Edmund Tay - Likes - FriendFeed

That poor cat looks so confused. - Georgie Bestie

but it's so warm on top of the scanner! - DJF

Time for a cat scan! - Jemm

Iz I the right way up for printing? - Vicky

This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws. - Soup in a TARDIS

LOL, Soup! - Kol Tregaskes

that is one adorable kitten! - Anna Lynn M.

<3 - Furkan Tunalı

Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out... - Greg Lato

Kitty!!!! - Janice

keep trying! - Morgan

FEED ME A CAT - tehKenny

Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying. - Steven Perez

Push harder - Josh Haley

LOL@Jemm - AJ Batac :)

آخی - یک بابک

Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

1 closer....hilarious! - Jeffrey Marsh

There we go 150 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez.... - Stephanie Segel

thanks, i needed a laugh - chaz2b

FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED - Karl Knechtel

iz dat some copycat? - bora "head" basman

LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer! - Threepwood

Just one more like... please. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's over two huuunddreeeed - bora "head" basman

MOAR! - Pat Hawks

I need 9 copies please ! - Faraz Mullick

A cute cat :) - Mohammad Abdurraafay

Haha, Faráz. - Kol Tregaskes

Next target, 250 likes. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Friendfeed loev faxcat :o - Karl Knechtel

;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Pussy by fax. What will they think of next? - Mattb4rd

X)) - Neya

OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic. - Alistair (alpinefolk)

You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!! - Kol Tregaskes

Kol, this thread is pure genius. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

But only almost 50 comments.. :) - Simon Wicks

Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate! - Ivan Zuzak

Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

there we go then for the 1500+!! - Jaap Willem

1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers. - Simon Wicks

Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy! - Kol Tregaskes

Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again. - Jason (not an Argonaut)

I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder - anna sauce

Hehe, Anna. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P - Richard A.

I'd like again if I could :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

bump - Simon Wicks

Richard, LOL! - Kol Tregaskes

Awesomely funny! - Martha

Next target: 400 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

theres one more for you Kol - Toby Graham

Toby, you're very kind. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Cute *_* - Sybelle

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

can you spare a cat 6 likes? - Jason (not an Argonaut)

sweet - Eric Hofmann

Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT. - Mike Nayyar

Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Awesome. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

this is underfaksink at its worzt - pb:

Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" .. - pb:

Ah, OK, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :] - pb:

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

433 Like ! Wow ! - Like

Freemor, yes very cute! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

cute~ - Chan Pen

that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax. - Phil Maxwell

oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink - pb:

Just 5 more likes needed. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Fax, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test) - Iphigenie

Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes). - Roberto Bonini

I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little - SteVe C

Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

They fax much better if you flatten them first. What? - The original Kevin

LOL, Kevin. - Kol Tregaskes

i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm - Iphigenie

Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED! - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Countdown! 8 more now! - Mike Nayyar

bump for more likes - Josh Haley

bump - Roberto Bonini

One more!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I took mine away, too much pressure. - SteVe C

Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that. - Georgie Bestie

меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот - Парадокс Смейла

Kendra, absolutely. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all! - Kol Tregaskes

did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

wish I could double like! - metalerik

Wish I could just like it at all. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-) - Kol Tregaskes

But it's a cat being crushed... - Richard A.

برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟ - نصرآبادی

Hehe, Richard. - Kol Tregaskes

copy cat - gibilix

518 like! most liked post? - Lu Tao

ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :)) - Arzu

Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

*bump* - Andre

Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!! - Kol Tregaskes

So we know how many people use this site. - Richard A.

So that's what Paws Printing means. - Jack&Cleo

Richard, we getting there. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Jack, hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

this thread is making history. - vijay

Indeed .. this is a most epic thread - Mattb4rd

Hehe. 9 more for 550! - Kol Tregaskes

8... - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

7. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this" - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get??? - Roberto Bonini

Gosh, no idea. - Kol Tregaskes

take some bets then come back in a year to check? - Iphigenie

:) - SokooteDel

Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes! - Mattb4rd

552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

560! - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

And back down to 559. Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo? - Susan Beebe

I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat! - Rich

Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

564! - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken - Jason (not an Argonaut)

maybe a good way to clone cats :) - Roberto

Hehe, Roberto. - Kol Tregaskes

This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!? - Kol Tregaskes

It could! Keep bumping it up! - imabonehead

It will :) - Roberto Bonini

My next cat post: http://beta.friendfeed.com/the-fun... - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-) - j1m

No yet. Close though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Stuck on 581. - Kol Tregaskes

One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-) - John Collis

Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John. - Kol Tregaskes

ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی - Maryaminaa

11 more to 600. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟ - Exir

هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D - Shayan

Hehe, 6 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600 - Josh Haley

Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's 598+3, at the moment ;-) - Andre

There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!! - Kol Tregaskes

3 people un liked :( - Roberto Bonini

I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well. - Kol Tregaskes

too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;) - Jason (not an Argonaut)

Haha, Jason. - Kol Tregaskes

614!!!!! - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

Whoa! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)] - pb:

Petr, who's he? - Kol Tregaskes

omg, this post passed 600 likes! - imabonehead

@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there .. - pb:

I see. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Day 11 and this thing's still going! - Phil Maxwell

Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-) - Willem (@wim66) ☠

whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible - Megan Craig

Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry! - Jérôme

Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography? - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-) - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

this makes me laugh every darn time I see it - Stephanie•CogSciLibrarian

Who is this NShawnFW? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

kitties do like to find new spots to nap :) - Maryam

LOL, now over 650 likes. - Kol Tregaskes

این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟ - Maryaminaa

Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol? - Roberto Bonini

Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :) - Maryaminaa

Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

lol - Maryaminaa

I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture - Kevin J Hatton

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE. - WYRD 101

Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead - Mattb4rd

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

10 more likes for 700! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

7 more by my count! - Bec Rowe @d0tski

Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy? - aerobroken

It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or... - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not so bad huh? \u) - Zu from AOD

Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-) - Rick Cogley

Must try this at home! - Anthony K. Valley ©

Bumping some old great posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Now THAT is a classic! - Allan Besselink

you have to flatten it first!!! ;) - Neda S.

This is very good humor! - TrafficBug

Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

just a couple thousand to go - Jason (not an Argonaut)

LOL - Smeerch

__awesome__ - scotu ._.,

and it got resurrected once again! - Iphigenie

I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy. - Seth Greenblatt

Bump. - Kol Tregaskes

ahahahahaha salaaa baaaaaakkkkkk - missipipi

I'm so glad this thread has been revived. The cat in the fax machine never fails to delight. - Michelle Jones

aha! 700 kişi zorla kapağın altına tepilen kediyi beğenmiş - Siminya

I've heard of cheap paper but this is ridiculous!! - Neda S.

Copy the cat - Alyn William

And there I was thinking this was the most liked post on FriendFeed. Darn, just 3rd. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Just 100 more likes to go. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Missed this the first time around. - John (bird whisperer)

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, over 700 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

715 likes and counting. - Kol Tregaskes

Fax Yeah! - Playing Well with Others

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

who revived that one? - Iphigenie

Me, sorry. - Kol Tregaskes

Just 40 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

all right let's do it... - Iphigenie

Love this one! - Fossil Huntress

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

#aaaf - Ali Oz

I agree with this fully. - Akiva

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I can't imagine that the terms of the acquisition would permit this to happen. Oh, wait... Facebook take FriendFeed open source? Maybe in two or three years after they squeeze every bit of life out of it, ala Google/Jaiku - Ken Sheppardson

Would that mean there would be dozens of Friendfeeds all trying to get us to come to them? - Mark

I support this fully - Ryan

yes what about a free GAE - abdellah

Oh I agree. But with Facebook's record? HAHAH! Oh god, I need a mint. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

I'll file this away under "Never Gonna Happen"... - Andrew Terry

Jaiku is not dead. It was bought for a reason, and yes, it will resurface soon. you just wait n see. - binmugahid

yes - andy brudtkuhl

I agree with Andrew... - Suril Amin

I don't think I'd pay, but I'd love to have it open source - Jake Anderson

Worked for AOL. We got Mozilla and they got a much improved Netscape. - Leo Laporte

Leo, I think you have a little too much "hope" on this. Maybe you're just thinking if Facebook was smart, then they'd do that. - Mark

Facebook is much smarter than you're giving them credit for. I think. - Leo Laporte

great idea Leo, i'm 'cautiously optimistic' at this point in time about the future of FriendFeed... lets hope for the best people - Chris Heath

There is no value in that to them. Why open source something that give them a competitive edge. - binmugahid

I do not agree. It destroyed netscape. let Facebook use the best features of FriendFeed in it. Keep the talent like the four ex-google founders. Open source is not the answer to everything. sometimes Closed Source is better for the users as well. Just keep the innovations coming and it will be fine - hasanahmad

They've got the Friendfeed team. That's probably what they really wanted. Getting the open source community working on the FF codebase and contributing it back to Facebook is a win for everyone. - Leo Laporte

On the other hand, I ike to see Laconica (identi.ca) getting more like ff. - Chanux

Wow did this just happen today? - bravestface

yesterday - Chris Heath

Open-sourcing Communicator may have ultimately destroyed Netscape as a brand but without that move, I suspect we'd all still be developing for IE6. Great call, Leo. - Jared Smith

Excellent idea Leo. - Arawak

I just can't stand Facebook. To many people I let in from my youth that I don;t want to see - bravestface

Yes. - .LAG liked that

You're assuming that Facebook bought the company JUST to get the developers, and not because they want to integrate many/most of the features into their service. If they want the features, they don't want a bunch of clones competing with them. - Joel Bennett

I'll send you a hefty donation for that Leo. - JCunwired

bravestface: That's not FB's fault you let them in. sheesh. - Gus

when will twitter be back up any 1 know - daveccorey

There already is an open source clone of twitter - see identi.ca and laconia or whatever it's called - Doug Holton

True. very True Gus. My own fault. Perhaps I need to setup an Alias account that encompasses what i really want - bravestface

I already run a Laconica server at http://army.twit.tv - I don't think we need another Twitter clone. We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer. - Leo Laporte

hay hay hay, sin duda un tema un tanto escabrozo, pero entre Facebook y Google, esto no lleva a nada bueno.. i'ts a hard theme, no doubt about that, but between facebook and google we are going to hell !!!!!! - Đoи яамoη

Or Pushbutton? - bravestface

This would be amazing. - Adam Teece

The Wave *protocal* might be a part of the answer... or just giving yourself over to whatever Google wants you to use might work (i.e. Wave, Reader, Gtalk, etc.)... but I don't really see Wave asdirect 1-for-1 FF replacement. - Ken Sheppardson

Too many systems in place - bravestface

They open sourced the Facebook code base (fbopen)... the license is very restrictive, however. FB owns all code modifications. Probably be the same license for FF. - Kurt

In know people that have replaced their email with Twitter....that just isn't right...we need one locator that many systems can reach - bravestface

Great idea Leo. Now let's see what they do, if they're listening. - Kelly Mitchell

Leo - your last comment is why I think Facebook bought Friendfeed: "We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer." This is going to be a product they will launch in opposition of Google Wave. It will surface Q1 of 2010 and will have some of the same features that Wave has - but be closed sourced to Facebook. - Jeff Vreeland

I see what you mean. Facebook and Google though don't really open source their web apps - Doug Holton

Facebook doesn't seem to have a good reputation with those kind of thing. Facebook promised to open their chat/IM system via XMPP. More than a year has passed since they announced this XMPP system it still did not happen. We still have to rely on screen-scraping methods to implement Facebook chat on third-party IM systems (like the 3rd party Facebook chat plugin for pidgin called pidgin-facebook). - Gideon Guillen

I would love to see friendfeed become opensource. Mostly as a developer I would love to see the code. See how friendfeed works. - mikemcmullan

An "open FriendFeed" could be Facebook's chance to get something lined up to compete with Google Wave. Without it, Google and Twitter are going to own the real-time communication space. - Derek Gathright

Completly agree! - Jamie-Lee Mclean-Davis from Nambu

Open source is the way to so that "The poeple" can do what they want or to a program. E.I. www.Openssourcemaps.com - D Lets from iPhone

Absolutely. - Ian Littman

OS FF would be awesome, but making it a federated service is an entirely different ball of wax. Just ask the Wave guys. They said during the original IO presentation that federation was one of the harder parts (though FF would be easier w/o the real time editing piece, but still). - Patrick Sullivan

OS FF - Malcolm Bastien

I think a integrated RSS/FB/FF/GW/Twitter client will be an interesting real time inflection point - Jim Posner

I totally agree Leo. I can't help but think that this deal is going to be a massive success or a massive flop - nothing in the middle! It's simple things like opening the FF source that can help make it a massive success IMHO. - Chris Cathcart

correction: Http://www.openstreetmap.org - D Lets from iPhone

I would just like to see the real-time commenting open-sourced. - patrick

wow Leo you sure know how to get a topic started - Joe Geeting

I actually was hoping Twitter would be the one to grab it up. Seems like a natural progression for Twitter to make. I just hope Facebook doesn't bury it and they actually use it. As far as open source it? Could be interesting. - Michael Bower

In a secure and closed environment it could be a powerful communication/collaboration tool for businesses. Features of a chat, but persistent. Ability to share photos & files... - Ken Bauer

definently - Ryan Peach

Right-o - Myrddin Emrys

I would love for this to happen. Federated Friendfeed servers would be quite fun and is the logical step for a great Internet service which aggregates disparate information from all over. - rob friedman

You know what, Jaiku was open sourced. And nobody uses it anymore. The fact that "it" (FB open sourcing FF) will happen or not is completely irrelevant. Because you will all be hopping on the next early adopter miracle train (read:service) anyway. So stop whining and move on. Federated this, federated that. identi.ca tried that. Again, no users. It's nice to talk the talk. Especially at times like this. You just gotta walk the darn walk afterwards. Which people usually forget to do. - Vlad Bobleanta

Whoa... you should enhance your calm. Communities are finicky things and sources like Microsoft that are poo-pooing Open Source IMHO is the real problem. Me thinks that a better source of education to dissipate the FUD floating in the global porcelain bowel instead of modern political tactics are are needed to solve real problems. - Myrddin Emrys

Leo, like this idea. - Kol Tregaskes

adoption of open standards such as OMB, which is used by laconica, would allow federation among servers - Mike Chelen

It will one hell of a start, I doubt it though... - Dobromir Hadzhiev

It would be a good thing, but not sure it it will ever happen - Thomas Lee

I support this as well. - Carlos Ayala

Now this is something I would fly out to support at the launch... - Johnny

Another reason why Leo kicks ass - Mo Kargas

If FriendFeed went open source identi.ca / lamonica would be dealt a serious blow. FriendFeed could become even more powerful if the people could tinker with the code and add many features that remain missing, or strengthen features that currently are weak. It will be interesting to se how FB utilizes their newest acquisition... - Randy Shapiro

FYI, there's already an open source alternative: http://www.fftogo.com/e... - Marcos Marado from fftogo

absolutley ;) - Kenneth Reitz

i would pay - cheapsuits

ive all ready got a amp for 5 bucks 4 twitter that was suspsose to help twitter run better guess what it dont - daveccorey

no definitely not. it would shift everything to Chinese government... Damn, millions would have their rest life in prisons. - xia

http://kennethreitz.com/blog... - Kenneth Reitz

Any chance we'll see more code? - Ken Sheppardson

i'm willing to wait to see what F8 brings... have you seen Jesse Stay's speculative post Ken? - Chris Heath

Liked mainly for the pictures. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

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True. Posted for the pictures. Unfortunately, being #6 meant no picture. :) - Louis Gray

I would have put you in the top 3, again for the picture mainly. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

I wouldn't change the rankings. I would just extend pictures beyond 3. :) - Louis Gray

They're pants (the pictures) make them look like old people.. I mean the Pants worn high up.. all they need is suspenders. - Matt Ruiz

Scoble looks taller in his picture :-) - Paul W. Homer

Louis - can't believe I'm right there behind you on this list. And yeah, how about more pics?!! - Hutch Carpenter

who does these little characters??? - Tdubya

Their wives. #instantrimshot - Louis Gray

Bummer, didn't make that list :) I'm OK...no really I'm OK <grin> - Owen Greaves

congrats Louis and Hutch - I'll sign a petition to get them to do more caricatures. - Stuart Miniman

Thanks Stu. And I'm already a caricature anyway... - Hutch Carpenter

ok, ok, who created these 3 avatars? - Tdubya

The The illustrations for the top 3 category leaders are provided by Happy Worker, a creative agency that makes custom action figures and custom toys. http://www.happyworker.com/ - Louis Gray

Wow, very honored. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Glad to see Hutch, Pirillo and Louis on there too! - Mo Kargas

Again, liked for the artist's renditions. - Micah

Think Scoble should immediately adopt this as his avatar. Pretty neat list (also not a bad marketing vehicle if people use the badge :) - Charlie Anzman

I sencond that. Avatar WIN!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

Does Scoble really wear his pants like that? Hah! - wiredgnome

Amir, everybody on that list wears their pants like that. Are you saying you don't? - Louis Gray

Lous: No I don't wear my pants like that. And right now I'm wearing shorts. I just have never seen Scoble where his pants like that. :-) - wiredgnome

Number 6! Movin' on up! - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

liking for the pics!! - BEX

Congrats !!!!! and yes i love the pics LOL :) - Susan Beebe

hey forget Pano use http://www.autostitch.net! best panorama maker ever - FullSite

Night camera app looks interesting. - Chuck Kahn from iPhone

Nice, this will come in handy with the new iPhone 3GS. - wiredgnome

lol - Anna Haro

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Yeah, but it's Generation X's fault that we have to look at all those "Y"s... We(they?) started it. (I get a little confused. I'm 30, so which side of the fence am I really on?) - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

:D I saw one of those today :P - comix aka martha

ewwww - Shey

Kamilah, I'm in the same boat. 31, and every definition says I fall between the X and Y cracks. Which, in light of this post, kinda grosses me out. - FFing Enigma

LOLZ Tina. I guess it's the shadow effect of my parents being a little too young to be true Boomers. I'm a little too young to be Gen X - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

Just missing a strange looking tattoo and you're there Shey - Charlie Anzman

:) why y? - FlyMeToTheMoon from email

I thought Gen-Xers were older than Ys? - Shey

Yes, Shey, what made you think otherwise? - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Andrew Trinh

According to that, I'm officially an Xer. Once again, I apologize on behalf of this entire generation for the saggy pants that refuse to go away. We though it was cute. Fun. Temporary. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

I'm Generation Y. But my butt-crack is firmly concealed. Unless I'm at home... - Shey

@Andrew Thanks your link - FlyMeToTheMoon from email

ahahahah - Susan Beebe

darn kids...pull your britches up!!!! - Stephanie Segel

lol true - Will Higgins™

D: - yasin ghasemi

XA x3 - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Hahaha! - Anne Bouey

I would hate to see Generation - ( )X( ) - Adam Helweh

lol@Adam - Shey

heehee - AJ Batac :)

My co-worker to a T...or Y. - Jack&Cleo

Lol, this picture really describe our generation lol - Moon

@Kamilah oops, I misunderstood what you were saying. Yes, you're right -- it's totally Gen X's fault. - Shey

lol,,, - Ashanti

I don't want to see the other side of that… - Daniel Schildt

If you’re a power blogger, or someone who blogs regularly, across multiple blogs, with detailed, in-depth posts, a desktop blog editor can make your life infinitely easier. At least when it comes to the blogging aspect of it. There are a lot of blog editors out there. Some are browser-based, some are standalone. Some work across different platforms while others are only for Windows or Mac OSX. Some are paid while others are free. The main thing they all have in common, though, is their ability to streamline your blogging process. Below are more than 20 great desktop blog editors. There are options for every budget and every platform. Some even let you blog without blogging software. - Sasha Kovaliov from Bookmarklet

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А вообще нафига придумали кросспостинг когда и так у друг друга тырят новости?:) - Adham Kurbanov

ась? - Sasha Kovaliov

i mozhno li postovat v multiple blogov? spasibo : - pb:

I use Windows Live Writer (free) for my blog on blogger.com (blog.amygeek.com). - amygeek

At the risk of sounding wacky I use the blogging and markdown plugins in textmate - Sean Reiser

LiveWriter..indispensable - George Dearing

Windows Live Writer. Even on a Mac - run it in a VM. - Patrick Jordan

Another vote for LiveWriter. Great app. - Keith - @tsudo

I used LiveWriter and loved it on PC. On the Mac, I'm using MarsEdit now, and it's also fantastic, though not free. - Jandy

Blogo is also a good Mac option, but WLW still my favorite by a long way. - Patrick Jordan

ScribeFire, since I'm on Mac I'm using Ecto and MacJournal too - Alfonso Pace

Windows Live Writer FTW - LANjackal

wow is right. - vijay

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Must've been Clint's brother - separated at birth - Capn' One Eye - adrift

Reminds me of the guy from Seinfeld. "IT'S GO TIME!" - Mike Smith

liking the " yeah? want a piece of me? " look he's giving. - vijay

That is beyond badass - particularly when you consider that the guy has to tell people that an old man totally kicked his ass. - Brett Kelly

...say hello to my little friend? - Joshua Schnell

Ass. Whooped. - Derrick

Pwnd! - Susan Beebe

You do not mess with old man strength - Will Higgins™

The judge said the punk 'got what he deserved'. GOD BLESS THE UK. Also the punk said he 'didn't remember what happened'. Of course he didn't, he got KNOCKED THE F*CK OUT. - Will Higgins™

I imagine him standing over a bruised and bloody burglar saying "get off my lawn." The picture in my head is pretty epic. - Aaron Hood

Sorry, I got a little excited by how awesome this story is. The guy kinda does look like Clint, doesn't he? - Will Higgins™

"The Price is Right, bitch!" - Anika

Will - yep, he does have the classic Clint Eastwood look goin' on... "feel lucky punk? well, do ya?!" - Susan Beebe

lmao thats wat he gets for targeting an older person well done - eric

Bit of Sean Connery about him: "You must never hesitate." Well done. "You're the man now, dog." - Melanie Reed

way to deliver the beatdown! old dude shoulda feckin' made the kid's eyes match. - Joe The Sausage

I want to party with this guy. The old dude, I mean. :) - Hookuh Tinypants

Wow! Good for him.....I'm with Dead Silence! - Bonnie Foster

NIIIIIIICE! - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Good! - Mo Kargas

the retired boxer "caressed" the burglar very efficiently :) - Besim Dönmez

Do ya feel lucky punk? Well do ya? - Tony C (Unrated)

Instead of like, can I love this article? - Kreg Steppe

The authorities should stick this on lamposts - Bill Masson

Hang it up in what ever jail dining hall the Ass Whoopee is going to be doing his 30 days in. - Tony C (Unrated) from fftogo

I just love it when a bad guy gets this shit beat out of him. - Joey Gibson

love it! the old man is like, "how about I teach you a lesson, punk!" - Phil Maxwell

Justice baby - Chris Jackson

@Earl - he got 4.5 years for aggravated assault! - Daniel J. Pritchett

Owned! Wow! - Rick Cogley

A big virtual pat on the back there eh... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

LOL Awesome! I wanna grow up to be just like him ;) - Paul OFlaherty

This made me smile, how awesome this little fart got what he was due. How dare he pick on the elderly and how wonderful the elderly did rearranging some youthful behavior. - Janet-The Bottley Crue

He got 4 and 1/2 years in prison along with the beat down. - Brent - Yes I am

Ouch. he got rearranged alright. - Vicarbott

OMG this made the top of the FF "Best of day" ... LOL - Susan Beebe

I love that the judge said he got what he deserved. Seriously, more older people should be this strong. Awesome. - Rick Cogley

awesome! - AJ Batac :)

That is why you finish the job here in the US and then place a pointy object in the assailants hand. More mess but less litigation. Odd how blind lady justice can be. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Ouch… :S - Daniel Schildt

Good Job Sir. He got what he asked for! - Usman Bashir

Here at the office, we use it to forward all of our mercurial changelog emails, server push notifications, etc to a private group. That way, we all see what's going on in real-time (thanks to the notifier: http://friendfeed.com/setting...), and can easily discuss them from the FriendFeed interface. To add a secret email address, click on "Import a service" in the "settings" dialog of any group. For regular posting, you should continue to use the normal email interface though (share@friendfeed.com or groupname@friendfeed.com, see http://friendfeed.com/share... for details). Thanks to Tudor for writing and launching this! - Paul Buchheit

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Shhh! This is very sekret! - Andrew Trinh

Interesting. My secret FriendFeed toy. - phil baumann

I'm in my Private Group, but for the life of me I cannot find this option. Wouldn't it be under Edit Settings? - Nick in Manila

Ah. NOW I see it. - Nick in Manila

I am loving this feature idea... Very savvy for business use. Thanks! - Susan Beebe

Matthew: No. Your home feed only shows things that you're subscribed to. Of course, if you're a member of a group whose admin allows anonymous posting, and you have that group on your home feed, then the anonymous posts will show up there -- but then, you can always leave the group or remove it from your home feed. - Tudor Bosman

oh this is genius. there's so many use cases that can leverage this. platform +1 - Sameer

Groups already allow "anonymous" posts -- if you (as an admin) add a service to a group, posts originating from that service will show as belonging to the room, not to any particular user. You can think of anonymous posts (whether imported from RSS services, or posted by email) as being the responsibility of the group admins -- it's their job to police them if they deem necessary. - Tudor Bosman

I see this working for the Confessions room. What else? - Josh Haley

Sounds like the email can be sent from any arbitrary email address, not necessarily one registered with FriendFeed for an account? So the secret really needs to be kept secret to valid potential posters only. - Tinfoil 2.0

Logical Extremes: Yes, that is the point; it doesn't matter what address you send *from*. Sometimes you can't control the address that mail gets sent from. A few examples: your datacenter can notify you by email of any problems affecting your servers, but you'd prefer these notifications to go to a FriendFeed group. You are subscribed to a low-volume distribution list, but you'd rather... more... - Tudor Bosman

Paul has explained how we use this feature internally at FriendFeed. If one of us checks in a change (we use Mercurial for source control), Mercurial sends an email to a secret email address for a private group (that all FF engineers are subscribed to); the others see the change immediately, and we can discuss it in comments. - Tudor Bosman

Cool! Very useful for room owners. If you don't have instructions, it's very hard to find. "Sekret" - AJ Batac :)

LD: I don't understand. To which of my examples are you referring? - Tudor Bosman

Oh yeah. Laughing uncontrollably. WOW. - Webferret

It sounds like a pro-spam feature. Have you thought through all the consequences? - Tim Tyler

Tim: the group admins should keep the address secret and only share it with trusted services. If the address gets leaked, then the group can get spammed, in which case the group admins can delete it or change it (which prevents all future mail to the old address from being posted to the group). We believe it to be reasonably secure, but please let us know if you notice any problems. - Tudor Bosman

Matthew: :) - Tudor Bosman

Tudor, you said: "posts originating from that service will show as belonging to the room, not to any particular user". But the posts /do/ show up as belonging to the admin user in a _search result_. - Ahsan Ali

Ahsan, that's a bug that already existed with how searches handle imported content in groups (not specific to this release and already on our list, thanks). - Dan Hsiao

LD: You're right, you can't reply from within FriendFeed. You could have the contact form send email to both the internal group and a regular email address, which you can then use to send a reply. - Tudor Bosman

Tudor: btw. regarding mercurial, what's your experience using mercurial in friendfeed vs perforce in google? - Amund Tveit

Tudor - what I really like is the business use cases you're laying out here, including your own internal engineering ones. Good stuff, as my e2.0 buddy Sameer above says. - Hutch Carpenter

using this feature to post blog uptime statistics for several blog to blog owners - Jeroen De Miranda

Its a good feeling when you know that the people behind a certain product know what there doing. Dont we FF Team? - Webferret

Use case? How can one use the best readily filtering system available (Gmail filters) with best of breed group collaboration (Friendfeed). This is GOING to become the best in its class. I can drop so many business tools(that i pay for) for just FF Private rooms - Webferret

Already is Webferret, already is... - Chris Heath

sweet - D Lets

Turn Gmail Into Your Personal Nerve Center http://www.micropersuasion.com/2007... - Webferret

Amund: Mercurial works. We use it in a mostly-centralized setup (one central repo that we sync to very often). Can't really compare performance -- our repositories are tiny compared to Google's. We can take this offline if you'd like to discuss this in more detail. - Tudor Bosman

That's a great add-on. Slowly, FF is going to be our "life center" - Özkan Altuner

So this is kinda like when you posted the "advert"? :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Kol: not quite; the "shameless self-promotion" showed up as an entry in your home feed, without any user (or group) name attached to it. Entries imported into a room (via RSS or via email) show up as being in that room. - Tudor Bosman

OK, Tudor. I'll give it a test later. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

This is a cool idea, but it only seems to import the mail subject title only. Is that right, if so, how do we get the content of the mail in, or is it not meant to do that? - Keith Bennett from BuddyFeed

Keith: it works for me. The subject goes in the main post (FF thread title?) and the message appears as a comment to the thread. Maybe you are sending an HTML e-mail? - alieb

Cheers alieb, I just tested it by forwarding the first mail in my inbox and that didn't show anything up. Creating a mail and adding some text to the mail body works correctly. Thanks for the help. - Keith Bennett

I just figured out a new use for this feature and it goes in line with Kevin Rose's idea for an Open Source security system. http://www.facebook.com/video... He was talking about having a neighborhood watch like program. Well each neighborhood can have a private room here in FF. If someone tripped an alarm in your house, it would send an email to the secret email for the private group and everyone in the group could be notified via email,IM,SMS,etc. - BRҰANSAҰS

I think this secret address should be reminded somewhere in each group settings window. - Zackatoustra

@Bryan Lee. shhhh lol - Webferret

Zacaktoustra: group admins will see the address in the "services" window (click "add/edit" under Services in the settings dialog). Other group members will only see the words "secret email address", as, well, the address is supposed to be secret and only visible to admins. - Tudor Bosman

could we have this for home feeds as well? some 3rd party messaging services will send from various addresses. great feature, thanks! - Mike Chelen

I'm blonde so maybe need to tell you what I'd like to do and see if it works: I would like to have my ATT mail, my Yahoo mail AND my gmail all feed into a FF room so I could read it all at the same time (ATT and Yahoo are partnered so you can't sign into both at the same time. Both go through Yahoo's sign in page.) Is this possible to create? Having ATT and Yahoo feed into my Gmail through FF would be okay as well, btw. I get FF feeds through GMail already. - Molly

Molly, what you're asking for is totally unrelated to this thread. If i was you I would set up gmail to receive the mail from your other email addresses. It's a bit complicated but can be done. Try reading this lifehacker gmail article first: http://lifehacker.com/374610... - Chris Heath

Well said Heath - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Heath, thanks. I told you I'm blonde. :-P I tried your suggestion already and so far haven't been able to hook ATT and Yahoo to my Gmail (both being POP accounts) w/o paying extra. Will work on it again later. It's not THAT much trouble to check all three accounts from different sources. - Molly from email

Molly, another option (if att offers it - i know yahoo does) is to set up forwarding so the email is automatically forwarded from ATT and Yahoo to your gmail address. Then once in gmail you can use filtering (by the to: field) to separate out the emails - Chris Heath

I think that's the paid service from Yahoo. At least it was when I investigated it a few months ago. Thanks for thinking about it for me, though. Us techblondes need all the help we can get re: setting stuff up. I'm kind of on hold right now anyway (trying to recover my domain name and identity....... long story and boring to all but me). Molly - Molly from email

Wow! This is awesome! Thanks. - Svartling

cool neat improvements, gotta like this shit. - Dorothy Mercredi

Pricing: SNow Leopard of $29 - Anthony Ha

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That's for Leopard users - Anthony Ha

uh! - alieb

$49 family pack - Anthony Ha

AWESOME! - jnman

Not $129? Sweet. - DGentry

Snow Leopard available this September. - Anthony Ha

afront to Microsoft :-) - olafzanger

$29 = sure upgrade - Parth Awasthi

Near-final developer preview available today. - Anthony Ha

All that cheering was for "$29"?! - Ken Sheppardson

@Ken Yes. - Anthony Ha

yeah and cool price! - Luca Filigheddu

$29 means developers can count on their users having it. That's worth a cheer in a room full of developers. - Kevin Fox

What's the price for non-Leopard users? And PowerPC? - Ian Betteridge

@Ian They didn't say. - Anthony Ha

@Ian INTEL only. PPC is dead. - Jamie

It's likely $129, as it's replacing Leopard. I don't know if it's really worth even $30 for Leopard users: what's the wow factor? - Mark Trapp

They haven't been offering upgrade prices for MacOS X until now, every release has been a full-price upgrade. Having done it for 10.6, it would be very difficult for Apple to make future upgrades be full-price. So the developers cheering was possibly not so much for the $29 price as that Apple has permanently removed one barrier which kept users on older releases. - DGentry

DGentry: I don't think there's much precedent being set. 10.0 -> 10.1 was free, and there were discounted point releases throughout the Classic lifespan. They could just as easily bump the price back up to $129 for 10.7 and justify it by saying "but look at all the feature's we're including, it's like a whole new OS, and it's still cheaper than Windows!" - Mark Trapp

I'd forgotten the 10.0 -> 10.1 upgrade, but not many users were on the platform then. I suppose you're right that Apple could raise the price right back to where it was, but it still seems like a reason for developers to be hopeful they won't have to worry quite so much about supporting older releases. - DGentry

I'm glad Snow Leopard will be available for USD 29. That seems like a fair price. - Rick Cogley

Good list. Sleep Display is on there twice though and you can actually accomplish the same that as Sleep Display does with the built-in ctrl+shift+eject, which instantly puts your monitor to sleep. - Antoniu

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Thanks 321, I updated the list. Didn't even notice I did that. LOL :) - TheHenry

good list - apptacious

1Password is a "must have" - Jeff Jensen

Can't believe you've missed QuickSilver, can I also add Nambu too. - Keith Bennett

A very useful list - thanks for sharing, but, no love for Little Snitch or Evernote? :) - Andrew Terry

wtf? o_o - vijay

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wow is this for real? - zsafwan 

Amsterdam has some high download speeds - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

Virgin Media in the UK have just been testing their 200MB service this week as well. - Mark H

<jaw drop> - caj needs a haircut

Crazy fast! - Michael Fidler

wow! what's up with the upload though? - Phil Maxwell

I've experienced some super download speed for a couple of weeks while my ISP was installing "Fiber Power" . My current average download speed is a measly 10 Mbps ;-) With the occasional peak http://friendfeed.com/got-mem... - Willem (@wim66) ☠

WOW - Bluesun 2600

no fucking way. - Rahul Das

O_o - ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ

How the fuck? - Andrew Trinh

............. I have no words....... - Kim

Anyone else get chills? - MiniMage, enterRUPPted

Yes,me - Roberto Bonini

I...I....I WANT! - ralphsaunders

It's crazy speed! - آدمیرال

i believe that my pc is burned by this speed. :S - Oguz Kaan C Kilinc (okck)

US broadband sucks. - Mark Krynsky

I have a Cannondale that I love (though I'm lame and put road tires on it so I can take it to the post office!). http://www.cannondale.com/bikes... - Marina Martin

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Marin Pine Mountain http://www.marinbikes.com/2009... - Clint

It depends on what you want to do/what sort of riding your going to be doing. Do you want a hard tail(just front suspension) or dual suspension? - Michael Gross

I've owned several Trek's and have been very happy with all of them. - Jeff P. Henderson

Michael: dual suspension. I'm getting old and the softer ride is worth it (I've already tested that out). - Robert Scoble

Michael: I'll be on mostly flat trails, though, but who knows? Even then, though, the dual suspension is something I felt on just street riding and like a lot. - Robert Scoble

I like my Diamondback - a bit heavier than most, but more solid - Jason

Vikrum: are there any Santa Cruz in my price range, though? - Robert Scoble

cannondale is a good bike, Trek also makes some mean mid range bikes, i use this site for info http://www.mtbr.com/ - Adam B

A professional rider today told me that in my price range Specialized and Trek are good to consider. - Robert Scoble

Giant Trance X2. High quality yet affordable. By all means check out Mountain Bike Review (http://www.mtbr.com) for user reviews, trail ratings, discussions, etc. And then sign up so I can say I was on mtbr.com before you. - Sue Radd

Cannondale all the way. Depending on how "mountain" you want. You may want to look at a hybrid. Road tires are so much easier to push. - Hans

Hans: I'm going to be mostly on dirt, but doubt I'll go out in the mud very often, so hybrid might be OK. I like the traction I get with knobby tires, though. - Robert Scoble

I have had a Specialized for almost twenty years. no shox or special suspension but worked great on bumpy Volcano dirt trails near Bend Oregon last summer. - Dave Blockhus

7 pages of them on Craigslist - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search... - John Rubier

Specialized has always been my favorite bike brand - Jesse Stay

I also vote for canondale I have one that is 15+years old and I am a heavy rider (270) in total time owned other then tune ups 2 repairs shifter and BB axle. AWESOME AMERICAN BIKE CO. - zac_in_ak

I do have to say that friendfeed is demonstrating something very killer here: real time product feedback. I'm writing a blog post about this. - Robert Scoble

Yo Dawg, I heard you're looking for a bike. Get a Kona Dawg. http://www.konaworld.com/09_dawg... So you can ride while you ride. Seriously great bikes though. - Andrew Smith

Sorry, but I have to lobby for the Trance, 'cause that's what I ride. (modded earlier model to add disc brakes and a better Fox fork.) :-) http://tinyurl.com/cl4moa - Sue Radd

Chris: so now I have to decide whether to go Cannondale or Trek or Specialized. You all are no help! :-) - Robert Scoble

I would go with the bike that you feel most comfortable on. It is all a matter of preference. Every rider has a different riding style, body type, etc. I own a trek fuel ex8...good all around bike! I've also have two Kona hardtails, which are bomb proof! Visit your local bike shop and let them know your budget, and the type of riding you will be doing. Try as many as you can...once you sit on the bike, you will know in the first 5min. Like an interview! Ha! - nilo ayson

Can't go wrong with Specialized and Trek. Heck, go with Trek to feel some solidarity with Lance! - Troy Malone

I'd recommend a Trek. I've beaten the heck out of those things on the trails, and they just last and ask for more. Seems the 6 series are in your price range http://www.trekbikes.com/us... - Al

It really depends what you want to do. Where do you want to ride? With friends and family around some trails or do you want to do some more serious cross-country or downhill mountain biking. Either way resist getting something with dual suspention in that price range - it's slow & heavy and junky. Kona's a better value and you might want to look at the speedy street/trail friendly DR DEW http://www.konaworld.com/09_drde... or the more KULA http://www.konaworld.com/09_kula... - PS) Live to ride! - Adam Horne

Ask on http://www.hunch.com - Victor Panlilio

I just bought a new Trek 4300. Its a nice cost-for-value solution - they are good for not-yet-professionals, yet hold up nicely even for heavy-set riders (me :)) - Yariv Zur

Victor: why? My friends are here. They aren't on hunch. I trust the people here on friendfeed and Twitter a lot more than on Hunch. - Robert Scoble

Other than Kona, I'd also recommend Rocky Mountain Bikes. Both brands huge here in Whistler. Maybe look at this one http://www.bikes.com/main+en... - Andrew Smith

you said great, now you have to pick between a cannondale, a trek, and a specialized mountain bike. That's not a problem, I actually test road all 3 at the sea otter on thursday and they are all great bike companies. The answer to chose between the three is easy. Go to your local friendly neighborhood bike shop and see which one of the three they carry. - Ilya Rivkin

Look for a Cross Country frame for light trail riding. They're usually lighter and position your body better for longer distances. Dual Suspension often have more aggressive downhill frame geometries. - timmann

You know, given that every single good MTB is going to have some mix of Shimano and SRAM parts, have suspension from a small group of companies, is made in a small selection of factories in Taiwan, etc. I think it's mostly about which one happens to be available at a nice place with non-asshole salesfolk and happens to fit you the best. - Wirehead

Oh, and unless you are in the mud, knobby tire traction is an illusion. I've gone through all sorts of bay area mountain biking trails and not once have I said "Gee, the knob between my legs isn't enough. I need a bunch of knobs on my tires!" But, given that most Hybrids are intended to be riden a maximum of 500 miles before being thrown out, you might just want to get a nice MTB and then change the tires out afterwards. - Wirehead

Ryan: here's th thing about friendfeed, though. If you ask a question and I "like" it, it goes to the same people who would see my own question. So, do you need 90,000 followers or only one follower? - Robert Scoble

Pretty interesting to see how this worked--asking for feedback. I ride a Trek Fuel EX7--probably above the range you set but not by much. My wife bought it for me asking all her mtb friends. She does XTERRA races. She was told and I agree, it was well worth the extra money to step up from the EX 5.5. And as someone said, Lance rides Treks. He road a Top Fuel at last years Leadville 100. - Bob McAllaster

I'd go with either Santa Cruz or Scott, they offer real pro bikes in wide range of levels. Oh, and Robert, I'm so waiting for the video of Scoble Doing Downhill. - Nir Ben Yona

Nir: in the $1,500 level? Trek seems better at that level than the others. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I was riding pro for many years. With bikes, you can put 5 people in a room and hear 10 different opinions. My first advice would be to go and test each one of the models for yourself. Second, is to get the exact size that fits your body (very important). Third, buy the right accessories. Fourth, join a group at your level. Finally, Trek are good, no doubt, but IMHO Scott are better, but yet again, go and ask for a test ride. - Nir Ben Yona

One more thing: if you're planning a trail ride, dual suspension won't be good. Make sure you can lock the rear suspension, otherwise it would take extra energy from you. - Nir Ben Yona

Nir: but it's a lot more comfortable. I tried that out already. - Robert Scoble

Robert: It is ! but if you ride 20 miles of flat trail, the rear suspension will force you to put more effort, that's why you should buy dual suspension with locking option. As for the gears, you won't need XTR, i think that XT will be enough at this point. - Nir Ben Yona

Robert, I took this Giant Anthem 1, some crazy places in the European Alps over 2500km and all I got was one flat. http://is.gd/tpjL http://is.gd/tplp. If you are after a smooth rolling dual suspension with propedal rear shock for 'widish' forest tracks and 'smoothish' single track I think this would be ideal. - Jan Zimak

Robert; a hard question to answer without substantially more information. Generally if you stick with the top brands you will get a good bike but, to get one that is best suited to your riding style and terrain the best approach would be to contact your local mountain bike club and ask which are the most reputable bike shops. the go to 2-3 of them to get their advice/recommendation. Word of warning: unless the sales person wants to know a lot about you, your interests and where/how you ride. walk away. - Wayne Blackshaw

Robert, you definitely want a hard-tail (i.e front suspension only) for flat trail riding. If comfort is an issue, replace the stock saddle with a really good foam-gel-filled model that has a cutaway to reduce pressure on the crotch. Also, padded short/pant liner for added cushioning. Also, I would suggest you get a model with click gear shifters, rather than the twist variety. In my experience, shifting on the fly is much smoother and easier with the click variety. - Phil Essing

Phil: I'll take another look, but I dramatically liked the ones with dual suspension better. - Robert Scoble

Robert: well, then, definitely follow the advice of those who suggest a model with a lockable rear-suspension. My advice on saddle replacement and padded short/pant liners stands. For longer duration riding, rear suspension will do nothing to ease the comfort in the crotch and seat-bone areas. - Phil Essing

Phil: cool. the trail I'll be on most has some up and down, some ruts, 30% asphalt, 70% dirt/gravel. I doubt I'd be riding more than an hour very often. I'm not that kind of guy. Someday, if I really get into it, maybe, but I'm at least two years away from that and probably never. Got two kids, so getting more than an hour for exercise is going to be very tough until they are older. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Sounds like the terrain mix that I mostly ride. One last bit of advice: never ride without an emergency kit. Get a strap on tire pump, and a saddle bag that you can stuff with a multi-tool, two or three tire levers, spare inner-tube, and a pair of latex gloves. Why the gloves? For that inevitable moment when, while shifting, your chain derails. With the gloves, you can quickly get that chain back in place without getting your hands all messed-up with grease. - Phil Essing

Oh, and if you're the DIY type, here's a site you're going to definitely want to bookmark: http://bicycletutor.com/ Lots of great video tutorials on how to maintain and care for your new trusty steed. - Phil Essing

+1 for the tips Phil, I second every word. Another good place to find relevant stuff is here: http://forums.mtbr.com - Nir Ben Yona

Nir Ben Yona: Been lurking on those forums for quite some time. Definitely, another great source of info for the MTB'er. - Phil Essing

Get a double bike trailer and take your two lovelies along for the ride. - Ken Oatman

Love my Gary Fisher. Have had it for 15 years. Indestructible. - Jeff

My top picks are Sta Cruz Blur XC or Giant Trance. You should also look at 29ers (29" wheels instead of 26"). They are all the rage and make riding over obstacles even easier. - Craig Villamor

You have a lot of good feedback so far. I bought a Trek 4300 (hardtail) 5 years ago and love it. Have upgraded almost all the components, but the lightweight aluminum frame is durable and pretty light. If I was in the market for a new full suspension, I'd look at the Trek FuelEX or Gary Fisher full suspension. You might rethink your hardtail/FS decision. You'll get better components for your $ with a hardtail, and less maintenance. If you go FS you may want to up your budget to $1500 to $2000. - Charles Hanskat

I'm a mountain biker, go check out http://pinkbike.com + http://jehlebikes.com + http://www.chainreactioncycles.com ... I would recommend Scott, Santa Cruz, Specialized. - Apostolos Papadopoulos

oh, and i want to see photos on flickr pls :D heh - Apostolos Papadopoulos

Many good choices from Specialized, Trek, Cannondale, etc. The key is getting the proper fit. Go to a decent (not high end) independent bike shop like Valencia Cyclery in SF (valenciacyclery.com). If you join the SF Bike Coalition (sfbike.com), most SF bike shops will give you a discount, too. You can often find a great deal on last year's models, too. Bike to Work Day is May 14th, so now is the time.... - Tony Wasserman

Salcano Bike is good. - N.Onur ATAHAN

Yep...don't even bother with anything other than Santa Cruz. It's what my friend Chris uses and he does 24 hour mountain bike races. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

Have a look at the GT 'Force' series or Gary Fisher 'Roscoe' Series. Opt for full suspension along with clip-less pedals/shoes IMHO. - JR

Robert: I'm in San Mateo and ride Purisima Creek Road (starting from the Skyline Side) pretty frequently. Lots of good riding in MPROSD preserves. DM me if you ever want to ride. I'm slow and non-threatening, I promise. - Sue Radd

What do you want to ride? Bike path, singletrack, doubletrack, downhill, etc... - Chris Greene

Robert, looked at your description of trails and riding conditions above and here's my most sage advice. BUY THE BIKE THAT FITS! - Don - Chris Greene

't listen to anyone that's telling you a model. Go ride some Treks, Specialized, Cannondale whatever features you like and settle on something that fits you and i comfortable. - Chris Greene

I wouldn't go fancy with suspension (front fork will do). And no need for exotic materials until you start racing (stay away from carbon fiber). If you start to pound singletrack the mainline brands (Trek, Spec, Cannon) will all fall apart on you. Buy something with a good kit (Shimano LX, XT), and again be comfortable and nice fitting. You can only decide this by test riding bikes. Don't mistake mountain biking with a mountain bike. - Chris Greene

If you are only going to ride the coastal roads in HMB or bike paths, a mountain bike is not the right way to go. - Chris Greene

- peace out - Chris Greene

Chris: except I have mountain trails all around me. - Robert Scoble

I've never had a bad experience with a Gary Fisher bike. - T-Bone Tsali, FF Cherokee

Robert: I know you do. The question is do you really ride them? If yes, then I think a god hardtail THAT FITS with a nice fork is a good choice for you. If you don't ride them and think you might, I would suggest you start off with something better suited to the stuff you do ride. The range of stuff in HMB can go from easy climbs and bike paths to super gnarly stuff on Montara Mtn. that's the kind of things I've ridden with a 50LB dual suspension bike with 10" of travel. - Chris Greene

Robert: ....my first mtn bike was a aluminum hardtail and was great for a couple of years. When I obsessed about it I upgraded. If I had never gone down the pro road I would have been fine with that simple bike for the rest of my days. The problem was that you can never "make" an expensive or simple bike fit you and it will not be fun. - Chris Greene

I had a Cannondale. Nearly took my eye out mountainbiking and falling over a cactus, so I stopped. - Francine Hardaway

http://bit.ly/10KnjQ - JimmyJet

Just got a new Trek! Love Trek and Giant. - Corey Marthaller from Nambu

forget the mountain bike, buy a euro style bike like the following and ride in normal clothes every day somewhere! Far better to do 1-10km every day than 50km on a sat or sun, I do 10km a day on my swiss bike and am in the best shape ever: http://usa.batavus.com/ http://www.civiacycles.com/civiaco... text me if you need further euro bike buying advice :-) ! …Roland +1 604 729 7924 - Roland Tanglao

Speak to your local bike shop. The support they will provide when things go wrong or you want to upgrade is worthwhile. You can also try the bike which is important. The larger manufacturers can probably get you a better set of components for the money but it will be less unique. Trek, Marin, Specialized are all good in my opinion. How you feel on the bike and the dealer support are more important to a new biker in my opinion, assuming you are fairly new to this? - Andrew Edwards

Robert: Andrew Edwards comment just above is great advice: find a shop you like and trust, the best result will come from that. Also key, and already said: get a bike that fits, from a shop that understands fit. There aren't many bad bikes made anymore, especially in the $1000 and up price range. That said, I work at Specialized, and follow you on twitter, so DM me if you want to talk more. @matthewscd - matthewscd

fookinner - Robert Scoble

Robert: Specialized Stump Jumper. http://tinyurl.com/owcdfw I have bought this bike 2x ( the first one was stolen out of my garage) It is way more than I will ever use as I like to ride around SF and to the North Bay, but have taken it down nutty trail rides in Tahoe as well. It certainly has the "you know your bikes" quality as whenever I take it to get tunes up the gearheads always... more... - Kevin Murray

Well, did you get one??? My advice is similar to a couple others. Work with a local bike shop who works with you to FIT you on a bike. More than anything else, finding a bike and tuning it to your body and riding style will go farther than anything to make it an enjoyable sport. - Dave Ploch

What type of riding do you want to do? XC or downhill. There's a significant difference in bike design and tech between the two. I'm an XC rider myself and rode a Santa Cruz superlight before switching to a KHS 904r. Both are dual suspension. I would highly recommend dual over a hardtail. Superior handling, climbing and comfort on those 100km rides. - Troy Forster

Wow Building 43 really is as big as Area 51! - Jan Simmonds

Cannondale Bay Boy Ultra is what I have. comes with nice road rims and front shock is in the head tube and can be turned on and off and has disc brakes. I bought a separate set of mountain bike rims and they swap on and off easily. Two bikes for the price of 1.5 - Dave Evans

Robert, I spend my whole life thinking about questions like this. The correct answer for you is "Gary Fisher HiFi." And also you need to start reading my blog: fatcyclist.com. - Elden Nelson

$799 Montague Paratrooper used by the Army. http://www.montagueco.com/bikes... - Francis Estrada

so will Cannondale sponsor the discussion? And if they do, won't that undermine the nature and quality of the discussion - andrewkeen

good luck everyone - andrewkeen

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Ironically, the natural solution to camel toe is no longer popular.... - FFing Enigma

@Tina... I may regret this, but what is the "natural solution?" - Joey Gibson

Retaining one's pubic hair. - FFing Enigma

Cuchini likely controls 100% of the market share for this product type assuming of course there is a market. - rob

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O_O - Rochelle

And this is why I have kept my netherbeard. Free cameltoe control. - Hookuh Tinypants

"Netherbeard"! Wow! That's one of the best euphemisms I've ever heard. - Joey Gibson

I kinda like netherbeards. Not sure why people want everything bald... - Rah-PM 2012

Sheen: Bajingos are pretty... I like to be able to see 'em. - Roger Benningfield

Also, I don't like hair in my teeth. - Roger Benningfield

Isn't it just, Joey? I snarfed my coffee first time I heard Amanda call it a netherbeard!!! - FFing Enigma

I also refer to the features hidden beneath the netherbeard as my netherbits (or my ladybits...if I'm feeling demure). I'm all about the nethers. - Hookuh Tinypants

Not sure what to say about this, um, product. - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)

@CW: There actually used to be pix on the internet but they've long since disappeared, AFAIK. @Roger: you run on the assumption that every lady enjoys having a face buried down there. I'd far prefer to give blowjobs than have someone sifting through my netherbeard. Of course, even with a full hedge, there still has to be some general maintenance done. Can't have it all unruly. A nice trim can keep it in check and yet still cover all the appropriate real estate. - Hookuh Tinypants

Your last comment, Amanda, cracks me up!!! LOL!!!! - Lindsay

@Amanda: Oh, I don't assume that at all. I know some who live for it, some who just aren't that clitorally focused and are "meh" about it, and other who occupy positions between those poles. (Dear god that sentence is fraught with unintentional innuendo.) - Roger Benningfield

I'd like to say that "fraught with unintentional innuendo" just jumped to near the top of my favorite phrases list. That said, I'm not sure why I'm reading this thread. - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)

Why the F would we want that to go away??? I mean if your wearing a bikini, chances are I can see your nipples too! - Lokei Atikus™®

@Lokei EPIC COMMENT!!! People should really subscribe to you're brilliant butt!! http://friendfeed.com/lokeiat... - Brad Williamson

Auto-magically adds lyrics to songs in iTunes 5+ from LyricWiki.org. You can choose either a selection of tracks, or the current track. Or turn on “Active Tagging” to get lyrics for songs as you play them. - LouCypher from Bookmarklet

This works like a charm! Now I can sing along all song I like. And play them with the band without resorting to made-up lyrics that sound vaguely the same. - Ruud van Wijngaarden

Show everyone's items that have gotten at least one "Like." http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

More coming shortly. - Robert Scoble

Show everyone's items that have gotten at least one "Comment." http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

Show all Tweets that have gotten at least one "Like": http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

Show all YouTube videos that have gotten at least one "Like" http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

Show all Tweets that have one comment and the term 'peanut butter'. http://friendfeed.com/search... - Lou Paglia

Show all Flickr photos that have gotten at least one "Like" http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

You can do your own "advanced searches" here: http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

Good one Lou! - Robert Scoble

Show all Tweets written by Tim O'Reilly that have gotten one "Like" or more: http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

Show all Google Reader items with at least one "Like": http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

Anyone else have any other cool searches? - Robert Scoble

Robert, thanks these are cool searches! - Susan Beebe

As a librarian...I love when people get excited about search. This is helpful. Thanks. :-) - Kenley Neufeld

Show Bret Taylor's items on 'Facebook' that have at least one comment and one like but also have been commented on by Robert Scoble http://friendfeed.com/search... - Lou Paglia

Show everyone's items that have at least one comment and the term "meme" http://friendfeed.com/search... - Susan Beebe

Since the Web 2.0 Conference/Expo is next week, searching everyone for "Web 2.0" is a good one: http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

Show all items from Steve Gillmor with 'twitter' and 'track' http://friendfeed.com/search... - Ken Sheppardson

Kenley: I love friendfeed's search, because it's live. Really amazing. Just like Twitter's search, but a LOT more to play with, thanks to friendfeed having more metadata (likes and comments) to play with. Plus friendfeed has something like 60 different data types (youtube videos, blogs, tweets, yelps, etc etc). - Robert Scoble

Show everyone's items that have at least one comment and the term "Building 43" http://friendfeed.com/search... - Susan Beebe

Susan: what I love is that just by writing Building 43 in your comment this item shows up in the search. - Robert Scoble

Robert - Yep, I noticed that too! win-win :) - Susan Beebe

That is impressive how quick the comments relay into the search corpus. - Lou Paglia

Hey, Alex! This dude has the same last name as you AND seems to know how to use FriendFeed. How eerie. - Rah-PM 2012

Robert - I have to admit, I've been entirely too busy lately to play around with FF Search... it is super simple and amazingly powerful! wow, no wonder you're liking it so much!! Thanks for the inspiration here. Makes tweetdeck look like playing with crayolas when we've got laser focus search going on over here in FF - Susan Beebe

Tweeky stuff...I'm all in. Thanks!! - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Show all items that mention "bacon" that have at least 20 comments: http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

Robert: I'm using the Firefox add-on to integrate Twitter into my Google searches but I heard recently that Google is doing this now too. Have you noticed/played with searches in Google? It will be interesting to see (and how) if the big boys can adapt to this live environment. - Kenley Neufeld

Show all items with "Alex Scoble" and "Meme" in title: http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble

Show all items that mention the terms 'meme' and 'bacon', have been commented on by both Robert AND Alex Scoble, and have at least one comment and one like http://friendfeed.com/search... - Lou Paglia

Lou get's FF culture very well :) - Susan Beebe

Show all items that mention "LOLcats" http://friendfeed.com/search... - Susan Beebe

Flickr photos "liked" by Robert Scoble with a comment from Louis Gray. http://friendfeed.com/search... - Louis Gray

Can one do a search on the number of threads I've killed? - Rebecca Lasley

Great. Now Can I use this to never see anything from anyone's Twitter ever again? - TranceMist

Trance: no, but you can use "hide" to hide all Tweets. - Robert Scoble

I need to practice my friendfeed search skills. I am still on a 1st grade level. :O - Amani

I regularly use a 10x10 search to see whats new that people like and are talking about. I wish it could stream. http://friendfeed.com/search... - Mike Thibodeau

i would like to search for "increasing likes", "increasing comments" or "exponential growth" or similar ways to pick the activity+like rates. maybe a dayX(likes)/dayY(likes)>0.25 - Mike Thibodeau

If you like the customized searches check out the FF Saved Searches Group....http://beta.friendfeed.com/ffss - Matthew

Thanks for this Robert. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Shows FriendFeeders that have tweeted the phrase, "I live in Florida". http://friendfeed.com/search... - Sharon McPherson

Really excellent. - Michelle McCormack

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White Stripes!! - Michelle McCormack

That is one impressive notebook. Crazy dutch. - Mitch

Amazing! I am envious of this person's creativity. :) - Cheryl Jones

I want one. For real. - phil baumann

Take on Me Noteboek: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - David Newman

If only my notebook started as fast or shutdown as quick! - Shivanand Velmurugan

I like the face scan! :) - dafire

very clever! - Kevin Eklund

Cool! - Tony C

Wow. This one merits a triple-like button. - Eric Johnson

"The reviews are in, and the just-released Ubuntu 9.04, i.e. "Jaunty Jackalope," rates as a slick, fully-formed Linux desktop. Looking to get started or upgrade your system? We're recommending 10 downloads for everyone to try." - Alejandro from Bookmarklet

I should probably read this because I'm vaguely irritated with my domestic partner for putting Ubuntu on our media computer. - joey

I have some work to get done, and plan on rewarding myself with an upgrade to 9.04 when I finish it. - Bruce Lewis

Not sure if this helps make it more clear, but my way to explain it would be XSS meets man in the middle.TC needs to make an apology post to Twitter. - Bret Piatt

That's a great overview of the story, and it makes me really proud of these open communities. Great work all around. The point about there needing to be more folks like Chris Messina and Eran Hammer-Lahav is a great one; people and companies need to grok how valuable they are. - Ken Kennedy

Right on, Ken. - Jay Rosen

Just found out yesterday one of the partners of my company (i.e., my boss's boss) joined Facebook. That's a jump-the-shark moment, right? - Jandy

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That curve is oversimplified. - Richard A.

Richard it's not rocket science you know ;-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

I know, but part of one of my university modules was looking at the adoption curves. ;-). I like when there's more information. Disclaimer: I didn't follow the link.) - Richard A.

Looks like there are few "long term" business opportunities on the fast-evolving Internets. - Francine Hardaway

One gripe: I have issues with Glam making the new comers list. This idea of counting individual sites as a collective outside of advertising purposes is flawed. I run backup ads with GoogleAdsense, yet my numbers aren't counted in Google's total. - Duncan Riley

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