relative to people you know. So far facebook has focused on features and usability to grow its userbase, but it looks really obvious that they will then try to use that social network to create a search engine that uses your acquaintances to serve you recommendations or search results and people will love that.
- Ru Viljoen
Wait, what?
- Derrick
thats what friendfeed has been doing already
- Chris Hofmann
Ru: I could see that were FF as large as FB. My aunties and uncles on FB don't really know much about my interests or preferences. Won't FB have to radically restructure the network -- FoaF, and such?
- Christopher A Carr
i think that is the point of getting the friendfeed guys in the firstplace
- Chris Hofmann
In that case, there's so much legacy cruft in FB, why not build from FF's foundation if they're going to have to tear things down anyway?
- Christopher A Carr
Actually Paul, there is a famous wise American Caver named Donald Davis. Cavers find cave. Caves are a kind of form of Shrodingers Cat, we never know where more cave is until we find it. Davis postulated in the 60's that the cavers create the cave in their minds.
- Robert Higgins
FF is interests/information-centric. FB is people you happen to have encountered physically-centric.
- Christopher A Carr
It might be a hell of a lot of work but still that is where they will go. Bear in mind they have just released facebook lite and their explanation of it being for low brandwidth areas and mobiles smells like BS, but that is too speculative, fact is they can create that infrastructure with enough money, talent and users.
- Ru Viljoen
But they have 1/3 of a billion users with old expectations to placate. How radical can they be?
- Christopher A Carr
Well until it is done who knows how much behaviour will be shaken up, but they can be quite radical and people will not leave because how do you communicate with school friends and grandma if you leave?
- Ru Viljoen
It would seem extremely difficult to me to build a new house by ripping out a piece of the old house and replacing it, one piece at a time -- and starting from the roof. At best, for much of the process you'll have an ugly-ass Franken-house -- which is a good description of the state of affairs at FB.
- Christopher A Carr
Paul we trust you not to stab Friendfeed in the back, but to infiltrate and take over Facebook
- Robert Higgins
:) I can haz sleep nao.
- Eric Logan
No, Eric...it's only 4:48PM. :-)
- Christopher A Carr
hahaha well I hope facebook remains a secure place to chat to our real friends and some form of friendfeed lives on and grows for our edgy web friends. Sleepytime 01:49 here
- Ru Viljoen
I imagine you and the rest of the FF gang are stinging a bit (perhaps you didn't expect the backlash to be as... well, passionate as it was?) but, in my experience, trust is something that has to be earned and it's usually something I only give to people I know personally. Generous trust has almost always repaid me negatively so I'm loathe to just hand it out. I'm a cynical, old, cranky...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
I have a long held belief that trust is something meant to be earned, not something you are entitled to from the start, and once shattered it is difficult, but not impossible, to regain. And Trust travels with a companion called Respect. They are 2 sides of the same coin.
- April Russo (app103)
Wow Akiva!! 'monster off the leash'. I feel your hurt emotions, really deep!
- Myrna
Eh, I've entered into the acceptance stage. Things are as they are.
- Akiva Moskovitz
My response was you are worth way more than 50M!
- E-Advocate Network
WAYYYYY MORE (than 50M)!!
- Chris Myles
life is better when you trust in others.
- amelia arapoff
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