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"No ill effects were reported by hundreds of volunteers who took part in a mass-overdose stunt around the world to demonstrate that homeopathic remedies are nothing more than sugar pills. "There were no casualties at all, as far as I know," says Martin Robbins, spokesman for the "10:23" campaign, created to highlight the alleged ineffectiveness of homeopathic remedies. "No one was cured of anything either," says Robbins." - Andrew Terry from Bookmarklet

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I could have told them that. That's not the way homeopathy works. It is the way drugs take effect. They work on two different methodologies. Try again. - Melanie Reed

I also expect things like this now. Watch your history. Every time money is tight you will see big money making industries release "studies" that counter argue the benefits or undermine their competitors in order to get a bigger piece of the economic pie. - Melanie Reed

Melanie - that was the point of the stunt; to illustrate that homeopathy doesn't work, for good *or* bad, and yet they're marketed as "remedies".... - Andrew Terry

Andrew, Homeopathy does work but not on single dose. - Melanie Reed

Ummmm, they're sugar pills; they're no more remedial than a Polo mint. - Andrew Terry

No here's the deal. Homeopathy does have a market and the drug makers want it. And they are doing the same thing they did years ago to under mine the market and yet it came back. Hmmmmmm - Melanie Reed

Now if you want to drugs for everything, that's fine. If I choose to take this, that is my choice and others. But the drug companies don't want you and I to have choice. - Melanie Reed

Just because it has a market doesn't make it legitimate. You can buy spray-on hair, too. - Akiva

It was legitimate before drug companies came in. Please read the history. - Melanie Reed

Does the term "snake oil" mean anything to you, Melanie? - Scoble, Alex Scoble

It's not a matter of history, Melanie. It's a matter of science. Homeopathy has been disproven time and time again. - Akiva

I'm with Melanie on this one, they do work on somethings and if people want them, why can't they? - Faraz Mullick

No one's saying you can't eat sugar pills if you want. - Akiva

@Faraz - I think the opposition is mainly to homeopathy being treated on equal footing with other remedies. (I also think there's a lot of confusion over the term homeopathy, as a lot of people just think that means all natural medicine, which it is definitely not.) - Jennifer Dittrich

Jennifer, good point. I'm a big fan of naturopathy but homeopathy is hogwash. You might as well as believe in some mystical being in the sk... HEY WAIT A MINUTE HERE - Akiva

iirc, the point of the stunt was to prove that homeopathy is a placebo effect and that NHS money (tax money) should not be spent on it - Chris Heath

And just for some good ol' laughs: http://www.b3tards.com/v... - Akiva

Homeopathic medicine is the practice of administering highly diluted quantities of substances that are suspected of causing the same effects as the illness they are intended to treat. So in theory they should have exhibited the symptoms of whatever their medicine was intended to treat. Since they exhibited none, it appears their medicine treats nothing. Thus, a fool and his money part swiftly. - Geoff Schultz {TF}

Wouldn't OD'ing on homeopathic 'remedies' be achieved by diluting it even more, though? Natural remedies are fine when they can be proved to work, Akiva. I don't think that's what people generally mean when they refer to naturopathy. You can still be a fan, of course - Eivind

Eivind, you don't think that naturopathy is what people mean when they refer to naturopathy? - Akiva

Perhaps, as Joel, presented on another thread this is a terminology problem. It's not that you are saying natural remedies don't work its that the term to many of you of homeopathy has lost credibility according to your perception of it. - Melanie Reed

Um, no. Homeopathy has a very specific definition in this case. Homeopathy != Natural medicine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Jennifer Dittrich

Homeopathy, as it is defined, has no credibility not because of my perception but because of scientific studies on it. Naturopathy and homeopathy are not the same thing. - Akiva

But again, this is about money.And were all "homeopathic/naturopathic" remedies were removed, the drug companies would begin to devour each other. - Melanie Reed

At this point, personally, let the will of the people take place. If I and others who want different have to pay or do without, I accept that. - Melanie Reed

I seriously doubt the drug companies are all that worried about homeopathic products. If they actually worked, they'd produce them themselves. But since they don't, they know that people who take them will eventually get sick enough to need proper pharmaceutical medicine in the long run. - Akiva

Uh? Why would they consolidate even more than they already do. I have a feeling the board member that brings up the word Homeopathy in a discussion regarding competition gets laughed out of the room. - Geoff Schultz {TF}

As far as I can tell, no one on this thread is actively calling for naturopathic remedies to be removed at all (some are singing its praises). The two terms are not interchangeable, even if that has become common usage. - Jennifer Dittrich

Akiva, I meant I don't think naturopathy is just about proven natural remedies. If that was the case you could just call it medicine. No one is trying to use as much synthetic medicine as possible. - Eivind

Eivind, there are many types of medicine, each classified according to its kind: natural, antibiotic, et al. They're all medicines. Now, having written that, I certainly don't believe that all natural remedies are worth a damn and some may have an effect but not enough. My argument here is that there is science that backs up the effects of naturopathy and there is none that backs up homeopathy. - Akiva

I agree on science based medicine, Akiva. This is what I'm thinking of when I hear naturopathy, though (you may just think about science based natural remedies like aspirin): http://www.quackwatch.com/01Quack... - Eivind

Akiva, I respect your argument. But Science doesn't always tell the truth. It has a percentage rate of arriving at something that appears to be true as far as it is known at that moment. That is why you will have problems with medicines that are scientifically founded but have to be recalled later. Alex, Yes, I do know the difference between something that has worked for me and "snake oil". :) - Melanie Reed

Naturopathy is in the same psuedo-science league as homeopathy; nothing that can stand up to scientific testing and scrutiny. - Andrew Terry

And then the inevitable: "We're sorry but we didn't know as much but then please trust us now because we know so much more." - Melanie Reed

Anecdotes "doesn't always tell the truth" either, Melanie. What has worked for you sounds like the placebo effect, and that can be achieved with snake oil. - Eivind

Eivind, If it goes on for three years or more with no change but they are made worse by the doctors and their drugs what should we do? - Melanie Reed

I would do some research into other proven treatment methods, but of course medicine can't fix everything. - Eivind

Bingo! Eivind. That is why people turn to alternative medicine. Why did you not consider that I and others have been doing that? - Melanie Reed

"But Science doesn't always tell the truth" - no, but unlike pseudo-science, Science is built upon the framework of change. Once a theory is proven not to be sound it is discarded. Homeopathy is NOT Science, because even in the clear light of being shown to be a hoax, its adherents continue to support it. - iTad from fftogo

Melanie, the key word there is "proven." Homeopathy has been proven to have no effect at all besides the effect one gets from sugar pills. - iTad from fftogo

Tad - great point. That's an important, and often overlooked, aspect of science-based medicine - chemists and doctors *know* they don't have all the answers and that's what continues to drive them forward, with research and testing. - Andrew Terry

I think what is not being said as well is that until you have been in the situation and been sick that long, its hard to see the other person's point of view. - Melanie Reed

And my guess is that Homeopathy is pretty static... because it's a hoax. - iTad from fftogo

Melanie, I agree with that statement, but it has nothing to do with the efficacy of homeopathy. - iTad from fftogo

Thanks Tad and as I said, I am willing to forgo anyone paying for what alternative medicine I choose to take. And if I can't afford it then I'll do without. Because I never want to go back to the mess I got into going from doctor to doctor and being made worse. At some point, logic kicked in and saw my finances being drained and I wasn't getting better but only worse. And the ironic... more... - Melanie Reed

Well, while I'm no fan of homeopathy, the blanket statement that it does not work is not specifically true. There are instances where it is very effective. Case in point: I live in the boonies where poison ivy is rampant. I start each spring taking small doses of poison ivy extract, and can then roll naked in the stuff without an outbreak. Before I discovered this, I could walk by and itch for a week. - JCunwired

Alternative/natural treatment is a different story altogether. There are many, many areas where the natural alternative is more effective than medical treatment. But then, that's not the argument here. - JCunwired

Melanie, same situation here. I spent a year and a half with serious disruption of bodily function, and at the end of it all drs said they couldn't help. Two weeks after seeing an herbalist highly regarded for her alternative methods, I was cured. Details via PM only. - JCunwired

You're not describing homeopathy there, jcunwired. The homeopathic remedy would be water that 'remembered' being in contact with the poison ivy extract. - Eivind

Eivind, I appreciate what you are saying and you and I must have different homeopathic reference books. I think mine must be "old" because none of my homepathic books use that description or even advocate it. - Melanie Reed

You don't believe in "potentization", Melanie? Maybe we are talking past each other then. - Eivind

Eivind, I think its the latter conclusion. :) - Melanie Reed

Most allergy medication that's administered in a doctors office (subcutaneously) is small doses of the allergen, and I have had doctors recommend that I eat honey from a local beehive to help with spring allergies (because the local flower pollen gets in the honey), but those are NOT Homeopathic remedies. Homeopathic is when they take something that causes an ailment, run water over it,... more... - Lindsay

Lindsay, it appears that it needs to be said again that apparently homeopathy is a general term that many of us (for the past 20 years I know of and during the time I was the editor of Southern Indiana HEAL a part of the national HEAL(Human Ecology Action League dealing with issues related to chemical sensitivities and complex allergies) in Atlanta and wrote about this) have understood... more... - Melanie Reed

Recently someone I know posted something that seemed interesting about water memory, the idea that water can retain some chemical properties of a solution regardless of how dilute the solution had become. This is supposedly the mechanism at work with "mother water" and its dilutes that makes homeopathy possible. Apparently a skeptical scientist named Madeleine Ennis conducted an... more... - Jason Wehmhoener

Melanie, are you talking about something other than Homeopathy, as described on Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... That seems to be what everyone else is talking about, and it certainly seems to be a complete and total hoax. - iTad from fftogo

Tad, there appears to be a difference between ancient homeopathy and modern homeopathy. One seems to have the jury still in somewhat where the other feels certain the jury is having dinner at Denny's. ;) At any rate, the real argument is about money and where it should go in health care. The sub argument is about the efficacy or non-efficacy of homeopathy. We are treading difficult... more... - Melanie Reed

I'm sorry Melanie - you totally lost me on all that. The original discussion was centered around whether or not Homeopathy was a fraud. As for money in healthcare, especially tax payer money - certainly none of it should go to proven hoaxes. A hoax alternative is NOT an alternative. - iTad from fftogo

Tad, that is my point: would you really feel that strongly (and did you before?) about homeopathy if it were not for the health care debate and the possibility of your tax dollars going to fund it? Would it not really be just a minor (if that) annoyance that it existed? - Melanie Reed

There is no debate about the efficacy. There is not, and never, in the entire history of the universe, has there ever been a double-blind peer-reviewed study that showed any efficacy of homeopathy beyond placebo effect. Whether it's public or private dollars, it's still fraud and should be prosecuted as such. - I like big Botts

Of course I would Melanie. I hate when "psychics" dupe people out of money in their frauds as well. Anything that masquerades as science which clearly isn't gets on my nerves. However, to your point, I suppose I'd be willing to allow Homeopathy to exist as long as its practitioners are required to clearly state that its effects are placebo in nature and that no taxpayer money ever go to it. - iTad from fftogo

I'm with Glen. This stuff is pure nonsense. Just because fools and their money are easily parted doesn't mean it should be legal. - Matt M (inactive)

Blind allegiance to "science" is hogwash. You might as well as believe in some mystical being in the sk... HEY WAIT A MINUTE HERE - *misquotes Akiva* - Laura Norvig

By Melanie's reasoning, I can take advantage of the poor choices of seniors and start bilking them out of their retirement savings. I'd hate to see the nanny state get involved in the personal choices of seniors. - Matt M (inactive)

Laura N, That is another concern I have: blind allegiance to science. It is coming to that and I find that very disturbing as they have been wrong so many times with dire results to many. They certainly were in my case as they were when they convinced my parents to remove my tonsils. As they were when they misdiagnosed me for a number of years. As they were when they misdiagnosed a... more... - Melanie Reed

There's nothing wrong with gambling on unproven alternatives when the statistically beneficial solutions aren't working (though not with tax dollars), but alternative solutions should be properly labeled, with no false claims. But the pure modern definition of homeopathy is BS and should be illegal to claim benefits beyond placebo and entertainment value. - Tinfoil 2.0

Melanie, you make it sound like "science" is one hive mind with *one* opinion on every subject. I'm sorry about your friend, but your anecdotes doesn't prove anything else than that doctors aren't perfect. People have been misdiagnosed in the past and people will be misdiagnosed in the future. Misdiagnosis are nearly always human errors made because doctors don't posses all the... more... - Eivind

Eivind, I would like to respond to this more fully but I have an apt coming up that I need to prepare for so I'm going through things quickly. With respect, my concern is that over the past few years, science has raised her self into thinking that she is the "mother of all disciplines" and her mistakes which are at times tragic and gargantuan are often glossed over and blame shifted.... more... - Melanie Reed

science is a process, not a tool. i think you're projecting a bit melanie (science as god?) - any mistakes made by man in pursuit of truth using science are just that - mistakes made by man. the scientific method is a process that has been proven to be the most reliable and successful method of thinking in known history. if a doctor doesn't make the correct diagnosis that's not... more... - Chris Heath

It is interesting to note that "New Scientist" is reporting on this event that is essentially a stunt, hardly a controlled and repeatable experiment with verifiable results. - Jason Wehmhoener

Wow, New Scientist, welcome to the present. - Akiva

Hmm, say what? - Jason Wehmhoener

A homeopathic treatment for AIDS: 1 drop of AIDS tainted blood in the ocean. Everyone infected person the world takes a sip. No more AIDS (now does that seem even slightly credible to you, because it sure doesn't to me) - April

Melanie, for matters of fact and reason, there is no other basket in which to put our eggs. - Tinfoil 2.0

LogEx, After a time, you may too find, that when facts don't always add up and reason alone can wind us up in circles, we always have a higher wisdom to which we can appeal if we want to. The relief one finds is that we are not stuck with only one fragile basket of our own making. So that when there is something we can't see or understand, we don't always have to grope for it in the dark where our instruments crude or sophisticated could miss it, we could ask. - Melanie Reed

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Little-known fact: For a brief time I was the designer for GeoCities. I only reveal now in honor of their shutting down. Farewell.

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So you were in charge of the little shovel man! - Spidra Webster

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I have lots of fond memories of GeoCities. Thanks for helping making it happen! - Arlan K.

RT@MSim: Fwd: Loving http://www.xkcd.com/ 's redesign in honor of GeoCities' demise (via http://ff.im/ayfiF) - rowlikeagirl

Oh it had already happened by the time I got there. I helped them with a redesign of their Page Creator, Site Creator, and file management tools. The glory that is GeoCities design was entirely of its users' making. GeoCities was made of people. The original MySpace. - Kevin Fox

We were your competitors over at FreeServers. My Uncle founded Freeservers.com :-) - Jesse Stay

BTW, for some odd reason Freeservers is still up (owned by United Online, owners of NetZero, etc) - Jesse Stay

Kevin, whoa! - Micah

We used to talk about creating what would now be called a social network at Freeservers. Not sure what happened to that. I guess it's no surprise we didn't see anything considering they're owned by the owners of Classmates.com :-) - Jesse Stay

Of course the big thing back then was becoming the next "Portal" - Jesse Stay

Yeah. It was ironic that when I started at Google they were very wary of becoming the next 'Portal' where portal meant 'walled garden'. In actuality, a portal is a thing that you go through to get from where you are to where you're going, and in that context Google was already more of a portal than any of the other major players, but terms shift... - Kevin Fox

yeah, funny especially considering iGoogle, etc. - Jesse Stay

Well, that was way before iGoogle. But even then the idea of a dashboard was more appealing to Google than a walled garden of content. - Kevin Fox

Rock on, Kevin. Looking forward to your next big thing. twss. - Josh Haley

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Microsoft canceled silverlight????

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Huh? I think they're canceling the streaming service, not the software itself. - Jennifer Dittrich

ohhh - Anthony Farrior

to be exact, MSFT is canceling the streaming service which will be replaced by a new coming service which will run on Windows Azure - Vincent RITHNER

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huh? - mikepk

The Olympic silverlight stream was successful...sorta. Maybe they know something we don't... - Anthony Farrior

I don't think has much to do with what was cancelled - Richard Lawler

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there should be a "love" option for things like this. lol - shaun mclane

Great example of how the FF culture was a big part of growing a love for the service that will no doubt be eaten by the FB dragon. - Mark Krynsky

++Mark - vijay

Awwwww - Susan Beebe from iPhone

Will this be the butterfly? - Jesse Stay

Bump for the good times. - Mark Krynsky

Jesse roflol! - Melanie Reed

Jesse wins! - Micah

Cristo, not enough. It was in December of 2007. :) - Louis Gray

FriendFeed has never released user statistics, to my knowledge. - Louis Gray

I forgot about this one, a true classic. I need to have a high-trafficked site just so I can pull out gag logos. - Vezquex

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Yes, Facebook, thank you so much for your *amazing* suggested friend feature. A grandmother type with a crazy sweatshirt and another with her pants pulled down around her ankles. I'm so impressed with your uncanny ability to find just my type of new friend.

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I thought these were suggestions made by other people not the automatic "you know their friends so you must know them" method? - caj needs a haircut

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That was my understanding too. These are friends your friends suggest. Interesting circles you run in; I can't imagine a real person putting that rear shot as a profile pic on fb. - Kenley Neufeld from iPhone

sometimes I acidently end up accepting these as they feel just like actual friend requests. That bottom new friend might take some explaining to my wife. Facebook ought to consider letting users turn this feature off if they'd like. I know I'd turn it off. - Thomas Hawk

That's hilarious. I always get recommended people I already know that are new to FB - Francine Hardaway

The really question is did you friend either? - RAPatton

haha, no, neither. I was tempted to friend the grandmotherly type since we've got 12 mutual friends but I have no idea in blazes who she is. - Thomas Hawk

I'm more impressed with the 305 messages in your inbox. - The original Kevin

I'm so terrible with my email/flickrmail/facebook mail. I try and try and just can't keep up with it all. - Thomas Hawk

I have 587 unread messages in my Facebook inbox. I actually read all them through e-mail, and there's no good way to mark all as read. Facebook sucks for e-mail-like communication (as does Twitter). - Jesse Stay

At least facebook should not show the same suggested friends again and again once we hit X on it but it does show them repeatedly. Very annoying :( - Muhammad Ahmed

Facebook is so lame - just sayin. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

#Friend #FAIL - Susan Beebe

i currently have 4647 unread messages on facebook :/ lol - Geoff Jackson

What a contrast. - Carolyn Chan

4647 is alot Geoff. I hate all forms of email myself actually. It feel burdensome feeling that you have to respond to someone or risk offending them. I much prefer interacting with people directly in forums like FriendFeed or DMU on Flickr in public than one on one. Email should be reserved for things that really do need to be kept private. - Thomas Hawk

LOL...What would you do w/o FB? - Tammy Marshall

Tamara: Use My Space? lol - Geoff Jackson

Thomas: Yeah my Facebook is pretty hectic and I although I do read my messages on there, I can not keep up with them at the rate they come in. I rarely use email at all these days though unless it is to send files to someone. I just hope one day i will not have to find an old message on Facebook, haha - Geoff Jackson

I am so with you. It's annoying. I spend the most time on Facebook x-ing out people I've never heard of that might be my friends. It gets better. Yesterday I got a notification - where my high priority Scrabble and Lexulous pings turn up - of some guy, never heard of him either, that had just joined FB and did I want to suggest friends. WTF? - Cathleen Rittereiser

it seems to periodically (weekly?) refresh the suggested friends.... - Jason A. Samfield

Eric

You ever want a big bowl of cereal late at night?

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yes, it is as normal as fleeting sadness and getting horny at inopportune moments. - Joe The Sausage

Dude, scrambled egg sandwiches. - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)

Nutella on toast, too! - Joe The Sausage

Hecks Yeah. - Rah-PM 2012

Cereal is my favorite late night snack....as long as it's not junky...and there are bananas involved. - suzanne from iPhone

Yep. Lately it's an excuse to eat dried blueberries - Rodfather

fairly frequently - Bren

Yep, in fact... ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

only when it's cocoa pebbles! - Liana Shanes

yes, and also high in fiber, and also .... um... well thats all you need to know. - Mike Nencetti

Yup. Frosted Flakes - MicahBear78

all the time! Cheerios. - Brent

Yeah, frosty flakes are my fav too. Fist bump to all the cereal eaters. - Eric from iPhone

about to have me a bowl of Thanksgiving Cheerios! - Brent

Yep, actually there's a study out that claims it helps you sleep better. - Melanie Reed

Brent, that's right your Thanksgiving is this Monday, isn't it? - Melanie Reed

Mohomed roflol - Melanie Reed

@ Melanie it certainly is. why? i don't know. as we're further north, we had/have an earlier harvest? - Brent

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lol - Brent

yup - MiniMage, enterRUPPted

OK, I'm about to go in. Brand new box of Frosted Flakes. - Eric

Yep just had some - orionstarr from iPhone

Who doesn't? - dthree

I would love to have one now, but there's no milk in the house... - Bren

Didn't tonight... until now. - SAM

I eat cereal every night and I'm not the only one doing it in my house :) - ayca

Bren, if you have any peanut butter, rice, oatmeal, or nuts in the house..with a little water and a blender you have milk. - Melanie Reed

look at you being industrious, Melanie! :) I would never have thought of that - Bren

Bren, actually, less industrious than pragmatic. When I was on macro and trying to rebuild my immune system, I had to avoid cow's milk and make everything from scratch. I learned a lot from a lot of people who helped me - Melanie Reed

pretty cool, either way Melanie :) - Bren

I'm glad I could contribute to the decline of society SAM. - Eric

?? :/ - SAM

Just an expression.9 - Eric from iPhone

That's hard hitting question...Depends, what kind of cereal? - The Real sofarsoShawn

So Shawn, what would be your preferred cereal? - Eric from iPhone

Something with craisins. You know like raisins but cranberries. Nom. - The Real sofarsoShawn

Which cereal has Crasins? - Eric from iPhone

Kashi? - Joe The Sausage

Cranberry husks, used to be throw away stuff, and they figured out a way to flavor it. I like them too. - Eric from iPhone

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It is amazing how closely the fight for national parks is similar to the fight for health care reform.

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@scobleizer ... and how underreported it is? - Prolific Programmer from IM

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Not sure about that but the tactics against both are almost the same. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

It's hard to think about how so many things could be solved, as there is maybe 10% difference in beliefs, yet the tendency is to act 100% opposed and make politics personal. It's been a very frustrating devolution to watch. - Louis Gray

Are you watching the PBS Ken Burns series on National Parks? - Andrew Smith

Yes - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Seems the opponents of both--and they are the same people--have an integrated strategy. - Dennis Jernberg

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"The tight ends are ready for penetration. Everyone was there." I can't make this shit up if I tried. #iloveNFLcommentary

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I'm not even gonna say anything. - Derrick

I thought Madden retired... - Julian

cankles are where you get most of your power. - jambina

Fantasy football, Derrick? - Your Neighbor Steve

Dear penthouse... went to a football game... - Fossil Huntress

Robert Scoble

@bradleyjoyce nope, FriendFeed's search goes all the way back to when I started on that service. Unlike Twitter search.

September 22, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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That's comforting to know. - Steven (optionshiftk)

Robert Scoble

Welcome Ryan!

September 19, 2009 from email - Comment - Like - Share

گاما, حُسین‍‌ آفلاینـ, Yunus Yalçınkaya and 508 other people liked this

Congrats Robert... best wishes to all - Rhys Amos

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Congrats. Now the fun begins!!! - Mike Shields

Awesome! - dstamand

Congratulations! - Stephan Planken

Congratulations! Welcome, Ryan! - Lance M. Brown

Awesome - RetiredTeacherD

Yay! Congratulations! - Jesse Stay

YAYAYAYAYAY! Congrats to you and Maryam!@#!@#! - drew olanoff

congrats Robert and Maryam, Welcome Ryan. - rick

Welcome to the world. - Dave Mora

Congratulations!!! - Mike Doeff

!!! - sean percival

Born 11:32. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Yay! Congratulations to you and your wife! Now off to buy RSS and iPhone - Lise

Congrats!!!!! - Mark Evans

Congratulations! - Kenneth

I hope you're well rested, Robert ... ;-) - Hieronymus Murphy

Congrats Robert! - Charlie Anzman

Congratulations! - Antoniu

Congratulations! - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)

Congrats to you all - JanLawrence

Congrats Robert and welcome RSS! - Robb Brock

Congratulations! Happy Birthday Ryan! Lots of love to the whole family. - Jodi Church

SUBSCRIBED! - drew olanoff

Hello World! - CannonGod

Congratulations!! Welcome to the world Ryan!! :) - Laura Zickus

<rss> awesome! </rss> - sean percival

welcome to the new world little one! all hail our pink squirming screaming overlord! - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

20.5 inches long. 7 lbs. 13 oz. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

nice alpha version. welcome RSS ! - Kaïs Miled

congrats!! welcome rss! - Barbara R. S.

Congratulations :) - امیرعباس

RSS is finally here! Congrats Robert & Maryam - Dennis Jernberg

Congrats Robert... best wishes to all - joupy

Congratulations! - Aaman (Clone of FF)

Blessings, and the best Robert! - Nakeva Corothers

Cute! - Charlie Anzman

مبارک باشه Congratulations - آقای هامد

Congrats!!! - Jim Williams

Grats! - Denverken

مبارکه رفیق رابرت . خدا حفظش کنه - جـوان ایرانی

If Dave Winer comes on here and claims to have invented RSS I will smack him. - drew olanoff

Congratulations! - joey

Congratulations and all the best. - Bryce Roney

Welcome Ryan!!! - Phil

Welcome Ryan :) - giuseppe c. | markgreene

Awesome. Congratulations! - John McCrea

Congratulations! - anna sauce

Congratulations :) Welcome Ryan :) - Mohamed Marwen Meddah

Congrats, Imagine where RSS and the web will be when he turns 30! - James Watters

Congratulations to you both. - Don McAllister

congrats Robert and Maryam :))))) - CNFRMST

congrats to the family!! - erik yuzwa

Welcome to RSS in Pubsubhub mode :) - Ouriel Ohayon

Congrats to you all!! We had our second child, a boy, on Tuesday. Enjoy!! - Alex Cordiner from iPhone

Yay! Congrats to you, but mostly congrats to your wife for doing all of the hard work. ;-) xo - Jennifer Leggio

Mazel Tov! - Robb Vaules

Congrats Robert....wishing all the best to your family.... - Carlos

Congratulations! Wow! Seems like we were there just the other day! Looking forward to your late-night feeds and tweets and blog posts! - Louis Gray

You rock! Congrats. Thanks for sharing. How's mum doing? - Steve Lacey from iPhone

Congrats Robert - It is a fine family.... - Simarprit Singh

"beautiful new baby" by Robert Scoble, photojournalist. I stepped away for coffee and bang! RSS - Brian Hendrickson

nice! - Josh Haley from iPhone

Thank you so much for sharing - Sherrie Belken

:) congrats - Shandiz

Born on Talk like a Pirate Day, too! Yarrrr! - Josh Haley from iPhone

congrads ms & mr scoble, :) - chaz2b

congrats!! ^_^ - Christine Lu

Steve: mum is sleeping but got to hold Ryan. Instant love! - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Welcome, Guest dear to our world / Now the world is on your own - CNFRMST

that feels good - Brian Hendrickson

Congratulations! - Parth Awasthi

Congratulations. Hope Maryam iis doing well - Rachel Clarke

Congratulations! Wish him all the best! - philos

Welcome Baby Ryan!!! My baby Ryan (17 years!) and I are honored to welcome another superstar to our planet! Love, hugs, and lots of kisses to Baby Ryan, Mommy Maryam, Dad Robert and big brothers Milan & Patrick and of course Grandma!!! My guess on Ryan's arrival (predication) was only 23 hours off. I thought he would arrive on Friday, Sept. 18th at 11:45 pm. Love to all, Kelly & Ryan Kim - Kelly S. Kim

Congrats, Robert and Maryam. - Derrick

Congratulations Robert, and well done Maryam! You are truly blessed :) - Nicola Quinn

So happy for you Robert and Maryam. Yeay...another FF baby! - Mark Krynsky

Congratulations! - Surachart Opun

What a moment, eh? I remember when my daughter came into this world, it was so exciting there were no words for it. Congrats on your wonderful baby boy! - Michael J. Carrasquillo

Congratulations - testbeta

Congratulations! Welcome to the world, Ryan. :-) - Yvette Ferry

Congratulations Robert and Maryam! And welcome Ryan. If I was having a baby today, I'd begin a blog for him/her straight away as an online diary they could look back on when grown up. - Technogran

he's so cute... - Sinem Vural

Robert, Congratulations to you and Maryamie! - Mike Fruchter

Wow, congrats to all of you! - Paul Salzman

Congratulations to you both! - Forrest W. Kobayashi

Great news guys! All the best! - Chris Nixon

الهــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــی چقده ناز نازیه.اینو فارسی نوشتم مریم جان بخونن ....راستی به باباش که نرفته:)) خوشگلتره:)) پس به شما رفته - joupy

congratulations!! - Jeroen De Miranda

Congratulations to you and your wife Robert! - Randy

Congrats Robert! - Terry Jones

congratz and welcome RSS! - Jon Winters

Congrats Maryam :-) - Terry Jones

Felicitations and humble prayers for your new son. - Victor Panlilio

congrats and best wishes! - Mike Chelen

Congratulations Robert! Welcome Ryan! - Jeff P. Henderson

Congrats!! - Tan Kaiquan

congrats and best wishes to all. :) - Naor Mark

I was a c-section six week preemie in an era when that was seriously life-threatening, they didn't know if I would make for the first week. It always gets me a see a c-section / preemie come howling into the world. Welcome, little guy! - Bob Morris (polizeros) from iPhone

Beautiful baby! Congratulations daddy man :) - Gary

:) Congrats Robert... best wishes to your family! Get her name in twitter and ff! - Business Blogger 【ツ】™

Congratulations to you and Maryam! - Elwin Witzke

AmazinG!! congratulations :) - Nakul

cutie pie baby - Debby Bruck

Ryan, good to see you. - Burçak Çubukçu

تولدش مبارک ^_^ Congratulations! - ‎‎Emad

Warm wishes and congratulations. Love that you posted him crying. - Irene Koehler

Congratulation to all of you! All the best for baby ryan!!! - Arne Krueger

Congrats to both of you :) - zephyrlily

Congratulation....best wishes to all - Opium

woooow like :) - کلـیـشه

Congrats M. & R. - Giuseppe M.

Congrats Robert and Maryam, Welcome to geekdom Ryan! - Andrew Wardlaw

Contrats!!! I'm so excited!! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Congrats.That pic brings back memories of my own baby's birth only ten months ago. C-section baby boys rock! - Georgiana Comsa

Mazel Tov to you and Maryam. - Michael Markman

Congrats... a few more Scobles make the world a better place ;-) - Aad 't Hart

Congrats... and Welcome Ryan. Good to have you among us. - Sativa

Congratulations! I - Michael Fidler

Wonderful news. Congrats. - Keri

Congrats Robert, and the best to you, Maryam, and of course Ryan! - Chris Charabaruk

Congratulations Congratulations !! - Farzad

Congrats - Sandeep Swaminathan

looking to to the same in 3 weeks - ROBIN SMITH

Congrats on the blessed event! :D - Joel Lovato

Congrats Robert and Maryam. Welcome Ryan !!!!!!!!! - Nir Ben Yona

Congratulations, Robert! - Mark Trapp

Congratulations to Robert and Maryam. - George Hall (Australia)

Right ON! I am so happy for you. I have 4 kids of my own and they are my greatest joys. Take care and I hope all goes so smooth for him and mom. - Robert Anderson

Daddy Scobleizer!!!!!!!!!! First things first....when will he be signed up for Twitter and FF? - krystyl

Congrats!!! - eric susch

welcome Ryan, it's a beautiful world - Michele Costabile

Congrats!! - Olivia Lovag

Congrats to the Scoble family from South Africa! Welcome to the world @RSS - Shaun Trennery

Congrats, Robert! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Congratulations Robert, and welcome Ryan! - ↂGiorgiँ Zarrelliↂ

Congratulations Robert and R.S.S.: "Hello World" Cheers! - Louis Trapani

warmest congratulations - Peter Holland

what a beautiful baby=)Congratulations=) - Candan Celik

Such a miracle and a blessing - Congratulations to you and Maryam and "big" brothers! - Marla Schulman

Congrats, Robert. Amazing pictures! - Jordi Soler

Congratulations to all of your family! Enjoy! - Ed Richardson

Congratulations ... enjoy! - Hitesh Parashar

Congratulations!!!! He's beautiful! Welcome little one! I'm proud to share a birthday with you! - Martha

Congratulations Robert and Maryam! Welcome to the world Ryan :-) - Rasmus Lauridsen

happy birthday BABY - ≤ M@RzI

Best congratulations!!!! :) - CantorJF

Congrat Robert. It is wonderful what this new media could do to share your joy! - Gianto Widianto

congrats! - Pradhap Nirmal Natarajan

Congratulations! - Steve Garfield

به به . قدم نو رسیده مبارک مریم جان . خیلی نازه :) - RokhSaare

Hope the baby and mum are well. Congratz. Happy Ied Mubarak =) - ciw

WoW,Congratulations! - atalmatal from MojiPage

Congrats on the blessed event! Welcome to the world, Ryan - Jazz Baker

Congratulations! - Vicarbott

Congrats :) - Maryam Ardakani from FreshFeed

He was delivered by a Blue Man? - paul mooney

Congrats Robert. It's allways a special moment. I still have my child birth in my memory! - Rui

What a happy day! A healthy new Scoble and mom. - Dave Winer

آخي ، بچته ؟؟؟ مبارك باشه تو روز به اين عزيزي به دنيا اومده ، بت نميخوره بچه انقدري داشته باشي شيطون - غلام یحیی

My goodness, congratulations! - DGentry

Congrats! - Ivo Mortani

Congratulations!! and best wishes - Johni Fisher

congrats! - Il fu mass

Congratulations! I hope everyone's ok?! - Holger Eilhard

حاجي خانومت ايرانيه جدي ؟؟؟ پس خيلي مباركه ديگه - غلام یحیی

Congratulations, Scoble family! - scherbi: bottom dweller

wonderfull - Claudio - braciolanet from BuddyFeed

Congratulations to you and your family Robert! A very handsome baby boy! Cant wait to see more pictures! - TiffanyCarr

Congratulations, Robert. - motownmutt

Congratulations! - :: Kim Sherrell ::::

congrats :) - £lham

مبارکه :) - خیزران

Congrats! - Roozbeh

Congrats to Robert and Maryam! - Bec Rowe @d0tski

WooHoo! My best to the whole family. I hope Maryam is getting some rest after all that hard work! - Robert Couture

Congrats to you and your fam, Robert :) - LANjackal

Ryan was born when the Berlin Marathon was finishing. Perhaps he'll be a long-distance runner. Congrats. - Carl Jacobsen

Congratulations to you and the wife, Robert! Job well done. I see he is gonna take after his Daddy! ;-0 ,hehe:-) - Duliece

One more congrats won't hurt, right? Thanks for sharing the pics. - Kevin Sablan

Congratulations :) - A35G

Congrats - Exciting & now the fun begins :-) - PXLated

Wishing you and yours the best on this wonderful day! Congratulations! - DJ Stevie Steve

Congrats on the RSS feed update :) I hope you've pinged both rsscloud and pubsubhubbahubba ! - Ahsan Ali

Starting today. Sleep will be nothing more than a fond memory. :) Congrats. - Richard

Congrats! - Herb Hernandez from iPhone

Congrats! - {o şimdi candarma! }

Congrats Robert!! - Taehoon Kim

Congratulations! - Thomas Hawk

Congratulations to all! - malackey

fantastic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - michele ficara 

Awe!! Congrats =) - Brodie Beta

Congratulazioni!! ^______^ - Andrea | amnesiak1978

congrats!! - clarita

Welcome Ryan! Congratulations Robert and family! - Tim Probst from iPhone

Congratulations!!! God bless.... - Bob DeMarco

Congrats! - Jason Williams from iPhone

Congratulations Robert, Maryam and Milan! All the best to the four of you. - Eiso Kant

Congratulations :-) - Jalada

Congrats! Enjoy. - Jim Peake

Congrats - Bee

Congratulations!! - Paolo Leonardi

Congratulations! - John (bird whisperer)

Congratulations. - Ashish

oooww wonderfulll :)) - Ucandepik

Well done, my son's name as well. - Robert Kenney

Congratulations - Caleb Scribner

Congrats - Manuel Mas

Congrats! Best wishes to you, Ryan and all your family! - Lenny Post

congrats ^_^ - Furkan Tunalı

Conga Rats! - Michael R. Bernstein

Wonderful! Enjoy! - Alan Morris

Hello! - N.G. Gordon - RadarSync

Absolutely wonderful. Welcome to the world Ryan! - Loren Heiny from iPhone

Congrats :) - Hasan Al Shehabi

Congratulations to both of you. - Roberto Bonini

Congratulations to everyone! He looks healthy! I am sure you must all be very happy! ;) - Altan Khendup

Congratulations! May your tribe ever increase in happiness, joy, and fulfilment. - trey pennington

Congrats! - Ben Parr

what would be ryan's reaction when he would read this post someday, so many folks who knew dad congratulating him! - testbeta

Congratulations! - Anne Bouey

hiya RSS! - Laura Norvig

Yah!! Congratulations. - Micah

Congratulations to the whole Scoble family! - WoH: Minding her Steves

Congratulations to the whole family! Enjoy these most precious times. - Marylene Delbourg-Delphis

best wishes to all - Hamza Şamlıoğlu @TEAkolik

congrats Robert and Maryam - Kevin Tunis

Congratulations, Robert! - Sabri Küstür from FreshFeed

Wonderful. Best wishes to Ryan... - Mitchell Tsai

Congratulations to the whole family :) - Chris Saad

Congratulations - Samaneh

Congratulations. First picture on twitter! - Cindy Makonin

I just came to make sure you were getting a proper congratulations - Sherrie Belken

congrats;) - Elham ( خاتون )

Congratulations to the Scobles! - Carlton Prest

Congrats Robert! - Jorge Escobar

congratulations, Robert and Maryam. - Valeria Maltoni

congrats! - Daniel Brusilovsky

WOW - what a miracle - congrats! - Mark Harai

Congratulations Robert & Maryam! - Rodrigo Jaroszewski

Congrats from Italy, Ryan! - Federico Bolsoman from iPhone

Congratulations Robert and sorry for delay, Best wishes - erfan

He is crying: "I want an iPhone". Felicitations! - William Mougayar

May he be blessed throughout his life! God bless you, Robert and Maryam! - Melanie Reed

CONGRATS!!!!!!!!! - Greg Ness

congrats :) - Erdinc Ciftci

Congrats Robert & your family :) - Sampad Swain

what a beautiful little guy! congratulations! rock on! - B.L. Ochman

great day, congrats - imran

Wow congratulations to both you and Maryam you must be so proud :) - David Richardson from Android

Wow, Congratulations, Robert and Maryam!! Ryan looks beautiful.:-) - Cathryn Hrudicka

Congrats man. That's so awesome. - DB Botts - Just DB Botts

Happy Babbie Day! - Jack&Cleo

Congrats! I wish a long and healthy life. - Muammer Okumuş

Robert, you newest addition is too freaking adorable. I hope you and Maryam are doing well. Congratulations! Here's to a long, prosperous future! - Mike Nayyar

congrats to you and Maryam! And welcome, RSS! - Joshua Allen from fftogo

congrats!!! Welcome to Ryan - Dario Salvelli

Congratulations to you and Maryam! E benvenuto Ryan! - Marco Fabbri

Congrats! :) - Emmanuel Anumonwo

Congratulations! - mlazopoulou

Such auspicious times... Welcome, Ryan! - Red Label

O HAI, Ryan! Congratulations to Daddy and Mommy, too! - Ladyepiphanybug

قدم نو رسیده مبارک!congratulations - uɐſʃɐʌ uɐſ

حوزه جان بیا در گوشش اذان بگو - ممد

woohoo! congrats! - Tyson

Congrats Robert! Welcome Ryan! - Garin Kilpatrick

Awesome, Congratulations Robert and Maryam! And welcome to the world Ryan. - Mitch Baldwin

Happy parenting! Congrats! - Natalie

Groovy + one geek on the planet - Yann Ropars

Congrats!!! Robert - Steve Chou

To the proud Papa.....Congratulations!! - Bonnie Foster

Congratulations Team Scoble. Best of good wishes to all of you. - Morrie Johnston

Congrats Robert and family!!! Welcome Ryan :) - buvanesh

congrats Robert! - Joshua Guffey

Congratulations! RS - Sean Kelly

Congrats :D - Emre Misvaklı

Congratulations. he's so cute :) - Armando Grati

Beautiful! - Ryan Sholin

Congratulations - Kreg Steppe

Congratulations! - Gordon Saunders

Congratulations! - Hamid Reza

Congrats Robert....How amny more before you have your baseball team :-) - Alex Marrow

Seriously, Best whishes.............God Bless...... - Alex Marrow

Mazal Tov! - Raanan Avidor

All the best! Fun Times!!!! - Jim Turner

congrads now the fun starts, beautiful baby - Debra Moore

congrads ! - ★ Soner Gönül

Congrats and Best Wishes! - Tracy Benham

Looks like the baby's first trip to the dentist - Steve Borgman

Welcome, Ryan! Congrats, Robert! - Thierry R. Andriamirado

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September 10, 2009 from The MacCast - Comment - Like - Share

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Robert Scoble

Tonight is the beginning of the end of the "geeks-only" phase of FriendFeed. Now that Guy Kawasaki is here the marketers will start showing up.

July 28, 2009 from iPhone - Comment - Like - Share

Akash Sharma, Ozer Wrzl (EN), Martynas and 126 other people liked this

I'm showing Six Flags tomorrow...lol - sean andersen

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*doffs hat in respect to the passing of the time of geeks* - WoH: Minding her Steves

So what's next? - Kevin Arth

yeah but unlike twitter, I'm not so sure internet marketers would feel successful on FriendFeed with everyone blocking them - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ

Now on to Google Wave! - sean andersen

And the spammers too, I guess. Great.. - Citronella

And ghost posters / commenters. - Ben Hanten

Slayerboy: good marketers won't get blocked. I really appreciated getting cuts in line at Six Flags because of their Twitter contest. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Good marketers aren't most marketers :) - Brett Kelly

Brett: only good ones will survive here. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Or they will drown. - sean andersen

Only if Guy likes it will they come. Friendfeed.alltop.com and all that. - Pete D from iPhone

Robert: I don't mind good marketers, as long as they're genuine. Too many of them (particular the "social media marketing gurus") are just unforgivably obnoxious and fake in their attempts to pimp their own garbage services/blog. So, I really hope you're right :) - Brett Kelly

Bad marketers on FriendFeed will survive in search results. Do a search for a couple of terms like 'canon 135mm' and you'll see plenty of entries that are just links to people selling the lens. You're not going to block them all. I don't see that as a big problem, but I suspect they'll be successful enough there to keep them coming. - Edward Coffey

Start? I've been here for a loooong time. A few of my 'marketing' friends have been too. - AJ Kohn

Marketers phase has already started in Turkey. Friendfeed is generally used by them, or I think like that... - Sabri Küstür

we need like a freindfeed costranostra to keep the peace, and make things just poof into the ethersphere - Robert Higgins

so wish i was a freindfeed coder and i could merge with the stream and provide some community services... :AKA Hiro Protaganist - Robert Higgins

@Robert: +1 for Snowcrash reference. - AJ Kohn

I'm in Marketing, and I've been here from the beginning. Are you slandering my craft, Mr. Scoble? :) - Louis Gray

Louis: you don't work for a big brand. When you sell your souls and work for a big brand let us know, OK? ;-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Robert, wait, don't you work for a big brand? - Jesse Stay

Jesse: sssshhhhh. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

"Now on to Google Wave! - sean andersen" Exactly. Unless the FF core team is over there on the sandbox right now, doing all they can to start the scrambling scrum RIGHT NOW, the big GWave will assimilate all. At least until the assimilation wave after that. FF has maybe a one year window -- if that -- to make it's move, whatever that might be, starting right now. - michael silverton

Citronella - I like that the spammers are vaporized almost instantly here. Decent built in tools for group reporting. - BairdWilliamson

If I got here before Guy and I'm geekless does that give me any special designation? - Kimber Scott

michael silverton: Wave sandbox already looks like Gmail. I bet when they release it, it will be Gmail 2.0. I hope Bret & co. are studying it close... - sean andersen

Kimber: you are geeky because you were here before...whether you like that designation or not :) - WoH: Minding her Steves

Louis has more than *one* soul? Or is this a left-foot, right-foot thing. Colour me confus`ed :D - Micah

LOL! Well, I guess I could be called an amateur geek... - Kimber Scott from email

Pot. Kettle. Black. - Gilbert Harding

@silverton, agreed that FriendFeed has a limited time window to figure out what it wants to be when it's all grown up.. in other news, can't believe it took Guy this long to show up here to play. Nothing wrong with a little marketing, especially if it's of the "Moving the Freeline" variety.. +1 Gilbert, LOL. - Alex Schleber

If I were Guy, or the head of any company, be it a camera shop or whatever, whenever I had a little free time, I'd tweet out, "Hey, I'm going to be on FriendFeed for an hour or so, answering any questions about Alltop, telling you about its features, advantages, and benefits, come join in!" or something like that. That's a vertical that feeds off Twitter and really enriches both platforms, utilizing them both for their strengths. - Stephen Pickering

With Leo, Steve Rubel, and Guy K now all here .. this landscape is about to change ... agreed. - Charlie Anzman

I'm reading Crossing the Chasm, only 18 years after it was published. Can I blend in as a "marketer" now? - DGentry

<LOL> - Allen Harkleroad

Say it isn't so Joe! It will be interesting to watch the transformation, will FriendFeed go to the dark side or will it make a stand :) - Owen Greaves

true.. true.. - Cesar Sanchez

So, do you think the population will tend to shift to more casual people than the creme de la creme people. I feel so, since there are only the innovative, open-minded people on FriendFeed right now; and I think the change is pretty near. - Yiğit Arda Türkoğlu

Marketing guys have always been here. The difference... tactics and respect. That being said change is always happening and even still I'm not sure Friendfeed will hit the critical mass Twitter has with marketers. The friendfeed brand will likely be defined differently than Twitter and attract different people. Time will tell. - Jim Goldstein from iPhone

why? can't marketing guys and geeks get along? - kakuei

No. We cannot get along. This war has been waged for too long, and too much blood has been spilled. Most of us no longer even remember why we are fighting, but it doesn't matter. Victory is all that matters. - DGentry

The marketers are already here, but most of them are totally clueless about how friendfeed works. They somehow think they can dump their stuff here and it will get "found" and when that doesn't work, they just go back to twitter. The ones that do understand how it works either feel it is too much damn work to fake being real to be worth it, or they are the real deal and it works quite well for them. - April

April: I think there's some cost-benefit analysis going on there. There's a smaller crowd at FF and it takes a lot more work. Plus, most people here are marketing jaded. - Trent Hamm

Guy is a marketer, sure, but also a geek. Geeks phase ends when the Celebs show up. - Garin Kilpatrick

well if they start selling, just dont click "like" or "comment" and they will drop off the page in minutes - Mark

I think some marketers are already here..but anyway, you think Guy being here will change things much? - Rob Sellen :o)

Robert, "Wanna learn how to get 1,000's of Friendfeed friends in no time. Click here http://somespammylink.com to learn my patent pending, amazing, fantastic, game-changing, and revolutionary way to gain residual income through the magic of your Friendfeed friends." Don't click yet, I was just brushing up! - Sean Powell

I'm so honored to have read this message from scoble. I'm grateful for our "geeks only" days that we've all shared! LOL - Jason Pollock

No Kidding! Welcome Guy Kawasaki, who ever your are. - Houseofmax

Yes I agree - Randy Allen Bishop

thats unfortunate, but who is GuyK? - echostreamer

When the marketer wagon shows up I'll be going private. - Geoff Schultz {TF}

Yeah, Jim Goldstein sez it: those of us from the dark side that stumbled into these sweet precincts have kept a low profile... sorta like taking your hat off when you go to church ; > - Thom Kennon

he's actually been here awhile, just not posting, mr scoble - chaz2b

Some ppl cannot be stopped. Like me! Not geeky enough, a girl, too wall st. Watch out, cause tenacity wins every time. - Liza + = ?

well then lets learn from Twitter and not follow every stupid command that celebrities give us to rocket them to the top of friend feed. BOYCOTT ALL CELEBRITIES ON FRIEND FEED to save this from becoming the punchline that twitter. save the whales, then save friend feed plez :) - echostreamer

Jason Pollock liked this, that is HILARIOUS! He posts the most redundant links on Twitter...a notorious spammer. At least Guy admits what he does, still somewhat annoying. Not sure why Leo Laporte was mentioned, I don't see him fitting that GK mold at all. - Benjamin Taylor

In retrospect ... it seems to have been a hit and run for now ?? Hoping not. Would be great to see him actively engaging here. A LOT to offer. Marketing crowd? ... No worries - There's always 'block, tackle and hide .....' here - Charlie Anzman

Robert, I think this is such crazy talk, you're a marketer too ;) - Jeremiah Owyang

Umm, I'm pretty sure that Guy is also a geek. Regardless of what his cool cred is...then again his cool cred is totally geek cool cred. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

Guy Kawasaki does have magic initials, I will give him that. - Garin Kilpatrick

Post, Kimber added you as a friend on Goodreads. We need you to confirm that you are, in fact, friends with Kimber. To confirm this friend request, follow the below link: http://www.goodreads.com/friend... &utm_medium=email&utm_source=invite - Kimber (kimberscott.art@gmail.com) - ♣ ♣ ♣ from email

doh! - Jonathan Blundell

Well now with the FB acquisition this post just seems like a jab in the eye. Poor FF. - Lindsay

Robert Scoble

@joewilcox the N97 sucks. Nokia is off the rails. No one cares. When I went to London all the cool devs have iPhones.

August 26, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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HTC Hero with Android is surely way cooler? - Brian MacSweeney

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There was a time when the Nokia fanboys would have burned you in effigy for saying something like this. Wonder what happened to all of them? - Andrew Leyden

The Iphone - Steve Mott

N900 was just officially released. I don't think the N97 will be doing so well any more. http://maemo.nokia.com - Jody Fanning

I think Nokia has missed the boat - I don't see them releasing anything on the same page as Android, the iPhone or the Pre - Anthony Feint

Anthony, are you sure. Have you even seen the Maemo stuff? - Jody Fanning from twhirl

yep i've seen it....but do you really think anyone will develop for it! I also believe it has a pretty average UI and hardware isn't interesting either. And whats with the name - can't nokia think of something better - Anthony Feint

So the Pre and 3GS aren't interesting either. Same hardware. - Jody Fanning from twhirl

exactly my point Jody - why would I buy a nokia if the hardware is the same (even though the nokia looks like a brick) - Anthony Feint

Why would I buy a macbook if the hardware is the same as a PC. Which it is. No-one does custom hardware any more. - Jody Fanning from twhirl

Also, Nokia says "We trust you, and at the end it’s your device." - Jody Fanning from twhirl

do you work for Nokia Jody? - Anthony Feint

Nope. But I do have an N810. - Jody Fanning from twhirl

I have the E71. everyday is filled with anger and frustration. - Dan

Scoble, Alex Scoble

Wow, America just chose the nerd pianist over the hot girl singer on America's Got Talent...maybe there is hope for us after all?

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Just how hot was she? - Michael W. May

Not hot enough to beat the piano playing nerd. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM

It's just a minor correction, America will be back in the trend in 3...2...1... - Amit Morson

Mona Nomura

Note to self: Lenovo X301 @Jandrick's - better than a Netbook more useful than an Air.

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A lot more expensive too - Rodfather

Robert Scoble

I just spoke with FriendFeed cofounder Paul Buchheit. Did you know that he promised family that FriendFeed would continue? More:

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He told me they messed up by not communicating better last week. The deal happened so fast that they didn't pay attention to everything. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

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I like how this is starting - Robert DeBord

o0o0o0 - Mark

as its own service? - Lee

you are the one who keeps proclaiming its death - Mark

That's what Compaq said when they purchased DEC. (for those of you old enough to remember) - RobinDotNet

A promise is not a guarantee. - Amit Morson

Such a tease, Robert. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

More smoke-blowing. I don't care of Paul swore on the graves of his ancestors. Actions speak louder than words. Some vague promise to a group of people I'm excluded from doesn't do much to assuage my unease. - Akiva

Akiva, you're right, but it's not smoke. - Louis Gray

Okay, Louis, true. I retract that first sentence. The rest of it, however, I'm sticking by. - Akiva

Akiva: well I feel a lot better about things today. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Continue just as it is? Or with key changes? - Karma Martell

I would expect them to post more on this topic soon - on their personal blogs. - Louis Gray

If that's what Paul wants to promise us, he needs to release some kind of official statement, not send a message through Robert. - Rochelle

Soon. - Louis Gray

I bet you as part of the contract, its in there not to shut this down - Stephen Pickering

Rochelle: there are too many unknowns to make a definitive statement yet. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

keeping my hopes up. but i do remember working at a few radio stations that were bought, we'd get a memo saying 'the format is not going to change' about three weeks before we switched to spanish. i think there is just too much here for ff to vanish. keep the dream alive! - michael sean wright

How can he when it`s lost all of its autonomy? Supplanted by Facebook, bought outright no? - The Real sofarsoShawn

It couldve been part of the deal not to let the site die - Stephen Pickering

Robert, like you said, one can hope. However both of us know how corporates work and it takes one small decision from share holders to close down the service, no matter what. - Nir Ben Yona

They want to get to Facebook and get those unknowns nailed down first. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Holden and Rochelle, etc., let's be patient. If you see the post I put up last night and add Robert's comments here, we should be feeling a lot better today than we did on Monday. - Louis Gray

Robert, all right. Well, after my initial freak-out over this, I've gone into complete wait-and-see mode. More of these vague promises and 'coming soon' messages don't really do much for me. When someone say something definitive, then I'll be there to consume it. The rest of this just doesn't add up for much. - Akiva

That was a great post Louis - Stephen Pickering

Thanks, Stephen. I thought it was important. - Louis Gray

Akiva, exactly, waiting for official word. - Kol Tregaskes

Nir: the way it was told to me contractually it can't be closed down anytime soon. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I hope they don't change it so you have to have a Facebook account to use it. I have one, but share it with very few; I use Twitter and FF for everyone. I want to be able to use it the way I do now. - RobinDotNet

Like any takeover/merger, some details just take time to work out. Hopefully FF can stay around in some form and help make FB better. We'll just have to wait and see. Thanks, Robert, for the info. - Mark Edwards

I agree, we haven`t seen anything substantive in the way of contract etc but fingers crossed. - The Real sofarsoShawn

But doesn't mean it won't be shutdown at some point? - Kol Tregaskes

And, Louis, I didn't see your post from last night but I'll read it as soon as I get back from the store. - Akiva

was Pownce a bit like Friendfeed? I never used it - Mark

I can't get my hopes up when Facebook is in the picture. :-( - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Stable Door and Horse comes to mind. - Kevin J Hatton

The fact that the FF folks haven't yet said "This is how we want it, so this is how it's going to be" is just evidence that they don't have the final say on the matter. If it's subject to some additional authority/approval, nothing is certain at this point. - Ken Sheppardson

Kol: it won't be shut down anytime soon. He was quite clear about that. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Kol, the truth is they work for Facebook now, and therefore, FriendFeed can/will change, and it may not change 100% how you and I want. It may be part of Facebook's site later, and it may not. But Facebook is changing from what we know of it now to something new where they overlap. - Louis Gray

In other words that was in the contract. Makes sense, since they were hesitant anyway - Stephen Pickering

Robert, OK but maybe at some point though. - Kol Tregaskes

I sure would like it if FF continued indefinitely. - Jason Nunnelley

Kol: nothing in life is guaranteed. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Patience is a good thing. That said, if FriendFeed wasn't growing at a rate much higher than it has been, something would have to change. You don't bottle up such talent and experience and have it work on a product that was losing. - Louis Gray

Robert, What about death and taxes? - RobinDotNet

Good to hear. I am sure they will take time to decide what exactly to do with FF. How to integrate them together. What to do etc. FF the R&D for FB I think it could be - Robert Anderson

Robert, true. All a bit vague still though. - Kol Tregaskes

Scoble: encourage Facebook to keep FriendFeed as a premium brand. Let them tie it to Facebook data or whatever, but keep the system separate. - Gary

Louis, right, this gives them legitimacy and exposure - Stephen Pickering

Kol... if they wanted to grow they way they "deserved" to grow, this place would have changed underneath your feet to something you might hate. This is one way to put real capital and people behind the site as it is now. - Louis Gray

If this thing grows by leaps and bounds, FB is not going to close it - Stephen Pickering

Mark: anytime a blogger says something is dead ALL that means is that it is less interesting than yesterday. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Over time, we will learn, Sam. It's a classical marketing/engineering decision. Do you build for the current user base, or the potential user base? With change. some were bound to leave anyway. - Louis Gray

Louis, not arguing that at all. My point was about shutting it down or not. I'm at the wait-and-see stage, waiting for more news from FF. - Kol Tregaskes

And any time I write a headline that says it's NOT dead... maybe I know what I'm talking about. :) - Louis Gray

But this service grows more useful the more users there are - Stephen Pickering

Something needs to happen. Twitter is useless now - maybe a new denial of service attack. I would love to see the Friendfeed technology spread to the mass user base that Facebook has. - Frode Stenstrøm

Well, at least he acknowledged they messed up. - Rodfather

Frode: that was what Paul told me too. He wants the tech here to be used by everyone. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I don't understand why Google didn't buy it instead. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Rod, FriendFeed has no PR or Marketing. Maybe if they did, this would have been handled differently. Some things come naturally, and others are hard. But I bet you will see a lot more soon. - Louis Gray

I've heard the same from another founder, Robert. - Anne Bouey

Franz, no official word, just wait for an announcement from FF. - Kol Tregaskes

They didn't want to work for google again. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Makes you wonder about a due diligence ckecklist and the speed of getting this deal done - courtney benson

Kinda why they left. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Right, look at Google Reader. They don't know how to do social - Stephen Pickering

It's all wonky and hard to understand - Stephen Pickering

But GR is going in that direction. - Kol Tregaskes

Companies come and companies go. They can go by closing their doors or by being acquired. Only time will tell whether FriendFeed has come and gone. - Jeff Sayre

GR is trying, but its all wonky and totally un understandable - Stephen Pickering

Oh. I just don't trust Facebook at all and can barely stand using it after being here. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Jannifer, I think we have to look beyond the caricatures of people like Zuckerberg, and recognize that he too may want the same things we do. Facebook is growing up and I bet FriendFeed and its team is a big part of that. - Louis Gray

Louis, hope so. - Kol Tregaskes

courtney: Paul talked about that too. He said once the team made the decision they knew it had to be closed overnight to prevent it from leaking. - Robert Scoble

Louis I think its a perfect marriage, genius engineers + genius Marketers - Stephen Pickering

Well, he didn't quite say "prevent it from leaking" but he said "it's important to do it all at once." I knew what he meant, though, that it had to be done fast to keep things from getting crazy, like they do once decisions like this get taken into public sphere. - Robert Scoble

I am sure paul is truthful in that he would like for it to go that way, but this is a M&A situation, and even if it is written into the agreement, there are a million ways around it. At the end of the day, shareholders make the rules in a majority vote. If ff isn't integrated in fb somehow, I fail to see how it benefits fb. - Erik Boles from iPhone

Kol: Paul was emphatic that Facebook is a far more interesting company at this time in both company's history. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Somehow this doesn't sound too convincing. If Friendfeed has been losing a LOT of regular users because of their deal with Facebook, they'd be concerned. Friendfeed is likely to get you to speak on their behalf, since you are their most popular user. Maybe Paul is trying to convince you, so that he can indirectly convince others too. That might save an early end to Friendfeed brought on by the rapid loss of users. - K N Ajit Narayan

I totally agree with Paul, by the way. Facebook is a much more interesting company to join right now than Google is. - Robert Scoble

Facebook = Microsoft 2.0 - scott anderson

Robert: Did he mention anything about Mashable reporting an acquisition had been talked about since `07? - The Real sofarsoShawn

YAY! thanks Scoble for letting us know - i feel alot better today! - Chris Clayton

Hey, Microsoft had a decent run - Stephen Pickering

Louis: yeah, Zuckerberg is a lot smarter and a lot more down to earth than most of the press gives him credit for. He's always been straight up with me. Much better than other companies have treated me. - Robert Scoble

And that's even including getting kicked off of Facebook for 24 hours. - Robert Scoble

@ Scott, LOL Facebook = Microsoft 2.0! I see your point, but it far surpasses Microsoft Live attempt at a social network. - Nakeva Corothers

Erik: technologies that have great audiences don't get killed. If anything will kill it, it will be us. By leaving. - Robert Scoble

Robert, cool. Well if they can ditch a lot of their annoying features, like this FB Lite might be, then I might be interested in moving over with all the FF features implemented but I just can't work with FB in it's currently state. I had another go this weekend and still didn't like it. But I'd be even happier if FF stayed here. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

this is gonna be an interesting story to follow for sure. For now I am just using friendfeed the way I have been and see what comes out down the road. life is about changes. - (jeff)isageek

sofarsoShawn: I don't know what you're talking about regarding Mashable. - Robert Scoble

Maybe I missed it earlier in this thread but why can't they just come out and say something directly to the community? Obviously a lot of people are concerned and anxious about it... Why do we have to hear second-hand? And why has it all been so vague? No news is not necessarily good news in cases like this. - Lindsay

Robert, Leo called himself Leo Scoble today because he deleted his 5000 FB friends and moved them over to his fan page - Stephen Pickering

jeff: yeah. Visiting Facebook is going to get more interesting. He also said that the first month at Facebook (which starts Monday) will be all about learning about Facebook's code. So, no new features will come quickly. - Robert Scoble

Ok. I hope Facebook changes a LOT so it's more tolerable. Although I don't like it, I need to set up a good Facebook page for business so I can remain competitive. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

I hope they do right by you. You brought them to the party. I hope that gets recognized somehow monetarily. - Jim Posner

Saying that it might be shut down at some point doesn't tell us anything new, though; after all, any site might be shut down at some point due to going out of business etc. - Tristan Seligmann

When anything comes out of this it was always going to be long term. - Kol Tregaskes

Can i just add - Paul never said friendfeed was going to die in the first place... instead they said the complete opposite - "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team." - Chris Clayton

sofarsoShawn, yes, Facebook had been talking to FriendFeed since 2007. - Louis Gray

Lindsay, I bet the FriendFeed team has a very busy week and maybe you hear from them on all this soon. - Louis Gray

Robert: "technologies that have great audiences don't get killed..." oh, come on, you know better than that! My dad worked at IBM so I've been seeing tech companies kill great stuff that their customers liked for most of my life!!!! - Fred Davis

Jim, Scoble has gotten no money from FriendFeed (nor have I). Neither one of us expects to, as that would change the relationship. - Louis Gray

Fred, right, the Innovators Dilemma, but in this case its cost of running a website is halving every year - Stephen Pickering

Louis: yes, but Paul told me that when I last was in the office they hadn't yet decided to go to Facebook. Everything happened in the past two weeks. I think you even walked in on one of their key decision points. He said they worked all weekend long on the agreement. - Robert Scoble

Fred: nothing in life is guaranteed, yeah, you're right. But there's no business reason to turn this off anytime soon. If we all leave there will be. - Robert Scoble

Robert: e.g., consumer company changes focus to biz or gets acquired... new company direction leads to consumer products getting killed despite popularity... that's just one of many ways that good tech gets killed all the time!!! - Fred Davis

No disagreement on that at all, Robert. I know I walked in on something big, and that was my mistake for not calling ahead. - Louis Gray

Seems their valuation stood on Roberts shoulders to some degree. At the least, a public thanks would have been nice. - Jim Posner

Jason: i know, thats what got me freaked out too - i just thought i would add it in incase anyone missed it :) and because im a little bored! lol - Chris Clayton

Fred, can you give any examples? Any software I used to use that is no longer available was replaced with something better. - RobinDotNet

No business reason that WE understand... 'cuz we don;t go to Facebook board meetings ;-) Facebook may have their own agenda... in fact, I assume they do... - Fred Davis

Jim: I do this because I love it, not because I expect thanks or goodies. - Robert Scoble

Why even bring this up if they can't talk about it? Nothing has changed just more innuendo and smoke and mirrors and a lot of 'what ifs'. Wake me when there's something concrete. - Derrick

Robert: when you talk to paul next, can you push him into doing a public announcement on it all? Just give him a nudge in the right direction! :) - Chris Clayton

RobinDotNet... god, too many to count! First one I was bummed about was in '85 when Musicworks was the best MIDI program on the Mac... got acquired by some jerky game company that decided it wasn't a game and stranded all the users! Yeah, eventually new better stuff came along... but that didn't do the users of the current any good at that time... - Fred Davis

Derrick: sorry, I totally disagree. I didn't know that contractually they can't kill the service anytime soon. - Robert Scoble

Derrick, there is more than smoke. - Louis Gray

It makes sense, they had leverage to make that deal - Stephen Pickering

Fred -- Okay, so that was one that was 24 years ago. Have any more recent examples? If you can't think of any, then they obviously weren't that important. - RobinDotNet

Because they were hesitant, they had the leverage to make that part of the deal. Makes total sense - Stephen Pickering

Um, apple buys leading music sequencing package and kills of PC version because, um, they want to force you to use a mac... come on, the list is endless!!! Companies screw customers by killing good products for their own reasons all the time.... - Fred Davis

Fred, you keep saying the list is endless, but the only one you can name is one that came out about 2 years after the 1st Mac, 24 years ago. I'm just saying.... - RobinDotNet

Fred, but what if part of the deal was not to kill it? - Stephen Pickering

Derrick: believe me, Louis and I have been talking and concerned about the messaging coming out of this deal more than anyone. We both invested a lot of our time/careers here. Louis has been talking with the team too and that's where his post came from yesterday. I suggest you read it and read between the lines too. - Robert Scoble

Understand Robert, Really not about your motivation, just good manners in my opinion for Friendfeed to thank you publically. Maybe they have and I missed it. I think you did more for promoting the service than the founders. - Jim Posner

now, what facebook decides to do with friendfeed... who knows... Yahoo kept Flickr going... so far... but that seems like the exception... no one's really using jabber any more, but it lives on in the upcoming Wave and as XMPP at Google... - Fred Davis

Jim: thanks, appreciate it. Paul did thank me in the interview I did with him right after the announcement was made. - Robert Scoble

If there is a contractual obligation on FB's part to keep FF running, the obvious question is what does this contract state and does it give a duration. Hopefully we'll hear more later. - Kol Tregaskes

Why? What would be the point? I respect you two enough and all that you do in the world of social media and that's fine. I want a place I can converse, post my pictures, air my gripes, and continue to establish the friends I've made via Friendfeed. Will I be able to do that or not? I'm so tired of the conjecture. Some of us, are just people who love the service and more than anything, very simply, we just want to be able to utilize it. - Derrick

Kol: I call it the "Paul is sleeping on the couch for a month" clause. ;-) - Robert Scoble

LOL, Robert. - Kol Tregaskes

For a company like Facebook, I would imagine that the consolidation of branding advantage would lead me to suspect that even if Friendfeed is kept going in some way, it will be re-branded as Facebook... just like Longs, Wamu, and Wells Fargo are going through right in Facebook's backyard. - Fred Davis

Derrick, this is the place to do that. :) - Louis Gray

"For now". ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Throws sheep at Kol - Louis Gray

Hehe, Louis. - Kol Tregaskes

The other main issue I have is that, now we are creating content for Facebook. Facebook owns our data. For some reason I didn't mind Paul and his team, they were blacksheep. If I wanted to make Facebook richer I would type in Facebook in the URL. I dont want to make Facebook richer. - Robert Higgins

What are the alternatives to FF? Isn't there Streamy, Plurk, SocialThing? - Eric

Louis, I'll be counting sheep soon, need sleep. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Of course, since I'm hoping Grabbit will replace Friendfeed for most people, I'm more than a little biased, and that makes me care a lot less about what happens to Friendfeed... even though I love the service, and hope Facebook keeps it going. We're already planning to support Friendfeed in Grabbit, and the new Friendfeed API is awesome, so who knows what the extent of the disruption... more... - Fred Davis

Sam, I know there is something. I am upset, because I wanted to buy FF someday! :) - Eric

There has to be an alternative. - Eric

Jason: too early to know that for sure. I'd start with the API. From what my friends are telling me who are good developers the API is actually very well thought out. - Robert Scoble

There was an alternative, but I think it shut down. - Eric

There is no need to replace FriendFeed. That there are options to decentralize our info is great, but I'm not going anywhere. - Louis Gray

It was called SocialThing. - Eric

Fred: I just don't like Facebook's service for WHAT I DO. For my wife? It's freaking awesome. And the execs there have always treated me very well (Zuckerberg walked around Davos with me, while every other journalist was drooling over the opportunity to do that -- he's a lot nicer and smarter than most people give him credit for). - Robert Scoble

Eric & Jason: my new web thingie Grabbit, will do everything Friendfeed does and more, so much more... it's still in alpha, and the beta won't be out until next month... but already the alpha features better Facebook and integration than Friendfeed, IMHO... so, check out grabbit.net and ask to be on the beta list, and we'll keep you posted... - Fred Davis

It was called Rejaw, and it was shut down. - Eric

Fred: can't wait to see more about Grabbit. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Hey dude, I TOTALLY agree with you about Facebook! I've been telling people for a while that I think Facebook is in the process of Yahoo-ing themselves... and that ain't no compliment! - Fred Davis

FriendFeed family or real family? - Mona Nomura

FF is crazy to sell. They should've sold to Google, what were they thinking? - Eric

louis i agree with you. i am not going anywhere either. this is the place i love and think is awesome - (jeff)isageek

Robert, is Paul referencing his FriendFeed family or real family? (not expanding thread - too long) - Mona Nomura

Mona: real family AND FriendFeed family. They are one and the same if you look at it the right way. - Robert Scoble

Sam: what do you mean "intergrate email" friendfeed already has email features so it depends on what you mean... - Chris Clayton

Same here, Jeff. If FF is still around I'm not budging. It it goes FB on us then it's bye-bye. - Kol Tregaskes

Google Wave is like FF? - Eric

Sam, got that in Grabbit... email, RSS, blog alerts, news alerts, and more... plus the coolest friend management stuff to help you sort all that out, not just the messages, updates, and alerts... - Fred Davis

Mona: if you want me to do something for you, talk Maryam into it first. :-) - Robert Scoble

Eric: just like the others you mentioned, it has 1 or 2 similar features, but completely different! - Chris Clayton

and twitter, facebook, friendfeed, etc., of course... we're starting a signup on grabbit.net... - Fred Davis

I used to use FeedEachOther which was like FF. - Eric

Now there is Google Reader. - Eric

Google reader is improving, but still has a long way to go. On the social side. - Bluesun 2600

That's the one thing I've always liked about FriendFeed - the founders (and staff) interacts with the community, as do their family members. The community members were treated like family, too. :) Whatever which way, hopefully Facebook will integrate FriendFeed's functions to carry on the "feel" over there as well. Personally, I have the more the merrier approach! BTW see you Thursday, Robert! Gnomedex sold out! - Mona Nomura

I'm not up to speed with this discussion, but FB must have bought FF to merge FF tech into FB. FF for everybody, not just Scoble and tech friends. - Zato Gibson

Sam: i was actually looking for a way to have the subjects of my emails show up on my friendfeed dashboard awhile ago - do you mean like that? Because that would be awesome! - Chris Clayton

i would love to see friendfeed get a killer mobile app...maybe improve on fftogo a little more - (jeff)isageek

Google Reader is my current alternative btw. I've found the share box today and now using it like FF's share box. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Google Reader is great, but it's not built to replace FriendFeed. It's not an aggregator, for one. - Louis Gray

one thing is I don't think you can share images from pages as easily as FF's share. - Bluesun 2600

Life2front has anyone heard of it? - Eric

i think you can look at two services that were bought up and never really changed all this time in flickr and delicous so hey maybe friendfeed stays around as it is...maybe just integrates a bit more or something with facebook - (jeff)isageek

Well you can put your services into a folder then create a bundle and share it. But no not quite like FF. It lacks a lot of features and Comments view is awful. - Kol Tregaskes

and look how long google had grand central before they really even started doing anything with it. - (jeff)isageek

So Friendfeed stays on as a side project instead of being abandoned. Does that really make a difference in the grand scheme of things? The service isn't going to grow by leaps and bounds either in audience or functionality now. I guess a slow death is easier for people to deal with than a quick one. - Dare Obasanjo

Sam: i love that idea... email services dont have RSS (not that i can find anyway) i was looking for 5 hours for one afew months ago so i could put it in a private group to show up on my FF stream. but i ended up being dissapointed! - Chris Clayton

I hope we all converge over to Google Wave and that some clever sod codes a FF-type service built on the Wave protocol. :-) GWave is great fun to use! - Kol Tregaskes

Kol: are you going to send me a download link? :P im still waiting for it from the 'sneak peek' survey i filled out AGES ago! - Chris Clayton

Whhhhhhat how`d you try it already? - The Real sofarsoShawn

Dare: there are lots of things that don't get many new features but are still very popular. FriendFeed still has way more features and is better technology than anything else I've seen in the marketplace. Maybe someone will eclipse it, but that won't happen soon and, yes, a slow death is definitely better than a quick one. Why? Cause you can make plans and change your behavior. - Robert Scoble

Download link for GWave? Don't work like that. ;-) Just wait until 30th September, Chris. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Kol: but september is too long to wait :( blame scoble for making me a social media addict! :) - Chris Clayton

Hehe, it will fly by. - Kol Tregaskes

Robert: if this is just about whether they'll shut off the servers or not then why is this even causing hubbub? Given the complaining of a vocal set of users I'm sure that even if they planned to shut off the site, it'll keep going for a while. However it seems obvious that all their innovative ideas and day time hacking should be filled with innovating on Facebook not here. - Dare Obasanjo

As both Louis and I have said - these guys have been nothing but actions thus far and haven't let us down. I see nothing changing from that yet, so I suggest everyone continue that trust. They have done nothing to break that trust yet. And like I wrote about, Facebook needs them as much as they need Facebook - Facebook wants to change into something more of what FriendFeed is, from what I've seen and read. - Jesse Stay

It's not about shutting the servers off for some (most?) folks, it's a matter of how you reconcile FriendFeed and Facebook's views on content licensing, ownership, and privacy; whether we'll continue to see innovation at a pace faster than what Facebook's user base has historically been comfortable with; and whether we'll see a continuation of Friendfeed's openness towards third party developers and the open source community. - Ken Sheppardson

And as I've said over and over again, Jesse, I think most of us trust the FriendFeed folks as individuals, but that trust doesn't necessarily transfer to Facebook as an institution. - Ken Sheppardson

I second Ken. Zuckerbergs plans/dreams are also a kind of wild-card here. They could be favorable to us FriendFeed users, or not. Up till now, Zuckerberg hasn't done much favorable for me. That sucks. I wish it were different. - Meryn Stol

Say what you want about Facebook but Zuckerberg and/or Facebook has revolutionized the Internet by forcing people to be real. (not real-time) It even reflects on Youtube - the commenters aren't as moronic as they were say three years ago, since more and more people are using their real names and identities. - Mona Nomura

It's always like this and it never turns out the way Paul says it will, though I believe his intentions are honorable. At some point you no longer work for the old company and you start working for the new one. My guess is this has already happened. Soon people from the old team will have their new assignments, and then one day the server will go down. They'll bring it back up, but... more... - Dave Winer

Damn, Dave. And I thought that *I* was a cynic. - Akiva

Akiva, I've been through it myself, and been in Paul's position. - Dave Winer

Dave, I don't doubt that at all. It's just amazing from my perspective to see it put so honestly. Well put, sir. - Akiva

Only when I was in Paul's position, I had a simpler situation cause we were developing shrinkwrap software and our mission was supposedly unchanged. We didn't have servers that had to be kept up 24-by-7. Even so, six months after the merger, the whole thing was turned upside down and the team had all-new priorities and tons of people had left, including the top guy (me!). I would get... more... - Dave Winer

Well put, Mona! - Jesse Stay

Dave, I expect it to change, but I also expect that Facebook is doing this for not just the team they just acquired. I think Facebook really wants this technology. - Jesse Stay

Jesse, that may be true but they'll want it for Facebook. And if you're a fan of Facebook, that's great, Facebook's going to get better. But if you're not? If you're a a fan of FriendFeed? Then all you're going to end up with is a bastardized FriendFeed with lots of dipshit apps. - Akiva

Jesse: I'm not so sure. The technology will need to be rebuilt for the Facebook infrastructure. That's one reason why Paul doesn't have good answers for us yet. He said he needs a few weeks to really dig into Facebook's code base before he even has a good idea of where he and the FriendFeed'ers can really add value. - Robert Scoble

Akiva, I'm a fan of both. And you know you can ignore those apps - that's not something you can do on FriendFeed or Twitter. FriendFeed would have gotten just as bad as it grew. - Jesse Stay

Dave: thinking back on why I joined FriendFeed, it was because I expected that the team would do something interesting in the future. That reason has now been fulfilled and now that these guys are at Facebook it'll be interesting to see what they do. - Robert Scoble

Jesse, where is the button to ignore the apps? I want to ignore all of them, all the time. Instead, I have to click hide on every single bloody one of them and still get notifications from people wanting me to add apps. I'd tolerate Facebook better if there was a magic "no apps, ever" button. - Rochelle

Somewhat selfishly, I have just gained a whole load of new friends on Fb, here and on Google Reader and have learned loads about sharing and subscribing for which I thank you all :-) I will just watch and wait now, but I do agree that if everyone dashes off somewhere else and deserts FF, it could well hasten its demise. Best to try and use all the services and interlink them if we can. - Julia Ault

Rochelle: I want you to install the FriendFeed app. :) - Louis Gray

I am sure that FB was not happy if FF was going into MS hands or Google hands ,they bought it and now they will be the most important live and live search player on top of the best social community,,I am happy for them and for us as well ,they will keep our home and thats great news - Johni Fisher

Jesse, this is true. I guess my real point is—aside from the easy-as-punch Facebook app snarking—that the very philosophies on which each service was built are essentially different. I'm not saying that these divergent ideas can't be unified. I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. I'm sure the... more... - Akiva

Wish I was a millionaire like him :/ - Mark

"I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. " - very well put, Akiva. - Meryn Stol

Akiva, who says they will become one site? Why not enable the two communities to remain separate if they want, under the Facebook brand? I don't think we know yet what will happen. - Jesse Stay

Good news because I love friend feed in it's current format. - Rob Cairns

Robert, yes, we don't know for sure, but then again we don't know for sure - I don't see reason to change too much of our trust until something actually happens. I do know Facebook wants to open up more, while still retaining your right to privacy. The privacy thing is something FriendFeed (or Twitter) doesn't have, and I think would be a welcome addition. - Jesse Stay

Rochelle, you have to do it either by app, or individual (unless I've missed the option). That said, I would kill for the ability to do that on FriendFeed or Twitter. They don't even have that. - Jesse Stay

Jesse: FriendFeed doesn't have apps, so I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to; if you mean the ability to hide posts aggregated from a particular service, that's already there. - Tristan Seligmann

Last I checked, Jesse, FriendFeed didn't have MafiaWars or Superpoke. - Akiva

(If you click on "Hide", and then "hide other items like this one", you get a whole list of options) - Tristan Seligmann

FriendFeed has a finite number of things to hide ("all items from Bob", "all Flickr posts", etc.). That's much more easy control than the thousands of apps on Facebook. It's like playing whack-a-mole over there. It feels like the more I hide, the more they appear. - Rochelle

Akiva, Tristan, it's only a matter of time before the auto-dm apps appeared on FriendFeed. So long as FriendFeed grows, they will come. So long as it doesn't grow, it *does* disappear. There's no "hide all from the app that generated this DM" option on FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay

Jesse, and, with all of the hide options already present on FriendFeed, you don't think the devs would have had the presence of mind to include something similar for any supposed FriendFeed apps? - Akiva

Akiva, I trust that they'll add that as much as I trust they'll continue to fight for FriendFeed at Facebook. - Jesse Stay

They don't even need any extra options; you can already hide direct posts based on the application that created them. For example, if you hide this post of Robert's, you'll get the option to hide all posts by iPhone. - Tristan Seligmann

Jesse, I think no-one doubts that *they* will fight. The question is if they win. They're just employees now. - Meryn Stol

Again, I'm surprised that my own cynicism—legendary in its own right—is being beaten about the face and neck in this thread. - Akiva

Meryn, I also know the Facebook team - they're just as competent as FriendFeed's. Their original audience started different than FF's, but they too have to expand. - Jesse Stay

Holden: engagement. - Robert Scoble

It's hard for innovators to stop innovating, and for entrepreneurs to lose the total freedom and self-reliance that drives them. Every entrepreneur that I know personally (only a few, alas!) who has sold for the big bucks has eventually gone on to create something else. - Kathy Fitch

Jesse, as I said earlier, my lack of knowledge on the plans of Zuckerberg is the problem. Do you know Zuckerberg? In the end, he's gonna decide what appears on Facebook or not. Also, it's not so much a matter of competence than it is a matter of vision and taste. - Meryn Stol

I'm sure the FB engineers are competent. - Meryn Stol

And wouldn't it be fascinating to have a gander at the kinds of separation agreements folks who leave FB must sign? Almost as interesting as seeing the acquisition agreement in this case. - Kathy Fitch

It's totally unclear if future conversations we might have on FB will ever be indexable by Google. (or any other search engine) That all depends on Zuckerberg's final say. I can't look in the guy's head. - Meryn Stol

Sure seems like you're scrambling, Robert, to place yourself in the center of this when you were completely blindsided by the sale. Justs sayin' - Mattb4rd

Louis, nope! Those are two separate worlds for me and I intend to keep it that way. - Rochelle

Once you stop owning something you lose the ability to make promises about it. Good intentions or no. One hard headed business decision like FF is not earning its keep or we need the resources elsewhere and it's done. Been on both sides. - Todd Hoff

The only thing that would make a real difference in this case would be an unambiguous statement from Mark Zuckerberg himself. Let him address the FF community and actually say what he will commit himself to. I suppose he's a man of his word. - Meryn Stol

Good news. Doin' the right thing! - Rob Schieber

Yeah sure! Promises Promises!!! - Jose Luis Santos

Hmm. A whole lot of the sale was in stock options. Takes awhile to get fully vested. The next few years should prove very interesting. - Kathy Fitch

How can you live up to that promises when you no longer own it? - John D Reasor

Actions speak louder then words, and the key is the final decision is no longer up to him. I am sure Paul means every word he says I just not sure he is going to be able to keep it. - Kim Landwehr

"Promises are a bourgeois invention and, anyway, they're meant to be broken." [V. I. Lenin quoted from inexact memory] by - ianf ⌘

@louisgray's »If you see the post I put up last night...« <http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...> If you cared for others to read that post, you'd have included a direct link to it. It's the essence of hypertext, and any "Silicon Valley early adopter, tech geek blogger" worth the name would have done just... more... - ianf ⌘

It would make some business sense to keep FF as some kind of separate site/module, if just to stop another site taking it's place and becoming another competitor. - Robert Littlejohn

Hi Ian! I get what you are saying, but sometimes, dropping links to my own posts in other people's threads looks like spam. I also believe a good number of people saw it, and know how to get it otherwise. That said, it's right here: http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Louis Gray

Robert - To say Facebook is more interesting to work for than Google may be a stretch. While Facebook is growing exponentially and has challenges, Google faces HUGE challenges just staying Google ... while exploring new areas of growth. Keeping the index relevant is a big challenge in itself. On the other hand ... the 'FF guys' have worked there already and know how they feel about what direction they wanted to go ... which .. I think ... makes a little more sense? - Charlie Anzman

Charlie: remember most of this team already worked at Google. Facebook is pre IPO. Google is not. The potential rewards are much larger at Facebook and the potential to have an impact is much larger at Facebook too. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Posting links (references) to one's other posts "looks like spam"? That's news to me, and a lame excuse. In any event, given main difference between worlds of analog and digital publishing being ability in the latter case to refer back to source in unambiguous and granular fashion (rather than, as in analog, to indicate issue, chapter, page, verse, line, etc - if at all), not including... more... - ianf ⌘

ianf, I agree, but it feels like spam when you're doing it. Encourage him nicely. - Bruce Lewis

i suspect that, if FF were to survive relatively unchanged it will be through an open-source effort. i doubt FF will survive as a stand-alone site w/ Fb paying the freight. - MikeAmundsen

Keep in mind that despite the best intentions, nearly half of all sincere promises end in divorce. - April

Robert: I agree that the technology with great audiences don't get killed off, but the name of the game to the shareholders is money. It makes a ton more sense for facebook to integrate friendfeed into facebook, an already monetizable model, vs. leaving it as a de-coupled technology that has to have a new revenue model built for it. - Erik Boles

like x1000 - Vezquex

With so much money still on the table in the form of stock options, there's certainly plenty of motivation to make FB stellar. If FF ends up being treated well, too (for whatever reason--a promise, a warm fuzzy feeling, its potential role in helping to make FB stellar), then I'm all for that. - Kathy Fitch

There is a way to argue keeping FF going makes sense to FB: The important thing in social software ISN'T the software, it's the people who use it. If the people who use FF are sufficiently different to those on FB, then it could make sense to keep both services. Possibly they may end up using the same software, but have different brands. Think of VW group in cars (SEAT/Skoda/VS/Audi are... more... - Nick Lothian

Interesting thread. I think that Paul has the best intention and he will do everything he can to keep the existing service up. Dave Winer has a good summary of the forces he will have to fight against. Making a Facebook vs. Google vs. Microsoft decision was probably a hard one. I am wondering if Twitter was in the race too...Twitter + Friendfeed could have been a great team to go... more... - Edwin Khodabakchian

Why the outreach now and not earlier in the week? Has something spooked the FF team? Seeing people looking for alternatives, and poking around Google Reader, Streamy, SocialThing, perhaps? Robert said it himself, if people leave here, FF dies, and the team doesn't have a whole lot to sell to FB (yeah, arguably) and that could scotch the whole deal. So I'm just wondering why the outreach now? - Dominic Jones

ianf: don't you know, links are dead? ;) - Tristan Seligmann

read it from the begining, I'm happy FF crew is beginning to acknowledge the questions, Dave definitely has a point, but all-in-all I thought death was near, it looks like it gets delayed for some time. The main thing is ppl are still here although reader is the new playground...unfortunately the communication with their team isn't all that good... - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Dobromir, "read [297 more comments] from the begining" is not a good advice for anything, least of all here, in the Kingdom of Perpetual Constant Fragmentary Attention Overload, where realtime fly-by comments are the rule. - ianf ⌘

Robert, thank you for sharing this info. I hope everyone got the message clearly. Wonderful news! - Michael Fidler from iPhone

It is not whether Friendfeed lives or dies. It's whether our free-wheeling, anarchic, community-driven approach will be replaced by the bland family-oriented guidelines of Facebook. Will we still be able to chuckle of Asian men on a beach, for example? - Aaman (Clone of FF)

hey all, we can't return to the past, what happen has already happened, now the question is this one, may a micro community survive inside a large community, the answer is YES, FF community can and may have the same social behaviour it has here, and when move to FB, we need just to preserve our connections, and to maintain the same behaviour. that all, but even ancients tribes don't survive without scarifying some of their tradition. - abdellah

Will Friend feed just get - morphed into Facebook now? clearly they want to take on Twitter. I noticed that I tryed to remove my Friend feed from facebook recently because less techy friends complained that I take over there Friend feeds...! But I can't... mmmm - PRBristolco.uk

FaceFeed. Nom nom nom. - Marlin Forbes

My goodness, there needs to be a way to search comments...I scanned to see if Paul had chimed in, but didn't see that. - Chad Gesser

Scobe: I hope he does chime in. I think he needs to since you broke that. - Chad Gesser

Chad: I think he'll say more after he has a little time at Facebook and can give definitive answers as to what the FriendFeed team is going to do there. He told me that will take several weeks. - Robert Scoble

no i didnt know that - Chris Nwakalo

if so wonderful news - Ronald

Facebook is genuinely interested in best in class customer experience. I can't yet envision what features or practices are incorporated or left behind, but it seems a positive move for users. There is always a die-hard loyal following that doesn't want to see their Freind (feed) go away. Heck, I still record The West Wing on Bravo. - Jeff Marmins

Yeah i sure hope so robert. . i really rather not be on facebook. - RamirezG

Chad, to aid in scanning, you can do a Ctrl-F (or equivalent) and search the current page for "- Paul Buchheit" and/or install my user script that adds a mini avatar to the beginning of each comment http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Micah

Scoble, why do you think FriendFeed won't get sacrificed by Facebook management? Most sensible thing, to me, is to get FriendFeed integrated as a feature of Facebook, then eliminate the individual brand. Fact is, it's Facebook's decision at this point, unless the FriendFeed guys got something in writing to the contrary (which likely didn't happen). Sometimes you've got to go with your... more... - Jason Nunnelley

Jason: it doesn't really matter. I've been on Facebook all morning and they already have a lot of FriendFeed's features. Soon the rest will be moved over too. And the servers won't get turned off anytime soon, based on conversations with FriendFeed and Facebook. So, for now, use it and be happy. Me? I've already been spreading out my social networking time just in case. - Robert Scoble

and before he disappears into a part of the web that I can't find.....how do you say his last name? Boo-Kite? Buck-heat? Really, I don't know and I wanna know. Just so I know, You know? - Morgan

Robert Scoble

If everyone leaves FriendFeed I will have all of its Google Juice to myself! Check this out: http://www.google.com/search...

August 17, 2009 from iPhone - Comment - Like - Share

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I just posted that a few minutes ago and already it is in Google. Wild. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

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"Horse Piss Beer on Flickr" an interesting result. - Dean Clark

Dean: yeah there are some fun results there, huh? - Robert Scoble from iPhone

That's what will suck it everyone moves to facebook as friendfeed's features get integrated, there is pretty much no Google Juice on Facebook. Too many privacy barriers...things might change though. - Steven (optionshiftk)

Dude you are crazy!! Good point though =) - frank barry

Not leaving until they kick me out. - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)

Like many other people, I think best route is for friendfeed to go Open Source. Then we could keep it going. - Steven (optionshiftk)

I'm not going anywhere. You'll have to share the google kool aid with me. - shaun mclane

Shaun: go away! :-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I've always wanted to rank for "Octomom eats neighbor's dog." - And NO - I'm NOT leaving. Don't make me speak Russian to you. :) - shaun mclane

That was QUICK! http://www.google.com/search... - shaun mclane

Shaun: yeah Google is indexing a lot faster. By the way that was funny! - Robert Scoble from iPhone

No way am I leaving all this fun to you Scoble....slide over and give me some room :) - Ken

OK. Just pass those potatoes and peas. We're not leaving. - Brenda Young

Google never ceases to improve. - Ashish from iPhone

Who said anything about leaving? And what the heck is Horse PIss beer? Sounds revolting.. - Technogran

Ken Sheppardson

It's not as if people hadn't heard of Google Reader or Streamy or Facebook or Ning before and we can suddenly just say "Oh look, let's use this instead of FF", FriendFeed has solved a number of problems the others haven't. We may just be stuck dealing with the uncertainty around the future of the service.

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+2 - Robert Scoble from iPhone

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+3 - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)

Call out the problems FF has solved that the others haven't. Maybe the others will take it as a swift kick in the rear end. - EricaJoy

+infinity - damn right. Google Reader is awful for discussing content. It's a feed reader with social features bolted on. FriendFeed is fit for purpose and not going anywhere (yet). - Martin Bryant from iPhone

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