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Mozy says that they will give you unlimited backup storage for $4.95 per month. So I've got maybe 12TB of data (mostly photos and music). I can't imagine they'd store all that (plus a rapidly daily growing image library) for only $60 per year. What's the catch?

October 5 - Comment - Like - Share

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The catch, of course, is upstream bandwidth. It might take you a year to upload 12TB of data to Mozy; it took me more than a week to upload my 45G of data. - Glen Campbell, B.A.

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i was thinking about this very thing this morning. My bet is that the vast majority of users use far less than you. Sort of like a long tail in reverse. With all of Mozy's users taken into account, the costs even out. - Roberto Bonini

Glen: whats your upload bandwidth like?? - Roberto Bonini

I'm not sure that's such a big catch. I've got uVerse fiber service which seems pretty fast. Even if it took a long time, as long as it was being done in the background and not disruptive it would seem possible to do. So I'd likely be unprofitable for Mozy but maybe a necessary unprofitability in order for them to market unlimited storage to more profitable accounts? I wonder if there is any fine print or anything where they'd renege on the unlimited storage offer. - Thomas Hawk

I wonder if I'd somehow be throttled by Mozy or AT&T if I tried to send them 12TB of data. - Thomas Hawk

I have 2.5Tb here. if i could fill up a few hard drives and send it to them, it would make much more sense. - Roberto Bonini

It would seem to make more sense initially to send hard drives in the mail like that to them Roberto, but I don't see mailing hard drives as an option with them. I don't think the service was designed with people like me in mind though so I'm wondering if it would be a pain in the ass to try and use it. Does anyone using it know how it works? Do you have to manually initiate uploads or... more... - Thomas Hawk

I have a 1Mbit upload connection. - Glen Campbell, B.A.

You tell it what to include and it will do it on a schedule or whenever your computer is idle for some specified number of minutes. You can also set it to throttle your bandwidth. - Glen Campbell, B.A.

does it synch folders, so if I move stuff around on primary storage will it also move it around in the cloud? - Thomas Hawk

Thomas: yeah, thats what I meant. Initially. Glen: Not bad. :) - Roberto Bonini

Unlimited accounts are for 'personal' use only. MozyPro is for business/commercial user: * Desktop Licenses: $3.95 + $0.50/GB per month. * Server Licenses: $6.95 + $0.50/GB per month. MozyHome, in the Terms, they don't seem to have any fine print that limits your storage, however they (of course) reserve the right to change their terms at any time. - Joel Tanner

Mine would be personal use... I think I might actually try it. It would be interesting to see how it went. Since I've got more personal storage than 99.999% of the people out there if they could do a good job with my stuff they could probably handle just about anyone. I suspect it might not go as smoothly for me though. Will have to give the idea some thought this week. - Thomas Hawk

Thomas - you might be interested in this thread: http://friendfeed.com/bluecoc... I have half a terrabyte on Mozy now. The "catch" is that you pretty much always have to have that box connected because if you accidentally sync when it's not connected it will mark the files as "deleted". They'll "come back" when you sync again but... more... - Her Lindsay-ness

it'd be much better to simply buy a new HDD every so often, fill it with a nice backup and send it off to an offsite data storage house. Have the HDD's in a rotation so that you get some of them back every month and you can plop them into a HDD caddy, check they're ok and update that backup. - alphaxion

Lindsey, that's a good thread. Thanks for sharing that. I forgot about that one of yours. It seems like maybe it's not as easy as one might think. Still I think I might check it out. $60 per year seems cheap. Assuming it doesn't hurt the performance on the machine. I really only use my Dell for storage and as a media center PC and do everything else on my Mac. It might make for a few interesting blog posts on the service if nothing else. - Thomas Hawk

Right now I do have drobos which replicate data and many of my files and offsite hard drives with family/friends with many of my images and music. I also have 30,000+ of my finished images stored on Flickr/Zooomr, etc. But my RAW files are not backed up as well as they should be right now and maybe Mozy could be just one more leg of a backup strategy. - Thomas Hawk

Thats for reminding me of that thread lindsay. Thomas: SmugVault?? - Roberto Bonini

I looked at smugvault when it first launched, and it was insanely expensive, at least it would have been for my storage needs. Best I could tell they were simply remarketing S1 and marking it up. I might be wrong though and maybe should revisit it. Do they let you store unlimited data for $60 per year though? - Thomas Hawk from iPhone

No, SmugVault charges S3 rates plus markup, as I recall. - Tristan Seligmann

Prices here: http://www.smugmug.com/price... Quick back of the envelope calculation. My 150gb's multiplied by 22 cents (0.22) = $33 plus $1 recurring charge = $34. - Roberto Bonini

I have backups on S3, but I'm selective because of price per GB per month. I also wanted a flat rate strategy to get virtually all my files without having to think too much about it. I recently tried backblaze and I'm sticking with it (for a year at least). Here's their policy on external hard drives: https://www.backblaze.com/edrive... . One thing that attracted me was that... more... - Micah Wittman

I think it would cost me over $2,000 per year to store all of my data at SmugVault. Too expensive. Especially when compared to $60 per year from Mozy. Backblaze is $60 per year as well for unlimited it looks like. I wonder which is better Mozy or Backblaze. - Thomas Hawk

It takes you a year to update a few gigs to Mozy, so 12TB would take a lifetime. - Mike Reynolds

hmmmm.. that's good to know Mike. A year for a few gigs? I wonder if that's at slow upload speeds or if the problem is more on Mozy's end. - Thomas Hawk

No it doesn't take a year... I uploaded about 250GB in 3-4 weeks (running in idle time when I wasn't home)... I have almost 500GB up there now... One thing to keep in mind though: I have had some issues on my box recently (freezing, locking up... not responding to anything but reboot) and have suspected it had something to do with the Mozy client. I haven't been able to pinpoint the culprit yet, but considering the stuff I had running when these issues happen it's a likely candidate. - Her Lindsay-ness

You're right, Lindsay, it wouldn't take a year: it would take 3 years. 250G every 3 weeks would be about 4.3 Terabytes annually, assuming you keep the uploads running at that same rate. - Glen Campbell, B.A.

It doesn't "take a year to update a few gigs to Mozy" was the point I was refuting. Yes, Thomas has significantly more data to backup than I do or most people do, so it probably would take him a long time, most likely about as long as you derived, Glen. - Her Lindsay-ness

Nice to see some good comments for Backblaze; I have been leaning towards that service, but have also been reading up on two others: Livedrive ( https://signup.livedrive.com/ ) and CrashPlan ( http://www5.crashplan.com/consume... ). Livedrive looks really promising, despite it's higher cost. The FB, Flickr & SmugMug aspects of Livedrive, as well as file sync ability,... more... - JA Castillo

I left Mozy for Backblaze. Mozy was slow, it was difficult to see a file status, and I did have trouble with the connection. Backblaze also has unlimited storage at $5 month. Their UI is superior to Mozy and it backs up app data. - Russellreno

Russell did you find that Backblaze transferred files faster than Mozy did? - Thomas Hawk

The big gotcha at Backblaze is the high cost to recover files. It seems to me both services will only back up files on one drive, and will not find networked drives. - Russellreno

I didn't really notice a difference in transfer speed but I did not have a good comparison either. I did use Mozy with UVerse. Mozy might throttle the transfer speed. I suggest you do a trial with Mozy for one week then Backblaze for a week. That order would allow BB to continue after one week because I think you will like to better. Check the cost of recovery for both services. - Russellreno

@Russellreno - Mozy backs up data on more than one drive... I have it backing up data on 4 different drives on one computer. They're not network drives but 3 are external. - Her Lindsay-ness

Mozy uses EMC's Avamar as it's back-end. Avamar employs data de-duplication at the bit level and can definitely find commonality even in compressed images -- most certainly RAW. 2 of these just reduced our backup time majorly and turned 5-6 hour backup jobs into under an hour at the most after the initial backup. - Mike Kogelman

I love Backblaze. They also backup external drives - anything it sees as a networked drive on your system. As far as the cost to recover all the data in the event of a full system crash, yea, I'd rather pay anyone to get DVDs shipped out than to wait for 12 TB of data to come back down the pipe. - Criz

I'm all for backblaze.com, Criz (see my comment above) but as far as I understand it, backblaze allows firewire/usb connected drives but not NAS devices - "Network (NAS) drives, remotely mounted computers or volumes, or shared volumes do not get backed up." - Micah Wittman

hmmm.. seems like folks like backblaze more than Mozy. May have to give them the first shot. - Thomas Hawk

How do you manage this now? - Nitin Nanivadekar

May I just ask how you manage that massive amount of Data for photos and music? I've got like 200 GB on stuff and always have issues with the managing.. - Jaap Willem

I didn't have a great experience with Mozy. The app for Mac didn't work well, and after several weeks of running it had only managed to back up 5% of my files. A quick survey of various Mac forums confirmed that this was a common problem. - Luke Ibis

i'm thinking of trying BackBlaze for the long fact I have various machines. - Edgar Rodríguez

The service is good. I once thought it had lost everything bit I reinstalled the app and it recognised the stuff it had already done. You can start and stop a any time and it remembers. Inthe day when lightroom was flaky I got a fair few backups from Mozy. Check how much it would cost to ship that back to you though; might fill a few DVDs. Obviusly web restore is free but 12tb might... more... - Phill Price from iPhone

Phil: A moved file isn't uploaded the second time. BB just changes the directory. That was another selling point for me. - Russellreno

Personally, Comcast caps me at 250 GB a month. So that's a minimum of four months just to upload my photos. Then, should I ever need to recover, another four months to get it back. It's a great concept, but backing up to the cloud just isn't viable for large amounts of data. Currently I shuffle external hard drives back and forth to my desk at work. - Eric P

Thomas, you can always be pro-active about your doubts -- tell them and offer to give them an endorsement if you *are* happy in the end. Your concerns are justified, and I think they'll appreciate them and at least be straight with you as to whether they can afford your business :) - Richard ¿digame? Walker

Russell - I'm using Mozy not backblaze - but thanks - Phill Price

Thomas Hawk

Flickr Galleries, An Update - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

September 30 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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A few weeks back I blogged about the latest Flickr feature, galleries. I’ve been using and making galleries now for a few weeks and thought I’d take a second to record my follow up observations after my initial post on the launch. I’ve been making one new gallery a day since Flickr launched the service. Conceptually I think the idea of allowing users the ability to curate galleries of images on Flickr super interesting — one of the more interesting ways to use the service actually. Practically speaking though I think that their are some serious flaws to how this service has been designed and I think that it could be significantly improved. - Thomas Hawk

I agree entirely. I think it's a good idea, but it definitely feels a little half baked. In practice, it's more like being able to group together some faves - and like the existing favorites feature, it's really not that useful to anyone but the user with the gallery. The interface design could use some work too - using that drop down "add to gallery" will get to be a serious pain once you've created hundreds of them. - Eric P

Thomas Hawk

Someone’s Started a Flickr is Fascist Blog, Accuses Flickr of Anti-Gay Censorship Policies - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

August 12 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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"A community of ‘candid’ photographers of men in public situations (all of whom have paid for their accounts in good faith) has been displaced and silenced on photo-sharing site Flickr in less than a fortnight. Four prominent photostreams as well as countless photos vanished from July 6th 2009 to July 13th 2009 without warning or right to appeal. At least one site had over a million hits in less than a year. Flickr has stubbornly refused to give a reason for its recent axe-grinding mission against these sites, but one user was given the reason ‘voyeur content’ after more than 8 days of asking for a reason yet that particular site contained pictures of men in public which is legal. Flickr has refused to expand on the reason it gave, but cited its ambiguous and open-ended ‘Don’t be creepy’ clause in its Terms of Service asjustification for terminating at least one photostream. Flickr has also silenced debate about the issue on its Help Forum. When confronted with whether or nor the... more... - Thomas Hawk

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Good! Flickr is out of control. They should not be allowed to delete a paying customer's photo or photostream without notifying the customer of the "problem" and giving them a chance to correct/explain the situation. It's just bad business. Flickr is a great site, but the negatives are slowly chipping away at the positives. - Rob LaRosa

Yeah, Flickr is pretty out of control. I think I'll be letting my membership expire and using only Pbase from now on. - Todd Walker

I just got banned from the help forum for posting a link to the new blog there: http://www.flickr.com/help... - Thomas Hawk

Wow. How do I move all of my photos from flickr? I suppose I'll have to find somewhere new to put them. - joey

I think it sort of sucks that I post a link to blog specifically about account deletions to a Flickr Help forum thread specifically account deletions and get banned from the public forum. The Flickr is Fascist blog is not mine, I was merely reporting on it. - Thomas Hawk

Looks like it's time to abandon Flickr to Mussolini. And then kick it in the head. - James (!?)

Uh oh. You've been put on the naughty step. - Simon Wicks

Seems like the more we rely on web services the more of our rights we inadvertently give up. With web services being bought, sold, discontinued, or the arbitrary rules that they invoke, we are more and more at the mercy of whim of the site owner. It seems like it is time for some sort of universal user bill of rights that defines a minimum level of service we should expect and defines guidelines for disputes between users and service providers. - Jeff P. Henderson

Well Thomas, as the CEO of a competitor to Flickr, it was only a matter of time before they tired of your "crusades" and troublemaking. (regardless of how worthwhile they are, and they are) - Robert Kenney

I have kept my photos on Flickr, because that is where my family goes to, but I also have them on Zooomr, really not happy with Flickr - Kim Landwehr

This is clearly a signal that Flickr is on the move. To be spun-off, sold, etc. As part of preparations for this, they have been given a mandate to clean-up the site of "less desirable" content to make it more marketable to a buyer. - Robert Kenney

What are the best alternatives to Flickr? - Johnny

Johnny, that depends on what you want from the site. If you want a community, then Flickr is probably the best. If you just want a place to host your photos or sell your work. there are plenty of other options. Here are several that come to mind. Zooomr, Smugmug, Picassa, Snapfish. - Jeff P. Henderson

Robert Kenney: Thomas has been a critic of flickr, but he's also an advocate and user of flickr, in addition to being a competitor. The photo sharing biz is funny that way. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo

i also don't like the fact that Flickr staff refers to me as "abusive" before kicking me out of the forum. My criticism has always been respectful. Simply because someone criticizes you does not make them "abusive" that's such a loaded almost libelous term. I resent that Flickr would call me abusive and then lock me out of the forum where I can't defend myself against that accusation. - Thomas Hawk

Flickr is not a democracy, as they remind all of us again and again. - Robert Kenney

Robert, but users should be able to expect a certain level of civility and recourse that you expect, (and is often required by law) when doing business with a brick and mortar establishment. - Jeff P. Henderson

the anti flickr blog by the way has moved and I honestly have absolutely zero to do with this new anti flickr blog. I was simply reporting on it after the authors of the blog (who I do not know who they are) pointed it out to me. http://saynotoflickr.blogspot.com - Thomas Hawk

Jeff, my point exactly. - Robert Kenney

I've been arguing against arbitrary account deletions and censorship there pretty passionately for a while. Especially lately as the account deletions seem to have escalated (and especially anything associated with or male gay related). I suppose they don't like being criticized for their deletion decisions, but personally I think labeling me as "abusive" for it and censoring me is yet another bad tact for them to take. - Thomas Hawk

don't like flickr's problems? put your pix somewhere else. It's a website, not a national government; it's not fascist. - Chieze Okoye

Most of the time those being deleted have no platform to object and so they turn to the only public avenue that they know the help forum. I like sticking up for the little guy, especially when he/she's in the right. It is frustrating though feeling like you are banging your head against the wall with Flickr who just seem frankly not to care one bit about the criticism or even ever address their censorship choosing to simply lock any thread objecting to it. - Thomas Hawk

no, Chieze, it's not just a "website," any more than FriendFeed is just a "website." It's a community. That's always been what's made it special. It's just too bad that those overseeing the community don't feel that they need to have respect for it. - Thomas Hawk

My contention is that Friendfeed *is* just a website, though. It's kinda nice when they get stuff right, and kinda bad when they get stuff wrong, but at the end of the day, it's just a tool. Is your tool breaking or acting up? Try to fix it within your capacity (writing blogs sometimes works when you're not part of the development itself, but bandying about hyperbole like calling a website fascist usually doesn't) or just move to the next tool that will work reliably the way you want. - Chieze Okoye

There's a huge audience that you only reach through Flickr. There's no "next tool" to reach that many. - Bruce Lewis

Chieze, I didn't call Flickr fascist. I simply reported on the fact that *somebody else* started a blog called that. I pretty much report on everything that's related to flickr that I come across. I'm not sure why I should have been banned simply for reporting on it. We'll have to disagree on both Flickr and FriendFeed merely being "websites." I hold to my contention that they are far, far, more than just "websites," that they are very significant hubs for communities, both of them in fact. - Thomas Hawk

The thing that bugs me most about the way Flickr deals with things is that they delete and/or block, giving the accused no avenue for recourse. If they want to accuse me of having photos on the site that aren't mine, that's fine, but don't take down the evidence. They should have to leave the pics up there and prove to me that they are right. How could I do that after my pictures have... more... - Kenton

Oh, Thomas, I realize that you weren't calling it fascist, I didn't mean to make it seem like I was conflating you with this blog's behavior. Sorry about that. We will have to agree to disagree about the tool/website thing, I guess. I'm not an avid Flickr user, so I don't have that passion (but I am an avid Friendfeeder, at least by my personal standards, and I still think the way I do... more... - Chieze Okoye

Also, @Bruce, at this point, no one should be surprised with Flickr's behavior. Yes there's great audience, but it's not like there NO OTHER photo sharing site that has a community of people you can connect with. Continuing my tool metaphor, it would be like if you had the world's best hammer, but that hammer had poisonous spikes on the handle. For some people who need it or really want... more... - Chieze Okoye

Chieze, I'm well aware there are other photo sharing sites. I run one. But for photographers with a professional interest in getting noticed, Flickr is not optional. - Bruce Lewis

Saying there are options to Flickr is like saying there are options to Windows. Sure, technically there are but not may people use them. - ChiliMac

Yeah, Flickr isn't optional if you want to build a brand/reputation or just get noticed. Which sucks, because I'd have dumped my account there in protest a while ago if that wasn't the case. What's idiotic is that I can't even fathom a reason for these absurd censorship policies. How difficult can it be to implement an holding pen for violating accounts and a review process before they pull that delete trigger? - Eric P

My related blog post: Flickr Censorship Standards = Gay bashing? http://blog.seeminglee.com/2009... - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML

posted your blog post separately See-ming. http://friendfeed.com/thomash... Ironicly, posting about this "Flickr is Fascist" blog is what got me indefinitely banned from the Flickr Help forum. I think that they are pretty pissed off about it. At least pissed off enough to ban me over merely mentioning it publicly. - Thomas Hawk

@TH Thanks! I was not going to post it until I realize recently that it is happening to a lot of my gay friends - including some who cannot post to my groups anymore because they are having the same problem, which is very sad. - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML

Also see related post on NowPublic by dysamoria: flickr: Racist and Homophobic, or Scamming? http://www.nowpublic.com/culture... - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML

Eric P to Eric's feed, US Politics

Man Succumbs To 7-Year Battle With Health Insurance | The Onion - America's Finest News Source - http://www.theonion.com/content...

September 3 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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After years of battling crippling premiums and agonizing deductibles, local resident Michael Haige finally succumbed this week to the health insurance policy that had ravaged his adult life. [...] Once a healthy and happy father of two, Haige saw his life forever change seven years ago when health insurance professionals diagnosed him with a preexisting condition. As months passed and his line of credit continued to deteriorate, the former high school football coach would experience excruciating headaches and bouts of nausea every time another hospital bill arrived. - Eric P from Bookmarklet

Thomas Hawk

So if TIME Magazine, DC Comics and Platon Didn’t Send Flickr a DMCA Takedown Notice Over the Obama Joker Image, Who Did? - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

August 26 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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But now PDN is saying that they have contacted spokespeople at TIME Magazine, DC Comics, and the photographer who took the original image for Time Magazine, Platon, and all are denying having filed a DMCA takedown notice against this image. Apparently the photographer Platon’s office wasn’t even aware of the Obama/Joker issue. So if TIME Magazine, DC Comics and Platon didn’t file a DMCA takedown notice against the image, who did? And if someone with no possible IP interest in the image filed it, wouldn’t it be a tad disingenuous at this point for Flickr staff to be hiding behind this takedown notice in justifying their act of censorship? No wonder why when they were asked by the Los Angeles Times *who* filed the DMCA takedown notice, they were told that Flickr wasn’t able to give this information out. Aren’t able to give this information out or won’t give this information out? - Thomas Hawk

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:) - ariiio!!

Oh no! I liked this post! Will Flickr ban me and cancel my pro account? - Aaman (Clone of FF)

If Yahoo/Flickr wants to curb the "makey upey" (I didn't realize Heather was 5 years old) all they have to do is be truthful and forthcoming with information. The more they withhold, the more rumors will fly. - Rob LaRosa

Amazing. Sometimes I wish there was an viable alternative that provides me with the same benefits I get from Flickr. Careful TH, you're going to find your account mysteriously gone someday. :) - Jeremy Kunz

Barack Obama filed a DMCA request for using his likeness. Okay, obviously, that's stupid, but really, who's left with a legitimate claim of any kind? - Vincent Ferrari

Does the fact that Flicker were complying with a DCMA takedown notice change your view of this story, Thomas??? - Roberto Bonini

Oh, did anyone ask the white house???? and shouldn't someone file a FOIA request to reveal who filed the DCMA notice??? - Roberto Bonini

Here's the EFF's description of the DMCA process in the context of YouTube: http://www.eff.org/issues... - LogEx

I'm not sure if a FOIA is possible... the DMCA takedown is from one private party to another. The Fed in general can't hold copyrights: In the United States, U.S. Government works are covered by 17 USC § 105.59 "Copyright protection … is not available for any work of the United States Government, but the United States is not precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to... more... - LogEx

My guess is either AT&T or Apple, although both will deny it. :) Agree that FOIA has no standing here. - John E. Bredehoft

Unless Flickr is outright lying about receiving a valid DMCA takedown notice, then what needs to happen is fully within the DMCA process now. Whoever posts the image and has it taken down can choose to submit a counter-notice (and bear the risks thereof). The DMCA is the culprit here. Write to your legislators about how the DMCA "has become a serious threat that jeopardizes fair use,... more... - LogEx

@Vincent, Neither Barack Obama or the White House are the legal copyright holders of the original image. They would have no right to issue a DMCA notice. Just because an image is of you does not give you any rights to that image. - Jeff P. Henderson

If not FOIA, sue to reveal the filer??? - Roberto Bonini

I am getting tired of the evasiveness of Flickr staff...who are the decision makers and why haven't they come forward to explain this action? - carwax

@carwax As I understand it, its a Champocracy. - EricaJoy

@Jeff: I said that somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I was just pointing out that the only people left that are in any way involved would be the white house ;-) - Vincent Ferrari

It's hard to say who issued it. The Whitehouse obviously understands that they would not be allowed to request an image come down that they don't hold any sort of IP claim over so I doubt it was them. Although it wouldn't surprise me if they informally objected to the image to Flickr staff. When Shepherd Johnson wrote comments critical of the President on the official Whitehouse photostream a few months back Flickr nuked his account over it. - Thomas Hawk

It's really mind boggling that Yahoo/Flickr finds this approach easier, with all the bad PR inherent to it, than simply reforming their procedures for handling alleged copyright and TOS violations to allow for some sort of appeal. - Eric P

It's easier because they only piss off a small minority of people who are passionate - and knowledgeable - about copyright laws. It's the 80-20 rule: The normal ma-and-pa Flickr user probably isn't even aware that it happened let alone the issue. Except in this case it's more likely 99-1, where only 1 percent of the Flicker users are engaged and passionate enough to care. This type of... more... - Tim

posted this on FB lately? Wait nvmd, FaceFeed - sofarsoShawn

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I Probably Shouldn't Have Said That: Top 10 Unfortunate Political One-Liners | TIME - http://www.time.com/time...

August 23 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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“I am not a crook.” - Anthony Citrano from Bookmarklet

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"Yes we can." [Just kidding; had to say it before someone else did.] - Anthony Citrano

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman." - Sarah is Novembery

@Sarah: I bet the authors wish they'd thought of that... oh wait, they did. ;-p - Anthony Citrano

Nixon looks like George Hamilton in this picture ... maybe it's his teeth. Hmmm. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)

Anthony, I figured they had to have. I haven't clicked over to read it yet. But yeah, that and the "depends on what your definition of 'is' is" = my fave bad clinton quotes. - Sarah is Novembery

How did Clinton and Nixon make the list twice each and not once our former idiot in chief? "Heckuva Job, Brownie", Osama Bin Laden "Dead or Alive", "Major Combat Operations in Iraq have ended", "Bring Em On", "The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa".... - Eric P

Or better yet, Eric, "I swear to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." - Kevin Pedraja

Eric - because that might reflect badly on Time's own coverage of him... - Andrew C

Thomas Hawk

Flickr Censors Political Image Critical of President Obama - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

August 18 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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“Flickr had removed the Joker image due to copyright-infringement concerns, Alkhateeb says the company told him in an e-mail. A Flickr spokeswoman declined to comment due to a company policy that bars discussing inquiries about individual users.” - Thomas Hawk

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I was with you right up until I got to the "clear pro-Obama bias" bit. Whatever the politics of Flickr's staff (demographically speaking, they probably did vote for him) - you can't deny that there's a lot more public interest in everything to do with this President than there ever was for Bush, and virtually every media outlet reflects that. His election is also arguably the most historically significant thing that's so far happened in Flickr's existence. You can't fault them for covering it. - Eric P

Wait, they only removed the image and not his entire account. That is shocking in and of itself. - ChiliMac

Eric, I don't fault them for being Pro Obama anymore than I fault their CEO Carol Bartz for working on a Republican gubernatorial campaign or donating campaign money personally to Bush and McCain. I voted for Obama myself. The point is that there is a difference between a personal blog and a corporate blog. It wouldn't even bother me so much if it was done sans censorship. But when... more... - Thomas Hawk

I don't disagree with the point that Flickr shouldn't have deleted the photo. Their propensity for censorship is damn disturbing. I'm just saying, the fact that they blogged so much about what was perhaps the most significant historical event of Flickr's existence thusfar doesn't bolster the case. I don't think it had anything to do with the staff's feelings for Obama. I think it has to... more... - Eric P

Eric, I'm certainly willing to concede that there may not be Pro-Obama censorship going on at Flickr. Perhaps the extra coverage on the blog merely has to do with the fact that he's more popular than Bush. But I do wonder if someone had posted critically about Bush if they would have had their account deleted as quickly as Shepherd Johnson had his or as quickly as they chose to remove... more... - Thomas Hawk

Whatever the case I'd just as virulently attack their censorship over an anti-Bush piece as I would an anti-Obama piece. This sort of censorship is wrong whether or not it's politically motivated or simply based on incompetence of the underlings in the Flickr Censorship Division. I will say that if in fact this deletion was a "mistake" on Flickr's part, I think it is a shame that they do not have nor will they develop a mechanism to restore deleted imagery and the commentary surrounding them. - Thomas Hawk

The image is offensive and I'm glad they took it down. Seems like they can do whatever they want since its their service. I don't really see this as a first amendment issue. Its not like obama is suing for defamation and removal of the image. - Logan Lindquist

It is offensive on several levels, as there is the whole Jolson/white face implication as well. And it IS copyright infringement. Hate looking at it. Good riddance, I say. - Karma Martell

Logan and Karma, whether or not you hate or love something personally shouldn't be the reasoning behind whether or not it is allowed to be published. Although Flickr is a private company that absolutely can do whatever they want, I think that as the guardians of an extremely important public and artistic space that they ought to support freedom of expression at all costs. I hate racism.... more... - Thomas Hawk

And Karma, it's not copyright infringement. It's clear parody and the courts have consistently ruled that parody is a valid defense to copyright claims. An interesting quote from an EFF attorney in the RWW article on this subject: "Says Corynne McSherry, a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a nonprofit that defends digital rights, Alkhateeb has a strong fair use defense if he was ever sued. "You really want to think twice about going after a political commenter," she noted. - Thomas Hawk

I'm going to play devils advocate a little Mr. Hawk. I certainly understand why so many people are upset at Flickr for what is more often than not clearly censorship (and rampantly so). I wonder, however, are they under any obligation not to? Aren't the pictures we put up on Flickr subject to their moderation? And by putting the pictures up on their service do we not agree to be subject... more... - Peter Mutuma

Peter, I do not think that Yahoo/Flickr are obliged to allow freedom of speech. In terms of their TOS and Community Guidelines they are notoriously vague. According to Flickr's Community Guidelines users should not be "creepy" or be "that guy." Being "that guy," is a tremendously subjective term that they can basically use to censor or delete accounts quite literally for everyone. While... more... - Thomas Hawk

Parody? I am not sure I agree that it is parody. Parody would be of the movie or the Joker character in its entire context. The makeup that was so unique to this version of the Joker - that became the image of the Joker, I am sure cannot be copied freely at will for a shoot or video. That being said, I see both your points, Mssrs Hawk and Mutuma, and these lively and intelligent debates are what I really appreciate about FF and my fellow feedsters. Cheers. - Karma Martell

I don't know what else you could call it. This is definitely parody. ^^ - pitlord

Steven Perez to Steven's feed, US Politics

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Not All Socialist Countries are Alike - http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009...

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"See? They're actually pretty different!" - Steven Perez from Bookmarklet

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I've been saying all I want is the ability to buy into the same health care plan the congress gets - Bastard Operator From FF

We tried to hire a Radiologist from Canada, sadly most are not board certified. Curious if we will now require less regulations if we go to Universal HC? - Janet

it's also known as "public private initiatives" here in the UK - private companies bid for governmental contracts to provide the services, billed to the government. The problem is that the private companies that win the services are there for the profit and so provide a piss poor level of service for the highest price possible. It gets even muddier when you look at the PPI system used... more... - alphaxion

They're not that different. They are both nationalized healthcare systems. I lived in the UK for a couple of years. I have friends who love the NHS because it's simply there and provides a decent, basic level of service. I've also had people I know suffer and die because of sub-standard care (a tumor was misdiagnosed as a dragonfly bite). Nationalizing healthcare is not the silver bullet. - Justin Whittaker

Most folks are not looking for a silver bullet. Right now, they'd be happy with plain ol' lead, as opposed to the blanks they have now. - Steven Perez from IM

I think alphaxion has the right idea. Nonprofits, not for-profit corporations. The latter corrupt the system. - Dennis Jernberg

Single payer advocates sometimes overstate the case, and I'm probably just as guilty of it as anyone. It's definitely not a silver bullet, just a vast improvement over the current clusterfuck of a system. I've never heard a UK or Canada horror story that compares to some of the more common disasters in the US. Misdiagnoses happen everywhere, as does delays in treatment. But I've never... more... - Eric P

I like the analogies. Single-payer is analogous to Medicare. National Health Care is analogous to the VA. Yeah, they're pretty different. - Victor Ganata

Eric P - exactly!!! - Kandeezie from fftogo

aye, you won't hear people from the UK extol how the NHS is the pinnacle of health care and there's nothing wrong at all because, at the end of the day no system will ever be perfect - well, except in the minds of the really patriotic ;). But, for the majority of issues I'm glad it is here because without it I'd prolly have a dead sister (genetic retinablastoma) and a bankrupt me with... more... - alphaxion

I don't think anyone who has ever had significant dealings with the health care system in the U.S. really thinks everything is OK, but I guess some people in this country are so afraid of any change, they're willing to sabotage themselves to try and prevent it from happening. - Victor Ganata

That's the killer for me. How, especially if you've had ANY experience fighting with insurance companies, can one possibly argue that what we have now is better than something new? - Steven Perez from IM

This is one of the reasons why I am harsh in my comments to those people who are against UHC. Yes, I hope they lose their job, their house and their health insurance (and I don't mean it as viciously as it sounds), because only then will they find out that having UHC is actually a far better deal. If there's nothing wrong and you can afford your insurance premiums all is wine and roses,... more... - Rene Wirtz

@rene This is a point I raised with a few of the anti-UHC people on FF... Those who can afford healthcare won't ever see anything other than a bill for other peoples care until that access is stripped from them. These people don't get that health is a social issue and as such should be addressed in the same manner as other social items - I don't hear them bitching about paying for other people to use the police or roads... - alphaxion

I'm from the UK and pay for private health insurance to keep me out of the NHS's filthy hospitals. I dunno, food is pretty important for survival, and look what happens when the government provides that (famine).Seems to me there are two issues: basic ongoing health care, which could be provided pretty cheaply privately for a monthly fee and which wouldn't kill you if you couldn't... more... - Rob Fisher

There are all sorts of issues with getting a random scan for no good reason other than you just felt like it. It's really not a rational use of limited resources, but it is, I suppose, a good way to make a lot of money off of people who don't know any better. Full body scans for cash are totally available in the U.S. They tend to find lots of things that are abnormal, and then you end... more... - Victor Ganata

Poutine is not gross! - Jess Lee

The commenter Harold over there ( http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009... ) is also correct that 'eh?' is more of an Ontario thing than a nation-wide thing. The More You Know {NBC chimes} - Andrew C

Whilst I've never been treated in the US I would say you could compare the treatment I got when I had Guillian Barre Syndrome (http://www.gbs.org.uk) to the treatment people I have talked to get in the US via their HMO. I got given 16 bottles of immunoglobulin at about $8000 a bottle. Intensive Care for 3 months, and full physio until I could walk etc on my own again. My friend in the... more... - Paul Bainbridge

There appears to be an attitude by some (usually within the cosy protection of full Insurance) displaying a Scrooge-like view ("Are there are not still Workhouses?") that they shouldnt have to support those less fortunate than themselves - the NHS is a great institution in the UK which whilst not perfect offers Universal Health Care and one that the UK should fiercely defend and support. - David W

Eric P to Eric's feed, US Politics

Like Your Health Insurance? Maybe You Shouldn't. - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...

August 11 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"If we fail to reform our health care system this year, a major reason will be that a majority of Americans are satisfied with their health coverage and believe that reform could hurt them. According to a recent (unscientific) Consumer Reports survey, 64 percent of readers are satisfied with their plans -- down from 67 percent in 2007, but still a clear majority. A recent New York Times poll found that 59 percent of Americans do not think that health-care reform will benefit them personally; 69 percent are concerned that reform could harm the quality of their own care and 68 percent are concerned that it could limit their access to treatment. This is deeply misleading, for two reasons. First, what does it mean to say that you are satisfied with your health insurance? Consider homeowner's insurance. Until you need it -- your house burns down -- you have no way of judging its quality. The same goes for health coverage; until you have a serious illness, the kind where your plan's limits and exclusions may kick in, how do you know if your health coverage is any good?" - Eric P from Bookmarklet

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We cannot afford Obamacare, especially with Geithner requesting a lift to the fed's spending cap http://online.wsj.com/article... I for one, refuse to sell out future generations so you can sell America off to her enemies. (X^P - David C. Cooper

David, how do you propose to fix American health care spending? Left unchanged, it will continue to rise far faster than inflation or economic growth. - Andrew C

@Andrew: no point in asking, David has no clue. And of course he also never fact checked his claims. Some of his claims are nicely debunked here: http://pol.moveon.org/truth... - Rene Wirtz

Well, I wanted to see if this concern for the cost of health care spending extended to _the reality of what's going on right now_ or if it was solely focused on a caricatured version of the Democrats' proposal. - Andrew C

Getting back to the original article, whoa. "The individual market is completely broken; according to a recent Commonwealth Fund study, 73 percent of people who tried to buy individual coverage in the last three years did not end up buying a plan." - Andrew C

"Second, employers are dropping their health plans; the percentage of people covered through an employer has dropped from 64 percent in 2000 to 59 percent in 2007, and that decline is likely to accelerate." - Andrew C

My employer already stated last year that it is very likely that they will stop employer paid insurance as of 2010 ... I can only hope that commie euthenazing Obamacare is in place before then, because I don't foreseee I can pay thousands of dollars for hardly any coverage, if I even get through the precondition screening. - Rene Wirtz

@David, you never did propose any fix for American health care spending, either in this thread or any other... - Andrew C

Eric P to Eric's feed, US Politics

The Mancession - Economix Blog - NYTimes.com - http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...

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"Casey B. Mulligan noted, for example, that for the first time in American history women are coming close to representing the majority of the national work force. It would of course be a bittersweet milestone, given that it comes primarily as a result of men’s layoffs. Here’s what those numbers look like now, based on the nonfarm payroll data released last Friday:" - Eric P from Bookmarklet

Anthony Citrano to Anthony's feed, US Politics

Health reform idea: Put down the doughnut | MSNBC - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id...

August 10 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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“But other experts caution that the conversation about personal responsibility is not so simple. For one thing, many Americans don’t agree that smokers, the obese or others should pay higher costs for health care based on their unhealthy habits. Only 37 percent of U.S. adults thought it was fair to charge people with unhealthy lifestyles more for their care in 2007, down from 53 percent just a year earlier..." - Anthony Citrano from Bookmarklet

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My county recently decided to impose a surcharge on health insurance for county employees who choose to smoke. Thoughts? http://bit.ly/NEkTW - rowlikeagirl

Should wealthy investors in risky vehicles like CDOs be charged a surcharge on their failures? Seems comparable. And easier to enforce. - Cole Jolley

@Cole: well, that's an interesting (& rather excellent) parallel, because a couple years ago I would have said that the "surcharge" is the loss of value of the investment. But these days we bail out stupid investments - just like we bail out stupid health decisions. - Anthony Citrano

I'm a bit shocked that only 37% of people agreed with this. Wondering how the question was worded. Lies, damned lies, statistics. - AJ Kohn

Charging more for the healthcare seems like a difficult idea to implement - how's insurance supposed to know if you smoke or not other than by self reporting? A better idea would simply be to tax the cigarettes, doughnuts, HFCS, and use the revenue to pay for the extra healthcare costs they incur, as well as subsidize school athletics, community sports programs, and building new bike lanes. - Eric P

@Eric: the corn and sugar lobbies are gonna love you. ;) - Anthony Citrano

Phil G to Phil's feed, US Politics

Health Insurance Reform Reality Check - http://www.whitehouse.gov/reality...

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It honestly kind of bugs me that *anyone* is happy with the insurance they have. To me, the fact that we're paying twice as much for a system half as good, and the fact that I have *zero* confidence that I won't lose my insurance the minute I really need it, means that I'm decidedly unhappy with the "good insurance plan" that I have now. - Eric P

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+1 Eric. Word. - rowlikeagirl

@Eric, exactly. I think most of those people polled who said they are happy with their insurance have not ever had to really use it, outside of a routine checkup or cold/flu treatment. They think it will cover them when catastrophe strikes but there are too many stories of people being denied coverage for treatment when they really need it. - vicster

And even if you're "happy" with your insurance think about others for one minute please, there are millions of people without any in the US. Get over yourself already. - Steve C

Vicster++ - Andrew C

Eric - It is against the law for your insurance CO to drop your coverage due to health condition, if you have evidence that it has been done to anyone please report to authorities! Ya, SSI & Medicare has saddled EVERY citizen alive in the US with $175,000 in debt on top of what we currently pay into the system if we are to keep current benefits, now we are going to add more to that, ya, that is security and stability that we can believe in! - Brian

Gentlemen: When you are of an age to receive Medicare, you will appreciate its full societal value. I find that this program has saved my life on more than one occasion so that I could continue a productive life well into my seventies and, hopefully, beyond. Cost? Yes, it's expensive when viewed financially. Benefit? Incalculable when viewed from a humanitarian stand. - johnthomas

@Brian: It's called "rescission", and recently three healthcare CEO's went before Congress and stated very bluntly that they'd keep doing it. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-d... - Eric P

Thomas Hawk

Facebook Buys FriendFeed - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

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A few hours ago I learned that Facebook had acquired one of my favorite current little playgrounds on the internet FriendFeed. There’s been no talk on the price they paid, but if I just threw a total guess out of left field I’d say it was somewhere around $100 million. That’s just a guess. I’m sure the real number will come out soon enough. While I’m sure that this deal is a fantastic one for the founders of Friendfeed (who were probably already multi-millionaires from their earlier roles at Google and now just became that much richer) I’m not feeling so positive about it for the actual users of FriendFeed. - Thomas Hawk

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Does this mean Facebook is becoming more or less open to the web? Friendfeed banks on the idea of bringing all services into one, will Social Media companies actually rebel against Facebook? - Eric James

It's hard to say exactly what it means yet still Eric. But I think that as we know and love FriendFeed today, that is likely going to be a thing of the past in the near future. - Thomas Hawk

Data point: when Cisco acquires a company with no revenue in order to get the team and significant technology, the purchase price is generally not more than $70 million (and $10-30 million is more common). - DGentry

looks like $50M is the ballpark according to WSJ. Thomas: I tend to agree, great deal for FF, not sure I like the future of what seemed to a good aggregation platform to be absorbed into a less-open system of FB. - Lou Paglia

wow, only $50 million. I'm surprised. Facebook probably got a pretty good bargain then. - Thomas Hawk

From the WSJ: "Facebook paid nearly $50 million for the company, in a combination cash and stock offer, according to people familiar with the matter. The company paid roughly $15 million in cash, with the rest in Facebook stock that vests over several years and would be worth roughly $32.5 million based on the $6.5 billion common valuation an investor recently placed on the company. A Facebook spokesman declined to comment." http://online.wsj.com/article... - Thomas Hawk

I think your number's really high but i'm sure it will come out eventually, and there's only one I'm not sure about but there weren't millionaires in the FF employees collection just really talented smart people who got bored with stuff before they cared about getting rich with stuff in the past. - Steve C

I don't know Steve. I'd imagine that Google stock options earlyon pre-IPO tended to appreciate quite a bit. - Thomas Hawk

My first thoughts about this are not happy one, maybe they'll prove me wrong and do something really great. - Grant Bierman

*Do not like* - Ethan

It gives Facebook a service of its own to use as the encouraged default to update the status wall, instead of using 3rd parties like Twitter? - 1001 noisy cameras

So much for better Flickr integration being in the pipeline. - Eric P

Alex Scoble

I'm going to start a business where I charge people money to have me kick other people in the crotch...and when they look at me and say "WHAT THE FUCK, DUDE?" I'm going to look at them straight in the eye and say "it's just business."

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Works for the mob. Dangerous though. - Jason Wehmhoener

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Just another reason why I love Friendfeed. - Mathew™ one of a kind

I already called my guy, and he's coming to your house. :) - Cristo

I got my groin kicking shoe on and am lying in wait for your guy - Alex Scoble from IM

Hilarous. Is CrotchKickers.com registered? - phil baumann from Android

Alex's groin kicking shoes are 3-inch high heels. - Cristo

Dude, can I go to work for you? I have some steel-toed boots. - Ha3rvey (not Akiva)

There are plenty of job openings just like that in the Finance and Insurance industries. You're reinventing the wheel, man. - The Web's Wendell Wittler

Yeah, but my wheel has a point...namely to make all those who use "It's just business" as an excuse like big idiots. I'd say I succeeded. - Alex Scoble from IM

Ow! My balls! - Eric P

LoL wow, that is complete amazing. Sounds like a web show or something that I'd like to Youtube when drinking. :-P - Matthew Horton

Wow. Where do I invest at par value, man? Literally LMAO! - michael silverton

Hmm...I'll have to find my Nigerian bank account number for you - Alex Scoble from IM

Eric P to Eric's feed, US Politics

Alright Republicans, We Give Up. - http://www.dailykos.com/storyon...

August 10 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Over the past week, we have seen your passionate protests and heard your concerns about Democratic proposals for health care reform. We have considered your insightful and well reasoned arguments, and on behalf of progressives everywhere, I am here to say: OK! We give up! We are willing to compromise on the proposals that concern you: we'll give up grandma-gassing death panels, unlimited free abortions for ACORN's illegal immigrant storm troopers, and mandatory sex ed for newborn kittens. Those provisions have been struck from all health insurance reform bills. With these concessions having been made, I trust that we can now move forward on health care reform with a broad, bipartisan consensus. Happy? - Eric P from Bookmarklet

Eric P

Is a 4-day workweek inevitable? Utah cuts energy use 13% | Grist - http://www.grist.org/article...

August 10 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

"Closing Utah state offices on Fridays has resulted in a 13 percent reduction in energy use according to an internal analysis of the nation’s most expansive four-day workweek program. Since last August, about 17,000 of the state’s 24,000 executive branch employees have been working 10 hours a day, four days a week in an effort to reduce energy consumption and cut utility costs…. The state estimates that, collectively, employees will save between $5 million and $6 million annually by not commuting on Fridays and the initiative will cut greenhouse gas emissions by more than 12,000 metric tons." - Eric P from Bookmarklet

Alp

Which OS (operating system) are you using? (for research purpose)

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Windows 7 ! I love it :) - Farshad

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win. xp - Müjdat Korkmaz

Ubuntu Jackalope - (I'm an ex-Gentooer, too) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Leopard! - Piero Tagliapietra

Now xp but usually ubuntu. - bilge kagan

7 on win, leopard on mac. - vijay

xp-vista - Tamkarışık

Osx - Stefigno

Ubuntu 9.04 - Matteo

şu anda xp ama proje dönemleri dışında ubuntu ve pardus da kullanıyorum.. - ♪♫ halil ♪♫

Tiger - Andrew Roche

Ubuntu 9.04, the "system" that starts with "W" makes me sick. - Oskar NRK

windows XP - 士慷

Right now - iPhone 2.somethinorother. I have OS X 10.5, Windows XP, Windows 7, and Ubuntu 9.04 all at my disposal in the other room. - Aaron Hood from BuddyFeed

Windows XP, but only because that is what came on this thing and I'm escared to completely format the drive. - Joe Pierce

OsX 10.5.6 - ialla

Win7 and Pardus Linux - Arda Çetin

Windows Vista. - Alp

Ubuntu 9.04 - Alejandro

Windows 7 RC, of course - Jemm

Windows Vista at home XP at work - Shey, Jamaican of FF

XP Pro - Alfredo

XP at work, Vista at Home - RAPatton

Vista, OSX and Win7 - Carlos Ayala

xp and slitaz linux - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

XP at work and at home. - Alex Scoble

xp, OEL at work. Leopard for personal stuff - Kiran Patchigolla

OS X. - Parth Awasthi

Work: Ubuntu, OSX. Home: Debian, Vista, OSX - Steve Lacey

XP, Suse and Fedora - dstamand

OS X, Mac OS 8, Mac OS 7, WinXP, various Linux - LogEx

osX, Debian on the server. - InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)

XP on netbook. Ubuntu 9.04, Android, and Windows 7 RC1 in VirtualBox on netbook. Windows 7 on desktop. Vista on work laptop. OSX on Macbook. - Rodfather

XP - Dee S.

XP:) - nursel

OSX. - Joey Gibson

OS X, XP - Mike Nayyar

WinXP, sometimes Win7 and Debian in VMs - bnoise

Vista on one of my laptops, XP on another. 3 other computer at home uses Vista and one more uses XP. We have 8 computers :) - Svartling

At-this-very-moment: Vista. Today? OSX 10.5, OSX 10.4, Ubuntu 8.something, Windows 7, Windows XP. - Jennifer Dittrich

Windows 7 but I wish adobe apps could run on ubuntu - Justin Beausoleil

Windows 7 - Matti Leppänen

XP, Win 7 Beta at home and Win 2003 Server at work. - CAJ, somewhere else

Vista - Jen (SquirrelGirl)

I run XP, OSX, Vista, and Win7 - andy brudtkuhl

XP and Vista. - Mark H

XP @ home and @ work - Kim

Right now, Mac OS. A fairly even mix of Windows, Linux, and IOS through the work day today though. - Andy Bold

linux fedora 10 - eric

win 7 - aykut

ingilizce sormuşsun ,türkçe cevap vermişim :)) yorumları okuyunca farkettim ingilizce sorduğunu ,bir de diyorum ki içimden niye herkes ingilizce cevap vermiş :) - ♪♫ halil ♪♫

Windows 7 - Michael Fidler

Windows XP - Nimaa

Linux, Windows 7, and Windows Vista. - Antony Jepson

ubuntu netbook remix, ubuntu desktop and server, XP in virtualbox (none for research) - Kevin Cearns

Ubuntu Desktop. - Michael R. Bernstein

Mac OSX and Windows Vista - Farzad

XP - Göksel Şirin

UBuntu RulZ - Çağatay " SKYLAB " Şama

XP ve pardus... - Uğur Deligözoğlu

XP - zeynep

Windows XP - ercan

Kubuntu - Ehsanislav

Xubuntu - Sarah Peterman

Mac OS X - Bill Scherer

Mac OS X 10.4 and Ubuntu remix on the Aspire One - Paolo Frattini ⏏ docpap

Windows XP/Vista, Ubuntu Linux, and OpenSolaris. - Rudy Amid

Mac OS X - Violet Mae Lim

win7rc - Eric @ CS Techcast

Leopard, Ubuntu amd64, debian amd64, win7 amd64... - mjc

Win 7 RC - BASEnet

Mac, and also running Win 7 in a vm ... - Patrick Jordan

Vista here and Win 7 beta on the laptop - Roberto Bonini

Ubuntu, Mac OSX 10.5, XP & Vista - Alastair Montgomery

DOS 2.9 - Moved to Facebook from fftogo

Mac OS X, Windows 7 RC - Christoph Studer

backtrack, pclinuxos, fedora - bob

Windows CE (6.1), Win XP, Ubuntu Linux. - Ferhad Fidan from fftogo

Vista - Ahmet Sinan Yavuz

Windows 7 and i like it... - Semih Masat ™

up - Nimaa

Kubuntu/XP (desktop), Ubuntu (laptop), OSX (laptop) - Mark Philpot

UBUNTU - ™یک بابک

OSX - Jason

OSX - AJ Kohn

OS X - Simon Wicks

linux - Ubuntu 8.10 - Simone Biagiotti

Windows XP - Jack DeWitt Smith

winbloze pissed-ah (home premium) - Jim Hearts FF

Widows 7 :) - Serkan Cura (XiLoNeN)

xp at work, vista and 7 at home, apple notebook. Windows CE on my phone, and I have an Ipod. Right now I am on XP, later on tonight I'll be on 7 and Apple. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Dual-booted ubuntu and Win XP on the desktop. On the laptop is Ubuntu. I'm running Jaunty right now on both. - Amy H.

Ubuntu, Jaunty Jackalope. - Steven Perez from fftogo

Mac OS X - Batu

Windows XP and Ubuntu - Tanju Yildiz

XP/Win7 dual-boot and (obsolete XP)-Ubuntu dual boot on my laptop - Willem (@wim66) ☠

Windows 7, Vista, and OS X :) - Spencer

winXP sp3 - Orçun İlbeyli aka Nucro

Ubuntu, CentOS, Windows XP, Mac OSX - Jay Cuthrell

WinXP SP3 & Ubuntu 9.04 - Ricardo Vidal

One Ubuntu 9.04 32-bit, one Vista Enterprise SP1 64-bit - Andy Kruger

Running Mac OS X 10.5.6 on a 2004 PowerBook 12" G4 - Have 10.5.6 on a Mac Mini, and MacBook as well - Pilgrim Five

OS X 10.5.6 on my Mac Pro. OS X 10.6 on my MacBook. VMware ESX 3.5 with multiple VMs running Windows Server 2008 R2 RC, Windows 7 RC, FreeBSD 6.2 & 7.0 and FreeNAS 0.69. FreeBSD 7.2 on my colocation server. - Peter Kruit

Arch Linux at this precise moment. - Michael McKean

Windows 7 RC - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

OS X 10.5.6 and Windows 7 - Tendonitis' Bitch

Windows XP (tweaked), due to some restrictions. Otherwise definitely Windows 7!! - Praveen Vasudev

WinXP - Angga Satria

Mac OS X 10.4 - Brian Hendrickson

Win XP - Brent - Long Live Rock

Ubuntu - Bruce Lewis

Windows 7 - Alan Le

Mac OS X.something. 5? The latest one anyway. - Deborah Fitchett

Not sure how this could be remotely useful. Windows 7 with a Windows 2003 server VPC open - Paul Whitaker

Windows Vista. - Daniel Rowley

Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit. - Faraz Mullick

Windows 7, Vista OEM, Kubuntu, and some other Linux Distros!! ;P - Paul from twhirl

osx - Leo

ubuntu 9.04 and Vista - Bluesun 2600

XP SP2 (But I've got the windows7 iso downloaded, just need some time to install it - Glenn Slaven

XP primarily, but also a Mac Mini for studio work and dual-boot LInux on the XP machine - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF

OSX - Naor Mark

Windows XP - Anton

Now @work-Vista. At home-Vista, XP, Ubuntu, OS X. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

both laptop and desktop: windows XP - ohke

Work = XP, home = Vista64 running VMWare server, running CentOS, and another system running Windows 7 - kevin

home: XP work: XP and OSX - browneyes

iPhone 2.2.1 - Phil Maxwell

Windows 7, but I boot Ubuntu off my jump drive. - Mike Vierow

iPhone 2.2.1 - David Owens

XP - Chieze Okoye

Main box is OSX, laptop is Ubuntu Linux. - Neal Jansons

Primary OS: OSX 10.4.11. Secondary OS: WinXP SP3 (in a Parallels 4 VM) - Thunderwing from Nambu

Mac OS X 10.5.6 & XP - Jeffrey Marsh

Windows Vista and Windows Mobile 6.1 - David Cook

Let's see..computer #1; Windows Vista , Computer #2; Custom Windows Vista , Computer #3; Windows XP, Computer #4; Mac...something or other. I never use the Mac. - Candace

Tiger. I think XP at work ... not sure. - Laura Norvig

مک ۱۰.۵.۶ - مهدی یحیی

XP - Bryan R. Adams

Wow, a lot of XP people! My advice: upgrade to 7 ASAP - Kirill Petrovsky

Ubuntu GNU/Linux 9.04, Windows Vista 32Bit, Windows XP, Android. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

Windows 7 RC - Tony, Paradox of FF

win7 - getalifejerk

Windows XP - Andrew Kharook

all 14-15 ubuntu except for 1 lone vista - John Serra

TO many win xp users :) Though does virtualized o's count? :) Primarily Jaunty 9.04 but also have a previous windows server 2003 setup. @donor why upgrade to windows 7 at all look at the open source possibilities :) - Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa

Suse Linux - Pierre Lindenbaum

Ubuntu 9.04, work and home. - Neil Saunders

Linux (netbook, desktop and laptop computers) - Miroku

win xp mce sp3. my other pc with linux on it is on leave atm - Amber, Random Time Lord

Ubuntu 9.04 - both on desktop and on netbook. - Hanna Wiszniewska

Leopard, Windows 7, and Ubuntu 9.04 - Brandon Titus

OS X - Steve Sill

osX & windows7 - Necdet (nec) Terkes

@Alp: Windows Xp but planed to move to ubunto - Mostafa Lameei

OS X. Windows Vista, 7 and Fedora on it with VMware Fusion - hiro

OS X - Mona Nomura

OS X - Bren, Photophobe

Windows XP - Justin Korn

WinXP at work, OS X at home - Philip Lei

OS X and XP through VM - Dobromir Hadzhiev

xp,ubuntu - junrxu

Mac OS X - Sebastiaan van den Akker

xp and ubuntu - Cristian

Ubuntu Linux of course : > - Adval

Windows Vista - Kristian Salonen

EEEPC 900 Pardus, Toshiba A210-19D Win 7(vista upgrade), Desktop PC Win XP - Hamza Şamlıoğlu @TEAkolik

Windows Vista, but with many RDP sessions to Windows 2008 servers where I do most of my work. - Pete Gilbert

OSX 10.5.6, Win7 and iPhone OS(X) 3.0. - Thomas Bøhm

OSX 10.5.6 on 5 machines and I think we still have an Amiga 500 in the loft. Oh and an Acorn Electron. But we don't use those last two. Much. There are also a couple of XP machines gathering dust in the garage. - Gilbert Harding

Windows 7 as of today. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

In this order: Osx86, Ubuntu, Win7, Vista - Neill Adamson

Mac OS X, Ubuntu 9.04, Kubuntu & Windows XP. Windows 7 is waiting to setup. :) - doruk tokçabalaban from Posty

Mac OS X (Leopard) - Paul Jacobson

Windows 7 - Kris

Xp Tablet Pc Edition with my Tablet Pc & Vista with my Office PC - Can Eğridere "Jegraphy"

Win XP and have just installed Ubuntu 9.04 in dual boot through wubi, but am not using it much. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Ubuntu linux with Gnome. - Marco Bonomo <radel>

Vista, Ubuntu, FreeBSD - J. Abdul-Qahhar

Win 7 :) - Sasha Kovaliov(.com)

XP at work, Ubuntu 9.04 at home - Warren Butler

W7 RC, XP SP3, many flavors of linux. screw the mac os. I'm moving away from MacOS for coding/development. HATE DRM'd HW too. I will NOT be buying another product from Apple for a LONG LONG time I think. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Ubuntu 9.04 at work, Arch Linux at home, Windows XP on both laptops. Planning on upgrading to Win7 on the 'tops. - Daniel Bruce

windows vista - Seltoon

windows XP & ubuntu linux - yagami

Ubuntu and very rarely Vista - Jim Braux-Zin

Os X 10.5.6 - Ingriddina⁂

vista - but how is this for research purposes? what are the research questions? What are the null hypotheses? - LPH™ and his dog P™

I have one PC with Win XP and Linux for home. One Macbook with Leopard for work... - Erica - Mystiria

Apple MacOS X 10.5 & MS WinXP Pro SP2 - Mackley ॐ

Primarily OS X (10.5) and Win XP SP3, but also have ubuntu & Win 7 installed via Parallels - Robert DeBord

at work and on my netbook linux. on my desktop i have vista business 64 (needed for some school tasks) - Andrei Savu

OS X Leopard and Win 7 - Al Degutis

cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 9.04 - Ahmed Mubbashir Khan

Mac OS 10.5. XP at work. - Rowan Evenstar

windows xp - Nilesh

ubuntu 9.04 - Engin Yazılan

Windows 7 RC, virtualised ubuntu 9.04 - Andy

OS X 10.5.6 - Mitchell Tsai

Windows 7 - F. Batuhan Icoz

win xp 64, ubuntu 9.04 - Chris Hofmann

OSX 10.5.6, Vista, XP, & RedHat 4 WS - clarke thomas

XP at work, and Ubuntu on my own machine - embee

OS X Leopard, Arch Linux, Ubuntu (range from gutsy to jaunty), XP, Vista, Windows 7 - yes I have way too many computers :) - timepilot

linux, its a swiss knife for programming issues - Hüseyin Oğuz ALBAYRAK

At home, Vista laptop + Gentoo server - James Myatt

XP, but I miss Win98SE. Loved it. Would like to explore Linux. btw, I have an old Mac that works if anyone's a collector. Pay UPS (or whatever you choose) shipping and it's yours. DM me or email me @ infolode.com@gmail.com Keyboard, mouse, unit all there and working last time I booted it up. - Molly

OS X, Ubuntu - Jan Erik Moström

Windows Vista, Ubuntu, and OS X - nfan12

Mac OS X 10.5.6 & Windows XP - Tommaso

XP - Mathew A. Koeneker

XP at work. Mac OS X at home. - Rutger Blom

XP - stark

OS X, but have XP loaded for Quicken - Kelly W.

OS X on my Laptop, dual booting XP, Ubuntu Linux on my server, Android on my phone. :D - Evan Travers

was quad booting osX 10.5.3, win vista, slackware linux, and backtrak3. and I just wiped and installed windows 7. and in a few months I will reinstall Slackware. - Charles Rice

Jaunty Jackalope Ubuntu 9.04 with customized staff desktop menu (on work's laptop) - home still running Ubuntu but not Jaunty think it's still on 8 something - Mlibrarianus

ubuntu(laptop) + opensuse(for office) + leopard(mini) + xp(ie) - dogan kaya berktas

Windows XP, Ubuntu 9, MacOS 10.5 - Anand Sharma

Home - Win Vista/Ubuntu (laptop) Win XP/Win 7 (desktop) Work - Win XP, Server 2003, - Charles Dick

Windows Vista 32 and 64-bit SP2 (I have TechNet), Windows XP Pro 32-bit, Ubuntu 9.0.4 64-bit, OS X 10.5.6. Oh and Windows Home Server PP2. Need to check out Fedora 11 Preview. :) Forgot to add Windows 7 64-bit (on a laptop). - Dr. Apps from twhirl

Ubuntu. I can't stand windows. - Josef Davies-Coates

Ubuntu too (Jaunty) - howard shippin

windows, pardus - Gizem B

Windows 7 RC Turkish - Adnan Taşkıran

OS X 10.5.6 - david medina

W2K - Windows 2000 pro. It does all I need. Next will be some *nix + virtual machines. - Markus Merz

Windows XP (upgraded from Windows Vista) - Brian Massey

OS X Leopard with virtualized XP, plus a Vista box. - Eric P

XP home and work - Could someone (Alp?) please turn this into a graph/chart of some form - would be really interesting to see this given the data in thus far. - Graham Steel

windows vista - Tahmina Ghani

OS X no windows in site - Bill Pennington from twhirl

ubuntu 9.04 and vista dual boot - Gaurav Bansode

OS X Leopard. It's the only way to fly. ;) - Meryn Stol

Windows. I want to use Linux but not without a dedicated hard drive for it. I am not ever installing a boot loader on my primary hard disk's MBR again. - Zed Darkman

XP and OSX Leopard, both home and work - Sean O'Brien

Kubuntu 9.04 - Grant Bierman

XP, Vista and OSX - Nicholas James

OSX (mainly), Linux (various distros) - John Collis

vista home basic, vista home premium, gentoo linux, ubuntu, OSX - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Win7 and XP. Still some of my OLD stuff won't run on 7. - David Slater

Mac OS - Kevin Pedraja

We collected really good data. I hope we can collect more and then I will share results with you. - Alp

I hope you share the results.. that's a very ambiguous survey. :P - Michael McKean

apple osx - cysko

Leopard - Vincent van Wylick

Will you also publish the results on your blog or so? - Vincent van Wylick

Right now, Android (linux-based). Once I get home, Ubuntu (9.04). At work, OSX 10.5 & Ubuntu. - Andrew Perry

windows 7 - Ahmet Ercan

Easy Peasy 1.1, a customized Ubuntu with the netbook-remix interface - Andrew Currie

Work - XP, Home - OSX Leopard or XP (on my wife's netbook) - mark

right now vista or 7 ... but mostly osx - Julian Lukács

Now, Ubuntu 9.04 - Krishnamoorthy

7RC...rather impressed - Kevin Pruett

Thanks :) - Alp

desktop: ubuntu & server:centOS - Murat Küçükosman

XP home edition & ubuntu 8.04 - Reza

XP and ubuntu - ümid urmuli

Xp and Windows 7 - Roberto Bonini

xp and symbian os - Orçun İlbeyli aka Nucro

DEBIAN! - k00pa

Vista and WMobile 6.0 - Kaan Şengül

mac - sean808080

OS X - Giovanni Piller Cottrer

Home PC #1- Win 7, Home PC #2 - Ubuntu, home server - Debian, corporate notebook - WinXP. - Один дяденька

Pardus 2009 - F. Batuhan Icoz

Interesting that this comes up to the top again. Now I'm using OS X 10.5.7, funtoo (instead of gentoo), Ubuntu, Win7(rc), and the Vista that will not die. and about to try OSx86. :) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

xp and win7 - Muhammet K. (oceangray)

Mainly Fedora. Sometimes Ubuntu. - Hassan Ibraheem

OS X - Лучше не знать

OS X Leopard - Nick Humphries

windows xp, i'm ...use to it... - Dragos Danescu

fistaa - Kenan Rauf Kurt

ubuntu n' also Xp - Emre 'lowrider' Savaş

fedora 11 and windows xp modified - Ahmet Soyata

You should have made a poll. :P - Logan Lindquist from twhirl

OSX on daily basis with some ubuntu on occaison - Logan Lindquist from twhirl

z/OS @work, Windows XP @home - Semra Arslan

windows 7 - Ata İsmet Özçelik

Windows 7, too. - Alp

leopard @ home, Xp @ work - Andrea from twhirl

Mac OS X - Ronald Hahm

windows 7RC most of the time,xp when my kid play games :D - misca mihaela

Linux Mint Gloria most of the time at home. Windows Vista Business 64-bit at work. - Curtiss Grymala

MacOSX 10.5.7 - Kirk Fontaine

Mac OS X 10.5.7 - Adnan Uludağ

Mac OS X 10.5.8 - Parvez Halim

Ubuntu Linux on my personal laptop, work desktop, home server, and my VPS. I'm running Debian Linux on the many thousand servers I help manage at work. - Travis B. Hartwell

Windows 7 - Eric @ CS Techcast

Slackware -current on my main machine, and Slackware 12.2 on my printserver. - i80and

Still on XP Pro SP3, I love it's - Cobatra ♘

OS X Leopard on MacBook Pro and Ubuntu 9.04 on HP Mini netbook - Travis Smith

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People Like the Postal Service - http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archive...

August 6 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"The use by the right of the United States Postal Service as a quintessential example of public sector dysfunction always strikes me as a bit odd. I’ve known bad post offices (11th street and 4th avenue when I was a kid) and great ones (Harvard Square; Brooklyn, ME) and ones that were fine (everyplace I’ve been in DC) and in all case the USPS does an admirable job of each and every day moving all this mail from where it was sent to where it’s supposed to go. Basically, this is a public agency that works." - Eric P from Bookmarklet

Thomas Hawk

Flickr Refreshes Search Page: Looks Good! - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

August 4 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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Today Flickr announced a refresh and redesign of their main search page and I have to say I’m liking what I’m seeing so far. The new page layout flows a lot better than the old one. You can now choose between small, medium, detail and slideshow in terms of views and they have a cool little letter i that is on thumbnails that you can click on to get additional photo details without having to leave a search results page. (You can see an example of this on the image above searching for graffiti by “most interesting”). In addition to offering you more choices for viewing, flickr’s also made use of a right sidebar space to provide you possible related interesting content by highlighting “groups” that feature what your searching for, “photographers” who shoot what you’re looking for (based on number of tags I believe), “tag clusters” showing similar sort of search terms or related criteria and finally “places” tying geotag information in with your search terms. All of this content in the right column is done in typical flickrish ajaxyish style and flows easy and well. - Thomas Hawk

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I really like the update. Makes searches so much faster with more information on a page. - Tom Newman

Meh - I still miss the days when Flickr used to actually innovate. There's nothing *new* here, just a UI refresh of the site feature that that I'm least interested in anyway. I guess it's good for me if it makes it easier for people to find my photos, but for the most part this is yet another update that gets a great big yawn from me. - Eric P

Shame they still keep loosing photos ;) - Nicholas James

I suppose this refresh was due to the new Microsoft-Yahoo partnership? Delicious got a search refresh as well. I wonder how much of the new search is based off of Bing code. - Steven (optionshiftk)

Steven, I doubt that this has much to do with Bing at all. I think properties like Flickr and Delicious are not part of that deal (but I could be wrong). The search results themselves largely seem to be the same as before the refresh. I think it's just a design implementation and basically offers the same former results just with more choices for sizes, easier access to basic photo... more... - Thomas Hawk

Well, Flickr was integrated into Yahoo Image search some time ago. There's no reason to think that Bing won't have access to Flickr data as well and include it in its image search. Which sucks for Google, which is now the only big player that doesn't have access to Flickr data to incorporate into the search algorithm. - Eric P

it is interesting that even without official corporate access to Flickr data that Google Image Search still sends a lot more traffic to my images than Yahoo's Image Search. - Thomas Hawk

I assume that's just because Google Image Search has such a large market share. Yahoo's is better, at least when it comes to finding Flickr photos. I believe all Google is doing is analyzing the image metadata for photos on Flickr. It would also know about inbound links to the photo pages. What would be absent would be any of the social activity around the photos - views and traffic sources and comments/faves and whatnot. - Eric P

Eric, agreed. Google gets a larger share simply because more people use Google for image search than Yahoo. Yahoo potentially should be able to do Image search far better than Google though and beyond some very basic integration of Flickr images, they never really realized this potential. Had Yahoo been smarter they would have much more aggressively integrated Flickr images and the social metadata around the images into their image search strategy. - Thomas Hawk

This is beautiful... now I just search and search to see what is there. - Evan Travers

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Senator Franken relishes his policy role as US senator - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009...

August 2 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"Just weeks into his Senate term, Al Franken's portfolio compares favorably to any of the Senate's freshman members. He loves policy. He has signed on as co-sponsor to a half dozen bills, asked thoughtful questions of Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor, and immersed himself in a thorny debate over health care reform." - Bill Sodeman from Bookmarklet

If you've ever read his books, you'd know he's a policy wonk, and probably better at it than he is at comedy. Which is a shame, because the Senate could use a comedian. I've still got my fingers crossed that Stephen Colbert will decide to run, and stay in character the whole time. - Eric P

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The Powers That Be - http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archive...

July 28 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

"Not to just keep flogging a dead horse endlessly, but it does strike me as worth noting that when you read a puff piece in The New York Times about the Gang of Six bipartisan dealmakers in the Senate that vast power is being wielded by people who, in a democratic system of government, would have almost no power. We’re talking, after all, about Max Baucus of Montana, Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico, Susan Collins of Maine, Mike Enzi of Wyoming, and Chuck Grassley of Iowa. Collectively those six states contain about 2.74 percent of the population, less than New Jersey, or about one fifth the population of California. The six largest states, by contrast, contain about 40 percent of Americans." - Eric P from Bookmarklet

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Think Progress » Jimmy Carter: ‘The words of God do not justify cruelty to women.’ - http://thinkprogress.org/2009...

July 21 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"The truth is that male religious leaders have had - and still have - an option to interpret holy teachings either to exalt or subjugate women. They have, for their own selfish ends, overwhelmingly chosen the latter. Their continuing choice provides the foundation or justification for much of the pervasive persecution and abuse of women throughout the world. This is in clear violation not just of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights but also the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, Moses and the prophets, Muhammad, and founders of other great religions - all of whom have called for proper and equitable treatment of all the children of God. It is time we had the courage to challenge these views." - Steven Perez from Bookmarklet

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He's still my favorite ex-President. - josh neff, Fun Dip of FF

ditto joshua - tiffany

That is AWESOME. - Ladybug Heather

Ditto tiffany and joshua. - Betsy (bentley) Vera

Ditto tiffany, joshua and betsy. He may not have been the best president, but I love what he does now. - Lis Miller

He was the best President of the last forty years. - Eric P

Eric - I'm of the opinion that Clinton was. - Lis Miller

I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't agree that the subjugation of women requires some incorrect interpretation of these texts. From stoning women to death who didn't cry out loudly enough while being raped, to women being instructed to keep their mouths shut in church, it's the religious texts themselves that provide the "justification." - Christopher A Carr from Android

I would disagree. As heinous as the punishments of the Mosaic Law sounds to modern Western ears, the majority of the Law's canon was superseded by the Christ's sacrifice, and the first century governing body of elders made that quite clear in Acts. So any justification for violence towards women or capital punishment would be heavily dependent on the interpretation of the reader. - Steven Perez from IM

"male religious leaders have had - and still have " - screw that.. drop the "relgious" of it!! In short Men of power generally abuse women... check of good old clinton ! - Peter Dawson

That argument is not germane to the discussion, Peter. - Steven Perez

oh what about Jimmy Swagat(?) He is a Christian leader too ?? so lets not just point to the Mosaic law or the Christian law. The issue is that 'leaders' tend to bend the interpretation to suit their own convictions, and at times have a very good way of pursudeing the others that its just A-OK . Who is to blame ?the peopel that belive them or the Leaders who make the belief ? - Peter Dawson

I think you misunderstand, Peter. No one here is saying that men in positions of power do not misuse their power. What we are discussing is whether the blame for such actions lie with the texts they call on or whether the misinterpretation of the texts is responsible. - Steven Perez

And for the record: not a big fan of Bill Clinton, but she showed him her thong. He simply took advantage of the situation and then tried to lie his way out of it. Again, nothing to do with the above, but there it is. - Steven Perez

Steven: "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or tittle will by no means pass from the law..." At any rate, Carter wasn't just talking about Christianity. And the NT makes it pretty clear (especially via Paul) what is a woman's station, relative to men. - Christopher A Carr from Android

Christopher: You left out the first part of that scripture in Matthew 5: "“Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill; for truly I say to YOU that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one particle of a letter to pass away from the Law by any means and not all things take place." This is not say that... more... - Steven Perez

And given the fact that the vast majority of societies at the time of the Bible's writing were patriarchal societies, it should not be surprising that a 2000-year-old book would have such patriarchal ideas. What is quite revolutionary about the Bible, though, was that God expected men to be every bit as subjective to His wishes. The entire hierarchal structure for first the Jews and... more... - Steven Perez

Treating a women as less than a man is down right un-american. That's how I see it! - Charlie Barone

Fine. In 2009, that makes sense. - Steven Perez from IM

Steven: If it's your contention that these documents are at least to some degree inspired by an omniscient being, then it *is* surprising that the texts would be written in a manner as to require such convoluted apologies by adherents living in less "patriarchal," future times. - Christopher A Carr from Android

"Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the Law also says. And if they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church." (NASB, 1 Cor. 14:34-35) ... I suppose "...it is improper for a woman to speak in church" really means something else? Perhaps Paul was just a product of a patriarchal culture -- but isn't that the point? - Christopher A Carr

In Cor 11:5 - Women are allowed to allowed to Pray and Prophesy in Church. So "Speak" in Ch 14 may be describing the demanding for an explanation to the speaking of tongues.e.g. "please keep silent, and ask your husbands when you get home, what the speaking in tongues meant." This was only directed to 1 church. Corinth was a rather interesting city too.... - Mike Nencetti

Mike: Speaking in tongues? Is that what's that's about? The explanations always get more circuitous. Best just to jettison all this Bronze Age-derived horseshit. - Christopher A Carr from Android

An interesting hypothesis, Christopher. I often say the same about Stoic and Epicurean philosophy. - Steven Perez

liking for the comments. - Alex Scrivener

The day that all organized religions die, is the day that the mankind will be free. - Robert Couture

@Christopher, I believe that the bible is a living text, and that interpretations of scripture change and evolve over time, as humans change and evolve over time. You can prooftext to support enslaving others, to support subjugating women, to support many kinds of intolerance and even genocide. What I do *not* believe is that a given passage can have one and only one meaning, from when it was first written and until the end of time. - Ladybug Heather

All words come from people. God only purrs. - Mark Czerniec

@lis: Clinton repealed Glass Steagal, telecom deregulation, gave us DADT and DOMA, and botched healthcare reform so badly we had to wait 16 years to try again. The economy of the late 90's was largely attributable to the dotcom bubble. While he was great on issues of foreign policy and national security, that other stuff weighs heavily against him. Carter, on the other hand, is the only... more... - Eric P

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Don't Tax the Rich -- Just Stop Giving Them Stuff - http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_dai...

July 22 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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The progressive blogosphere cannot understand those who oppose funding Barack Obama's domestic agenda by levying a surtax on the rich. Rather than rehash the arguments against that plan, let me propose an alternative that should appeal to left and right alike: rather than raise taxes on the richest Americans, why not pass a law that freezes them out of receiving federal largess? Whether measured by income or net worth, those falling above a certain threshold could be means tested out of Social Security, Medicare, farm subsidies, the ability to deduct interest paid on their mortgage, federal higher education grants and subsidized loans for their children, NEA grants, vouchers to subsidize the cost of transitioning to digital televisions, etc. - Eric P from Bookmarklet

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I agree, if the rich stop receiving protections and loop-wholes in order to protect their capital that 1% paying equitable percentages of their worth can necessitate a level paying field and parity across a broad spectrum of the U.S. I am for balance and that means equality--universal, non-targeted equity and equality. I have more money than some of my working friends and yet, I pay no annual Federal or State taxes. - Johnice Reid

What's a "loop-whole"? :D - Bill Sodeman

Not convincing without some quantifications on how much money this frees up. - Andrew C

BTW, one major giveaway to the super-rich is that hedge fund managers, who get a fee based on the amount of money they manage, somehow arranged for their income to be taxed at investment rates. - Andrew C

It'd probably free up very little - the rich are still a pretty small part of the population, and most of the programs he suggested cutting aren't doled out proportional to wealth. So we're only talking about dropping maybe 5-10% of social security and medicare recipients. The mortgage deduction might add up because the rich buy proportionally expensive houses though. But it would be a nice feel good measure. - Eric P

Well, I would rather have a measure that actually _raises a sufficient amount of money_ than something that merely feels good. - Andrew C

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Think Progress » Executives receive one-third of all pay in the U.S. - http://thinkprogress.org/2009...

July 21 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"Executives and other highly compensated employees now receive more than one-third of all pay in the U.S., according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Social Security Administration data — without counting billions of dollars more in pay that remains off federal radar screens that measure wages and salaries. Highly paid employees received nearly $2.1 trillion of the $6.4 trillion in total U.S. pay in 2007, the latest figures available. The compensation numbers don’t include incentive stock options, unexercised stock options, unvested restricted stock units and certain benefits." - Steven Perez from Bookmarklet

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Fixing Executive Compensation Excesses The board members who decide a CEO's pay have a fundamental conflict of interest, and shareholders need to have more of a say http://www.businessweek.com/managin... - Jason Wehmhoener

Harvard Business Review: How to Fix Executive Pay http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/hbr... - Jason Wehmhoener

NYTimes: Whom do corporate boards represent? http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009... - Jason Wehmhoener

International Business Time: Revisiting Executive Pay: The Problem is Systemic http://www.ibtimes.com/article... - Jason Wehmhoener

Fast Company: Why the Executive Compensation Debate is Fundamentally Flawed http://www.fastcompany.com/blog... - Jason Wehmhoener

Regarding that IBT article - the problem is systemic, I agree, but it seems to me to be peculiarly an American systemic problem - executives in many other first-world nations do not have such a high exec/regular worker pay ratio. - Andrew C

Elsewhere, there's actually a progressive tax system which reduces the incentive to pay out these ridiculously large compensation packages. We used to have that in the US too - under Eisenhower the top bracket had a 90% rate. - Eric P

I read recently that in the days of high top tax rates, executives extracted money out of the company in less obvious ways than direct compensation: company restaurants, expense accounts, executive apartments, etc. - Andrew C

+1 Andrew. Legislation always has loopholes. - Bill Sodeman

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Feeling the Wrath of Bill O'Reilly's Army | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com - http://www.newsweek.com/id...

July 22 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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I was, Bill O'Reilly explained, an agent of "media corruption." In a subsequent newspaper column, O'Reilly summarized the problem thus: "Under the guise of hard news reporting, the media is pushing rank propaganda on the citizenry. Dr. Joseph Goebbels the Nazi propaganda minister, successfully developed this tactic in the 1930s." - Eric P from Bookmarklet

Wow, projection. - Andrew C

This is frightening! "Your a piece of s---. we will hunt you left wing libs down one by one. you lieing piece of trash." "So perlstein,whats your problem with Fox and conservatives. you jews should be dancing on the ceilings.you have control of the government,obama,congress, senate...." - Christopher Chung

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Carter’s Speech Therapy - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

July 16 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

"On July 15 — 30 years ago today — at 10 p.m., President Carter and 100 million people finally faced each other across that familiar Oval Office desk. What they saw and heard was unlike any moment they had experienced from their 39th president. Speaking with rare force, with inflections flowing from meanings he felt deeply, Jimmy Carter called for the “most massive peacetime commitment” in our history to develop alternative fuels." - Eric P from Bookmarklet

And a mere two years later, Ronald Reagan ripped the solar panels from the White House roof. - Eric P

FriendFeed Feedback: Eric P

Can Friendfeed put a new emphasis on service integration, which I thought was the original purpose of this site? It seems like other than Twitter, nothing else gets any attention. For example, Library Thing - it just shows up as a book title and a link, and frankly you can't even tell it's a book unless you notice the URL....

July 16 - Comment - Like - Share

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Bringing back service icons would be nice, but it would also be nice if some extra thought was put into how these entries are formatted and what they're supposed to be displaying. - Eric P

I agree Eric there needs to be some more thought put into service integration - Bhowmik Shah from Nambu

Thanks for the feedback, Eric. Some of the services we support could use tidying up and working on displaying the optimal content is something we're definitely thinking about. - Ross Miller

FriendFeed Feedback: Rutger Blom

One of Friendfeed's biggest problems is that engaging isn't automatically rewarded with attention as it is on so many other social networks. Just an observation.

July 16 - Comment - Like - Share

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This is in my opinion the reason Friendfeed doesn't grow like other social networks. It is targeting a much smaller audience. - Rutger Blom

I don't know if that's true, about the other social networks at least. They all have their A-listers, and engaging any A-lister is pretty fruitless if you're looking for reciprocation, though that's where all the conversation tends to be. Starting a conversation is difficult anywhere if you don't have some threshhold of friends/followers. - Eric P

I agree with Eric. One of the reasons I don't play with Twitter is that I never got engagement there. Even when I had followers it was so hard to work my way edgewise into an existing conversation, and I never got responses when I tried to start a new conversation. On FF it's easy to get into other people's conversations, and doing that increases the chances of people engaging on your own material. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

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Remembering Apollo 11 - The Big Picture - Boston.com - http://www.boston.com/bigpict...

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40 years ago, three human beings - with the help of many thousands of others - left our planet on a successful journey to our Moon, setting foot on another world for the first time. Tomorrow marks the 40th anniversary of the July 16, 1969 launch of Apollo 11, with astronauts Neil A. Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin E. "Buzz" Aldrin Jr. aboard. The entire trip lasted only 8 days, the time spent on the surface was less than one day, the entire time spent walking on the moon, a mere 2 1/2 hours - but they were surely historic hours. Scientific experiments were deployed (at least one still in use today), samples were collected, and photographs were taken to document the entire journey. Collected here are 40 images from that journey four decades ago, when, in the words of astronaut Buzz Aldrin: "In this one moment, the world came together in peace for all mankind" - Eric P from Bookmarklet

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Charlie Brooker on our rotten institutions and lack of faith - http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment...

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"It's all gone wrong. Our belief in everything has been shattered by a series of shock revelations that have shaken our core to its core. You can't move for toppling institutions. Television, the economy, the police, the House of Commons, and, most recently, the press ... all revealed to be jam-packed with liars and bastards and graspers and bullies and turds. And we knew. We knew. But we were deep in denial, like a cuckolded partner who knows the sorry truth but tries their best to ignore it. Over the last 18 months the spotlight of truth has swung this way and that, and one institution after another was suddenly exposed as being precisely as rotten as we always thought it was. What's that? Phone-in TV quizzes might a bit of con? The economic boom is an unsustainable fantasy? Riot police can be a little "handy"? MPs are greedy? The News of the World might have used underhand tactics to get a story? What next? Oxygen is flavourless? Cows stink at water polo? Children are overrated? We knew all this stuff. We just didn't have the details." - Eric P from Bookmarklet

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