"You know that photoshop whiz kid friend of yours? The one that plays his keyboard like a Steinway as he dodges and burns his way to photographic perfection?
That could be you.
Be the pinball wizard. But for Photoshop (or Aperture, Final Cut Pro, Pro Tools, After Effects, or Logic Pro)!
You wouldn't learn how to type on a keyboard with no letters on it, why try to learn keyboard shortcuts without the shortcuts right on your keys?" - Mona N.
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Remember the Seinfeld epsiode about Good Vs. Bad Naked. Totally Bad Naked. - Kyle Hebert
"So she coughed."
"Coughing? Naked? It's a turn-off, man."
"Everything goes with naked."
"When you cough there are thousands of unseen muscles that suddenly spring into action. It's like watching that fat guy catch a cannonball in his stomach in slow motion."
"You spoiled spoiled man. You know how much mental energy I expend just trying to picture women naked?"
"But the thing you don't realize is that there's good naked and bad naked. Naked hair brushing - good. Naked crouching - bad."
- George and Jerry, in "The Apology" - RAPatton
Unfortunately, in real life, the naked people probably don't look like what's in his calendar. - Jason Shultz
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Simply.. WOW! Will we have Nude Programming soon? - Winston Teo
Well, sites like Twitter still have about a year before true mainstream acceptance. Something like FriendFeed is probably 18 months or more from mainstream acceptance, and it would need more filtering capabilities to get there. Video on a mobile is probably a little closer, but not sure about the publishing aspect. - Rob Diana
Rob: try again. Blogging still is barely mainstream and it's been out for 10 years now. Facebook just got to 110 million users. How many people in the world are there? Six billion? Funny how we consider things "mainstream." - Robert Scoble
Well, if 110 million users isn't "mainstream", then yes, I will change my estimates :) I think twitter (or microblogging) will go mainstream soon because it is so simple, and IM-like. "Real" blogging requires too much work and thought, and that is probably why it took so long. That and the tools have not been around for the full 10 years. Not sure when things like LiveJournal and WordPress really came about. - Rob Diana
LiveJournal was out in late 90s, I remember seeing it 2001 and I'm sure I wasn't early. WordPress came out shortly after that. Probably around 2003. Yeah, microblogging will probably be more popular than regular blogging. I'd agree with that, but it has a long way to go. Twitter has, what, a million or two users, not all of whom are active? - Robert Scoble
What's amazing is it seems that you guys beat the mainstream by days, not hours- for example, Andreesen/Facebook - Dino
LiveJournal, early 1990s? Try 1999, as late 1990s as it gets. ;o) - Fraser Smith
Sorry, I meant early 2000's. I'll fix that. - Robert Scoble
you are talking about heads down researchers from the nihs hp though robert :-p - mike "glemak" dunn
LiveJournal is huge in Russia, apparently. And the biggest search engine there is something called Yonex (useless info 4 the day alert) - john conroy
For me, I've gotten used to think in terms of mainstream for techies and mainstream for the general public. - Joey Lo
@Rob Diana - You're wrong - FriendFeed does not need more filtering to become mainstream. Mainstream users don't filter, they expect it to work and that's it. You're also wrong about FriendFeed becoming mainstream anytime soon. People don't use many services, therefore FF is useless for them. Not even blogging is mainstream, and probably won't ever at a scale like Facebook. Most people haven't got interesting things to tell. - sebmos
I still find it amazing that people continue with Twitter (myself included) despite it's hilariously fragile state. - Jonathan Beckett
I'm no techie, compared to some of the folks around FF anyway. I know "just enough to be dangerous," according to my wife's IT dept. But I rely on posts from folks like Scoble et al. to expand my knowledge of the tech world. FF is invaluable for that, but even though I signed up for it months ago, I didn't really start using it until the last 4-6 weeks. I think new sites and apps take a little getting used to, esp. if you're not really "out there" in terms of knowledge and know-how. - steplow is Steve
Interesting tweet Scoble. I wish I could get unlimited data here in Canada so I could Qik. - Granteezy
This says more about the researchers being out of touch than it does about social media. - Sam Pullara
@robertscoble - what you say about mainstream is exactly how I've tried making the point before that not only are services like Facebook reaching less than 10% of active Internet users, but most the world still needs to get connected! when people talk about Twitter going mainstream I want to scream "learn your orders of magnitude" - Julian Baldwin
I use my father and brother as 'touchstones' for mainstream. My dad, at 71 is an attorney who uses the computer for work only, doesn't regularly use email for personal reasons (but does for work) and can use the internet (he tracked down my twitter!) but doesn't see the need for it. My brother, at 44 is a judge who majored in CS & Psych in undergrad. He's a computer geek, but more into gaming than SocMed. They keep me from buying into the 'echo chamber' - yes, we are that far ahead. - Lucretia Pruitt
The Fins sold us the phones. So maybe we're not that far ahead. :-) - Dave "Maverick" Winer
I agree with Scoble,blogs, twitter, friendfeed, plurks won't be mainstream for a while. There is actual nothing in them that would give people a reason to hop on them in droves. E-mail yes, IM yes, static webpages, forums yes. And that's all. - Roland Hesz
I asked a bunch of people I work with regularly about Friendfeed and 1 person knew what it was. I work in the web industry. Maybe I was asking the wrong people. - Kate
Our focus is different. I don't know jack about sustainable architecture, for instance, but my friends who don't give a damn about blogs are all about green energy, sustainable city planning, etc. That's something that a lot of people on FriendFeed don't understand or care about. "Ahead" is a relative term. My dad is on FriendFeed, but he just sees it as another way to follow what I'm doing. My mom barely knows how to use e-mail, but she knows all about advances in wound care that I don't understand, but will be increasingly important as the population gets older and increasingly diabetic. Different strokes for different folks. - Steve Lynch
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I like what Steve Lynch replied, re. his friends/other people having a different focus, especially the bit re. his friends "who don't give a damn about blogs are all about green energy, sustainable city planning, etc. That's something that a lot of people on FriendFeed don't understand or care about. 'Ahead' is a relative term." I see that in my own communities of interest, where people are comfortable with forums (ew!), have made tentative forays into FB, but don't get blogs, much less Twitter, FF, etc. - Yule Heibel
@steve - that's a well stated point..I need to spend more time thinking about my understanding of mainstream and how it applies to sub-populations - Julian Baldwin
This discussion is a bit self-congratulatory, wouldn't you say? I would frame it a different way: how out of touch with the mainstream are we? The answer, of course, is very much so. Another question: are we out here on the cutting edge or just hunting snipe? - Juan Aguilar
I doubt Twitter will ever go "mainstream" if we define mainstream as a majority of the people who are online via computers or cellphones. Blogs, wikis, RSS, none of that is mainstream. Browsing, email, SMS...those are mainstream. - wrecks
now that it is mentioned, SMS reached mainstream pretty quick. - Ruben Llibre
@Jua Aguilar Hunting snipe. It's not in any way a cutting edge. It's just a way to pass time. - Roland Hesz
@wrecks: Good point. Maybe it would be better to talk about functionality rather than platforms, then. I'd say that social networking and IM are mainstream. I think real-time video on cellphones (for example) could go mainstream in a few years, but it wouldn't necessarily mean that "Qik" goes mainstream. I think wiki-like functionality will become more common... because it is very convenient. I think the functionality of a lot of Web 2.0 apps will be incorporated into mainstream devices, which is how it will become mainstream.... Torrents and Mp3 sharing was once for tech-heads only.... - Steve Lynch
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Lots a of great points, regarding Robert's original post I think that online video is finally taking off in a big way thanks to YouTube and that speaks more to the mainstream than any of the social applications we use to create and share content and conversation. Live mobile video broadcasting is still relatively new but video chat with Skype seems to be reaching a mainstream audience thanks to Oprah using it on her show and recent New Earth web casts. How much does the generation gap play into this? - Larry Kless
I just started work at fav.or.it, Nick is working to bring at least blog reading and following to the masses. but its hard work. - Tim Hawkins
R U KIDDING ME!!!!! OMG no wonder HP is not in touch anymore..dang! - Susan Beebe
The BBC have tried some mobile video in the last couple of months, Rory Cellan-Jones has a post up about it here http://is.gd/A6F (even includes a link to you Robert) - Mat
For US TV broadcasts (over the air) I seem to recall there is a requirement/regulation that XX% of your broadcast be of a certain 'broadcast quality' level and only YY% be of a lower quality (i.e. camcorders or cell phone video). - Andrew Leyden
this is much more about cost containment than lack of desire for some robert - cnn has been doing cellular video reports for awhile - mike "glemak" dunn
Mike and Mat: yeah, I know that there are some exceptions. But this was to a future of journalism conference. There should have been more. And a Nokia phone is a VERY CHEAP way to get photos and videos on scene at stories. So, if cost containment is a big deal, they should be handing these things out like water in the desert. - Robert Scoble
don't disagree regarding cheaper and should be handing out but when you look at the scale and day-to-day issues in media companies - cost containment is always an issue unfortunately - mit media lab is doing a very interesting project called civic media focused on this exact issue - mike "glemak" dunn
Robert - "future of journalism conference", in that case, Sigh++ - Mat
Tools and techniques are just that, got to put them to good use if they are going to be useful. In that respect, perhaps Journalists will be better at that when they learn how to use them. - Mário Pires
AFP has been using the N93 for over a year now. We have about 40 deployed throughout our network. Some journalists shoot, edit and FTP to Paris right off the cell. Some shoot and return to the bureau to edit and transmit off their desktop. - Jon Dillon
I think that's just a quality issue Robert. Qik does not look good at all on a T.V. - Erik Weese
"Tech" people should be ahead of journalists w/ tech stuff, that's what they do. Plus I wouldn't call Qik a fully fleshed out "cell video" service. Basically, you have one phone N95 (plus iPhone). Many tech people--early adopters still complain about the N95 flakiness. - Pokai
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The one thing that I think would massively improve FF is the duplication of items; say once from a blog and then again from GReader. If they can crack that, well I'd be a happy bunny! - Fearghas
One major concern is whether there really needs to be a messaging feature. There are messaging systems already like Twitter or even that slow thing called email. - Rob Diana
I'm not so sure about that Fearghas. I'd agree, but only if the post didn't have comments. Lets say someone blogged about something and I hid that. Someone else might blog it and it might have a great conversation attached to it that I'd miss. This would be a good feature but I'd like to filter it by with/without comments. - Thomas Hawk
A way to separate spheres of interest - Right now I've only invited friends to subscribe to me who want to talk about social networking & geeky stuff. If I pursue friends to talk about health & philosophy, for instance, wouldn't they find my current comments irrelevant and want to shun me? - Mark Arend
Good point Mark, I've thought about that with regards to DMU, a group where I post on Flickr. That place is *way* too crazy of a place -- and if I posted here like I post in there, all but about 20 people would probably hide me. Maybe the thing to do there is to create two FF accounts. Regular Thomas Hawk and Crazy Thomas Hawk for instance. - Thomas Hawk
I agree with everything except the direct messages. About the duplication of items, maybe they could be clustered together but indicating which have comments, so we can participate in them. Another thing I would like is to embed songs from Songza or similar services. That would be cool. ;) - Alejandro S.
Alejandro - I like that idea. I'd really like to perma-link to those "clusters" as well. Since my blog is currently on Tumblr, I link to the blog post when it appears on FriendFeed to allow for comments. If I could link to a cluster, that'd be even better. - Jordan Hofker
Thomas - #8 is what I'm looking for. I'd *love* to be able to invite someone to "take over" their current imaginary version. It seems like something that would really increase FF users. - Jordan Hofker
The ability to make your imaginary friends private would also be good. I created two for my children (so I could see their activity on other sites) and people started subscribing to them. Not what I wanted. - TranceMist
@TranceMist - your imaginary friends aren't private?? I could swear mine are... @Thomas oh dear, talk about fragmentation! Making a split personality in FF?? I wouldn't want to have to create a FF account for my separate interests... Might work for some services but not for twitter or my blog where I post whatever I like. It would be a lot more of a burden on users to insist on that. Give us filters instead so people can just not see the stuff from you they don't like and keep the rest. - Lindsay Donaghe
@Fearghas - regarding the duplicate links showing up in your FriendFeed stream. Check out Bret Taylor's post on this and see what you think. http://tinyurl.com/6zw4rp - Hutch Carpenter
Added a link to yours from mine! That's 32 now team FriendFeed - I hope you are listening. - Jeremy Toeman
if both sites are down, it's Wii time... for me anyways - Outsanity
That has to be Photoshop'd....Because that's utterly impossible! :) - Chris Rossini
I don't know about you, but twit out or not... my twitter bookmarks are moving out of the way for friendfeed bookmarks. that says something more then anything - AnotherⓃⓄⒶⒽ
Given that FriendFeed has there own message posting system you wonder whether Twitter can really differentiate with this many outages. - Rob Diana
It's as if Twitter scheduled its own Twit-Out. But FriendFeed needs some more love before it can be an outright replacement. - Jennifer Leggio
I'm starting to like FriendFeed, but the one thing I will miss from Twitter is the actual sending of SMS status updates when my close friends tweet - Alexander Falk
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As I told Mike, I wasn't planning on using FriendFeed except for feed aggregation but now it's super-frustrating to keep trying to log into Twitter :( - Mario Sundar
The delta between FF & TW is not that large. SMS posting, chronological messages ... what else am I missing? - Chris Rechtsteiner
@Alexander - get the mobile side sorted (mobile web and SMS) and FF can be a contender but it needs that extra support - Colin Walker
how will all my followers (over 5,000) find me here? - paul terry walhus
If FriendFeed gets the following that Twitter has, how do we know it won't buckle the same way? Maybe stability is ensured by being the runner up rather than the prom king. We'll have to see. I still don't think it's a replacement. - Jennifer Leggio
is it just me or does the commenting feature for FF via Twhirl suck majorly? I wrote two better comments that are now toast, thx to Twhirl (I think) - Jennifer Van Grove
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Non-early adopters are just now getting into Twitter, I don't know if they are ready for FF. - Kevin Bondelli
Jennifer L - I get the sense of security knowing that the same guys who developed Gmail and Google Maps, helped build FriendFeed. They know a thing or two about scalability. But like you said, we'll have to see. - Bwana McCall
Jennifer V.G. - It needs major improvement. I'm sticking with the website for now. - Bwana McCall
Bwana - Agreed. One other improvement - away to notify people of comments, likes, and messages directed toward them. Easy for it to get buried if you walk away for a few. - Jennifer Leggio
Twhirl will change the focus while you're typing a comment. It's absolutely ridiculous and annoying. - Rahsheen™
@Jennifer I have much faith that it will scale well because the team is from Google and likely have a very solid back end. We'll see. - Jason Kaneshiro
is this some sort of preparation for Twit-out? - Iain Baker
I think this is the Twit-Out. But Twitter just stole the power. heh. jk - Jennifer Leggio
@jason - yes the team maybe from google, but the app is built with ruby on rails. This leads to the question /debate which is not scalable RUBY or Rails ? more data here http://highscalability.com/sca... - Peter Dawson
Twitter is really making me mad lately. Such a love/hate thing going on - Sarah Perez
FF seems to have more of a "point" and is probably easier to explain to folks who don't get tw. Aggregating as well as micro-blogging makes sense. - Elliot Tucker
@Geoff Longman - I guess I am thinking about some of my friends in politics that have a hard time with it - Kevin Bondelli
I don't know about you, but twit out or not... my twitter bookmarks are moving out of the way for friendfeed bookmarks. that says something more then anything - AnotherⓃⓄⒶⒽ
