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FriendFeed accepts Facebook friend request - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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We've been acquired by Facebook! We are really excited about joining the Facebook team. (Note: FriendFeed will continue to operate - see the blog post for details)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Boom.
- Louis Gray
Grr!
- directeur
Woah...
- Brandon Titus
Uh. Well, that's the end of that.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
What does this mean for FriendFeed, Bret?
- Kol Tregaskes
Lame.
- Mark Trapp
great title bret. well played.
- MG Siegler
WOW
- Bindu Reddy
Congrat! So, what does this mean to your team and to FF in general?
- Dilip Dand
wahhhhhhhhhh
- Myrna
maaaan
- Jamie
wowow
- Harry Wolff
congrats
- brainno722 (Peter)
Nooooooooooooo
- Mushin
Wait... seriously?
- Ken Sheppardson
oh, noooo
- Tanju Yildiz
Congratulations to the friendfeed team. I know this is huge for y'all. Please don't let us spoil your parade as we weep.
- Ladybug Heather
Seriously?!? .....
- sebastian☆rocket brother
oh boy.
- Carlos Ayala
I am hoping this will lead to nice integration for cross posting! Currently using Twitter App on FB to post and I hate those ff.im links that end up on Facebook.
- Ivan Zlatev
it was good while it lasted, Friendfeed. :(
- holly
division by zero
- Onur Cengiz
OMG
- Onur Gündüz
"FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team." Those are NOT encouraging things to read as a FF user.
- Scott of Two Countries
gratz
- Ali
My heart is sinking as I type this. Please tell me that it isn't a late April Fool's joke. :(
- Tyson Key
Wow, it's true!!
- Kevin Whalen
Big news! I second Kol & dilip's request for what this means for the team and FF's future.
- Brandon Titus
O_o
- Joe Silence is not Santa
So it IS true.
- Hector
Nicely done Bret
- Jennifer Van Grove
Congratulations btw, guys!
- Kol Tregaskes
Sniff... not sure if I'm excited about this. But I have enormous respect for the FriendFeed team... so, I assume they believe in the move as more than an exit strategy.
- Michael Leggett
Congrats, Bret.
- Jordan Hofker
This is just horrible
- Matthew DeVries
Congratulations, I suppose. A bit worried Facebook is going to ruin everything though. I'm not fond of Facebook, to say the least.
- Irma Vermaat
Um.
- Barry Mitchelson
Oh my... Hopefully FriendFeed won't vanish and good luck :)
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Do we call it FaceFeed? FriendBook?
- Tyson Key
Oh no....
- Ben Hanten
What does mean for us?
- Rich
from iPod
Terrible fit.
- Matthew DeVries
damn here it is... :(
- Edgar Rodríguez
FriendFace!!! (i love it crowd)
- Bahriye
*waits for wall-to-wall ads and constant spambots*
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Die.
- Zio Bonino
Congrats
- Zoltan Szendro
I dont want FF to end
- Fee501st
Wow
- Shevonne
Oh mon dio !
- Umar
What did you do? WHYYY!
- Zachary TG
Ostregheta.
- Reloj
Congrats guys, in a bittersweet sort of way.
- Hutch Carpenter
guess there's no way of denying this anymore :(
- BCK
Just another lesson in why you shouldn't put your love and trust in a company......
- Matthew DeVries
Oh no!
- Erdinc YILMAZEL
Congrats, but I hate Facebook.
- Zachary TG
I like Friendfeed and I do not like Facebook. Gratz to you guys though, I think.
- Mark Sorrell
"Oh shit..." came to mind immediately. :(
- Tyson Key
Scott, yep not encouraged by that comment. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Congrats on the deal, best wishes to the FF'ers in helping facebook get it together!
- Sean O'Connor
This could get exciting, especially concerning twitter :-P
- Malte Steckmeister
Congrats for Friendfeed team, but I'm seriously worried for us :(((((((((((
- Roberto
Congratulations... I'm sure this is pretty exciting for everyone at FriendFeed... We're all looking forward to where it takes you!
- Nathan Chase
And FriendFeed was just getting popular. Not any more.
- Zachary TG
Wow
- Rodfather
*Sobs*
- Tyson Key
wow
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
to the dump
- Zachary TG
Wow, very disappointed
- Randy Pollock
come on. Bret, facebook is so closed. so different from Friendfeed. besides that. Congrats to the team
- Edgar Rodríguez
As am I
- Zachary TG
machecazzo
- Sba
VERY disappointed.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
horrible decision
- Randy Pollock
Booo. But, you know, congrats.
- Chris Nixon
i'm not sure i'm happy about this.
- Taylan Aydınlı
OMG WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SH*T
- Alp
Congrats for u guys... probably too bad for us ;-(
- Laurent
God, I can see FB shutting down FF just like Six Apart shut down Pownce.
- DarknessFalls
arg.
- Aron Michalski
Good for you, don't know for all of us
- Cristian Conti
@#$& that's all I have to say. For now.
- Zachary TG
Facebook should have been aquired by Friendfeed. Why they hell would you give up your better product to a worse one? Did none of you give a shit about this service to begin wiht?
- Matthew DeVries
Congrats!
- Alix Whitmire
Coolest web 2.0 site I've ever seen & used. I hope things don't derail. Ads will be coming soon, which is fine, but.... then what 's next? Please no quizzes!
- Ben Hanten
Who would have thought that after Facebook were shamelessly being "inspired" by FriendFeed, the inevitable would have happened?
- Tyson Key
I'm pissed off. I wan to throw away the whole Internet :
- DarkBls
Congrats!
- Moushumi Kabir
Congrats guys. :)
- Meryn Stol
Congratulations. This is awesome for you and for Facebook.
- Mike Sego
mommy?
- Josh Haley
Hey guys, keep in mind that Facebook is blocked in workplaces across the nation. 250 million casual users commenting about last night's party does not intelligent conversation make.
- Hector
FFail
- rael
What will happen to my 92 subscribers?
- Zachary TG
yes you have just failed at failing, no it is not a double negative.
- Bahriye
Tragic.
- Shannon
I really can't see how FB would buy FF only to shut it down. There are way too many innovations and features FF has that FB honestly needs. I'm looking forward.
- Harry Wolff
congrats!
- Jay
from ViewPoint
here come the comments
- Zachary TG
Congrats? Everybody who's saying Congrats doesn't know what he's saying. Go to hell.
- Zio Bonino
Yeah, quizzes are EVIL!
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Wow.
- Zachary TG
Oh, this does not make me happy. Not at all! I've stayed off of Facebook intentionally and FriendFeed is my favorite social network. This is like when the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees. :>(
- Larry Hawes
i have stopped using FB for the most part and liked FF alot more. now FF will go the way of FB. screwed again.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Congratulations. Enjoy the new challenges of acquisition, and I'm looking forward to the result!
- Wade Dorrell
Berge Gazen beat your score in Mafia Wars
- Berge Gazen
Feedface or Facefeed?
- Fee501st
FUCK THAT ! [Anyways good job guys ^^]
- TiTi
Enjoy your fat paychecks, guys. You've sold us out.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Bravo Bret! Been following your successes ever since we had the opportunity to work together on the YellowPages.ca / Google Maps Canada deal. Congrats!
- Sebastien
I wished it was Google or even Yahoo!, instead...
- Tyson Key
i really hope ff stays as it is. fb is kinder carder while ff is a great tool.
- jkkmobile
Facefucked or Fuckfeed?
- Matthew DeVries
Not sure what to make of this. It could eiter be a big win or a huge fail.
- dorn
It could have been Microsoft, which would have been worse for everyone. :(
- Tyson Key
Can I take this opportunity to say I HATE facebook?
- Alex Scrivener
seems the only ppl happy here are the ones in the biz or who stand to profit from the merger.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I guess we should get ready to get poked by our supposed friends and have various shit thrown at us? Plus 5,000 requests by apps that nearly all suck.
- Joey Gibson
There is zero way this could have been a win for anyone, but the now rich founders.
- Matthew DeVries
duh
- aybars badur
I HATE facebook
- Pedram
this is simply awful.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
If I have to go to FB to use FF then it's a lost cause
- Randy Pollock
Painful. And apparently I completely misunderstood what FF was trying to accomplish both technically and as an organization. I guess Facebook must have dangled a pretty big bag of money in front of them.
- Ken Sheppardson
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! :/
- Tyson Key
Awesome. Please fix Facebook email :) http://fudge.org/too-muc...
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook is going to acquire the web!
- l'Ego di Gigi
To me, FriendFeed is like Porsche and Facebook a Kia. I'm curious to see which will become which..
- Moushumi Kabir
Oh noes!
- Burcu Dogan
Congrats Bret!
- Robin Dindayal
I will reserve judgement, i don't like or use FB but if FF maintains it's current goodness i don't care who cuts the checks.
- Steve C
I hope this doesn't turn into an APP filled hunk of crap. I love FriendFeed, it was the untouched gem of microblogging. I don't want Mafia Wars invited in my FriendFeed!!! Congrats on the sale though.
- Jay Farmington
Where's the "dislike" option?
- Gregor Morrill
+1 Gregor
- Tyson Key
accipicchia che pessima notizia
- massimo mantellini
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!!! -_-
- Bahriye
I just realized this is like when K-mart bought Sears ...
- DarknessFalls
/ponders the meaning of "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being."
- Philipp Lenssen
And I will officially be leaving FriendFeed today.
- Michael Forian
omg
- John μller
@Philipp: until the new masters start flexing their muscles and bringing in their own people to enforce their own vision.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I read the blog post and one statement stands out to me "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being." The time being. This is not just bad, I think it may be #FAIL
- berchman
Such great news!
- Steve Rubel
Not sure what to think of this.
- Matthew Speicher
where is dislike button ?
- Osman Üngür
OMG!
- Zac Bowling
now where did I put my twitter password
- Randy Pollock
big mistake :((
- emresezgin
I suppose it will be called FriendFace? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Phil Harrison
Congratulations, guys!!!!!!!!!
- Jess Lee
Oh. Hell. No.
- CannonGod
Oh My God! They Killed FriendFeed!
- Tyson Key
so the (once)new facebook homepage was actually the tip of the iceberg?
- Onur Cengiz
It's a win/win! congrats all.
- Alan Le
Time to roll your own Frienfeed clone.
- Fırat Can Başarır
Congrats to you.
- Evan Travers
Congratulations. I look forward to seeing what this new partnership means for users.
- Aren Grimshaw
FF will surely be integrated into FB at some point?
- Kol Tregaskes
damn Ken is spot on! +1000 Ken!
- vijay
not good.
- Jacque
Oh. My. Gosh.
- Enrico Lamperti
Facebook obviously liked FriendFeed a long time ago. Why would they have copied so many features (feed item comments and the "Like" action, to name a couple) otherwise? It was only logical for this to happen eventually. Doesn't mean I like it, but acquisition is part of the game. I have the same feeling I did when SocialThing! was acquired by AOL, though.
- Voyagerfan5761
"Relationship Status: It's complicated" comes to mind. ;)
- Tyson Key
Wow, I finally sign up, and read this. This could end up being a very bad thing for FF fans: "Your FriendFeed friend just signed up on this poll, would you like to too?"
- Brian Bommarito
sad...
- Marvin
Congrats guys. And thanks for your continuos effort in helping promote and integrate web services, like mine, Wakoopa. That's awesome and I hope FB gets better because of it.
- Robert Gaal
This will give FriedFeed the attention it deserves. Otherwise it would have been a geek thing forever.
- Michael Netsch
Will there be a super poke feature launched tomorrow?
- Matthew DeVries
aw, this sux!! Congrats to the Friendfeed team though!
- acedanger
please don't merge logins!!! please
- earlyadopter
They are deceived when they suffer themselves to be drawn after the image of things, without seeking for the true reason of them.
- The Complex Days
I hope it works OK to you guys!
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
D:
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
+1 Netsch - I still like FF more but this finally legitimizes FF to the mainstream.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Friend request una beata fava. Pecunia non olet.
- Federico Bolsoman
Yeah, I really can't wait to see what value the Ashton Kutchers and Oprahs of the world have to add to FriendFeed.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Please tell me this is a delayed April Fools' Day joke.
- Rochelle
Facebook & FriendFeed: don't cross the lifestreams! D:<
- CannonGod
I guess this means I'll have toget a facebook account after all.... Hope the API stays up and running....
- Roberto Bonini
"Were rich B!tch!" - Chappelle
- adolfo foronda
Another good thing: This ups the bar for Wave.
- Wade Dorrell
What a bunch of greedy assholes.
- Zio Bonino
So ?
- Ercan Bülbül
Does this mean that we'll be seeing an influx of webcam spammers, a la Twitter? Along with abolishment of the rooms feature, crappification of the search feature, and more "privacy features" that really just put more nails in the openness coffin?
- Tyson Key
:(
- Pavlo Zahozhenko
Some people will do whatever their friends request........
- Michael Muller
I really don't see why people would be anything but excited about this Facebook freindfeed deal. Great news as far as I am concerned. The Friend feed team is going to go over facebook and make it that much easier to connect, share... isn't that what the social web is about?
- Kevin Murray
I know a lot of people who use Facebook and enjoy it and that's fair enough. It's just not my cup of tea. The chaps from Friendfeed will get rich and the technology will get absorbed in Facebook but I can't see Friendfeed continuing in anything like it's present form.
- Paul Nash
Don't be so negative, something good might eventually come of this...
- Tarmo Aidantausta
The End.
- Kaan Ertürk
Congrats! I know you all must be crazy excited right now.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
chance for FriendFeed to become more mainstream... congrats FriendFeed team!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Nothing could make me happier than if they integrated the good tools from FriendFeed into Facebook, which is where all my friends are. So a big "yay!" from me.
- Ian Betteridge
happy for you guys, but not for all of us
- Flavio
congratulations. this is going to be interesting.
- Dave Beckett
I think I preferred the non-mainstream version of FriendFeed...
- Tyson Key
I'm turning on my black shirt, my black trouser, my black socks, my black shoes. Although I probably must be happy for you.
- Ton Zijp
NASTY NASTY BAD BAD. But we'll see...
- Daniel Morgan
Game over.
- stark
yeah removing feed also works.
- Bahriye
Reminds me so much of Last.fm fall...
- Marcos
Given that the FriendFeed team has never been anything but awesome & respectful of its community, I think it's unfair for people to assume that the Facebook acquisition is going to change that.
- Jess Lee
Why in god's name are we flying over this shark?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
- Matthew DeVries
Facebook is like a giant who listens to nobody. Please keep your attitude but I don't think you will be able to do so.
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
Noooooooo......
- Sung W. Lim
yeahhh
- Çağrı Burak
NO
- Cristian Conti
Congrats! That sucks.
- Rutger Blom
Where is that evidence Jess?
- Matthew DeVries
I don't know, Like it? or dislike it?
- Ömer Balamir
What happens to all the content that we've created and imported here, and the associated metadata? Will all that disappear into the ether?
- Tyson Key
If the FriendFeed guys can make FaceBook useful and responsive again, this seems like a pretty positive step!
- Robin Barooah
Robin, the Facebook users don't want that I'm afraid.
- Rutger Blom
I have big loss of data concerns. See http://ff.im/6pHjo Is there any way to archive all my FriendFeed posts, likes, comments, and pictures (friendfeed-media.com) off-line? Can some Archive.org-like snapshots of FriendFeed be made (Once a month starting Sept 2009)? I'd like to see the cross-links between my posts & other people's posts, even in 2020. -
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell: the FriendFeed site is not shutting down. Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users.
- Bret Taylor
I just overheard a coworker mention FriendFeed. This is how the world ends...
- CannonGod
kafa sayımı yapıp köyü satan ağalar geldi aklıma
- Alper Ömer Esin
Then provide us with a way to easily make a back-up of all of our posts and all of the posts we have Liked and Commented on.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want it to be handed off to Facebook.
- Zio Bonino
Near term future?
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't see good things coming from this. Although I like Facebook, I liked Friendfeed more. Partly because of the environment and the smallness of it. That is now going to be ruined. So, 10-1 odds that Friendfeed will be no more within a year after it gets intergrated into Facebook?
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I doubt it Robin. Bret can only give us assurances about the "near future." Here's what I think will happen. Just like Twitter acquired Rael Dornfest and his awesome web services, Stikkit and I Want Sandy vanished (and so did he), Facebook will acquire all the talent from Friendfeed, shut this service down and Facebook will continue to suck.
- Jim Is Not Smart
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want anything to be handed off to Facebook. And I don't want to lose anything.
- Zio Bonino
Congrats obviously, but im not sure about the feeling,, different user groups which can not integrate but collide.. hope there wont be an huge integration in the future.
- Yunus Tunak
I'm happy for FriendFeed! But, at the same time a bit worried about the future. Hope you guys convince FB to not be evil too.
- Vishal Verma
http://friendfeed.com/sunipey...
- sunipeyk
Let's hope this is like Disney's acquisition of Pixar - wherein the Pixar guys ended up in control of the animation studio...
- Robin Barooah
from IM
Where the f*ck is this option to undo ?
- Laurent
Odd that this thread gets modded?
- Matthew DeVries
I seriously thought this was a joke. Looks like its not. I don't like it, sorry.
- Michael Lynton
Does anyone want to start a bounty to purchase Facebook? ;)
- Tyson Key
#FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL
- Jacque
Congratulations!
- John Craft
can't be, shouldn't be...
- Kemal
It is! Change is inevitable, my friends.
- Bill Sodeman
Jim, I'm less cynical than you - the FriendFeed founders wouldn't do this just in order to become 'talent' at FaceBook.
- Robin Barooah
So will we be playing FriendFeed Mafia Wars at some point in the future? Ugh.
- Alex Hellstrom
I feel if I should be wearing a black arm band. But I guess when I think about it..............
- Kevin J Hatton
Oh No! I don't like this at all :(
- Peter
WTF! Horrible Bret, this the death of FriendFeed.. you know that right?
- Santa CW™
I still think Apple will acquire Facebook, Twitter Friendfeed and Google Twitter.
- Thomas Power
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
- Stephen Francoeur
My condolences to all Friendfeeders! RIP!
- Evgeni Leshtanski
AAAAwwwful!
- carolh
I can't believe it! damn! facebook tos will apply to friendfeed too? should i start to move to another service? why anyone would think that facebook public is friendfeed public?! damn! friedfeed was my favorite! I can't understand this move! they want to kill friendfeed or what?
- paula simoes ☃
"I bet I can find 1.000.0000 people who dislike this deal."...Welcome to FriendBook.
- Jacque
Well, huge congraulations to you and your team, you deserve every success. To be honest I had presumed this would happen sooner or later - the only business model cool little startups have is to hope they get bought by someone bigger for their brains and technology. I'm going to be in San Francisco in a couple of weeks and was going to stop by your office to bring you a cake and thank you for a great product - maybe I still will if you're still there and there's still a FriendFeed!
- Alex Lomas
The FF founders must have know this would be a very unpopular move. Most users I know here are not too fond of FB.
- Rutger Blom
damn, damn, damn...
- Kemal
One of the sadest news for Internet and web creativity :(
- DarkBls
Woah woah... This is real?
- Jason Huebel
"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users" There's a bit of a contradiction in your statement, Bret. Nice try though.
- jcunwired
Now I can break my Internet plan at home.
- DarkBls
Grats Bret and the rest of FF. To all the naysayers... Lets see what happens before we start bitching....
- Rasmus Lauridsen
wow!! dazed and confused!!
- Roberto Arancibia
I don't hate Facebook, but for sharing things Friendfeed is MUCH MUCH better!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I wonder if that Ben Darnell guy who *just* left the Google reader team knew about this beforehand? Wonder what he's thinking now? (http://friendfeed.com/friendf...)
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Just great. I'm certainly not very happy about this. Let's just hope FB doesn't ruin FF. Ugh.
- Elena
Who cares? Nothing's gonna change in our pitiful lifes.
- bluretina
:|
- Amin BZ
This ties in nicely with the fact that you soon will have the opportunity to make your Facebook profiles public and get followers there.
- Michael Netsch
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- лето ближе с каждым днем
Congrats Bret! this is so great! many congrats!!!
- Jason Pollock
That is capitalism for you. Luckely, there still good 'ol usenet.
- Peter
Is it April 1st somewhere in the universe?
- Robert Felty
#ROFLMAO Is there anything more important than money? It seems NOT #ROFLMAO
- Lora Lufark
I don't mean to be negative but there's got to be a win-win logic to each merger&acquisiton. Audience high in only quantity is clearly not a win for friendfeed in the long term by considering its unique selling points. Let's wait and see who will benefit from friendfeed's death now.
- ayca
It's all about the money. I would have payed a couple of dollars each month to use FF.
- Rutger Blom
#DONTSELLMYFRIENDFEED
- sunipeyk
Seriously, what is this? It's like Bret just announced that he's killed all your mothers or something. It could turn out good, it could turn out bad, but at the end of the day, who cares, it's just a website (I mean honestly, come on). I could see it going either way, but in the near term, this is a pretty big win for the FF team, so congrats guys.
- Chieze Okoye
OMG!
- keso
To be honest, my heart sank a little but I am happy to congratulate you and the team for building such a good brand. Well done.
- Kevin J Hatton
I'm just surprised, that's all. I'm not saying this is a bad thing (it certainly isn't for the owners of FF). I'm willing to sit back and see what happens.
- Jason Huebel
Wow, I specifically use friendfeed b/c it is not facebook. Sounds great for the friendfeed team, but not necessarily for friendfeed users.
- Evan Parker
Born to be sold, like in the old "new economy" era. Remember the late nineties?
- Federico Bolsoman
Sudden desire to check out Strands again... but hey, kudos on the incoming $$ for FF team
- Leslie Poston
#DONTSELLMYFRIENDFEED
- Kemal
This is wisdom. Bracing for Google Wave is a good idea.............
- Kevin J Hatton
this is clearly a talent aquisition... why am i not excited about this? could it be because facebook has been blatantly stealing features from friendfeed shamelessly. Likes were clearly not an original facebook idea...realtime feeds is another i could go on...
- Tate DA FF MVP
While I'm sad, because I suspect this means the best things about FF will disappear or I'll be forced to use FB in some way, if the buyout was for some awesome amount of money, I can't say I blame 'em for taking an offer -- I would.
- Andy Bakun
I came to FriendFeed because I don't like facebook. Now the question is, will facebook become more like friend feed? or will they just take friend feed and turn it into facebook?
- Tom Ray
FF could be a good R&D arm for facebook.
- Andy Bakun
My biggest concern here is that FB has a completely different audience than FF.
- Rutger Blom
Fucking morons. FriendFeed is doomed now. Think logically. Facebook has NO REASON to keep FriendFeed alive. It will simply take FF's best features, suck the life of out of it, then trash FF. Way to go, FirnedFeed, damn.
- Jeremy Buff
Fail.
- Big K
Big Fail!
- OnuRC
This announcement should have been held off until the plans for Friendfeed were known. Regardless, this is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone.
- tollie williams
wtf ?!
- Umut
I need to install "super PUKE" application !
- Bart LePoole
http://ff.im/6pQcu
- Bahriye
FFail.
- rowlikeagirl
I don't want my FF feed on Facebook :( I use both, but maintain both profiles separate
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Sigh... Happy for the team if this is what they want, but baffled by the move. The users that are going to leave because of this will make FF a graveyard and the users it gains, well... Hello spam? Sorry, but I don't like it.
- Vince DeGeorge
from iPhone
JEREMY+++++1
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Wow!
- felix
Well, I guess it is time to dismantle my friendfeed. We all know where this is headed. So, so glad I didn't move all my rss feeds from greader to friendfeed like so many cheerleaders suggested.
- Matthew Speicher
Jeremy +1
- F. Batuhan Icoz
so what's next? where should we go?
- Flavio
It's been fun here.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Dang, and just as I was starting to get used to how FF works. FF is useful on it's own. I hope this only improves FF's system, rather than having it disappear into Facebook's wake.
- Don Faulkner
My big question to everybody here is this: What are the potential downsides / upsides to this acquisition? I mean on paper I just don't see what the pros OR cons are. I don't care for Facebook but I don't see how them acquiring FF is going to change everything.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
furthermore they are 2 different things: I follow a lot of people here that are not in my facebook list, which is for IRL friends!
- Flavio
I don't know where to go next either. I had just settled down to make imaginary friends for all my non-FF tweeps, etc. now, I'm not sure if I should bother.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I hope friendfeed continues to operate normally but it does not look good.
- ashish
integrate best features of ff to fb, then try to innovate in fb if possible, then kill ff... that's it, cheers, all the best. grrrr...
- Kemal
niczak has good points. FF & FB aren't exactly competitors, but they aren't orthogonal either. Let's hope FB's smart enough to see the difference and improve both platforms.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Nicholas: The upside for Facebook is they just bought an engineering team that's built many of the feature's Facebook's going to need to stay competitive. The upside for FriendFeed's engineering team is $$$ and the ability to build system for a wider audience. FriendFeed's user base is small enough that it'll either get absorbed into Facebook or move on, and FF will become a footnote on the Internet timeline.
- Ken Sheppardson
Don, I don't think FB wants to maintain two platforms.
- Rutger Blom
first tr.im (heard about it yesterday), now this. I wasn't a heavy tr.im user (yet), but sad to see it go, even if I think url shortening is silly.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
As FB said they're interested in the people and not in the site, what if the community will keep running FF without its current staff?
- Flavio
Congratulations!
- Sam Grover
Flavio, that's not very realistic I'm afraid, but I like the idea.
- Rutger Blom
rutgerblom, I don't expect they do either, thus my angst over this.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
if there's a team willing to do it and money, and if we accept some ads as everywhere else, we could make a new FF without FB
- Flavio
I have worked hard in avoiding signing up for FB. Does this mean I now automatically will be on FB by virtue of my FF account?
- Tony Vota
from iPhone
Tony, most likely
- Rutger Blom
read carefully: http://blog.socialthing.com/2009...
- Kemal
I'll have to go with Flavio's position too. Given this news (plus tr.im and who knows who's next), I'd tend to favor community supported or federated services for things like this in the future.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I am purposely not on facebook because I don't really want to talk to people I have not talked to in 20 years.
- Andy Bakun
God help us
- Johnny
Once again. I'm happy for the FF team. They worked hard and now collect. That's fair. Wonder if they're sitting in a bubble pool drinking champagne while we cry out here ;-)
- Rutger Blom
Congrat Bret!! :))
- Cihan Cepni
trouble is (from my perspective), that the philosophies of the two platforms are at odds. FB wants to bring people to the site and keep them there, while FF is a hub, bringing people in and then sending them back out. (That's part of why it's hard for the newcomer to understand, IMHO.)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
This almost confirms FF will disappear: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Kol Tregaskes
Great point, Don.
- Rutger Blom
+1 Don
- Johnny
Does this mean I can throw someone a sheep on FriendFeed now?
- Pinksy
I sure hope so, Rutger. I glad for their success too. I just hope there's a next best thing out there for us.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Congrats all. Nice work, in spite of any naysaying out there. Keep up the innovation.
- Tomas Remotigue
LOLI FFAIL
- rael
lame.
- andy brudtkuhl
This should be good news for Twitter.
- Rutger Blom
post the picture to failblog...
- Kemal
Quote «Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority.¶ But Facebook is...
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- Philipp Lenssen
+1 Kol for the techcrunch article!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
techcrunch: "Cox agreed, noting that Facebook is focused on being a platform and a service, and not just a destination site." I certainly hope so!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Brilliant move by both Facebook and friendfeed. Congratulations!!! I have theories of what they have planned, but I doubt you would verify any of them. This is going to go so well with their SocialTV which they have been developing. I'm so happy for you!
- Michael Fidler
Really saddened by this news.
- Doug Beeferman
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
- LouCypher
I don't see what's so bad about it since no one knows right now what the outcome will be, everyone is just making assumptions that could possibly be wrong..... Might help just sitting back and seeing what happens first before complaining.
- ChaCha Fance
Nooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrghh! I´ve resisted getting a facebook acct for so long...
- Thomas Bøhm
ChaCha, if everybody would do that there would not be much discussion would there? This is part of the fun.
- Rutger Blom
I wonder how the discussion over on facebook would compare to this?
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Drat!
- Gee Ekachai
congrats guys!
- Elad
Don, I doubt there is any discussion going on there. They're too busy throwing quizes at each other.
- Rutger Blom
Congrats, FF! I'm approaching the situation with cautious optimism. A lot of my friends only share stuff via the Facebook wall/feed, so if Facebook is able to make their feed more like the FF feed (i.e. good, instead of sucktacular) through this acquisition, it's mostly a win for me in the end.
- Brian Chang
At least my Feedburner stats might go back to normal again.
- Rutger Blom
/me pokes Rutger. (just getting in practice. ;)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Where will we go for the FFunderCats, bacon memes, and angry artists fighting over photo reshares now? ;)
- Tyson Key
Don, LOL :-)
- Rutger Blom
If anybody has doubts as to what happens to the FriendFeed community or our stored information here, read this statement from Bret (in this thread) "Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users". Now maybe you can see "whats so bad about it" and curb your optimism. Not good.
- jcunwired
Congrats FF. Fix their live feed situation please.
- Edward Barnieh
@josh: do you think FB will throw away all the crap people use? various quiz, pick 5 and so on?
- Flavio
@jc: our data will not go away in the near future. what will be in few months? in a year?
- Flavio
Let's see if you can do a bit better than just not being evil this time around.
- Tim Tyler
Wooohooo!!, seems like we are being sent back to "good" old Facebook. Congrats Bret!!
- Danli
Looks like I'm going to repeat the same thing many others did. My first reaction was "Oh my..." I have refused to join Facebook due to its philosophy while I have been with FriendFeed from the beginning for its. I'm sad and somewhat apprehensive.
- Sean Leather
Congrats. I suppose this means the end of FriendFeed but hopefully a better Facebook.
- Harry Toon
Hmm. Interesting.
- Ralf Becker
Add me to the fearful group.
- beersage
Please say that facebook.com will be shutting down, and the combined company will still be called FriendFeed... I bet it won't happen, though.
- Tyson Key
"Regarding FB/FF - Here's how it's [probably] going to work. You will most likely have an account merge, all of the services FriendFeed supports will now be aggregated on Facebook, and all of your FriendFeed friends will be in a "list" on Facebook. The FF Groups will become Facebook Groups. The FF lists will become Facebook Lists." http://ff.im/6pNxq
- Ozgur Uckan
Nothing like an early retirement payout :)
- Owen Greaves
Congrat Bret
- Nimaa
Panic attack. Congratulations, however! :)
- Fumus, Draco Magus
Congratulations Bret. For me this merger makes a lot of sense. Facebook will provide the "quantity" of users, which friendfeed deserves :).
- Karthick R
:(
- goodmachine
FriendFeed + Facebook... Oh noes FriendFace is coming (http://www.youtube.com/watch...)! Now sorry for that link, and seriously, thanks for your work, guys. Please don't let the spirit of FriendFeed to be blown away =)
- Anton
СУКИ-СУКИ-СУКИ!!!!
- Viktor
hey, that is great guys! interested to see how you integrate.
- Brian Walsh
Mind blown. Never expected this. I'm also disappointed, yet optimistic at the same time.
- Angus Burton
Kinda curious to see how this will all pan out...although i wouldnt want the friendfeed stuff just integrated into facebook. I feel like im among a group of people who i genuinely share interests with here...dont want to lost that.
- Cassidy
Best case: Facebook will continue to support and develop FriendFeed. Worst case: this is great news for Amplifeeder.
- David Gaw
aieeeeeeeeeee
- Richard Akerman
FAIL. Facebook is the new myspace, and now friendfeed will become a part of that BS. Can't say I'm too surprised because eventually we all sell out. BTW I don't see friendfeed lasting more than the rest of this year, if that. The good news is that we can all be subjected to add 'Are you related to a monkey?' and Blackjack apps while having annoying personal ads on our profile pages. Fuck this shit.
- Tomy Thomson
Well done, well deserved, I hope FB's means and infrastructures empower your guys to even better things. But if quizzes appear in "my" friendfeed, evil things will haunt you and your descendents for 3 generations.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
:(
- Eph Zero
Well done Bret!
- Alemsah Ozturk
♪ ♪ This is the end.... beautiful friends ♪ ♪
- All for design
Well, I don't see the point of sticking around here if I have accounts in both and this is going to get swallowed whole into Facebook anyways. Put simply, goodbye.
- Micah Collard
It was fun while it lasted.
- Mr. Gunn
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! This place will be just like twitter...
- The Count Rob
Congrats to the FF team - you've built a wonderful product!
- Michael Nielsen
Whattttttttttttttttttttt???
- Nibi
The social community that has been behind FriendFeed creators have built a wonderful product. Only problem is, we don't have Zuck's checkbook :(
- jcunwired
friendfeed is a beautiful product, only god knows what facebrook will do to it. Hopefully the ability to upload files (such as mp3s) will not be removed. Zuck is a tool.
- Nibi
Congratulations. I'm sorry to say that I don't plan to move with you.
- Lars Juhl Jensen
I don't like this....
- Zeki Pehlivan
"Like" to follow this thread. Not because I like what happened. I'm horrified. FF could disappear now.
- Kamilah Gill
Same here, Kamilah.
- Tyson Key
If FriendFeed had invented the "don't like" button, today would have been the day to press it.
- Vishal Verma
and I just bought BuddyFeed for my iPhone this weekend. :(
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Oh, joy, Facebook's privacy policy is upon us!
- Joris
WTF?? NOOOOO!!! Why do such good things have to be ruined by greed? Screw Facebook, and goodbye Friendfeed.
- Jason R. Hunter
congratulations!
- Loic Le Meur
Facebook is lucky to have such a talented group of people ... Congratulations FriendFeed!
- Rob Kurrus
doesn't look like a bad joke, better be for the good then, but... Well congrats anyway guys, you did something AWESOME now let's see where Mark takes it
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
That's too bad. Liked the openness if FriendFeed, and the lack crap that is on Facebook. Once FriendFeed dies, it will be Twitter only.
- Mike D.
Congrats, but concerned that FriendFeed and its tools may disappear. Merging the tools with Facebook seems impossible.
- Mike Reynolds
Congrats guys (and gals) !
- Benjy Weinberger
So, what does the acquisition of FriendFeed by Facebook mean to us, users of both websites: Can I make a friend request from FriendFeed, and be approved for both, on one click
- Reyna Carlos
Exciting news guys. I am actually looking forward to your collaboration with / work for FB. No matter what people may or may not like about FB, it does succeed in reaching a more "diverse" audience compared to most other Web 2.0/social web companies. Paired with your team's excellence in realizing features that succeed in pleasing the geekiest of Web 2.0 affine individuals, I think you are steering towards exciting waters :)
- Mustafa K. Isik
*heart sinks* actually a bit of shock - I think that Facebook will leave Friendfeed as-is but I don't think there is hope for future innovation in Friendfeed since their best superstar team members will be pulled onto 'more important' Facebook issues...
- Pon
And the metastasizing, walled-garden that is Facebook, continues to eat the Web. Bring on Google Wave.
- Christopher A Carr
:-) + :-( very happy for the team, huge achievement, hoping to see export of innovation but not a shut down of this unique community and location
- Majento
There goes FriendFeed down the toilet. well I WAS having a good day. until hearing this crap!
- Scratch5150
Congratulations, and best wishes for your future together! :-)
- Ruchira S. Datta
Wow, I was beginning to use Friendfeed as my defacto social site...Facebook is more for real life friends. They'll just take what makes Friendfeed great, add it to Facebook and slowly kill this site.
- Manuel Mas
What is the big deal? I think it'll make FF bigger and better. You should be happy about that!
- orionstarr
Somebody has to got pay for it.
- orionstarr
I am disappointed. I don't want to have to go to Facebook to do what i do here. I can not imagine they will port over all the features we enjoy here. We lose a lot for only a slight benefit to Facebook.
- Robert
It could be worse, myspace could've bought them lol...
- orionstarr
Awful news for users but congratulations to you guys. Ideally, FB will run FF as a distinct service but I'm not hopeful. I don't want the diversity and noise that facebook brings - people doing quizzes on which movie star they resemble and playing silly games. I also wanted to keep my day to day social activity distinct from the targeted information and discussion I use FF for.
- Rajit
Only just started taking a serious look at FF after hearing acquisition by FB. Sounds like I'm laggard rather than a leader in use of web 2.0
- ManojRanaweera
I think how Pon said it is what I'm feeling: *heart sinks*.
- Andy Bakun
Congratulations, i am really happy for you guys!! :)
- Mona Nomura
I'm not a Facebook fan, but can't begrudge the FF gang their chance to reap the rewards for all their hard work. However, it would be a shame if FB ruins the good thing we all have going here.
- Ken Morley
So what now? a name change too? FriendFace? FeedBook? FaceFeed? god Facebook really sucks. oh well. Adds anyone?
- Scratch5150
Congrats to the FF team... I hope the service doesn't disappear into a fold of light and heat.
- Brandon
if all the things that make FF great are brought to FB then I'll be happy to use it
- Mike Chelen
The community won't be there. Been on FB longer than any other, don't have nearly the relationship or sense of community there that I do here or on Twitter.
- Karoli
Karoli: that is due to the effectiveness of the FF platform and interface, which help to join conversations and find interesting people more so than FB does
- Mike Chelen
Mike: I suspect that FB wants FF for the search possibilities, not the community-building aspects. But we'll see.
- Karoli
i guess congrats are in order, but I'm going to now go and remove everything I have that feeds into FF, and I have to ask -- do I have any rights over my archive? I have a private feed, and I have no interest in offering up my lifestream to the FaceBook data-miners. I hope the FF folks get what they hope for out of the deal, but my FriendFeed experience has been effectively killed.
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I just learned about the FF acquisition by Facebook - WOW~! Congratulations Bret, Paul and FF team!! holy cow ........Mooooooooo! Where's the FF Acquisition Party? :)
- Susan Beebe
Friendfeed after Facebook http://ff.im/6q5EY
- Ozgur Uckan
Wow thats cool!
- AbZ
from Nambu
RT @alirizaesin FriendFeed, R.I.P. Home tweet home!..
- Ozgur Uckan
Congrats to facebook. Now, Twitter is the best.
- Ebru Baranseli
Congratulations to the FriendFeed guys on the Facebook Acquisition. Not a big fan of Facebook, so I hope my favorite Uber Aggregator, Realtime Social, Microblogging site of awesomeness is not entirely absorbed into the Facebook infrastructure. I wait with baited breath to hear what "normally for the time being" means ;).
- Tom Horn
Can I now have comments propagate in both directions as far as Facebook/Friendfeed is concerned?
- Piaw Na
*checks date*. Damn .. not April 1st, must be for real. While I'm happy for the FF team, since I guess this is what they wanted (congrats guys!), I can't help but think this is the beginning of the end for a great service and a vibrant community. There are reasons I don't spend any time on Facebook and do spend lots of time on FF, and some kind of "FF integrated into Facebook" just won't cut it. I hope this service will live on for at least a few more years.
- Andrew Perry
Gratz to the FF team but as a user I'm not completely happy. In short, I like the FF team/product much more than I like the FB team/product. Best of luck to all.
- timepilot
Dang! I've killed another site! Sorry guys... FF was doing fine until I started coming here again! Same with Pownce! Went there and liked it... went underground for a spell... came back and still liked it, so I stayed. A few months later... BOOM! I have the touch! (I'm thinking I'll start devoting a lot of time to Twitter... maybe I can kill that one, too!)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Все, блядь, пиздец!
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
WOW - very happy for all of you :-)
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Bret, congrats on the acquisition. You guys put in a lot of hard work to create this community. I just hope you learned the mistakes Pownce made, Jaiku etc, and ensured that you didn't sell out your community, but that you helped it evolve into something as great as this into something better. Good luck in future endeavors!
- Mike Lewis
Oh yeah? Ok: take tour money and go to the hell. :-(((
- Claude LaFrenière
Yay for you guys, I mean that seriously, I 'like' what this means for you personally, but -1000000 cool points for doing it with FB. Sad day.
- Threepwood
Karoli: FF search is so useful because it is integrated with all the other great features that help to find relevant content. if FB wants to have a similar capability, they must also develop the underlying architecture.
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Sucks big time.
- Drea
Sadness
- Yasin Jason
I can't believe this happened
- Johnny
Suggested name: FailFriend. :-(((
- Claude LaFrenière
Friend facebooks feed (FFF)
- Filiz Koyuncu
«Experience shows that those who never trust anyone will never be disappointed.» Leonardo da Vinci
- Claude LaFrenière
So what exactly is going to happen? Is FF eventually going to disappear? Will it merge into the Facebook interface? Please don't do that
- Ethan
Gimme my OPML export
- Sriks7
Money is the root of all evil
- Shakeel Mahate
shakeel, the reasons for friendfeed to join facebook are probably about other things besides money, since many of the FF staff left high-paying jobs to join in the first place
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Well I've thought about it, and I'll stick around until I start seeing that crappy Facebook logo, I only have 71 subscribers here, I hate to do it but I'll probably scrap the whole thing and start over somewhere else. still can't believe that shit.
- Scratch5150
Congrats, team! It's bittersweet, though.
- Anne Bouey
So now we will have FriendFeed blocked at work too. Darn.
- Mark Scrimshire
"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future" is not exactly inspiring for the long term for those of us who came here to escape Facebook for a) it's walled garden and b) privacy concerns. Nice for the Founders to make a pile of cash but for the many of us, it feels like we got sold down the river. Sad.
- Sally Church
This is tragic. Tragic. Tragic.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
cacarr: updates for FB have progressed rapidly in the past, count how many months since new features such as api calls and site redesigns have have been implemented
- Mike Chelen
from IM
I can't believe it either. I feel as if — for the moment — I am lost in the wilderness, adrift.
- roamin
Congratulation to the FF team! You guys deserves this. I just hope that Facebook does not change the directions of FF.
- Vinko
congrats, I'm happy for friendfeed...
- amelia arapoff
Congrats you guys, well deserved.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Congrats Bret! Hope the transition goes smoothly for you guys.
- Cristo
I hope this means better integration: liking here will auto-like on fb and such :D if that's the case, I won't mind the ads *wink* *wink*
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Franc, cant stand facebook ads in their current format, hope they will be fixed eventually :P
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Grats, dont spend it all in one place.....
- Robert Higgins
congrads. I think it will be good for BOTH companies.
- Logan Lindquist
boo.
- kelly
The Borg has struck. Alas. Prepare to be assimilated. (Will FB add my FF subscriptions to my FB friends list?)
- Dennis Jernberg
Boo
- Amit Morson
Logan: What do you mean by "both" companies?
- Christopher A Carr
Now that you guys have $$$ you should swap out the not so very pleasing default avatar!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Hope you guys enjoy your new jobs. Meanwhile we get to watch a great alternative to Facebook with a promising future go down the tubes. A really sad and unfortunate day.
- Todd Holmes
BOO! Hiss! Mondays really do suck.
- Dale
Congratulations to all the FriendFeed team. I hope you'll be able to keep the FriendFeed spirit up at Facebook. Kudos for all the great work you've been doing.
- Paul Papadimitriou
Congrats and good luck..
- Can Koklu
Thanks for all the fish. Saving the so long... for now.
- abacab
Goodbye FF, it was wonderful..
- Francesco Cugurra
I use FriendFeed and Facebook so it would be awesome to see FF features in Facebook. Congratulations!
- krzychukula
from IM
judging by the nearly 600 comments as i type this, including my own earlier one, FF could use a Don't Like button as well. or would, if we were going to be using it much longer.
- kelly
Nice, i like to wish you all the best for your new job (and it's really hard, i know). I'm happy, but... don't let die FF!!
- Seo (ignobile) Guru
Hope FriendFeed remains open. Love the spirit of FF
- Bernaldo Barrena
Seriously, what a coincidence! Just on Saturday I claimed to be both twitter- and facebook-free. I loved FF product and personally helped to bring at least a dozen of my friends into the community. I'll stick around for a while though.
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
This deal makes sense, now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask! Congrats facebook and ff!
- Garin Kilpatrick
I suppose Facebook had to do it, with Twitter and Google Wave as competitor...
- Alexander Kruel
обычные дела. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
Congratulations Friendfeed :D
- paniaguai
Ok. I'll quit friendfeed, so. Goodbye. Ciao
- valerio fiandra
from iPhone
I am noticing a lot of people going to re-esumate their lifestream.fm account now!
- Flavio
I don't think FB acquiring FF is bad. But I don't think it's good either. We'll see. :-) In the meantime, keep up the good work!
- Alexander Gieg
Oh shit. Love FF, hate FB. I'll NEVER, EVER merge my two accounts. I'd rather unsub from both than merging. I'll wait for the developments, and in the meantime look for an alternative.
- Alliandre (la Ippe)
How long until ex-FriendFeed employees start jumping ship from Facebook? I wonder...
- Tyson Key
Thomas Power still believes that Facebook/FF/Linkedin (2010) will be acquired by Apple (2011) and this is a transitional acquisition in the SN market cycle. The world is shifting to Mac, iTunes, iPhones and FB own the next generation. Apple have $29bn of cash on deposit price is not an issue. Google must jump for twitter while MS fiddle in the sticks with Yahoo. BillG will be back at the MS helm 2012.
- Penny Power
:( Happy for FF people, sad for the service. Was going to move from fb to ff this week..
- Martynas
congrats!
- Ronald
thts good!so i can workin both in my Fb online next
- Arini dewi muchtaram
Flavio: never heard of lifestream.fm before, but I'm going to go check it out. I'll reiterate, though, that I'm now shy of any service like this, since it can disappear just as it's getting good. I heard about sweetcron.com last night (via http://ff.im/6pR2w). Maybe it's time to move from centralized to distributed again.
- Don Faulkner
Just finished setting up my lifestream.fm at http://lifestream.fm/dfaulkner. Lifestream does what it says, and no more. FF's search blows lifestream away. FF is more flexible about adding source feeds, but lifestream does fine without the flexibility I suppose. FF still wins, or would, if I thought it would be sticking around. :P
- Don Faulkner
Must See - Hitler blows up over Facebook / FriendFeed - http://friendfeed.com/dffrnt...
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Dave, I'm not happy. That video gave me some much needed comic relief .. after waking up to this news.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
good for you, bad for us
- Zachary Earl Strader
I also hate facebook, not because of their silly quizzes and pokes, but because I suspect they would like to maintain massive user base as the determining factor in choosing a social network. I would love to switch to orkut as I use so many other google services, but I can't because nobody else does. That should not be my criteria.... I thought friendfeed would try to make social networks work together.
- Ru Viljoen
I don't understand why everyone is so negative about the situation?
- orionstarr
@orionstarr - it's like Starbucks buying your neighborhood coffee shop and saying it still cares about the customers. You know it's just not going to be the same as what you've come to love.
- Robin Barooah
Presumably FF will go on the back burner - and the team will try and "fix" Facebook.
- Tim Tyler
sad, sad, sad.
- scott willeke
Congratulations! That's huge. I hope all is well.
- Juan Bruce
bad bad bad
- kakilang
bye bye friendfeed!
- Jonathan Crossland
Why-eee!!! ??? What next?
- Wayne Lewis
I've watched Facebook morph from a relatively organised and well implemented social networking tool into the hulking mess it is now - and I really, really hope that a similar thing doesn't happen here with the inevitable changes this will bring about.
- Leslie Moore
Come on guys, out with the long-term game plan, this is tedious.
- Andrew Eglinton
NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I mean Cool.
- sofarsoShawn
Teach Facebook how to be FriendFeed. Let the small but fast teach the big but slow. Don't forget what Paul says - don’t be evil.
- whatidiscover
TechCrunch is down. Twitter is up. That is how we know it is 2009 and not 2007.
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the concept of authority is still in both, the "I hate pseudo authority guy."
- abdellah
Perhaps it's Twitter's fault.
- Jose Alvear
Perhaps it's DoS. Karma-style.
- Jason Hargrove
CNET is down too,,, coincidence ?
- Tate DA FF MVP
Techcrunch is not just down, it's completley dead. Dropping 100% of all packets
- Mark
TechCrunch down, web and all startups survive
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Twitter is more reliable than YouTube these days. I think we've just walked through the looking glass.
- Tom Milsom
Arrington quits iPhone and now TechCrunch goes down? Coincidence? :o
- Kevin Whalen
They should have gone with Rackspace. I can imagine Arrington will be fuming.
- Mark
@TechCrunch: TechCrunch is experiencing some turbulence right now. Please remain in your seats and fasten your seatbelts. http://www.techcrunch.com/ about 1 hour ago from web
- Qbat
So its Opposite Day on the internet?
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
I wonder if the chap who hacked twitter got techcrunch ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
so many speculations... I'm sure the site is down for no special reason and will be up soon. the important thing is that I already read the quitting the iPhone post :)
- Orli Yakuel
Yes but Techcrunch never goes down :(
- Mark
@arrington sez: Media Temple is fired
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
CrunchPad.
- Brian Hill
Might be a DNS issue, like what happened to me (OpenDNS). Wow, and Twitter seems to be better thenthose two sites, and it fort of replaces them. Coincidence?
- Zachary TG
from Nambu
LOL
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
yeah lol Media Temple is fired.
- Mark
Big Chance for scoble to score a new contract here
- Mark
TechCrunch is BACK.
- Mark
almost funny.... I hope they had a funny down picture like twitter
- blackysky
Mark: I've learned never to pitch when someone else is down, it just brings bad karma your way. I'd rather win business on service, APIs, flexibility, overall quality, etc, not on whether you're pissed off because your host is currently down. EVERY host will go down, and if you aren't planning on that you aren't making good architectural and business decisions.
- Robert Scoble
I'm like that, too nice and honest. That's why ruthless people in business like Trump and Murdoch etc are zillionaires and I am poor :D
- Mark
I'm enjoying the growing movement that believes Twitter is a waste of time. From what I have seen so far of FriendFeed I hope it replaces Twitter. Disclaimer: In my humble opinion of course.
- paul watts
People often ask me what ROI do I see from twitter and I just point them to the blog and website numbers showing where traffic comes from.
- Stephen Brown
if i've more $ i would already head 2 rackspace was my 1-2nd choice
- polou/indigo_bow
robert i vote this post as THE BEST FF post ever. so funny
- Ouriel Ohayon
Ha Ha Ha , who will write about Techcrunch downtime
- Michael_techie
That's good to know!
- Kevin J Hatton
Video: Wired editor Chris Anderson on The Colbert Report - http://venturebeat.com/2009...
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Gizmodo - Man Threatened, Arrested For Taking Picture Of Open ATM In Public - Atm photo - http://gizmodo.com/5250851...
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"Despite the fact that this photo was snapped in broad daylight in a busy Seattle REI store, Shane Becker was threatened by fake cops and arrested by real ones. One of the Loomis & Fargo guards servicing the public ATM threatened to tackle Becker if he tried to leave the store—apparently snapping a photo of the inside of one of these machines constitutes a security threat (although detailed images and data can be found easily online). In fact, one of the arresting officers even pulled the 9/11 card"
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
The photographer should have tried to leave to see if the guard really would tackle him. Easy lawsuit cash there.
- Dave Roth
with an iPhone no less.
- Thomas Hawk
Dave - i was thinking the same thing. I read this the other day. mind-blowing. He's going to be rich... detained by PD without RAS = $$
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Awesome, and in a bad way. Thanks, Thomas - reshared.
- Anthony Citrano
While I'm big on photographers rights and everything and I think the Wells Fargo dudes and the cops didn't handle it well... what the hell was this guy doing taking a picture of an open ATM? Seems like he was just trying to test them.
- Kenton
@Kenton - so? Or maybe he likes ATMs? I really hate that line of reasoning.. "well, i'm all for photographers rights.. but in this case, the guy really needs to explain himself.." First Amendment rights are not dependent on a good explanation.
- Anthony Citrano
Kenton: it seems they failed the test then.
- Mark H
Using 9/11 is something I expect from the writing staff of Reno 911.
- Rene Wirtz
+1 Mark.
- Anthony Citrano
Wells Fargo is afraid that everyone will find out the inside of the ATM is just a midget with a stack of 20's and a notepad.
- Dave Roth
TH, I scooped you on this. :P http://friendfeed.com/photo-u...
- Rochelle
@Kenton: Why do you assume that he was trying to test them? An open ATM isn't something you see everyday. Lots of people take a photo when they see something that is not part of their normal everyday experience.
- Jeremy Brooks
+1 Anthony.
- Jeremy Brooks
from Shane's blog post: "I took the picture because I’m fascinated by the insides of things that we don’t normally get to see. I did not take the picture to case the joint. I did not take the picture to threaten the safety of the two Loomis fake cops with their bulletproof vests, hip side pistols and very fragile egos. I did not take the picture to make it easier for anyone else to rob this or any other ATM. I just like to see things that I don’t normally get to see."
- Eddie Codel
i've been warned before for standing and watching.. a pissed of man with a gun talked me into it
- andy brudtkuhl
@ Rochelle. Yes you did. :)
- Thomas Hawk
@Mark, you are totally correct. @Anthony and @Jeremy The reason I said what I said is because of the subject matter. When you have armed guards standing around something "protecting" it, they are likely going to be a little protective. Why couldn't he just have asked first? "Hey that's cool, mind if I take a picture?" He says it's because he's interested in such things; that's fine. If he had asked, they *might* have let him get close enough to actually get a picture that was worth it.
- Kenton
As for photographers rights, I am totally for them. I take a lot of pictures and if someone tried to prevent me (and especially harass me like this) I'd pissed off too. However, I do believe in common courtesy. This is not the picture of the outside of a building or a street. This is of two armed guards servicing what is basically the extension of a bank. Had he asked first, I suspect this would have not escalated to nearly this extent.
- Kenton
And if the guards said no, then what? He still has the right to take the photo. I can imagine it escalating even more had they said no and he took the pic anyway.
- Eddie Codel
Actually @Eddie, he doesn't. Technically it's up to REI, but according to the Photographer's Right, if the property owner forbids you from taking a photo, you are obligated to comply. So he should have asked REI if he could take a picture inside their store. It doesn't give them the right to do anything nasty or threaten you or do any of the things they did in this case. However, had he asked and been denied, he would not have had the right to take the photo.
- Kenton
Kenton, it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. :)
- Rochelle
LOL, very true Rochelle
- Kenton
Amazon Kindling, A New Wooden Wireless Reading Device by Cockeyed & EMSL - http://laughingsquid.com/amazon-...
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Almost more classic than the dead sea scrolls http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Reese Jones
So the new trend is building luxury gadgets out of wood? ..where's my MacBook Air, I'd make a great cutting board.
- Philip
Terminator Salvation! Leaked Screener 1/11! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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MonaTweeta II, encoding the Mona Lisa in 140 characters - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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using Chinese characters to send 210 bytes in 140 UTF-8 characters [via]
- Andy Baio
Long Exposure Illuminates the Mind (and Cleaning Path) of a Roomba - http://laughingsquid.com/long-ex...
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Beautifull! I cant help but notice how it seems to confirm my suspicion these things dont hoover the edges of the room very well though
- Robert
Its goodbye Mr Chips as Intel legend stands down - Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...
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From the page: "âÂoeThere are only one billion internet users in the world, which means there are 5.5bn people without the internet,â he says. âÂoeIf you ask any politician, academic or business leader anywhere in the world they will say internet access is the key to future prosperity. The developing world will invest in internet infrastructure and a whole new world of customers will open up.â "
- Ken Kaplan
Ok Veronica, be right there! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Hope they expand soon so i can annoy my friends ;)
- Fee501st
Hah @foursquare answers "they are hustling" to get other cities on. Cool, can't wait to see what's next!
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The iPhone app isn't available in my country (France). It sounds very "location-based", indeed ;)
- Jérôme Flipo
I hope they add Raleigh, NC to the list
- Wayne Sutton
Not in Phoenix. I tried it in Austin.
- Francine Hardaway
"FourSquare Prepping To Take Its Game Overseas" http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Jérôme Flipo
TCHO @ Amazon.com - http://www.amazon.com/gp...
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And then some of San Francisco's best beta-tested chocolate was available on Amazon.com!
- Chris Messina
from Mento
The guy who first showed me Twitter @ekai says all the San Francisco cool kids are on http://playfoursquare.com/ so I did my first checkin today.
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Heading over to take a lookey lookey.
- Mark Traphagen
That's Eddie Codel and I'm at http://playfoursquare.com/user...
- Robert Scoble
But I'm on the Internet....I don't want to meet people for REALS ((shudder))
- Mark Traphagen
I'm not ready to broadcast my physical location to the internet quite yet. Plus, it'll be years before it gets to my city. Maybe I'll be ready by then though...
- Kenton
All the cool kids that are in an Urban location. Yelp could take this on by letting us check in at locations, and show to our friends
- Christian Burns
Nah, that's boring. Unless you're an already bored teenager. Get a life.
- Johan Mellberg
Installing now...the one for Los Angeles. Can make updates from LAX tomorrow. This looks pretty cool so far.
- mrsha
Johan: based on the people who've friended me so far it's definitely the same crowd that made Twitter popular.
- Robert Scoble
If foursquare was enabled for Skagit valley I would be the mayor of Costco Food Court
- Christian Burns
Seems like an odd concept to me
- Angus Burton
LOL says Robert "hasn't done anything yet"..gosh so demanding for an app. At least let us get used to the idea! :P
- mrsha
This is better than Brightkite?
- Morton Fox
not available in the UK store...
- dromologue
Morton: according to the San Francisco cool kids, yes. But Brightkite is different. This is more of a game.
- Robert Scoble
I do anything Robert Scoble says: checking it out ASAP except phone number required? And not even a fulll city listing pffft I've chosen Chicago anyhoo in honor of Barack
- sofarsoShawn
Robert, that's an interesting fact. My negative statement mainly stems from a feeling that it is too involved, doesn't feel like you will have the energy to keep using of when the novelty wears off. I'd speculate that Twitter is popular largely because it is virtually no effort (unless you're trying to make sense of it I guess).
- Johan Mellberg
Johan: not true. Facebook is 20x more popular than Twitter is and it's at least 5x harder to use. Twitter pulled you in because someone you know used it and pulled you into it. I thought FourSquare would die too, but it hasn't. It's been popular with the San Francisco crowd for months and I can see already that it's growing outside of that crowd.
- Robert Scoble
Useless for people who do not live in highly populated areas of the country.
- Edwin Perello
How is this better than or different from Brightkite?
- Scott Breakall
Robert: admittedly I'm a bit odd as I'm still the only one I know IRL that uses twitter so my perspective may be a bit different. I agree that FB is more difficult but the reason for its popularity advantage may well be due to having been around longer. But I also think those two are almost complete opposites in terms of features, usage and so on, thus they are so different that it becomes impossible to compare.
- Johan Mellberg
Ummmm, to echo almost everyone how's this even close to bettering BrightKite?
- sofarsoShawn
sofaroshawn: I think it's the game element that is keeping my friends engaged.
- Robert Scoble
Seems kind of like Xbox achievements for RL? :-D
- Scott Breakall
Foursquare will single handedly bring back our economy. If you're the competitive type, it makes you want to go out all the time.....
- George Smith
hmm, will have a look as well
- Peter Efland
oops, didnt see it was location based.... i'm in brazil.... only thing we got here is Orkut, lol... though people are starting to realize a new trend called facebook hehe... but twitter, friendfeed, brightkite etc... forget it!
- Peter Efland
Boy? Girl? Rather not say? Something tells me I'm not the demographic for this site.
- Kevin Gamble
I don't live in one of the ten cities foursquare knows about. I guess I don't matter. (And does the name 'foursquare' make anyone else think of Aimee Semple McPherson?)
- Pat Rice
To those asking how this is different than Brightkite, I would say it's the gaming layer. Foursquare is by one of the creators of Dodgeball, which Google bought and then killed. You rack up points as you 'check in' to different venues. You also gain achievements in the form of badges when you exhibit certain check-in behaviors. For example, if you check in to the same location 3 times in a week, you'll get the Locals badge. If you are out and about 4 nights in a row, you'll get the Bender badge.
- Eddie Codel
Thanks Eddie - That was my next question and you nailed the answer
- Bwana ☠
Sounds fun
- Bwana ☠
There's a leaderboard to see whose ranking up the most points and you can easily see where your friends have checked in recently. Yes, it's not in that many cities yet and I think the ability for users to add their own cities is a needed way for Foursquare to grow. I'm sure there' some design challenges around that, otherwise it would probably already be implemented. Anyway, bottom line, it's fun! And useful!
- Eddie Codel
this kind of thing makes me tired.
- anna sauce
Agreed, Anna. It would be more interesting if the root page didn't just feature people eating and drinking. There's got to be more to do than that, right?
- Andy Bakun
There was a lot of enthusiasm with Dodgeball, and then with other point-driven games, but really. I mean, I like the randoms scavenger hunt like the next person (Jeanine!!!) still, all combined seems overwhelming (and the reg table was too much)
- anna sauce
Would like to comment more, but it's not a UK thing :(
- Iain Baker
Iain, count yourself lucky. There's definitely the "thrash-factor" in new tech in the bay area.
- anna sauce
Might be fun to sign up, then lie about where I go & what I do. (The truth would only get me a badge that says, "Loser.") How many points could I get before the scam is uncovered? Maybe create two accounts & have them confirm each other's lies.
- Pat Rice
Deploy Your Rails Application in 2 Minutes with Heroku // Elijah Miller - http://jqr.github.com/2009...
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Six Ways You Should Be Using Twitter (that Don't Involve Breakfast) - Lifehacker - http://lifehacker.com/5207514/
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"Twitter has become a nationwide phenomenon, and like any phenom, all the Twitter talk grows quickly tiresome. But despite what you may think, Twitter isn't just for narcissists; it's actually insanely useful."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
"So let's assume that you already know about the navel-gazing uses of Twitter—the aspects of Twitter that most people criticize when they complain about the site. Discounting Twitter altogether because you think it's ridiculous that people tweet about what they had for breakfast is like claiming that email is useless because of forward chains. It's a mistake, and you'd be missing out on a great tool if you let that put you off Twitter completely."
- Kol Tregaskes
If you missed Under the Radar you can see the presentations here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/debland... all organized by company. Cool, me gonna watch all weekend long. Any cool ones?
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How To Watch Movies and Shows on Hulu & Sling from Abroad | MakeUseOf.com - http://www.makeuseof.com/tag...
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"Hulu and Sling are two great websites for watching high quality movies and TV shows. Both offer plenty of movies (see here and here) and a number of currently popular TV shows to choose from. You can even get watche latest epsiodes for popular TV shows like Heroes, House and Prison Break - all without paying a dime. There is nothing to download or install, just find what you want to watch, hit the full-screen button and enjoy. The only problem is that both sites are US-only and not available for users from outside United States. And that’s exactly what this post is all about, how to watch Hulu and Sling videos from outside United States"
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
OMGosh, this actually works, well I've tried Pandora.com. So I might actually be able to listen to Pandora again, wow! I'll try this and Hulu tomorrow, cool!!
- Kol Tregaskes
The only problem is that its supposed to stick an ad in your browser but it looks like all you get in Firefox is a white stripe (probably FrF is blocking the ad, but I cannot Digg anything without getting an error, odd).
- Kol Tregaskes
I wonder If I can get the BBC iPlayer to work here in the US, so I can watch some decent TV?
- Ian May
We use Hotspotshield, but only when other sites don't have it on demand (megavideo for example). It can be annoying: inserted ads + tends to slow down things, but if you absolutely must watch something, it's great
- Duncan Riley
I'd be interested if you get that to work, Ian?
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm finding that Hotspotshield works (Pandora here I come) but stops lots of other sites functioning properly. I have problems on Digg (though not too worried there) and FriendFeed (when I bookmarked something - very worried there ;-)).
- Kol Tregaskes
Lifehacker Top 10: Top 10 Things You Forgot Gmail Can Do - http://lifehacker.com/5103016...
Kelly Johns, Chris Nuttall, Siddharth Deb and 16 other people liked this
"When friends push friends onto Gmail, it usually involves talking up the seemingly limitless storage space, the fast-moving interface, or its inter-connectedness with other Google applications, like Calendar. Those features are all fine and good, but Gmail does a lot of helpful things that some users never get to dig into. From one short web address, you can video chat Skype-style with contacts, ensure you didn't leave yourself logged in elsewhere, help mom gradually migrate from her old dial-up-era email address, and pluck a single message out of tens of thousands"
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
What is your favourite Gmail theme? I'm on Ninja atm.
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm late with my readings... I'm going to check that post. My favourite? ... That Ninja is awesome and I'm using it in one of my accounts. But I really enjoy the Tea House, which I was using in iGoogle, before it went to Gmail too.
- Bibi
I want Gmail to back up my Hotmail. I can't find a free service to do this. :(
- Tamar Weinberg
My preferred Gmail theme is Graffiti, btw.
- Tamar Weinberg
I've just added my Yahoo accounts, not tried Hotmail.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yep ... Just more reasons for me to laugh at everyone still using Yahoo Mail...
- Tyler (Chacha)
I use Gmail for both personal and business email. I pull in my business email using Gmail as a POP3 client. NO local email clients on any of my computers at all, and NO issues with syncing either. I wouldn't use Outlook if they were giving it away, let alone pay for it.
- Ian May
Hatred at a Palin Rally in Johnstown, PA - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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This reality of this video is still hard to fathom.
- Andrew Baron
sounds more like ignorance then straight up hatred
- John Blanton
from twhirl
I'm a republican and this disgusts me
- David Ward
why is this difficult to fathom? the usa has some real ignorant & stupid people. these are your neighbours, cousins, co-workers. they're not an anomaly
- Cee Bee
frightening stuff. ignorance breeds hatred.
- Brad Kligerman
I cant help but wonder if the Republican party is trying to make this happen; Instilling fear and false information into 'the troops', to perhaps get them to rally and spread more misinformation, in the hopes of winning. Hard to imagine that anyone would do this to win, but also, it seems like it's a pretty nasty campaign and now that McCain is this far in the hole, he might be pulling out all stops. He defiantly knows war tactics.
- Andrew Baron
There are some truths about Obama that worry me but I nor any of my Republican friends stoop to this level to make a point. In all fairness, many Democrats have engaged in some pretty ugly acts as well, much of it documented right here on FF.
- David Ward
David, can you point to some video for Dems acting like this? I haven't seen anything like this.
- Andrew Baron
as terrible as this stuff is (and this is not isolated), i think it's important to keep in mind these people are clearly afraid and hurting. whether they have a right to be afraid is not the issue - they are. and they will be after the election. and it will be difficult to move the country forward while they are still afraid. we all have work to do.
- MikeAmundsen
@Andrew: In fairness, I've seen worse stuff said about GWB... but it's usually coming from the 9/11 Truth wingnuts and their ilk.
- Roger Benningfield
is there an obama rally on the other side of the street? it's a bit hard to tell from the video. i agree that what's said in this video is despicable, i just wonder what kinds of comments were coming from the other side of the street.
- Jessie
@Jessie Yes, the counter-rally is shown at the begining of video.
- Ben Jackson
from twhirl
Also, just a nice retrospective on the rage the left has been dishing out over the past 8 years -- http://is.gd/3W1l
- Ben Jackson
That grandfatherly old man at 0:46 with the stuffed monkey is the same guy who famously and sheepishly tried to paw off the animal to a kid when he noticed he was on TV. http://www.dailykos.com/storyon...
- Eddie Codel
so, when's Civil War 2.0 again?
- Enrique Gutierrez
from twhirl
The McCain-Palin Mob - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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wow.
- Alan
Wow is right! This is crazy...when was the first time?
- Anthony K. Valley ©
I can't decide if that's more scary or pathetic.
- vicster is...
I'm going with "scary."
- Alan
This is scarier even than the Drill, Baby, Drill chants.
- Warren Colbert
from twhirl
Partisans are always scary
- Jeff McNeill
That is not cool, are we really like that?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
I am really scared of what happens on Nov. 5. Some of these people are going to completely lose their minds.
- Dave Walker
yikes.
- lisa-k
Break out the shotgun shells Martha! The soap box and ballot box didn't work! Time for the ammo box!
- Ernie Oporto
I approve this message.
- William, CPU Media
I can feel it tingling. That means it is working.
- Jay Cuthrell
With editing skills like this, this guy could work for Micheal Moore
- Robert Hafer
that was crappy incendiary journalism - I'd be embarrassed to publish this let alone like it. The interviewer should ask about the issues to get real discourse.
- David
definitely scary times. racism and insinuation of terrorism are not the way to conduct a meaningful campaign. that would be expecting to much in this country. :(
- Eddie Codel
I have my doubts as to whether individuals like this could engage in real discourse. You have them on both sides, of course, but the Muslim bit is really over the top.
- Cyndy
The first time they heard of Obama or Palin is beside the point. Now that they have heard from both Obama & Palin and they're still voting for Palin, thats what scares me...err wait a second... shoulnd't we be discussing Obama and McCain, or is that just a losing battle for Repubs?
- Greg
Seriously, can't we all just get along? I mean, c'mon!
- Mike Reynolds
Isn't she the proprietor of Wasilla MethLab & Bible Book Store?
- ThePicMan
+1 PicMan
- Cyndy
I saw this video this afternoon and then the lady comments on a Plurk post of mine of all things! She's mamawise on Plurk, so the shame goes on. She had not seen the video evidently until I reminded her and I can only imagine the look on her face then:)
- Roney Smith
These people are worthless but the journalism is pretty awful as well. It's not like you need to act like Moore to get this type of scum to come out with something shockingly ignorant..
- Alexander Carlill
disheartening
- Kim Mahan
Ted Reingold brings it. - http://blog.dogster.com/2008...
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he does - very logical and sane :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Also, I would like to be able to edit my Friendfeed links. Por ejemplo, to fix the spelling of my friend, Ted's, last name in the above link.
- Brian Oberkirch
been a problem/request from way back, you can edit a comment but not original shared item - my guess is its a db thang brian
- mike "glemak" dunn
Hints at an $800 Apple laptop, Bloggers Report, Stock up 4 points - http://technosailor.com/2008...
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told you so
- Jesse Stay
Apple is going to have a brutal Christmas. When you're laid off you aren't about to buy an $800 laptop. If you are forced to buy a laptop, you're going to go for a $300 Netbook.
- Robert Scoble
Or you are going to buy a used one at the pawn shop, eBay, or craigslist.
- Wizetux
My daughter needs to replace her iBook, so I'd buy one as well.
- Paul Rodriguez
Okay... I did it... I applied to acting roles for the first time EVAR! What roles, you ask? A cavegirl & a hipster... ;)
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Break a Leg!
- Santa CW™
A hipster cavegirl would be interesting. Good luck! ;-)
- ronin
How did you apply for the acting role? I have always wanted to just for the laugh?
- Joe Dawson
Break a leg Casey! Fun stuff!
- jcunwired
That is so you! You were made for this role. :)
- Eddie Codel
The Financial Crisis in Pictures: 8 of the Best from Around the Web - http://mashable.com/2008...
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Sad Guys on Trading Floors - http://sadguysontradingfloors.tumblr.com/
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bwahaha hat tip to zach for the link
- Eric Rice
from Bookmarklet
Kassia Meador - surfer girl (900×720) [Derek, Pixdaus] - http://pixdaus.com/pics...
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See surfer girls at GoFeminin.de http://album.gofeminin.de/album... and http://album.gofeminin.de/album...
- Mitchell Tsai
Does anyone know Jillian Mcdonald? She's taking people's photos, photoshopping them & selling prints w/o their permission http://jillianmcdonald.net/project...
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@scott - respectfully - it is cost effective to attribute & associate value to a far more basic granularity of data - a zero or one, even - a question, what makes the image uniquely identifiable? the ability of a friend &/or family to identify the person? curious - what about that person's voice?
- Scott Moskowitz
@scott - respectfully, I have no idea what you just said.
- Scott Beale
Scott Moskowitz are you drunk? that did NOT make any sense.
- Susan Beebe
Flashback to the veep debate!! :)
- jcunwired
which bits are salable in the images she sells? The bits attributable to production (PhotoShop) & which to the recognizability of the subject of the image? Is there something more specific that you believe should or should not be sold without authorization? Mug shot? High school photo? What is *owned* by the subject? - there is an objective solution if the question is better framed - thus I am curious
- Scott Moskowitz
Sorry, they're a "derivative work" and the right to create/own/sell such work vests in the original artist or creator. NOT by the subject, NOT by the modifier.
- Mistletoe Glen
Scott M., seriously, stop talking like this is a damned scientific paper. She's taking people's photos and using them without permission. If she wants to photoshop photos, let her take her own damned photos or pay for the right to use others' photos. End of story.
- Raoul Pop
@scott - My issue is that my photography is being used without permission to create an image that is being sold. It's pretty straightforward.
- Scott Beale
Also, just to clarify, when I said "people's photos", I meant photos that people have taken, not photos of people. Sometimes 140 characters does not quite cut it.
- Scott Beale
another context a person who frequents a bar may be less willing to share basic identifiable information with her camera - the recording of information on her device as captured in image form prior to any production value-add (someone took the captured digitized image & used PhotoShop to allegedly add value) - how much what uniquely identifiable information is *personal*
- Scott Moskowitz
Seriously, I have absolutely no clue what your are talking about. I'm ready to leave it at that.
- Scott Beale
I think Scott M. is a troll. Not a foul-mouthed troll, but a troll nonetheless. Dude, do you not get that photos are being stolen? Are you that obtuse?
- Raoul Pop
stealing photos and selling them is ethically WRONG. period. end of story
- Susan Beebe
Thanks Raoul & Susan, I'm glad to have a bit of sanity in this thread.
- Scott Beale
right on!! that was like a bad acid trip! ha, ha! not that i've ever had any ya know
- Susan Beebe
Scott B, have you contacted her?
- Laura Norvig
Several people have been in contact with her. For the most part she's avoiding any questions about the use of the photos and is now saying that they are not for sale once people started asking her about it.
- Scott Beale
My photos are being use here: http://jillianmcdonald.net/project...
- Scott Beale
and on this poster: http://jillianmcdonald.net/zombie...
- Scott Beale
What's amazing about all of this is that she is a Associate Professor of Fine Art at Pace University, so she should know better: http://jillianmcdonald.net/bio...
- Scott Beale
so I would say the first step would be to contact her and ask her to stop and find out if and how many of the images she has sold. if that doesn't work, have smithers release the law hounds.
- Dave Bullock / eecue
Gregory, so let me get this straight, you think that Michelin creates art, the tires, and that's exactly the same as photos made by a photographer. Um, ok.
- Scott Beale
photography is art. Jillian is ripping off Scott's work = wrong!!! she's not even giving credit where credit is due... so lame
- Susan Beebe
This kind of stuff makes me sick- lack of respect for the artist (from an artist herself!) have you gotten in touch with her Scot? Good luck.
- anna sauce
Better yet, get ahold of the dean at her university... It's making -them- look bad, and that should get you some action of some sort.
- abacab
Did someone just put Scott's photography on the same level as tires?
- Mike Doeff
yes... pathetic
- Susan Beebe
and once again, this is why i stand by my beliefs that Creative Commons is a mess of a system that doesn't work for photography. I understand that you use your photos to promote your other business ventures, but you could still do the same under All Rights Reserved and have more say over the end usage.
- lane hartwell
and I still can't see where she is selling anything. She's just a crappy derivative "artist".
- lane hartwell
I doubt this had anything to do with CC. Also I'm not the only photographer who's work she used. My point is that an established artist and associate professor of fine art should know better.
- Scott Beale
Regarding "selling" part, a friend of ours contacted her about the prints and she said that they were for sale. It was only after she was called out on this that she said that they photos were not for sale.
- Scott Beale
Here's Jill's quote from the email where she responded to my friend who inquired about the prints "There are three different prints, each in a limited edition of 5. If you're interested in prices I can get you those too."
- Scott Beale
Okay, I didn't see the info about selling them. Yes she should know better. It's not right for someone to sell another person's creative efforts without their explicit written permission. I don't know your exact CC license, so I can't say what is and isn't acceptable usage. Again, my issues with CC, it's just not clear.
- lane hartwell
@gregory - that's kind of what I'm thinking as well. So it's okay to make a derivative work of something commercial but if it's another artist it's automatically not okay? That said, the sale aspect could be a slippery slope, but I really don't see how this can be construed any different from Girl Talk's Feed the Animals or any other mash out / derivative work out there. We applaud musical derivative work, but reimagining someone else's visual work is not cool? Really?
- Neil Lee
I haven't talked to her, but when confronted with this by our friends she avoided the issue.
- Scott Beale
Neil Brings up an interesting point. Scott, aside from your noncommercial/attribution license, I'm genuinely curious to learn of your reasoning for going with 'no derivative'. I'm finding myself in a hypocritical trap when comparing my approach to photos vs music. (in terms of mashup culture).
- Mauricio
My 2 cents on the music vs. art thing as a former Music Industry minor. :) In the case of music, anyone can sample songs without the artist's ok, BUT they have to pay them a fee to use it. The artist can say "hey I don't like your stuff, don't use my music", but there is no legal way to stop it from happening if they go through the hoops to credit you for the sample and pay you royalties. (this info is 10 yrs old- dunno if things have changed since then). I'm not sure what rules apply to using art.
- Lorrianne Nault
Mauricio, the answer is simple, I just want them to contact me first. That way I have an idea of what's happening to my work. More importantly the license I use helps me protect the people in my photos. For instance, in this case she simply cut people out of my photos to use for her art.
- Scott Beale
Here's more from Rubin Starset, who contacted the artist. She first told him the prints were for sale, then after everything started to blow up, quickly changed her mind: http://rubin110.livejournal.com/511433...
- Scott Beale
In our modern environment where music is commonly shared - in theoretical violation of copyright and so forth - is it entirely unexpected that someone would go and share photographs with similar disregard? The difference here being that they're making money from it, I suspect. I license my photographs under CC non-commercial because I'd prefer to choose how they're used to make money. I chose the CC NC license in part because I have to accept that people will share my photos like candy - but not sell them!
- Richard Soderberg
Would this be something to potentially escalate and contact the chair of her department and such with? Not that we want to unduly punish someone over a misunderstanding, but our universities and educational institutions pride themselves on students and faculty not plagiarizing their works. While her use is derivative, it still seems to violate the principles of academia as well as the license of the original author.
- Dave Schumaker
(Follow up to my post immediately above) - That said, we're at 7+ hours and counting, and other than being cagey, she hasn't offered up a reasonable explanation yet.
- Dave Schumaker
For what it's worth, I totally support Scott's preference for non-derivative, but I thought the point had to be raised that there's a serious disconnect between what we consider okay vs. what we consider stealing. @dave schumaker - I really, REALLY don't understand what her employer or anyone else connected with her has to do with this.
- Neil Lee
I agree with Neil. Keep Pace out of this a her works are her personal works and not connected to the school she works for. Now the people who commisioned the Zombie performance are far game on the other hand. She is doing her zombie performance as a commisioned work and part of that is the prints and posters that use Scott's photos. So technically she is using his art to make money --...
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- CatCubed
I'm a bit surprised at people bringing up the music analogy. Derivative use of music is also NOT OK - it depends on the length, context, and how significantly it has been altered. You can bet that musicians who have a substantial piece of music ripped off and see others make money off it are not happy and will go after their rights. Better to get permission first.
- Laura Norvig
@raoul did i offend you? "troll"? i am an inventor of digital watermarks, i get it @susanbeebe i don't drink - my question is where does fair use begin - "confusingly similar" standard separate & apart - photographs of individuals is not so clear cut @laughingsquid howard austin feld did some of the same things with work for hire I paid for, so, I posed the question - if you had the ability to know the valued bits, eg, the bits that *caused* payment for the image, would you consider such a technology?
- Scott Moskowitz
@lauran you are correct - i included a person's voice in my long lost query - the permissions include the sound recording, song writer / publisher right, performance & mechanicals (relating to the publishing &/or song writer) depending on the intended use, fwiw ...
- Scott Moskowitz
Jillian Mcdonald http://tr.im/76d not terribly good stuff, but I'm not sure I have moral qualms with it in this day in age. just tonight I stole Tina Feys head right off Google
- Noah David Simon
Fab update on H.R. 7084: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10... Now that the NAB isn't opposing the webcaster bill, things look good for tomorrow in the Senate!
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